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how do i know if im ugly and unlikeable
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>>82460470
Look in the mirror and then look at how people treat you and how often they want you around.
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If you arent accepted by the group you are ugly, likability is just based on physical attractiveness. If a 6 foot 5 man was an asshole he would be considered humorous and charming, if 5 foot 5 does it he is bitter. Same for if they are being nice, tall guy is being nice even though he does not have to be and a good person. Manlet better be nice and is a creepy nice guy
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>>82460470
people not liking (You) is a good indicator
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>>82460470
>mfw ugly but likeable
This is worse imo

There was this one time me and my friends went out clubbing
We were at our table, about six of us, and I guess it was the club promoter and he came by and asked us to pose so he could take a pic of us
Two days later, I go the their instagram page and the pic was up!
...and they cropped me out of it
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>>82460470
Idk. I'm ugly and unlikable but other people can only see it when I'm having an emotional breakdown and I force them to face it. The rest of the time they insist I'm very attractive, even though I'm revolted by my own reflection and I have no manners because of my upbringing.
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I'm confused because I for the longest time generally thought of myself as ugly and unlikeable. Peer groups, family etc treated me this way.

But when I date average or slightly above average women they tell me I'm attractive and they genuinely want to be around me. The last girl I dated cried after one date with me when I said I didn't think it'd work between us.

This has made me extremely confused
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>>82460611
i have a similar situation, i have always thought of myself as ugly, but i while back i did in fact have a girlfriend, and on i have gotten decent results of ai looksmaxxing apps.

however i am often ignored in large groups which probably means i am ugly
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>>82460470
>do you look similar to or better than other people you see outside
If not you're ugly.
>do people like you
If not you're unlikeable.
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>>82460646
Call me face blind but I genuinely can't tell if a person is ugly or beautiful objectively
I'm old enough to know there are weirdos out there who are into all kinds of folks
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>>82460470
>how do i know if im ugly and unlikeable
If you have to ask...
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>>82460470
if you're over 22 and alone then spoiler the problem is (You)
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>>82460470
Well being on /r9k/ is probably a bad sign.

In all seriousness I don't know. Probably don't have many friends and your family keeps you at arms length. That's how I figured it out for myself.



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