>>20298330
>I have no idea why people turned around on him
Because the people who hate him no longer watch the fed and the people that do still watch will swallow anything the tko kikes feed them

>>20298340
Or maybe he just got better? But please continue to "not watch", faggot. We dont need more /pol/cucked crybabies whining about the show.

>>20298330
Stockholm syndrome.

>>20298330
>and I have no idea why people turned around on him.
Same as Cena. Psychological conditioning into thinking he’s good after force feeding him to the viewers for years

>>20298330
He was so bad and forced down people's throats that his slightly better heel persona was enough for people to applaud because it was simply less painful.

>>20298358
>does the worst strikes you've ever seen
>slowly walks around the ring while adjusting the waistline on his pants
>sells terribly when the opponent actually gets offense in
>repeat
this has been the roman formula for over a decade now

>>20298340
/thread

>>20298367
Not that you're completely wrong but Cena actually had positive attributes
On his worst day he's 100x the promo roman has ever been and though he's not nearly as smooth in the ring he's known to have shoot freak strength that let him do genuinely nuts power spots that are very befitting a top babyface

>shows up for work for once
>Reminds everyone with a clue that he sucks

>>20298382
That's the thing, it's not slightly better, it's much, much worse. He went from a mediocre wrestler that was simply overpushed to actively terrible. His brawling got worse, his strikes got worse, his matches just stop so he can talk forever, now. His promos got worse, I didn't even think that was fucking possible, but it happened, somehow.

>>20298344
hog bitches make me rock hard

>>20298389
AEW ruined wrestling. It made retards like you think matches need to be move after move as fast as you can. Slowing down matches, trash talking, building up the pace, psychology. That's what Roman does. That's why Vince trusted him in the main event spot. That's why they are making more money than ever with him at the top. You fags are clueless. Now cope and pretend I'm Indian or whatever boogeyman fits best.

>>20298330
>everyone's saying it's one of the best WM main events ever
>time for low effort concern trolling from the AEW cult to hide how much they are seething
God damn, you probably just wanna take the day off and rest. It's gotta be a rough day for you

>>20298330
BBDWTS

>>20298677
>>20298703
Keep making it about aew

>>20298677
> anon says Roman’s strikes look like shit, he does the same stock animations when he’s in control, and can sell
> “but at least he’s slow as shit! I’m feelin really psychological right now!”

>>20298358
>Or maybe he just got better?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
Get back to work at the call centre Rajesh

>>20298330
imagine crying over someone for 10 years LMAO OP IS A FAG

>>20298330
He only has two moves, the superman punch (which orange cassidy does better) and the Spear (Which even Goldberg did better 25 years ago) He literally doesn't wrestle, he just makes his weird faces, cries, laughs, shows off his veneers and squashes guys.
His match last night was the only match where he actually looked semi good because he was carried for nearly 30 minutes.

inb4 seething anti roman fan

>>20298677
Is AEW the reason why people were shitting on him in the mid-2010s?

>>20298770
based OC chad

>>20298677
>psychology
Hey fat retard! I don't think you know what psychology means in wrestling! Let me give you some examples from last night!

>Roman dead sells 5 minutes into the heat with Punk
>Few minutes later he is walking on his feet not selling anything
>Roman uses the steps as a weapon to bust punk open, even though it is not a no DQ match
>Roman barely sells towards the end when it's time for him to hit his finish and win, stop selling after the bell rings

Roman is extremely mediocre. He's safe in the ring, but nothing he does has any impact. He is fucking terrible at selling (most modern wrestlers are). He can't cut a decent promo to save his life. His character is based around being chosen by the office and having a lot of cousins. 5/10 wrestler being pushed as the greatest of all time. Feel free to respond, but remember that anything I said is not a defense of AEW, so there's no need to bring it up

>>20298855
selling a leg or arm all match is for faggots, you ever see Hogan do that? Or Flair? Yet he sold to the point he got elite babyface heat

>>20298892
Punk didn't work his arm or his leg. Deadselling is how amateurs think selling is supposed to be but it doesn't make any sense and takes fans out of the match. It was weird that Roman was completely collapsed on the ground, then when it was his turn to fight back, he was up and moving around like nothing happened.

>>20298892
>did you ever see RIC FLAIR sell

Yes, but that's because unlike you I have actually watched his matches.

>>20298330
He really is all kinds of terrible. The last 10 fucking years has been a blur because he's been on top for so long but has very little to show for it, and no, shit like feeling Ucey doesn't count

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>I have no idea why people turned around on him
AEW happened so Edrones had to rally and pretend everything was good, even when they clearly weren't.

>>20298919
he wasnt selling his arm 45 minutes into a Ricky Morton match

>>20298330
He's been gone for a while so that helps. But also I like pretty much anybody having the title over Punk.

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>>20298953
>Triple H
>Cena
>Orton
>Rollins
>Reigns

All of these shitters have bodies of work that have gone for years and years producing nothing of worth.

Little jamals have replaced little jimmy

>>20299313
Is this what it was like when Orton was being pushed as a top guy?

bump
fuck romanetty

>>20298330
You don't understand wrestling. It's ok

kek the big dog still making obese smarks seethe to this day ya love to see it, hes the modern GOAT and this is objective fact, obese street shitting smarks never have a rebuttal for this

>>20302196
>street shitting smarks
This is roman's fanbase tho

>>20298330
>I have no idea why people turned around on him
people got worn down by the corporate propaganda, unironically
>WWE say hes the GOAT over and over
>say it even when it makes no sense eg. GOAT title reign when every match hes visually beaten and needs interference to win
>fake manufactured consensus by saying everyone says hes the GOAT so people feel dumb if they dont agree
>WWE point to stats in a scripted show to 'prove' it eg. WM main event count, title length etc.
>lasts so long with him beating everyone so anyone who couldve replaced him just looks like a loser until fans give up
>eventually everyone just accepts him like a broken dog
its easy to break people with manufactured media consensus. when you do theyll do anything- ask to give you their money, treat your brand like a religion, follow your politics, anything

>>20298677
aews noselling highspeed spotfests suck
roman plodding around for 40 minutes doing 2 things also sucks
especially because he also nosells to do le epic finisher trade le epic move spam le epic double knockdown shit
its like dipshits who pretend randy orton is good because hes slow or hhh is good because hes slow and cant do anything watchable without no dq
hes not a master of psychology hes just fucking slow

>>20298330
He got put in a group where he didn't have to do anything but point and say "acknowledge me" while surrounded by great talkers and then didn't have to work more than 3 matches a year where he didn't have to do everything because they were 95% shenanigans.

>>20298330
didnt they shoot used cancer to stop the booing in late 2018?

>>20298330
Everybody who didn't like Roman either stopped watching wrestling or softened on him once Vince ended his disastrous attempt to make him Cena 2.0 and turned him heel. It's that simple.

>yet another spotfest match
>yet another finisher kickout match
>yet another no ring psychology match
Zoomers love this, but have clearly never watched Bret/Austin.

>>20302280
nah thats AEWs fanbase, roman's are street shitting MARKS

>>20298367
>Same as Cena
nah what happened with cena is the kids and early teens from 2012-2016 who grew up watching their shity superhero are now adults voicing their garbage takes

>>20300236
nah orton is decent he did some cool shit over the years (feuds matches segments...etc) for example his legend killer run his psycho run 2008 2010 his series of grudge matches with christian 2011 ...etc

>>20302551
bret vs austin sucked and is just brawling outside of the ring for the most part. massively overrated

>>20300236
Yes, Orton has always been shit

>>20302989
its 20 stars compared to todays dumpster fire

>>20302491
Yeah, he faked having leukimia so he could run away to shoot a movie and allow the boos to die down and come back with sympathy.

>>20298330
He was slightly better than Cena but that's not really saying much.

>>20302326
The current AEW Champion is one of the best sellers in the business

>>20300236
Orton was never THE Guy no matter how much WWE pretends otherwise.

But yes, he was resoundingly shit on during his day and also a proven anti-draw. It was a meme in the 2000s-2010s IWC to watch ratings drop IMMEDIATELY after Orton got a world title push.

Carried by The Shield.
Carried by Vince's autism.
Carried by a 1000 day reign where all the matches sucked.
Carried by Sami Zayn.
Carried by Cody and The Rock.
Carried by CM Punk.

Literally the biggest carry job in WWE history.

>>20306394
Shoot heeming yourself isn't selling. He also pops up absorbing offence a bunch like everyone in AEW. But this is more the AEW match structure than him.

I like lil nigga, but lil nigga's matches should be one of 3 things:
>wrestles small guy, hes the underdog acting hurt most of the match but can win because hes hard to keep knocked out and gets a flash pin or occasionally a finisher win
>wrestles medium guy, gets killed, gets nearly no offence, but takes forever to be beat . Once in a bllue moon he gets a flash pin rollup when they get cocky or tired from punching him Homer style
>wrestles big guy, gets killed, gets pinned easy because of the weight difference but isnt dead after because he got pinned without needing to be wrecked, because hes half the guys size so easy to hold down for 3
>never taps but does pass out

AEW almost get it right but popping up from a move kills this because if the gimmick is he has a high pain tolerance, he should look like he's in pain but still going, not like he just isn't in pain. He also gets too many giant killer wins for believability, he's not a super agile high flier with jawdropping creative offence, he's Shane McMini - based retard whose main strategy is hurt himself to hurt you.
He shouldn't be the Mick Foley role, he should be the Tommy Dreamer pre-2000 role, the guy who people always want to win the title but never does

>>20306493
Considering the guy in charge now was notoriously never a draw, simply the guy who they forced all the big draws to work with, it's all making sense now.

1) He got better when he went heel
2) the people who hardcore hated him stopped watching
3)at this point he's been getting pushed for so long there's an entire generation of people who grew up with him

>>20302491
>>20305058
Sup Bryan Alvarez