do height or looks matter the most?
>>82403797boring answer is it depends
>>82403797They both matter. They are requirements. They are not THE requirements. If you are tall and ugly, you're an incel. If you are short but handsome, you're an incel. Remember, all women have access to men who are both tall AND handsome (among other things), so is it any surprise men who aren't lose out?
>>82403797>Height + bad face can ogremaxx>Good face + short can ???>Therefore, height > face, within reason
>>82403797Face>height, but with the caveat that face is a collection of features while height is basically a specific feature. As far as single, specific features go height probably has a more significant contribution to a man's attractiveness than any other individual feature.
>>82403797You need both. However if you are going to extremes, extreme height with ugly face is better off than extremely short with attractive face.Anything below 5'6 is pretty much game over territory for a male and a super tall ogre guy can literally just put a mask on and many chicks will like that
>>82403850>the color of the kid>>82403797>le foids are not a monolithbut unironically. safest bet is to appeal to the widest base (all good features) but it's not curtains for your general appeal to good-looking women unless you have one unredeemably bad feature (ND/physical disability, poverty, etc.)
>>82403807It's always something>she leaves you for someone taller>she leaves you for someone more handsome>she leaves you for someone who's a better lover>she leaves you for someone who has a more lucrative career>she leaves you for someone who she can brag about associating with on social media>she leaves you because you faced some sort of minor setback >she leaves you because you got sick or injured>she leaves you because of something her friends said about youIt's only a matter of time before she leaves you, and when she does, she'll describe every negative interaction you had as "abusive" and "traumatizing"
>>82403797Neither. It all depends on if it's God's plan for you or not
>>82403807I'm 5'6 and decent looking, this summer a woman catcalled me. I think looks matter way more than height.
>>82403797An attractive face is by far the biggest physical factor for attractiveness. Height honestly doesn't matter nearly as much as people on here believe.
>>82404446Height works in close tandem with frame, which is underdiscussed. By frame I mean a combination of limb and torso proportions, shoulder width, bone diameter (this is what wrist/ankle and neck circumference and indirectly measure). A bad frame while tall makes you look like a frail lanklet, while a good frame while short can bump up your attractiveness more than you think.The benefit and primary purpose of muscling up, whether anyone realizes it or not, is to create the illusion of a good skeletal frame.
Height is virtually the only thing women talk about in private. they talk how much they would love an ugly shy nerdy guy as long as he's 6'2". Every negative trait, but tall, is actually ideal. Tall facecopers live in permanent delusion because they've been discussing their fake bone copes for so many years. Women fuck black guys who look like monkeys. They don't care about face at all.
Can facecopers show me all the romance novels of 5'4" men with great faces?
>>82403797Since when is height separate from looks? Has society really gotten that dumb?
>>82403797Your race matters the most. Your looks and height depend on which race you are.
>>82404775As a tall, shy nerd this is complete bullshit. I'm 40 and can count the number of women that have shown interest in me in my life on 1 hand. Yes, it's not zero, but I've never been drowning in pussy like all the shortfags would lead you to believe just because I'm 6'3"
>>82405268>I'm 40Your prime was before dating was obliterated by dating apps or anything and the average height was 5'7" back then you're just a loser
>>82405268Inversly, I'm 5'8 and have slept with something like 100 girls.Of course height matters, but it's hardly the be-all end-all factor in attraction.
>>82403797Im putting all my points into int+str
>>82403797Both are required to get laid now, but height still edges it. A short Chad would still find it tough, despite his face and build.Then there's stories of tall non-Chads getting automatic foid attention, which usually leads to getting some pussy.>TFW 5'5 averagecel who gets matches, but never sex.
>>82405541Whats wrong with short women?
>>82405607They only want tall men.
>>82405541>>82405619I'm this guy >>82405440Obviously you can still get laid if you're shorter. 5'5 is pretty rough, though.>They only want tall menThat's not wholly true. They want someone taller than them, but not necessarily super tall. Most girls 5'1-5'5 are happy with me. I've only ever been with a few girls my height or taller though, so typically they do want you to be taller than them.
>>82405472based eltrich knight enjoyer...you are an eldtrich knight, right? don't tell me you're a faggot arcane trickster
>>82403797Do I see short pretty guys with gfs? Yes.Do I see tall ugly guys with gfs? No, they ropemaxx or stay in mom's basement.
