Why are most men these days lonely?
Jewish dating apps unironically
why are you asking here, ask normies why they all instantly hate me and want to get rid of me for no reason
Because capitalism and globalism is poison to the soul but women thrive because they themselves are commodities ready to be purchased and consumed
There's no sex anymore unless you're handsome. Girls want a committed man but keep falling for the lies these fuckboy top 20% of men say to them on online dating apps. Don't give you labour to society...you're only benefiting women. If men aren't needed anymore, then we do not need to work.
>>82341697Many reasons, mainly due to women's unrealistic standards, women having jobs, annoying feminist woke lib propaganda being shoved down our throats, and misandry
>just go cuddle and make friends with men like us girls do with each other...that's why men are lonely...they don't have close friendships with each otherWhat do you think when women in feminist forums respond like this?
It's because you don't ever go out, don't have a job (and it can't be any job...it must be an exciting, progressive job). Meanwhile the jobless single mothers can get laid within 24 hours.
>>82341806I go out and I have an interesting, highly paid job and none of it matters because I'm ugly.
>>82341697women are not worth it too much yap not enough gag
>>82341697Some streamer called King Cobra acked himself or ODd earlier this week. He was a total sperg substitute addicted loser and not the least bit attractive yet he had girlfriends and got laid. If he was able to do it, there is no excuse for most of you, and dont give me the they only want Chad blah blah blah etc. And who the fuck is this Chad anyhow. Is he like Bigfoot, often talked about but never really seen.
It's just a course correction.
>>82341789i think that legalising homosexuality was a mistake and letting foids into male spaces was a double mistake
>>82341997wow patriarchy sounds intelligent and progressive and egalitarians sound retarded and regressive
>>82341997Women say this even though in Western countries intelligence is going down. They also select for violent criminals so they can stop pretending that they know anything about subpar genetics
>>82341697I'm pretty sure I would be lonely regardless of conditions simply due to my nature and appearance. I'm one of God's defective creations.
men are pretty much useless now in modernity. i can live without anyone else in my life and buy whatever i want. why even bother with a man? he's just going to be another consumer
>>82342302You can think that but when you are old and feel unfulfilled regardless of whatever money you have, you will regret not having children
>>82341697there's literally nothing to live for on a deeper level, there's no sense of national pride or identity, family is dead, religion is dead, you have to wageslave for the rest of your life
>>82342500maybe i already do
>>82341737Wow. You're actually right
>>82341697Porn ruined a lot of these men, to be fair. They wouldn't really relate to many people who could cure their "loneliness" and they would hate to spend time with other porn addicts.
>>82341697most? it's like 10% max. this is bad, but yes, you are not normal.
>>8234343510% of men admit to being virgins after 30 which is an increase from 4% about 8 years ago. The number of "virgin" women also increased but less proportionally (5% to 7%).Birth rates are still declining, it's becoming a growing problem as women force themselves into a career they hate but get money from, their lack of purpose outside of their "career" will cause them to sink into hedonism instead of having kids with a non-Chad.Letting women work began this shit
>>82341697no more arranged marriges for losers
>>82343600Women select for low iq criminalsCope
>>82343610That's because they have a BBC.
>>82343610Why do you think those women are worth your time?
>>82343600arranged marriages ended like 100 years ago you dumb fuck
>>82341697because men try to be productive members of society and women just want the best of the best and absolute monsters, nothing in between. women are retarded, and people are becoming more retarded by default. women's freedom ruined everything.
People are becoming more retardedJust look at this fucking idiot >>82343641
>>82341697It's cause the internet is training young men to have no social skills and be mesmerized with the next bakugan/yugioh/pokemon craze.
>>82343639Which is a good thing since it prevented loser genes from spreading.
>>82343657Funny how you don't mention Tik Tok and Instagram fry women's attention spans and social skills too. Women can do no wrong, right?
>>82343660>loser genes>start of the industrial revolution which has led to you complaining about those men today on your deviceAccording to women you're a loser just if you're ugly. This is why we will never actually progress as a society
>>82343697It fries women's self esteem and ability to solve problems, but relatively speaking women are far more social still and that should not be the case. Women are supposed to be more passive socially. If you are waiting for women to make moves or lead discussions, you are even more feminine than the woman. But yes social media absolutely wrecks many women who fall into depression and loneliness over how they look or some ideological bullshit like veganism or feminism.
>>82343650eat shit, nothing i said was retarded, kill yourself
>>82343703i see ugly men with girlfriends all the time. don't talk about progress while using a device, retard.
>>82341697why do you keep making this thread trying to force this narrative
>>82343721i do too, its because women are retarded and like to fuck absolute monsters because it pisses other men off. women would rather make men angry than be in actual love, because they're absolutely retarded.
>>82343712>women are far more social still and that should not be the caseSocial to other women and Chads>Women are supposed to be more passive sociallyAnd your mom is supposed to have my balls in her mouth>If you are waiting for women to make moves or lead discussions, you are even more feminine than the woman.They do it with Chad, only beta males are expected to do the humiliation ritual
>>82343732>other>menpick one.
>>82343722they're not forcing any narrative, the vast majority of men are seriously ignored because women are retarded hateful assholes without male control.
>>82343721>i see ugly men with girlfriends all the time.Wow buddy that's cool, that means every ugly guy is pulling 10/10s right? Fuck off with your retarded anecdote faggot>don't talk about progress while using a device, retard.That doesn't make any sense you foreign dipshit
>>82343738you're so retarded i don't even understand what you're asking. women like to fuck ugly men because it pisses average men off. there shouldn't be any questions to that, its simple as fuck.
>>82341697you're not really allowed to talk about it. think of the responses in this thread - they'd all get you fucked up unless you were ready to go if you said them out loud for real and weren't willing to take back what you said. That's why men are lonely OP.
>>82343751You're getting baited very obviously. Or it's an actual retard
>>82343736>Social to other women and ChadsIf a woman is more socially active than you, you cannot be considered a real man unfortunately.>And your mom is supposed to have my balls in her mouthNobody was talking about balls.>They do it with Chad, only beta males are expected to do the humiliation ritualIf they do it while you watch porn, you are a cuckold in a humiliation ritual.
>>82343751>women select ugly menso they aren't losers. are you actually retarded?
>>82343777what the fuck are you even trying to say? no, ugly men arent losers because retarded women like to fuck ugly guys. thats exactly what im saying, whats so hard to understand about that? kill yourself retard.
>>82343791>like to fuck ugly guysso then they aren't even losers. are you a fucking retard?
>>82341997Women will say shit like this and then be confused why more and more men are becoming anti feminist, they genuinely can't piece it together.
>>82341757This is the correct take. My nw is 2 million and I spoil and praise 300 pound women. I have ruined 3 so far this year. I am part of the problem. I am a 6 or 6.5 but I spend thousands on 2s
>>82343825I do the opposite for the most part. I find extremely rich supermodels and then just have sex with them and then dump them. It makes them extra mad because I'm ugly balding and short.
>>82343809This isn't feminist this is just blatant misandry, from a lesbian nonetheless
>>82341997Would she say this about George Floyd?>>82343621That isn't good genetics, will that cure cancer? It may feel good but ultimately does nothing for the advancement of our race.>>82343627Hey dipshit it's most women (at least a sizeable chunk), 95% of men chasing a minority of women is a problem
>>82343953By minority of women I mean the ones that actually don't favor just Chads and criminals, so don't even try to twist my words
Im lonely because god has been giving me what he calls a training course for heaven. He forbids any interactions with women. He violently rapes and assaults me every day over and over without ever stopping. He talks to me. I havent had sex for 14 years. It seems my body actually is trash though, which just adds to the question. Hes really been hurting me a lot though, like for example he has been turning my dick purple every day by crushing it with rocks basically. He bruises my dick. Every single day. Tomorrow, my dick will also be purple again. Its a type of torture which exhausts you mentally. To know your dick will be getting mutiliated again tomorrow. The women in my town dont appear to have souls, they have been repeatedly stinging my head every time I go outside to get food. They speak to me and say words which feel similar to getting stung in the head by a wasp. I am not free from this at home, my neighbours talk to me through my walls. They have sex in front of me every night and force me to hear them moaning with pleasure, while I am raped and strangled.
>>82343953>advancement of our race.if they are the best of our society, then obviously it does advance the race.
>>82344001>when the government begins draining money and scientific progress is halted is actually good for societyNice bait, final (you) unfortunately though
>>82344025>muh shekels>muh vaccinesShut the fuck up you fucking retard.
>>82344025Not to mention a sizeable crime increase
>>82341721This when a woman has all the attention she ever wants on her finger tips, why would she ever give some to guy next to her
>>82344072Because nobody uses dating apps. The guy next to her already getting laid.
>>82341697I'm worth shit
>>82344083>Nobody uses dating appsObjectively not true
>>82341757They'll just import browns who will kill you and rape them
>>82341737That's lowkey a funny way to look at it but not wrong. Although calling the modern "capitalist" is a little like calling modern china "communist"
>>82344108Have you actually ever met someone who has used dating apps? What would even be the point of going on your phone when you can just meet people directly?
>>82344207>Have you actually ever met someone who has used dating apps?Yes many that I went to school with lmao. What kind of retarded ass argument is that?
>>82344244Nobody was arguing. It's just facts.
>>82344260You are either really dumb or a good baiter
>>82344268Are you the retard who said "what kind of argument is [a simple question]?"
>>82341697>why are men lonely>how are men lonely>when are men lonely >what men are lonely>where are the men that are lonely You could answer all of these questions and be just as likely to get a girlfriend today. The short answer is that none of it matters. >>82341757No, this is even better for us to continue working. There is a thing called the pink tax. Women don't know shit about fuck. You can overcharge them for anything and they won't argue with it because the money is coming from their parents or from chad. A few months ago I heard a story about a millennial woman paying over $300 just to get her car battery changed at a shop. I clapped my hands with laughter
>>82344207Yes. Women hop on dating apps when they get bored, like how guys pull out their phones and play clash royale or gamble.
>>82344207Yeah a guy friend has been using one since 2023. He gets no matches and yet he tells me he's got to "shoot his shot". Yeah fuck that dating apps sound like suicide fuel to me. I'm this >>82344072 anon btw
>>82344303>The global sports betting market is valued at approximately $119 billion in 2025>The global online dating market was valued between approximately $9 billion and $11 billion>A survey done of college students in the U.S. reveals 79% of respondents do not use dating apps regularlyyikes
>>82344274>anti-incel already resorting to bad faith tacticsYou people are so fucking pathetic
>>82341697Had to abandon all of my old friends on account of them being pathetic losers. Cant rely on my family because they arent great, either. Free housing, which is nice to have, but thats pretty much it. Every woman I meet is just..not dateable. Their body counts are too high, or they want me to a libtard cuck, or they have a victim complex, or they want to turn me into their sugar daddy. I find others in general to be just..very disappointing, but Im not going to settle for inferior people. They can fuck off, Im gonna keep looking for the good ones.
>>82344337That's because the sports betting is more expensive to get into you fucking retardThe private jet industry is probably more globally valued than counterstrike, that doesn't mean there are more people with private jets than there are people who play counterstrike Are you old enough to use this website?
>>82344325What kind of brain disorder does he have? Shooting your shot is only something you can do in person, when you are actually interacting with them. Looking at photos of a girl is as much shooting a shot as watching a sports game.
>>82341697jews, thats why. They gave women rights and specual privleges and women showed ther true colours. They are only attracted to the top 1% of the male population. And because they can get high paying jobs, get abortions whenever they want etc they dnt need to rely on a man. >>82341757You need to keep working. Build your wealth and become ungovernable. If you opt out(which is what they want) they wont miss you. Theyll just replaced you with a DEI hire. >>82341997Thats right it was, and theres nothing wrong with that. Every man deserves a legacy. Women need to shutup.
>>82344351It's because nobody cares about online dating you fucking retard. Not for entertainment, and certainly not for dating. The concept adds zero value to society, even less than sports betting. You fucking retard.
>>82343833Must be nice! I have a fat girl addiction and I cannot resist them. It is a nightmare.
>>82344337>The global sports betting marketYou mean one of the oldest and most money-generating markets?>The global online dating marketMost apps have free plans. No shit it generates less money>A survey done of college students in the U.S. reveals 79% of respondents do not use dating apps regularlyNice cherrypicked stat, someone else thoroughly went through that survey and pointed that out on here. Are you the same idiot from before who got all of your sources destroyed?
>>82344376>You mean one of the oldest and most money-generating markets?Something many men actually do with their free time!>Most apps have free plans. No shit it generates less moneyYeah, no fucking shit you moron.>pointed that out on hereIt was definitely pointed out on here.
>>82344361Multiple recent surveys have shown that many people use dating apps now. You're actually such a coper and you're so desperate to debunk le evil incels that you're reusing the same cherrypicked surveys that you got absolutely BTFO on.
>>82344395>incelsWhat does this have to do with incels? If you are using "dating apps" successfully, by definition you are not an incel.
>>82344389>Yeah, no fucking shit you moron.Then why even bring it up if that's the entire explanation? Are you actually do emotionally invested into a 4chan argument that you're flailing to get any one-up on people?
>>82344406I already explained it to you, there wasn't even an argument.
>>82344410Why am I even responding to your bad faithery
>>82344414Using autism words doesn't help your case.
>>82344352I don't know probably the same one that makes us browse /r9gay/. All I know is this dude has never had a girlfriend in his life. Never. I can see why he'd be desperate enough to use dating apps but whatever
>>82344421People do really strange things in spite of having literally unlimited access to information. When I was "desperate" I was spending all my free time talking to girls and flirting and trying to do anything to keep hanging out. The literal last thing on my mind was "hmm let me look at my fucking phone for a bit"
>>82344337>>82344376For an explanation that survey had a pretty small sample size compared to other surveys on this topic, the question asked is not the same as the claim that's being made (that 79% don't use them regularly), and a large percentage of the sample was not single.
>>82344432Surveys don't actually mean anything anyway. The sample size is never big enough.
>>82341997>if women were naturally submissive, why aren't they submitting to men?It's interesting to think about. I think women are so submissive they are like jellies that take the shape of anything that contains them. Who among any western feminist has actually came to a feminist girlboss conclusion on her own agency alone? Likewise, the so-called "trad-wives," who among them contain women who, from childhood, weighed the rationales for the aforementioned paths and decided that the virtues and lifestyle of this one or the other was better, and continued shaping her identity from there? I think the female brain doesn't usually ruminate on these things. It's more likely that she's adept at blending in to the average group and copying what she sees other girls doing, until she can get the gist of whatever masculine command gives her a sense of direction. It just so happens that the most fatherly thing in this woman's life was the obese jewish single mother feminist in her middle school, and this continues along for her entire educational ride until she's unleashed onto the world at 22. Now she's making tiktoks fancying herself an evolutionary biologist. It's cute, kinda. I would have a lot of fun brainwashing and frustrating her.But really, she's just the exact same fundamentally submissive and impressionable creature that the so-called tradwives are, the pagan Teuton women who mass-suicided themselves rather than be unfaithful to their defeated men, the muslims you see wearing burkas, the african women who swear that they should have a right for female genital mutilation for themselves. The Chinese women in antiquity who bound their own feet. A radical jewish feminist is the exact same elemental force of nature that these nazi German women in picrel are. All women serve a husband. That's where her agency lies and her instincts seek out a husband to serve and a child to raise. These concepts obviously can be manipulated and contrived through abstraction.
>>82344436I was reading into that pew study on how "60% of young men are single" and they only surveyed like 300 guys who were mostly 18 years old lol. They could only find 180 single young men in the entire country, and we have redditor incels who think that being single is somehow normal. I don't know anyone over the age of 22 who would consider themselves "single" for any meaningful length of time.
>>82344447No you retard, it's just that being submissive to one man does not mean being submissive to all men. How does any wild animal get tamed? By someone fucking taming it.
>>82341697Expectations of both men and women. Plus capitalism is making jobs harder making it difficult to come home and work on the house
>>82344467If it was capitalism you could just create your own job. We live in a socialist economy which is why you can't find a job.
>>82344463Yes, in addition, you can be captured by and submit yourself to concepts, ideologies, ideas, books, philosophies etc. This one ITT has taken up her role as a priestess in the cult of feminism and thus weds herself to that church, the same way we'd consider a Christian nun "wedded to Christ." In fact I argued that she was actually a child-bride to the cult of feminism from the start, and we can use the fact that she is dutifully and obediently submitting to the role as evidence. >How does any wild animal get tamed? By someone fucking taming it.This is not the same mechanism. We're talking about humans here, you know. Unless you actually retrieved your wife from a jungle, like a genderbent Mowgli or Tarzan, then I suppose you can make this analogy.
>>82344427Yeah I agree but what do expect from people on this age of smartphones and jewish apps? You know it's funny I tried to help that guy as a wingman man once. He still couldn't get the girl. I should have gone full measure and make him look like a hero by being a villain to the girl he loved. Oh well..
Wow, so much originality. I don't think /r9k/ has ever been this creative in making good, original content.
>>82344509I got my wife from the jungles of modern feminism but it was actually pretty easy. Women, as it turns out, just want to be treated like women.
>>82344536You got your wife after she's has over 30 different cocks in her, now she's just settling for you and using you while she thinks about sex with Chad and Tyrone while you defend her on the internet
>>82344450>They could only find 180 single young men in the entire countryJesus there's no way you actually think that
>>82344535Its just jew bullshit, same on /pol/ >Whites need to apologise>Lol why are whites to pathetic>Jews are the dominat race>If jews are shit shit then why do they control the world?
>>82344550You say this yet here i am 32 and a virgin and yes i inow so many women like this. Just treat a plain woman right and you'll be golden. Thats what my dad did and 14 years later my mom has noxvtp2t movied on
>>82344436No, it's just that some surveys are better than others
It goes beyond just dating.Even if you get a GF you will still be lonely, because every interaction you have as a man with woman or anyone that isn't also a man, will be transactional and you as an instrument.You can get a GF and even get married, she can even say she super loves you and you can be the tallest most jacked gigachad, but ultimately you will just be an object. there is an entire field of weaponized therapy speak language that woman know how to apply to extract from you labor, chores, emotional support and such. If you complain about this anywhere it usually ends up twisted that in a way, its the patriarchy that makes her so abusive and inconsiderate of you, and the remedy for this patriarchy that is harming you apparently, is to do more things for her and others.... curious. Simply put, in society we dehumanize men to the point that the only way to survive is just to accept no one else actually sees you as anything but a tool, so take what you can and stop thinking about others. Just become the monster they say you are, or the alternative is you are turned into a slave.
>>82344536That's not "taming a wild animal," in actuality (if we take what you implied to be true) you married a divorcee, and stepfathered her baggage. >Women, as it turns out, just want to be treated like women.Lmao. Women, as it turns out, will get treated like women by life itself, regardless of what any suitor who comes along thinks he's doing. >>82344550This could very well be true, but Anon has stepped up and shouldered that albatross with her. So what if she's a former priestess or acolyte in a cult? Cucks exist in all forms.>>82344577Oh yeah I bet there are a lot of women with their hymens intact at the age of 32 but I would bet my life on them being spiritually wedded to takeout food
>>82344624I only know fat bitches. Because i myself is a fat bitch. Many who lost thier virginity lost them to other women. If they didnt they Became "agendered"
>>82344635Am I a fucking esper or something? Is this clairvoyance?
>>82341997shes right But women select for tall violent Low IQ menwill only set humanity backwards now that smart manlets cant breed and will either rope or get killed before they can contribute to society
>>82344654Maybe. Are toy spiritually connected to me? Enough to knock me up?
>>82344711I'm female so I couldn't possibly.
>>82341972>And who the fuck is this Chad anyhow. Is he like Bigfoot, often talked about but never really seen.They're the guys fucking your girl and others girl on the down low while not paying a cent for coochie because women desire him, while only tolerating you and men like you for the money. Whenever you hear women say men are easy they literally mean its easy to pretend to love us to get us to simp for them. While this doesn't work on chad, chad has options and has seen like an incel the absolute vile side of these women who portray themselves as innocent princesses who need to be saved. Players are right about women, incels are right about women, the only differences is that a player has the looks and status to attract women and the wisdom to pretend women aren't that retarded by agreeing with them that offing their unborn and still expected to be treated well as if they are not like an entitled brat gets you past the filter to fuck a slut. And news flash anon, if you don't think the innocent woman you crushed on isn't one, you simply weren't chad because you would know.
>>82341997Wow women have really gone blackpill legitimizing huh? If only it was required for women to post their ai male form same height and all like that one chopped man epidemic hapa slut then there would be balance in the world.
>>82344207>when you can just meet people directlyYou dont meet people directly. Women dont want to interact with random people that they havent picked. Litterally most couples meet on daying apps. You cant meet anywhere else anyway.>>82344083>The guy next to her already getting laid.Lmao no
>>82341697I know why I'm lonely. It's because i'm fucking autistic, retarded and have low self esteem. It's partly my own fault. When girls showed interest in me, I either rejected them because I don't feel comfortable with myself or I just fucked it up so bad. I cannot be helped
>>82341789I think it is just ignorance about how male bonding and socialisation worked. If you cuddled your friend just like that, you'd have one friend less
>>82341997She is partly right. She is right in that religions were structured to ensure that everyone could pair up. But she is wrong about everything else. Firstly, before monogamy and marriage, certain men would hoard women. Not necessarily the tall handsome men that women loved, but simply the men who possessed power. The conquerors. Women did not choose who got to breed. Men had to war for the right to have heirs. There were not enough women around and stealing women was a normal custom. Women were seen and used as a commodity, as a resource, like cattle. This was the ancient past, a savage time in were higher civilisation was not possible. Then we created marriage. It was an ancient pact that other men may not steal another's women. Then we started to practice monogamy so that every man can have a woman. Of course, for the nobility, this often didn't apply, but it was the norm for the masses. This got need of the need for perpetual warring and fighting. This meant that civilisation could advance beyond a primitive stateWomen were the ones to benefit the most out of these agreements, not just men. They could be seen as more than cattle to be tradedA woman's sexual selection is not weeding out "subpar" genetics in terms of civilisation, in terms of survival, in terms of health. What woman are partly selecting for is superficial nonsense. In this woman's head, her sexual whims born out of a savage barbaric era, born out of the very oppression she whines about is peak judgement of a man's worth. But this is merely a post-hoc justification for her vanity in reality. Her pussy is not the arbiter of a man's worth, but an archaic remnant of the very oppression she seethes about every day that sexually selects for said men and trivial physical traits
>>82342302It was men that created and maintain these conditions were you can afford to have this luxury belief and perceptionYou are already the beneficiary of billions of men, and like a fish in water you think to yourself that men are useless
>>82344447I disagree with you on a fundamental level. Every patriarchal system is an uphill battle against female nature.>Chinese women in antiquity who bound their own feetThese things only mean anything if you look at them as snapshots from history, not the whole story with it's conclusion.> A radical jewish feminist is the exact same elemental force of nature that these nazi German women in picrel are.Meaning both of them flock to a leader which treats males as disposable foot soldiers?
Why don't you date them instead of spending all your free time shitposting and spamming /r9k/? With how much you samefag and necrobump all your attentionwhore threads like this thread and obsess about jews to the point you have actual melydowns, you could have made one guy less lonely.
>>82341697The internet and easy access to it. Gullible idiots fall for simple things. Corruption ensues.
Nobody genuinely cares about you. It's pretty sad. Growing up I had tons of friends. Technically had 5000 Facebook friends by the time I was 13. Some I'd hangout with but over the years I realized I wasn't being authentic. I was trying to be somebody I wasn't. It ruined me. Now I'm 26 with no friends or family and it's so sad..i feel bad for others in my situation. Im good looking so I'll be fine but not so much for others. It's terrible
>>82343953>will that cure cancer?Are you doubting the power of BBC?
Posted it agan award
>>82347153it's a very important topic anon
I'm a 33yo virgin who doesn't have friends and don't feel lonely. I'm more concerned about money and overall meaning of life.
>>82344694Yeah so what exactly is "subpar" genetics then? Retarded foids like this seriously think that genetics only affects height and face or something
>>82341697If you guys had a small daughter you could take care of would that solve your male loneliness>
>>82347279>overall meaning of lifeWhich is to have offspring
>>82347172how is it that important? if you feel lonely just go outside.
>>82347410So true. More men need to hear this message.
>>82344566In the Pew research that was saying "60% of young men are single" they only found 180 men who were single and would answer their survey. It's too small of a sample size and frankly it proves that most men aren't single at all.
I want frens, have gf, no frens
>>82347356If you have to ask, you probably aren't smart enough to understand it in the first place. Genetics affect how social you are, how masculine you are, how good you are at building relationships, etc.
>>82347416>It's too small of a sample sizeFrom the person who knows nothing about sample sizes. Samples as low as 30 can be relevant, what's more important is the sample size relative to other studies. I'm unaware of any other surveys on this specific topic>>82347416>and frankly it proves that most men aren't single at all.Actual retardation or bait? There's no logical way you can get from>180 young men in a survey said they were single (60% of the sample)To>therefore most men aren't singleThere's no way you're actually this retarded and inept
>>82347457The sample size is too small compared to other studies, which is why it's considered small.
>>82341997Based on prehistory, low inhibition nonChads bred the most so the roastie idea only Chad breeding is le nature is wrong. Even though Chad has access to all women in our world, low inhibition white trash or niggers outbred him and thus sentence his genes to irrelevance.
>>82347457>no wayWhat are you yapping about? The GSS says only 30-40% of young men have no steady partner, based on a much larger survey. The pew could ONLY FIND 180 single men in the country.
>>82347437>If you have to ask, you probably aren't smart enough to understand it in the first place.My undergrad minor was biology, I'm more qualified than the average person>Genetics affect how social you are, how masculine you are, how good you are at building relationships, etc.Don't disagree but in industrial society, these things aren't as important as IQ (which is decreasing in the West). Being masculine won't find a cure for AIDS
>>82347492AIDS has effectively already been cured in terms of symptoms, transmission, and lifespan. Are you actually mentally retarded and never took a biology class? IQ doesn't cure anything, and it will always normalize to 100 regardless of anything genetic.
>>82347387Very narrow-minded outlook of life
>>82347604It's one of the widest-minded outlooks you can possibly have.
>>82347632No, it's the default, even pathetic betabuxxers are able to achieve it.We as humans are past our biological imperatives. If biology is so important for you then only chads should breed.
>>82347708Hey are you currently breathing right now? Did you have to sleep at some point in the past week?
>>82347715You know I meant about reproduction. Even if you die childless humans will continue to breed and aren't in danger of extinction. Which makes everyone reproducing pointless, you can say it's the most important thing for you, but it is objectively not true for most.
>>82347502>AIDS has effectively already been cured in terms of symptoms, transmission, and lifespan.Nitpicking examples = no argument>Are you actually mentally retarded and never took a biology class?I've taken several, you have taken zero>and it will always normalize to 100 regardless of anything geneticHoly shit you're the same retard that's in every single incel/blackpill thread spewing nonsense. You've said this a thousand times despite you not knowing how this works. IQ is normalized to 100 when they create the tests. Psychologists don't spend every living hour constantly trying to normalize IQ back to 100. You repeat this every time thinking that it somehow debunks published studies showing a decrease in IQ. Even if that were somehow true, then you could still detect a decrease in intelligence. Please stop repeating something that you saw on Reddit some time ago
>samefagging and necrobumpingWe need post IDs and IP counter. This shit is embarassing and it's fucking obvious.
>>82347761Objectively true for most. Humans at the individual level obviously live to reproduce. Everything else at the individual level branches off of that. However, in a human civilization you can function and shape your overall meaning in life at the community and societal level. I don't know if this abstraction precludes "most" people from escaping their individual meaning in life, but social cues in general would make it more meaningless to function at a higher level when the more fundamental level has greater opportunities.
>>82347802>Nitpicking examples = no argumentNobody was arguing. Some idiot just didn't understand the science around AIDS treatment.>I've taken several, you have taken zeroBut you have never taken biology.>IQ is normalized to 100That's correct. It has nothing to do with genetics.
>>82347802>detect a decreasehttps://humanprogress.org/trends/iq-scores-rising-massively/>mfw when detecting
>>82347490>The GSS says only 30-40% of young men have no steady partnerI'm looking through the GSS right now and I see no such claim>based on a much larger surveyReally? I'm currently looking at the data and the sample size is about 3000, which is the same of the Pew survey (in terms of total numbers, not any specific demographic)
>>82347857>using the same low-quality links as beforeWow you are actually the same person making the same shitty arguments.These are global IQ scores. IQ is rising in developing countries because that's what fucking happens. In developed countries IQ is decreasing, at best flatlining after Flynn Effect gains.
>>823478733000 is frankly too small to draw any conclusions. The Pew also overrepresents for LGBT and ethnic minorities which is usually why their numbers are so different from regular studies. Like the Pew claimed 20% of young men are bi or gay.
>>82347897>IQ is risingYeah that's the point. Some other retard in this thread was talking about a "decrease" which is the opposite of studied reality.
>>82347911IQ is rising in developing countries because of rising quality of living. That is the Flynn Effect.In already developed countries (U.S., most of Europe, Canada, Australia, etc) they are either decreasing or at best not changing.Any further response made without directly addressing these claims will signify your concession.
>>82347931I was addressing another anon who claimed IQ was "decreasing." Your claims have nothing to do with my conversation with that anon.
>>82347903>3000 is too smallNot true at all, anyone who knows stats knows the CLT. Sample size only matters when comparing studies/surveys and even then methodology matters.
>>82347949Yeah by comparison it's too small, that goes without saying.
>>82347946Yes it is decreasing in developed countries. Just because some countries are experiencing Flynn gains doesn't mean that IQ somehow isn't dropping in the developed world. I accept your concession, retard. Stop spamming the same low-quality sourced and arguments because you don't know what you're talking about.
>>82347957Nobody was talking about "developed" anything. That's a meaningless political journalism word. IQ is obviously rising, not decreasing. If you can't even come up with an argument about the original claim and you don't understand any of the studies that proved the other anon objectively wrong, then stop replying.
>>82347848>it has nothing to do with geneticsTwin studies indicate otherwise. 40-80% of variance in intelligence is due to genetics.
>>82347976Aaaand you just got BTFOd again. Concession accepted
>>82347980>muh error barsIQ =/= intelligence. IQ is normally distributed whereas aptitude and cognitive abilities are more likely bimodal with a long tail. Variance isn't really predictive either. With 50% of behavioral "traits" being genetic, you can have the same genetics but end up on opposite ends of quality of life metrics. Where you are born is far more predictive.
>>82347984>no argument>accepts that IQ is risingEverything you need to read is in this link.https://humanprogress.org/trends/iq-scores-rising-massively/
>>82347957>decreasing in developed countrieshttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3834612/
>>82348022>study done on 12 year oldsWilson Effect, instantly dismissed. Your bad attempt at cherrypicking still failed, how does it feel to constantly be BTFO?
>>82348007Lame bad faith tactics, I accept your concession.
>>82348037>has no argument>has no sourcekek.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4152423/https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6042097/>muh genetics
>>82348044There was no tactic. Some retard claimed that IQ was decreasing. The objective evidence shows >Flynns discovery of generally rising IQs has been validated in scores of studies encompassing both rich and poor countries around the globedeveloped or not doesn't matter. you wouldn't understand the science.
>>82347837>Humans at the individual level obviously live to reproduceIt isn't individually but as a specie, that's what separated us from Neanderthals, because were able to cooperate, not a society of overly possessive males whose only goal was to reproduce and keep all the women to themselves.Again, it can be your goal but objectively true it isn't, because homo sapiens are a collective specie. If reproduction was the main focus, all men would be raping women regardless the consequences and even then most who rape do it because of pleasure rather than reproduction, but we know you have to be incredibly dumb to throw your life away like that, because we know there are other things in life for self-fulfillment.
>>82348138>cooperateyeah as family and small in-group community units. humans don't historically or currently cooperate with random strangers as any part of their "meaning" in life, only as a job at best. there's nothing possessive about it. r*pe was never about pleasure or reproduction, goofy ahh weirdo. you're just yapping. reproduction is baked in to every phase of adult life at the individual level. the biological intent to reproduce is the source of what we consider "meaning" in the most original sense, whether we later attribute it to spiritual or material subjects. of course, we can also abstract away the base layers of why we find meaning in our own blood and family, and function at a higher level for the local community. you can adopt kids or just be a coach/teacher/role model for other kids, you can work to improve quality of life for future generations or fight for their protection, you can broadly just avoid people so that you don't hold back future generations, etc. but you'll still enter and pass through each phase of human life generally speaking.
>>82348217We do, our globalized world is proof of it.
>>82348049Not interested in that first link since most of the studies are from before the year 2000. No shit, studies conducted during a time period of Flynn gains would show an increase in IQ. Citing this over current data is laughable.The second link you sent is interesting. The abstract actually contradicts their findings>"the average annual decline estimated using within-family variation is attenuated by almost two-thirds relative to the across-family trend"Meaning that the changes within brothers was smaller than the overall change.Congrats, you cited a study that doesn't even agree with you when you look at the actual data.
>>82348347>still has no argument or data1. Both links are current data, one of them literally addresses everything you have said and proves you wrong from every angle. 2. Both links show IQ rising, and even in the rare, tiny, insignificant local cases (muh brother) where flynn effect is reversing, the second link objectively proves that it cannot be caused by genetics/dysgenic fertility. The data quite literally BTFO the anon from earlier who had no clue about the current data.
>>82344450> I don't know anyone over the age of 22 who would consider themselves "single" for any meaningful length of time.The opposite i dont know anyone who has a gf Most young men are single
>>82348414There's no way young men are single for long. Most men are dating in their youth, not much else to do.
>>82348423Not really. Most people my age (25) just work and meet or have drinks with other men, most are single and cant date anyone
>>82348438I'm 23, most men at least have a girlfriend but yeah they do enjoy time with other guys on the weekends.
>>82348450Im 25. Litterally everyone i know save for one guy is single and never had a gf. Mainly because theres nowhere to meet women and women only want a top 10% man
>>82348463Every guy I meet is at least actively dating. In some rare cases you'll see guys that try to date out of their leagues and don't have much success, but like everything you do as a single man between 18-25 is more or less based around meeting girls, so naturally you'll find a girlfriend before you do other shit. I always understood that incels were just the types of guys who I would never meet in real life because they don't go outside.
i want a gf. it should be easier than it is.
>>82348423>>82348450Fat men and women don't count
>>82348482Who said they were being counted?
>>82348476Insane projection. People pn here go outside all the time with friends me included. But most men are single , theres nowhere to meet women and women dont want to meet men these days especially not unattractive ones.
Maybe if you all were not stacysexual, then you'd have girlfriends.
>>82348513Most men are actively dating, there's nowhere that you would even be able to only see men because men bring their girlfriends to most places. Unattractive doesn't matter because that's why they date within their own leagues. Most men have something called hormones which attracts them to women, except I guess there are some gay men like the anon earlier who said he only hangs out with men.
>>82348520Women dont want usHeres your (you) you can stop baiting now
>>82348537The problem is that you don't want women
>>82348536>men bring their girlfriends to most places. Guess noone i know has gfs then hence proving my point>Unattractive doesn't matter because that's why they date within their own leagues.Women our own leagues dont want us>Most men have something called hormones which attracts them to women, except I guess there are some gay men like the anon earlier who said he only hangs out with men.Insane projection, you just cant meet women these days, youre not supposed to talk to them on public and most places like outings of events are mostly men
>>82348549I want women but they dont want me.My only standards are being a bio woman and wanting to get along with me.
>>82348563>noone i know has gfsthat makes zero sense. there are couples everywhere, you would have to do insane mental gymnastics to specifically target single men (who almost don't even exist).>Women our own leagues dont want usAre you the idiot who claimed to not know where to even meet women? You wouldn't understand what a league is or what women want.>you just cant meet women these daysAbsolutely retarded take. If you have a human body, which XY chromosomes, you are able to meet women any days.
>>82348574Oh is that even true? How many hours per day do you spend meeting biological women and flirting/vibing with them?
>>82348585>you would have to do insane mental gymnastics to specifically target single men (who almost don't even exist).Poor trolling>Are you the idiot who claimed to not know where to even meet women? You wouldn't understand what a league is or what women wantAnd your resorting to moving the goalposts and dodging the question because you cant answer that question>If you have a human body, which XY chromosomes, you are able to meet women any days.Ok where are the magical women who want to meet me then?Because my work place is 80% men and every hobby i do is mostly men.
>>82348595>Oh is that even true? Yeah>How many hours per day do you spend meeting biological women and flirting/vibing with them?Zero because women dont want to meet me or vibe whatever that means.No woman wants me.
>>82348609>Poor trollingNo trolling. Every country has couples and even families everywhere. >moving the goalpostsWhich goalposts? Some troll claimed that it was somehow hard to meet women in the current world where there are more women than ever before.>my work placeActual trolling. What does your work place have to do with anything?
>>82348617>ZeroOk then that answers my question and confirms what the problem really is.
>>82348634>zeroYeah, i dont have random girl coming up to meet and asking to vibe with me?
>>82348652I wasn't asking if women wanted to randomly come up to you, I was asking if you actually want a girlfriend or if your standards are so high that actually zero hours of your day are spent vibing with women.
>>82348626>Every country has couples and even families everywhere.Not anymore>hard to meet women in the current world where there are more women than ever before.They are either staying at home or going places with friends where they dont want to be bothered by men>What does your work place have to do with anything?This is where i spend 10 to 12 hours a day.
>>82348511Scrawny low t men can't get non fat gfs unless they have model faces
>>82348666>Not anymoreActually more than before>They are either staying at homeThere is nothing to do at home>This is where i spend 10 to 12 hours a day.You would only do that to support a family. Do you have any kids?
>>82348662>was asking if you actually want a girlfriend I do. Do girls want to muh vibe with me? No.>or if your standards are so high that actually zero hours of your day are spent vibing with women.Women dont want to vibe with meAlso didnt know being a bio woman was too high of a standard
>>82348678>I do. Oh is that true? How many hours per day do you spend meeting bio women and actually flirting/vibing with them?
>>82348537You don't want us. Stop baiting.
>>82348675>There is nothing to do at homeDoomscrolling tiktok or going on dating apps which i assume is what they are doing cause i dont see them anywhere outside of the street.>You would only do that to support a family. My salary is shit so i need to put in overtime>Do you have any kids?No. Never had a gf. Never had a girl interested in me ever.
>>82348687None because they dont want to vibe with me>>82348697I do. Youd reject me immediately along with the dozens of suitors youd get by posting a single thread on here
>>82348520I'm beckysexual not shamusexual. I'm also fit and have a normal bmi so my standards aren't absurd
>>82348398>Both links are current dataFalse. The Norwegian study data was from 1991 at the latest, and the meta-analysis is mainly older studies. One is from 2010, some are from 2003, 2004, and 2008, but most of the studies they analyzed are older. Are you seriously so inept that you think a studies publishing date means that the data is from that year too?>even in the rare, tiny, insignificant local cases (muh brother) where flynn effect is reversingHoly shit you don't even know what you're citing. The design of the study was that they would look at IQ differences between brothers to see how that related to the overall IQ trend in the entire population. The brother score decreases were smaller than the general population, which indicates that environmental effects were a small portion of the overall change. You're actually such a brainless moron that you get these random studies (probably from some AI) and don't even read them. You literally didn't understand the methodology of the study that you cited nor did you read the actual results beyond the abstract.
>>82348698>i need to put in overtimeFor what?>Never had a girl interested in me ever.You seem like a virgin.
>>82348536I will never fall for the psyop that men would fuck anything. It's a load of bullshit and I don't have an unhealthy sex drive for not wanting to waste my time trying to prove im not gay by trying to get arouse to fat women. It's way more gay to be aroused by fat imo. Wth looks feminine about a fat woman?
>>82348728You misunderstood the study and have no counter-argument.
>>82348741It's not about fucking anything. It's about being attracted to the opposite sex. Tell me how I know you don't understand what the word "attracted" means in English?
>>82341697>25 year old zoomer who ignored his peers during middle school so he could instead watch Game Grumps and Pewdiepie between XBox sessions.This is femnimism's fault! And the social media smart phones!>>82344072>>82341721"some guy next to her" would have never caught her attention either 20 years ago. Dating apps aren't magical, they don't summon men or women out of thin air. Popular and/or slutty girls and guys would've just been hooking up with each other at some 90s warehouse rave or at a bar or skatepark back in the day.If anything, dating apps and social media gave all the mid people more opportunities to meet people after everyone else in their high school decided they were undateable back in 7th grade.
>>82348595>How many hours per day do you spend meeting biological women and flirting/vibing with them?Nta but i tried that. Tried to vube with them. Read the room and stopped. I may be socially stunted but I don't have autism so I know when I'm not wanted
>>82348737>for whatPay rent, buy food.save enough money to escape europe.>you seem like a virginI am
>>82348746I accept your concession. You are either really good at baiting (in which case I applaud you), or you're genuinely a clueless imbecile who doesn't know anything about biology, genetics, IQ, statistics, study design< nor basic reading comprehension.
>>82348764Nobody was asking about what the room wanted. If YOU want a girlfriend, then YOU are the one who has to do things showing YOU want one. The other anon proved in every possible way that his standards are simply too high and that he just doesn't want one.
>>82348773You can accept that the only studies cited in this thread show an increase in IQ, not decrease. In fact the study talking about ALL studies showed that IQ has only increased and the trend has literally nothing to do with genetics.
>>82348585Can you please stop mentioning women as if fat or ghetto women count as women? Say healthy feminine women.
>>82348788That goes without saying. People meet through commonalities in their lifestyles. Ghetto women are with ghetto men. Healthy women are with healthy men. You literally can't continue your lifestyle in either case if your partner that you are bonding with contradicts it. It's why a lot of porn addicts and gaymers are single.
>>82348776Pray tell how my standards are too high. >he doesnt want oneI want one but they dont want me>YOU are the one who has to do things showing YOU want one. Like what>inb4 go outI am out
>>82348662If I just wanted companionship I'd get a dog or a male friend. For a sexual partner, we need to be sexually attracted to each other
>>82348794>Pray tell how my standards are too high.Because zero (0) women are good enough for you to spend time with.>I want one but they dont want meIs that even true? How many hours per day do you spend flirting and vibing with one (1) woman?>Like whatWhen I want something, I show my interest in it.>I am outYou are replying to a man. You wanted to reply to a man and you showed me that interest.
>>82348797No you don't. You can just get a prostitute or a sugar baby.
>>82348771Why would your rent be higher than your normal income you fucking idiot? Just get roommates or get a real job.>I amNo surprise there. Only the dumbest people alive would put themselves into such a retarded situation.
>>82348755>Tell me how I know you don't understand what the word "attracted" means inBecause I forgot to put a d in front aroused. But it's because I'm too lazy to proofread for a fag like you. The psyop is that it's normal to want to fuck anyone of the opposite sex. That's absurd.
>>82348804>(0) women are good enough for you to spend time with.No i just never get to meet women and what few women i vaguely know dont want to spend time with meHow is that hard to understand>How many hours per day do you spend flirting and vibing with one (1) woman?Zero because they dont want me to flirt or vibe with them>When I want something, I show my interest in it.Sp am i just supposed to hit on random women in the street?Ill lose my job and get fined if i do that>You are replying to a man. You wanted to reply to a man and you showed me that interestWhat interest youre posting i am replying
>>82348776When you say girlfriend do you mean platonic girl friend or an intimate relationship girlfriend? If the latter, then sexual attraction is a must
>>82348833It's normal that the people you are attracted to are attractive to you. There is a meme about "someone out there for everyone" in terms of the anecdotes of a universally ugly deformed woman getting a loving boyfriend anyway (which doesn't actually happen), but men will naturally gravitate toward the women they want to be with.
>don't bother to ask girls out>"wHy Do We HaVe A mAlE lOnElInEsS ePiDeMiC?"
>>82348825>Why would your rent be higher than your normal income you fucking idiot?I already have roomates but western europe is expensive as shit so i need to work hard> Just get roommates or get a real job.I work in finance. I cant leave my jon and start working in trades for half my currznt wage>virginSo what? I have never had a gf and i dont want to go to hookers
>>82348869>dont bother as ask girl out>bro just hit on random women, loser your job and get fined brooAlso no women wants us
>>82348849>No i just never get to This is irrelevant. I was asking about what you wanted, not what you think other people allow you to want.>Zero because they dont want me to flirt or vibe with themSo that answers my question and confirms you don't want a girlfriend.>random women in the street?Nobody said anything about random women or the street. Do you think the "girlfriend" that you imagine yourself wanting would just be someone walking down the street all day? How many hours a day are you on the street?>What interest youre posting i am replyingYou wanted to reply so you replied. how hard is that to understand?
>>82348793So why do ghetto fat woman feel entitled to my affection? I get so offended when they show obvious signs of nterest in me as if I'm in their league. I'm not ghetto and I'm not fat, but only those types show interest in me
>>82348881>>bro just hit on random women, loser your job and get fined brooimagine being unable to function as a Male because you saw some scary jpegs on 4chan 10 years ago.
>>82348812Are you bisexual or pansexual or whatever?
>>82348873>western europe>work hardare you retarded or trolling?>I cant leave my jonYou objectively and unironically cannot afford to keep your job. You spend more time in your day wagecucking for your boss than you do hanging out with girls. Which one is more important to you? >So what?I wouldn't want to be a virgin.
>>82348884Why are you hanging out with fat ghetto women you retard? I never even see them in my social circles or at the parties I go to.
>>82348893Heterosexual, actually.
>>82348855>but men will naturally gravitate toward the women they want to be with.And then when they realize they aren't wanted they give up and you come here and tell them they need to keep wasting their time
>>82348882>what you wantedI want a gf but girls dont want me to talk to them or interact with themAre you suggesting you dint need their consent?>you dont want a girlfriendBecause girls dont want me?>Do you think the "girlfriend" that you imagine yourself wanting would just be someone walking down the street all day? No, i imagine meeting her at church or on a camping trip bit this will never happen because churches are all men and old people and so are camping or hiking groupsWhat are you suggesting then? Hitting on random women in bars?
>>82348891>scary jpegsMy coworker got fired for asking a woman out and talking to women in the street is litteral street harassment
>>82348905I don't hang out with them. They are simply the ones who show me interest on the street once in a blue moon. I don't hang out with anyone because I'm barely accepted anywhere unless I change my personality.
>>82348916It wouldn't be a waste if they are attracted to them. You'll either do what it takes to be wanted or you settle into another social circle where your desire to be wanted is higher than your desire for a certain type of person, and then you naturally change which type you are into because of the broader outcome. Giving up means you don't want that anymore. Like objectively and just factually speaking, when I move past something and give up on it, it's no longer part of my life.
>>82348894>are you retarded or trolling?The average work week is 45 hours, i work 50 to 60.>You objectively and unironically cannot afford to keep your job.Oh so i should just quit and start stocking shelves for half the wageAre you trolling or delusional.I do plan on quitting at some point to emigrate but for now i have to keep working.In general working in finance means long hours> You spend more time in your day wagecucking for your boss than you do hanging out with girlsI cant find girls to hang out with, where are they then
>>82348924>I want a gf but girls dont want me to talk to them or interact with themI was asking if you want a girlfriend, not if 6 billion women randomly decided to talk to you.>Because girls dont want me?That wasn't the question.>No, i imagine meeting her at church or on a camping trip No you said something about streets you fucking retard.
>>82348936None of that happened stop lying.How do you think normies are having all the sexy sex you get mad at?
>>82348963>The average work week is 45 hours, i work 50 to 60.Why? Do you have kids or something?>start stocking shelvesNo you should either get a real job that can afford your rent, or rent a place you can actually afford. it's not complicated, everyone learns how to do this.>I cant find girls to hang out withRight, because you are in a wage cage all day. It makes zero logical sense. The girls are a priority, the wage cage is supposed to come as a last resort to keep feeding your family.
>>82348969>streetsBecause you were suggesting i hit on random women in the street.Go ahead tell me where i am supposed to meet those magical unicorn women who are dying to vibe with me
>>82348945You're lying you said they are entitled to your affection. You are deep in the trenches with them.
>>82348881Extremely rarely happens. It only happens when you ask Stacy out, which is all that you all do since you are all Stacysexual only despite you claiming you are not.
>>82348978>reality doesnt agree with me so it never happened.Kek.If i speak to a random woman in the street, she doesnt like it and reports me i lose my job and become unemployeable
>>82349000I never said anything about the streets. Some retarded anon said the only alternative for him besides being alone is to go to the magical unicorn streets and randomly talk to a random woman in a random language on the magical unicorn streets. Was that anon you?
>>82349010This happens to women far more often. Most women are in prison for talking to the street.
>>82348993>Why? Do you have kids or something?No. But my sector is quite a high pressure one and my company being understaffed i have to stay longer >No you should either get a real jobWhat job.I make 55 ish k if i went into trade id make half that>rent a place you can actually affordI already have a roomate.I wish i could move to a cheaper country but i cannot rn>Right, because you are in a wage cage all day. It makes zero logical sense. The girls are a priority, the wage cage is supposed to come as a last resort to keep feeding your family.Ok so then what? Do i just quit my job, spend all my savings and roam the street in search of muh magical women ?
>>82349010>If i speak to a random woman in the street, she doesnt like it and reports me i lose my job and become unemployeablewhat is this rube goldberg schizo nonsensehow does you talking to girls on your own time get yourself fired from your job?do you work ON the streets? Are you one of those visibility vest city workers who just stands around potholes making 50$ an hour?How about you try talking to women when you're not on the clock?
>>82349007It can happen every time you talk/look/interact with any woman and she doesnt like it or find you to be too ugly
>>82349015You never said anything about anything. Go ahead. Where am I supposed to meet those women who supposedly are dying to vibe with me?
>>82349040>How about you try talking to women when you're not on the clock?Where? When I am not on the clock i take the train and go home.
>really like guy>he doesn't notice me>decide to get his attention>say I really like him>he doesn't like me back, and only likes Stacy>he asks Stacy out>gets rejected and humiliated because she is 10000 leagues above him>he cries because no girl loves him>tell him I love him and want to date him>he tells me I don't count>years later, he still is an incel and says women don't love him>message him out of the blue wanting to meet up and talk>he declinesMen are hopeless. The epidemic is self-inflicted. Instead of taking responsibility, you decide to blame us. That's just dumb cope and refusal to see reality. I made myself clear and direct. He refused. He's a volcel because he will choose only Stacy.
>>82349072Nice larp.Ive never had any girl be interested in me ever and im pretty sure most people on here are like that.
>>82349066>Where? When I am not on the clock i take the train and go home.How about your get yourself some hobbies and some sort of lifestyle you turbo autistwhat do you do when you get home? post on r9k for 6 hours?
>>82349060When I was single I met a lot of women at bars and music events. I heard from some retarded anon on here that he thinks music is "magical unicorn" or something so he would only go to the streets.
>>82349086>anything that disagrees with my worldview is a larpEven further proof that you men don't live in reality. There are women who are interested in you, but you don't pay attention at all and only go after Stacies.
>>82349089>yourself some hobbies and some sort of lifestyle you turbo autistI hike in the weekend and meet up with friends.When i have vacations i sail, camp and hike. Thats about it.Are these not hobbies? >what do you do when you get homeGo for a walk, cook and sleep. Then i hike in the we
>>82341721>Jewish dating apps unironicallydoes anyone seriously know any way around this? is there ANY non pozzed way to meet women anymore?people have said my profile is good, but i get maybe one like a month from someone who is fucking ugly or retarded (in a very obvious way)>>82341972lol he had a whole network of fans who set him up with fellow freak youtuber NAL who is a literal bpd demon and laughed at his death? is that what you fucking want bro? you know nothing.
>>82349037>No. Then why would you work overtime?>What job.Literally anything normal in your area that can afford to live there. >I already have a roomate.Why is your rent higher than 6,000 euroes a month? Just find something cheaper or get a real job.
>>82349096Theres barely any women in bars in my town. We have like one music event per year.So roam the street until you find a bar or music event and hit on random women there. Thats creepy af and will get me kicked out.
>>82348955Yeah that's why it's no longer a part of my life
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>>82349111Your town has literally millions of women. You don't know anything about music and there's a good reason why you think music is somehow a "magical unicorn" LOL
>>82349101>There are women who are interested in youWhere are they then? Ive never been asked out and as i said no girl has ever been interested in me
>>82348978Normies operate entirely based on social pressure. That's why many normie beta males are turning gay
>>82349114>sciencedirect>2007 datalol what a fucking idiot.
>>82349109>Then why would you work overtime?Because i want savings and i want to be able to leave my country>Literally anything normal in your area that can afford to live there.Theres barely any jobs. I took what i could find>Why is your rent higher than 6,000 euroes a month? Just find something cheaper or get a real job.Its not. I pay like 600. Theres nothing cheaper.
>>82349123Are you interested in women? How many hours a day are you normally flirting and vibing with them?
>>82349133>sciencedirectOne of the biggest academic study retainers?>2007 dataNot an argument, get BTFO again retard
>>82349114>apaNo one tell him how 80% of psychological studies have been shown wrong and have never been replicated.
>>82349119It does not. Its a 30k town with barely anyone. I could go to the city next door but i wouldnt be able to stay for a late night concert otherwise ill miss the last train.Also yeah hitting on random women in concerts is creepy af on top of being pretty much guaranteed to fail
>>82349103>Are these not hobbies?Very cool solo hobbies.Maybe try to expand to things where you can meet something other than seagulls and chipmunks
>>82349141>savings This contradicts your earlier statement about needing to work 12 hours a day just to afford rent and basic necessities. Do you have any children?>I took what i could findDumb mentality. If you find a girlfriend like that you will be miserable.>Theres nothing cheaper.There's cheaper for sure.
>>82349002I supposes entitlement is an exaggeration. I exaggerate nonetheless because of the gall these women have I'm being so forthright, it makes me think they feel entitled. I live in a big city, so in that sense I'm in the trenches. I don't socialize at all so only street women are around to show interest.
>>82349142Zero. No girl has ever asked me out and you cant vibe with random women in bars or in concerts
>>82349155So you're saying you choose to avoid women? Nobody said anything about hitting on them immediately, I just told you my experience of meeting a lot of women because there are 5 billion women on planet earth.
>>82349106>does anyone seriously know any way around this? is there ANY non pozzed way to meet women anymore?>people have said my profile is good, but i get maybe one like a month from someone who is fucking ugly or retarded (in a very obvious way)There's nothing wrong with dating apps.If you're also unable to meet women IRL the app isn't to blame.>people have said my profile is goodwho said that?
>>82349158>Maybe try to expand to thingsLike what? Which hobbies allow you to meet women? I do meet people thanks to camping and hiking but these are all men
>>82349072He's probably beckysexual. If you lost weight or used some skin lightening ointment you'd become a becky too but them you'd feel entitled to chad
>>82349177Pretty much any normal hobby. Arts, music, sports, etc.
>>82341697We used to have forced conscription so all the losers died off. Now they sit around all day playing video games and watching porn while taxpayers foot the bill.
>you cannot meet women in bars, concerts, and other hobbies!!!My mom and dad met at a Ted Nugent concert.
>>82349160>This contradicts your earlier statement about needing to work 12 hours a day just to afford rent and basic necessities.No you just dont know how to read. I said in my earlier post i want to have savings to quit my job and try to emigrate somewhere better>Dumb mentality. If you find a girlfriend like that you will be miserable.Wont be an issue since no woman wants me>theres cheaperThere isnt. I live one of the most expensive cities in belgium
>>82349171>you choose to avoid womenHow do i avoid women ? I am open to meeting them but everywhere i go is only men
> be me> been alone my whole life> spend thousands of $$$ on jewish dating apps, meetup groups, speed dating, etc> go on a few dates, never get a second one> finally find a nice girl I get along with who seems to want to spend time with me> actually get a second date and a kiss> exchange instagrams> her ex is a nigger> "oh btw im jewish"fuck my actual lifei probably have aids nowat least god has a sense of humour
>>82349203So go where there are women instead.
>>82349188>artTheres is no art group in my area>music I used to play some guitar but thats still something you do alone>sports I did jogs with a group on lunch breaks and it was all men>>82349194I dont live in the US its creepy to hit on random women even in concerts
What a very successful troll thread this time, OP. Hope you got your good dopamine boost since shitposting on /r9k/ is the only way you know how to get it.
>>82349214Where are there women? I dont see them anywhere except in the street
>>82349188So now you're just bullying somebody for their interests
>>82349233Yeah, you faggots really reply to anything lmao.Anyway youre genetic trash, you arent meant to have gfs.
>>82349188Hiking is a sport
>>82349219>I dont live in the US its creepy to hit on random women even in concertsHitting on women publicly without having mutuals or a repertoire beforehand is typically jeet saar behavior anyway, ignore these retards.
>>82349219>art groupWhat is this supposed to mean? i was talking about hobbies.>you do aloneNobody does or listens to music alone anymore.>only men jogthe problem is that you have never gone outside to see who the joggers really are.
>>82349251Hiking is a sport, just like being single is a sexual relationship. Some of these retards don't even know how to meet a lot of women, lol
>>82349244If they are interested in women (like for dating) then part of their daily life would include dating or setting themselves up for dating. Guess what I did when I was single? I wasn't interested in camping in a small tent with some gay guy, that's for sure.
>>82349272Well painting is a solitary hobby too>Nobody does or listens to music alone anymore.If i go to a concert i will be alone and as i said earlier you dont start talking to random people at concerts, also for each concert id have to book a hotel room because id miss the last train home>outside to see who the joggers really are.Women do jog too. But alone. Jogging groups are almost entirely men. So are hiking or cycling groups too
>>82349270jeet redeemers literally have a population of a billion people because it still works. it's more civil to get to know someone through a hobby or common interest first, yeah, but the only way you are not reproducing is if you go full retard.
>>82349284I live in a 30k city. There isnt. A lot of women to begin with
>>82349177>>82349219I've met girls at concerts, music festivals, bars/clubs, art exhibits, museums, boxing, kickboxing, BJJ and MMA classes, book fairs, book stores, record stores, second hand stores, gaming/comic/anime conventions, and often just sitting/standing around waiting for a bus/train but we happened to have the same obvious interests (e.g. reading a book or wearing some band/movie t-shirt)
>>82349296Okay my hobbies are shit and i have to stop doing what i like (outdoor sports). Okey then what sport has all of those women who are desperate to vibe and get to know you?
>>82349305>If i go to a concert i will be alone and as i said earlier you dont start talking to random people at concertsNTA but I've met girls through concerts.OBVIOUSLY you don't fuckin talk to them during the band's set, but during all the time waiting in line and then the time it takes for the people to set up the stage and then also on the way back home riding the bus/train
>>82349305>painting is a solitary hobby tooNobody paints alone.>dont start talkingthey can't stop talking. people yap nonstop.>last train1. you would actually just take the first train in the morning because night life means during the night2. not all music or social events are late at night3. why do you live far away from any women? are you gay?>alonenobody jogs alone anymore. also using your legs is not a sport, i was talking about coed team sports if you really want to make it easy on yourself, but even jogging is obviously an easy way to meet a lot of women, where do you think they start jogging as a hobby in the first place? they meet with other people interested (men and women) in the hobby.
>>82349328I dont have all of those in my town.But i could go to brussels its 4 hours away to go to those. Then what? Do i just hit on random women in a museum or a bar? Thats creepy
>>82349338>what i like (spending time with only men)You can do whatever you like. if that means getting into a tent with a man, then just do that. Nobody said women are desperate for you to convert your sexuality, it's just obvious that most men are interested in women.
>>82349173>If you're also unable to meet women IRL the app isn't to blame.are you in college? after college it can get really hard depending on your job and circle of friends. >>82349173>who said that?multiple people. do you want their names and address? are you ok?
>>82349359Learn social skills. Watch how other people meet each other first. Stop pretending that it's creepy for people to know each other or have a relationship. It's actually normal and most boyfriends who have girlfriends don't think it's creepy at all to have a girlfriend, it's actually romantic.
>>82349366>are you in college?No, it's been over 10 years.>multiple people. do you want their names and address? are you ok?I was merely questioning if it's anyone whose opinion is actually relevant.e.g. people who actually get dates, and not just your mom/dad or some other eternally single friend of yours who's just like "seems fine to me!"Do I have to play a guessing game of ten questions?Like, is the very first thing you write in your bio how much money you make at your job?
>>82349284If you need to act fake in order to attract a woman then it would be intolerable and risky to keep it up in the long run. Just my opinion. It's not worth taking on a hobby just to meet someone
>>82349272>Nobody does or listens to music alone anymore.Yup you're just bullying people
>>82349349>they can't stop talking. people yap nonstop.Okay its a cultural issue. I dont live in the US. People dont talk to strangers.>you would actually just take the first train in the morning because night life means during the nightSo id wait like 6 hours in a train station infested with crackheads for the first train of the day to come? >not all music or social events are late at nightThey are>why do you live far away from any womenI live in a small town (30/40k) with barely any women. Freel free to tell me where else i am supposed to live.>coed team sports if you really want to make it easy on yourselfI will look at those but i used to play bowling close to a badminton group and it was all men> but even jogging is obviously an easy way to meet a lot of women, where do you think they start jogging as a hobby in the first place? they meet with other people interestedI am such a group but its all men
It's okay, they can just admit their social anxiety is through the roof and they're too scared to ask girls out and to seek treatment for their social anxiety.
>>82349328So you're just very attractive
>>82348741I mean desperate people that know they cant dream of anything better will fuck anything. I have kissed girls that were like 40 lbs overweight and even during kissing I didnt feel anything. On the other hand I kissed one short haired woman that was nearing 40 and I felt a boner forming. She was in shape but not beautiful and the short hair didnt help her. But anyway, nature is really good at telling if you should bonk someone or not.
>>82349395>I was merely questioning if it's anyone whose opinion is actually relevant.ok? then maybe say that? am i supposed to read your mind bro?>>82349395>Like, is the very first thing you write in your bio how much money you make at your job?nope
>>82349372>other people meet each other first. Ive never seen strangers randomly talking to eachothers. And yeah women are creeped out if some random guy starts talking to them
>>82349401>The Male Loneliness Epidemic is getting out of hand!>By the way I refuse to have any other hobbies besides playing music by myself, walking and hiking by myself, and cooking & eating food by myself if I'm not too busy heading straight home from workyou fucks are absolutely retardedNo one's telling you to join an absolutely dreadful intolerable hobby that you have no interest in, but make a god damn effort to at least try new things that are adjacent to your own hobbies and interests.
>>82349424I'm not a 10/10 and neither are the girls I've been with.Physical attraction is also not very useful if you're unwilling or unable to actually talk to people.>>82349442>Ive never seen strangers randomly talking to eachothers.are you actually autistichow do people meet new people? as strangers.
>>82349447>hehehe jokes on them, I'm only pretending to be retarded
>>82349360>go backpacking with bro>get to camp spot >set up tent >bro comes over to get into my tent>wtf are you doing faggot get in your won tent >Okay >don't go camping with him againStop being obtuse bitch. Women could just go camping with men too instead of doing lame shit
>>82341757Keep voting right now matter whatTalk anyone you come across into voting right now matter if they are left wing, right wing of undecided.The left hates you, they taught women to hate you and they tried to kick you out of society, the evidence is all around youKeep pushing right because that's the only way that you can harm them. As an individual it won't matter what you do but get the right into power and federal funding goes away and then investors get scared because the government isn't backing their investments Push rightThen push harder
>>82349435Nature's telling me to bonk myself over the head
>>82349447>god damn effort to at least try new things that are adjacent to your own hobbies and interests.I do try as many meetups and groups as i can but its litterally only men. When anyone shows up to begin with>>82349465There has to be some kind of setting, usually its mutual friends or uni which pushes people to talk to each others.You dont see people randomly talking to girls in the train
>>82349482>flooding the country with a billion pajeets because I don't know how to make friends or talk to womenbased retard
>>82349465Okay so you're pretty attractive
>>82341997>We are electing to breed the superior race>By completely refusing to breed at all
>>82349502The left was already flooding the country having a right wing president made my life better not worse you can't lie to me anymore
>>82349497>You dont see people randomly talking to girls in the trainYes I do. Not just in/on the train, all sorts of places like I mentioned. A lot of those times I'm the guy talking to girls.
>>82349541>having a right wing president made my life betterfinally got that state-issued government girlfriend?
>>82349553They are all tall and have an imposing physical presence
>>82349553Because you live in the US. I dont. You dont talk to strangers here. And i cant afford nor do i want to talk a train to brussels and an hotel there just to get to try to hit on random women
>>82349563No, they're interesting people with interesting hobbies and lifestyles - which lets them connect with each other as strangers.>>82349572>Because you live in the US. I dont.I don't either.You're pulling 10 different excuses for every solution and piece of advice given to you here to help combat the epidemic of male loneliness.>I'll get fired from my job and never find another job ever again>It's only males here>I don't want to have new hobbies>I'm not American>other people are attractive>other people are tall>I don't have this or that in my town>I don't want to go to another town or city>I don't want to hit on women in a barAll this shite, and you'll still find a way to somehow blame dating apps and le modern society.
>>82349562The world is starting to notice that I exist, soon they will have no choice but to appeal to me it's already startingAnd companies will have to offer better paid positions and I won't have to be afraid of going outside because a drug addicted immigrant may try to stab me.Cracker barrel may go under because they tried to rebrand, I don't go to cracker barrel but something about watching them submit tastes right
>>82349520Uh... yeah? I mean look at her? Do you want that jewish dyke in your gene pool?
It's a few things: >Economy destroyed Because of low/stagnant wages, lots of people are focused on work and don't think they have time to date. Usually dating includes going on dates, which cost money. Usually you want to spend some money on a girl, so if you're poor there's a disadvantage. Also women inherently see lack of money as a lack of ability to provide (in this instance it's not their fault, no one wants to date a broke guy). No time to date, no money to use for dates. >Picky / disillusioned women Because of dating apps and modern feministic culture, LOTS of women who would usually classify as 3s and 4s think they're material fit to date men who classify as 9s and 10s. The whole "every woman thinks they're a 10" thing. They refuse to see themselves as anything other than attractive usually, and this impacts who they are willing to date, since everything under a millionaire is considered "lowering their standards", even if she weighs 450 and has 5 mixed kids when single. Only women with IQs of like 120+ are capable of making realistic standards that they can fulfill and expect. >Danger Some women are kinda bad at choosing partners and are afraid of dating in case the guy turns out to be a psychopath. Unfortunately, there are a lot of guys out there like that and will absolutely take advantage of a nice girl if given the chance. Usually these guys are relatively easy to spot, so I don't know what exactly girls see in them other than a twisted interest in 'rebel' behavior. Maybe something about them being a little mysterious (he doesn't tell her everything) or dangerous (regularly loses his temper) is seen as some weird sense of challenge to date. Because of these things, a lot of girls are super wary of guys who don't look like they'd be really nice and good with kids of something. They don't want to be alone with a potential psycho. There are still good women who will date, but they might be busy with work too and might not have time to date.
>>82349622>I don't either.Where then im quite curious>You're pulling 10 different excuses for every solution and piece of advice given to you here to help combat the epidemic of male loneliness.No ive legit done most of those but youre ignoring them>I'll get fired from my job and never find another job ever againThis ks objectively true. At least in my sector>It's only males hereWhich is also objectively true and i cannot make women out of nowhere>I don't want to have new hobbiesI did and it was only men>I'm not AmericanI cant change it>other people are attractiveYeah that helps>other people are tallThats helps too>I don't have this or that in my townI can go around my town right now and show you that everything is empty.>I don't want to go to another town or cityWhere? >I don't want to hit on women in a barYeah? Again youre not supposed to bother women when they have their noght out unless you want to get kicked out
>>82349664>dating apps and le modern societysuch unbelievable copeyou retardos wouldn't have been able to get girls 20 years ago>b....but women prefer attractive guys!!!!Something that's been true for generations, centuries. and you prefer attractive women.
>>82349675>arguing every three-five wordsthis is why you don't have a girlfriend
>>82349715> and you prefer attractive women.Nta but i dont care. I have been rejected by obese unemployed single moms
>>82349726Again, dont believe me? Do you want me to go around my town and show you thats everything is closed and empty?
>>82349738I want you to go around town and show me all the couples
>>82349715Not saying those are the only issues anon. Obviously women want to date attractive men. Can't get a date? You could just be ugly and need to work out, dress better, or take effort to be more appealing.
>>82349780Deal, i am going rn and will post them itt.
>>82349794>You could just be ugly and need to work out, dress better, or take effort to be more appealing.The average 4chan incel's issues are definitely the latter, very few of them look like the typical neckbeard greaseball nerd anymore. That phenotype died out in the 2010s.Plenty of them hit the gym for hours everyday, and they spend hundreds upon hundreds of dollars on clothes, but they're 4chan incels who've been brainwashed by jpegs since they were tweens so they unironically believe that they'll get cancel cultured and throw in the fake-rape jail if they go "hey how are you" to a girl.
>>82349831>hey how are you" to a girlYea youre not supposed to hit on random girls
>Just go and talk to women broCome on, dude. Stop being dishonest. This is 2025. Most women are with their friends or they already have boyfriend. Dating apps are the only way to meet girls nowadays,>>82349715>you retardos wouldn't have been able to get girls 20 years agoYou really think we live in the same world as 20 years ago? Jesus Christ, you're out of touch.Social media has changed everything. It's not normal to go up to random strangers and yap. What planet are you guys living on?
>>82349806First pic.Do you see any couples?
>>82349831That's one thing I didn't mention, the fallout from Me Too. It became a thing (and still is) that if a guy approaches a girl and she's not attracted to him, then it's considered 'creepy'. Back in the late 2010s it could have even been considered sexual harassment and that's where the paranoia comes from. For years women told men not to approach them alone, don't approach them if they're with friends, don't approach them when they're at work, don't approach them when they're off work. basically don't approach women period. I don't know why it was a big thing for years to do this, and then women get surprised when men don't ask them out anymore (women are seeing this trend now where no one asks them out at all, even the attractive women). The same factor deters some guys from going to the gym because some braindead tiktok girl is going to be there recording herself desperately trying to get a guy to look at her so she can girlboss to herself and call him out, even though she goes to the gym wearing the tightest yoga pants imaginable and only does ass workouts.
>>82349901Looks like my pov after a full glass of vodka making my way home
>>82349901Second pic?Any couples in sight?
>>82349868>>82349899>>82349913I met a girl at a bookstore last week.Keep coping about internet shit like #MeToo which was about a serial rapist Jewish movie producer.
>>82349970>Met a girl at a bookstore Maybe that's why I'm single. I don't go anywhere other than work and home
>>82349942Third pic,No couples, no girls, noone
>>82349991Fourth picStill noone apart from 3 congolese>inb4 muh cherrypickThats the city center a saturday night: the busiest part of the week
>>82349901>>82349942why are you taking pictures of just the streets?go hit up a night club you belgian fucl
>>82350022>night clubThere isnt any in town.And you asked for street pictures. Here you go: everything is empty, there are no girls, bars are empty. Only old people and immigrants
>>82350046>bars are empty[no pictures provided]
>>82349991>>82350019>>82349942>>82349901>>82349780please stop falling for the simplest bait possiblehes trolling you. if women like you they interact with you, if they dont then they dont. Its literally a looks game and virtue signalling. why do you think all women are retarded leftists? women respond to social signalling, men do not (as much). its the same with dating.
>>82350074>why do you think all women are retarded leftists?I don't think that.
>>82350055HereWill it be all?Can i fuck off back home and finish my beer?
>>82349970>I met a girl at a bookstore last week.great bro. im glad youre attractive enough to pull that offmost of us are not
>>82350094>I don't think that.i guess wake tf up then.
>>82350095Another bar
>>82350122man belgium might be the saddest country on earth
>>82350122>>82350095>taking sideways pics, outdoors, from across the streetlol
>>82350131>bro just enter random empty bar and take picture of the 3 old people insideKek just admit youre wrong
>>82341697Frankly given the modern man they deserve to be.
>>82350122One of the 2 big plazas of thz city.I will go back home you get the ideaTheres no womenNo couples. Just old people and immigrants
>>82350074Women don't think for themselves, they need to see other people validating you to make their minds up, if you are alone and friendless walking around you'll just come off like a loser jeet retard looking to rape someone.
>>82350150>>82350197>there's no one inside, trust me>no I'm not taking pictures>look at the outside of the building from across the street from an unviewable angle instead>trust me
>>82350128Yeah at least the part i live in is completely empty, but baiters like the other poster thinks theyre are just hordes of single women just DYING to talk with you and get to know you better, bars, concerts or anything.Nope. You just work, sleep and repeat
>>82350227>bro just take picture of old people in a bar from outside the barOr alternatively>bro just get into an empty bar and take pictures of the indisde im sure noone will tell you anythingJust admit you were wrong kek
>>82350227Also its super hot so people should be outside. If the terrace is empty then the bar is empty. Alternatively if i go in a bar with noone but me and start taking random pictures of the barman theyll call the cops
>>82350265>Also its super hot so people should be outside.It's barely 20 degrees during the day, low of 13.And no, bartenders aren't calling the cops because you walk into a bar by yourself with your phone up. This is more schizo nonsense like saying you're gonna get fired from your job for talking to a girl outside of your work hours
>>82350197Largest bar/concert/event venue in town
I think it's easy to find other men to speak to, but most aren't looking to make friends or already have their friend group established, and as a mid man most women have no interest in speaking to you either so it's pretty easy to be alone desu
>>82349359>I dont have all of those in my town.>>82349219>Theres is no art group in my areaArlon has some of the richest archeological museums in Belgium.
>Abs, make almost $100k/year, own a house etc, was even used as a male model for recruitment my only issue is being 5'7 which isn't as bad as some people make it out to be here.The big thing is there just aren't a lot of 3rd spaces where younger people go anymore. I'm not looking for a pickup; I'm looking for a wife to have kids with.Bar>mostly old cougars who start groping me and want to fuck me.Mall>most just have their face buried in their phone. A lot of hamplanets walking around.work>hell naww and most of the women are hamplanets.Shopping/restaurants>I'll get hit on by cashiers and waitresses but with the whole harassment/metoo thing I won't bother to ask them out.Gym>#stopstaring ruined that.Book club/Music club/Yoga/Danceclub>go there to pickup and some miserable karen hag will ruin your rep with all the younger women cause she feels you aren't there "for the right reasons".School>still a good place but if you have already graduated you are shit out of luck.
>>82350300>It's barely 20 degrees during the day, low of 13The weather is perfect rn the few people that want to go out are outside>And no, bartenders aren't calling the cops because you walk into a bar by yourself with your phone up and starting taking random pictures of peopleKek youre delusional >This is more schizo nonsense like saying you're gonna get fired from your job for talking to a girl outside of your work hoursYeah if i talk to a women in the street, doesnt like it and someone from my company sees it i will be firedYou asked me to go out and see the soo many people and couple in the street, got btfod because as i said. Theres litterally noone and now are trying to move the goalpostsIm going home you made me lose my time
>>82350329>abs, 100k a year, own a house Yeah that's the starting line that's 8 miles up the cliff anon. I'll get abs with work, but financially I'm just working to tread water
>>82350321And guess what? Its empty. Noone goes there except for old poeple
>>82350345>Yeah if i talk to a women in the street, doesnt like it and someone from my company sees it i will be firedWhy would someone from your companyA. Be watching over you over the streets?B. Be mad at you for talking to a girl?schizo classics up in here
>>82350345Another bar. With like 3 old people inside>bro just go out, have fun meet people>everything is empty, theres no young people, no girls, nothing to do
>>82350365>Be watching over you over the streets?Its a small town, theres a high chance of leeting someone who knows you >B. Be mad at you for talking to a girl?Promotion or just comply with anti street harassment laws
>>82350350Hmm I was just saying its even hard for good looking guys now. Especially if you are looking for a wife to have kids with. Everyone is brainwashed to be a degenerate now.I'll have women think I'm weird for not wanting to sleep with them on the first date (for me even though I'm attractive I've never been a manwhore) and they will say >But you have muscles isn't that what you are for?>Oh you want to wait? You must just be secretly gay>Oh you want a family and kids someday? That's weird.
>I am lonely>I will now spend my Saturday night arguing with internet strangers on r9k and taking pictures of the outside of buildings while refusing to enter them so that I can win my internet argument.how does this solve your loneliness epidemic my guy
>>82350398>anti street harassment lawsokay. I'll bite.Show me the laws.
>>82350410Oh yeah just enter a bar with 2 people in it, take a picture of them and leave surely nothing will happen.And even if a miracle occurred and i did show you the emoty inside with 2btown drunks you would STILL find another cope.You got completely btfo but dolt want to admit it.>how does this solve your loneliness epidemic my guyIt doesntYou asked for proofs i brought your proofs and now you copeI have been showing you that theres no bars with young women, no young women at all, no couples
>>82349502>>82349562he must be right, look how mad you are
>>82350465he has no advice. they never do. desu the best thing is to just be a normie and do normie things where you meet normie women who will like you because you are just like them
>>82350419https://www.ejustice.just.fgov.be/cgi/article.pl?language=fr&sum_date=2014-07-24&lg_txt=f&pd_search=2014-07-24&numac_search=2014000586&caller=listAnother cope on the menu?
>>82350488Realistically here are the only places where you can meet or talk to women>dating apps>hostels but dont expect any long term relationship or anything>university>high schoolAnd thats it. If you dont go on those its screwed. Real life isnt a hollywood movie where you strike a conversation to a random girl who saw you in the street or in a bar
>>82349553>Yes I do. Not just in/on the train, all sorts of places like I mentioned.i lived in oslo for 2 years and rode the tbane every day and not once did i see a random guy talk to a random women/introduce himself.
>>82350548Nta but how is oslo, and how did you find a job there.Norway would be nice, its like switzerland with snow.Otherwise yeah my train to work is also dead silent. If you sneeze everyone will turn around
>>82350540>And thats it.yea desu this is pretty much spot on. i might add "job" or something to that list but yea. after hs/college youre just fucked. seriously good luck
>>82349664>muh providingShouldn't this not be an issue in post feminist societies? Men are not just tools or wallets to be used
>>82350578>Nta but how is oslo, and how did you find a job there.i went to school there and came back to canada so i cant really help you. Oslo is ok, its a lot slower paced than a lot of places in canada/america. It can be hard to make friends/fit in sometimes, the people are less outgoing. University students/ young people tend to be retardedly political, but i met a couple of boomers and gen x people who were geniunely nice. ive heard that a lot of expats do have trouble fitting in, so im not sure if i would recommend it to everyone. In many ways its a lot like moving to japan, you have to really ask yourself "what am i going to get out of this" and "can i make a social circle/adapt to fit in" or "am i ok being alone". if you dont know anyone there its really easy to get burned out. I made it through but it got rough sometimes.
>>82350513>discrimination contre les femmesok?Et c'est quoi le rapport avec l'harcelage/parler aux femmes?T'es vraiment con ou bein tu fait semblant?
>>82350548So everyday for 2 years you just sat there, eyes wide open, staring at everyone trying to listen in to their conversations?Maybe it was happening behind you, or the other train car.
>>82350653I'm in Canada and I find the politics thing is insane. You get ostracized the moment you don't agree with all the right things. Its rough being right wing if you are into more artistic things like music or art.
>>82350673>So everyday for 2 years you just sat there, eyes wide open, staring at everyone trying to listen in to their conversations?so because youre low iq enough to try this, it makes it a common thing all around the world?stop trolling.no point in responding to this obvious ruse. move along.
>>82350548Its not about random. People just naturally socialize and mingle. I just got back from a shopping center and literally everyone was hanging out. Thousands of people. You could spend 20 minutes outside and you will learn how to meet people.
>>82350636Even though women are 'strong and independent and don't need no man' now, their biological impulses still impact their feelings. Exact same reason why when women become CEOs, some begin to have distain for any man they're dating or married to if he makes less than she does. It's a subconscious thing that tells them "you make more than him, you don't rely on him for money, you need a man that makes more because that means he can provide". Even if a woman makes 500k/year, she'll still be looking for a man that makes more and will be less inclined to date ones who make less, since she considers them a lower social level. It's not the amount, it's the principle of making more than her man. Sort of the same reason they like it when men are good with kids, even if they don't want kids. Biology tells them "that guy is good with kids, look how nice he is with them, he'd be a good dad."
>>82350690So you're sating that only low IQ people make friends and meet girls? Only the 200 IQ geniuses sit in autistic silence trying to spy on people?
>>82350683bro what do you think the trucker protest was about? canada has plenty of right wing communities.
>>82350381there are no empty places to be fair. you have to wait in line for most bars.
>>82350705Some are even utterly delusional with what they think they deserve.The 2nd last white woman I had at my house was living with her parents still at 29, never graduated anything, not a dollar of savings.>ERM ACTUALLY your house is kinda small It's 3000 sq ft with an acre of land attached...
>>82350683unfortunately its kind of the same thing in Norway especially with university students or young people. A lot of their opinion comes from junk articles they read online.>>82350717yea lmao thats absolutely what i said dude.if you didnt eat breakfast how would you feel today?>>82350694this is unheard of in norway, canada, and much of the USA.
>>82350721Bro said the quiet part out loud, the trucker meme people pretended it's about the liberties of freedom and the freedom of liberties.
>>82350758>this is unheard of in norway, canada, and much of the USA.Bro has 0 friends and no girlfriend and acts like an expert on socialization across the globe.this fuckin board lol
>>82350758Oh man a funny one.I was doing pretty well woman wise in university up to the point JK Rowling said troons don't belong in the woman's bathroom or something like that.All it took for me to be ostracized was some basedboy was tarding out about it in class and I told him to show me the evidence. Show me the evidence that JK Rowling, A LIBERAL, wants to "genocide trans people". OMG The horror lulz. These people are frigging delusional.
>>82350772youre just lying to an incel board for some reason to try and fuck them up?I have friends and had girlfriends and i met all of them from being in a group that i frequented, or a job that i had. dating apps literally NEVER worked.
>>82350756Same delusion I was talking about in >>82349664Some women have this idea that the average man makes 120k, is 6' tall, lives in a mansion, and will give up everything to make them happy. Maybe it's social media that makes them think this, idk. It's like they're comparing the average man to movie stars who make multiple times what they do.
>>82350705>biological impulse>"more shekels"Peak.Above a certain socioeconomic level, both men and women stop caring about the amount of shekels you fucking retard. It's more about lifestyle choices and the quality of how you spend your time. A career girlboss woman has very little free time so her relationships in general will be garbage trash can bullshit, and most of the time they at least prefer or try to end up with a guy who is more artistic/creative/feminine to balance out her masculine lifestyle. Two careermaxxing squares are just miserable overall. on the other hand, a rich fundy girl will date a regular guy in her league just fine, and she won't even understand the value of a dollar, let alone what it fucking provides. those people only care about the kind of experiences you have together.
>>82350758>people communicating with each other is unheard of in norwayHow did you make this post?
>>82350792man thats sad. i graduated a little before that and it seems like it has gotten so much worse since then. I fucking hate the university system so much, it just turns people into freaks who chimp out if you dont act just like them.>>82350823>How did you make this post?>i cant understand sarcasmkeep trying youll get it
>>82350793Dating apps have nothing to do with the real world. Most people are meeting through existing social circles or just by socializing.
>>82350836>keep trying youll get itI was telling someone to try meeting girls if he is single. I don't need to try anymore because I'm not single. There's literally nothing random about it, humans have been communicating with each other for centuries.
>>82341697The funny thing is, as a guy that isn't racist or sexist, it's actually pretty easy to get women.I suspect 90% of the incels on /r9k/ are racist chuds that women intrinsically avoid because they project an aura of contempt for everyone that isn't a white male, and people can tell when you're an asshole.Even on 4chan, I've had a lot of success meeting channer girls by treating them with kindness. How are you guys fucking up so bad? Just be nice to them??
>>82350848They don't even try talking to girls.
>>82350815>above a certain socioeconomic level Yeah that's what I'm talking about. The vast majority of people are stuck below that thing. If a fundie girl has 300k in the bank from daddy's trust fund of course she's not going to give a shit if she dates a guy who has to coupon to take her to applebee's. You're not wrong at all, you're completely right about people focusing more on hobbies and personality more if they don't have to be concerned about money. I'm just saying that the way America is right now, a ton of people are way more concerned about money.
>>82350793Dating apps can work if you are tall. They even used to work in the mid to late 2000s before height obsession became a thing for shorter guys like me. (desu if you are like 5'10 just label yourself 6 foot because these foids don't even know what 6 feet tall really is) If you are a shorter guy just stay off apps.About the height obsession... its really dumb. A lot of it just seems to be foids mimicking other foids. I dated a girl a few years back who thought I was 6 foot tall. Im frigging 5'7!She thought I was over 6 foot tall because I was "taller than her last BF" and he had claimed to be 5'10.I walked out from the date when she said I must be lying about being 5'7 and wanted to measure me lulz
>>82350837yea the secret really is to frequent some kind of space or hobby group where you can get to know women. Even a job helps (sometimes). >>82350846dude are you like a fucking 85 iq slopehead? I never said humans dont communicate retard. I said hanging out with strangers you meet in a mall or something and finding a gf that way is incredibly unlikely. Stop giving people advice, you are immensely bad at it.
>>82341697Nice psyop I'm still not talking to women
>>82349901>>82349942>>82349991>>82350095>>82350122>>82350197>>82350301>>82350345What a beautiful town you live in anon. I envy you europeans. Everything around me looks like diarrhea compared to your little town
>>82350871 im literally 6ft i have all these pictures of myself skiing, and riding a motorcycle and it doesnt fucking work, im 180lbs im not fat. the women you encounter are aids and put in 0 effort. maybe if you paid for it the experience would be better, but its just so ass.
>>82350866I can accept that a ton of people are gonzerned about money but I'm just saying those girlbossmaxxers are not biologically attracted to an even more money obsessed dork nor would they automatically treat a lower earner with disdain or disrespect because they have money. They could definitely do that for a coworker who isn't as smart as them or who is in the same line of work but earning less, that is certainly a biased viewpoint that emerges from the feminist shitscape.
>>82341697Because dykes forced themselves into the conversation about straight relationships and we are seeing the consequences of that.
>>82350886I wasn't giving any advice you fucking retard. I said you could literally go anywhere outside and figure out how people in the area hang out and introduce each other and not be a retarded "stranger." It happened to me just 30 minutes ago while shopping, but obviously you will have a lot more opportunities to meet more girls doing a social activity.
>>82350837I was the only hispsnic is my mostly east asian and brown social circle so I couldn't meet girls through them. I did meet one and she showed no interest in me
>>82350967do you really believe what you just typed
>>82350970>I said you could literally go anywhere outside and figure out how people in the area hang out and introduce each other and not be a retarded "stranger."yes idiot and this doesnt work except for the top 10% of outgoing people. youre fucking retarded, i wouldnt be surprised if the people you talk to dont actually like you. youre just full of shit.
>>82350982Hispanic is brown. And if you don't fit in with them just find people you fit in with, obviously you wouldn't need an app for that and I have heard apps don't work.
>>82350985Yes I do and I'm tired of keeping quiet about it. I never knew a dyke who didn't either seethed about straight men or criticized heterosexual relationships.
>>82350993>90% of people don't know how to communicate with other humansSource? I didn't say anything "works" I said that it's actually physically impossible to go outside and not understand how "strangers" stop being strangers. The most obvious is that you just become a regular literally anywhere and people will recognize you, therefore you are no longer a stranger. If you want to meet girls that you can date, you should go out and talk to girls, not fucking "random strangers" you fucking retard.
>>82350793I've never used dating apps, but I have met girls off social media.I met more girl through more direct IRL means however. All the places and events and locations you dorks keep insisting aren't real or only existed 20 years ago or doesn't happen in your specific train car on a 5PM weekday, etc.
>>82351029>regular literally anywherethere you go retard. thanks for admitting you were wrong. done talking to the double digit crowd
>>82346287Patriarchal or not, it has nothing to do with the subjugation of women. The environment itself will do it. They will fearfully act like other girls until they can get a grasp on who or what wields power, and then they follow his/her/its imperatives dutifully. >These things only mean anything if you look at them as snapshots from history, not the whole story with it's conclusion.A conclusion? Buddy, humanity hasn't concluded yet. All we have is thousands of years of recorded history of women falling into the same pattern over and over. >Meaning both of them flock to a leader which treats males as disposable foot soldiers?Meaning both of them are exactly as agentic in their behavior as the other, despite being political opposites.
>>82351055Wrong about what? The fact that 90% of people somehow don't know how to communicate? Lol you are dumb.
>>82341697450 posts later, and this thread is for the most part mentally questionable people posting about how they refuse to talk to anyone and refuse to go anywhere.
>>82351080NTA and clearly yes that's bullshit you made up on the spot to cope with the fact that you're not normal.
>>82351100Also this same exact thread with the same exact picture and text gets posted almost every single day, and somehow jannies don't delete it.
>>82351116truthnukes must be stopped
>>82350998Brown as in south asian. Bangledeshi. I fit in with them. Everytime I hang out with black or hispanic I get bullied or punked.I made a black friend who I played basketball with relatively recently and he invited a friend over once. When i first met him he just nods and as I talk to my friend he cycles around me on his bike like he was trying to intimidate me. While we're playing, they were making subtle jokes toward each other about me. I go along to get along but I basically stopped hanging out with him soon after that. Another one I almost made 'friends' with kept poking fun at the way I speak because I sound white. I'd be like 'hey what's up' and he'd go 'hEy dUdE wHaTs uP mAn" in the most stereotypical surfer dude voice. I never pursued a friendship with him because he propositioned me to go on a 'drill' with him once. Which means to go robbing people which he bragged about doing multiple timesWhat do you think? Should I keep trying to fit in with them? Does that sound like a good thing for me and my future?
>>82351100You literally have post from multiple people giving you examples of people talking to others and going places
>>82351204Those people aren't lonely or single though.
>>82351236That's just you same posting
>>82351019and you think these lesbians have caused widespread male loneliness
>>82351245Posting what? I was talking about the guys who have relationships.
>>82351204well they're drowned out by the sea of shitposts talking about how it's illegal to talk to women on the streets and how the professional train-rider confirms that no one has never talked to anyone else on a train before on two continents.
>>82351309You pick and choose who to respond to and who you acknowledge
>>82351379I like responding to the belgium/luxembourg retard because he makes it obvious that he's trolling but it's also clear that he doesn't know how to meet women, so it's both entertaining from a shitpost perspective and also I get to see one of the rare cases of an actual incel on this board.
>>82351424Thank you for admitting I'm right. He's an example of someone posting. You ignored the rest
>>82351441I ignore the rest because they aren't interesting or incels.
>>82351379Who should I be responding to in this 450+ reply thread?
>>82351479The ones you haven't
>>82351424>the belgium/luxembourg retard because he makes it obvious that he's trollingI don't think he is. I've dealt with equally/more so autistic people from /adv/ before like der schooler.wouldn't be surprised if they were the same poster actually.
>>82349632Your based right wing president would gladly send you to die for israel if his handlers told him to. Wake up dumbass this is not left vs right
PREFER TO STAY LONELY THAN BAD COMPANY. VALUE MY LONELINESS INSTEAD BEING IN A GROUP THAT ARE WAITING TO SEE YOU FALL.
>>82341997well if you fought for the country of USA you are pressuring your wife to take as much balls and anus or get ack'd.
>>82351527I mean that's part of the fun, to guess which parts are just trollmaxxing, but he has borrowed a lot of his current memes from another anon who lived in GA, USA. When he says that there are "there's no women" or "only men" he's referring to a specific anon who always used to spam this board with "there are no women there." You could post instagram photos of women being there and he will just skip your response.
>>82351527>>82351656>has room temperature iq advice >JUST GO OUTSIDE>gets proven wrong>uses the same logic the incel uses, WELL NOT THIS PLACE NOT THIS TIME NOT THIS XYZ>COPESlike the finest pottery
>>82351792That's actually based. Somebody has a room temperature iq "problem" and they get an amusing "advice" response. And then it just goes back and forth. One time I heard one of these "incel" morons claim that they don't even get invited to parties.
>>82351810one time i heard an incel 5'4'' 32 year old manlet should just go to a bar
>>82351823He won't though, otherwise he would not be an incel. That identity is very important to them.
>>82351888he wouldnt because its something that would literally never work. go look up the stats where people meet their girlfriends something like less than 10% comes from barsyoure just delusional.
>>82351188Brown people deserve to die alone
>>82351907>never>10% Are you just trying to look retarded? The author of the stanford rosenfeld stats on people "meeting online" 40-50% of the time wrote an article literally himself on how most people don't actually meet on dating apps or with strangers. Less than 2% of couples start out as random strangers on dating apps. The survey itself was taken online in recent years, so its biased for people who already use social media platforms. The bar wouldn't be a place where you have sex immediately, it would be one of the places where you start socializing and expanding your social circle. Do you think people never relocate or start over with a new relationship you fucking moron? The ONLY thing that works is socializing, and bars are absolutely one of the best places because they are literally designed for it.
>>82351792>>JUST GO OUTSIDEAs demonstrated in this thread, an incel's idea of "just go outside" is to autistically literally just go outside, do nothing at all and not go anywhere, and then come back here to complain that going outside didn't result in an immediate girlfriend.>>82351907>look at these scary numbers on this jpeg of a graphincels in a nutshell
>>82351961Examples of failure have been provided
I used to enjoy reading posts about women complaining that men aren't approaching them anymore, it always made me feel like that "do nothing, win" Xi meme.Nowadays they probably just post it for engagement bait to farm some karma/Elon bucks
>>82351984Most of the examples are of people who don't even try. Like the streetmaxxer who thinks trying to get a girlfriend will get him arrested.
>>82351984as have examples of success
>>82351995Have you asked him what his upbringing/socialization was like? Maybe he can give many examples of failure that would leave him black pilled.
there is no complicated reason to be honest. Women are evil and they are no longer trying to hide it and that's it.
>>82352029>Maybe he can give many examplesI don't think so, Tim.I asked him what law there was that made talking to women illegal and his dumb ass fumbled some nonsense about discrimination in public places.
>>82352029Socializing is a choice. It's not about success or failure in any way. The black pill precisely tells you this. The people who are good at things didn't magically gain those abilities, they just did them until they got good.
>>82352193I said his upbringing/socialization. I presume he's in his 20s. Him upbringing happened before then.
>>82352029>>82352798Is "black pilled" zoomer slang for mentally deficient?
>>82352798It hasn't happened yet if he's not brought up to speed on how to socialize.
>>82341697>Why are most men these days lonely?So much pain to ease my simple mindNo hope, I've been crucifiedAnd no one seems to careThe first time I knew you liedI ended up crucifiedMy hate you wear, for your cross I bearIt's for me, I swearSuck a dick, suck a dickSuck a dick, suck a dickSuck a dick, suck aWhat's with you?You leech off my desireA faceless nameSo untrue, you're wasting awayThe first time I knew you liedI ended up crucifiedMy hate you wear, for your cross I bearIt's for me, I swearThe first time I knew you liedI ended up crucifiedMy hate you wear, for your cross I bearIt's for me, I swearThe first time I knew you liedI ended up crucifiedMy hate you wear, for your cross I bearIt's for me, I swearThe first time I knew you lied (knew you lied)I ended up crucifiedMy hate you wear, for your cross I bearIt's for me, I swear
>>82352310Black pill states that they naturally have those abilities or their natural circumstances supported the development of those abilities. This is unevenly distributed amongst people.I tried until I kept failing and things got sour btw. Not referring to women but socialization in general, a prerequisite to getting women.
>>82352806Could be. Certainly a black pilling prospect. Are you under the assumption that blackpilled hermits are perfectly normal?
>>82341697why do you think? Take a look around you and see what the average man has to deal with in this gynocentric world.
>>82352930did you "naturally" magically have the ability to use a computer? no. the black pill is pretty clear about this shit. if you never spent any time on a computer, you would also tell us that it's impossible to use a computer.
>>82353007Read the second paragraph
>>82353045Ok I read it.
>>82351958>>82351961>IT WORKS FOR SOMEONE SO IT CAN WORK FOR THE WORST CASE!!!1Ad fucking naseumliterally just as bad as incels
We did it. We actually did it. I'm so proud of you, robots.
>>82353067>bro it didn't work for me!anecdotal evidence isn't proof of anything.
>>82352985>Are you under the assumption that blackpilled hermits are perfectly normal?No, of course not.I just don't care to fill my brain with useless trash about 15 different colored meme pills and what they may or may not represent.>>82353067You're not gonna get a gf, or be less lonely, by doing nothing and sitting inside being mad on the internet.
>>82353053>if you never spent any time on a computer, you would also tell us that it's impossible to use a computerI never tried snowboarding and I don't know if it'd go bad for me everytime I tried socializing and it went bad for me everyimeWhat you just read states as much
>>82353128Black pilled is just a synonym of despair
>>82353255Well in this case/thread it's more like a complete detachment from reality.
>>82353240Are you the guy who thinks "socializing" means going to the street once?
This is one the shittiest worst threads of all time on this board and that's saying something. Good job fellow redditors, good job on hitting bump limit with this terrible awful fucking dogshit thread.
>>82353389NTA but in my case its having friends, making friends and them treating you poorly or like the omega of a wolf pack which is why I stopped and just seethe in threads like this but oblivious normies like you don't know how you treat people or how other get treated
>>82353415>someone unironically uses the phrase "wolf pack" outside of tiktoklol. yeah this is what i'm saying. some people have never even tried to socialize.
>>82353405It's a fucking incel board you fucking faggot. What the hell do you want to talk about? Which one is your thread in the catalog? I don't understand why this topic isn't a sticky because clearly it's the hottest topic since every other thread is a rendition of this one, which begs the question, why are you complaining? This thread is like every thread on this board combined into one. If anything this should be the standard and every other thread could be more varied. Starting with you. Go make the thread about some obscure topic you like that'll get 5 replies
>>82353415>>82353421>posts are exactly a minute apart
>>82353439judging by the avatar, she usually posts about tranime.
>>82353421 I am telling you exactly what my experience is and I'm not using any qualifiers like betamale or alpha male. Those are 100 percent debunked concepts. Omega wolves are not debunked. In my case I am using an example that you can use to get an idea of what happens in the groups I've been a part of. But you've conveniently avoided my lived experiences again so you could 'dunk on me' and make a cool joke
>>82353449Don't know what you're suggesting
>>82353461sigmamaxxing omegalulz actually doesn't even matter. i was asking what you think socializing means, and you answered perfectly to prove my point. >AWOOOOOO WE WOLVES WE OWN THE NIGHT
>>82353474>samefag knows how to use inspect elementwow you must be slightly smarter than the nearest retard
>>82353478So if I left out the omega wolf part and lengthen my reply with 200 more characters to specify how I was treated would you have actually responded to my point?
>>82353541You didn't have a point. I asked you about your attempt to be social, and you started talking about something completely unrelated. I've had girlfriends who treated me worse than you could ever imagine. That had a literal nothing effect on my ability or interest in hanging out with people.
>>82353563>in my case its having friends, making friends and them treating you poorlyMy attempts at socializing summarized as I mentioned before. If I specify, you'll get a massive post which is unnecessary. The implication is that getting clowned is fun and I'm supposed to enjoy it in order to be more sociable. This is patronizing and isn't encouraging.
>>82353609If you are a clown, then by no means are you a good friend. You aren't "supposed" to enjoy socializing, my point is that if you actually developed your social skills, you would have better social skills. It's not magic.
>>82353128>>82353111>You're not gonna get a gf, or be less lonely, by doing nothing and sitting inside being mad on the internet.>anecdotal evidence isn't proof of anything.yea clearly the only way to end this is to show up to a random bar by yourself. No reason to think this through or be more rational about it.
>>82353618>You aren't "supposed" to enjoy socializingOkay so normies are just mentally ill sadist.
>>82353801No they just have more interesting goals in life than "i have to enjoy everything i do at all times"There's a reason why it's called the black pill. It's tough to swallow, it makes you actually step out of your comfort zone. But that's the only way to get a girlfriend.
>>82353779If you are spending time by yourself, then you already lost. You have to go outside first and socialize. There's literally nothing random about it.
>>82353829>goes to bar alone>ew that guy looks poor and creepy and he's by himself>everyone stays away from me
>>82353851>ew that guy looks like something>and then everyone clapped>and then all the incels magically had sex
>>82353829yea ok retard, thanks for pointing out the obvious
>>82353929It's obvious to us, it seems to be confusing to many people who never tried.
>>82353947>It's obvious to us, it seems to be confusing to many people who never tried.thanks for the non helpful platitude dudeheard more useful advice from literal 70 year old boomers
>>82354013why do autistic people think that every factual statement is "advice"?
>>82354024why do low iq people think they everyone else needs to see their opinion
>>82341997She is half right, because literally every subhuman sewage tier gentics female has gotten to reproduce. How THE FUCK does this retard think we ended up with subpar males in first place? I swear to fucking god. Im all for self-extinction only if it includes dysgenic females (the VAAASST majority of them in modernity, as they face virtually zero pressure to survive)
>>82354042thanks for the non helpful advice, you retard.
>>82341697I have a group of friends from high school and I still talk to them to this day(I'm 25). The problem is our group chat is only active once a year and that's during the holidays. We don't hang out often because we're busy and some of us don't even live in the same area anymore. Except me of course because I'm a neet who's struggling to find work. I didn't have dinner with them last year out of shame because of this. I've got another friend from a different high school, and we talk several times a week, but the problem is that we haven't physically seen each other in a decade. I think a part of the problem is that a lot of guys just don't make plans or keep in touch with their friends that often.
>>82354047>dysgenic>zero pressure to survivepick one you moron. the only people who are not having kids in the modern world are by definition dysgenic, because there is literally nothing stopping them from surviving and having kids. only a fundamental defect in your genetics or brain could actually lead to a childless life.
>>82353405>Trannyerenstfu and go back to myanimelist you zoomer faggot
