It is nearing a year since you, The Courier, fought and secured independence of the Mojave from domestic and foreign powers. Mr. House was put on ice, the NCR got sent packing and even the mighty Legion tucked tail and fled back East.Now, the New Vegas Directorate, your new government, faces as many challenges as it does opportunities. Industry is rapidly expanding and agriculture is now firmly established while migrants from around the wasteland flood in looking to change their fortunes. But the Boomer Blight, an engineered plague from parts unknown, is spreading throughout the Wasteland and little looks uncontainable. You continue to walk the line in courting both the NCR and the Legion, seeking to be a stable power between the two warring giants. A new player comes into the picture and he brings with him hundreds of Enclave descendants eager to start again. You have agreed to welcome them into the NVD but time will tell if you can hide their influence from the NCR while keeping other factions happy.With the looming NCR election, the hostile President Kimball seems poised to lose to the unknown Allgood Murphy while Caesar continues to see you as his Augustus, urging greater cooperation between both nations. The one-year anniversary is rapidly approaching and while a grand celebration is planned, existential threats lurk everywhere and with Mr. House on the loose, you can be sure you’ll see him one last time.
Thread 1: Genesis The Courier talks Lanius down, and General Oliver is thrown off the Dam. A ceasefire is negotiated with the NCR and the chaos in Freeside is swiftly put down. In the chaos of the battle, the Brotherhood took over Helios.Boone got talked into staying around, the Courier absolutely dogwalked the NCR ambassador two separate times for a very favorable treaty with the Mojave in return for much of the dam’s power and water. The Crimson Caravan is banned from the Mojave and the beginning of the Follower-Mojave relationship is formed over bath houses. The Courier encounters boomer blight for the first time after asking the Boomers for food, though not understanding the severity at the time. Doing what the NCR couldn’t, the Courier completely eradicated the Fiends as a force in the Mojave, demolishing Vault 3 in the process. A massive deal is made with the Brahmin Baron Heck Gunderson to supply much needed food to Freeside in return for vast freedom over his businesses and for his son to serve as AG Secretary. Senator Armstrong of the NCR is introduced. Thread 2: Ain’t like chowing down on Fancy Lad Snack Cakes…The Courier discovers a large group of raiders operating from the town of Nipton, targeting NCR visitors from the border. The Courier also officially creates his council, the nexus of the Mojave Government. The Courier finally explores Lucky 38, finding wealth and secrets that he quickly uses, most notably the Mojave Rehabilitation Plan. But much of the information pulled is heavily corrupted and will take time and effort to make use of. The Courier refuses to let House die and instead rushes him off to Big Mountain to extract his brain from the rotting body, resulting in House in a coma. The Brotherhood makes another move and seizes Black Mountain.Boone runs into a stranded NCR special forces group who agrees to stick around for the time being and they prove instrumental in the dramatic victory over the Nipton raiders after they launched a terror attack on the NCR border crossing. Senator Armstrong climbs the ladder of power and is invited into NCR President Kimball’s Council. The New Vegas Police Department is created to alleviate pressure on the Securitron Force and begin the process of civilian control over the region. A military is officially created with the former Enclave captain as its head, with an infantry core being the focus and the M1 Garand selected as the standard rifle of the armed forces and a production deal made with the gun runners. The beginnings of industry is created as a nascent leather industry grows around the production of leather armor for the armed forces. The Mojave Rose Caravan Company was created with Cass as its president, cutting construction costs and alleviating the issue of transportation.The Courier activates the Emergency Beacon in the Remnants Bunker and is offered a deal to heal Caesar in return for a mighty boon.
Thread 3: Render Unto Caesar The Courier travels deep into Legion lands to heal Caesar of his tumor, learning much about the empire in the process. In return for healing Edward Sallow, the Courier receives a set of master codes that should override any government facility in the country. In the aftermath of the surgery, Caesar now believes that the Courier is the heir of his empire though much needs to be done for the Mojave walker to earn that position. Before heading back West, the Courier also planted the seeds of a major conspiracy forming against Caesar with the goal of destabilizing and weakening the Legion. The Boomer Blight, which is an altered strain of the Vault 22 and Big Mountain strains, begins to become a much larger issue with it being manmade, particularly hard to treat and multiple strains existing in the wasteland. But it’s not just confined to the Mojave, with rumors of it having infected the lush lands of Zion. While focusing on this apocalyptic issue, the Courier also continues to strengthen the position of the Mojave. He negotiated a massive investment deal with a cabal of NCR businesses and a minor agreement made with the Brotherhood to provide technical support throughout the desert. Yes-Man finishes his upgrades and turns into an even bigger big brother than he was before and a very generous trade agreement is signed with the Legion. A New Reno crime family shows up in Freeside, causing endless headaches for the Courier and his government. Perhaps the most impactful episode happens when the Courier explores Hawthorne Depot, finding a large NCR garrison and roping in the Brotherhood and Legion for a raid. After insertion with Vertibirds, the initial assault goes nearly perfectly but disaster strikes when an explosion kicks up a nerve agent and nuclear material in the middle of a dust storm, killing the entire town, garrison and the raiding force while also nearly killing the Courier in the process. After waking up back in Hidden Valley, the Courier is without the Platinum Chip and the master override codes with no idea on the status of either. Arcade Gannon and his research team sent to Zion have gone silent and the status of the Platinum Chip unknown. The only saving grace is the Courier officially decides on a direction for the Mojave, creating the New Vegas Directorate and giving the nascent government an air of legitimacy. Quintilius Publicis is introduced.
Thread 4: An Evil Awakens The Courier wastes no time in finding the Platinum Chip, but also comes away with no answers on what exactly happened in Hawthorne. He discovers a treasure trove of pre-war military equipment stored in a locked bunker. The Courier journeys deep into Zion to uncover what happened to his research team and stumbles upon horrors beyond his imagination. He fights his way through the entire valley, pushed nearly to his limit. He finds a handful of survivors and evacuates them, though Joshua Graham stayed behind as a distraction. The survivors of Zion are settled at Cottonwood Cove, now renamed Genesis. Domestically, valuable resources are found throughout the Mojave and construction on the first gold mine is underway. The dual investment finishes up and the region is rapidly industrializing. A series of states are drawn up dividing the Mojave into governorships, and those governors are approved by the Courier. Funding is decided on a “per-head” basis. An intelligence apparatus is created and the Armed Forces is rapidly expanded, with additional manpower given by the Westside Republic after agreeing to join the NVD. The Courier takes a trip to The Divide to ask Ulysses to join his government and look for a weapon to destroy the Boomer Blight in Zion. Ulysses joins after a few months of consideration, while The Courier finds a nuclear weapon to use.The Courier travels to Big Mountain to talk to House’s brain fresh out of his coma, gleaning some perspective on the Mojave’s situation. He returns again to bring Doctor Henry and Arcade to the scientific wonderland only to find out that House is now missing. Henry and Arcade begin to settle into Big Mountain but have different wishes for its use. The national currency is decided to be casino chips, with the specifics still being worked out. The NCR attempts to shut down all traffic and trade, but is quickly overruled by NCR business interests. The Courier visits Creech AFB with Bear Team One and a platoon of troopers but encounters nothing but misery. He finds out that the Boomer Blight has begun to spread from Zion.The Courier makes his way to Fortification Hill, discovering that it needs repairs and needs raw material, but can repair and build new Securitrons. The water shortage was also investigated.The Salvatore Crime Family was quarantined and raided in a joint operation that rounded up every member. In talking to their leader, Courier realized Cyrus Long is Enclave-affiliated and agreed to accept his people in the NVD. Link to previous threadshttps://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=No+Gods%2C+No+Masters
FACTION REPUTATIONSNew California Republic: LikedLegion: AcceptedBrotherhood of Steel: WaryFollowers of the Apocalypse: LikedThe Boomers: IdolizedThink Tank: Liked Enclave Immigrants: Liked The Shi: Wild Child Strip Families: Liked New Reno: Vilified Great Khans: Dark Hero
The Governorships of New Vegas1: The Governorship of New VegasGovernor: Swank. 2. The Governorship of FreesideGovernor: The King 3. The Governorship of JacobstownGovernor: Marcus 4. The Governorship of Bitter SpringsGovernor: Landon “Boots” Fischer 5.The Governorship of Sloan Governor: Hal Stringer, Former Deputy Foreman of Sloan 6. The Governorship of GoodspringsGovernor: Trudy McGill, de facto mayor of Goodsprings and saloon owner. 7. The Governorship of HooverGovernor: Kate Stanson, Former Deputy Secretary of Energy who specializes in hydroelectric energy. 8. The Governorship of NovacGovernor: Cliff Briscoe, owner of Novac Hotel and the Dino Bite Gift Shop. 9. The Governorship of PrimmGovernor: Johnson Nash 10. The Governorship of SearchlightGovernor: Daniel, religious leader of the Children of Zion. Loyal and dependable. (Each State will be given 1000 caps/month for administrative funding and each state will receive 1 cap per population. States will be created after year anniversary.)
Somewhere in the Colorado ProvinceYou are Quintilius Publicis, Tribune of the mighty Caesar’s Legion and an unmatched conqueror. And you’re currently very frustrated. Pullo: Bring the building down on their heads, Legate. If they wish to cower, let it be in their tombs. Morus: I promised Caesar these slaves, and I am not sure where else in the wastes I will find such a group. Do you concur, Tribune? The argument has been going on between Camp Prefect Grackus Pullo and your “commanding officer” Legate Morus. You shake off your mood and turn to the Legate. [Caesar commands and we obey. The tribals inside will be taken alive and unharmed, somehow.]The three of you are gathered at a command tent three blocks from the Denver Public Library, a building designed very similar to those in New Rome. The last of the United Tribes of the Bronco have gathered there, desperate to not be saved by the Legion. When you first approached The Citadel and its inhabitants, you were….impressed by the challenge ahead of you. They numbered in the tens of thousands, had advanced technology and the benefit of a metropolis to defend from. Any other Legion commander would have shed too much blood to subjugate the tribes and take this jewel of the mountains. You’re not just any other commander, which is why you’re the youngest Tribune in the Legion and on track to become the youngest Levante ever. It’s the highest honor of your life to serve a man who brought civilization to the barbarians you were raised with. The pain of losing so many kin was eventually replaced with a singular purpose to defeat the enemies of the Son of Mars. A role you’re exceedingly good at. This was to be the last task before you turn your sights back to the West, to the degenerate Republic and then to New Vegas. The United Tribes were intimidating at first, but you quickly saw the best path forward. Instead of taking the entire faction on, you began targeting each tribe individually. The Handdogs, ferocious fighters that made good use of their mongrels. In urban combat, they were just as vicious as your legionnaires. Instead, you introduced your own diseased mongrels to fight, mate and interact with their stock. In time, their greatest strength would become their undoing.In the meantime, The Mole Men posed a different threat. While poor combatants in traditional fighting, their mastery of the Denver sewer system and knowledge of subterranean hideouts made it impossible to secure supply lines and protect your rear echelons. It wasn’t an option to root them out, so you directed your engineers to build aqueducts from lakes surrounding the city and flooded a portion of Denver. With their hideouts submerged, the moles fled much like rats and were handled as such.
The Blue Angels were the simplest to deal with. While their aircraft could have destroyed your force in Colorado, they are irreplaceable machines and their tribals treated them as gods. Just having the threat of anti-weaponry grounded their vehicles. Little do they know, you actually did find some equipment outside of Colorado Springs. It was a simple task to raid their air base and secure the craft, but unfortunately the personnel had fled deeper into the city which is where you find yourself now. Morus:….isn’t that right, Tribune?You don’t hear what the Legate asked, and don’t bother to pretend you were listening. Instead, you throw your crimson cape around your shoulders and march down the street to a barricade manned by legionnaires. Grackus runs up behind you, the sound of his hobnailed boots clacking against the cracked asphalt of the street. The library is surrounded on all sides and each street has a barricade of rubble. A legionary standing atop the pile approaches the two of you and clambers off the pile before saluting. Legionary: Sir, we’ve got the savages boxed in. But we can’t be sure of any threats within a block of the building in all directions. I would suggest you hold back until we clear the path ahead.You lean to the side and look around the barricade. A block ahead is the mighty edifice of the Denver Public Library. The windows on the bottom floor are blocked and the main entrance has its mighty doors shut and sandbags piled all around.[No time for that, Soldier. Please hand me your shemagh.]The trooper looks confused before remembering the name of his scarf. It’s a dirty, white scrap of clothing but it should do the trick. Grackus: Quintil-er Tribune, surely we aren’t going to just walk up to the front door and ask for their submission?You tie the cloth around your old Centurion’s staff before turning to your only friend. [Of course not. You’re staying here. Make sure the Legate knows where I’m going. If I’m not back within an hour, bring the supports down and raze everything.]You step out from behind the barricade and begin walking straight down the street while waving your flag. You glance to either side, gazing up to the tops of the buildings that infest the city. This city has taken too much of the Legion’s blood even with your creative tactics. You get to the end of the last block and before you can cross to reach the library, a trio of well-camouflaged enemies jump out of a ditch with their weapons raised. [Steady, friends. I have come to talk, not fight. Not yet, at least.]The three men talk between themselves in some disgusting language before the shortest one responds. “You will face death if you come to fight. But follow, I take to greybeard.”
The small man is instead a child. He clambers up out of his pit and leads you to a side door to the building. The child is wearing a mixture of stitched, ratty clothing and bits of trash that makes him blend in remarkably well to the rest of the city.[Your name?]“I El-Weh. Don’t forget.”His confidence makes you laugh in spite of yourself. You smile down at him. [I am Quintilius Publicis. You will make a good legionary, El-Weh.]“Your head make good shitpot.”He could use some discipline, but he has the fighting spirit. The tribal child hands you over to two older soldiers and after some back and forth, they bring you deeper into the Library. While it has been turned into a fortress, you can tell its first purpose is a place of hoarding knowledge. You mentally note the need of a contamination team to sweep the building ahead of the rest of your force. The two men bring you to a back corner of the library, far from any potential danger. One man puts his arm across your chest to halt your progress while another knocks on the dark, wooden door. An old, very old black man answers. His clothing is made up of fine linens, though not exceedingly luxurious like some in the Legion. His features betray his upbringing, however, and you know this is not a man who has known hardship. His grey beard goes down to his chest yet his head is completely shaved. “Ah, a visitor. Please, come into my sanctum.”The old man babbles some nonsense to the two guards and heads back into his room. The two savages give you a nasty look before heading back to their posts. You may as well see this gamble through to the end. The room is warm and welcoming with a fireplace roaring and plush reading chairs scattered around the room. You don’t bother to hide your disgust. The old man has settled into a chair near the fire, a book held up in front of his face. You take the time to walk around the office. While there may be thousands of books stacked on every possible surface, they’ve been placed with care and have plastic protectors across the covers. The subject matter ranges from technical manuals on electronics and practical engineering to medical textbooks. Others have names that mean nothing to you. The old man still doesn’t beckon you and the hour limit is quickly ticking down so you march over to his chair and leer over him. Without looking up from his book, he asks, “Would you like to take a seat? It’s a very comfortable chair. Many nights I’ve fallen asleep while reading….”When you don’t move from your spot, he chuckles. “Okay, the stoic type. I have a book you might like. But ah, that’s not what you’re here I imagine.”[I am Quintilius Publicis, Tribune of the Ninth Legion. I am here to demand your unconditional surrender and submit to the authority of Caesar, Son of Mars.]The old man’s eyes light up and you see what he’s reading, the light of the fire illuminating the weathered cover.
The History of the Fall and Decline of the Roman Empire: Volume 3“You can call me Xerxes. I always liked that name. Xerxes the Great, ever heard of him?”[I will leave here with your surrender or the building will be brought down with everyone still inside. Your answer.]The old man laughs again before finally putting his book down. “I am not their leader. They only listen to me because I am an old man. But I do not wish for this day to end in so much bloodshed. Answer me one question, and I will suggest to those here to submit.”You gesture for him to continue. You don’t know what could be of such importance to Xerxes. “How similar is this Legion of yours to the Roman Empire of antiquity? Do you embrace technology, resulting in some sort of techno-agrarian society? Is your Caesar hereditary or chosen from the elites? Where does he trace his lineage to? How are your units deployed? Do you use the cohorts system and how do firearms and advanced weaponry impact that?”Romans of antiquity? You’re not familiar with the term Roman, other than it being a variation of Rome. And what does he mean by Caesar being part of “a line”? The old man’s questions tumble out of his mind and you become annoyed at his attempts to confuse you. [Hold your tongue before I cut it out. Caesar is the Son of Mars, who is the God of Mars. He is a deity and the Legion is born out of divinity with our ideals coming straight from the Gods themselves. I know not of these Romans, who are you to claim us as anything else?] Xerxes looks genuinely dumbfounded and asks the question again. When it once again doesn’t click, a look of horrible realization fills his face. “Wait, are you not aware where your leader’s namesake comes from? Your Legion is an imitation of a society that existed thousands of years ago! And your Caesar certainly does not come from a God, he just knows his history!”[LIAR!]
You draw your firearm out of its holster when you freeze up. On a table next to Xerxes is a stack of books you’re now just bothering to notice. Caesar, The Civil WarsCaesar, Life of a Colussus Caesar in GaulThe Rise of the Roman EmpireCaesar’s Legions: An OdysseyThe stack seems endless and the words begin to blend together. You stumble over to the table and pick one up.Rubicon: The Triumph and Tragedy of the Roman RepublicYour hands begin to shake. “I wanted to do some reading to familiarize myself with your customs. As I said, I thought your group was just emulating the old Roman Empire. You wouldn’t be the first ones.”The book looks old, very old, and the print date behind the cover is hundreds of years old. A trick, how obvious. You almost whip yourself with how obvious the answer is. [A trick. You almost got me, old man. Your duplicitousness would impress even the Frumentarii, maybe you’ll have the chance to meet them.]The academic’s weak smile falls. “How could you be so blind?”You regain your composure and step back from his lies. [I answered your question and it’s the same answer even after your subterfuge. We’re out of time.]Xerxes slowly rises out of his chair and nods to you. “I’ll pass along the message. I refuse to condemn these people to death, though I’m not sure slavery is much better.”The old man leaves you alone in the office. The Frumentarii Liquidators will sweep the building soon, but….You’re not sure what comes over you, but you can’t stop yourself from grabbing a few books off the top of the stack. You tuck them behind your chest plate and exit the Denver Public Library, back to your Legion.
We Are So Back (^:
Mojave RegionMonth 11-------------------------Population (Rough Estimate): 85,000Freeside/New Vegas/North Vegas: 68,000Novac: 800Westside:5,500Goodsprings: 1000Jacobstown: 700Primm: 2,250Nellis: 1,000Genesis: 350New Vegas Outskirts: 4,000Sloan: 400Boulder City: 150Bonnie Springs: 600Nipton: 0Remaining population dispersed throughout regionNew Vegas: Rebuilt Pre-War buildings, defensive wall, electricity, plumbing.Freeside: Sparse electricity. Pre-war ruins, pre-war buildings, shacks. Defensive wall. Basic sanitation.Westside: Some buildings electrified, pre-war ruins, pre-war buildings, shacks. Defensive wall. Abundant sanitation.Boulder City: Pre-War RuinsPrimm: Electricity. Intact pre-war buildings, pre-war ruinsNipton: No plumbing, no electricity, damaged buildings and rubbleGenesis: Intact pre-war buildings, tents Goodsprings: Electricity, intact pre-war housesNovac: Electricity, intact pre-war houses, defensive wall.Camp McCarran: Intact pre-war building, military tents, electricity, plumbing, defensive wall, watch towersCamp Rex: Intact pre-war building, military tents, electricity, plumbing, expansive training groundsEconomyTariffs: Low 5%(+135,000 caps/turn)Casino Tribute: Intermediate (+70,000 caps/turn)Pharmaceutical Industry: (+10,000 caps/turn)Additional Dam Income: (+50,000 caps/turn)Upkeep: -104,000 caps/turnTreasury: 0 caps (99 Gold Bars)FoodBelow-average (Stable)Dynamic DietAs agriculture is stabilized in the Mojave, food is available for those who can afford it. The biggest limiters are lack of mechanized agriculture and lack of arable land.WaterLow (Falling)It’s confirmed that the water shortage isn’t due to Mojave usage but increased population, no water control and increased industry/agriculture is straining the plumbing system of the Mojave.MedicinePoor (Falling)Scavenged industrial medicine, sparse home remedies. The Followers have begun manufacturing medicine on a small scale. There is a Cholera outbreak in Freeside and Novac.https://pastebin.com/WUaGdbQcAnon’s Suggestionshttps://pastebin.com/z8vZKF5i
ALERTS------------------WARNING: NIPTONA small group of immigrants have moved into the ruins of Nipton and began to rebuild the large abandoned farm and ranch just south of the town. Their population is roughly 75 and they consist of former NCR citizens.WARNING: ENCLAVE IMMIGRANTSThe first groups of Enclave refugees have arrived and are waiting to be told where to go. Once this initial group is settled in, they will quickly bring in more and more of their numbers.WARNING: CHOLERA OUTBREAKNovac and Freeside are both suffering from the early stages of a Cholera outbreak, cause unknown but presumed to result from a rapid influx of population and poor water distribution/sanitation.WARNING: STRETCHED FORCESWhile there’s no pressing need, more and more Securitrons are deployed to guard travel and trade routes or to isolated towns around the Mojave. Kreger is pushing for the creation of more infantry companies to take over standard patrol duties from the irreplaceable Securitrons. Novac and Genesis are requesting patrol forces as there are a large number of dangerous animals interfering with trade and travel. WARNING: ZIONZion is infested and there seems to be no saving it. While the research team has assured you that the spread will slow as it hits inhospitable territory, there is a fear of travelers visiting and spreading the contagion elsewhere. Border crossings are closed but the infestation grows slowly. The atomic bomb is ready to be deployed.WARNING: BUILDING MATERIALSWith the recent boom of investment and the NVD continually funding projects, there is a severe shortage of basic building material across the Mojave. Business leaders are clamoring for subsidies to import from elsewhere or new material to be found and used to sustain growth. WARNING: CRIMEThere has been a small uptick in crime across the entirety of the region due to the reinvestment and increased migration from the NCR and elsewhere. Especially in urban areas, punishments range from corporal punishment, indentured servitude, banishment and often, death. This becomes an issue when NCR tourists are the subject of punishment. Members of the council are pushing for not only a comprehensive legal system but also for jails and prisons for worse offenders. WARNING: CAESAR ORDERThe Mighty Caesar has requested your assistance in assassinating Vulpes Inculta, the head of the Frumentarii. This will weaken the Legion in the long term and further ingratiate yourself to Caesar as his heir. WARNING: GOVERNMENT FUNDINGMany department heads have submitted complaints over the recent reduction in funding and requested not only a return to previous levels but increases to support advanced work within the region.
Nice to see this back.>>6320884Courier Actions:>Assassinate Vulpes.A pretty time-sensitive one.>Use the atomic bomb on Zion as we've planned.Courier Diplomacy:>Meet with/organize the Enclave immigrants.Better deal with this sooner than later.>Talk with the Families of New Vegas.Maybe we can convince them to help us out since the NCR investments will also help them too.Military Action:>Create more infantry companies, per Kreger's suggestion.Department of Defense to help.Research Action:>See what needs to be done to fix up more Securitrons, and begin research into that end.Department of Science and Technology and the Department of Energy both help here if they're available.Industrial Action:>Continue dealing with the RMRP.According to the pastebin we're still on the second stage (manufacturing).So have the Department of Commerce, Department of the Interior, Department of Agriculture and the Department of Transportation.We don't really have the caps to spare at the moment, but if we use casino chips we might be able to fund things.Other:>Recruit Rotface as a spy for the Directorate.>Create audits to see what the businesses are doing, particularly with to the NCR investors.>Have some people (maybe a companion) look into what the immigrants in Nipton are doing.>Confirm the governorship/department appointments if it hasn't been done already.Department Actions:Department of Health & Human Services:Continue helping against the cholera outbreak. If they need anything, then they can come to us for it and we can see what we can come up with.Department of Tourism and Entertainment:Make an advertising campaign for the celebration of the Anniversary Celebration of the Directory.Department of Housing and Urban Development:Keep an eye out for cholera and other sicknesses. Raise awareness and work with the Department of Health & Human Services to increase illness prevention.
>>6320923Courier+1 to assassinate Vulpes +1 to bomb Zion Diplomacy+1 to meet with Enclave immigrants - I think we should send some to Big Mt as extra hands, and as extra firepower in case House decides to run amok... I don't like that the giant roboscorpion is laying around for him to tinker with potentially. He could end up in a lobotomite pretty easily. +1 for talking to the families. We have a good rapport with them, we need help with stuff. MilitaryI think we need to secure all the swag in that bunker at Hawthorne. Clock is ticking on someone else grabbing it. We might not need the vehicles and ordinance for our own military (though surely it'd save us money and be a big benefit). But we could sell this stuff for a big injection of cash, or trade it to a faction in order to help secure fealty, and then it's basically ours to use anyways. Westside might be ideal. Research I think Henry has the right idea about the weather machine. It is one of the more stable technologies in the empty, and it could vastly improve lives for our citizens, and ruin life for our enemies. Would turn around the dropping water levels. Could create all the funds we could need. If the securitron army secured us the Strip, weather control would secure the Mojave. Industrial Get to work harvesting and using all that sweet new clay we found. We need building materials, and we need money, and even if we just use the bricks to improve road infrastructure, that saves money long term. +1 to all the department actions at the end of this post
For the Enclave immigrants, I'll repeat my suggestion to house them in a vault, we have a few in the area. I think Vault 34 or 3 would do, I can't remember if we blew up Vault 19.
>>6320879I thought we would have something in the treasury. How much is each gold bar worth?We'll have to improve our income or probably make it one for every two population. I am expecting to spend a lot for the fight with Zion. Since even if we do bomb Zion I do believe we're going to have to do a little controlled burning around the area.That is even assuming the people who put it there in the first place don't you start putting it somewhere else.
>>6320923Generally support this, but I'd like to investigate the weather control system at Big MT as Research.If we can, I'd also like to tack on as Other actions restoring the departments' budgets to pre-austerity values and organising a foot expedition upriver to western Colorado to investigate the diversion dams. If we're losing water, we need to shut those gates and this'll take a few weeks so best get started now.
>>6320939Vault 3 was basically demolished by Boone, the sulfur caves below Vault 19 were also destroyed by you but you’re unsure of the damage to the vault itself >>6320941I have each bar valued at 20,000 caps, but that may fluctuate with other actions, especially if you guys try to dump a bunch of the bars. As for income, please correct me if the math doesn’t math but you guys the into the negative so I liquidated a bar to bring it back to 0The good news is that you’ll be making a lot of change this turn going forward as the investment has finished
>>6320957Ah, yes, the new regional budgets are ruinously expensive. We need to cut this funding formula dramatically or foist some of the responsibilities of the central government off onto them.
>>6320951LFG >Make weather control machine >Stick it on the Lucky 38 >Weather Wizard Time >????? >Profit
>>6320939the first ones are already in Niptonget over it
>>6320931>Industrial>Get to work harvesting and using all that sweet new clay we found. We need building materials, and we need money, and even if we just use the bricks to improve road infrastructure, that saves money long term. seconding this
>>6320957I think what messed me up was thinking we would get some income from the quick fix of our trade with ncr. It makes since if it needed the whole month to get the income rolling a again. If we can wait until next turn to pay for the party. Then things should be fine, but I think we should get some caps from gold to cover a few things. Otherwise we should have 56k in caps to work with after the states are set up. -85k for pop and -10k from governess
>>6320884Supporting this >>6320923
>>6320884>Enclave immigrants>"ENCLAVE could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this territory before. There could be ENCLAVE anywhere." The desert heat made him wish for a nuclear winter. "I HATE ENCLAVE" he thought. Big Iron rebounded through his pip-boy, making it pulsate even as the $0.50 healing powder circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of pre-war American COG forces after dark. "With a pip-boy, riot armor, and RadAway, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.
Would rainwater collection help prevent cholera? We still need to boil rainwater, right?
>>6320884Courier Actions:I agree with >Assassinate Vulpes.A pretty time-sensitive one.>Use the atomic bomb on Zion as we've planned.I am not sure if we can fly the bomb in. We assume need to get some people we train for hazmat to join us for cover. Courier Diplomacy:>Meet with/organize the Enclave immigrants.I think Nelson, we can have them help set up the town for the mine and wind farm. If not Nelson there is bitter springs or Nipton. >Meet with the boomers.We need to see about training people on the Heavy Artillery and see if they will help with Zion. It will be good to work with them to see if we can cover openings on the other sides.Military Action:>Send squads to check out the west side of Zion.We saw people and signs of things getting out near Creech AFB. On the west side lets see if we can make it to Area 51, NV and the salt flats with the Enclave FOB. It should have a chance for loot as well. The legion should have the east side covered. I hope the rides we got will be of help.I hope the area near our home will be ready for the after effects of the bomb.Research Action:Lets check in with the team and plan the best location for the Zion bomb.Department of Defense support.Industrial Action:The clay would be nice, but needs 50k to get going. Yet that would be all we need and can use the action for other things. I would be down for selling some gold for it. Then the remaining money can help with water systems for the area.Get to work with getting a better system for water distribution/sanitation. Other:>no water control and increased industry/agriculture is straining the plumbing system of the Mojave.Send out techs and people from the Department of Agriculture to get people set for better water use. >Recruit Rotface as a spy for the Directorate.>Create audits to see what the businesses are doing, particularly with to the NCR investors.This likely would be covered with better budget for the departments.>Have some people (maybe a companion) look into what the immigrants in Nipton are doing.>Send a personal Invite to Ms. Yen for the 1 year event.I think it will be good to say thinks for the help.To much for one post.
>>6321047 >>6320884Agree with the Department Actions:Department of Health & Human Services:Continue helping against the cholera outbreak. If they need anything, then they can come to us for it and we can see what we can come up with.Department of Tourism and Entertainment:Make an advertising campaign for the celebration of the Anniversary Celebration of the Directory.Department of Housing and Urban Development:Keep an eye out for cholera and other sicknesses. Raise awareness and work with the Department of Health & Human Services to increase illness prevention.Postmaster General: Send out flyers about the plague safety. Work with Department of Health & Human Services and Department of Science and Technology to make up some best practices to stay safe. No need to make people panic it is mainly to inform people and have them send those with signs to the nearest doctor to get checked.Department of Commerce and Department of State: We are lacking building materials. See if there is something we can do to make a deal with novac for scrap to help that out and support the RMRP plan. After that it will be seeing what we need to import want we can get set up here.Government Department funding:I want to up everyone to 8kThe Department of Defense will get another 8k to help cover the intelligence agency added in. Make us go from 48,000 to 88k.--The problem is the states being to much for it. If we can make it 1 cap for 2 people. That would be better until our income grows. Otherwise that would only leave us 16k in caps to work with. We do have the gold mine coming next turn and that could change things for us. So the cap per person can wait until then.
>>6321048>>6320884If we can't wait until next turn also use gold for the 1 year event.
>>6321042Las Vegas gets about 4in of rain a year in total and can go months without getting any. It's far from enough and for the most part all we'd be collecting is dust. Rainwater is not really clean since it's collected airborne dirt and bacteria plus whatever was on the catcher but boiling is more to kill off anything it's picked up in the cistern while being stored. Just another reason to start turning all that salt around here into chlorine.
>>6321051Unless....... We could control the weather.... From our wizard tower in the Lucky 38....... But making chlorine for the water is a better priority (:
>>6320871>You’re not sure what comes over you, but you can’t stop yourself from grabbing a few books off the top of the stack. You tuck them behind your chest plate and exit the Denver Public Library, back to your Legion.Ohoho, the seeds of doubt are sown. Okay, new thread. Let's hope we didn't forget anything.>Courier actions:Kill Vulpes IncultaDeploy the nuke to clear Zion's infestationSupport from Ulysses>Diplomacy actions:Gather the Council and create a legal codeSupport from Department of StateSettle the Enclave Immigrants in Nipton for nowIf it's possible to send someone else to do it as a free action: Notify the NCR and Legion about the nuke before we set it off.>Military action Send a recon team up the river with the motorcycles to investigate if there's something obstructing the river. Pack antifungals.Support from Department of DefenseHave the First Company clear out some of the wildlife dens that have been harassing us.>Industrial actionsBegin building a greenhouse (-30k)Begin working on refurbishing the NV sewage systemSupport from Department of HUD>Research Begin researching ways of repairing and resupplying the Securitron Factory in Fortification HillSupport from Departments of Science and Technology and Commerce>Misc. actionsQuarantine the cholera outbreak, clean out the dumping areas, and form specialized dumping areas in controlled spaces. Also test local water supplies for contamination and have them put under guard in their respective towns.Support from Department of HHSReturn the Department funding and boost them to a uniform 8k/monthFund the Anniversary Celebration and begin the campaign(-75k)Support from Department of TourismOffer Ms. Yen a personal invitation to the Celebration. If anons agree, send a gift package consisting of the Toaster and a few minor knickknacks from Big MT.Give the Securitron Factory resource list to the Commerce Department and see what they think of it.Recruit Rotface as a spyHave ED-E do the eyebot thing and monitor the Enclave immigrants in Nipton.
>>6321075I forgot about people saying get Ulysses to be our Vice Courier. I think yes Man should help cover the government part he lacks.If we die and Ulysses picks up the chip I wonder if her gets to hear our voices, thinking the Courier never left or something.
I wonder if we shouldn't try getting Vulpes onside? He may be loyal to Caesar, but if he gets told by us that his death has been ordered, he might reconsider. Loyalty is one of his #1 values after all. He'd know all the dirty secrets of the Legion, on top of running all the NCR networks they have. Of course, the risk is that we spare him and he goes off to tell Caesar who executes him anyway while getting mad at us, but it's something worth considering.
>>6321109we should offer him sanctuary in the NCR, new face, new identityanons seem hellbent on taking every bait^Wsuggestion from our esteemed QM though>yeah! let's have 10 governorships!!>>>MOMENTS LATER>oh shit 10 governors is 10 times the salary of one governor!
>>6321109>>6321160Please stop trying to recruit everything that is even tangentially opposed to one of our enemies. It was a godawful move when anons tried it on House and it's a godawful move now.
>>6321097If not Ulysses, someone else. We need a Vice-Courier/Vice-Director (more correctly), if we are going away or are wounded/need of healing there needs to be a 2nd in command figure that fills in our shoes and calls the shots. A 2nd in command is also useful, even if we are of good health and ruling simply because we can delegate some tasks to it and it can help us in other matters. A Vice-Courier/Vice-Director should be preferably someone that doesn't already do one job in the government (overwork). And also preferably someone loyal and that we know.Ulysses while not being great for governing (i have to say that Courier Six has also been learning this kind of stuff on the go, and he is still doing so. He wasn't a born perfect bureaucrat/ruler), is still learned, experienced, willing to play ball, loyal and with a similar vision to us.I would seriously advise people to not pass over this and think on having a Vice-Courier/Vice-Director before the end of the vote. Cassidy already told us that without us some decisions slowed down, since the council had to decide between each other.Technically we have never nominated an heir. I suppose people didn't consider the question so far. Or thought of doing it later on.
>>6321097>>6321166Agreed. I guess I'll belatedly add "Declare Ulysses Vice-Director" to my orders.
>>6321167Very goodConsider me supporting your vote and suggestions here and here>>6321075>>6321167>>6320884supporting this plan
>>6321075>Deploy the nuke to clear Zion's infestationthis is at least one military action in and of itself, we can't drop it, we need to walk it in, or fly it in on the vertibird, IF it can carry the damn thing, set it on the ground and gtfo and hope the fungal menace doesn't chew through the casing before it goes offwe need to rig it with a timed initiator, we need a day when the wind is blowing from the southeast... it's a whole damn thing
>>6321174and of course, detonating the thing in a shallow well in the hope of creating a more localized fallout pattern is also an option, but idk who could back-of-the-envelope that for us. Maybe the think tank?
>>6321065sort of trivial, we have electricity, we have saltwhat we don't have is a way to store and deliver it
>>6321165Trying to turn enemies into our assets is a valid strategy if we can beat the rolls which we can't lol. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer as the old saying goes.
>>6321177It wasn't a factor of rolls only actually, and it would be a long series of rolls to do.House was specifically placed somewhere free and with little to no supervision, inserted among a group of mad scientists, when he should have been put bare minimum on something resembling a cell and with some guards. Like it was said far far before we arrived to these events, we were also simply too occupied with our duties to go and visit regularly to chat him up for convince him. Combining that with what we did to him (which from his own point of view is incredibly humiliating), if things turned out like this is a miracle.
>>6321174The vertibird should be able to carry the warhead. The B53 weighs about four tonnes while the V-22 as a stand-in for the vertibird has a vertical lift capacity of about seven tonnes. Might need to strip out some fuel or do short hops, but doable.
>>6321194it's gotta be on a sling thenno way you're just landing a vertibird in the middle of all that and coming out alive>do short hopsyeah bro just gonna create and secure some LZs in the fungal madness. lel. not happening
>>6321196IIRC we outlined a plan to the BoS to lower it into Zion with a timed detonator.
>>6321199and now I'm thinking it might be useful to drop some barrel bombs and some napalm first, clear a spot
>>6321196Short hops insofar as it may need to go with a reduced fuel load to allow it to carry the thing and stop to refuel on the way.It should have no issues with a sling, they are designed for it.>>6321202Now that sounds like a job for the bomber.
>>6321208>stop to refuel on the wayit's going to be a major military operation to set up and secure those pit-stops...I mean this is going to be a big thing anyway, but
>>6321160The governors budget of 1k each is not my worry. It's the 1 cap per person, that would be the same even if we had less governors. Which would be good if we have the income to still do things. Since that would allow them to take care of the small things to help our people grow.>>6321174>we need a day when the wind is blowing from the southeastThat is why I was thinking we should use the researchers to get placement down.>>6321202The need of the bomber support with their weapons made me pick them to support us as an action.
>>6320923I'll also support getting Ulysses as our second in-command.
So what is the goal with the bomb? I ask because I doubt it will take care of everything and there is the fallout to worry around. I really think it's best to have our people research best location and we get some support to help with Zion. With our troops moving to cover the west better and keep the spread down, hopefully. With the boomers we can see about their airplane clearing the landing zone. With luck and I assume supplies from us, we can have them fire bomb areas around to close off opens for a bit or at least reduce growth. Then send in people to cover the paths. From there they can train our people with the Artillery to be able to slowly move into area and clear it of the blight. If not the boomer we can try the BoS again with the new info we have about the ncr look a likes.While there is a chance we can wait until next turn to send people. Since it takes a few weeks for fallout to reduce. Assuming the blight can't rebound before then. >>6320884I would like to know if our Courier can place it well or if we need to research a good spot for it. Since it would make make some of my worry invalid.
>>6321314>>6321221>>6321208>>6321202>>6321196>>6321194>>6321174Feel like we are possibly inventing problems to solve, has the QM indicated there will be fuel or weight issues with delivering the warhead in the vertibird? I think I did see him say the lady of the lake couldn't handle it, but I'd imagine refueling and creating landing zones might have come up now. To be fair, some parts of this story are surprisingly granular and oriented to realism (not necessarily a bad thing) while others are more of a handwaved in keeping with the setting.
>>6321331Do wanna add to this anyways that I am low-key anticipating that the radiation from the nuke will end up mutating the parts of the Blight that survive, if any do - I bet dollars to doughnuts there's FEV somewhere in the mix. Even still, nuclear fire is probably the best way to buy us some time right now. War never changes ...
>>6321331>>6321314The bomb was pulled from The Divide by Vertibird so it can be delivered by Vertibird, but that’s about all it’ll be able to carry. As for the spot, I won’t make it its own action. That being said, you’ll be using your best judgement on the best place to use it but the courier, in all his skill, has very little experience with nuclear warheads like this. The more effort given will result in a better outcome, as with everything. If you, the players, also give a detailed plan on where to deploy, that will help as well. For fuel, vehicles like the Vertibird don’t need fuel, just fusion cores. And the fusion core for your Vertibird is still good. Regarding the need to “refuel” the Vertibird, I think that would only apply to long trips where the bird would need to land and minor maintenance conducted with certain fluids restocked. (As you said, anon. A mix of realism and fantasy that I’ll try to explain as we reach the grey areas)
>>6321334I thought vertibirds were fuel-burners? I could swear Daisy mentions being limited by fuel at some point, but you da boss. While we're here, are the various abandoned aircraft scattered around the Mojave also fusion-powered?Placement depends on where the Blight is and how much it's covered, which still hasn't been elaborated on in detail.
>>6321334Oh ok great, thank you for clarifying. With that in mind, I think *someone* in the crop of Enclave immigrant pool is going to have the technical skill to assist with this project. We should start screening for that person, and we should be as subtle about that screening process as possible. Maybe we should use a department action to locate that individual very discreetly so enemy spies don't become aware of our nuclear capability (if they aren't already). That individual should provide advisory assistance and supervision, I think. We should drop the warhead nearer to the center of the Zion infestation but downwind of it. That will save us some time in delivery and minimize time over Blight airspace, but will carry the heat and fallout farther up. How downwind will accomplish that without leaving the far side of the infestation undamaged is up to a brighter mind to devise. I am assuming we have already determined the blast scenario can encompass the entirety of Zion? If not, hoping input from Ulysses or this hypothetical Enclave tech will help. We went ahead and accepted a bunch of Enclave science officers and military personnel into our society. We chose operation paperclip. They didn't stick Braun at a McDonald's. We shouldn't put enclave weapons specialists or scientists in a podunk like Nipton. When people find out we let the Enclave in, they are going to be pissed off. That's an expense we are expecting to pay. Every minute we aren't taking advantage of their presence is bad business. They should already be working at Big MT, producing enough food for themselves with sink tech and ironing out new tech for us to field. They should already be enlisting in our militias and they should already be coordinating military actions to make up for our current severe lack of resources in these areas. NCR and Legion have boat loads of experts. We have very few and we are spinning so many fucking plates trying to triage them all. We chose paperclip, let's follow through and start making progress. Halfassing it is so goofy.
>>6321345I meant UPWIND not downwind.
>>6321345I was hoping to use the time they get settled to sift through them for people who can be trusted to go to and revitalize Big MT (hence the use of ED-E).I don't have strong opinions on the matter though, if you and other anons think it's more important to get them started immediately despite the risks.
>>6321431I was thinking with Nelson we can see how they do with getting the mine or wind farm up. It will make it feel more like we are open to using while getting to see people in action. In hopes that they don't keep their guard up as much. Then we can have our people come in to double check their work and if things go well we will have more resources to work with in turn.
>>6321431>>6321447I genuinely appreciate the caution in this approach, but I feel like taking big gambles is our thing. I think I'm a little frustrated at how we have rushed headlong into sending our science team to hell, dropping nukes, and just unleashing House in the Big Empty. Frankly we should probably focus every single action on apprehending him right now, before we end up with a new unmanageable front bleeding our resources. What if he gets back the 38? What happens if he gets to the Sierra Madre? I'm getting distracted. Basically I just think we can't afford to be slow utilizing one of our most needed resources right now. Someone could find out about their presence next month, we really ought to get them to work and folded in promptly.
>>6321075>>6321167For the most part I can back your action plan. I would like to have the military scout more than just the river. SInce the water is from "It’s confirmed that the water shortage isn’t due to Mojave usage but increased population, no water control and increased industry/agriculture is straining the plumbing system of the Mojave." The military will need more budget from the talks we had last thread. Yet that can happen next turn as well.I hope next turn we can recruit the boomers and Nipton work just as well. We can move people around later.>>6321450I agree with keeping an eye out for house. If we didn't need to Assassinate Vulpes I would say we can do that. The blight is a problem that shouldn't be left to wait as well.At least with more people in Nipton and those at Genesis we have more eye down south. We can up the budget for the Department of Defense to get more passive eyes out as well. Ulysses should be a big boon to our intelligence agency. Which we need to still deal with the frumentarius sent to us, as we were told to kill them. I would say we can work with Ulysses to recruit them or remove them if not possible.
>>6321454Maybe we should just tell Ulysses to assassinate House? He would probably be the best guy for it, he already knows the empty pretty well, and how to get in.
>>6321447>I was thinking with Nelson we can see how they do with getting the mine or wind farm up[...]Between this and the realization that the NCR immigrants might notice who the Enclave guys are, I'm thinking Nelson might be better? Though we'll probably have to give them resources to get it started, we can postpone it by asking them to send a list of basics they'd like.
>>6321457Yeah we can tell him house likely got out and the reasons we think so. Then see what he can dig up for us.----Looking up something to help for placement of the nuke I found this. https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=9000&lat=37.2982022&lng=-113.0263005&airburst=0&hob_ft=0&fallout=1&psi=3000,200,20,5&rem=500,600,1000,5000&therm=_3rd-100,_3rd-50,_2nd-50&zm=11 It let me put setting for how strong and show us the area it will affect.Thermal radiation radius (2nd degree burns (50%)): 22.3 mi should mean most things are not gonna be in a good spot.If wind is on our side we should be safe by a good amount (30ish miles) from the Initial explosion fallout at it's current wind seed and direction. https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=9000&lat=37.2982022&lng=-113.0263005&airburst=0&hob_ft=0&fireball=0&fallout=1&fallout_wind=2&fallout_angle=253&psi=&rem=&therm=&zm=11After that for planning I am just sure what we can do to clear things away from our target area. Then I assume we would want to drawn to make the most targets drop. With out help we get the 1 bird to work with and what we can fit on board. We can try for a mine drop and get some crazy people to hold the line until we can set up. Like on the side of a high point in the area. Then attempt a pick on the way out.>>6321468I want to get both places our support if we can. Since that would win over the NCR people and get things building up smoothly. Then we can use that as a reason some of our people are around.
>>6321345Operation Paperclip was years in the making and years in the executionlists of people were being drawn as early as 1943by the time they reached US shores those guys were pretty much known quantities, still they were all debriefed before being sheep-dipped into various placeswe do not know anything at all about these fuckers>>6321450Since the topic came up first you've literally done nothing but try to hand over the NVD to these guys. Idk why you think that would be fun, but I don't. Also it doesn't fit with the Courier being 10 int, nobody that smart does something that dumb just because.>>6321431I sure as fuck don't think it's a good idea
>>6321584>I sure as fuck don't think it's a good ideaAgreed, let's just split the difference and set them up in Nelson where ED-E will keep an eye on them. We'll have them send us a list for whatever basics they need, and we can gradually vet them for Big MT access over time.
>>6321584Frankly, I don't think an Int 10 courier would've invited them in at all, and I wasn't there to vote against it - feels like an unwise decision overall. Regardless of their (fucked up) background, accepting refugees before we get stable on water and medicine? Anyways, since we DID vote to being them in, I am feeling frustrated that it seems to be the only thing we are slow-walking while a big injection of skilled expertise, in science particularly, is one of the top things we need around here. Meanwhile our Int 10 courier left House's brain to babysat by the same lunatics that misplaced HIS OWN BRAIN WHEN THEY FIRST MET LOL, and we are trying to develop a plan for nuclear deployment WHILE we are pressing the button. On the one hand, I get not wanting to demonstrate that same recklessness in one more area of our operation, but on the other it just seems to me that we are just about desperate to get both hands on the wheel with some of these projects. If we are in for a penny on Enclave recruits, I think we oughta just be in for a pound. Again, totally respect your sense of caution here, what you're saying does make sense to me, I think we are just gonna have to disagree.
Look, if we’re going to make any damn use of them (and keep a good eye on them), gonna have to keep them in Vegas lads. Not only is it our powerbase, but that’s where the industrial infrastructure and low-skill labor is- we just get more bang for our buck in New Vegas.>>6321629You’re ascribing wisdom as intelligence- it may not wise, but the logic is sound.The undeniably stupid thing was getting rid of our diplomatic deniability of claiming they’re Salvatores, NCR immigrants enmeshed in the NCR’s political system, for perceived domestic optics of a one month battle and ‘but muh feelings’ arguments.
Before the month began in earnest, Cass requested some time to speak with you. Alone. You get her point and wisely choose not to invite her to the Lucky 38 but a more “intimate” setting. The Ultra Luxe has a beautiful garden attached to the rear of the hotel and while it’s constantly full of tourists, it’s easy to send a quick message to ownership and clear the rabble for your use. When you meet Cass outside of the hotel, the first thing you notice is she’s wearing…makeup? And a dress. Oh no. It’s not a ball gown but it’s still an admittedly cute homestead outfit and one Cass probably hasn’t worn in years. She notices your shocked look as you walk up to her and puts her finger in the air.“Don’t say anything, Six. It’s laundry day.”You give her a look of doubt. [Is that why you’re wearing makeup? To celebrate laundry day?]Her pale features rapidly blush and she flips you off before spinning around and heading into the casino. You can’t help but smile to yourself as you follow the wily redhead in. You quickly catch up to your shorter plus one. She gives you a backwards glance. “So, why are we at the Ultra Luxe? It’s not exactly my style…”[There’s a really nice garden built into the back. It’s usually packed with tourists but I made a few calls…]Cass snorts in response. “Oh, you made some calls, huh? Really waiving that dick of power around, aren’t you?”[Ah, sometimes all of this responsibility comes with a few perks. We’ll only be there for a few hours anyway, the patrons can go gamble their caps in the meantime.]She doesn’t respond and instead works her way through the gambling floor. You’re pleased to notice that while the slots have never been the main draw of this place, nearly all of them are full and the high-roller tables are well attended. You’ll have to look at the numbers of all four main casinos, but it looks like business is returning to normal. Cass reads your mind and comments on the same thing. “Good to see people coming back. That little maneuver with the NCR was impressive, even if it was the business interests pulling most of the weight. Are you worried about that?”[About the NCR oligarchy secretly controlling the republic? Not as much as you. If they attempt to pull their resources out, we nationalize. If that ever happens, we’ll be in a much stronger position with industry and our military. If all we need at that point are resources, the Legion will provide.]Cass gives you a sour look as the two of you pass down a hallway towards the garden. “I hate our reliance on the Legion. I’m not a slut for the Republic, but I think the literal slavers and rapists are a bigger threat.”
[I don’t necessarily disagree but our position geographically, economically and politically requires us to play both sides off of each other. Neither wants to open a front with us, not when Kimball or Caesar thinks they can win me over.]Cass doesn’t look convinced but drops the topic. The two of you arrive at the doors of the greenhouse, manned by a White Glove. Attendant: “You honor us with your presence, Secretary and Director. The garden is empty sans another attendant who will be available for any good or drink requests. All on the house, of course.”The two of you give your thanks and are let into the lush garden. But you don’t see a tranquil place of peace in the safety of New Vegas. You’re back in the jungles of Zion with monstrosities of indescribable makeup scurrying through the dark undergrowth. Your breathing becomes ragged and you reach for a firearm that isn’t there. Screams fill your head and your vision begins to dim…“Six, you good?”Cass gently touched your hand, pulling you out of whatever came over you. You quickly shake off the remnants of whatever that was. [Uh, yeah. I’m good. I need to drink some water, I think. Anyway, what did you want to talk about? More concerns from the Secretaries?]Cass knows you’re dodging the question. You start walking further into the garden. That little episode aside, it’s beautiful. While most of the plants and flowers are local, they’re all well-maintained.“It’s actually about you. I’m worried about you.”You stop and smell a rose, a Mojave rose in fact. You pluck it and give it to Cass. [Why? I’m doing great! The Directorate is in a good position, our economy is back on track and there are some big opportunities coming our way!]You know she didn’t mean the state of the Mojave but you’re not too excited to talk about your “feelings”.Cass tucks the flower into her dress but scowls at you. “You’re being more of an asshole than usual. You know damn well I’m not talking about New Vegas. You’re in less danger than when you were on your adventures, but you’re getting so lost in your work.”
Looks like you don’t have a choice in the matter and Cass is almost as stubborn as you are. You sit down on the ledge of a fountain, enjoying the cool breeze from it. Cass plops down next to you and smoothes out her dress. “You have so many people who care for you on some level or another, but I just don’t know where your head is at. Where does this all end for you?”Now you actually don’t know what she means. [In the grand scheme of things? I guess I haven’t thought about it.]“That’s what I mean. You have some serious hardware on you and if anyone is gonna live to a ripe old age, it’s you. But do you really want to be The Director forever?”You actually haven’t thought about it much. Before, you focused on staying alive and the best way to kill each enemy that you came across. Even now, the only thing you have time for is the Directorate and it’s taken nearly every waking minute. The little downtime you have is spent keeping your skills sharp. You haven’t ever contemplated a life past the NVD. You’re honest with her. [I don’t know. The obvious answer is no. No one lives forever but I don’t see myself stepping away for some time. There’s too much to do and I don’t trust anyone else to do it.]The disappointment is evident on Cass’ face and she turns away from you. Neither of you speak for a few minutes and you instead try to enjoy the garden. It is beautiful and there’s nowhere like it in the Mojave but damn if it doesn’t bring back some nightmares. “Isn’t it lonely? All this time and effort put into this project of yours, are you afraid of your companions drifting away from you? What about when they choose to move on?”[Red, I’m going to assume you have a point here and I’m too dumb to get it. This isn’t about me losing my friends to the sands of time, is it?]Cass takes a moment to collect her thoughts. “I am worried about you being alone. It’s lonely at the top and power attracts the worst sons of bitches in the wasteland. You can surround yourself with liars and thieves, all while they rub shoulders with you. And what about when it’s all over? Who will you have?”[I haven’t thought about it, Cass. I guess I imagined most of my companions sticking around for the long haul.]“I know. That’s why I’m bringing it up now. We won’t wait around forever.”Cass looks disappointed at your answer and you know there’s more she wants to say but the conversation seems to be over. Instead, she sighs and stands. “This is a nice place. Let’s take a walk and just enjoy the quiet.” The two of you spend the afternoon enjoying the nature walk, but you know there are things that have been left unsaid. By both of you. (Will call turn tonight, just wanted to get this out before I forgot.)
>>6321761Man....She's right. I think we are right to knuckle down on Vulpes and nukes and all that other stuff. But next month? I think we should take Cass out for a date. Six should probably be thinking about a family, especially if we are going at this shit a month at a time.
>>6321761Damn, If she just wants to have a baby in her. She can ask for a quckie.
>>6321030Kek, don’t know how I missed this. Great job anon. Also posting this as a reminder to myself to add the vehicles looted last thread
Such is life from time to time. Fortunately, there appears to be an agreement on having a second in command. Delegating some work is never bad; it's a long road, but having a well-organized government will eventually allow Six more free time.Gonna update the suggestion pastebin. Some stuff, like reading Phenomenology of Spirit and recruiting Ulysses, is done. I think I will add the clay deposit in the economy, I forgot if it's in Genesis or Novac, though..
>>6321794Clay deposit is across the river near Genesis and copper is near Novac. Thanks for your work, Anon
>>6321795Thank you for the info and quest!
>>6321772>>6321790Duality of man
>>6321761It hurts but it's true, we're treating our companions as hired help, and gradually taking them for granted. We should take them all out during the celebrations, go do stupid shit that's just fun.
>>6321808That was kind of my hope is an action next turn. Of giving everyone a day or as a group depending on the people and how long the event last.Granted that assumes everything goes well with the bomb.
It would likely need our Military action, but I was thinking the Securitrons with Pattron could help cover some areas. We would still have a problem of weight. If the Lucky 38 range for linking the Securitrons is good enough with Black Mt working. We can try hooking Pattron into the system to make the bots work better for the Zion raid.I mainly have been thinking how do we get the fire support we need and get them out. If we don't mind loosing some Securitrons. We can get them set up on points in Zion near where we wish to place the nuke. Assuming they can hold out until we load the nuke and drop it off.Other thoughts would be dumping oil and setting aflame the area. In hopes in will keep the regrowth down and hostiles at bay until it is time. It could be used cooking oil if we got enough heat to get it to ignition temperature.Really I am thinking we need to get some help. Since a small group will have hell of a time. Unless we have a more than one airship or can load enough to clear the area in one run with a quick nuke set up. Dam regrowth rate making it hard to do a bombing and come back with the pay load.
>>6320923>>6321075These are the two proposals with the most support and they're pretty similar, so I will combine them As always, please call what you roll. Courier 1Kill the Fox(Will ask for roll during operation)Courier 2Drop the nuke in Zion with Ulysses help>1d100+8 (DT65, lowered due to Ulysses assisting)Diplomacy 1Meet with first wave of Enclave immigrants and decide where to settle them (Won't need a roll, will just have a choice vote)Diplomacy 2Meet with the Families, thank them for their support and ask for their help with investing in New Vegas >1d100+8 (DT45)MilitarySend some of BTO upriver with motorbikes to investigate potential water blockage. Bear Team One are the only ones that know how to drive the bikes worth a damn>1d100 (DT70)IndustrialNo money can be spent but have Commerce, Interior, Transportation and Agriculture meet to discuss further support of the RMRP>1d100 (Higher the better)ResearchSend what few robotic experts exist to Fortification Hill to examine the facility, and have Commerce provide a report on the possibility of obtaining necessary resources.>1d100 (Higher the better)OtherThe Courier will call a meeting of Secretaries to get their input on the outline of a legal code Misc>Confirm Ulysses as Deputy Director>Invite rotface to the intelligence agency >Boost every department to 8,000 caps/month starting next turn >Invite Chen to anniversary and provide gift basket of fun tech>Notify NCR and Legion of Zion cleansing>Direct DHHS to assist with Cholera outbreak in any way possible (1d100, DT 75)Let me know if I missed anything but this is the gist and just at the limit of actions
Rolled 86 + 8 (1d100 + 8)>>6322069Drop the nuke>it's a less than one in two chance to go right, fuck me
Rolled 90 + 8 (1d100 + 8)>>6322069Families roll.
>>6322069Diplomacy 2Meet with the Families, thank them for their support and ask for their help with investing in New Vegas>1d100+8 (DT45)
>>6322085>>6322069I may be retarded and forgotten how to properly roll
>>6322086Put your dice in the options field in the format of dice+[x]d[y]+[z], in this case it would be dice+1d100+8. Note that if you're ever rolling with a negative modifier, it would be formatted as +-z.
Rolled 62 + 8 (1d100 + 8)>>6322086>>6322085
>>6322096Urk, I've given you false information because it's the wee hours and I'm tired. There was no modifier on that roll, but in any case I've just noticed the families were already rolled for above you so you'll need to pick a different one and roll again.
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>6322069Inevitably doomed research roll.
>>6322103Fuck it, I'm just glad the nuke roll went really well.
>>6321757fuck it, Cassidy wife route. She deserves well and we should give her that happiness.Also she is right that we are likely slowly killing ourselves and our friendships.
>>6322103>RnD fails againlmao, lol even.
Rolled 27 (1d100)>>6322069Military.
Rolled 56 (1d100)>>6322069>IndustrialIf we can spend the money for the anniversary next turn I am happy. Otherwise I would be down to use some gold for it.
>>6322116Yeah, if it's now or never for funding the Anniversary Celebration, spend gold to do it now.
Rolled 40 (1d100)Rollang for Cholera Containment by DHHS
>>6322122"Circumcision causes cholera"
>>6322072way to save the day you glorious fucken bastard
Oh hey maybe this thread will have better->sees the remainder of the rollsWell at least the blight roll went well
>>6322215I'll treat some of rolls being poor as it's because we're broke and we need more researchers.
>>6322244Literally what it is. If we got the empty set up right I bet our research DT's would average below 30
>>6322244Our roll spread was entirely average, even above average. Remember that any DT above 50 is worse than a coin flip; most of these were simply not going to happen.
>>6322215atleast we didn't Nat-1 the Nuke drop roll
>>6322359While true, I doubt lacking personal and caps is helping.
>>6322359Right, that's the incentive to not be broke and to have resources like competent researchers or technicians or bureaucrats - it will invariably lower the DT on resource intensive, expensive tasks to below average instead of well above.
>>6322382Imagine>Loading vertibird with bomb>Whoopsee daisy, butterfingers!>Beat>Picrel
This month has two priorities that stand above all else. First, detonating the nuclear weapon in Zion. You’re almost certain it won’t end the infestation and you do need to find the source of this bio weapon, but it will buy you breathing room. The nuclear weapon has been checked by you for any blatant flaws and a timed mechanism has been built and implanted, but it’s still a daunting task. Not just because you’re returning to Zion, but because you’re still not sure where to detonate the device. You’re also not too sure you can do it yourself. If Zion was that bad months ago, who knows what it looks like now. But you can’t bring in a full platoon of shock troopers, you have neither the room or weight allowance for the Vertibird. You know of only one other person you would trust to watch your back. Ulysses is exactly where he said he would be, camped out in front of Yes Man’s main terminal in the Lucky 38. He has his pack leaned up against a far wall with a sleeping bag rolled out in front of the monitor. You exit the elevator in the middle of a discussion between the two. Yes Man: “…post Civil War saw a rapid increase in industry, population, GDP, migration and just about every other relevant metric!”Ulysses is sitting in a simple dining chair while hunched over a notebook he’s scribbling in. Ulysses: “It seems war creates the basis for a healthy society, but only after the conflict ends.”Yes Man: “That’s what my databanks tell me! Every time the United States left a war, they were stronger and more optimistic which bled into many facets of life! Of course, this wasn’t the case when nuclear weaponry was involved. Oh, hiya Courier!”Ulysses turns around and shuts his notebook, standing and giving you his measure of respect. Ulysses: “Courier, it’s good to see you. I’ve taken the liberty of catching myself up on the stats of things. Plus, a few history lessons.”Yes Man: “He sure is curious! I haven’t had time to reset my cycles in days!”You glance over back to his pack and see a stack of notebooks of varying styles and sizes. [I hate to interrupt but something has come up, and I could use your help. Follow me to my armory.]Ulysses nods and heads to get his pack while you head back to the elevator. Once the both of you are inside, you clue him in. What do you know about this Boomer Blight?]“A bio-engineered weapon, targeted at you or the Mojave in general. Exposure results in horrific mutations or a highly-communicable and deadly sickness. Either way, it’s a threat.”
Yes it is and currently, the Zion Valley is fully infested and beyond saving.]“A shame. Zion was beautiful. But we’re beyond containment, so what’s the plan?”The conversation continues as the two of you exit the elevator and into your personal armory. You’re missing much of the power armor after making a donation to the NVAF but have added through your recent travels. A rifle from the bunker at Hawthorne and armor from one of the dead 80’s near Creech. [I have a nuclear bomb and while I can’t be sure, the yield is over 4 megatons. The plan is to place it somewhere in Zion where we will then activate the timer and the fuck outta there. For good.]“As good a plan as any.”He begins separating his gear and taking a peruse through your private stock. You take a look at the few sets of power armor you have left. Your Remnants Enclave suit and a set of T-51.[We’ll both be using Power Armor. I hope you know how to use it.]“I trained on it years ago with a Brotherhood Chapter far out East in payment. The T-51 is a fine set for the task at hand.”You know what you’re getting into, but have to be conscious of weight. The two sets of armor and the bomb will more or less eat up the lift capacity of the Vertibird. That means ammo will be light and you have little room for medicine or other supplies. This needs to be a quick arrival and departure. That being said, you will still need some heavy firepower. The two of you begin organizing your mission gear in complete silence. You don’t say it out loud, but it’s nice to work with someone of the same caliber. You bring a Fatman with a handful of warheads, another custom Shiskebab and the Tri-Beam. The only other thing you make room for are the remaining napalm and incendiary grenades you have. Ulysses grabs the Heavy Incinerator, a machete and two 10MM sub machine guns. He also included a bundle of plasma grenades, because you can never have enough grenades. [Alright, once more into the breach.]Twelve hours later, you and Ulysses are suited up in the back of the Vertibird while the device is strapped underneath the bird. The two of you have been discussing the merits of an oligarchy while on the way to Zion. While illuminating, it also had the intended effect of distracting you from the goal at hand. *bxzt* FIVE MINUTES *bxzt*Daisy’s voice comes over faint in the speakers of the cabin. You nod to Ulysses and put your helmet on. Checking the seals of the suit, you lumber over the side door and rip it open. Rushing wind fills the cabin and the unnatural greenery of Zion spreads out before you. >1d100, BO3 (DT35)
Rolled 46 (1d100)>>6322423ah shit more rolls
Rolled 82 (1d100)>>6322423Casually tell Ulysses that we're making him our Vice Director and heir.
Rolled 22 (1d100)>>6322423fug, nat 1 here we go.
>>6322428Until we have a Mojave rose baby for him to uncle !!!
>>6322428do that as we're bathed in light from the mushroom cloudKodak moment if there ever was one
Courier Six and Ulysses fighting together is sure to be kino. I wonder if the Blight cooked some new horrors
The morning sun is just now bathing Zion in warm light, though you’re sure not much of it touches the jungle floor. It’s not the unnatural beauty that gets your attention, but the objects flying straight for the Vertibird getting larger and larger.*crzck* WE HAVE VISITORS *sztt*Daisy alerts you of what you already know, and you’re way ahead of her. You turn on the internal comms for the Vertibird.[Let us handle it, get us where we need to go.]You close the circuit and turn to Ulysses. He also has his helmet on and is loading both machine guns. You’d kill for a minigun right now. Patching into his speakers, you gesture towards his closed door. [Hitch yourself up to the Vertibird and try to keep those flying freaks away from us.]During the flight here and in between politically philosophical discussions, you gave Ulysses the tour of the Vertibird. On each side of the Vertibird are hard points where heavy weaponry can be attached for use. While neither of you brought the appropriate firepower, power armor can also be attached which grants the user greater maneuverability. Ulysses hooks the back of his T-51 to the hardpoint and leans out the Vertibird. Daisy’s baby jerks to the right and behind leaning dangerously before the internal compensators increase power to the left engine and steadies the craft. The 10MM sub machine guns aren’t the best weapon for this task but it’s what you have and Ulysses’ aim is almost as good as yours. Hundreds of yards away, the unidentified flying objects begin dropping under a measured stream of 10MM rounds. But not enough of them to down.As they get closer, you see them for what they truly are. Another disgusting mutation born out of the unique ecosystem of Zion. If it was a bird once, its wings are now longer and wider, but much thinner. So thin that you assume them to be translucent. Their body is long and bony, more similar to a praying mantis than any bird. More details become clearer as the swarm numbering in the 50’s approaches the Vertibird. Ulysses bolsters his peashooters and begins shooting gouts of flame from his incinerator.But just as the flock is about to impact the Vertibird, they scatter and dive down into the canopy top of Zion below. *shrzk* WHATEVER YOU BOYS DID, IT WORKED. COMING IN FOR LANDING NOW. *bzirk*
Before you have time to consider the reasons for those creatures pulling off, your heart drops into your stomach as Daisy’s bird seems to fall out of the sky. You nearly bend the stability bar with your augmented strength as the Vertibird finally reaches the detonation point. You chose The Sentinel as good a detonation point as any. Considering the suspected yield, a small peak like Sentinel shouldn’t impact the explosion too much. You remember a relatively flat plateau at the Southern edge, still above most of the valley but a good staging area. If it wasn’t for your pipboy map, you wouldn’t know what you’re looking at. Zion has turned into a green carpet with little geographical difference. Daisy finishes her descent and is now hovering fifty yards above the canopy. Too close for comfort but you need the incendiary munitions to drop to half the tree level below the canopy. You give a thumbs-up to Ulysses and the two of you begin dropping what napalm and incendiary grenades you have left out of the Vertibird. Within seconds, plumes of flame shoot up from below and consume everything in reach with a cleansing fire. You idly wonder if Big Mountain has any sort of pesticide that would make your job a thousand times easier, but you file that under “to do sometime later and monitor the progress. Not nearly enough foliage has been burned away for your tastes but that’s why Ulysses has the incinerator. Daisy lowers her craft around 30 feet from the ground floor and both couriers drop off their respective sides and hit the still-burning jungle floor. [I’m sure everything in this godforsaken valley knows we’re here. Let’s get this over with.]Ulysses blinks his helmet lights green in confirmation and begins burning a greater clearing for the nuclear device while you hold overwatch with your tri-beam. But no creatures scurry out of the dark jungle and these few precious minutes allows enough space for Daisy to lower the bomb to the floor and you to disconnect the straps from the VTOL. “I think we’re in the clear.”A rumble shakes the ground, causing Ulysses to take a knee and you to grab onto the bomb for support.YOU HAVE LEFT MY SANCTUM BEFORE, ALIVE. THIS TRANSGRESSION, I WILL NOT ABIDEThe voice rumbles through your brain and causes your vision to dim as your head pounds with pain.Ulysses regains his footing, and runs over to you. “Courier, we have incoming targets.”You can’t seem to catch your breath and your body feels sluggish and drained. “Ulysses..did…what was that voice?”He shakes his head as the helmet bobs its lights back and forth across your vision. “What voice?”The earth shakes again, dropping both of you to the ground. >1d100, BO3 (DT90)
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>6323025Rolling for great justice...
Rolled 10 (1d100)>>6323025jesus christ. we're not passing that. Niggah let us fucking just drop a bomb.
Rolled 59 (1d100)>>6323025And another Fallout fanfic features a Joshua Monster.Are we ever going to drop this fucking bomb? I'm sick of Zion at this point. I just want it to stop dragging and be over.
>>6323037Zion is more of a state of mind at this point. But don’t worry, last roll from you guys. And that 89 basically passes short of a little friction
>>6323032>>6323037C'mon fellas, this is an endgame level threat, more or less the main antagonist of the plot, and clearly it's a story element the QM has put a lot of thought and effort into.
>>6323045Its not so much having a boss fight, its just fucking the dice man.
>>6323042https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA6wmf-MUP8>>6323045I get it, it's just frustrating to take a shot on goal after much anticipation only for the goal to suddenly seem to teleport twenty metres back and you miss your shot. I want to move on to new things now rather than get stuck here even more - Zion is this arc's villain but it's definitely not the main antagonist of the story. There'll be more threats of its calibre and greater to come. I don't even want to think about how we'll deal with the Tunnelers.
Uh oh. Do we know about the Master? Because I think it's time we called up the Brotherhood bigwigs and start screaming about another psychic super mutant Thing that's going to take over the West Coast.
>>6323059I think it's Joshua, hijacked and mutated by the Blight. We didn't see him die, which is just too much of a hook to ignore and he mentions us leaving his sanctum before, which is a very Joshua thing to say. That and his infamous role in DUST.
>>6323059>>6323060Option A: It's Joshua's corrupted husk having somehow developed psychic abilities, whether through latent talent he never knew about or the Blight somehow evolving this ability.Or Option B: The Blight itself has developed some sort of central gestalt with the aforementioned psychic powers.Either way, I'm really fucking glad we did this now and didn't wait any longer to use the bomb.
>>6323057Sadly even after the nuke we still must do clean up or it will just come back. Which I do hope our limited researchers can do something or it will come down to flame and bodies. Granted it will be hard to for the people that did this to fine a good spot with this much greenery, so I assume. >>6323078I just hope the clean up with goes with out problems. Otherwise I doubt we can talk it out with this thing.
>>6323078>a fungal collective consciousnessoh great, maybe we can sic it against Yes Man when House inevitably subverts him/it
>>6323025As i expected it gained enough mass for some form of intellect beyond mere insticts to form. All in all in a very short timeframe. This will not be the end of it.>>6323037Its never so simple with an enemy of this size. It might retreat away for a while if nothing else, it has made good effort in expanding in all directions remember. The nuke should hurt it which allows us some breath to resolve more problems in the Directorate.If it had been something small and concentrated in a small space like say the Fiends, wiping it out would be easy. But since we found even bikers not near Zion with the Blight....>>6323057I think we have too many enemies for one of them to be considered the main one. Hopefully they will start getting in the way of eachother hahaha
A column of ash and earth shoots up next to you, followed by three others elsewhere in the clearing. You’re slow to get back on your feet and Ulysses is already up and shooting into the jungle. Rolling onto your back, you see those same bony birds circling ahead and diving down to attack.*szhrt* IT’S GETTING HAIRY UP HERE *bzrt*[Daisy, we’re triggering the bomb now. Just a few minutes.]She radios back an affirmative and gains altitude for better maneuverability. You would kill to take a hit of jet right now but you’re not taking this helmet off and you don’t have the drug cocktail that’s meant for this suit. Instead, you will your sluggish body up just to be set upon by a pack of spore carriers. Ulysses is too busy defending his half of the perimeter so type get your tri-beam up close and begin blasting from point blank range. YOU WILL NOT LEAVE ME TWICEThe same pain flows from your head down to your toes but the adrenaline of combat helps to clear your mind. The laser rifle goes empty just as the last of the immediate threats lay dead, thin wisps of smoke drifting up from their body. The smoke of the fires bring visibility down to almost nothing but of course the Zion creatures don’t seem to be bothered. [ULYSSES, COVER ME.]You shout over the closed circuit between the suits and hope he hears, and can help. You sprint over to the bomb, your power armor letting you fly across the smoldering clearing in just seconds. The suit of armor doesn’t give much in the way of dexterity but you take the time to input the code, activating the weapon of mass destruction. [OKAY, WE-]You're hit in the side by something, causing you to stumble and the breath to fly out of you. Unsheathing your shiskebab, you turn and see that it’s not a monstrosity, at least an intact one. The bottom half of a former Yau Guai cub is still twitching, bleeding out its green goo. You look at Ulysses who’s still holding his machete, now dripping in the same bright green liquid with the other half of the cub at his own feet.“We should leave.”Always perceptive. You take a second to reload your rifle, the blade in your right hand with the tri-beam in your left. The other courier is emptying the rest of his tank to create a wall of fire for your retreat. The birds are still making occasional dive attacks but their accuracy leaves much to be desired due to the smoke. [Daisy, the bomb is armed. Get us outta here!]
You can’t see the Vertibird through the smoke or hear it over the firefight, but you know she’s still up there. *crzk* ROGER, COMING IN HOT *kzrt*Ulysses has backed up to your position while quickly burning through his remaining ammunition. Instead of normal spore carriers, or really anything you would recognize, the new enemies are just fleshy amalgamations of all shapes and sizes. Some have eight appendages which allow them to skitter along the jungle floor while others are smaller and dart from tree to tree using their sticky, vine-like skin. You’re not sure how or why but what passes for “natural” in the wasteland is being warped and twisted to unrecognizable levels. You’re not even sure what used to be the freaks you’re putting down with concentrated laser fire.Your musings help steady your nerves and bring you into perfect combat zen, so much so that you don’t notice the Vertibird drop out of the sky right above your position. Thick eddies of smoke swirl and dance as the Vertibird’s twin engines help to clear the smoke still streaming from fires all around. You and Ulysses waste no time clambering up into the cab and before you can get both feet planted, Daisy takes her baby straight up in the air and out of danger. But it’s still not over. Ulysses thunks you on your shoulder paldron.“Look.”He’s pointing away from the detonation sight towards a distance in the trees. Something massive is moving through the jungle towards the bomb. You’re not sure how much damage the device can take but you’re not taking any chances. You kneel down and ready the Fat Man. [Daisy, take us Northwest, towards that disturbance in the trees.]*szhrk* Your funeral. And mine. *bzlt*The craft dives again to pick up speed, directly to whatever the hell is big enough to move the jungle like that. You pull the trigger and the first warhead is away. Another warhead is loaded before the first one explodes.DingThe first warhead explodes in a mushroom cloud as the other heads directly where you expect the unknown contact to be. NOOOOOOOOAAAAAUUUUGGGGGGHHYou don’t get the luxury of appreciating the twin mushroom clouds stopping whatever was on the way to the bomb. This internal screech dims the world around you. If you weren’t already kneeling, you might have fallen right out of the Vertibird. Imagine that. [Ulysses….might be a bad time…I want you to be my second-in-command.]Your Deputy Director closes his side door and walks over to shut yours as well. “I’d be honored, Courier Six. With that being said, it may not be wise to send us both on these suicide missions.”You can help but laugh through the pain, fear and exhaustion. You look at the clock within your helmet. Any second now…
A blinding light fills the porthole windows on both sides and the shockwave rolls through the Vertibird. If you misjudged the yield and you’re too close…*bzkt* HANG ON BOYS, WE’RE RIDING THE LIGHTNING *czrk*The bird bucks and dives but doesn’t fall out of the sky. On the turn back home, you get a glimpse of the massive mushroom cloud billowing up from Zion. You can’t say you’re sad to see it go. Zion was once beautiful, but if you ever return, it’ll be too soon. The only lingering question, one you’re not ready to seriously ask yourself; what was that voice? And did the nuclear blast kill it?
>>6323344>>6323347>>6323351[b]QUEST COMPLETED: WHEN THE FIRE COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN[/b]https://youtu.be/6Tt7-_pbklY?si=EWNCtx9h42jjpJ8e
Happy Saturday New Vegas. The nights may be getting colder but our time together always seems to warm me up. But enough of these sweet nothings, it’s time for the news. It’s a bird! No, it’s a plane! No! It’s- well yeah it is a plane. A small workshop out near Goodsprings has built an actual working plane from scratch. While the owners originally did it because of a dare, they’re hoping to begin selling them to businesses or even the New Vegas Directorate. If that’s not a sign of the time, folks, I don’t know what is. Here’s another one for you good people. The Secretary of Health and Human Services have warned against travel to certain neighbors in Freeside to help contain the recent cholera outbreak. She claims the situation is under control and that containment is the top priority for the government. Note to self, wash hands. This news bulletin comes from the reclusive, and newly-admitted settlement of the Westside Republic. They are now accepting new applications for residency with particular focus on roboticists, doctors, skilled craftsmen and anyone with an educational background. I just hope they have room for a humble radio host! Lastly, you may have seen a mushroom cloud far off in the Northeast. I have it in good authority that a military operation, led by our dear Director, resulted in the total destruction of hostile biological agents that may have posed a threat to Directorate citizens. Officials are monitoring for radioactive fallout but have no cause for alarm. I salute The Courier for his bravery and swift action against foreign enemies. That’s all I have for now. But remember, it’s a crazy, crazy wasteland out there and anything can happen. Especially in a place like New Vegas. Now, radioactive isotopes aren’t the only thing filling the sky. Here’s Elvis!https://youtu.be/zf2VYAtqRe0?si=wlv3b0nU9vnYXTta>>6323370Mission titles for bigger courier tasks are such a good idea, I’m a hack for not thinking of it before. Too late to start doing them here on out?
>>6323500Never too late babe, sorry if I stole any thunder on that one; felt appropriate
>>6323500Ooh, an aircraft workshop? I'm definitely interested in whatever they've come up with. I'd also like to see if we can contract them to restore the abandoned aircraft from places like Jean, Nipton Road and Searchlight if that's within their expertise.Never too late to start naming things.
>>6323370based
>>6323508I bet it's Jane's, and if they're able to scale up we could have an air force....
>>6323351Hallelujah, that's one sword of Damocles firmly postponed. Naturally we're going to have to finish the job at some point (and deal with whatever was talking to us), but hopefully all this will be crippled long enough for us to put it down for good.>>6323500>Too late to start doing them here on out?Hell no. I'd love having dramatic quest titles for when the Courier has to personally deal with serious shit.
>>6323508yea this is super excitingI'd contract them to build a small utility plane along the lines of the Po-2 or Piper Cub
Good to hear I can hop on that wagon mid-ride. Won’t use them for every courier action but the bigger/longer missions could be cute. Next up: A few small tasks until it’s time to travel into legion lands once again.
>>6323511Remind me who Jane is?For an air force, I'd rather we task them with jetplane restoration like I mentioned if they can do it since I doubt whatever they're making would be particularly suitable for combat, especially against a major adversary. But that could be significantly more complex and something to build up to later.>>6323516There is the question of what sort of aircraft would actually be useful to us. What would we use small utility aircraft for? We can use them as scout craft for the armed forces and possibly light strike craft without needing to call the Boomers every time, but I'm less sure of civil uses right now. Perhaps as charter flights to California for rich tourists? They are presumably going to need fuel though, so we'd need to get on coal liquefaction or our own ethanol brewing first.
>>6323500There's a few uses for this plane. We can see about selling it to the Boomers for support, or we can use it with those trainees we got for flying troops and vips hopefully, or transporting rare Goods.
>>6323658Mistyped! Jean's Sky Diving, just next to Goodspringd
>>6323658it's called general aviation, we do a little general aviationeering>crop (or Blight) dusters>VIP transport>aerial observation (cattle, fires, weather, wildlife, you name it) and mapping>courier dutyand this is before we get into the military usesjust a great little force multiplierremember how we spent an action and a few weeks to not find out what's going on with tthe water level in our lake? yeah
Your most recent trip to Zion wasn’t nearly as bad, but the mental strain shocked you. Whatever that beast was, it was talking to you specifically and it certainly wasn’t happy. You’re in no rush to head East for Edward’s assassination orders so you instead cross some things off your never-ending list of responsibilities. The most important task is to check wind direction so ensure heavy fallout doesn’t blanket the Mojave. You should have done more planning beforehand, but the chance to halt further infection by the Blight was more than worth the risk. In perhaps the greatest break of luck in your reign so far, the prevailing winds in the region are North-Northeast meaning very little of d the initial and strongest fallout will hit anywhere around the Mojave. God help anyone living north of Zion.You can’t be sure what the long-term impact will be regionally and you should plan on numerous radiation sickness cases in the next few months, but the worst will pass you by. Breathing a sigh of relief, you turn towards less-serious domestic concerns. One of these isn’t necessarily a concern but a potential source of growth that really hasn’t been tapped yet. The (now) four big families of the strip.Instead of meeting at the Lucky 38, you make it a point to hold this meeting at a spot on the Strip. Earl J’s Surf and Turf is a rising star in the food scene and sits on one of the less-traveled sections of the Strip. When Earl J heard that The Director, the Secretary of Tourism and all four family heads wanted to dine at his establishment, Earl was all too happy to reserve the private room and bring out the “prime cuts”. Sarah on the other hand was a little disappointed that this dinner wasn’t just between you and her but she is glad to have everyone in one place talking about investment. There’s no place on The Strip that’s “seedy”, the Securitrons make sure of that. But there are certainly some locations that are off the beaten path, either being down an alley or tucked between two larger buildings. Earl J’s is one of these places. A classy joint but a far cry from the headline of New Vegas. The first hour is spent catching up and making friendly small-talk. This is where you meet the head of the El Presidente for the first time.Hayden Flint is everything Swank, Marjorie and Cachino aren’t. While civilized, the three original families are tribes and much of their attitude and personalities march this. Hayden is a businessman who got his start running establishments back in New Reno and has a penchant for turning a tidy profit wherever he is. When the joint investment was signed, Hoss headhunted him to run the new flagship investment out here in New Vegas.
He’s a nice enough man, but quiet and calculating. Understandably, the three other family heads gave him a wide berth. After drinks and some light appetizers, you gather up the attendees. [Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for joining me here at Earl J’s. It is my first time here and I’m happy to see other venues thriving just as yours are.]You get light applause from the family heads and Sarah. It’s true, business has been very good for The Strip. [With the NCR-Legion war far from this land and our roads safer than ever, travelers domestic and foreign aren’t afraid to visit the Mojave as they once were.]You receive a little more lively applause this time around, deservedly so. With the Legion not propping up raider groups and their soldiers in other theaters, the NVD has some very safe roads. [But there is more work to be done and that’s why I’ve called you here today. New Vegas is unlike any other place in the wasteland but aside from your four casinos, the remainder of the strip could use some real love and care. I am strongly implying the four of you to use some of your comfortable profits and reinvest into New Vegas. I’d ask you to throw some money into Freeside, but that may be a bridge too far.]Hayden looked unmoved, but the three other family heads almost spit out their drinks.Cachino: Hold a fucking second, you’re allowing us to invest outside of our casinos?[Yeah? Why wouldn’t I?]Swank: House wasn’t as cool a customer as you. He said he would end us if we dared get out of our lane, in more words than that. Cachino: It’s always nice to go swimming in my pool of caps, but I’d love to open some brothels over in Freeside. Marjorie: You’re right in thinking that the White Gloves wouldn’t be caught dead anywhere other than New Vegas, but there are some business ventures we have considered. If you’re giving us…permission….we could begin immediately. You’re shocked and surprised. Why wouldn’t House have wanted the other families to invest their vast fortunes? If it’s a worry of influence, that’s balanced out by NCR investments and your own stubbornness. You look to Hayden. [Mr. Flint, does the El Presidente feel the same way?]He’s said no more than a few words this entire dinner but has been taking the entire meeting in full. Flint: As I’m sure everyone here is aware, the El Presidente has just opened and is the smallest of the three on The Strip. While I am confident that we will become a mainstay just as the Tops, Ultra Luxe and Gomorrah are, right now the best focus is on the casino. The three other family heads look smug, but you see the logic and you didn’t expect much else. [Thank you, Mr. Flint. I look forward to visiting El Presidente. Secretary Weintraub, can you please share some specifics on investment and growth opportunities for everyone else here?]
You sit back down and finish the rest of your drink. The liquor selection at this place isn’t much to write home about but they have a killer Nuka-Cola frozen drink you’re in love with. Over dinner, Sarah spends the time espousing her ideas about what the three families could spend their pile of assorted currency on. For as enthusiastic as she is, Sarah doesn’t have a finger on the pulse of the Omertàs or White Gloves. Cachino wants to appeal to the lowest common denominator, no surprise there, while Marjorie is still sticking to cuisine and New Vegas in general. Swank and the Chairmen are a little more open-minded but the reality is that anyone traveling to New Vegas for pleasure or for business usually does not bring their children. Business talk slows as the main meal comes out and it does not disappoint. The Scallops and Brahmin Ribeye are fantastic and you need to find out what sauce they put over the clams. Great food aside, all three original families promised a year-long investment of 200,000 caps each, mostly in tourism and entertainment. It may not help your long-term industrial plans but the more attractive New Vegas is, the better. You give your best wishes to the rest of the families as Cachino, Swank and Marjorie depart full and happy. It’s Mr. Flint who stops on his way out. Flint: Director, a word alone please?He makes a small gesture to Sarah, evidently wanting to be “alone” alone. [Of course. Thanks for your help tonight, Secretary.]Once again, Sarah looks disappointed that it was all work and no play tonight but that’s the price of running a nation. When she leaves, you gesture for him to sit down at the table across from you. Flint: Thank you Director. While I do not represent every single NCR investment interest out here, I hold no small amount of sway with those vested in the tourism industry. Which is the majority of our investment out here, I add. That being said, I have been asked to propose two things to you. First, that the El Presidente be exempt from taxes to the NVD for five years. Due to the resources needed to overhaul and staff the casino, there’s a very big risk of going under which would be terrible for everyone involved. Secondly, your government has issued a proclamation that any natural resources are NVD property. While I applaud the foresight, the fact that the copper deposit hasn’t been touched yet opens an opportunity for cooperation and some enterprising industrialists would love to get a mine quickly set up. You don’t have to answer now, but my benefactors hope the relationship with the NVD will continue to bear fruit. He bids a good evening and leaves you alone in the private room at Earl J’s. At least it’s not an overt threat this time.
>>6324499The copper is my thought for the next mine anyways. Coal would be if we can't get more power out of the dam or windfarm. Yet getting caps into the area and getting people better off. It will be good for their health and our income.I assume we will need to look outside of NVD for some of the resources we need for the Securitrons.
>>6324513I broke down the raw resources last thread and the only things we likely won't be able to get our hands on from within southeastern Nevada (albeit with outposts for the further-away resources) are uranium (even if we did, enrichment would be so hellishly complex it wouldn't be worth it) and chromium (we have the refinery, but the nearest source of chromite is in Bagdad in Legion territory).Really, burning coal for power seems like a waste of a finite resource. With the effort needed to construct a large coal power plant, we could be adding new solar thermal capacity (iterating on HELIOS One's design, sans secret laser) or putting up new wind turbines (the Spring Mountains ridgelines west of Vegas have excellent wind potential) instead.
>>6324544Yes Man: The two resources the Mojave has in absence are energy and clean water so you’re exactly right! The best use of coal, besides a valuable trading resource, is in the production of steel through coke.
>>6324499that will be a "no and fuck you" on being tax exempt... unless there is something unique he can do for us?investors, we can always use>>6324544who said anything about enrichment?trading with the Legion for chromium should be posibleas for power, let's first find out what's wrong with our lake
>>6324565Weather machine + lightning rod = mucho power Weather machine + solar panels = mucho power
>>6324565You can't do very much with natural uranium. It should go without saying that it will need enrichment to be usable for fission power systems unless we can can substitute the fission batteries in the Securitrons for something else.I ballsed up, I meant titanium and not chromium. The Legion won't be mining Ti since there have been no functioning Ti refineries anywhere since the War, indeed the ilmenite deposits at Bagdad are considered subeconomic (at least by OTL standards) so there likely won't be any existing workings there. We'd have to kick off titanium mining ourselves to start with, perhaps via a mining concession.Obviously Hoover Dam is our priority and we still have the other half of those turbines to restore and then we also have the Davis Dam (and even the Parker Dam if we're feeling brave) to check out as well so we're only using less than half of the potential nameplate hydropower capacity available to us. It's just a consideration for the future or if we want to diversify our power sources earlier to not be so dependent on Hoover if anything goes wrong there. Either way, there's no pressing need.>>6324547Ya mean abundance there? Coal also for manufacturing synthetic hydrocarbons for fuel and even plastics.
>>6324573I don't know how cool the securitron factory actually ismaybe it can ingest natural uranium and produce batteriesotherwise, yes, a multi-year project and expensive as fuck, even if we do go the detergent route>We'd have to kick off titanium mining ourselves to start with, perhaps via a mining concession.this actually dovetails nicely with my plans to subvert the Legion>>6324566weather machine + hydroelectric dam = mucho power, food and cleanlinessno need to complicate things, just make it rain, bby!
>>6324598Using the weather control machine to provide water is an attractive idea, but we don't know its limitations as a technology. Does it depend on scarce atmospheric moisture? What's its maximum range and power? What bugs might this experimental technology have? We're also in a desert and have to be really careful with dumping excessive rain on it.
>>6324565I do believe there was not a turn post about it, but the water is saying it's a system problem. "It’s confirmed that the water shortage isn’t due to Mojave usage but increased population, no water control and increased industry/agriculture is straining the plumbing system of the Mojave."Still it could be cool to make a the lake useable for resources like food or transport for goods.
>>6324725While I enjoy some of the granularity that's applied to different elements of this quest - like currency exchange rates and having to figure out wind direction for fallout or even looking at the various industrial applications of coal and chromium - I think for the mad science weather machine, we should assume that if we roll good to make it work right, we can use it to print water and tornado dipshits without anyone in the thread having to write a meteorological thesis explaining how that works without disturbing the delicate (made up, fantastical, mutant filled) ecosystem. All that real world science and chemistry and economics that has been flexed here is cool, but it doesn't change that in this setting, radiation can make you an immortal zombie or cause a bug to multiply in size, and there are household appliances with batteries that last for centuries. I think the weather machine should probably be viewed as functioning in a similar, fantastical manner.
>>6324735Good perspective anon and that’s the attitude I take. I think people on 4chan are a little smarter than the average population and if you’ve stuck around in this quest to this point, you’re probably further above that line So when it concerns fantastical technologies, it’s more a matter of time and good rolls, plus some shopping lists to make a tech work than it is actually telling me how you think it would work No holds barred for unforeseen consequences though
>>6324735Ultimately, I know that's true and I'm overthinking it. Issue is, I enjoy overthinking it as a thought exercise even if reality is more abstracted.Points about what the weather machine is capable of and whether we can rely on this unproven tech are still valid, though I get a lot of that will be decided by dice.
>>6324544I assume we can loot fission batteries from old world spots. We still haven't explored Area H1 for example, I'm sure they have lots of cool tech stuff lying around, if it hasn't been looted already (I almost want to hold out for a Nat 100, save the boon, and use it to explore Area 51 or some other military installation, but no idea when one of those might come along). Otherwise I'm sure we can talk to the Brotherhood, maybe do a little quid pro quo, we should put some more effort into weaning the Mojave chapter off Lost Hills. Or even our new Enclave folks, they might figure something out.
>>6324974We definitely can, but there's only so many of those around and they're a finite resource. I don't know how long a fission battery lasts (I assume as long as is story-convenient) but if we're going to manufacture robots and vehicles and such at scale we'll need some kind of manufacturing pipeline for power cores. I believe the NCR has a production chain going for enriched uranium given I assume they're still running the nuclear plant at Gecko and they seem to have an awful lot of fission cores to go around for their vehicles, aircraft etc. Perhaps it would be better to skip fission batteries directly and go to microfusion tech, though how complex that would be to manufacture I don't know given Fallout technology consists of magic black boxes that can be MacGyvered together with a bobby pin, tin can and duct tape when the camera isn't looking.
With the treasury being empty for the month and you not being too keen on dipping into the gold reserves, you take this as an opportunity to consolidate what you’ve done so far. There’s nothing as important as the work you’ve done with the Revised Mojave Rehabilitation Plan. While every department has had some part in the RMRP, four stick out to you. Commerce Secretary Garrett, Interior Secretary Lewis, Ag Secretary Gunderson and Transport Secretary Tejada. You don’t have them meet at some nice restaurant in New Vegas, but at the NVD headquarters south of the city. You haven’t been there since your government moved offices. The first problem is actually getting there. A local group runs a daily caravan down, bringing supplies and people back and forth with it being a six hour trip from The Strip. You get to talking to an employee of the Energy Department and after their awe of sitting next to The Director wears off, you glean some useful information off of her. The former REPCONN Headquarters are in pretty good shape and the renovation work done wasn’t horrible, but the biggest problem is getting people down there and back. As there is no real housing near the facility, employees either live in the headquarters in unused cubicles or in the surrounding rundown buildings. This results in a similar lifestyle as those who work at Hoover, staying at the office until the weekends when they’ll travel back to see family or visit The Strip. Security down there isn’t the best either, with a few gangs having grown around intimidating workers and businesses for caps. The trip down South is uneventful otherwise and you arrive at the NVD Headquarters. It is true that the area is a little livelier than before with a few saloons, diners and motels having opened for not only other traffic but specifically for government workers. The grounds surrounding the administrative building are cleaner than before with the large sign at the beginning of the driveway now reading “New Vegas Directorate Administrative Headquarters”. As you walk into the facility, a horrible realization hits. If someone were to hit this place, there’s no real security stopping them. Your government may not be decapitated and the military could function just fine but almost everything else would suffer huge setbacks. This is only further proven when a smiling front desk helper, without any identification shown, directs you to where the four Secretaries have gathered in a meeting room on the fourth floor.
Raul: So then I said, that’s not a lump of rutting flesh, that's my wife!The small meeting room erupts in laughter as you enter but quickly dies down when they realize who it is. [No need to quiet down for me, Raul is a funny fucker. Was that the joke about the Pastor’s daughter?]Raul: Caught red-handed, boss. It’s the ol’ reliable. You take a seat at the table next to Francine and Raul while everyone gives their greetings. [Well I’m sorry to interrupt the comedy club but I thought this month would be a good opportunity to discuss how the Revised Mojave Rehabilitation Plan is progressing, from each of your departments.]Raul: Especially since we have no money, right boss?The other three Secretaries murmur in support.[I know everyone’s budget has been cut and this month and there’s been no funds for any projects, but you all know the reasons. I’m happy to say that not only will they all be restored, but every department will have their monthly budget increased to 8,000 caps a month.]That gets smiles and applause from your Secretaries, as it should. It’s going to be a lot of money out of your treasury. [But I expect results from everyone, much more than in the past year. While I will receive a council report next month from everyone, let’s focus back on the RMRP. Who wants to start?]Garrett: I will, as I’ve been more involved than anyone. First, that’s great news about the budget. I will be able to hire more border officials not only check goods but to extract the correct tax. As imports and exports have increased, my department has had difficulties collecting the proper duties. But as for your question, it’s been an improvement across the board in every way. While some industries and facilities take time to set up and begin production, there is a clear increase in the output of the region at large. Lewis: Sorry to interrupt ma’am, but I want to agree with you. My boys down in Sloan and now over near Searchlight used to have a hell of a time finding a shovel or pick worth a damn. Now, they’re still not pre-war quality or like back West but it’s a far cry from before. Garrett: That’s the gist for me. Anything not worth getting from the NCR is being made here, mostly simple tools and goods. But it’s a start. We’re importing almost everything else from the Republic.Gunderson: That’s a dangerous path. I took a class on this back in university. The more we buy from the NCR, the more dependent we are on them and the less our domestic industry can grow.[Good point, Ted. But that’s why we have the massive investment plan, to inject government funds into certain parts of the economy to grow it unnaturally and keep it in the NVD. With how expensive it is to transport things back and forth between here and Shady Sands, the more we produce here the better.]
Garrett: That’s the idea of the program, but we may have been a little over eager in the rollout. As I mentioned, the region is more productive now than it’s been probably since the Great War but we took the path of least resistance and focused on basic tools, goods and services. We’re still dependent on the Republic for anything more than hammers and nails. You feel like you want to scream. The plan specifically focuses on basic industrial staples and more intensive industries in a completely different phase. Deep breaths, Six. [Part A of Phase 2 called for exactly what you’re describing, simple production and low-skilled industries. I imagine everything else will follow. The goal is to get people to work, export what we can to the NCR and Legion and, above all, keep domestic prices low to drive consumption.]Ted: Certain farm equipment I’ve monitored has dropped in price and increased in quality. It’s far from what the NCR is using on their best farms but it’s progress. [Good! That’s what I want to hear! Anyone else?]Raul: I’ve seen a lot more people on the roads, boss. I still haven’t really figured out what you want to do in terms of this “transportation” business but I’ve been in the Mojave for years and this is the busiest I’ve seen it. Maybe except for when the NCR soldiers first came. You take a minute to collect your thoughts. Everything is on the up and up, even if no firm numbers can be given. You chalk that up to the relative decentralized nature of the region and the illiteracy throughout the wastes. [So we’re progressing well on the RMRP?]Garrett: Production wise, I think so. The issue may become overproduction if anything. The NCR can manufacture just about anything we can, so why buy from us? Eventually we’re going to hit a bottleneck and I’m worried it could crash us: Ted: I agree. We will never match the industrial strength of the NCR so we shouldn’t try beyond providing the basics domestically. What we need to focus on is our strengths, the products and services we can provide better and cheaper than everyone else. Not to do Chomp’s job for him, but power and fresh water are our greatest resources and we should be leveraging that. Ted may be a smug bastard, but you’re impressed by the young man. He’s usually on the ball and he’s to the crux of the matter quicker than most. (Rest of the post will follow tomorrow morning. Wanted to get something out this evening for you all to ruminate on.)
>>6325041We may want to station a troop here to support the area. At least until we get a National Guard unit made to watch the place for cheaper upkeep. Then look into a bus or some other improved public transport like a train.
>>6325060the very first thing we need to get started is the trans-Mojave highway, a nice claycrete brick road starting from Cottonwood cove, going North to Vegas and beyond along the railway track (or directly on it since the embankment should be fine as a foundation)this will employ a lot of people, absorb some/most of the glut of production of basic tools and basically solve most of our logistics problems
>>6325060We probably should invest more into our military, we've haven't been doing much expansion lately. Maybe another infantry company? IInd Guards or something like that. They can pull guard duty until we get the securitrons online or expand the cops. Hey, maybe we could even target NCR vets tired of the war, get an ad campaign going and piss off Kimball even more.
>>6325046young Ted is rartedvalue-added products is how you get richif you're only exporting energy and/or raw materials you'll stay a banana republic forevergranted, Batista-era-Cuba-in-the-desert can be a fun thing but I think our ambitions run quite a bit higher
>>6325131We do have two units coming next turn from Westside. I am thinking ideally we would get 4 National Guard units. One to cover The strip and Freeside, one on The Dam, one housed at HQ, one to protect the main trade rout with NCR.For the Troops get one to cover Nipton to Boulder city for using squads to patrol and cover the south. The Guard unit should help them keep the west side trade covered. One stationed at Rex to cover the north side viva patrols keeping us up to date and people covered from random animal attack. Send one unit to explore north and the other south.It will cost a lot upfront so we can slowly make the Guard to free up people. Until we can get the armor and guns in mass to make things cheaper. Mainly we just need more armor out put, we have 600+ guns for the army.>>6325115Yeah we will need roads or rail before the transport, but still it would be get to know what we can get. Maybe we can hire the plane makers to fix some of the broken bus on the roads.
You snap your fingers and point at him.[Exactly. We will never match the NCR one for one. The end goal for the NVD is a high-tech utopia where we match pre-war America and even surpass it in some cases. How do we get there? These things build on securities and for all the caps in the world, we couldn’t just construct a Securitron factory next month. So the question is, how do we leverage our water and power supply, and access to advanced technology, to get there? Another way to ask, what is the best thing we could be making for the wasteland?]The room goes silent as everyone tries to think of the best answer to your question. Minutes go by and you feel like you’re herding molerats. [Raul, you have the most experience of anyone here. Anything to suggest?]Raul: Ah, thanks for calling me old boss. I’d love to help but where I grew up, there wasn’t a lot of high-tech stuff going on after the bombs, that wasn’t happening anywhere.[Okay how about the two from the NCR? Lewis, Gunderson?]Chomp rubs the back of his head. Lewis: I came from a pretty small town, spent most of my life working with picks and shovels. I know the Republic has a few places that make some advanced stuff. I’ll say this though, people could never get enough ore. There's only so much you can do with leftover scrap, whether you’re melting it down again or just using it as is. If you can start producing quality iron, steel…that’s a good place to be. Gunderson: My background is similar to his, even if I did go to college. I’ve worked with new plows, plows hundreds of years old and ones made from whatever is lying around and I tell you, the new ones blew everything else out of the water. You want to make your robots, you’re not going to be able to use what’s sitting around the Mojave. It’s not the clearest answer you’ve ever gotten but it makes sense. The metallurgical process is as important as anything else, even if you’re still learning about the whole thing. If you can build a steady supply of reliable materials, it makes any high-tech industry possible. Garrett: I would caution attempting to rely on the NCR for that. It would make the whole process quicker and simpler but quality ore and finished metals are prohibitively expensive and would further bind us to the Republic. Raul: I finally have something useful to say, boss. I’m still learning what the hell a Transportation Secretary does but I do know the harder it is to move around, the more expensive everything is. Back down in Mexico before the war, I bought chickens at 700 pesos each. When the local government finally opened up this new bridge, the chicken farmer got to town quicker and his price dropped by almost half. Not sure how that helps us, but it’s probably good for people to be able to move around easier.
Lewis: Roads are fine and the NCR has been pretty good about patching up those bigger interstates but if we’re talking about heavy industry, rail has no match. The tracks around here aren’t extensive, but getting them fixed up and trains running will cut down travel by more than I can count. [Let’s call the meeting here. It’s been helpful to hear your perspectives on where we’re at and where we’re headed. I want you, and every other department, to have suggestions for the best industry we could focus on as we transition out of a subsistence society. Pass that along to other department heads as well.]The secretaries give their goodbyes and depart, eager to share the news of increased funding with their staff. You stay behind and scribble down some thoughts of yours. You’ve read enough history and economics to know the danger of overreliance on foreign partners and on just a handful of exports, but no one wrote the book on post-apocalyptic economies. Ha, maybe you’ll be the first. You should have brought Ulysses to this meeting. You’re still getting used to having a Deputy who you can rely on.
>>6325041Gack, we need to beef up security. Get a couple of army squads posted here as guards and train some competent security staff to check the IDs we should be issuing everyone. This isn't just a physical security threat but an espionage risk as well.>>6325060Some public transport has been mooted before and I still think trolleybuses or light trams would be our best bet. When we start producing copper for wires and finally get round to switching NV Steel back on to cast vehicular components, rails, tools etc. then we can think more about it. Though the HQ is on the rail line into Freeside, we could dig just that seemingly mostly intact section out and run some speeders back and forth to Freeside on it, Bamboo Railway-style.>>6325115The Pre-War roads are all mostly still there, they just need to have their holes filled in (I believe the DoT has been slowly working on this in the background) and a bypass built around Searchlight. This is best done with gravel and concrete with the bricks reserved for buildings given how much labour goes into making them. We shouldn't cannibalise the trackbeds either since, while we don't have the resources to do it right now, the rail lines will be important in the future and should be kept available for restoration.Really, our logistics bottlenecks are the fault of shortages of caravans and the fact we're still using pack animals for everything, though better roads would help.
>>6325132Not the point I was trying to make, rather it was to find what industry not only gets you guys to the high-tech goal but also uses a lot of water and electricity, which are your two cheapest input resources.And resources almost no one else has in abundance like you.
>>6325257Sounds like an invitation for heavy industry. We've got both titanium and aluminium on the cards for the future, which seems to fit the bill. I can't imagine literally anyone else in the world is producing the former and I'm unsure if the NCR is doing the latter - either way, with cheap power and raw resources I imagine both East and West would rip our arms off for such high-tech materials. it's kinda doubly funny in the NCR's case since my thinking is that they have so much scrap from the Boneyard that they've come down with a case of the resource curse and failed to develop their own metallurgical industry.I can also imagine we'd do well at the chemical industries since we have a lot of the raw resources for feedstock around here and a lot of the processes are energy-hungry. If we can make the desert bloom and produce large surpluses of food and have a way to export it cheaply, we'd also have the Republic over a barrel for agricultural products given their own limitations in that regard.Speaking of cheap export, how much of the cost of a lot of the stuff we're buying in from California is the cost of the item itself and how much is shipping? It takes days to reach Vegas and pack animals can only carry so much, which must balloon all the costs. Where do trade caravans go from and to in the NCR to get to Vegas anyway? Is there a railhead at Barstow they visit and just shuttle back and forth up I-15 from there or do they go further?
>>6325437>chemical industriesI really want to see if we can up our medical field. Since it would likely be our next best income source after mines, water, and power. I'm hoping we can feed off of that to grow our schooling and repairs of the NVD.
>>6325502Pharmaceuticals would be an excellent road to go down that have been discussed before and in the future we should have the expertise to not only produce complex drugs but to do active RnD. That's a long way off, but imagine if we were the only place in the world inventing and producing advanced medications. Things must be pretty grim if you have a wide variety of medical conditions about now.In any case, I was talking heavy industrial chemicals. Acids, polymers, fertilisers, solvents, halogens, pesticides, explosives, industrial gases, chemical weapons and more, which would provide a good foundation for a pharmaceutical industry to branch off from as well as support a wide variety of other sectors. But for now, that's just a dream for the day when we can explore such resource- and expertise-intensive projects and have a way to ship in bulk.
At the beginning of the month, you sent out a squad of rangers, headed by Boone, up North to trace the Colorado river and find any blockage that may result in the water levels being as low as they are. You sent them with the new off-road vehicles taken from the dead 80’s. You didn’t expect it to be too difficult of a mission, hence the relatively small force sent up north. But man plans and God laughs. Two weeks after departing, the force returns and Boone arrives at the Lucky 38 to give his report.Boone strolls into your office fresh from the field with sand still shaking off of his fatigues and grime covering his skin. He gives you a salute and you prepare yourself for bad news as he only does that when in trouble. [Boone, welcome back. I’m glad to see you alive and well. What’s the story about your trip up north? Sit down and have some water, you must be exhausted.]You grab a bottle of cold purified water from the fridge recently moved into your office. A little excessive but something about responsibility and perks. “Thank you, Director.”Boone grabs the bottle and drains it in one go. [Don’t call me Director, Craig. You’re one of my oldest friends.]Boone nods as he finishes the water and places the empty bottle on the floor next to him. “We crossed the dam with documentation from Secretary Cassidy, if we ran into Legion or NCR. The terrain was rough as hell but those new vehicles made quick work of it. I didn’t know where Legion land started or ended but we were far from civilization.”He takes out a small road atlas with a series of marks with a grease pencil all along the river. He turns it around and begins tracing his path. “We couldn’t travel right along the river as the terrain was rough and the river still had some water so we took an old dusted trail that ran parallel to the glorified creek.”
He points to a little point on the map circled with graphite. “Trumbull had what we thought was a raider group squatting there with a group of captives. They had no markings or any Legion identifiers so we went in at night and killed most of the combatants while the rest fled into the dark. The captives didn’t speak English but we gave them some supplies and told them to follow the river here. Ortiz wanted to escort them back but the mission wasn’t done and I wanted to find the blockage.”[I’m assuming Trumbull wasn’t the answer?]Craig rubs his chin, further smearing his grime around. “There was a dam there, but it was basically destroyed. Some of the wreckage was blocking the water, but it shouldn’t have been enough at normal water levels.”You gesture for him to continue and he points at a point further down the river. A little speck on the map called Grand Canyon Village.[That’s far in Legion land, Boone.]“I know, but I had to know. Ortiz and I snuck in while the rest of the squad stayed behind to watch the vehicles. We found a new dam being built right on the river, with further expansion on farms all through the Tusayan Valley. Pretty fertile ground.”[It sounds like it was a pretty successful mission then.]Boone leans back from the map and crosses his arms.“We had to pass by Trumbull on our way back to Vegas. The Legion was there in force and they found their slaves. Do you know the punishment for a failed escape?”You nod. You unfortunately do know the punishment. “Most of them were still alive on those fucking crosses. We put them out of their misery, but got caught in the process. We spent 72 hours straight in a running gunfight with Legion motorized patrols until they realized we were entering NVD territory and pulled off.”You exhale slowly and tent your fingers over your face. You have a lot of sway with Caesar and with the favor you’re about to do for him…[You completed your mission and you didn’t do anything I wouldn’t have. We know why the water level is so low and now I can handle it diplomatically. Return to your men and we will quickly move on from this.]“I don’t want to take your forgiveness for granted, but the longer we work with the Legion the more we are enabling them. But thank you, Six.”He salutes again and heads back out into the desert. You’re sure you’ll be hearing from the Legion consulate but if you can kill Vulpes, you should stay in Edward’s good graces.
>>6325540Well we're about to stick it to them where it likely hurts in the long run. That is unless we can win them over or something else can be changed. The only thing I can really think of is if we get proof that he's on Caesar's side and we can turn it on the other guy.I wonder if we will end up doing an et tu Courier.
>>6325226I feel like metallurgy and chemical engineering (with a specialty in pharmaceuticals) are going to cover the bulk of everything we want to accomplish. Like Chomps said, everybody needs quality metal, and the great thing about industrial chemical plants is that they are extremely versatile in what they can produce. Back in the world wars era we had big name chemical companies churning out both chemical weaponry and pharmaceuticals for first aid. A strong chemical industry would open many doors for us both financially and technologically.Also, we need to be sure we get the guys who made the airplane on our payroll and have Mr. New Vegas talk about it. We need to set a visible precedent that technological advancement is a means of obtaining fortune and fame within the NVD.Also also, let's set up a large shipment of booze, chems, and playing cards for the cholera quarantine, so they don't feel completely cheated out of the festivities.
>>6325257well, young Ted has my excuses then, and you tooa semi obvious answer is... drumroll... more power! with lots of water and lots of power we can make heavy water and good steelwith heavy water, good steel, natural uranium and some repurposed securitron "heads" for control units we can make and export small, fully automated CANDU-ish reactors (they don't need enriched uranium to function) and live like kings off making (and later reprocessing) fuel barssure, they'll have a positive void coefficient but I think they can be sited in already heavily irradiated areas so if they happen to blow it won't be no biggie
>>6325540well, the thing with Vulpes takes on a whole new hue now, doesn't it
>>6325600>on our payrollnahtoss a gov't contract their way, make them into celebrities, sureI don't want them working exclusively for the state, that's how innovation dies
>>6323025>>6323344I'm getting these vibes
>>6325437>is the cost of the item itself and how much is shippingAside from the more high-tech imports, the price is incredibly dependent on transportation. You're exactly right, if it moves by train, it comes to Barstow and then on foot (or hoof) to the Mojave and then mostly to Freeside/Vegas.When you consider things like milling machines or other heavy machinery, it's almost a prohibitive cost.
>>6325687Hm. We have a couple of trucks - we can't use them to move more than a small fraction of trade volume but if we need to move bulky objects, can we not arrange to meet Republic Rail at Barstow and collect it ourselves to cut shipping costs?All the more reason to rehabilitate the rail line. Even if we don't have any functional trains right now, California can ship in to us.
>>6325743If we don't think we will end up at war with NCR a trail rout to them would help. At I assume the cost of being more influenced by the NCR.
>>6325748There's nothing indicating a war with the NCR in the forseeable future, especially if Kimball falls from power. Our whole position here is about leveraging both major powers to bootstrap our development and the NCR is our largest economic partner and trade market - for that reason, I'd like to be able to run trains to the Legion markets as well in the future (we would need to construct a line from scratch to Kingman and rehabilitate the trackage to Flagstaff and Phoenix, which would be a real megaproject and not viable for a long while) but, for now, the line to Barstow is the easiest project for the largest benefit. If we're to use said position to develop our economy to its greateat potential, establishing these links is vital and managing competing influences is just something that comes with it.
Aight bois. I finally caught up.Things we should build to export and boost domestic supply.>Leather: armor, gloves, aprons, boots, aka work gear and PPE. It'll cut down on injuries and improve quality of life. Get the hides from the ranches and do "luxury" ones from the geckos. >Chemicals: if we Crack coal to produce fertilizer from low grade coal. That will increase crop yields, more pharmaceuticals like a lot more we can easily mass sell it to the legion... theyre in a large war, industrial chemicals (acetone, rubbing alcohol, lubricants, ect.)Metallurgy: mine everything, blast furnaces fed with coal, make steel, copper, titanium, zinc, lithium, ect.Heavy industry: make large tractors, diggers, mining equipment, trucks, (we can use corn, potatoes, linseed, canola, biodiesel and ethanol as fuel source). Get the train up and running. With all our electricity we can just electrify the rail. Then we export medicine, fertilizer, food, heavy equipment, and leather goods.We should focus on one industry at a time get it so it's making a ton of money then jump onto the next. Step 1. Pharmaceuticals export to the legion and NCR if they need it too.Step 2. Start mining.Step 3. Build a blast furnace make steel.Step 4. Start making high quality heavy equipment for mining and transport.Step 5. Build out our leather making capabilities since the herds should be built up by then. Start a luxury gecko brand. Step 6. Start broadcasting about the leather and luxury brands. Get the casinos to all get luxury gecko brand red vests for their workers. Get our NCR investors to get some too. Start a new fad. Basically Start a marketing and advertising campaign. Broadcast about us having 0 taxes and other benefits into the NCR. Other ideas: I think we should start buying slaves from the legion and freeing them and incorporating them into the NVD. We want to help push the NCR onto the back foot and be the good guy a free people from the legion. (Will also allow us to head hunt some high skilled people too)
>>6325879I believe we already are producing and exporting various leather goods. How are we going to make fertiliser from coal though? While coal liquefaction will be very useful for chemical feedstock and synthetic fuel, it doesn't contain any of the key ingredients for fertiliser since it's just hydrocarbons. Fertiliser is a high priority when we have the ability to synthesise it - we don't need anything special to manufacture nitrates but will need to import phosphate from the Legion for phosphorus fertiliser. If we get round to collecting and treating sewage, we can also use the (treated!) sludge as fertiliser.The issue with doing things one sector at a time is that a lot of these feed into each other and neglecting a sector until we've finished another could come back to bite us if it's an important one. We'll need to have a few irons in the fire to keep things progressing across the board.Speaking of trains, does anyone have a count on the number of locomotives we have available to us to restore to running condition? I can recall at least five around the place, assuming one of them is the one the NCR was using and we still need to order in parts for. I think we'd be better off converting them to pantograph operation in the long term but stringing up catenary wire over the whole network would be very expensive and the line beyond our borders won't be electrified.Ah shit, I've just realised that to connect to the southwest, we'd need to not just pull the track from the dirt but also reconstruct the Crescent Canyon bridge. That'll be fun.While buying and emancipating slaves has its uses and is an interesting notion, basically all of them will be uneducated tribals. It could have its uses, but also bring some practical and political headaches.
>>6325912Coal slime fertilizer: Some methods use coal slime, a byproduct, as a base for silicon fertilizers to improve soil health and reduce heavy metals.The coal to fertilizer process involves either gasification to create ammonia and urea or biological/mechanical processing to produce organic fertilizers from leonardite or other coal typesOne gets us Urea and the other improves soil health. Mind you this is for LOW Quality coal only. (Aka usually a waste product)The legion guy Dead Sea said the legion always desperately needs armor and weapons. I know our stance is not to sell weapons... but we should be able to sell tons of Leather armor easily. But I more mean the luxury gecko brand and work gear. We so far aren't making any of that.... and we know all farm hands need a good pair of gloves, boots, and assless chaps.
>>6325954I see where you're coming from. The coal -> ammonia route did fall out of favour for a reason though, we'd be better off using the syngas to produce hydrogen for the Haber process or using it elsewhere and just electrolysing our infinite water with our excess of power.We'll always have plenty of waste coal in the form of culm, waste slurry, coal dust and sub-metallurgical grade coal (coal seams are not homogenous) to huck into the gasifier.
>>6325879>blast furnacewhy don't we do electrical arc furnace? much higher temps, much more controllable
>>6325912tribals would be good at scavenging, crafting, possibly agriculturealso, we could train some of them and send them back into Legion lands to prepare a slave revolt
>>6325912>I believe we already are producing and exporting various leather goods.Not exactly. Right now we are producing leather armor from the two leather shops we expanded and bought, and we use that leather armor for equip our army. Thanks to that we have cut a small amount of the costs and upkeeps that comes with making military units. In this case i am talking of our infantry units. There is other small entities that produce leather and sell it in the Mojave, but the Directorate is currently the main producer in the Mojave.And we have not really tapped in to it truly. We could produce far more leather, and if we establish the Mojave Hunting Guild we could hunt a lot more across the Mojave.
>>6326008this is another thing tribals/freedmen could be good at btw
>>6326009trueit can provide them jobs, improving/expanding leather shops alongside establishing the Mojave Hunting Guild would be quite beneficial, here a few examples of what it can give beside creating more jobs for the common men : a further reduction of infantry upkeep/cost of unit, possible future opening of the possibility of equipping police with leather armors (irrealistic in the immediate future), utilizes more the overabundant resource of wildlife in the Mojave, makes the region more secure for travelers, farmers and merchants (less dangerous wildlife killing domesticated farm animals or people), creation of more trade goods to sell both to the Mojave economy and outside, possible future opening of hunting tourism., slight improvement of some recruits for military and police, and lastly could help with certain research or entertainment ideas..
>>6325987Electric arc furnaces just heat things up, they don't do pyrometallurgy. Great for recycling scrap but they can't refine metal.
>>6326028we have metric fucktonnes of scrap
>>6326031Indeed we do, but they do different things. If we want to produce virgin steel, we need a blast furnace.
>>6326034but that's just not trueyou can smelt iron ore powder to get refined iron in an arc furnace, then you add whatever it needs to become the steel you want it to be
You’re probably more familiar with the formation of the NCR and its history than most. But the details are lost to time and mixed up in legend. So you’re not sure if Tandi sat down with her advisors and hammered out a legal code for the small settlement of Shady Sands. Also unlike the infant NCR, you don’t have decades to develop naturally. You need to surpass both of your superpower neighbors much sooner than the Legion or the Republic grew to their sizes. This is one of the biggest advantages to your centralized government, but also one of the most serious responsibilities. The legal code you create now will be the basis for decades because if it’s not, something horrible has gone wrong. In the few months Ulysses has been around, the two of you have become nearly inseparable. Whether it’s training together, eating together or maintaining equipment and weaponry, the two of you talk about anything and everything. When you mentioned your plans to bring the council together for a legal code, Ulysses was all too happy to give his two caps. Unsurprisingly, he was full of historical precedence for laws and how they impacted their respective nations. He spoke of the Code of Hammurabi, the Chinese Legalistic System and even the Old Testament found in the Christian Bible. Also unsurprising was his favoring of strict and harsh punishments for many crimes ranging from murder and rape to robbery and arson. Ulysses believes that human nature is nasty and violent and therefore needs the threat and enforcement of firm discipline to keep people in line. Even if he is disillusioned with his former master, Ulysses still believes the Legion way of life is preferable to the lax and corrupt system in the NCR. His advice follows you into the council meeting with your Secretaries. This may be one of the last meetings with The King and Nash before they assume their Governorships after the year anniversary. As is tradition, you arrive last with Ulysses in tow. The council is in the usual conference room, making small talk and sharing the news about the increased budget next month. [Good afternoon, everyone. As usual, thank you for coming and I look forward to this very important meeting. Before we begin, I want to introduce Ulysses. Some of you may have seen him around, and that’s because I have chosen him to be my Deputy Director. I trust this man with my life and in time, I am sure you’ll trust him as much as me. He’ll run things when I'm away, incapacitated or if I die.]You stop and wait to see if anyone objects, but instead they’re relieved and take turns to congratulate Ulysses. No one looks happier than Cass. [We have an important job in front of us, perhaps the most important we’ll do as a council. We’re going to decide upon a broad legal code for the New Vegas Directorate which will be applied across the entire region. No longer will justice be served differently from one town to the next.]
Once again, the council seems very pleased to finally be able to cross this one off the list. Farkas: That’s great! Freeside has been under the rule of moral thugs who take the law into their own hands for far too long. I welcome a compassionate criminal code for the NVD. King: Hold on there sister, my boys keep the peace in Freeside. You don’t know how nasty those thugs can be. You knew this was going to be the most contentious debate yet but you’ll be damned if you lose control. [I understand there will be differing opinions, but we will be civil here. Now, let’s talk about the most severe crimes first. Rape and murder.]Ulysses: Execution for clear cases of rape, no exceptions. Same for murder, no exceptions. Raul: Si, that’s good to me. Cass: Yeah, that fits the crime.Farkas: Wait! Do we really want to build our society on capital punishment? We have the opportunity to do something truly different here!Gunderson: Sorry Julie, but this is pretty unanimous. If you do the worst thing to people, you deserve the worst done to you.Julie wants to respond but knows she’s vastly outnumbered and instead gives you pleading eyes. Farkas: Please think about it, Director. This is not a decision to be taken lightly.[Of course, that’s why we’re doing this. Next up are less-serious but still important crimes to decide upon. Theft, assault and manslaughter.]Ulysses: Execution, same as before. A society should not have to care for those who willingly break its laws.Lewis: Forced labor, maybe? A few years building roads and breaking rock would rehabilitate them just fine. Garret: Not to mention the costs saved for construction. I agree with Lewis, that should be forced labor for, say, five years?Cass: It’s not too different from what the NCR does, so that’s good right? We shouldn’t just apply a broad sentence for everyone though, it should depend on the crime and circumstances. Farkas: I would agree with that! More important than this legal code are the judges that will carry out the sentencing. A man who steals a loaf of bread to keep himself from starving should not be sentenced to half a decade of hard labor. Kreger: You could always form Penal Companies. They’re not too dependable in combat but they’ll clear a minefield just fine. The cabinet looks over at your Defense Secretary, trying to decide if he’s joking or not. Sarah: I believe we should try to rehabilitate as many people as possible, everyone deserves a second chance! Lewis: Which they’ll get, in the mines!Garrett: What about the white-collar crimes such as smuggling, tax evasion, defrauding? [I would say that doesn’t deserve execution or years of hard labor. Prison time and a fine, right?]Most of the council agrees, though you’re sure the few hardliners would like something a little more public and humiliating.
[Now, things that may break local laws such as littering or dumping waste in public spaces. Fighting and other public disturbances.]King: We usually just issue fines for those sorts of scuffles, nothing worth calling Johnny Law for. Garrett: I've seen The Kings and the NVPD extract all sorts of fees. It seems like protection money more than anything…King: It isn’t cheap running a police force or a gang, and don’t forget about all the good I do for the neighborhood. You haven’t had issues with any bad customers, have you?Francine doesn’t bother responding but she raises a good point. [Laws and justice are both unequal across the entirety of the Mojave, which is why we’re here. Before I put down how I want the criminal code, are there any more suggestions or thoughts?]Nash: There should be a difference between a town law broken and a Directorate law broken. Ulysses: The old United States had something similar. While the NVD should always have ultimate authority, I agree that maybe these governors should have some freedom to enforce rules. Garrett: We’re going to need to find places to put these people and hire guards. Almost every settlement has a small sheriffs office with old cells and Freeside has a much larger jail but they’ll need renovated and upkept.Farkas: Don’t forget the judges! We need impartial men and women who will be able to issue rulings fairly!Kreger: Any crime done against the NVD, even if that means stealing a pack of smokes from the Department of Agriculture, should be judged harshly and have a minimum sentence. Ulysses; Agreed. The citizenry needs to understand the importance and power of the Directorate. Treason is punishable by death. Kreger nods in agreement. No surprise there. [Secretary Haversam, any input? You’ve been quiet.]Chris: This isn’t really my expertise. I think people shouldn’t have to be scared and if that means being tough on criminals, they shouldn’t have committed the crimes, right? You wish Arcade was here, he probably would have given you the best perspective of everyone. But that’s why you’re the boss, you make the decisions. Ulysses told you that a nation is its laws. What will yours look like? A mirror of the old United States’ robust penal code, similar to the NCR’s? Or will you punish all crime harshly leading to an orderly if constrained society? Or will you remember the lessons Joshua taught you about the rule of God and how it kept people for millennia? And there’s always the possibility of breaking the mold like you’ve done before, and creating a completely new system without outside influence.
>Please rank crimes under their severity and punishment. I am including an example below. Feel free to include other Capitol Punishment: Execution without unjust suffering>Treason against NVD>Murder>Rape>Membership in raider group who conducts aforementioned crimesHard Labor: Any type of manual labor in service of the government for a series of time >Manslaughter >Theft over a certain value >Attempted murder >Serious assault >Any theft or defrauding of NVD>Smuggling >Assault or violence against any member of NVD government Incarceration Time: Amount of time in a local or NVD correctional facility>Patty Theft>Minor Assault>Fraud >Tax Evasion >Any attempts at minor crimes Fines: A payment to be extracted from the individual in property or income>Dumping waste in public spaces>Fighting/Public disturbances
>>6326115Time for us to wade into the social construction of crime....... Before I give a full answer, I just wanna say that if we are already tacitly accepting ideas like 'white collar' and 'blue collar' crime, we are following in footsteps that have already headed over a cliff, at least in my opinion. I don't think we should tell rich people that, as long as they harm people in a way that looks more respectable, they should suffer fewer consequences - it encourages corruption, and sleazy people rise to the top, it just reinforces a bad class system that isn't aligned with the No Gods No Masters ethos. Execution: >Treason >Murder >Rape>Human trafficking or slave trading >Membership in raider groups that do the above Hard labor for three years, WITH rehabilitation programming to transition ex-cons into decent paying civil service/public works>Theft or property crime over 1500 caps in value >Tax evasion or fraud over 1500 caps >Criminal racketeering >Unlawful production of explosives, biological agents, or chemical weapons capable of taking more than 30 lives at a time (folks should be able to make and sell grenades to prospectors or mercs, but we can't let just anyone make bombs big enough to wipe city blocks) >Smuggling of product with a value over 1000 caps >Aggravated/serious assault, unarmed or otherwise >Any criminal action leveled against NVD property or personnel Incarceration for four years, with rehab, including transition to private companies that opt in with the option to hire inmates two years prior to their release (at the same pay as free workers, no prison slavery thanks), to make the transition from incarcerated employee to free easier. >Theft, smuggling, property crime, etc below the above cap levels>Petty assault>Stalking >Perjury Fines, unpaid fines escalate to a maximum of one month incarcerated, with an assigned caseworker for that time to develop a plan for improvement>Littering >Public indecency/disturbances >Unlicensed selling of goods, where such licensing is required And I don't think we should criminalize sex work, gambling, or any drugs. This is Sin City, after all, and it will only cost us money and piss people off. Instead we can throw Farkas a bone by having HHS develop a system of clinics funded with a portion of their local taxes, a portion of HHS budget, and private donations (which can be reported as a tax write-off). These clinics should be staffed by former addicts and prostitutes that have left the business or recovered, as they often struggle for other work, and provide mental health support and resources for those wanting to make a change. IRL, decriminalizing drugs regionally has backfired, as addicts flocked to those places and overwhelmed them, whereas places that do so nationally have seen significant improvements over a relatively short time. So this should be policy for the entire NVD.
>>6326129And instead of felony/misdemeanor, we just categorize these as Class 1, 2, 3, and 4, with 1 being the worst, and 4 being fines. Class 2 criminals should have restrictions on their ability to purchase or own more than one or two weapons, and have a yearly check in with the NVD penal system for monitoring. I don't think we should fully revoke anyone's rights to weapons in the wasteland, and while I like the idea of exile or banishment as a punishment, I think those will have to be enforced at a local level by governors. Keeping track of people across the whole Mojave and databasing that info, making all authorities aware, etc, it's just not technologically or logistically feasible. My last suggestion is that we reach out to the Followers about helping to draft local/regional legal codes for different governorships. Local laws should be softer, should be tailored to the community's needs, and the Followers have as much insight into this stuff as Ulysses if not more. And? They'd be really glad to help, and we can expect them to produce good results. Governors get final veto and review of course, but this will save us money pushing pencils and sourcing legal experts. Followers should maybe be invited to put together an advisory committee to help us establish rules for our penal system regarding the selection and appointment of judges, lawyers, trials, etc.
>>6326133>>6326129Good point on the distinction between “white collar and blue collar” crime. What can I say, we live in a society.
>>6326036No, they can't. They can produce steel from iron refined in other ways, but they can't process iron ore directly, which is what I was meaning. Though it is possible we could use an induction furnace to save on coke.https://www.servicesteel.org/resources/electric-arc-furnace-vs-blast-furnaceSpeaking on an arc furnace though, I bet the Nucor steel mill in Kingman would have one we could "borrow" aka dismantle, steal, refurbish and reassemble closer to us. If the mill is still there IOTL, that is.>>6326115I'll leave in depth discussion of the legal code to other people but I would like to share a couple of thoughts.Bribery and corruption must be included in this, either in the second or third tier depending on nature and magnitude. We cannot tolerate this behaviour, especially at public office level.Also, could we make use of low-level community punishments? A day or two in the stocks or fixing what you broke and then some may be a more effective deterrent for bad-neighbour behaviour like vandalism, certain petty thefts, public drunkenness and being a dodgy merchant than fines etc. Not sure about this one.
>>6326115Capitol Punishment: Execution without unjust suffering>Treason against NVD>Murder>Rape>Slaving>Membership in raider group who conducts the above crimes>Grand theft (very high value)>Recidivism of a lesser crimeI figure we give them a bottle of booze/the chem of their choice and shoot them when they're done with it. The grace drink can be skipped if there's any particular need to do so.Hard Labor: Any type of manual labor in service of the government for a series of time>Manslaughter>Theft above petty but below grand theft >Attempted murder >Serious assault >Any theft or defrauding of NVD>Smuggling>Assault or violence against any member of NVD government Recidivism at this level should be kicked up to capitol punishment, unless a judge deems there to be good reason not to do so given the circumstances.Incarceration Time: Amount of time in a local or NVD correctional facility>Petty Theft>Minor Assault>Fraud >Tax Evasion >Any attempts at minor crimes Recidivism at this level should instantly be kicked up to hard labor. We don't want our prisons turning into bed and breakfasts for those who don't want to work properly.Fines: A payment to be extracted from the individual in property or income>Dumping waste in public spaces>Fighting/Public disturbances>Unlicensed sales where such licenses are requiredTossing this out there, what if we adjusted fines based on the perpetrator's income? Make it to where it's X% of their value so that it'll always hurt even if it's a wealthy individual doing it. A brahmin baron will probably respect the laws more if an infraction would cost them 70,000 caps.There should still be a staunch floor though so people can't weasel their way out of things by pleading that they don't have money.>>6326129I disagree with the heavy emphasis on rehabilitation. Rehabilitation is a good thing to have but a terrible thing to institutionalize; the criminal code needs to be the stick that people are afraid of, not a carrot that gets them off easy if they promise to do better.What we can do is arrange for the Followers to meet with people as they get out of jail and let them love bomb the ex-cons and arrange employment (and in the future perhaps temporary housing) to get them back on their feet without having to fall back into crime. That way they were given a fair chance to rejoin society properly and any failure to do so can be unambiguously laid at their feet.I do agree with the system of clinics though; getting a Followers clinic set up in every settlement can be a nice simple initiative to get our new governors' feet wet.
>>6326145>Bribery and corruption must be included in this, either in the second or third tier depending on nature and magnitude.Tier one. Corruption is treason against the state. Letting corruption fester is what destroys a country and subverts the rule of law.
>>6326184I respect our disagreement of opinion. To be expound on my end, I think the wasteland is dangerous enough and if we want to maximize our base of laborers, consumers, and fighters, we should do what we can to keep our state apparatus from being one more major hazard for anyone that isn't truly an enemy. Big philosophical debate to be had on this stuff under the best circumstances, even headier one when you're nation building in a radioactive world full of monsters, so don't wanna get too far into it. But basically, we ought to take a real stab at retaining as many workers as we can, and it doesn't hurt to be seen as more merciful than the Legion, and equitable in our toughness than the NCR (who punish their poor more strictly than the rich because their society relies on an underclass, it's baked in). I also will say that, for me when I am voting and considering options in this QST, I personally am thinking a lot about what it means to be a courier that chose No Gods No Masters. Does he want that for the whole Mojave, as a libertarian or even anarchist, or was it a means to an end, and he ultimately just wants what House wanted for himself. Even while we centralize government and economic power, I am leaning towards a justice system that is less invasive, more community focused, and aimed at balancing a reduction in crime with a retention of labor. If we take on a harsher system, especially one that's enforced at a scale no one in the Mojave is used to, we could potentially seed rebellion or struggle diplomatically. In a world like the wasteland, criminals and politicians may decide that their response to authoritarianism should be heavy armament and violence before submission or cooperation. Of course, you're right that if we have too light a touch, criminality could flourish in the wild West and create big problems down the line.
>>6326184>>6326115>support
>>6326185Corruption should be punished and indeed punished harshly up to and including execution for particularly egregious instances or those with major consequence for others but going straight to treason and murder for even minor instances of petty impropriety is a level of disproportionate and unnecessary bloodthirst I will not support. We're trying to build a better Mojave, not make the state the biggest enemy of its own people.
Public Examples: Execution involving suffering during the course of the act itself, in full-view of the public>Crimes against Children>Slave-Trade/Human-Trafficking>Cannibalism>Desecration of Corpses, Burial Grounds, Monuments, & Nature Reserves>RapeCapitol Punishment: Execution without unjust suffering>Treason against NVD>MurderHard Labor: Any type of manual labor in service of the government for a series of time>Manslaughter>Theft over a Certain Value>Attempted Murder>Any Theft or Defrauding of NVD>Smuggling>False Accusations of Rape/Murder>Usury>Membership in Raider Groups>Cattle/Livestock Rustling>(Domestic/Tame) Animal CrueltyIncarceration Time: Amount of time in a local or NVD correctional facility>Petty Theft>Fraud>Assault or Violence against any Member of NVD Government>Serious Assault>Any Attempts at Minor CrimesFines: A payment to be extracted from the individual in property or income>Dumping waste in Public Spaces>Fighting/Public Disturbances/Minor Assault>Tax EvasionNo Penalty:>Mutually Agreed-Upon Fights/Duels>Vigilante Justice with Credible Evidence
No one is above the law, not even the enforcers thereof. What's more, vigilantism is the white-bloodcell of a society.>>6326207Change Treason to Public Execution, actually, along with Hard Labor for Armed Robbery, & Bribery/Bribe-Taking in the Public Execution spot.
>>6326207>>6326210One last change:False Accusations & Adultery should result in Exile/Banishment/Outlawry from the entire territory for a year at least, & poisoning wells/water sources should be punished with public executions.
>>6326215Adultery???? Brother.... Even House wasn't in the business of legislating peoples sex lives...
>>6326207I like your suggestion of adding cannibalism to death by execution, so want to add it to my vote here >>6326129But I think if we make executions a spectacle we are taking a hit to our diplomacy and politics for no particular gain. I also think you should reconsider the allowance of vigilantism - people will fabricate evidence if it can exonerate them, and while we could investigate that evidence, it would end up costing more police resources than just enforcing the laws ourselves, especially because so many people will feel incentivized to commit murders with the possibility of getting away with it. Could just create more crime instead of less. Sad to see so many votes that assert stealing a wage from a worker is less of a problem than stealing a product off a shelf... But I suppose democracy will prevail at the expense of imagination. As the man said, we live in a society.
>>6326217If the state is involved in the process of marriage, then the state must take steps to ensure that marriage itself is not defrauded.
>>6326197>minor instances of petty improprietyIf it is genuinely just that then it can be tier 2 or 3 (so long as they are stripped of power permanently), but you need to remember that we are the major powers in a highly-centralized nation. The nation is counting on us to act honestly and not abuse the substantial power we hold over the people, and we need to be held to standards that reflect that. Anything that goes beyond "minor instances" should be treated as tier 1.>>6326207>Execution involving suffering during the course of the act itself, in full-view of the publicNo dude. That's too far.>usury>adultery>desecration tier 1I... what? No, you need to cool your jets a bit, anon.I do agree with punishing false accusations though. A false accusation should share the punishment that the accused crime would face, with the caveat that it must be firmly proven that the accuser knew the accusation was false.>>6326224>If the state is involved in the process of marriage, then the state must take steps to ensure that marriage itself is not defrauded.So let's not be involved with the process of marriage. Done.
While I at the moment don’t have the time too write up my full proposed legal code, I’d like to say I think we’re all overlooking another value able form of punishment that doesn’t require the expense involved in incarceration but isn’t quite as severe as capital punishment. >corporal punishmentIn my mind basically every crime that doesn’t deserve a death sentence could be treated with a corporal punishment that would bring about a quicker reform process then forced labor, fines or confinement. Steal something >get flogged Drunk and disorderly >get flogged Smuggling, tax evasion, or other financial crimes >get flogged Do it publicly and swiftly following any conviction and I think we’d see a rapid decrease in criminal behavior. Just throwing it out there as an opinion for the moment but I do think it certainly has a place in our justice system.
>>6326224Vulpes is that you???
>>6326115>>6326114>Capitol PunishmentTreason against NVDMurderRapeReturning to the old ways after being given a '2nd chance'Somebody who has committed 'hard labor' tier crimes atleast 3 times within there life without justifiable defense.Defrauding of NVD>Hard Labor: Any type of manual labor in service of the government for a series of time everything fucking else
Aight. Solutions for current issues and make lots of money.We have wood and wood scraps. Let's make industrial glue. And make MDF and Particle board. This should help with our building supplies issue.Let's get the a the scrap recycler up and running. Start turning that into low grade steel and iron.We can do clay but transporting it atm will be an issue... so im skipping it for now.We can do steel and iron framed buildings (just dont build too high). With particle board and MDF for interior and siding. With corrugated metal on the outside.So we need to setup a stamping facility or one with rollers. We can cast the angle iron and brackets. Roll the scrap into sheets.We have 161k to spend. I say we invest 100k into these endeavors buildings should get cheaper and fixes some of our issues.Second phase is:5 more leather armor shops and 1 PPE shop for leather. Get more mines opened. Two of these being the copper and coal mines.Third phase:Get a blast furnace up and running to get virgin steel being produced. 4th phase:Heavy industry and manufacturing with new virgin steel. Also expand pharmaceuticals to the nth degree and start exporting. Expand industrial chemicals also.
>>6326253Reminder that we still haven't funded the 75k Anniversary Celebration.
>>6326188I'm sort of leaning towards letting the public have a say in thislet's not start things off with a penal code, but with constitutional debate
>>6326253>We can do clay but transporting it atm will be an issueI am sorry but this is bullshitthe clay itself can be used to make bricks, the bricks made into a road to ship more clay/bricks to where they are neededit's a self-solving problem
>>6326145yes I was wrong, it seems you need to reduce the iron first in a bloomery or similar>I bet the Nucor steel mill in Kingman would have one we could "borrow" aka dismantle, steal, refurbish and reassemble closer to us. If the mill is still there IOTL, that is.worth a try. we really do have a lot of scrap
>>6326261Very based proposition, would second that, but I think a lot of anons seem to have a more authoritarian lean on this.
>>6326261>I'm sort of leaning towards letting the public have a say in thisThis is a super good point. We should put a pin in whatever we come up with and run it past the governors to see what they think. They're the ones that are going to be dealing with the consequences, after all.
>>6326290I could take an unofficial consensus and run it by the governors
>>6326291I'd support that.
Happy Halloween btw. Was going to have a Mr New Vegas post in the spirit of the holiday but got too drunk instead This vote will run until Sunday night or so because it’s important, have a spooky night y’all!
>>6326291I'm in on this too, but still glad to iron out a solid draft and make it easier. I beseech you anons... Consider mercy and libertarianism. If we know anything about the Mojave wasteland, we know it is full of criminals - not just out in the desert, but in Freeside, Westside, Goodsprings, Nipton, Jacobstown, and all the fuck over the strip. The legion approach of harsh punishment works because it's a cult of personality and they force women to breed constantly while conquering new tribes, replenishing the numbers they lose to crosses. NCR just lacks the ability to enforce crime it disapproves of and runs on the crime it does approve. I'd rather not half ass either approach and find a third way instead.
>>6326261you do not let the 'public' have a say in this like this, People with educations now a days are fucking retarded. You think a 'good' outcome is gonna come out of people who are both super uneducated AND forced to live in hellish conditions will be productive or good?
>>6326263Qm even said it wasn't worth the cost to ship the bricks due to the weight...And Bricks are extremely brittle... not a good surface for a road... you'd grind it into dust.>>6326256Good point. Maybe we should burn 9 gold bars for 180k. If we fast track the gold mining we can quickly re gain the gold back. In a economy game it is much better to max spend early to regain money quickly on the investment back end.Also the the 75k was said that we'd make money off of that investment. Anons we need to be min maxing the fact we can broadcast into both the NCR and the legion lands. Another note maybe we send a letter to Caesar that he can exile some of his people to the NVD. Instead of just massacring them all. Let's try to brain drain both the NCR and the legion. Espouse to the NCR no taxes safe roads and homesteading opportunities. Espouse to the Legion that we're a sanctuary for slaves and disenfranchised. (2nd one im more questionable on.)
>>6326294That artwork is fucking siiiiick
>>6326184For the most part I agree with the set up here. The only worry would be rehabilitation cost to go with. If we up the penalty for repeat offenders it should keep people in line.>>6326184I agree with make use of the Followers to help rehabilitation. With how most our people that care it would lead to them being a better pick for rehabilitation.>>6326228I think that will work for the Corruption stander.>>6326291It never hurts to get a second opinion.>>6326294Happy Halloween.
>>6326313The gold mine should be set up after this turn. We would mainly need to make sure the people working have a place to live safely and eat. Then have better roads and transport to move things.
>>6326305>I beseech you anons... Consider mercy and libertarianism.Uh, while mercy's still an option (one we're angling toward at that), the libertarianism ship kind of sailed a long time ago. We're a well-intentioned dictatorship attempting to run Enlightened Despotism, and Ulysses already decided to throw in with us on that basis.
>>6326352Fair enough brother, here's hoping the wastelanders find some of these proposals enlightening and not the rallying cry for a terrorist netw- er I mean... Raider gang...
>>6326253We could really do with getting the NV Steel foundry up and running so we can actually forge metal on an industrial scale instead of artisanally in workshops like we're doing now. I believe it has a lot of these casting, rolling and stamping capabilities but it has languished neglected on the todo list despite that.
>>6326309I'm not saying we should leave it at frontier justice but I think at least some degree of culture fit is necessary, since one cannot govern without at least some degree of consent from the governed.What does the average Mojave citizen think about judicial duels, if anything? Do they value money to the degree that it would make sense to have blood price codified into law? That sort of thing.
>>6326313>Qm even said it wasn't worth the cost to ship the bricks due to the weight...but you wouldn't be shipping them, you'd start laying them down at the origin quarry and just go from there>Bricks are extremely brittlethis is some sort of claycrete supermaterialsurely it can be made into passable tiles> If we fast track the gold miningwe should, ASAP, I don't like being poor. Also figure out who's gonna pull security for it and any transports.>>6326357yes to this. yes to any proposal involving steel manufacturewe need it yesterday, for weapons, constructions, rail, you name it it's got steel in it
>>6326184>getting a Followers clinic set up in every settlement can be a nice simple initiative to get our new governors' feet wet.nicewe can follow up with a totally-not-Enclave school?
Gonna slap up an unofficial consensus, based on what I'm seeing. Speak up if you think it's full of shit.Generally something between >>6326129 and >>6326184 for ranking crimes.Capitol punishment is common and expected for tier 1 crimes.Lesser crimes are met with efforts at rehabilitation courtesy of the Followers along with the usual punishment.However, recidivism is dealt with far more severely, perhaps going up an entire tier of punishment.This sound about right?
>>6326432I have some issues"Treason" is extremely vague, "rape" is a function of the alleged victim's mental state at the time of the alleged offense and thus very hard to ascertain, "slavery" is a vague term covering many degrees of exploitive of labor relationsI am against slavery but I would not kill anyone just for "being a slave owner"I would definitely not kill anyone just for rape, although castration or a lobotomy may be in orderI would not kill anyone for just "being a raider", because child soldiers are a reality of this world but that is just me!I also put to you that our fledgling state is not developed enough to effectively prosecute most things that most people would think of as crime so we need to codify frontier justice to some extentthis, in matters of penal codewhat about civil?what about rights, liberties and duties of citizens?
>>6326402Cultural fit doesn't matter, We give people a 2nd chance by coming here if they break it. They get removed or punished harshly imo.the common Mojava citizen probably wonders and thinks about there next meal still at this point and would just kill somebody if they got in the way. We've improved things alot but its still New Vegas and its outskirts.
>>6326432>>6326434I'm also noticing that no one else has much to say about the legality/criminality of hard drugs, prostitution, and gambling. Lot of talk about bribery and murder and tax fraud and theft. Anons should consider that gambling and hard drug addiction both lead people readily to theft and murder. In the game FNV, these things are ostensibly regulated within the Strip, and at least kind of controlled in Freeside. In this QST, the courier is an 'enlightened despot', and we are creating a penal code more or less personally to apply to a bunch of different communities under our sphere of influence. I maintain that we shouldn't criminalize these things at all, and just create guardrails for them to be indulged in safely or escaped from easily (if someone develops a destructive addiction to drugs, sex, or gambling). But how does that square with the rather harsh and violent approach to crime that a lot of anons are favoring? And if we do go with these harsher sentences and penalties for recidivism, but don't include or even regulate drugs/prostitution/gambling, are we prepared for the friction that'll be produced by people having the liberty to pursue these vices, which are sometimes quite dangerous and certainly generate criminal activity in their wake, and yet serious consequences for engaging in that activity? We could be really stepping in some shit here. Realistically, our penal code is going to have more repercussions and fallout for us than dropping that nuke. Bad law is the birthplace of insurrection, and the death bed of economic projects.
>>6326581it's premature anywaywe can sort of enforce public order, of a kind, in New Vegas itself, but not much else
>>6326579>We give people a 2nd chance by coming heremost of the residents are not recent immigrants>Cultural fit doesn't matterbecause you say so?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uaq9924Mas
>>6326581>I'm also noticing that no one else has much to say about the legality/criminality of hard drugs, prostitution, and gambling.It's Sin City. As long as nothing truly exploitative is going on there's no reason to criminalize any of those things. We have access to Addictol, which explicitly cures physical and mental dependence on drugs, prostitution can be regulated to avoid people being put into indentured servitude that's "slavery but technically not", and gambling is just a matter of self-control.We can protect people from being exploited, but we can't protect them from themselves. That way lies tyranny and madness.It's okay to have expectations that people can manage their own affairs without the state needing to be involved.>>6326434Most of this is just stuff that would be hashed out with the development of the code itself. No, being a slave owner won't be a crime yet but slaves won't be allowed in the NVD and enslaving people here will get you killed. Mr. Legion Tycoon should have to leave his slaves at the border if he doesn't want us to free them.As for rape, the general consensus seems to be death, though that's for clear-cut cases. Ambiguity might lead to lighter sentencing to avoid moral recklessness on the NVD's part.>I would not kill anyone for just "being a raider"Consider that raiders are a very real threat to civilization in this setting. This isn't a situation where they're just poor oppressed people, this is a world where they could easily have sacked all of Goodsprings and nobody could have done anything about it.
>>6326581Implying rich people will commit crimes after doing drugs... does not make any logical sense.People have personal agency... we do not need to create a nanny state. People can choose to do drugs or prostitute themselves... if they CHOOSE to kill people we choose to kill them. Simple.
>>6326602>Cultural fit doesn't matterBecause they adapt to the culture already here, The clear ''culture'' here is already far more extreme then elsewhere. And foreigner culture doesn't and should never matter for a nation and its citizens. >We give people a 2nd chance by coming heremost of the residents are not recent immigrantsNow we did have influences prior to this whole autism at the border and nat 1 on Zion.
>>6326604Are we gonna nationalize healthcare and provide addictol readily to people that ask? Does addictol cure gambling addictions. Again, I agree these things shouldn't be criminalized, I said that from the jump. I am just pointing out that if we have draconian policy for property crime and violence, but extremely lax laws for addictive substances and gambling, we might just be creating a conveyor belt to the gallows. >>6326606>Implying rich people will commit crimes after doing drugs... does not make any logical sense Where did I say 'rich people'? Were the Fiends rich? Did the Followers set up their clinic on the Strip or in the slums of Freeside? I said that consuming addictive products - drugs, prostitutes, gambling - can create addicts, and that even if we have a robust rehab system for recovering addicts, if the penal system is overly harsh towards the kinds of crimes committed by addicts, we might be asking for trouble. I don't think this stuff is particularly simple.
>>6326610who's these "they"? the laws will presumably apply to everyone. I meant cultural fit between the laws we will set and the existing culture of the Mojave.
>>6326611>Are we gonna nationalize healthcare No, or at least not in the scope of this discussion. But addictol specifically is something we can take care to ensure is readily available.>I am just pointing out that if we have draconian policy for property crime and violence, but extremely lax laws for addictive substances and gambling, we might just be creating a conveyor belt to the gallows. I understand what you're getting at, but I still think that people can be expected to control themselves when under the influence of drugs. If a guy gets drunk and shoots somebody that's on him, no matter how much he had to drink.People have agency and they are responsible for the things they do with impaired judgment.
>>6326617My brother I am not talking about how people will behave while drunk, or high, or sitting at the card table. I am talking above t how people will behave when they are trying to stave off withdrawal, strapped for cash, and isolated after fucking up their close relationships.
>>6326618we could always provide free drugs
>>6326625Now we are using our imagination!
>>6326625New Vegas: Come for the free drugs, stay for the addictol centers Here’s another idea, get people addicted to free government drugs and turn them to indentured servants
>>6326625Free drugs to those who clean theWaste system.
>>6326618This is the wasteland. People are trying to survive. They're not going to have these #firstworldproblems.
>>6326639Just about every Fallout game either features directly or mentions people that struggle and criminally misbehave because of addiction, so I don't know what you're talking about. People getting hooked on hard drugs or gambling, fucking up their finances, and resorting to crime or violence to make debts or get a fix is in no way unique to the #firstworld, it's famously much worse in countries riddled with poverty or with an unstable government, actually...
>>6326642Uh... not really. Unless youre counting raiders that are jet heads. Which I don't. You're harping about something that literally is a non issue.
>>6326655Yeah really. Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte are addicts you help in order to befriend Julie Farkas in FNV, who laments to you that the Mormon Fort is overwhelmed with people struggling with withdrawals. There are hard drugs laying around all the casinos. In earlier FO games there are crime families producing and trafficking drugs all over slums, it's where Jet comes from. If the QM is having us check the wind for fallout and having anons talk about industrial chemistry in detail, I think it's realistic he will apply a similar realism to drug policy, and it's a canon fact that there are addicts all over the Mojave.
>>6326618That doesn't really change my point. If somebody becomes so impaired that they gamble literally everything they have away, that's on them. Unless they were slipped something way stronger specifically to put them in that state, but that would be a poisoning case.I'll say it again, people should be expected to be able to tend to their own affairs and indulge responsibly. We can't live people's lives for them.
>>6326668Have you ever interacted with an addict in your life, man? I don't know how you don't understand what I'm talking about here. If Jet, for example, is fully legal, people will use it and get *ADDICTED* to it. They might be annoying while they are high, which is what you are singularly focusing on. But probably not violently murderous (though a drug like Psycho is a different story). Maybe they throw up or yell at their kids. Once they have spent all their money on jet, and are getting the shakes, and NEED another hit? That's when they hit their wife because she keeps complaining about not being able to feed the children, since they blew it all on getting high. That's when they steal from a store. That's when they mug someone in an alley. Ever know a gambling addict? You could watch Uncut Gems to get a funny but mostly accurate idea of how it deranges someone into a sack of shit. Or you could look at how bankruptcy has spiked in the U.S. since we lowered restrictions on sports betting and gambling started to proliferate on social media.
>>6326673>uncut gemsPatrician If it helps the conversation here, Raul, Farkas, Kreger, Ulysses and Nash would like to see strict regulations on drugs. Farkas obviously doesn’t want its use criminalized though The families would not be too happy about it though.
>>6326673>If Jet, for example, is fully legal, people will use it and get *ADDICTED* to it.Which is why addictol will be the backbone of preventing that, which has already been mentioned. If they can spend 30 caps or some other reasonably affordable price to get rid of their addiction then it's on them if they end up acting like a strung out lunatic.To be fair under normal circumstances your objections would be valid, but there are decisively mitigating factors in play.
>>6326673Yes tons. I was a security guard. Guess what they all chose that shit. Not my problem if someone makes bad life choices. You sound like a deranged lefty that doesn't realize that people have personal agency. And freedom comes with the freedom of making bad choices. If they choose to go from addict to criminal they get hit with the law stick. Plenty of addicts that don't commit crimes. Also people that do crime in general are a tiny part of the population. So still not worried. And farkas of course is going to help addicts that's kinda their shtick bleeding heart lib type. Tbh seems like youre bringing irl personal stuff into the game. Also as others said we won't produce drugs we just won't prosecute people doing them. We are not here to be morality police or to create a nanny state.
>>6326678We can regulate their quality to ensure that people aren't taking dangerous bathtub jank and ensure that addiction aid is always available. Honestly we don't necessarily need to go hunting down all the bad stuff either; if clean, decent, legal drugs are available people will naturally flock to those instead of taking sketchy stuff of unknown provenance.To be fair though, this is heavily contingent on Addictol functioning like it does in FO4. If there are any caveats that emerge in this more realistic take on the setting then that would necessarily require a more realistic approach to handling the situation.
Okay I’ll say this about Addictol. It eliminates the physical negatives of addiction but the mental addiction pathways are still there. So someone may not have shakes, shivers and what else but he still may have the mental addiction It’s also a pre-war drug and it’s not incredibly common but could be manufactured just like any other pharmaceutical with enough time and effort
>>6326678Yeah actually is helpful to know what some of our guys think, thanks. I figured the families would want all of that stuff flowing freely, but hadn't considered who WOULD want to finally bring real drug reform (let alone gambling or prostitution restrictions) to NV. >>6326679If we can make Addictol free or as close to it as possible, I do think that will mitigate problems caused by a lot of drug use. But I have concerns about gambling and sex addiction, which can't be treated the same way, and can be just as much of a slope to worse crime. My initial pitch on having this stuff be decriminalized revolved around an abundance of clinics because we should just have as holistic and approach as possible to treating people that aren't able to manage their substance use, or game playing, or hooker fucking. Even still, my point about their being harsh punishments on crimes while having lots of gateways to addiction hasn't really been refuted. With a robust clinic system we can minimize that problem as much as possible, but it's kinda fucked that we are making a society where people are welcomed to our paradise of indulgence and partying, but people that party too hard or lose their heads are dealt with so severely, yaknow? I am not gonna keep debating it though, I wanted others to consider that angle as we move towards commitments on these parts of the law, they will or won't, and maybe I am thinking too much into it. >>6326682I just don't think you have very capable reading comprehension skills, anon. How am I proposing a 'nanny state' when I lead this discussion calling for all of these vices to be totally unregulated and decriminalized? When did I say anything about personal agency one way or another? I said that if we make it easy to become addicted, we will have to reckon with the behavior of addicts. Even if plenty of them don't break the law, very, very many of them do, and often violently. I'm not saying that because I want to inject my baggage into this game, I am saying that because it's a recurring feature in the Fallout series, something the courier dealt with multiple times in FNV and we are in the process of dealing with at a massive scale in this game right now. Keep your weird direction-brained grumbling to yourself. If anons are going to write long schpiels about blast furnaces and tax rates to make sure we don't fuck those things up, there's room to talk about the implications of legal drugs and betting, which I'm sure we don't want to fuck up either.
>>6326687>It eliminates the physical negatives of addiction but the mental addiction pathways are still there.Okay, well that's a pretty serious change. I guess we'll have to get in the mud with proper handling and regulation of drugs after all.Fuck.
>>6326691Or just have good clinics/injection sites run by people in recovery all over. It'd be clutch if Addictol was an instant fix, but it being an instant, successful detox still does a LOT of heavy lifting. IRL people avoid rehab because detox is scary and painful and takes a while, and it's expensive, too, if not for the person the state. We are never gonna end addiction, but if we can make the physical aspect that seamless, a very strong mental health apparatus should honestly be damn effective.
>>6326629>>6326631see, now we're getting somewhere>>6326655yes really>>6326697>if clean, decent, legal drugs are available people will naturally flock to those instead of taking sketchy stuff of unknown provenance.\this is true, as far as it goesso I think:Drug manufacturers and sellers are licensed and subject to quality controls. The license renewal fee you can think of as the cost of doing business in NV. The money goes directly to quality control and addiction treatment programs, not passing through the general budget.Prostitution goes the same way - license, health and welfare checks, funding for an anti-human-trafficking agency and health services.Gambling... yeah, it's already pretty much in hand, just divert some of the money we already collect towards addiction treatment and combatting loan sharksthe nicest thing about all this is it's all administrative measures, we don't need to tell people they're not allowed to do certain things
>>6326800I think I support most of this, particularly on the drug manufacturing side. Not sure if we need to have sellers be licensed though, so long as they aren't adulterating the product somehow.>The money goes directly to quality control and addiction treatment programs, not passing through the general budget.Seems fine.>ProstitutionFine with most of this except I'm not sure we need a dedicated anti-trafficking agency at this point. But otherwise, keeping prostitutes in good health is a win-win-win. Diseases spread very easily through in those jobs, so keeping them healthy is a good way of heading off a major vector of infection.>Gambling pretty much in hand alreadyYeah, gambling addiction is more of a personal failure than anything. Not really sure we need addiction treatment for it (except for highly unusual outliers), and combatting loan sharks is probably more effectively done by just outlawing leonine contracts. Loan sharks lose a lot of their pull if their 1000% interest contract will instantly be annulled by a court of law.
>>6326800>>6327034Broadly agree! Though second anon, I would say to the tail end of your post that 1) it's hard to describe, but the addiction to fast cash cook your neural pathways as bad as heroin, and once someone has fallen into real gambling addiction and not just being a regular jackass, actual medical treatment (in the form of therapy and an accountability program, generally) is genuinely needed, not just for outliers. It did not make sense to me until I saw it in person a few times, but it's a genuine self-inflicted mental disorder at a certain point. 2) I think the loan sharks other anon is referring to are already going to be making these arrangements under the table, and enforcing them with thugs instead of court orders, but with that said, I fully agree with outlawing leonine contracts!
>>6326600>we can sort of enforce public order,We are slowly getting there.Right now active law wise there is the - NVPD, which does Strip, Freeside and even NV outskirts. - Sheriffs, in small settlements. These ones are fine but they really should do their job more on the countryside than in the growing small settlements. - Securitrons, where needed- Infantry units, the ones we have do some law and order only if we really need help with it- Militias, this are still probably the same thing as before. Under us but not really with a salary and what not. Thank goddness. We cant pay them anyway. A decent expansion of the NVPD in numbers and the creation of new police departments in the small settlements should provide a good help to law and order. The NVPD could use at least 500 new officers. In the small settlements we could create departments of 100 policemen each. Or bigger ones in case of say Novac. Bittersprings and Nelson need to be resettled properly still so those are not an issue for now.Then there is the wildlife that causes some small disorder too, mainly on roads. But more leather shops and an hunting guild should turn that around for us.Beyond that sanitation and health can worsen in part disorder. But we have already many solutions for those, they just need funding. Like building clinics or bathhouses in settlements that don't have them. Or start the work on the sewers in NV, plus invasive animals disifenstation (giant rats, giant cockroaches).
>>6327083No settlement outside the Vegas metro has more than 2.3k people and in some 100 cops would be a large fraction of the entire population of the town. I don't think we need quite that many police.
>>6327052it's dopamine addiction, same as doomscrolling>>6327085I tend to agree amd would much rather have a sheriff system for the smaller localities.
>>6327182>>6327085The thing is that we have an increase in pop growth in small settlements, and also an increase in crime there. And with more immigrants and investments coming in, that pop and crime are going to increase. Sheriffs already exist in most if not all those settlements, but they don't seem enough. Maybe it doesn't need to be 100 exact policemen, but something should be made. I can't say i feel like i want to expand sheriffs, the NVPD police model seems more effective, even if its still in a raw state and overworked.For the NVPD instead 500 is a much needed number, not one that fully stops the crime but better than being overstretched.
Btw, when are we gonna follow up on the Cassidy wife side plot?Better not leave her waiting.
>>6327232>they don't seem enoughthis sounds like a job for governors
Here's the New Vegas tourism & investment advertisement
>>6327236it is dangerous to her, politically inconvenient for courier and personally satisfying for anons, so I expect it will happen
>>6327239I suppose if we give governors the task to expand their sheriffs ranks, it becomes their task. We would need to give them additional caps for it probably.
>>6327262just pay for deputies, same type of org as volunteer firefighters in small towns
>>6327232If a sheriff isn't enough, get them a few deputies - frontier law enforcement for the frontier. Primm might be large enough to warrant a small regular local PD. Every town should also have a handful of soldiers posted to keep a lid on major incidents, cull wildlife and be a more overt representation of NVD authority.
>>6327318>postednopatrols along the roads, sureintervene when the local baddies get too thick on the ground, suremotherfuckers paid to stand around on the government's dime and wait to get headshot/blownup by anyone smart enough to figure out where the barracks building is? fuck no
>>6327322You know how long the response times are here. If shit goes down, these towns are on their own and we've got enough soldiers to spare a few for garrison. They're not going to sit around and play cards, they'd be patrolling the area and such, just close to the towns as their assigned local force and available at quick notice. Not a lot, a squad or two's worth.Speaking of response times though - bicycle infantry......
>>6327326>If shit goes down, these towns are on their ownyes and?>we've got enough soldiers to spare a few for garrisonno, we don't. an isolated platoon of our frankly undertrained and underequipped military would just be a loot pinata for a determined and moderately large gang. just look how poorly they fared against a bunch of trucker bois WHILE HAVING THE INITIATIVEplus, if they're deployed as small local garrisons, they can't train large unit stuff or combined arms at all which would be disastrous in an actual warNo. I would much rather have a few deputies for police work and a local militia to try and hold the fort until the actual military comes in for heavier stuff.> bicycle infantryit may come to that if we can't get some damn trucks already, yeah
>>6327330Fine, I see your point and cool your jets but I dislike not having some kind of local forces and we should put work into these local militias instead if they're going to fill that hole. See if we can't train them some more into actually useful reserve forces instead of just bunch of untrained yahoos with guns.To fully motorise our armed forces is years away, we need some kind of mobility stopgap and we have no horses and many places without good roads. Even on a truck, it'd still take an hour or two to reach the further flung places from Vegas
>>6327326>>6327330>>6327337We can motorize the bikes very easily with scrap, I would say, can't be more complicated than a shishkabob.
>>6327337> I dislike not having some kind of local forcesso do I. I've been agitating for a militia for quite a long time nowway I would do it is have Bear Team One train some militia trainers, either from the military or civilians with military experience and they can go on and gather militia troops and take them out on patrols on the weekends and teach them how to track an enemy , how to set up an ambush or a counter-ambush, basically how to make an absolute mess of things for an invading force, Viet Cong style, with just light equipment, explosives and exquisite terrain knowledge>mobility stopgapI have been wracking my brains on this, to no avail. maybe it really is bicycles? but we don't have the means to make those in quantity right now, do we?>many places without good roadscan we at least get a brick road from Cottonwood started? please?
Okay while there is a surprising lack of disagreement over the vices discussion, there's enough where I don't want to rule one way or another so we will punt the discussion until later. This will also allow you guys to see how the rest of the laws are accepted and applied in the NVD.You will have multiple opportunities to adjust this in the future and if you want any law added, can just put that in "other" actions as you are the sole arbitrator. Surprising lack of public punishment desu. For now, any edits will be in wording and happy to make them but this will be legal code unless changed in turnsTier One Capitol Punishment: Execution without unjust suffering>Treason against NVD>Murder>Rape (Beyond Doubt)>Slaving/Human Trafficking due to outlawing in NVD>Membership in raider group who conducts Tier 1 Crimes>Grand theft (very high value)>Cannibalism>Multiple instances of recidivism of tier 2 crime, three strikes?Tier 2 Hard Labor: Any type of manual labor in service of the government for a series of time>Manslaughter>Theft above petty but below grand theft>Attempted murder>Serious assault>Any theft or defrauding of NVD>Outrageous corruption that damages NVD capability>Smuggling>Assault or violence against any member of NVD governmentTier 3 Incarceration Time: Amount of time in a local or NVD correctional facility>Petty Theft>Minor Assault>Fraud>Tax Evasion>Perjury>Any attempts at minor crimesFines: A payment to be extracted from the individual in property or income>Dumping waste in public spaces>Fighting/Public disturbances>Unlicensed sales where such licenses are required
>>6327357sorry, but I disagree with grand theft, rape and treason being capital offensesrape should be punished by castration, "treason" doesn't mean anything, grand theft is just theft from the rich and I don't think the rich should enjoy extra legal protectionguilt by association should also not be a thing at all because, again, child soldiersI really don't understand why you are so eager to push this btw
>>6327357Yeah I still feel we are fucking up big time establishing it into law that financial crimes aren't really bad in our eyes. 'Grand Theft' gets you EXECUTED. What's a 'very high value'? Let's assume it's the NVD equivalent of one million dollars. Tax evasion and fraud are crimes which frequently, in some places TYPICALLY, occur to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. We are incentivizing business interests to financialize our economy while we're trying to establish industry. We are allowing rich thugs to victimize an underclass we are creating. NCR tourists sure won't be surprised to see us pulling the same bullshit. No Gods, Yes Masters.
>>6327345Without a supply of vehicles or a good train network, our options for tactical mobility are horses, bicycles or motorbikes. Horses are obviously out and motorbikes are doable but much more complex and need either fuel or a power source, which leaves bicycles. They've been employed effectively by many militaries in the past and a bicycle is fairly simple to build in a workshop though rubber would be an issue. Whatever we do, production would be slow and they'd have to trickle in one squad at a time.While I agree on road repairs, why bricks? Much of the pre-War asphalt is still in place, just full of potholes and cracks. I feel like it'd be much easier and cheaper to fill cracks and holes with concrete since we can mix and pour concrete easily and in bulk rather than having to handmake, lay and cement in a bajillion bricks (paving a two-lane brick road from scratch from Cottonwood to the ourskirts of Vegas at Henderson would need over 30 million bricks) and tear up good asphalt to fit them.
>>6327372>we can mix and pour concrete easilywe don't have the means to transport it in slurry form though. no way to carry water in the large quantities needed, even>paving a two-lane brick road from scratch from Cottonwood to the ourskirts of Vegas at Henderson would need over 30 million bricksI thank you, sincerely, for doing the math so I don't have to. What size bricks would those be? because I was thinking of roman style 12x12x3 inch paving bricksobviously we'd just leave sections of road that are still good in place, and obviously we'd start with a one lane road>and cement inno need... just lay them down on a properly flat and hard-packed surface
>>6327357I generally agree with this.I support treason being a capital offense. We shouldn't let those that willingly compromise/infiltrate/undermine the Directorate or organize mass agitations against it (either as foreign agents or funded by foreign entities) get away with just a metaphorical slap on the wrist.Rape is pretty bad and should at least be lifetime sentence of hard labor if not death.Grand theft having such an extreme punishment is the only one I have mixed feelings about.>>6326687I was a bit hesitant to throw my hat in the ring and vote a certain way, but this is enough to convince me to support regulations against drugs.>>6326419>we can follow up with a totally-not-Enclave school?That might not be a half bad idea. Especially if those totally-not-ex-Enclave teachers realize that the law punishes treason.
>>6327385we did promise them that we'll string them up if they try to pull any fast oneshowever, treason is such a vague thing and there are probably simpler rules we can put in placeif someone blabs and gets soldiers killed, that's being accessory to murders, for example
>>6327385>Rape is pretty bad and should at least be lifetime sentence of hard laborwhat do you have against castration? it's even reversible if done properly
>>6327374I'm using standard US face bricks, which are 194×92mm across a 6m wide road (i.e. standard US 2-lane road width, we could probably narrow it down a little) and the distance comes to a nice round 100km.If we can ship tonnes of bricks or concrete powder, we can move around some portable tanks of water for concrete mix. We can also use concrete blocks and flagstones which may be easier to produce. Either way, the sheer volume of masonry required would need the process to be mechanised at the factories to produce the amounts needed.As an an alternative to masonry, we can pivot to the past and build a macadam road of layers of crushed stone. It'd be cheap, simple and excellent for lower-speed light traffic and by the time in the future we get more, heavier vehicles moving at higher speeds we can use coal tar produced as a gasifier byproduct to upgrade it to more solid chipseal.
>>6327403>standard US face bricksnot what you would use for a road face>If we can ship tonnes of bricksin carts, sure, easy thing to do even with just brahmin pulling> or concrete powderno such thing. you probably meant cement. we don't have that, we have magical claycrete>we can move around some portable tanks of water for concrete mixwe have no trucks and no water tanks>masonryI am not proposimg masonry, anonhave you ever even seen a brick road?
>>6327357>Multiple instances of recidivism of tier 2 crime, three strikes?No three strikes. You get 1. Fool me once you have a chance to get things in order in that mind, reflect in prison while doing hard labour, fool me twice you get what you deserve.>Outrageous corruption that damages NVD capabilityThis one should be Tier 1. If its outrageous its putting the NVD at risk.>Fraud>Tax EvasionI think this two should jump at the very least to tier 2And for the crimes in Fines, it should be specific that payment increases if someone keeps repeating said actions in the open.
>>6327407I was using the standard bricks as a standard size to provide an everyday comparison point. You can change the size, point is it's a fuckin lot of brick.I do mean cement I suppose. I've never seen a brick road outside a town centre since they were never in fashion in this country but bricks, cut stone, concrete blocks and what have you are all types of masonry depending on your definition so YMMV there but it's just semantics. If you have a cart, you can just as easily use it to move water with some sheetmetal.
>>6327419I meant it's not masonry in the sense that you don't need to mortar themyou lay them down on a hard-packed sand surface, spread some sand on top and brush it so it gets in the gaps between bricks and call it a road
>>6327357Generally agree.I don't have strong opinions about whether grand theft automatically merits execution, but I do think "outrageous corruption" should be Tier 1. Also Tier 3 recidivism should lead up to Tier 2 (three strikes?) though not past that unless higher crimes are committed.Also just putting a note in that leonine contracts aren't recognized by the state and will be tossed out in a court of law. Maybe put that under "fines" or somesuch.
Okay how about this. I won’t cement the laws in right now, will let there be further discussion over it. Thanks for the discourse, time to resume.
>>6327423Again, YMMV on the definition of masonry as a construction method - I take it as assembling out of blocks of stone or ceramic with mortar optional and count bricks as masonry as a class of materials as well - the long and short is I'm distinguishing between using blocks versus aggregate or poured materials. We're getting off track though, while we could use bricks or concrete blocks as road paving stone, the quantities we'd need are enormous and we won't be able to supply that until we industrialise production of either and trying to get started on the road now will hoover up our very limited supply of bricks without getting much done.
>>6327357Honestly I'd say more financial thief up to tier 2 and other financial crimes to T2 as well. But I like the rest
>>6327521I would go in on 'grand Theft' dropping to Tier 2, with Fraud and Tax Evasion being raised to Tier 2. Hard labor is a harsh punishment, and if some thievery is going there, it all should, are any other anons comfortable committing to that?
I'm mostly happy with the laws, and it's not like we can't rewrite them later. Probably do need to set up a panel of judges or something though, or maybe Yes-Man can run that given he's everywhere with the securitrons.
>>6327456>until we industrialise production of either we have a deposit of claycrete in Cottonwood that we are doing nothing with (that is right by the zion refugees that are sitting around doing nothing) and it's driving me nutswe can make a road with it and we can use the road to ship more claycrete to Vegas and environs and solve all our building materials needsbut no, it's better to just sit on our hands apparently
Try as you might, you just can’t pull the trigger on putting a system of laws in place. You’re fine with a vast majority of it, but the devil is in the details and you decide to give yourself the rest of the month to chew on it. Thankfully, you’re killing two molerats with one landmine because Secretary Garrett is also reporting on her trip to the Securitron Factory. [Thank you all for your input, I have a lot to think about. Next, Secretary Garrett has a report.]Garrett shuffles a few papers in an old manilla folder and stands. Garrett: Thanks, Courier. Recently, I took a trip across the river to a Securitron Facility across the river. It was certainly interesting and Secretary Haversam does have some options for fixing the reactor. I was tasked with sourcing the resources needed for the Securitron robot. First, titanium for the outer shell. This may prove to be the most difficult of the resources as it needs to be manufactured. That being said, we’re incredibly lucky there is a titanium facility in New Vegas. According to Yes Man, it’s a fully integrated facility meaning that it should be able to produce the finished product for the shell of the robot. That being said, we have no idea what state the facility is in and how far we are from it running. As for the actual material, it’s a little more unknown. In Mr. House’s files, Bagdad Arizona had a copper mine with small-scale zinc deposits. It is unsure the extent of Titanium-adjacent material but the only other deposits are deep in Legion territory, south of Phoenix. This is outside of my area of expertise and there aren’t many geologists in the NVD.Moving on, copper for the wiring and ammunition. Thankfully, we have a sizable deposit in the NVD and the Legion mines copper in their territory. The glass for the monitor is a mixture of standard glass and lead, resulting in a much stronger material. Once again, the Legion mines lead so that’s a source and a place called Panaca north of New Vegas was a sizable lead mine before the war. The focusing crystals for laser weaponry are more advanced but there are those in the wasteland who know this craft. Silica is the main material needed, of which there are small deposits in and around the Mojave. We also need this for electronic parts within the Securitron. Thanks to Secretary Lewis, we know the old Vault around Sloan was on top of a large sulfur cave deposit and the hopes are that some minor excavation will allow us access to it. Saltpeter, or Potassium Nitrate, is more difficult as it is not found anywhere nearby. It’s possible caves in and around the region will have guano, from bats, but we can import from the NCR. We have the capability to produce steel for miscellaneous Securitron parts and for the ammunition due to New Vegas Steel. The facility needs work and we need coal and iron, but there is a small iron deposit around Charleston and a coal mine across the river. We can also import from the NCR.
Nuclear material for the fission battery isn’t necessarily hard to find and the battery itself is not hard to construct, but we need pure uranium. Thank you for clearing that up, Secretary Haversam. We are incredibly lucky that there is an old mine here in the Mojave that had Uranium in small amounts, though we’re unsure the amount due to it not being mined pre-war: One of the largest pre-war Lithium mines in the United States is in Nevada, but it’s on the other side of the state. Not even the NCR is mining lithium, so this would give us a massive advantage in the construction of electronics and batteries. This is not my area of expertise, so please consult Yes Man, Haversam or Arcade whenever he gets back. Zinc is perhaps the biggest roadblock as there’s no sources nearby and Yes Man tells us we need pure Zinc. As of now, I have no sources of supply either. We’ll need to work around this, but I think we have time. Almost done, folks. Aluminum for their missiles and certain Securitron parts can actually come from recycled aluminum, but the process still needs to be able to weed out almost all impurities. It may result in lower reliability, but it’s our only choice. Synthetic rubber is another area I have no idea what I’m talking about, but Mr. House included plans on creating this in New Vegas. We need a source of natural gas or actual oil from the ground, and Utah or California are our closest sources. And finally, gold and silver for electronics may be one of the easiest, if not the easiest materials here. Not only can we recycle old electronics but the Legion and NCR also have large quantities of metal. That’s not mentioning the silver and gold deposits in the Mojave as well. Francine exhales and flops down in her chair. That wasn’t an easy presentation to give so you respond with a smile and polite applause.
>>6327772whew!so, zinc and rubber remain as unknown/unavailablethat's not so bad!I say we get the copper from our own mine and import the nitrate and start production of ammo immediately, as a next step, look into that uranium mine, nuclear batteries can do all sorts of useful things
[That’s a lot to take in, but does anyone have any questions right now?]Ted gives a long whistle before lazily raising his hand.Ted: This is years of hard work, and that’s being optimistic. Are these robots worth it?Kreger: Son, I take it you haven’t seen them in person. These killing machines are specifically built for the post-apocalyptic battlefield and having a reliable source of repairs and production will make sure no one will ever bother us again. Hell, it would be easier to have an army of these than train, maintain and supply an infantry division anyway. Lewis: And hell, we can use the other resources ourselves too. Gunpowder can be turned to explosives, bullets sold to other people, steel for just about anything…I think trying to build these robot things of yours is a good, eh, test, of our capabilities. Ted: If we can get a good supply of saltpeter, our agricultural output would nearly double. Brahmin shit isn’t bad but nothing beats chemical fertilizer. The next half an hour is spent discussing the secondary and tertiary benefits of pursuing this quasi-industrial plan, but the entire council agrees that it’s probably worth the trouble. You wonder how Big Mountain could help in this endeavor…
>>6327774honestly I'd prefer the infantry division, if only as a hedge against mr. Housebut the project is still worth starting, so many side benefits
>>6327772So New Vegas Steel does have a blast furnace in the back? That's good news, though we still need to coke the coal first unless it's vertically integrated enough to have a coke oven too. Also nice hearing fission batteries don't need enriched uranium because they're magic.Zinc was mined sporadically in a few places near Goodsprings. Panaca was also a major zinc mining district in addition to lead in the past - where you find one, you usually find the other and a lot of the Pb mines produced Zn as well.We can manufacture synthetic hydrocarbons for rubber from coal and produce synthetic nitrates via the Haber process so no need for guano there (eventually, it's above our ability right now).We also have all the resources we need to produce aluminium (alunite is a viable aluminium ore and we have sources of fluorine for making synthetic cryolite. But this is a pretty involved industrial process, second only to the titanium and we don't have the headstart of an existing facility on that front so this might be the last one we get round to.So really, we're less constrained on resources than this might make things seem.
>>6327771Huh, Panaca's pretty close to Caliente, which is (was?) an independent town on the edge of 80s and the old White Legs territory. Depending on our luck the 80s will probably have some sort of presence there, though who knows for sure.It's probably worth sending some recon up there to see what things look like.
>>6327911>batteriesyeah, excellent news>aluminiumI guess scrap for now? for cryolite there's Little Three Mine in San Diego and another down in the Sierra Blanca near Juarez
>>6327848Our infantry are still a bit hard to make right now but its just for a question of cost/upkeep, since we are still building industries and this nation. Once things get actually going, and we can do more than the necessary then making infantry will be easier and we will be able to cut the costs of making them (increase leather production for name one). We will be able to field more of them too. Freeside remains a great reserve of manpower.
>>6328112oh, I'm not saying we should somehow magick up a division tomorrowjust... I would be leery of letting the combined strength of our securitrons grow higher than the combined strength of our actual army, and even that would be cutting it rather fine, a safe-ish ratio would be 1:4 or thereabouts
>>6328098>>6328098Someone's been browsing Mindat. I don't believe cryolite has been mined commercially for a long time since it was mined to extinction at Ivingtut and all cryolite used today is manufactured synthetically. I think it's likely that these occurrences of cryolite are are only in trace amounts and not viable for mining though it's possible Pikes Peak might be.If we need fluorine for synthesising sodium hexafluorosilicate, Beatty to the west has a number of fluorite mines we can check out.
>>6328175guilty as charged
Before I forget, whenever we get around to drilling for oil we need to make flaring illegal. Wasting natural gas just to save money is ridiculous.And if we ever get around to fracking, make disposal injections illegal so we don't set off earthquakes. Fracking is fine as long as you are disposing of the flowback properly instead of jamming in the earth and calling it good.
You actually have another meeting planned with Raul, Francine, Ted and Chomp but you’ll spare them from more bureaucratic nonsense for now.But you aren’t as lucky as you immediately have another meeting with the first of the enclave immigrants that have arrived to the NVD. As you haven’t decided exactly where they should go (and what exactly you want them to do here) they have naturally been attracted to the Crown Jewel of the Mojave. You certainly don’t trust them to enter the Lucky 38 so you instead journey over to Freeside, though not too far from the strip. Dirty Doug’s Tavern is just another hole-in-the-wall bar quiet enough to have a conversation without peeping ears but close enough to The Strip to attract clientele who aren’t vagrants.You’re sitting across from a young woman named Tiffany Hoover, blonde and attractive all things considered, while you’re drinking a warm beer of unknown source. To her credit, she’s drinking the same swill as you. “It’s fantastic to finally meet you, Mr. Long had so much good to say about you! And this place! New Reno was relatively untouched compared to the rest of the wasteland but New Vegas…wow!”Her enthusiasm is cute but you need to temper your primal emotions with those of running a state. [I appreciate what Cyrus has said, though I was incredibly generous so I wouldn’t expect anything different. I’m sure you’ve been informed of the agreement between myself and Cyrus?]She looks around to ensure no one else is listening, but bars at 3 PM have been less and less busy as of late. “You’ve given us a new lease on life, not just for us but for our dear ol’ United States! Our first group may just number under 20, but we’ve been sent to help set up for everyone else coming out! So, let’s start there. New Vegas is absolutely wonderful and I think that’s the best place for us to start out at. We have doctors that can provide for Freeside, teachers who can begin to train the next generation, engineers who would love to be out to work on some of the disused factories around here…”You put your hand up and slow her roll. [The enthusiasm is great but I haven’t decided where to place the majority of the Enclave immigrants. Truthfully, I don’t trust you people yet. Even though you’ve submitted your information to my Securitrons, there’s a lot of things to consider here. If nothing else, the NCR and Brotherhood cannot know what we’re doing.]Her face goes to shock and her pale skin turns pink.“I didn’t mean to force anything, I just assumed like a fool. We are at your command, Director.”[Safety concerns aside, I would like to know why you think New Vegas itself is the best place for your people.]
“Well The Household assumed that would be where you wanted us! It’s the technological, economic, political, social and industrial heartland of the region! With the skills we’re bringing, it wouldn’t do us much good to be stuck in the desert somewhere! Well, the desert more than New Vegas already is.”You’ve been chewing on this for weeks now. It would probably be the most efficient to send them where their skills would be best. To Hoover, to the NVD headquarters, to Camp Rex…But you are also worried about exposure. The only educated and capable people come from either the NCR or Brotherhood and while these are former New Reno residents, you’re not sure how that would hold up to scrutiny. You also just don’t fully trust these people yet. Aside from what you’ve heard of The Enclave, you’ve agreed to allow hundreds of unknowns into your nation where they will presumably obtain positions of power and influence. If you keep them in one place, it would be much easier to keep an eye on them. Or would it hinder their integration into the NVD, if they can’t see what the nation truly is made up of?This is the question that’s been in your head, but it’s time to make a decision. >Before you decide where you want the enclave immigrants to stay and their immediate tasks, any questions for Tiffan regarding the skill sets of “The Household” or anything else pertinent to the Courier?(While this little vote/conversation is ongoing, will be writing other stuff as well so should keep the pace)
>>6328316>our dear ol’ United Statesayo bitch, dis da muhfuggin NVD
>>6328308as far as I'm aware, our neck of the woods had approx. zero petroleum reserves to start with and what the US did have had been more or less completely tapped out by 2077. I don't even know where would still have viable petroleum reserves, even unconventional ones, but I can't imagine we'd find any in areas accessible to us.
>>6328319first of all, the fuck is a "Household" and why should we caresecond, why does she personally care about this "Household" thing and is not just content to start a new life in the NVD - plenty of opportunities for a cute smart thingthey send us bait? let's dangle some bait of our own, for shits and giggles
>>6328319I think we should keep them from consolidating all in one place. We should pick three or maybe four to split them between, so they aren't suddenly mixed in everywhere, but also do they aren't able to all organize as one big unit AND are seeing the different kinds of people and communities here. Genesis is a good candidate. Their technical skills could kick start brick production and shipping, and seeing how they do living alongside tribals from Zion, also new desperate refugees, will be extremely informative. I think we should have NVD agents screening the immigrants in all of the places we settle them for potential recruits to go to Big MT. We should be looking for people that are amenable to our ideology, skilled in high science, pliable or submissive in demeanor, and once we have two or three dozen people vetted we put them under surveillance for one or two months. After that, if it all looks above boards, we put them under Arcade and Henry - the ex-Enclave guys already leading the charge to revolutionize our science there. That's my pitch, hopefully it helps us sort this out.
>>6328327I’ll answer this OOC. The household is just what they referred to themselves as calling themselves “enclave immigrants” out loud would be silly and they technically weren’t all Salvatores, and not every Salvatore was one of these hidden descendants
>>6328343coolstill interested in an answer to my second question tho
>>6328345Even if she is willing to give up the project of genocide and reclamation for the U.S.A., she likely isn't interested in forgetting all about her heritage and culture, or her friends and neighbors. She might be willing to assimilate and maintain secrecy about her past, but I think it's safe to assume that she wants to remember the past and collaborate with her community members as they integrate together. Like most refugees, it seems like she is expecting a synthesis with the NVD rather than just letting go of the past entirely. QM, you're welcome to call me out if I'm assuming too much, and of course we all feel they are dodgy and maybe shouldn't be trusted right away, but still, to me at least it's readily legible why she cares about 'the household' beyond just getting here. It's her history.
>>6328341I would like for their political leadership to be somewhere we can see them, you can't shoot what you can't seeNipton maybethe rest of them can either settle there or go work different places, like helping with the claycrete in Genesis or teaching in WestsideI would very politely advise them against setting up closed communities anywhere they go - they probably don't want the extra attention
>>6328346yes well, I would very much appreciate an in character answer from our generous QM if at all possiblewill such an obvious recruitment pitch be met with derision? mere amusement? anger? complete indifference? interest?
>>6328319Exactly what skills do they all have? We could use just about anything they have to offer, but knowing what that is would be helpful.>>6328341I think I can agree with this to an extent, but we also need to be careful about the places we choose and our ability to keep an eye on them. I have no doubt that whatever the intentions of the majority, there will be a portion of them that are hoping to leverage our generosity into a new branch of the Enclave, and we need to be sure that they are identified and removed before they are allowed to begin setting up their own networks of power.
>>6328319>What skill sets and locations would they actually like or be qualified for at the moment?>How many of the 20 are actually family members directly and how many are 'family' so to speak as a group?I'm still for one of the Vaults or maybe Genesis or Westside? But I'm also for them all to be together.
>>6328354How would you feel about Genesis, Westside, and Nipton? Or potentially Genesis, Westside, and Boulder City?
>>6328369Genesis is a good choice, the tribals won't have meaningful knowledge or opinions of the Enclave and it's close to the Searchlight airport if they want something intellectual to do.Westside is a very bad choice because of our noninterference agreement with them, meaning that if they do try to do anything sketchy we'll have to slug it out legally to even investigate. If I wanted the seditious Enclave refugees to succeed, I'd put them in Westside.As for Nipton, it's not an awful choice though I'm wary of the high presence of NCR immigrants.As for Boulder City, I really don't want them near the Dam until we have an idea of who we can trust among them.
>>6328375Some very good points. In that case, let's keep Genesis, and swap the other two. Goodsprings is appropriately desolate but there is some aerotech happening nearby? Any ideas for a final spot? Novac is a little close to some rocket technology, but might be another good option.
>>6328379I think Novac is good, along with Genesis and at least a third option. Goodsprings and Nipton aren't necessarily bad choices, if we can't think of anything better. At the very least putting some in Nipton would keep the refugees there on their toes.
>>6328410Do you wanna agree to let Nipton remain as a bit of a gamble, but not a huge one? I do think an NCR presence incentivizes them to be on best behavior in order to not be mobbed. Genesis interests me because it will truly test their ability to play ball. This would make two votes to sort the Enclave into groups at Genesis, Novac, and Nipton to start, while beginning a screening process to locate ideal candidates for important science projects? This is a good deliberate step to get us to a point where the DT on our research rolls is much more manageable.
You guy's are forgetting the dam. We need their technicians to eventually take over so we can kick the ncr out. Then we can just flat out sell water and electricity to the ncr for fuckloads of money. I forget where the steel plant is... but we could send them their to get it up and running for NVD owned plant. There's also heavy industry and manufacturing and pharmaceuticals. Just embed our intelligence apparatus in any projects we send them to do. Easy peasy to keep an eye on them.
>>6328437I don't want them anywhere near the Dam at this point, and our intelligence agency is still firmly unready for use right now. Really need to get Ulysses in on showing them the ropes.One our intelligence agency is up though keeping an eye on them will be much more manageable.
>>6328341>>6328375>>6328431For the Enclave immigrants, I think it would be ideal to keep them near New Vegas as Tiffany said; they're mostly going to be specialists, and while it would be nice to kickstart one of the towns their skillset would be wasted on something we can get anyone from the NCR or wasteland to do. Really, I think the biggest risk from letting these guys on is pissing off the Brotherhood or NCR, so we need to make sure that they have minimal opportunities to blab their mouths to people who might get suspicious. Keeping them around NCR is a good idea to keep them on their best behaviour, but if Kimball gets word we're harbouring these guys we're never going to hear the end of it.I'm going to propose Vault 19 or 34 again, since we'll want these guys in a hideyhole relatively close by, Vault 34 is really close to all our industry, but needs to be cleaned our and the reactor repaired, 19 is a bit further out but it's on top of that sulfur deposit we need for the securitrons, and it'd be good to kickstart access to one of those.
>>6328476So how about Genesis, Vault 19, and 34, with their assignments being to help with production of bricks, processed sulfur, and the repair of the reactor? Completion of those tasks could demonstrate some real value and loyalty.
>>6328476>while it would be nice to kickstart one of the towns their skillset would be wasted on something we can get anyone from the NCR or wasteland to do.You're missing the point of all this. The whole reason we aren't immediately folding them into our science facilities is because there's a 100% chance that there are some bad actors who need to be weeded out before we trust them with doing science for us. We are dividing them up and keeping them away from our serious research for exactly that reason, so we'll have time to parse through them before setting the reasonably trustworthy ones to work on our research.>>6328486I think Genesis, Novac, and Nipton are fine.
>>6328503Great, I am in for those three locations too. There is a lot of divergence on so many of the different things we need to handle, I'm glad to get even just two or three of us agreeing on a course of action.
>>6328431hey if you want to test their ability to play ball you get them involved with the mutants>>6328486>Vaultno. we've been over this
>>6328517Troll option: Send Cyrus to Jacobstown. If he can convince Marcus to vouch for him, he's in.
>>6328476The vaults are not good for several reasons, : they are very expensive and falling apart, with rarer and rarer parts. Requiring to establish an expensive budget for repair+mainteneance+expansion of them, and we might be even forced to attempt to even have industry made for rebuild parts of it. It shifts our focus toward the underground, when all our plans are above. Then when its done, it puts this guys again in their natural condition. AND it completely isolates them on their own community. Do we want this people to be part of the NVD ? Or keep being an Enclave above others, since we now need to fund a ludicrous budget for a special underground settlement, where they likely settle and want to naturally expand it underground.You also like this >>6328503 anon said miss why we are doing this at all. What where they doing here ar first ? Sabotage. Crime. Do we want them to do whatever they want ? No ? Then we need a bare minimum for once. A bare minimum that wasn't entertained before with the likes of House, despite us having him in our hands quite literally. This is the same situation just that is a group of people, that are an unknown that was doing something against us before. Unlike House at least they don't have a vendetta with us in theory. >>6328486Genesis, Novac, Nipton, Sloan, Bitter Springs and even Nelson are all good choices. All fresh starts. Bittersprings i would think twice on it, since is not too far from NV and Boulder City. But is still countryside and it can be considered a wild frontier that needs actual work done, what with all the dangerous fauna nearby. Nipton is the nearest to the NCR so if we don't want them there plenty of other places to be.>>6328319>Do you mind telling me more about the Household ? Say what is your daily life with them, how do you treat eachother, do all of you marry with the Salvatores ? Or always work with them for that matter ?>Do you mind sharing more ? Like if you had anyone you ever disliked or anyone that you don't agree with it in the Household, and the Salvatores ? It cant be all smiles and sunshine no ?>Do you have any personal ambitions ? Perhaps a project or an idea you have read upon but never had the tools or safe place for accomplish it ?>What did you exactly hear and see yourself so far of the NVD ? When the Salvatores where here before, what did you hear of this place ? Did you know anyone of the Salvatores sent here ? What did you think of it ? Do you agree with what Cyrus said, a fresh new start ?
>>6328523hey you know what, that's half of a good idea>>6328526I like all you're sayingso how about thisthe Household leaders (whoever they may be, we need a list) settle in Nipton, with a mandate to start integrating their community into the NVD by making themselves usefultheir first assignments will be Nipton (straight up reclamation job), Searchlight (economy, education) and Nelson (???)the bright young thing can lead the Nelson mission, if she chooses to accept there is a position in our government for her - subsecretary for parahuman affairs
>>6328503Anon, the whole point of accepting the Enclave in the first place was so they could give us their expertise that literally nobody else in the wasteland has outside the Brotherhood, and they're not sharing. Now I'm not saying we give them full and unsupervised access to Yes-Man and the Think Tank, but there's a point where paranoia gets in the way of progress here. Yes, there's a risk, but we also accepted Frumentarii into our intel services and nobody batted an eye, so I don't see why people are suddenly so worried we're going to get stabbed in the back by people who have everything to lose if they do. We need to place them near places they'll be useful like the New Vegas Medical Clinic or Freeside, not keep them away from anything potentially dangerous in case they use it, that's how the Brotherhhod stagnated.
>>6328540baby stepsI really, really don't trust these guys[/spoiler]it's pretty obvious that you're samefagging btw[/spoiler]
>>6328544Congrats, you've figured I'm this anon >>6328476 mobile posting. I still don't understand why you're so paranoid, like what are you expecting them to do, poison the water supply then go cackling into the desert like Father Elijah? Between the Blight and just running the state, we need every advantage we can get, and it's not like they should even have any reason to backstab us anyway.
>>6328540>We need to place them near places they'll be useful like the New Vegas Medical Clinic or Freeside, not keep them away from anything potentially dangerous in case they use it, that's how the Brotherhhod stagnated.We are vetting members of a faction that was previously hostile toward us before admitting them into our research apparatus. This is not excessive paranoia, this is basic due diligence.
>>6328540>the whole point of accepting the Enclave in the first place was so they could give us their expertise that literally nobody else We agreed upon actually bothering checking on them and testing them before giving them a green light on the positions they want, not giving them free access in the government immediately like you are suggesting and pushing for. You know that if you were there before.>Now I'm not saying we give them full and unsupervised access to Yes-Man and the Think TankYou seem very ready to send them doing whatever they want it seems with little control already, so that genuinely just sounds like a next step you have in mind.>paranoia.... after what they did ?>accepted FrumentariiThey were sent by Caesar specifically has teachers, because we need instructors for spies of our own. We didn't have exactly many other options for train spies of our own. I don't remember us saying we "accept them", or that we are very happy for any Frumentarii in the NVD. They are a necessary hazard. Caesar even told us later on that we were free to eliminate them at our leisure after we didn't need their service anymore, basically marking them has traitors in his eyes.>suddenly???? suddenly ? This was a thing we were worried about since there is not written anywhere they will just integrate and end of story. Them attempting something remains a very real possibility, and the "Household" members know it too since we are still creating this state. A newborn state, is an opportunity for power.
>>6328545>like what are you expecting them to doSend information on Big MT (or even Lucky 38) tech to other Enclave branches, giving them an immense tech advantage in reconquering the United States?And that's without considering all the ways a rogue scientist could fuck the NVD over personally.
>>6328545>yeah I did try to sway the discussion by talking out of two mouths so whatsee, this is exactly the kind of attitude that makes me distrust you and anything coming from you
>>6328533ehh, just read Jacobstown where I wrote NelsonI was lacking coffee
>>6328476>>6328540Pro-Enclave anon checking in again.>>6328547>>6328552I'm explicitly not saying we send them to work in the Lucky 38 or Big MT at all. That would indeed be stupid. What I am instead arguing for is placing them where they'll be of most use, like Freeside working with the Followers or general places where we could do with a serious boost to education and tech workers, instead of treating them like regular NCR immigrants and sending them to work on a farm or a brick industry so simple even tribals can figure it out. I'm also arguing that anons are being excessively paranoid and that a group that literally has nowhere else to go and have the explicit threat of being wiped out if they fuck with us are not going to be actively subverting our state from within beyond the usual rah rah USA thing they've been indoctrinated with.
>>6328567you keep repeating this stuff and it doesn't get more true in the repeatingthey are on probation after being caught acting like assholes, yes they're going to do some community service, just like the street-level guys we capturednbd, get over it
>>6328365“The biggest groupings, and I’m being very broad here, are in doctors, engineers and soldiers. Everyone who decided to do medicine is at least trained as a general practitioner, but we make sure there is specialization like neuroscience, cardiologists, epidemiologists…you name it! It’s the same thing with engineers, everyone who chose to be one also chose their specialization. I’m a civil engineer, but my brother is a mechanical engineer and my cousin an electrical! Of course even within that we each have our specializations. Finally, everyone else is folded into the military. Most are trained in support for the few power armor soldiers and pilots we have, but even those auxiliaries also have a secondary skill. My father is lead maintenance for a Vertibird Gunship but he also builds energy weapons for The Salvatores. There’s also about 30 instructors whose whole job is to teach the next generation, with our help of course. I can’t speak for everyone, but they just want to get started rebuilding. We’ve been waiting for decades and our best chance is so close. As for family, biologically my brother and cousin are here, but the rest are basically my family. We’ve grown up together, learned together, laughed and cried together. “
>>6328601>civil engineerokay, Searchlight for her and whoever she chooses to bring alongneurologist lead for the group that goes to help mutantsI would still like to dangle a government position under her nose tho
>>6328601>best chanceoh and best chance to what?
>>6328601Bitter springs could be good to get Callville Bay working for better trade with legion. Then we got camp Rex and the boomers to keep them in check. Maybe do a worker program with some Freeside people to get the culture mixed.Nelson would be good to give them a mine and wind farm to work on. That way it can test them and make them full useful, but not working on things we are worried about. Novac could get boosted with the Doctors incoming. Genesis wouldn't be bad for having different views to rub off on them. With those three it would give a boost to make that area better off.For the Teachers we can mix them with the followers to make a teaching plan. That way we will have someone to keep oversight on how and what is getting teach. Getting the University up and running sooner and some controlled work for them.The Mutant neurologist could be another test to them. Also a boon for the Mutants if it works out. A shame they are sterile, but I think they have a long life span. It could be worth the investment if we plan to integrate super mutants into NVD more.
>>6328633mutants with some decent steel armor and 40mm grenade launchers, poor man's spess muhreenz
>>6328633good ideas.>>6328638Maybe. They might need to go in to a school first, need some control and a few attempts in putting some knowledge in those brains.
>>6328633>worker program with some Freeside peoplemaybe for cleaning up Nipton?
>>6328567I'm actually Pro-Enclave anon, You dumb fuck. I just don't have a reason to send them to lucky 38 or Big MT. Hell I specifically said one of the Vaults or Westside/Genesis.Also God Bless the Enclave.>>6328633Checked and that not too bad.
>>6328633>>6328601>supportI still think we should before our 5 year deadline get them trained up to take over the dam at some point.
>>6328633I am glad to expand a bit and throw my support behind this, though, with limited intelligence personnel it might be more difficult to monitor that many different refugee groups simultaneously. I am willing to risk some static there to keep the ball rolling, though.
>>6328716keep it small at first maybe? 2 assignments should be plenty to give us an idea of who we're dealing with
>>6328763If you can help get others to agree? I am feeling a bit exasperated here as I was attempting at first to narrow things down to something manageable and agreeable so we can stop speculating (read: bickering) about the devil we've gotten in bed with and just let the game show us what we are dealing with. Yaknow, so we can debate (read: bicker) about other things instead. But more and more possibilities have been pitched, including those from previous threads, and no one seems able to come to consensus. So plainly: I *think* we should pick the three best places and commit to that. I think they are: >Genesis>Novac >Goodsprings I am open to >Nelson>Nipton >Searchlight>Sloan >Bitter SpringsMost other locations seem to be contentious with other anons, at the least, or obviously risky. Personally? I am willing to take the risk, but am not interested in arguing that further, it's definitely the minority position, it's a waste of space in the thread to keep talking about Big MT, the Strip, the vaults, etc It seems like more anons are supporting the above pitch I replied to for splitting them between six settlements. I'm willing to change my vote to support that also, even if I think it's got its own, similar risks, just so we can be done with this. The QM can count my vote either way, for now.
>>6328777I'd go for Nipton instead of Novac simply because there's nothing there and it will be easier to keep an eye on them that wayGenesis and Goodsprings are finealso gotta figure out ways to keep tabs of them once they're there
>>6328784Good way to train intelligence officers, with a couple securitrons here and there to hedge things out?
>>6328787>Good way to train intelligence officersor get them turned on their first mission lolbut yes we should assign someI wouldn't bother with securitrons except for one in Nipton to provide easy communications
“The Household is just every former Enclave descendant, or member themselves. We have accepted some outsiders into our group, but only on special occasions. After The Rig and Navarro, we realized if we dispersed then the hope for America was over. Colonel Clinton gathered enough survivors and fled East, but stopped at New Reno which was far from NCR influence at the time. He made a deal with the Salvatores and the rest is history. Some of us worked directly with the gang, either as enforcers or in management, while the rest worked building and maintaining their weapons and armor. Over time, we morphed together and it became harder to find where The Household ended and where The Salvatores began, which is why Cyrus decided to reach out.”She takes a big swig of her beer and grimaces. “This stuff sucks. Some of us are brewers in their spare time, you should give it a try. Anyway, we of course didn’t always have the best of times. There was a schism about 15 years ago where some of the more radicals got sent packing further East and there’s always those who give up on our mission and attempt to settle in the NCR. But Cyrus has gotten us back on track, especially when we learned about New Vegas. You’re probably the first person to ever ask about a personal dream haha. It may sound cheesy, but having a home with a yard, two kids, a husband and a dog! But if that’s not possible, getting Hoover Dam back to its former glory would be a good consolation prize. Nothing better represents American ingenuity and ability than that.”She pauses to finish her drink as you order another round. You wouldn’t say it yet, but you’d kill for some good, cold beer and if they can bring that….[What do you think of this place and where do you see yourself here?]“I did just get here and there’s a lot of work to do, but what a place! Much of the city is pretty undamaged and Lake Meade truly is beautiful. The Salvatores, the actual criminals, never mentioned the potential of the Mojave, they were just so concerned about making money in Freeside. But you’re not just some warlord with robots, which some of us thought when Cyrus first told us about you. A little rough around the edges, but your heart is in the right place and you certainly don’t lack the….vigor…of governorship. But this isn’t something that can be done by one person, even Washington had Hamilton and Lafayette.”
>>6328806>4 kids and you got a deal.
Not calling it immediately but seeing a lean towards Novac, Genesis and Goodsprings?
>>6328823Yeah, that's fine.
>>6328823Ya that works.God Bless the Enclave and America!
>>6328823would've liked the muties to get some help but maybe later?yeah I'm fine with itbut again... under surveillance
>>6328823Send it!
>>6328845Yeah I’ll send one of the three to each settlements. Whoever’s going to Genesis will have to have one heck of a cover story lol
>>6328823I'll chuck in a vote for Freeside, for all the good it'll do.
>>6328823Yeah that's fine, we can move the doctors around for the mutants and teachers with an action later.It's kind of funny that they are going to start a new begin where we did in good spring.
You pull out your pipboy and show Tiffany the map of the Mojave. [I’m sending your-[i]our[/i] new arrivals to three places. Goodsprings, Novac and Genesis. Goodsprings is a quickly-growing ranching town and major rest stop. It’s also where I was…began again…so it’s special to me. Genesis has recently been settled by refugees from Zion, a former paradise on earth. They’re still in mourning and they are very special to me, so remind those who decide to live there. Finally, Novac is probably of more interest to you all. Not only is it a scrap hub for the NVD but it’s near a former rocket launch site, an old wind farm and even a vault. I’m sure you’ll make do.]“That’s understandable, Director. We’ll not only earn your trust but show that we’re what you need to build our new future. I hope you’ll let us in sooner than later. Until then.”She raises her bottle and you oblige, clinking the glass together. Before she leaves to bring the news to the enclave immigrants, she gives you a parting look. “I hope I get to see you again, Director. You’re pretty cute for a state leader.”
>>6328904So I'm just gonna say, sowing wild oats is hardly the worst way to establish a legacy.
>>6328904Ohno, She was sent to be the fuck-meat.
>>6328924Kek. Should of sent her to the brothel
>>6328924I thought that was obvious
Before your RMRP meeting, there’s a long list of smaller things to get off of your plate. Even with Jane helping organize things, you’re starting to feel overwhelmed. You wonder what Ulysses could handle himself to ease the burden, but that decision will have to wait until next month at least. First and foremost, you head to Freeside to see how the Cholera outbreak is being handled both here and in Novac. You meet Julie and a gaggle of her best doctors in the Mojave, though more epidemiologists than anything else. Novac is more or less contained and shouldn’t expect a spreading of the infection but those who have more severe cases aren’t expected to live. While the medical situation in the NVD has improved, it’s still poor compared to the NCR and antibiotics are some of the hardest things to produce in quantity. Those with minor cases are being rehydrated and have a better chance of pulling through. Novac’s predicted death toll is 45. Julie cautions that unless things are improved, it’s a matter of time before something else rips through the shanty towns of Novac. Freeside is a more delicate situation. The King’s housing reorganization has helped to move people away from their filth and the NVPD enforcing punitive fines on those dumping waste publicly has also helped but there’s a severe shortage of bath houses and only a few places in the city to get fresh water. There’s also been a recent influx of thousands of visitors and immigrants which has begun to overload the precarious housing situation. Farkas’ council thinks they have cordoned off the worst of the infection after asking Kreger for Securitron help, but the NVPD are too afraid to go into the impacted neighborhoods and there’s not enough medicine or doctors to care for the hundreds currently sick. Unfortunately, the followers are all too experienced in Cholera and when medicine is lacking, it’s separating the worst cases and letting nature take its course. Projected death toll, 650.While Julie admits that Cholera is all too common in wasteland communities this size, she does highlight that this is a minor outbreak and it could have been, and could still be, much worse. She implores you to take more action on increasing fresh water availability, better educational programs and improved sanitation infrastructure.
While you were in Freeside, you also had the idea to find Rotface. While disgustingly unassuming, he has a habit for keeping his ear to the ground and knowing things before anyone else. With your own brilliance agency being a secondary objective, this is an easy way to add a local asset for relatively no work. He wasn’t in his usual spot, which shouldn’t surprise you as it’s been about a year since you last spoke to him. But after asking around, you’re pleased to find that he’s found steady work in a new caravan company running between Westside and Jacobstown. It’s just your luck that he’s close by in Freeside at his favorite dive joint. It wasn’t a hard sell to convince him to ditch walking the hot Mojave and instead become a spy for you. You’re not exactly sure where the intelligence headquarters are, if there is any, and instead send him to McCarran to find Kreger. You make sure the Securitrons know his new role. You also send Garrett a courier asking her to personally invite Chen to the one year anniversary. You begin thinking of what you can give as a gift basket to future cement the relationship with another smaller, technologically advanced nation such as yours. (Give some fun ideas for tech/gifts that she would like for a “bonus”).The final leg of your little trip takes you to Vault 21. While she is expected to work out of the NVD headquarters, the effort to head down there and the fact that most of her affairs keeps her in NV means she works out of her old hotel and casino. She was at first dismayed that once again you were meeting her for business and not pleasure but perked up when she realized you were funding the celebration plans. The only hiccup is because you’ve waited so long (not entirely you’re fault, you tell yourself) that spending the money the month of wouldn’t have much of an effect on foreign tourism. That being said, she can still use the money to give loans to the vendors and run some advertisements, as well as some smaller decorations and theatrics. She does ask you to deploy additional soldiers and Securitrons to all main roads in the region as she’s afraid the increased traffic will attract the worst of the worst. You head back to the Lucky 38 and prepare for the final meeting of the month.
>>6329296So next turn let's have Ulysses teach our intelligence agency the ropes by investigating the Enclave refugees. A simple, low-pressure assignment to get their feet wet. Reminder that we have the advanced Autodocs that can freely change appearance too.>(Give some fun ideas for tech/gifts that she would like for a “bonus”)A Saturnite Knife. (Incidentally, we could totally make use of the existing saturnite at Big MT somehow).Schematics for the intelligence-boosting light arrays (but not the charisma ones).The complete genome map of the Cazadors.A deactivated Hardlight Hologram Emitter.A Brainial Beam Oscillator (which is totally not a Chinese invention)I was going to mention the Toaster again for funsies, but that's actually a bad idea considering they'd interrogate him for everything he knows about Big MT.
>>6329296Oh, I know. One of those Valence Radii Accentuators.
>>6329447Fisto
>>6329447I'm seconding the knife. I don't trust letting anything else out into the world yet.
>>6329447Maybe a ghost harness? If we even have one around. Then again, in Dust that's how the NCR got them spreading beyond the Madre, so maybe not.
>>6329735Oh and talking about the Madre, I wonder if it would be possible to jig the one in the bunker to produce chips for us, given that they're now our national currency?
>>6329735For what it's worth, the Shi are responsible with tech as far as I'm aware and anything we choose to give to them is very unlikely to make its way into OSI's hands, particularly if it's dangerous.>>6329737We already have millions of the things in reserve which is why they got chosen in the first place, we have no need to print more chips.
>>6329737The royal mint of Vegas.... Elijah's former crack house trash bunker
You decide to meet with Garrett, Raul, Gunderson and Lewis away from the Lucky 38 as you’re beginning to feel suffocated in its walls. Instead, this is a good opportunity to tour a new workshop in Freeside which makes clothing from Heck Gunderson’s cattle. The shop itself is a joint venture between him and some new NCR investors.It’s set on the outskirts of Freeside, along a relatively intact road that leads north to one of Heck’s many ranches. When you sent a Securitron asking for a tour, the foreman was all too excited to show The Director around. The workshop is built out from an old office with most of the cubicles and other rubbish thrown out to open up the production floor. On one end, a partially destroyed wall has been opened up even more where fresh hides are brought in and processed by tanners. Once the animal skin is stripped of hair through a lime soak, they are strapped to the inside of a drum and rolled with salt taken from the salt flats around the Mojave. The foreman explains that the original pre-war process had a special chemical involved but it’s not processed anymore. Instead, this still results in usable leather within just four months. And because of the Mojave dry heat, the leather is as good as anywhere in the wasteland. Heck mentions that his father has brought up the possibility of grazing across the river and has already planned on taking heads across the dam. The land isn’t much better but there’s little for them to eat anyway. The five of you are taken to the production side of the workshop where larger, manually-spun sewing machines are set up. The foreman tells you they came from the NCR and weren’t cheap to get out here but increases productivity tenfold and results in sturdier clothing. The foreman even shares his plans to bring cobblers into the building to create shoes as well. Before you and your council depart, he informs you that he can produce the exact same leather armor for cheaper, as long as you buy in bulk. You tell him you’ll keep it in mind and pull your council outside and under some shade. Garrett: That’s a pretty impressive setup, I remember when that shipment of sewing machines came through. Ted downs half of his canteen and wipes his face of sweat. He hands the warm water to Lewis.Gunderson: Is it cheaper to produce it out here than back in the NCR? Clothing can’t weigh that much.
Garrett: Leather is cheap here, relatively. It would be expensive to process the leather here, ship it West and then back here. Lewis: That stuff looked sturdier than what we wear around here, I’d love to give my boys some of the gloves they were making. [That’s why I brought you to the boonies out here, I thought it would be good to see the results of our labor. Our investment helped get them started and they’re producing something for our citizens, the NCR and even the Legion.]Garrett: It remains to be seen how much waste and corruption came from that investment, as well as who will ultimately be able to stay afloat, but the short-term benefits are amazing. [I’ll expect a council report from each one of you next month but for now, how has the RMRP progressed in your views and what else can be done?]Ted: I know we’ve moved past the agricultural aspect of it, but it’s still important to keep an eye on it. It took me a while to realize it but we’re close to our capacity here in the Mojave. There’s not much arable land and it’s just about all claimed now. What grazing land is taken by my father or the few independent ranchers left. There’s still a lot of possibilities to use Lake Mead to fish, farm and hunt but the lakelurks scare people off. Lewis: I’m familiar with phosphate mining, we did a lot of it back in the NCR. I’m not sure if there are sources of potash or potassium-something but that would be a good idea to look into. Ted: Between those toilets at Freeside and the manure from the livestock, we have a good supply of natural manure but that only goes so far. Otherwise, a complete overhaul of the irrigation systems in the Mojave would really go a long way for improved yield. Garrett: I have seen an increased import of farming equipment, how has that helped? Ted: A lot, but there’s a limit for hand tools. If we can start providing the larger farms with mechanized equipment, or even quality plows and draft animals, that’s another way to squeeze out everything we can from the land. I guess that’s my input, the easy food is done and now we need to start thinking creatively. [Thanks, Ted. Keep me apprised of any dramatic changes. Who’s next?]Raul: I have something, boss. I don’t have an answer on what we can do about the roads yet but I think we can work with the Postmaster to build more stops along the way. Some people have opened roadside rest stops on the busier routes but that’s a way to make traveling safer. Otherwise, we should try to fix up more of those rails through here. They cover most of the desert and it would be easier than fixing up roads and building cars.
Garrett: The NCR had started that here before you kicked them out. I remember serving a few of their rail workers during a stay in Freeside. Those convicts did the grunt work and the rest came in to lay track. Everything came from the NCR so it was expensive and slow-going though. Lewis: I remember that, some of my boys got poached by the damn rail men. Paid really well too. We could do that, but it takes a lot of work to clear the land, set the rock and gravel and then lay the track. You wanna do it well too, or else you’re asking for your train to jump right off the rail. [We also need a working locomotive though there are plenty of old rail cars scattered around. We’ll keep that in mind, especially if we can get some experts from the NCR out here. What else?]Lewis: Sloan is running as well as can be expected and the concrete is being stored until you decide how to use it. We could sell it on the market, I suppose. The gold mine is almost complete and we’ll know the yield soon. We can get that melted down but I don’t know if that helps us with this RMRP thing. You can turn gold into money and buy things so if you use that to bring in more tools and machines, I see the point. That’s my view, start tapping what resources we have here and buy the rest. Garrett: We can do that for sure, but we don’t have sources of everything here. I won’t get into specifics but our goal here should be triple-pointed. We access what natural resources we have to lower prices and open industry to develop naturally, while we import everything else. Second, we work on supporting this industry and economy to grow by improving infrastructure, increasing safety and offering room for growth for both the person and the business. Finally, we focus on increasing technological progress in every part of the NVD. This is the most expensive speaking from experience. Companies won’t gamble with new technologies or techniques and we all know there aren’t any universities out here so it’s up to the government to develop and implement technology. Out of all of your Secretaries, Francine has perhaps impressed you the most. Not only does she have a good business acumen but strategic thinking rarely seen in the wastes. [I think we’ll call it here. Keep up the good work and keep Ulysses or I aware of any developments.]Your secretaries head back to Freeside and you gaze out across the ruins of outer Vegas, wondering what it will look like a decade from now. You put those thoughts in a box and close it for now because it’s time to hunt a wolf.
very good
You had to look in a few regional maps to find where Ash Fork was, and even then, it was little more than a blip in the vast sea of desert that was Arizona. Now, it’s deep Legion territory. Caesar wanted this done quietly and you agree, knowing that he will still be heavily guarded and you’ll be far from home. Thankfully, you just finished repairing the Mk ll Stealth Suit which should give you unmatched capability in Legion land. Your loadout is similar to what you’ve taken elsewhere, including a standard wasteland outfit and cloak to hide your gear. You have Sleepytime, Christine’s CoS rifle, a modified and suppressed 10MM position and Chance’s Knife. You’re also bringing a healthy mix of grenades, flashbangs and C4, because you can never have enough explosives. You finish packing with food and water. You’re not sure how your exfil will look and you don’t want to walk back to New Vegas while living off the land. You inform Ulysses that you will be gone for up to a week and while he’s curious, he doesn’t ask.It’s a short trip to McCarran where you board your Vertibird and head East. During the couple of hours of flight time, you reflect on the Caesar situation at large. You’re killing Vulpes for many reasons, namely that it will weaken Caesar more than help and Sallow himself “asked” this of you. But you need to begin to think of the stability of The Legion. While you’re increasingly playing with the idea of succeeding Edward and reforming his Legion to your own doing, that’s years away at best. Even if the Legion were to collapse in on itself, you still have the NVD. What worries you is if the Legion falls before the NCR exhausts itself. You accept that no matter who is President, the bear’s eyes will turn back to New Vegas. This is the delicate power balance you must maintain. Or not, you still haven’t actually made up your mind on the whole thing. While that may horrify others, you’re nothing if not confident in yourself. *bzlt* FIVE MINUTES TO INSERTION *crzt*Daisy’s robotic voice comes through the speakers, waking you from your sleep. It seems you fell asleep while ruminating on the state of geopolitical affairs. You hoist your legs off of your pack and shake your body out. You had her land a few hours walk from Ash Fork just in case someone sees the Vertibird. During the month, Raul helped get a small radio working and you set it up to communicate with Daisy’s Vertibird while you’re in the field. Power armor comes with it built in but you’re traveling light and quiet this time. You step off from the Vertibird into the swirling sand and into the cold desert night. Daisy’s bird rises back into the sky and heads back West. Your radio won’t reach Vegas but she knows to return to this area in a week’s time. If you’re gone any longer than that, the mission has probably gone tits up. You give a quick once over on your gear and begin the trek south to Ash Fork.
>>6331109>Time for nothing but nat 1's and more viral outbreaks.
>>6331109>We're wearing the stealth suit againThe real waifu was at our side the whole time.
>>6331109>You accept that no matter who is President, the bear’s eyes will turn back to New Vegas.Okay, so House's plan to keep Vegas independent from the NCR hinged largely on having an unstoppable army of robots. Odds are we're going to have to go the same route unless we want to at best end up like the Shi. Although in a way I guess we don't actually have to be able to take on the entire NCR, we only have to present a harder and less appealing target than whatever's left after the Legion falls apart.Incidentally I'd like to at some point expand northward and claim at least a reasonable portion of Nevada for ourselves, so we have resources and space to grow into as we pursue technological progress. Don't want world domination or anything, just enough resources to do as we please without worrying overmuch about dangers outside our borders.
>>6331301There's still that depot up north full of power armour and other goodies too. We should try figuring out a way to nab that, or cheat the NCR out of it. Maybe claim we need an isolated prison area for our convicts and buy the irradiated town for cheap.
>>6331301>House's planThat and playing some politics/influence inside the NCR. The problem of course, is that the RMRP and making Securitrons wasn't really as easy as House thought. The RMRP we are doing is not his original one for once. And House didn't bother to consider other aspects unlike us.For us in regard to NCR, what we are doing so far is pretty good. Slowly developing our military while, playing the economic/politics game and the one of influence with Vegas and our radio is the best defense. Personally, the probably easiest option for now is at least making an equivalent NVD Border Station in front of the NCR Mojave Border one. Its something that was thought before in the past threads, but never done do to obvious reasons (money, no military units, overstretched securitrons, other problems etc..). This would create a defensive choke point that can be expanded upon.In regard to the Legion it will be still a problem even if it cracks in a civil war, which looks like its walking towards that (with what the young legion general PoV show us and Caesar own large purge plans something gonna break. Their war with the NCR is not getting results either, and the 2nd Hoover Dam defeat must sting). Successor states would still have Legion characteristics so they all would want to reunite the legion under them and then go west. If Caesar proclaims us his heir publicly we would also have an issue of being involved in said civil war, unless we refuse to be heir.>World dominationI don't think there has never been an issue with expansion, is just difficult to do right now due to having to make something stable out of the NVD first. We lack still some basics for most of our settlements too.>>6331315Hawthorne ? Thats going to be problematic to do. We can't afford a direct attack, we want trade and tourism. Maybe a false raider one (though i don't think we or our men want to do anything raiders do), or another night stealth attack. Political option of acquiring it i am not sure would be considered, the NCR did return to sit their ass there for get that all that stuff.>isolated prison areai think they would just point out at the prison we already have for that.
Working on next post, going to wait until I’m home to post since it uses (text features) As an aside, I have started a new job so if posts seem more staggered or pace slower, that’s why. Don’t expect it to stay like that, just trying to find a good rhythm again.
You make quick time and camp outside of the small town for a few hours before sunrise. You were just told to meet a Praetorian agent inside of Ash Fork so you’re assuming he’ll be easy to find. Perhaps an outpost or office for the area. You look on the map again, it sits right on I-40 that leads directly to NCR territory so you’re also expecting heavy Legion presence. The night passes quickly and the cold desert night is quickly replaced by a warming morning. In the distance, you can see a herd of cattle being led up the gentle slope to graze on the brush and dry grass. This is pretty good herding land, better than in the Mojave at least. You finger the Mark of Caesar you received when you traveled to do his surgery. With that in hand, you pack up and head down to Ash Fork. The town is busier than its small stature would reveal. Wisps of smoke rise from multiple houses and buildings while the small figures of Legion citizenry scurry around even this early. Walking into town reveals a much larger military presence than you expected, with most either directing or assisting in construction of defenses in and around Ash Fork. Could the front be much closer than you thought?You approach what you know to be a Decanus. [red] Hail, citizen. Show me your pass. [/red]You’re not sure what pass he’s talking about, but you pull out your Mark. His eyes light up and he snatches it out of your hand. The Legion officer turns it over multiple times and grunts. [red]”I apologize. How may I assist you?”[/red]He hands the Mark back and you place it back around your neck. [I need to speak with a Praetorian here in town.]He looks like he’s about to ask for clarification but thinks better of it. Instead, he nods. [red]”Of course, follow me and I’ll take you to Praetorian Magistrate Olivio Felix.”[/red]The Decanus spins on his heels and marches further into town. As you follow, it’s clear that Ash Fork was a major hub before, and now it’s being readied for war. Barricades are being erected in the streets and teams of slaves work with draft animals to haul wreckage from one place to another. The interesting thing is that the town doesn’t look ready to evacuate, rather more and more supplies are flowing in through military caravans. Any attempts to make small talk is met with polite but firm grunts and silence. You don’t have long to think about the implications before you and your guide arrive at an old school, now being transformed into a citadel. The windows on the bottom floor have been sealed with cement, leaving small firing holes.
>>6331666(IP changed somehow so fuck me sideways. You guys can fill in the blanks)
It reminds you of that school the 80’s used in Indian Springs, but here the efficiency of the Legion is on display. Hardpoints equipped with heavy machine guns and recoilless rifles cover firing angles and you spot a few infantry mortars sitting in dugouts surrounded by sand bags. It’s not what you saw at Fortification Hill before the Second Battle of Hoover, but it’s intimidating. The two of you approach Legionary guards at the front door of the school before one salutes and steps forward. [red]”Legionary Maximus, please escort him to Praetorian Magistrate Felix. Do not dally, he bears the Mark of Caesar.”[/red]Your new guide’s eyes bulge at the mention of your Mark but he does not comment. He salutes the Decanus and ushers you in. Much like his superior, Maximus doesn’t speak but looks you up and down multiple times as he leads you through the hallways of their headquarters. Old classrooms are turned into barracks, storage rooms and armories, while a quick walk by the massive gymnasium reveals a hospital filled with the injured, sick and dying. With what you know of Legion medicine, you suspect it’s much of the latter. Your wandering eyes are brought to another set of guards. Even for the legion, this seems excessive. [red]Maximus: Legionary Grippa, this man bears Caesar’s Mark and is here to see the Preatorian.[/red]The two exchange quick pleasantries and depart before you’re led into a windowless office with papers, books and scrolls scattered haphazardly. In the middle of the bureaucratic mess is a small, middle-aged man wearing the familiar outfit of a Praetorian, though more adorned with precious metal. Your (hopefully) last guide salutes as the man stands up from behind his desk.[red]Felix: Legionary Grippa, I told you I was not to be disturbed unless we were under attack.[/red][red]Grippa: I apologize Magistrate, but this traveler bears the Mark of Caesar and is here to see you[/red]The Praetorian’s look of anger is replaced by understanding. [red]Felix: Ah, my apologies, Legionary. You may return to your duties.[/red]Felix salutes back and the young soldier hurriedly leaves the office. [red]Please, come take a seat.[/red] You look at the only other chair in the office which is buried under a proverbial mountain of paperwork. [red]You can just move that stuff to the side.[/red]You’re not going to do that. [I don’t think I’ll be here long. I assume you’ve been told why I’m in Legion territory?][red]Before we begin, may I see your Mark? Can never be too careful.[/red]You take the medallion off from around your neck and hand it over once again. And once again, it’s looked over thoroughly. Olivio even goes so far as to bite it gently to test its strength. He seems satisfied and hands it back to you before flopping back down into his chair. [red]So you’re the man who kicked us out of New Vegas, huh?[/red]He looks you up and down.
>>6331669>So you’re the man who kicked us out of New Vegas, huh?We prefer the term "forcibly relocated"
>>6331667I do not wish to fuck you sideways QMI wish to fuck face to face in the missionary position for sole purpose of procreation
>>6331997Hot
>>6331997You can't fuck the QM, His male.
>>6332017What about his male? I'll fuck him too
[I suppose so. Yet I’m here, so what does that say?]“That in Caesar’s infinite wisdom, he has seen fit to bring you into the fold instead of making you for death. It’s not my place.”[Let’s get on with it. Caesar has a mission for me and I was told to meet a Praetorian here to receive further information. I’m assuming that’s you?]He spins around in his chair and begins rummaging through the endless stacks of paper. “Where is…not there…maybe….what about….hmmm…oh yeah!”He plucks an innocuous folder out from an unremarkable stack and hands it to you. The folder bears no marking or any indication to what it contains.[This seems…oddly insecure for what it allegedly contains.]Your contact just shrugs. “It’s less likely to be found if it’s not labeled ‘Do not Read’.”Well you can’t argue with that logic. “I haven’t opened it, by the way. The less I know the better, and I already know too much. Since I can’t answer any of your questions, I think this is where we depart.”It took you longer to move through the school than you’ve been here in this office. [Alright, thanks I guess.]Olivio begins scribbling things down on one of the hundreds of pieces of paper on his desk. You suddenly feel very claustrophobic. “Don’t thank me, not for what you’re being asked to do. There’s a caravan leaving for Aqualeia, it may be useful for you. Good luck, may the glory of Caesar follow, etc etc.”That seems to be the conversation over and you tuck the folder into your pack. You’ll read it later, far away from any prying eyes. You’re led out of the school the opposite direction this time, being dumped out back where you have a view of an old field. You can hardly make out an old oval track that a platoon of Legionaries are running on, while others do calisthenics or train on stacks of tires and timber set up off to the side.
[Legionary, is there some place quiet where I can get a drink?]Grippa thinks for a moment before pointing semi-East. “Marcus’ Tavern is where I go. But who knows what other shitholes have sprung up.”He leaves without letting you respond, leaving you overlooking the Legion training grounds. You’re not sure when this caravan leaves but if there’s any place to get the local schedule, a bar is a good pick. You make the short trip through Ash Fork taking stock of the Legion activity. You don’t feel a sense of fear in the air, but this place is obviously being prepared for a long battle. Fat chance of getting information from anyone nearby but you keep this in mind as you arrive at Marcus’.To his credit, Grippa suggested a pretty tolerable place to pour over these documents. There’s a handful of Legion soldiers and officers scattered around but you find a corner lit by candle light. After ordering a local grog called “Steady Brew”, you pull the folder out and begin reading. The document highlights Inculta Vulpe’s character and habits. Unsurprisingly, he’s incredibly unpredictable and it’s nearly impossible to craft a schedule for him. He doesn’t dine with the same people, nor does he eat the same food. The intel document does mention he is in Aquaelia for the time being as he coordinates Frumentarii actions in the NCR. His main office is at the Legion regional headquarters and rarely strays from there and his private quarters at an officers billet just a few blocks away. The only other information of importance is the insistence that this must be done quietly and if possible, to look like an accident. It seems that even Caesar must be careful in ordering his top lieutenants to death. You finish your drink which, admittedly, is better than the average swill in Freeside, and ask the cute hostess about the departing caravan. To your luck, it leans in just an hour so you pay your tab and head to the commons. It’s similar to other Legion towns you’ve visited but the military presence is much more extensive. The market is full of home-made clothing, trinkets and approved scrap. You waste time presuming but soon you latch onto the end of the caravan and find yourself on the way to the Legion town that was formerly Prescott. >1d100, BO3
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>6332084
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>6332084lets if I remember again
>>6332087>>6332090Care anon, we almost summoned /pol/ kek
>>6332091I've always been here anon. You can never escape the /pol/locks.
Rolled 52 (1d100)>>6331997Lewd Rolling against anons
Rolled 4 (1d100)>>6332084
>>6332105I was real worried when I rolled and now I know why.
>>6332017Don't worry I have postage>>6332096Stop rolling so high QMKnowing our luck we'll get a nat 1 and House will come back with Liberty Prime prototype with Muggy at the helm
>>6332184>"Oh don't look so surprised, surely you didn't think you were the only one capable of playing the game? The Brotherhood was terribly obstinate until I laid out a few key secrets of theirs, then they couldn't fulfill my requests quickly enough. As expected, their vaunted, high-handed ideals only lasted until it began to hurt. But enough rambling, I believe Muggy has a few things he's always wanted to say to you..."
