>>20390553
>they finally eliminated most of the non-televised shows

fuck you too then

No wonder every cunt keeps getting hurt

>>20390553
>It never made sense to me profit-wise
Then learn to draw bud. Love me some McIntyre but the reason house shows stopped making sense financially is because they stopped fucking drawing. They used to be able to pack them like tv shows during the Attitude Era

>>20390580
This is still such a retarded mindset. People aren't getting hurt more because of lack of house shows. If anything their careers are going to have a much longer shelf life than the generations of guys who were working 3-4 times a week. Just because he's only wrestling on tv once a month doesn't mean that's the only time he's ever in the ring or physically active. He's still in the gym. He's still training

>>20390593
Oh boy, I do like seeing the same twenty fuckfaces on TV for five decades.

>>20390584
Nah, they were scaling them back even when the Codester was selling out every arena they ran.

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This is what wrestling looks like when you work 20 matches a year.

>>20390617
Vince was running 2 packed house shows at the same time in different cities back in the attitude era

>>20390593
Bianca is retired, Bron and rollings are made of styrofoam

>>20390625
Cirque du Soleil bullshit

>>20390593
>bron
>sneed
>bianca
>liv
>nikki
>chelsea
>vaquer
>kevin owens
>tama tonga
>sheamus
>elton prince
>drew
>cody
>roxanne
this isn’t even beginning to mention the 15 girls with torn ACL’s in nxt. please tell me another point in time this many people were injured in such quick succession. most of these were involved in storylines as well and fucked over the product as a result

>>20390593
Minor injuries may be down but serious injuries are way up.

>drew is considered widely to be a full-time wrestler
>self admittedly works a match every 2-3 months
>isn't even protected or main event guy
how did we get here man? this shit is fucking boring.

>>20390553
That's also because 98% of those jabronies can't work safe anymore because they're either too incapable or too reckless.

>>20390553
Why does a wrestler care about profits

>>20390553
He's correct. If house shows actually did anything to improve performers, modern Mexican and Japanese wrestling wouldn't be so embarrassing and botchy.
In-ring doesn't draw in America and shouldn't matter anymore in 2026. Nobody needs DA REPS, they need acting classes.

>>20391389
>modern Mexican and Japanese wrestling wouldn't be so embarrassing and botchy
idk if you’re implying they botch as much as wwe wrestlers but i sure hope you’re not that retarded. wrestling is unwatchable because no one understands how to put on a match there’s a reason a random match on raw from 2011 could keep the audience more engaged than the shit you see now of 10 minute matches with a silent crowd

>>20390553
Kek what a dumb corpo cock sucking bitch
KWADCCSB

>I feel like shit all the time after a match because I barely get to wrestle
jeez if only they had some way of wrestling more often

>>20390625
> Buck #2 holding Buck #1 in place so that he can take a move from the opposing team before falling down

Never fails to make me laugh

Let's just stop this whole wrestling for real thing and make it an animated series and the wrestlers just voiceact.
Then Ric Flair can come out of retirement again, WOO!

>>20391377
>>20391419
He's hoping if he blows TKO enough they won't screw him when it comes time to renegotiate contracts. Spoiler: they will.

House shows stopped making them money decades ago but they still ran them.

>Gives talent reps in front of fans, better to learn psychology
>While the schedule is harsh the many dates and bumps keep talent smarter and in ring shape to avoid injuries, at least that is the hope
>Talent can try out new gimmicks and moves without having the added pressure of doing it live on TV
>Company can run matches of guys they want to put together and see if they work well, have chemistry, if not then they can move on and not taint the screens with it, now they have to hope it all clicks
>Wrestlers can journey together, learn from each other, form friendships and bonds which can translate to on screen stuff easily, thus making people more over
>Gives fans cheaper alternatives to watch WWE, sometimes the only wrestling for miles and it comes once or twice a year
>Said fans stay invested in the product, keep watching TV, buy merch etc.

They do still run house shows with NXT I think but WWE in general is terrible at training the new guys and girls now. They're not trained to wrestle, to work but to be sports entertainers and most importantly, interchangeable cogs on the wheel.

>>20390553
Bro he had the chance to go to AEW and sell out Wembley 3 years ago and chose the slop shop we don’t care

>>20390553
Does he realize that overall, Vince made more money from house shows than televised events? If you weren't being compensated accordingly for working house shows, it's because you weren't making him any money.

>>20391348
Correlation doesn't equal causation
>>20391333
>this isn’t even beginning to mention the 15 girls with torn ACL’s in nxt.
You mean the one WWE brand that still does run house shows? Thanks for proving my point entirely

>>20391678
he made millions every televised show because of the tv deal are you retarded friend?

>>20391722
yeah the 2 house shows a month are really gonna help them wrestle safely

>>20390553
Outside of the obvious fact that house shows are cool and that wrestlers don't really get good working amongst themselves in a closed environment with no crowd or just a crowd of hardcore fans (like NXT)...
This shit that boxers and MMA fighters do where they have like 8 months between each fight is fucking retarded in pro wrestling and if they take inspiration from that it's one of the main reasons every single feud over the last couple years has fallen flat, because it's 2 minutes backstage segments for weeks until they FINALLY have ONE match and it's usually an underwhelming over-choreographed by the number borefest abd everything fizzles out

>>20391722
Correlation alone is definitely NOT proof of lack of causation.

>>20391732
Wrestlers learn to wrestle safely when they're training

The entire purpose of house shows is to learn to work the crowds and do it every fucking day because that's how you learn the business
It never, ever was about the moves, in fact as far as moves go, wrestlers can stay at home and practice for the whole day rather than drive around for most of it

>>20391550
everything you said is 100% accurate and why wrestling is so bad today. drew is an idiot with zero understanding of the business he is in. wrestling more makes you better at it
>Gives fans cheaper alternatives to watch WWE, sometimes the only wrestling for miles and it comes once or twice a year
this is an especially good example of why house shows were important. now it seems fans are happy to go to a convention instead and pay to have a picture taken with a wrestler instead of watching them wrestle

>>20391782
I agree. And I'm not saying there aren't individuals who could benefit from the experience house shows provide. I'm not anti-house show at all. I just don't think the injury argument is strong enough when not only are there upsides healthwise for the wrestlers not doing them but you can't even prove it's the lack of house shows that led to any specific injury in the first place. People get hurt the worst off the most mundane shit imaginable in wrestling
Also to counter what you're going after, Rollins had his biggest knee injury on a house show. Edge tore his achilles tendon on a house show. Lots of wrestlers have suffered career altering shit during matches no one besides a couple hundred people ever saw. But enough about AEW. The same thing applies to WWE's house shows too

>>20391785
>Wrestlers learn to wrestle safely when they're training
maybe in the 80s