Thoughts on leftism?
I believe you're trying to defame this woman because you have women. I'll not trust your post
>>82464795thats just white women, they always celebrate if a white guy dies
>>82464795The famous leftist theorist, @1titanicfan
>>82464795"Leftist" is synonymous with "terrorist".
>>82465647and which side of the political spectrum on the aggregate has more instances of political violence? rightoids so shut the fuck up retard
>>82465668That isn't true, dumbass.
>>82464795>>82464834>>82465668liberalism is the most violent and genocidal ideology in human history. it should be legal to kill someone for expressing liberal opinions.
>>82465668lol what world do you live in? you're actually so unhinged from reality that you probably can't even interact with actual people anymore, can you? just a totally mindfucked tranny who wakes up and begins spiraling immediately upon regaining consciousness that day until you're a deranged mess lying in bed to sleep again
>>82464795Leftism is the same as women. Pretend to be nice and accepting while being terrible
>>82464795I have a hard time getting on board with this. I'm not a conservative but he had a different opinion than you. That doesn't justify murder.
>>82464795On paper, leftists should be the good guys. All leftists want to do is overthrow oppressors and save the downtrodden. The problem is that they call everyone they don't like oppressors, and their solution to help the downtrodden is to give them nigh unlimited privileges and favors. In their attempts to end inequality, leftists have divided the people even more, and now hatred on both sides is starting to reach frightening levels.
I vote democrat out of necessity, but I fucking hate my cohorts. What a fucking shitty country.
>>82464795What is the thought process behind shooting kids and unimportant talk show hosts? Why not someone important?
>>82464795Many of them seem to (rightfully) think they are free to do whatever after years of Conservative censorship online in addition to the riots of the past 5 years (2020 being a major example) going unpunished. It is no different than a spoiled rich girl facing the consequences of her actions for the first time. The right either needs to actually start enforcing their mindsets or we need to be ready to become Brazil with Chinese surveillance by 2030.
>>82465668What? Leftists are literally the most bloodthursty animals in the world and have always been terrorists.
>>82465736Extremely naive postThey do not want to "overthrow oppressors," they are their bread and butter This is like when Batman asked the Joker why do you wanna kill me
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/81324324You subhumans endlessly celebrated the suicide of a child because she tweeted like 6 months before a joke about white genocide. Moralfagging over this is transparently hollow.Charlie Kirk is a soulless cog in GOP propaganda machine to destroy US hegemony solely to benefit the ultra-wealthy, and I'm happy he's dead.>>82465763If you think propagandists aren't important to the Republican party, you are completely fucking lost in politics lol. There are very few irreplaceable cogs in terms of conservative politician, however. Vance is incredibly uncharismatic and has consistently been an embarrassment but does his job of dickriding Trump well enough for Republicans to be a-okay in their goals.>>82465777Yes, the right is finally going to stamp down on gun control. I'd bet the shooter of Kirk was right-wing, like the Trump shooter.
>>82465705Once you learn enough to realize that killing your political opponent because you can't debate them is the entire point of being liberal you might realize this isn't a battle of ideas, it's literally a battle of good vs evil at the most fundamental objective levels of the definition. They seek to destroy what they cannot control, they do not build, they parasitize. Can a society that is purely parasites ever survive on it's own? Who will create? The jews are similar in parasitism, they hope to create a slave race of whites mixed down with some dumber race so they can still have the half-whites run the world for them and maintain civilization since all they do is suck blood from functioning people.I understand why they do it, it makes sense, it's just not good. They're inferior, they're good for nothing and they're trying to claw resources away from people that are better via brainwashing, lies, and murder. It's the only thing they can do, they cannot compete in an honest competition so they don't try to have an honest competition. Just remember to never try to reason with someone that clearly wants you dead for being better than them, they only understand violence.
>>82465675Liberalism is a moderate right ideology
>>82465786Why do you love dehumanizing people
>>82465793only if you have a retarded definition of left and right. study the french revolution some more.
>>82465671If the metric is lethal politically motivated violence in the U.S. over the past 25 years, far-right extremists account for the majority.
>>82465809Every accusation is a confession.The Republicans cut off <1% of our budget that was for aid that will result in the deaths of millions of innocent people (i.e. haha dead niggers lol who cares if they die, we need more money for billionaires!). They're 100% for unconditional support of Israel despite daily massacres and a starvation campaign (i.e. haha dead brown people lol who cares if they die).If you're a propagandized voter, you probably don't know better, but the propagandists definitely know better. They sell their soul and any good aspects of America to become omega-millionaires.
>>82465786>tranny forgets ze was celebrating Christian school shooting committed by a troon right before the bridge ack
>>82465736>All leftists want to do is overthrow oppressors and save the downtrodden.This is really due to ressentiment though, they are against nature which is why they turn into death cultists. There is some valid sentiment in being against certain hierarchies which place the dark triad individuals at top, but throwing out hierarchies completely is completely illogical. As long as there's differentiation, then there will be hierarchy. This is ultimately what they hate and it's why they worship the base and decrepit.
>>82465860The order of those events are reversed in reality.
>>82465826>my politics have been stagnant for 230 yearsDid you fall out of a wormhole
>>82465779"Are You Dumber Than An LLM?"With Jeff Foxworthy
>>82465867our current era resembles late 18th cnetury france much more than it does the 19th and 20th centuries. also it's ridiculous to suggest that liberalism has evolved significantly in 230 years or that marxism was an improvement in leftist thought given how dead it currently is.
>>82465787This isn't even liberalism. Liberalism and leftism, democrat policies are all interchangeable but liberalism is more just allowing people to govern themselves and decide for themselves if they want to live a lifestyle that isn't going to church, being traditional, having a family, being straight laced. This has little to do with economic policy. This has everything to do with left wing social policies like abortion, lgbt queer issues, and gun control. What are they even debating? If a man can be a woman? They killed Charlie to make a point. The only point they made was "If you dare disagree with our worldview, we will murder you." I am not even being ironic or insincere when I post this, but this is 4chan so I understand it will be taken as ragebait or trolling, it is unamerican. You should have free speech and not have to worry about being murdered for a couple of words and opinions that can change or that you have that aren't inciting violence or the harm of another person. Disagreeing with someone's views isn't hate speech if you explain why you don't agree with it or simply do not share the same point of view. You should have the right to speak your mind freely, you should have the right to think freely, without worrying about being murdered or being unable to provide for yourself and your family just because there was a difference in opinion. Again, i'm not a conservative. I am not a right winger. Ben shapiro is cringe. Conservatism and right wing online personalities can be tone deaf and overreact over the simplest of things they believe are destroying america. I'm not saying leftist media or personalities are any better. This took it to the next level and they assassinated him. This won't end well, this is not what America should be or become. I don't have tbe answers or tbe solutions, i'm a fucking anon on 4chan. I'm not a conservative but this was political assassination
>>82464795It's better than being a loser chud that got shot in the neck.Rest in PISS, Charlie.
>>82465736Extremely based and wisdom-laden post
>worker's rights, progressive tax rates, some kind of basic financial safety net (assuming it can be used by the people who actually need it and not just freeloading pieces of shit)Decent>troons, importing the low IQ third world hoards, feminism, abortion, destruction of tradition out of spite, nihilistic anti-theism, praise of the dysgenic and malformed, general jewryCringe. I am a National Socialist unironically. If I lived in a nation with better racial hygiene and intolerance towards disease-spreading hyper-promiscuity (and yes, this includes heterosexuals, I'm not just talking about the fags here) I would be proudly in support of socialized healthcare.
>>82465905>my beliefs have no place in anywhere in the worldWe know. It's very common among loser men.
>>82465897>it's ridiculous to suggest that liberalism has evolved significantly in 230 years or that marxism was an improvement in leftist thought given how dead it currently is.Dumbest shit I've read all day, in the vast majority of countries liberalism is still a right-wing politic and pretty much everything about liberalism has changed exponentially since the Industrial Revolution.
>>82464795>"Why has he not been bailed out?" Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. "By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out."- Charlie Kirk, praising political violence
Picrel killed Charlie Kirk, the kikes are literally trying to keep it under wraps to drum up attention. Spread the word.
>>82465926Yes 4chan, I will spread this unrelated minor's photo around >:)
>>82465926>source: just trust me broplease... please rope
>>82465838Incorrect. But don't let facts get in the way.
>>82465937Indeed, and so can you post a rebuttal to this? No fallacies, now. >>82465882
Bottom line since I know Republitards can't read
>>82465914you only say that because you're ignorant of its writings and principles. both american liberalism and conservatism are forms of liberalism proper, true. marxists and socialists are politically irrelevant.
>>82465951But the president told me antifa was coming to eat my cat
>>82465928Me when I am not a knower
>>82465922beating nancy pelosi's husband is based. shooting charlie kirk, a man who did nothing wrong, is good.
>>82465786>because she tweeted >sheWhy bother with your grooming shtick when you already made that kid kill himself? No point entertaining it anymore so why bother?
>>82465967>both american liberalism and conservatism are forms of liberalism proper, true.Agreed. So, are you saying you consider conservatism to be left-leaning then?
>>82465985>you're all insane demons, why are you dehumanizing our loyal MIGA patriot but not a child who by my own beliefs is just a victim of mental illnessMost ideologically coherent right-winger.
of course it's some retarded suicide shit he's vindictive over, yeah t-kun, that absolutely justifies a brutal jfk-tier assassination of a moderate, insane literal faggot>>82465860>>82465809>>82465985please understand, he's deathly afraid his boyfriend will ACK just like the bridge tranny if he has one too many bad days, he has a personal stake in this
>>82465992no because that's not what leftist in its original meaning (from the french revolution) meant. the mountain (statists) sat on the left of the national convention and the girondins (liberals) sat on the right. leftism means statism and authoritarianism.
It doesn't matter. Right-wingers will never join us in reality. They prefer their mythos and lore.
>>82466033You're cherry-picking a tiny piece of the assembly seating that wasn't even consistent during the actual French Revolution. 230 years ago. This is a retarded etymological fallacy to base your political understanding on. You're not living specifically between 1792-1793.
what I hate the most is the for a fact women wouldn't be fighting in a civil war directly. women are so comfortable posting stupid shit about violence while they know they won't suffer at all if SHTF. Men are soldiers in wars, women not so much. Fucking idiots. they better hope nothing happens else they'll be the first targets from robots for forcing this upon us.
>>82466076nigga that is the undisputed origin of the term. this is not how you want to attack this.
>>82466032Who said it's justified? I'm just happy it happened. He could've died in a car accident and it'd also be good, although less funny.>but he's only a MIGA cultistYeah, they're still evil lol. The racist right is utterly irrelevant politically, of course, but the non-racist right is still horrendous.
>>82465671>I reject reality and substitute my own! You never had a chance
>>82466108But it's not. Before the giordins the right of the assembly were supporters of the monarchy (authoritarianism) and the left of the assembly were supporters of the revolution (republicanism). You're just bluffing now because you don't know what you're talking about. Even if it were the origin of the term (which it's not), it would still be a retarded etymological fallacy that you're clinging to just so you can pretend that the world hasn't evolved past 1792.
>>82465786>>82465856>>82466010>>82466109All of these words are void. Everything you stand for is just an impulse of collectivist psychosis and intersectionalist slop. There is nothing to reason or deboonk anymore. And stop pretending to be a weeb when you're obviously the type to seethe at Japan's idyllism. It's all just UN backed opinions with you.The blm shit was just the tipping point when it came to 'radicalizing' normal people with a sense of self-preservation. How you've convinced yourself that you're not the enemy of a good life is beyond me.
>>82466219>monarchy (authoritarianism) what the fuck are you talking about, monarchy has always been insanely compatible with liberalism and louis implemented many liberalisng reforms.>revolution (republicanism)which has no relation at all to the liberalism of the time that supported constitutional monarchy, so you're agreeing with me.>it would still be a retarded etymological fallacy that you're clinging to just so you can pretend that the world hasn't evolved past 1792.if you believe that republicanism was leftism, which is your argument, then you must accept that liberalism, that opposed the republic and supported constitutional monarchy, was not on the left. i'm willing to argue within your definition if you have an issue with mine. >you can pretend that the world hasn't evolved past 1792.it fucking hasn't. if you look at what liberals were saying in 1792 and what they're saying now it's the exact same thing and they're referring to the exact same thinkers and principles that they did back then. they even supported faggotry back then lmao.
In the case of certain types of women and men, they have been instilled with a viral false "empathy" via internet addiction. oversocialized by an algorithm, they spout about "interconnectedness" but will bring no attention to the inherent pitfalls of this philosophy. they will genuinely hate the idea of an individual living outside of their perceived ideological-paradigm.it is in their docile sensibilities that they do not (can not) think outside of the information they consume. Permanently barred from higher-thinking, they will largely distract themselves with pseudo-academic interests like intersectionality, western feminism, global altruism, etc...but in an effort to progressively transcend "us vs them" mentality they end up favoring them over us. i want to call this "antichrist empathy" as it tends to favor ideas adjacent to inherent sin and political "redemption" via "allyship" but it eventually results in self-hate and communitarian syndrome.this sort of interconnectedness has an insectoid flavor to it's unquestioned collectivism, no doubt irresistible to a despiritualized hylic with a lust for for "meaning". certain demographics with a tendency for conformism and lower-thinking will gladly pedestalize it. you will see them bring up "interconnectedness" a lot more when their nature is exposed. it is important to realize, they can not be dehumanized as they are barely the same type of human as everyone else.compare this to the average joe who isn't oversocialized with social media programming. they have an abundance of empathy for their family, neighbors, friends and everything local but they think nothing of the "starving middle eastern children" yet they are more connected to life on a warm soul level. it's pure, honest and untouched by memetic neuroticisms of social media ideology. they are inherently more conscious and soulful than the biomasses that unapologetically eat up subverted "empathy"
>>82466257No argument at all. >Everything you stand for is just an impulse of...a demented dying child rapist war criminal, is correct for MAGAts.
>>82466275>so you're agreeing with me.You're agreeing with me. You're saying that the right was compatible with liberalism and the left was anti-liberalism. >then you must accept that liberalism, that opposed the republic and supported constitutional monarchy, was not on the left.That's... exactly what I've been saying this whole time. Consider how this discussion started >>82465793>>82465826
>>82464795Love seeing the true nature of roasties, a non Chad was killed and they are ecstatic
>>82466097Women will be open season for rape and murder when SHTF
Mental illness. I used to be a leftard but my views started changing during Covid.
>>82465675wait till you find out leftism isnt the same as liberalism
>>82466309i agreed with you already on that, here;>>82465967>both american liberalism and conservatism are forms of liberalism proper, true. my point is based on refuting this;>So, are you saying you consider conservatism to be left-leaning then?which i have.>leftism means statism and authoritarianism.this is what i fucking said and what i'm arguing about, i'm arguing against the idea that liberalism has ever been on the left. you're the one who changed positions mid-argument>>82466323>leftism means statism and authoritarianism.already said that here;>>82466033
>>82466302get to the part where you seethe at Japanese living or support third worlder violence as 'karma for racism'.there is no argument needed when basic self preservation and a righteous desire for Idylism takes the forefront.the illusions spouted by whores with socsci slop degrees will matter naught.
>>82466359I haven't changed positions at all. I said that liberalism is a moderate right ideology, someone (maybe not you, because that would really make you seem retarded now that you're agreeing that liberalism is right-wing) said this:>>82465826
>>82466398in the modern day every position on the political spectrum is liberal. in 1792, liberalism supported aristocracy and monarchy against true statist leftism. >You're saying that the right was compatible with liberalism and the left was anti-liberalism. yes, in 1792.>Liberalism is a moderate right ideologycurrently, every political party in the west is liberal. in an objective sense, there is no right today because there is no left.
>>82466390>Japan is racistI don't care, at all, lol.>I have no argument, and I'm proudRoom temperature IQ.
>>82466419If your point is that the west is completely gripped by an all-encompassing right-wing ideology with no real leftist momentum, then I agree completely.
>>82464795You're too autistic and retarded to understand it
>>82466436then your definition of right-wing is meaningless
>>82464795I'm sick of them. They need to get what they've been asking for.
>>82466470You've agreed that liberalism is right-wing, which is the whole thing I said that started this argument. You've agreed that liberalism is the dominant ideology of the west. I don't know what hill you're trying to die on anymore. We're in agreement.
everyone wants to push this retarded left vs right war that is never happening instead of focusing on the people at the top. same as how they shut down Occupy Wall Street in 2008. stupid people on the right wing in america, stupid people on the left. both capitalists. the problem is runaway capitalism.
>>82466478ok then what is the point in saying liberalism is right-wing if every single political movement in the west is liberal. are you saying every single political movement in the west is right-wing??? it's a useless term in the way you're using it.
also i love how the miga crowd gets their panties in a wad when the other side does the same shit they do. look no further than /pol/ or /gif/ for examples of that retard's base delighting in the suffering of transgender people. on a fucking daily basis. pure psychopaths.
>>82466505Look at what the topic of the thread you are actively posting in is, niggerfaggot.
>>82466569then why didn't you talk about actual leftism instead of going on about what you apparently think is a right-wing ideology?
>>82466314>season for rape and murder when SHTFhave fun, anon. they would deserve it for pushing it too far
>>82466588Look at what I was replying to, dumb-nigger. Jesus fucking Christ, are you retarded?
>>82466508>suffering of transgender people. on a fucking daily basis. pure psychopaths.no one is hunting transgenders down, they do it themselves. i'm not gonna lose sleep over it, just like i won't lose sleep over kirk get murked. just insane the left wants to head down this path when they will get fucked up if they continue this
>>82465668>and which side of the political spectrum on the aggregate has more instances of political violence?the left by far
>>82466631Any source at all? besides the voices in your head, of course
>>82466634History and the various recent, "mostly peaceful" riots.
>>82466641Got it, just the voices.
>>82466643No, facts. But you don't care about thse, do you.
>>82466615only one getting fucked up is you if you want to go civil warthe north won beforethe north shall win again if need be
Thoughts on rightoids?
pussy zionist boomer geriatric chemo patient (a lot) and some proud boys (25 proud boys) and some oath keepers (30 oath keepers) vs literally everyone elsewho would win
>>82466603>UHMMM IT'S THE TOPIC!!!>UHMMM ACTUALLY IT'S WHAT I WAS REPLYING TO!!!yep, you seem like a projecting dumbfuck to me
>>82466652If anything the civil war at this rate is gonna be between the pro-Israel right and the anti-Israel right. And you already know which side will win that.
>>82466666who got it i wonder? perhaps something good
>>82466667Look, I'm sorry that you wasted your time acting retarded, but you already have agreed with me on every point I made, the debate is over. You gotta find someone else to argue with now.
>>82466681he runs around the board feining retardation with everyone, if you look for him just quote his shit back to him and do not engage. hopefully he fucks off.
>>82466652>only one getting fucked up is you if you want to go civil warthe left is the one pushing for it by heading down this path. the northern cities can't grow their own food. they don't have as many firearms to defend important locations. it's retarded. Feds are going to work overtime to stop this
>>82466701in a real shtf civil war scenario it probably plays out something like this:washington state nuclear command centerdefected nuclear engineer will disable the permissive action links on at least one Minuteman III ICBMWA state junta says recognize me or die."OK WA State Junta"100% most likely scenario
>>82466714so the same thing could happen in montana at Maelstrom and they have way more missiles
>>82465671>>82465675>>82465692>>82465779>>82466631nice try feds. you know we call you "reactionaries" for a reason
>>82466730all it takes is onethe reality is we would re-establish mad with: "you get your side i get mine and if you cross the red line i will nuke you"it's not a matter of one, or three hundred.
>>82466681lol you're genuinely too stupid to argue with>you already have agreed with me on every point I madewhich all have nothing to do with your original point that liberalism is a right-wing ideology. if you want to go down that road, then you can argue that this;>only if you have a retarded definition of left and right. was me agreeing with you. ok, dipshit i agree that if you use a retarded definition of left and right liberalism is a right-wing ideology. no idea why you kept sperging for an hour if you count THAT as me agreeing with you. yes, i agree that you are a retard lmao.>>82466689you're that idiot who copies exactly what i'm saying and passes it off as his own idea but gets it wrong lmao, dumbfuck>>82466733where are the causalties from biden's genocide on that graph?
>>82466736one missile isn't enough to stop anything plus they wouldn't actually be able to guide them anywhere so you do actually need the actual material and to be able to disseminate it
>>82464795So far they're winning. Meanwhile you faggots wanna cry and larp like Nazis. The Nazis at least had the balls to fight back in the streets LMAO
>>824656751. liberalism isnt leftist its center 2. saying liberalism is the most violent and genocidal ideology in human history is very quickly countered by colonialism imperialism or just plain nazism. im assuming that was bait though
>>82466747all that shit runs off radio or copper wire, it can be sent over the same locally, it's how the system is tested anyway. you are right, the DoD handles the targeting of where it lands, the nuke base just authorizes it, but the engineer knows how every bit of it works so he can nigger rig the nuke to just fire
>>82466748>killing people is winningLmao leftard
Charlie turned into a fountain
>>82466742Me:>Liberalism is a right wing ideologyYou:>I agreeMe:>Ok thenYou:>NO YOU DONT YOU IDORT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POINT THAT LIBERALISM IS A RIGHT WING IDEOLOGY
>>82466759setting all that shit up though would take about 13 hours plus the base's C&C uplink being disconnected, so yeah there would be firefighting
>>82466769lol im glad someone else pointed out liberalism isnt leftist lol its literally right wing this guy only debates in bad faith its unreal
>>82466771>so yeah there would be firefightingit's cool. musk and thiel would send merc armies. what a larp scenario kek
>>82466792consider: they would go the lefty side so they can have their e-cities projects. preservation of the PNW = preservation of the American economy. it can't afford to be destroyed, if it were america would be a third world country
>>82466802lmao you vastly overestimate how important the PNW is
>>82464811I'm a brown guy taking to a Mexican girl and we both think this shit was horrible despite disagreeing with the guy. Her white friend seemed to be celebrating this though. Really makes you think
>>82466742wtf are you talking about bidens genocide thats a graph showing political domestic terrorism you said i was wrong about people on the right being more violent politically and im showing you empirical data that probes otherwise. anything else? faggot
>>82466813Yeah. Mexicans are retarded.
>>82466756european imperialism was liberal you utter retard>>82466769>I agreeno i said "yes, if your definition of right and elft is retarded" and then you kept posting in an effort to convince me that your definition of left and right wasn't retarded which you failed to do.>NO YOU DONT YOU IDORT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR POINT THAT LIBERALISM IS A RIGHT WING IDEOLOGYagain, you have no ability to follow an argument.>>82466787your dumbfuck woke socialism is also liberal you retard so idk what you're so happy about>>82466820biden killed 60,000 people in gaza so where the fuck is that on your graph you evil liberal piece of shit???
>>82466813White women see their father or their uncle, they see a white man as the sole perpetrator of a system that oppresses and all that nonsense.
>>82466824No. You are retarded. Braindead luddite. Probably a Christcuck too. Hope you swing from the rafters soon.
>>82466813We need cracker control it seems.
>>82466833As a white woman (cis) I had an absent father figure, so when I see a mature man it, it really excites me and turns me on because it fulfills something that was fundamentally missing from my life. So no. I don't fit your worldview. I do love daddies though.
>>82466849many such cases. daddy issues is a real thing
>>82466829socialism isnt liberalism. holy fuck. like thats just a fact i dont know how we are genuinely arguing about that. communism is not liberal and neither is fascism although id agree that the democrats and the conservatives in america today are both liberal, although trump is definitely putting that into question.WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GRAPH SHOWS DOMESTIC POLITICAL TERRORISM DUE TO ONE MOTIVE OR ANOTHER, SHOWING RIGHT LEANING ISSUES ARE MORE PREDOMINANT; WHY ARE YOU BRINGING UP BIDENS GENOCIDE WHICH YOU SHOULD VERY WELL KNOW AS I HAVE EXPRESSED THAT I AM A LEFTIST OF COURSE IM NEVER IN SUPPORT OF NEOLIBERAL RETARD JOE BIDEN BOMBING CHILDREN. god
>>82464795Its just first world idiocy just as >>82464834 states these people are so completely entitled and detached from reality they see violence as entertaining People who actually have witnessed it know how evil the world can truly be
>>82466849>t fulfills something that was fundamentally missing from my lifehow old are you kek
>>82466829like please before you say socialism is liberal please fucking look up "is socialism liberal" on google like please please PLEASE
>>82466849You want to fuck ur dad Other hoes hate their dad
>>82466872you are so detached from reality you find 4chan entertaining
>>82466883who gives a shit thoughever
>>82466829Even in your definition of 1792 left v right you were agreeing that liberalism is right wing, what are you on about? You literally said>i'm arguing against the idea that liberalism has ever been on the left.What is wrong with your brainworms, dude? Take your meds.
Today I will remind them: Trooning out beats the alternative.
>>82466909is that why troons commit suicide at a far greater rate than the normal population? nearly 50% of troons off themselves, apparently
>>82466909Killing yourself because of women and trooning out just so you don't die an incel is a thing only weaklings and inferiors do.41%
>>82466900the guy im fuckinG TALKING TOO oh my fucking god
>>82466871>socialism isnt liberalism.ok what is social democracy then lmao.>communism is not liberal the soviet union was kept afloat through its collaboration with liberal democracies>neither is fascismdebatable. italian fascism shares the liberal obsession with institutions and checks and balances. arguably only nazism, maoism, arab nationalism, islamism and stalinism count as statism in the 20th century>WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GRAPH SHOWS DOMESTIC POLITICAL TERRORISM DUE TO ONE MOTIVE OR ANOTHERthen what the fuck is even your point? how can you argue that conservatism is more violent than liberalism when genocide occurred under the stewardship of ur-liberal joe biden?>>82466883social democracy and marxism have many liberal elements and argue from liberal moral principles based on human rights. the central premise of marxism- that the proles are oppressed and exploited is based upon a liberal worldview where that is bad/ violates human rights.>>82466905yeah, at that moment i was in response to you saying i think conservatism is left-leaning. again, if you really want to think that i was agreeing with you from the start here;>only if you have a retarded definition of left and rightthen you are free to do so. you're the one who objects to the idea that you have a retarded definition of left and right, not me. i fully accept your definition is retarded. i think liberalism is NOT leftist, not that liberalism is right-leaning which i guess you could say if you think that political ideologies are either left-wing or right-wing, which i don't. but again idrc that much because i agreed with you from the beginning, with the caveat that your definitions of left and right are retarded.
>>82466954he clearly doesn't care, and neither does anybody else retard
>>82466896>Insulting me instead of addressing my argument Just say that you're mad nigger
>>82464795Are you crying about leftist making fun of chudmeister after you spent an entire day spamming TND threads and mocking that ukrainian girls death because she supported BLM?
>>82466963im telling as before, the guy goes around every thread feigning retardation and starting shit. IGNORE him.
>>82466970umm you think this helps the libtard case somehow?
>>82466813Yea, spics are the most white worshipping catholicucks on the planet, of course you think it was horrible. You literally have more empathy for whites than your own "Race"
>>82466984Sounds like that guy is just human and you're an insane person.
Socialism is based and the correct ideology of every true RobotSeize the means of reproductionUniversal health care, universal basic incomeTax the richWith the level of automation and efficiency provided by modern technology there is no reason for 40-hour work weeks to exist (except for the wealthiest 1% to buy mansions/yachts/child-slaves)
>>82466984How can people write this and not see how evil they are?You are getting mad because someone finds killing people bad. Leftist are subhumans, Jesus.
>>82466984Why do leftoid trannies such ash you hate your own race?
>>82466963there was no argument youre just fucking retarded. are you asian? i smell onions sauce near you
>>82467013that guy clearly is not a leftist
>>82467013>You are getting mad because someone finds killing people bad. Leftist are subhumans, Jesus.Yeah, it's been a really radicalizing day. Leftists making excuses for that girl that was brutally murdered yesterday and then today openly celebrating some random politics guy being murdered...it's like what in the hell is wrong with them?
>>82466970it should be legal to shoot 6yo liberals for watching black panther
>>82466984You know these killings are common in Latin America. Mexico had like 10+ politically motivated deaths last election cycle (cartels of course). It's not surprising to be annoyed of it happening in a better nation
>>82466958>with the caveat that your definitions of left and right are retarded.We already went through both of our definitions and you said that liberals were on the right in both of them. Where did the girondins sit again? The undisputed origin of the term, was it? You're a fucking clown, dude.
>>82467056>Mexico had like 10+ politically motivated deaths last election cycle (cartels of course).Will the cartels ever be beaten mexicbro?
>>82467058no i said that liberals supported those who sat on the right during the national assembly and sat on the right during the convention. also, this was in the context of 1792 in the french equivalent of the senate. in the wider context of royalism vs leftism liberals were merely supporters and fellow travellers of royalism rather than being royalists, much like how today they merely indirectly support the ruling class rather than being a part of it or directly supporting it. you were saying that liberalism IS a right-wing ideology in the present day which is a retarded definition of right-wing. again, you have no ability to follow an argument.
>>82467094You're the one that said liberalism hasn't changed at all in 230 years. So which is it? When, in your view, did liberalism stop being right-wing?
>>82467119i didn't even say that liberalism is right-wing in that post lmao. again, i am only saying that liberalism is right-wing if you accept a retarded definition of left and right. your job is to explain how your definition of right-wing isn't retarded or to admit that it's a retarded definition. why am i constructing both sides of this argument.
>>82465668we just had a string of retarded leftoid trannies shooting up christian schools. your pet niggers also count, so no, it's you by a wide margin. you co-sign their behavior so you own it. fuck you faggot. i fucking wish right leaning retards were anywhere near as radical and violent as you concern trolling shitlib fucks say, you need to be excised from our societies, you are a fucking retarded death cult of ugly inside and out mutants who live off spite and malice and sharing a civic space with you is a fucking ignominy. die, cretin. expire right now you fucking cunt.
>>82467082Not without bloodshed no. Corruption is rampant
>>82465668>>82465671rightoids define political violence in a way where people getting blown up by US bombs or poor people dying young because they can't afford medicine/food/shelter doesn't count
>>82467172because those aren't political violence, so why you're trying to pretend they are is very strange and immediately marks you as someone not arguing in good faith.but who am I kidding? a leftist arguing in good faith? literally never happened
>>82467148You're the one that has a hard-on for the seating arrangement of the French Revolution. Put the pieces of your own argument together. You've already agreed with me that liberalism is right-wing under both MY definition of left-right and YOUR definition of left-right.
>>82467149consult the graph i replied with earlier showing stats of poltiical violence. it genuinely seems to me that you have no understanding of formal logic at all and how one idea relates to another. i WISH leftists were as radical as you fucking retards, magaoids literally broke into the fucking capitol. i just dont understand how we can see the same reality of objective facts and somehow come to 2 vastly different conclusions; this seems logically impossible, unless you are severely fucking retarded also youre more than likely a virgin so go get some pussy while youre at it kid trust me being on 4chan isnt gonna help with that you fucking faggot
>>82465736>On paper, leftists should be the good guys.opens with a retarded statement>All leftists want to do is overthrow oppressors and save the downtrodden.goes on to say retarded shit, denying context. learn about nietzsche's corruption of the weak and how weakness perverts. anyone operating from a radical position of victimhood will invariably be morbidly cruel, bitter and vengeful which is what the contemporary leftist dogma revolves around, power structures and victimhood narratives. there's nothing noble or "good guy-like" about "overthrowing oppressors" without a fucking abundance of context to go into what exactly that means, because scum fuck leftists use arbitrary means to define what an oppressor is and once you start going down the path of arbitrage to dehumanize targets and signal them for killing you have already lost any claim to moral authority. ever heard any of these morons say "punch a nazi?" now conceptualize how unrealistic it is to claim anyone is related to a german movement from nearly a hundred years ago in the modern age, and who exactly is setting the terms and parameters for what constitutes such a person.
>>82467182>You've already agreed with me that liberalism is right-wing under YOUR definition of left-right.no i fucking haven't lol.>in the wider context of royalism vs leftism liberals were merely supporters and fellow travellers of royalism rather than being royalists, much like how today they merely indirectly support the ruling class rather than being a part of it or directly supporting it.i agree that it's not leftist and it opposed leftism, but not that it's right-wing. if you're going to call liberalism right-wing then your definition of right-wing is dumb.
>>82466317>Mental illness. I used to be a leftard but my views started changing during Covid.good lad
>>82467221What's your definition of right-wing?
>>82467236is the ruling class or directly supports the ruling class
>>82467181they're violence and they're perpetrated by the state (and this is hardly a strange idea, it goes back to Engels and social murder, if not earlier; do you have any familiarity with left-wing thought? )I'm attacking the legitimacy of "political violence" as a special category bracketed off from all the other people the state kills, one which we should care about more
>>82464802op have women? op chad!
>>82467257And does liberalism fall under that in the modern world?
>>82467325nah not really yo
>>82465675most humans factual deserve to die
>>82465882>This glorified yes man that is tailored to agree with me has agreed with me therefore you are STUPIDYou are lobotomized
>>82466977Thats the pointThere is no case for rightoids, they made it clear they are hateful demons who alienate and generalize anything different. No point wasting time trying to please them anymore when they are proudly erasing facts and history
>>82466993He wasnt being human when charlie spent last 5 years normalizing racism and white nationalism or when he turned the deaths of those dem senators into a political spectacle. You may as well give up the moral brigade because no one is buying it lol
They are retards that can't breed. They are miserable freaks and everyone with eyes can just look at them and see their pain.
>>82464795Gas chambers and helicopter rides for all of them.
>>82464795your lot calls for killing of anyone you disagree with, your argument is disingenuous, OP I suggest a quick exercise in dangling by the neck on a rope attached to a ceiling fan.
>>82465786very based Kyoko
>>82466813white women are cartoonishly evil when it comes to their own men
>>82464795They should all be killed. Though UBI and Keynes' 15 hour week is very based, and should have happened in the West already, instead of growing wage-slavery, open-borders mass-immigration, and mass-outsourcing to slaves. The left want open borders, the right want cheaper slaves. Globalism is a race to the bottom, and the road to slavery. I'd much rather have an automated autarky NatSoc ethno-state, to be honest.
>>82464795Bloodthirsty animals who need to be put down.
>>82464795Jew copies. They strike you while saying they're the victims. If you want control and power, just say so, don't try to hide it behind le feminism, trans, gay rights, etc.
>>82465882shitskins really think that chatpgt is some deity thats always rightscary times ahead, you fucking subhuman
>>82465912China is national socialist and it's the most powerful nation on EarthChina proves that racial nationalism is superior to antiwhite brown worshipyou lost
>>82465951>>82465970>CHATGPT SAID IT SO ITS CORRECT!literal shitskin tier intelligence
>>82466109>The racist right is utterly irrelevant politicallyAmong white people, ONLY right wing, conservative, religious people have a replacement birthrateleftists are infertile, get vasectomies, kill their babies, choose to become ugly and not have children, troon their childrenThe end result is pretty clear, the White people of the future are the right wingers, your kind is literally going extinctwho is irrelevant? 50 years from now there'll be no such thing as a White leftist
>>82469779Generations don't die out in 50 years, obviously. Obviously the US population gain is much larger in black/hispanic communities, extra especially to repealing abortion.
>>82469779That's why leftist teachers groom the children of right-wingers through the public education sector, using your taxpayer money.
>>82469779if you can't give those right-wing, conservative, religious people a decent standard of living, and let the rich squeeze them dry, their kids won't follow them ideologicallymy parents are well to my right and I'm not alone, consider all the memes about thanksgiving gatherings turning into fights
>>82467559Ad hominem. You have no argument against the facts, so you have to attack the presentation. I'm not a zoomer. I know how to proofread and look up my own facts. Do you?
>>82469819>the schools, media, movies, and celebrities tell me what to believe from an early age>i believe all those things but actually its just because of the living standards under republicansmakes sense. i just wish progressives understood that they are the ones most closely aligned with the western elites and not misunderstood rebels
>>82464795It's cooler when they're being open about wanting to kill lots of people rather than pretending to be the side of kindness and empathy or whatever
>>82465866>uhm, ackshually the dead troon that died celebrated a christian school shooting that happened before he died AFTER he died.>Checkmate, chud.