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Do they not realize it will give the impression they dont have any interest in a date?
Dont they imagine what if the roles were reversed?
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>>82416201
>listening to women
failed a shit test this early? Damn, lemme guess a jbw situation?
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>>82416201
>Dont they imagine what if the roles were reversed?
They literally do not, and have zero interest in "what if the roles were reversed". You either put up with it or stop dating.
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im the woman decoder, i can explain this.

she lacks vocab so she uses "plan" as "i can make free time in my schedule"

but if a guy uses plan she assumes you mean "i will figure out a date"

its the same word but not in her mind, also she probably got back to you hours later so didnt remember exactly what u were talking about cuz she was prob messaging a handful of other guys cuz im assumign thats a dating app or something
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>if I can plan something
She is somewhat busy but if she's able to move things around she'll be able to "date" you.
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>doesn't take the initiative
That's the first ick, Anon. Women want everything done for them.
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>>82416201
it's texting, you'll be lucky if everyone can spell right let alone understand what each other person is saying
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>>82416497
Why is that a bad thing anyway? I like the idea I get to set things up the way I want them and she is tagging along. Helps filter who I wanted to be with too. I don't want to go out of my way to impresses them with what they like if it's something I don't want to be. However some guys get all but seething at the idea they have to make the plans so what am I missing here?
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>>82416780
>you have to plan
>you have to pay
>you have to lead the conversation
>and no, she doesn't have to put out
Just more and more we're expected to do for nothing in return.
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>>82416201
like what? why are you texting someone if you're trying to set up a date?
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>>82416794
See this is where I'm not understanding
you have to plan = I have control
you have to lead the conversation = I have control
I'm not seeing what the issue with those are. The paying I -kinda- get but even then, I'm deciding what she's worth for the time.

I'm needing a clear idea of why it's bad getting to decide what you want to do. Is it a one night stand thing? I get that being frustrating, but my goal was always a life long wife material so I rather control variables so I can see if she is someone I want. Or am I over thinking it and it's the whole you want a booty call but can't square how to do that without a date?
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>>82416201
I rarely get to that point.
They match and say fucking nothing, or never respond, or dry text. CUNTS!!!
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>>82416201
>>82416454
I am an advanced woman decoder

i and u r next to each other on the keyboard
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>>82416780
>doesn't get it
Sorry anon, you have to women automatically figured out. If you mess up once it's over. Now nobody explain to him what he did so he can rightfully be excluded from the genepool for his crime of not understanding women. Sorry! That's how sex and socializing works in life anon. Better luck in your next life.
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>>82416894
You won't have anything automatically figured out, it's what trail and error is all about. Each experience builds on the next. Short of really simple video games that you can follow guides most of life is about making mistakes and taking risks until you understand the material you become a master at it.

>excluded from the genepool for his crime of not understanding women
Are you saying you rather your genes mix with some awful person?

I'm getting the picture that some anons are just angry they have to make mistakes in order to get what they want in life.
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>>82416201
If she is that stupid and poor at communicating just count yourself lucky you found out early and move on. One of the things I dont get about so many guys is they will "fumble" some red flag waving retarded whore and then lament the terrible tragedy that they didn't get to sink a bunch of time and money into some garbage person. Like bro trust me, the sex isn't worth shackling you life to some dead weight hoe. I know your monkey brain is screaming
>SEX! SEX! GOTTA GET THE SEX! GOTTA HAVE SEX! MUST DO ANYTHING FOR THE SEX!!!!
but that's a trap that has ensnared many a good man to a useless bitch.
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>>82416940
I'm starting to think for most it's not even the sex but the hard reminder they are not very good at living in the world. That they were sheltered way to much and the by product is fumbles in communication or interaction with others is effecting them way more than it should. The major reason most Baby Boomners are so shameless is they grew up with 4+ siblings in neighborhoods where the parents just forced kids to be together. Somewhere down the line most have one sibling at best and they get stuck in some pretty secluded lifestyles that don't force them to be more natural and relaxed when everything isn't making sense.
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Women pull this shit all the time. You have to trick them. Easy mode is just say OK here's two choices. Mix it up now then though. I usually reserve this one for birthday or Christmas. What did you get me for my birthday? Guess. Then she will just say shit she wants and you can pick at random. When she finally says but I said that on the day of, simply say she guessed too good but you couldn't spoil the surprise. It seems very transparent but even ten + times using the here's two choices game or guess game they will never catch on. It's like finding a cheat code to turn on ez mode.
Also if you don't care about the nonsense she's spewing you can just switch to grunting at each pause and she interprets it as you engaging and listening. Eventually it just sounds like Charlie brown womp womps but you know the right pitch and duration of grunt to autopilot that shit.



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