>every single liberal in the country is saying that Charlie Kirk deserved to be brutally murdered in front of his wife and children for holding beliefs that are more moderate than mine
How are people just now realizing what the left represents?
>>82507827I thought Sam was just being edgy and provocative. I didn't realize it was literally an accurate description of almost every single individual on the left.
>>82507812His kids werent there. He himself was a proponent of the very gun laws that ended up getting him killed. Republicans have killed a Democratic senator to be mention or fanfare from the right. All in all, shut the fuck up pussy. You want to curate a violent world, that violence will find it's way back to you as well.
>>82507812They were always pro violence, it was obvious looking at every protest they made, its good some clueless normies are seeing now that they arent peace loving as woke shows paint them
>>82507854>He himself was a proponent of the very gun laws that ended up getting him killed.He was killed with a hunting rifle than nobody on the left has even considered trying to ban.
>>82507812Kirkenstein died of a fent overdose albeitever.
>>82507854You mean the gun free zone on the UVU campus?He didn't have a concealed carry permit or a murder permit
>>82507812That's why we need to genocide them anon. Violence usually is the solution. Denying that is to deny the very nature of this planet
>>82507812>every single liberalStop over generalizing. There are plenty of liberals who blatantly disagree with what happened and think that political violence and assassinating someone is morally reprehensible, and even directly that killing Charlie was the wrong thing to do.It is a very specific subset of liberals who think that.
>>82507885Many on the left are anti gun as a whole>>82507890Charlie Kirk had in previous years pushed to expand concealed carry laws in utah. He'd even said some gun deaths were an inevitability and worth it for our 2nd amendment rights. I don't agree with that but it's his own idea that contributed to his death.
>>82507854>His kids werent thereThey were. His daughter even tried to run to him because she got scared by the gun sound.
womp wompcaptcha djk20
>>82507854>His kids werent there.Yes, they were, you lying piece of shit.
>>82507923I always wonder about the "vocal minority" argument. Is it just a comforting cope? Why don't the non-retards speak out as much?
>>82507928If someone thought that cars should be legal despite the million or so people who die in car accidents every year, would you mock them for dying in a car accident?
>>82507812I don't think anyone (besides Twitter scum) has said he deserved to be murdered. It's just funny that an NRA mouthpiece, who said "a few deaths" is acceptable as long as 2A is upheld became one of the few gun deaths himself.He'll be replaced by another grifter in a month, don't worry.
>>82507812You losers trying to pretend that "the left has gone too far" is more annoying every time you try it.
>>82507854So what you're saying is we should actually just kill every leftist.
>>82507827A quote that has aged like fine wine.
>>82507923I don't think so dude. I've seen these people. They're otherwise normal people with normal jobs. You see them every day and think they're normal, but they genuinely believe conservatives need to die. If the pro-murder left is the minority, then it's like 45% of leftists.
>>82507932This is fiction made up by a tiktoker, his wife and daughter were not at his debate>>82507969This is more akin to someone lobbying to repeal food safety then dying of food poisoning
>>82507928>He'd even said some gun deaths were an inevitability and worth it for our 2nd amendment rights.This is just a fact. Do you think we should outlaw cars? Last year 40k people died to cars, and 30k people died to guns. Roughly 25k of those deaths are SUICIDE. Let's be conservative and say there's actually about 10k violent gun deaths. And there's 40k car deaths.Does the utility of cars outweigh the 40k car deaths? Or do we outlaw cars?>>82507962They do speak out. Hell, even Destiny spoke out against it. It's just that the people being reasonable aren't the ones who have the loudest voices. It's the irrational people screaming "HE DESERVED IT!!" that gets everyone's attention.
>>82507812There's monsters everywhere no matter their politic orientation. I'd never wish death on anyone over their opinions, that is insanity
>>82507812>>every single liberalGeneralizing your adversaries again you little chud? Lying deceitful serpent
>>82507969>>82507996There's no right to Automobiles in the constitution. California could ban non-driverless cars on the road to 0 auto casualties.
>>82507827>>82507827>>82507812You really have a short memory, don't you chud? Gold fish ideology
Reminder to anyone reading this, it doesn't matter if you agree with liberals on everything but just a few things, those few things are enough to label you a Nazi and thus your entire family needs to be wiped out according to them. They are legit unhinged. Every single liberal coded place is an echo chamber that does not allow diversity of thought. Look at reddit. Look at college campuses. Look anywhere liberals control.
This place is a right wing echo chamber. You can suck kirk's balls in hell, chud
>>82508028Yeah, I remember the entire right wing around the globe lining up to praise this psychopath. That totally happened within your head.
>>82508020That's correct, but we have correctly decided that cars are so beneficial to society in so many ways, that we accept that unfortunately they can kill people. We have amazing machines that we use in factories to create goods at speeds that were unimaginable before, but this means that people will die in industrial accidents that technically could've been prevented by banning these machines. But we aren't going to ban the machines, we aren't going to ban cars, and we aren't going to ban guns, particularly after we've seen how many fellow Americans think it's okay to kill us.
>>82508032>The right diverges more>The divergence
>>82507996>This is just a fact. Do you think we should outlaw cars? Last year 40k people died to cars, and 30k people died to guns. Roughly 25k of those deaths are SUICIDE. Let's be conservative and say there's actually about 10k violent gun deaths. And there's 40k car deaths.Banning guns would significantly reduce deaths in America. Harder licensing laws would probably be a good thing too, like have you seen drivers lately? People drive like they're trying to get killed, it's insane.
>>82508046Many of you still praise him to this very day. You praise worse, you praise hitler himself. Unless you want to tell me that the most extremist examples of a group do not represent the entirety of that group's opinion? But that would mean...
>>82507812rightoids unhinged for 10 years making fun of george floyd and dead niggers and dead immigrants but suddenly develop empathy when its a white guythe fact that the left tries to have morals so anytime we do anything slightly unhinged its always "LOOK, THE PARTY OF TOLERANCE IS BEING INTOLERANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" yet rightoids are openly intolerant and are fucking insane and nobody cares because they all know it anyways and downplay it.glad the retard got shot, hopefully candice owens or whoever is next. live by the gun die by the gun
>>82508062The left threw away "My body My Choice" and "Medical records should remain private" for the sake of lockdowns and mandates.
They are legit feminine baby bitches that are not even adult enough for a grown up conversation. So they praise a weak cowardly pussy who hides out on a building sniping unarmed people.
>>82508073And after the pandemic was over, all went back to normal.Almost like desperate circumstances demand exceptional deeds, and all your alarmist whistleblowing amounted to nothing: the world resume to normal life before the pandemic
>>82508046The entire left wing isn't praising kirk's murder at all. That's also a strawman you've built in your head.
>>82508020It's not about the constitution. It's about the underlying premise upon which the argument is built. Which people use to oppose the idea that Charlie put forward, "said some gun deaths were an inevitability and worth it for our 2nd amendment rights."The underlying premise is that the deaths are NOT worth it. But if 10k deaths are not worth owning guns, are 40k deaths not worth owning cars?It's simply a way of highlighting they do not actually believe what they say. It's just an echoed talking point. >>82508064>Banning guns would significantly reduce deaths in America.No it would not. There's 3million deaths per year.30k of those are gun deaths20k of those are suicide.10k deaths are violent.The 20k suicides are going to find a way to die, regardless.The 10k violent deaths will still exist if gun laws are more strict.Best case scenario is you cut the 10k deaths by 30%. 3k people in a pool of 3m dying is not a significant change. It's 1% of 1%. It's 0.001%. The number went from 3,000,000 deaths to 2,997,000 deaths. And this is your best case scenario in all actuality.
>>82508046The right wing literally celebrated the pulse nightclub shooting where 49 gay people were killed and Trump recently destroyed the memorial. You weren't here to see the celebration from your incel brethren because you were a school kid in 2016
>>82508091Go ban some more people from your subreddit that doesn't toe the line, you pussy.
>>82507996>Does the utility of cars outweigh the 40k car deaths?No. If deaths actually matter. If our lives matter. We should be doing everything we possibly can to get that number as close to zero as possible. Otherwise why should I get all weepy for a school that got shot up meanwhile a family of four just got scraped off the highway because some idiot was texting? Dead is dead. Shouldn't matter how you got there.>Or do we outlaw cars?We already have a zillion regulations on them. Try driving without a seat belt, or working headlights, or a fucking rear view mirror. You can be financially penalized or lose your license. Cars are unbelievably regulated, so keep regulating them until it's hard to kill anyone. Tell manufacturers no commercial vehicle can go over 25 mph. Mandate every car needs a roll cage and front, side, and back airbags. It CAN be done. We can regulate cars so no one dies, but we won't. Just like we won't ban guns. Cuz muh freedom. Yeah, try expressing your freedom by possessing a gram of the wrong mushroom.
>>82508101People actually have lost their jobs for praising kirk's murder, showing that cancel culture works both ways. You have no arguments
>>82507854I don't think he ever supported any proposed laws to make murder legal, whether the murder is committed with or without guns. You might just be very stupid and misunderstood what he meant.
>>82508084No forgiveness for lockdown demons
>>82508032The diversity of thought in the right wing is which group should be culled first, black immigrants or queers.
>>82508125So you admit that your paranoia was unfounded, that your fears of the government using lockdown as a pretext to impose autocratic permeant changes in society were delusions of your delirious mind
Hitler 2 is comingI hope you're all aware of that and not hiding your heads in the sand
>>82508105dumbest bait
>>82508147And who will he be, anon?
Total Leftist Death is inevitable at this point
>>82508163Total incel death would resolve the right wing tumor in our country
>>82508121He practically said everything but. This whole act of pretending he was just a regular guy is so tiresome. He believed in repealing the civil rights act, like fuck off.
>>82508032>that picrelThis is why increasingly you see men separating themselves from leftists politics. Liberals want conformity. Complete submission to their rigid ideology. Men with any testosterone in their body will not submit.
>>82508105>No.Yes, it does. Nothing in life is perfect. If you're aiming to disassemble everything that is imperfect, you will have nothing.The utility a car brings far outweighs the deaths. The entirety of western society is built upon the framework of cars. >We already have a zillion regulations on them.There's a bunch of similar regulations when you're using a gun.
>>82508159it could be anyone
>the country is divided?! how could this be??>t. rightoid who thinks the entire west is ran by jews who want to exterminate us and that liberals are satanist pedoshello? are you ok guys?
>>82508182Men separate themselves from leftism because they want patriarchy back to rule over women, and the patriarchal abrahamic religions they preach about are the very foundation of the conservative ideology
>>82508084not everyone has that choice. but the left treats us like eggs to be broken in their social experiment
>>82508171>He believed in repealing the civil rights act, like fuck off.I love that you idiots just take that to mean that he thought black people shouldn't have rights, and take it completely at face value rather than thinking that maybe there must be more to his reasoning, and maybe that you couldn't become as prominent and respected as he was if that was something he actually believed.
>>82508201A man like that is a one in a generation thing. The best you have are trump and putin, and neither of them have the guts and insanity of the little mustache weirdo
>>82508201>faggot loses his first war and kills himself
>>82508222All it takes for your sympathy to disappear is for that 11 year old child to be trans. Then you will laugh at their suicide.
>>82508222>not everyone has that choiceWhat are you talking about, dumbass, pandemic is over, lockdown is over, social distancing is over. Everything was over. Your fear mongering was a lie, your fake news were lies. The right wing is the party of propagating lies after all. After kirk's death you tried to blame not one, not two, but three trans people in a row, completely unrelated to the case.
>>82508222It's true. The left is focused on the collective, and the right cares about people as individuals. That's why a Ukrainian girl can get stabbed to death on the train by a career criminal who had committed many violent crimes before, and had been released from jail fourteen times. Because leftists want to believe that people are blank slates and that they can always be rehabilitated, and so when they let a violent savage out of jail and he murders an innocent person, that's just an unfortunate accident that's bound to happen once in a while, but they're not too broken up over it, because they are more concerned with the idea that they could have a system that could make everyone act the way they envision, and they don't care how many people are hurt in the meantime.
>>82508233Yeah man it's all about the layers. He was a college dropout provocateur who preyed on the wallets of retards like you lmfao. In any case he got what was coming, rest in hell.
>>82508233He actually believed that, but as usual with conservatives, he danced around his words carefully, like a deceitful preacher, to hide his racism behind a thin facade
>>82508268Leftists are so empathetic and kind.
>>82508273Why did so many blacks work with him and say he's not racist if he was racist. Are they racist against themselves?
>>82508237J.D. Vance... he'll be our next Hitler
>>82508261Gender dysphoria can't be encouraged, but you want kids suffering from gender dysphoria to do the same thing they have done before 1960: suck it up and repress, no matter how many of them kill themselves along the wayYou don't mourn for them. You are the reason behind their struggle.
>>82508277refer to prior post>>82508068
>>82508287>Literally campaigned against trump Oh please, a shape shifting politician with no principles who will bend over to the highest bribe. That ain't no hitler, baby. You're out of options
>>82508294>You made jokes about a violent scumbag who robbed pregnant women at gunpoint after overdosed near a police officer, and yet you think it's wrong to celebrate the murder of an innocent man? I guess that makes you a hypocrite, huh?
>>82508197>tens of thousands of deaths>"imperfection"If beets caused tens of thousands of deaths, should stores keep selling them?If seagulls caused tens of thousands of deaths, would you want to eradicate them?If escalators killed tens of thousands of people, would you ride one?Why are cars so protected that they can slaughter us with impunity and we bow before the machine and say, "there is no other way"?ANYTHING else would be halted immediately and we'd come together to put a stop to it. Cars though? More fucking sacred than Jesus' foreskin.
>>82508084>And after the pandemic was over, all went back to normal.Pandemic is over? lolRussia invaded Ukraine this trumped pandemic. I clearly remember in Russian autumn 2021 new rounds of absolutely draconian and bizarre covid restrictions put on people just of pure spite. But then war started and *puff* everything fine. Need to give people breathing space somewhere when war restrictions are implemented too. Everything about covid was forgotten, can't maintain clown show when you have more pressing matter of war. Just yellow paint lines of "social distancing" still remain.
>>82508267The right doesn't care about "individuals". The right wing cares about defending the right of billionaires and the mega rich. Defending their right to be born wealthy and to hoard it all. That's all there is to it. The right doesn't care about any individuals if they are women or minorities. Only straight men. Only straight white men.
>>82507854ah yes, the gun laws killed him. let me show you the thousands of people who have been shot and killed in gun free zones
>>82508307Me... I will be Hitler.
>>82508334>RussiaAn authoritarian state. Why are you comparing free countries to a country without freedom? All western countries lifted all pandemics restrictions. Your fear mongering was just a lie.
I love it when the most active thread on my virgin board is /pol/shit
>>82508313a random thug vs a guy who made a career off of stoking the flames of politics and dividing our country. you can frame it anyway you want, retardkirk literally said verbatim "joe biden should be put to death for treason against this country". if you want to be edgy and make fun of kikes and niggers on 4chan, go ahead, i think its funny. but im not taking you serious when you have absolutely no values to stand for
>>82508334>can't maintain clownYou can, but covid takes the lives of the weakest, the elderly and the kids, Putin doesn't care at all about them. The clown show was real. You are the clown, you lonely chud
>>82508371I think the people dividing the country are the people who murdered him and then celebrated the murder and said that he deserved it, not the guy asking college kids if they could explain what a woman is.
>>82507812not beliefs, political advocacyif you're a normie you're fine desu, if you're a talking head like he was be afraid
>>82508313You joke about teenagers who committed suicide too, as long as they're queer.
>>82508379>american politics started on september 10th, 2025>let me ignore the last 10 years of trump and maga being the most divisive people on the planeti wish i was dense as you so i could drift through life without a care in the world
>>82508406Can you tell me what a woman is?
>>82507980>mocking a dead subhuman criminal drug addict monkey is equivalent to mocking an economically productive White man with the belief system of a conservative from the 1970's
>>82508411See you should just not pretend at the decorum stuff though. I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead and you don't get to pretend you're above that sentiment lol
>>82508379Only one person murdered him, and you think the country was unified prior to it, you are just dishonest
>>82508418Okay, I was just wondering if you could tell me what a woman is.
>>82508417>With the belief system of a kkk party member The only thing keeping him from nazism is being a jew
>>82508340The left is Collectivist, believing in things like climate change social justice or systemic racism. Right wants people who are fatally ill to have a right to try medication not approved by the FDA, right to own weapons. If right wing states violated laws like left wing states with "sanctuary cities" they could basically ignore endangered species acts or gun restrictions. Being able to build on your land even if there's an endangered species living there or buying a silencer for your MP5 does not "defend the rights of billionaires and the mega rich"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/18/biden-ban-gas-powered-car-salesBanning gas powered cars when the average cost of an electric vehicle is $40,000-50,000 prices poor people out of vehicle ownership https://lawnlove.com/blog/california-green-lawn-care-law/Banning gas lawn mowers.https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/09/berkeley-natural-gas-ban-lawsuit-repealBerkeley tried banning natural gas stoves.Are these laws protecting the environment or making things more difficult for poor people?
>>82508435You should have asked charlie, now you lost your chance
>>82508432>Only one person murdered himAnd then everyone saw the average liberal who lives down the street celebrating it and saying he deserved it. You can't put that toothpaste back in the bottle. Every conservative can now see that endorsing the murder of conservatives is a mainstream belief on the left. Not even conservative politicians. Just anyone at all who holds these views.
>>82508456His answer would've been that a woman is an adult human female. What would your answer be?
>>82508457>the average liberal who lives down the street celebrating itNo.You saw every right winger celebrating the suicide of a dead teenager though, and you're silent about it. You are biased as fuck, blind to your projections.
>>82508435youve been brain broken by russian propaganda. being pro america should mean opposing disgusting slav tankies and the ussr. yet you think the actual problem is transvestites. i really hope russia takes more land and starts some shit so you guys can have a rude awakening
>>82508465>would've beenand is no more
>>82508478Alright, but what is a woman?
>>82508482Woah, look out for this edgy guy.
>>82508484>I can't continue this conversation without making it about genderA true gender ideologue
>>82508478Why should I care about Russia and Ukraine? Poland is in NATO. That's where our interests and our security alliance begin by international law
>>82508491But I don't know what a woman is and I'm just hoping someone could give me a definition.
https://www.tiktok.com/@jordanthegreywitch/video/7548541538113031438read the replies, read the little bundles tooliterally only white women in there, nothing else
>>82508453Climate change is like evolution, anon. The evidence is out there. Your feelings and beliefs are inconsequential. >Be right winger>Science denier Who could have thought that the party of lies wouldn't like discussing truths
>>82508484what is a chair? what is a sandwich? is a stool a chair? is a bed a chair? you can sit on a bed right, and it has all the qualifications of a chair, yes? is a boat a car? what if a boat has an engine and wheels, would it make it a car?the reddit debater has logged on. if you liked kirk so much then go join him, retard
>>82508498>don't know what a woman isdumb virgin
>>82508478>being pro america should mean opposing disgusting slav tankies and the ussryou're going back mykola and they have a van ready for your ass
>Post on 4chan, /r9k/, /pol/>"Dead Nigger" folder, "Troonjak" folder, "Globohomo" folder, "Day of the rope" folder, "Deport Shitskins" folder, hundreds or thousands of ebic memes celebrating death and violence"It's just a joke nigger! Hey look another nigger got killed by a cop for a suspected misdemeanor! One step closer to total nigger death! What, did I offend you snowflake niggers? LOL I'm so funny">One white guy dies in one of the two school shootings that day, as a direct result of the values he's made a small fortune shilling and pushing (especially toward young people- like the shooter)"D-do you really think someone would joke about that? What do you mean he reaped what he sowed? Guys he owned a wife and kids. This isn't like those other 100 school shootings this year alone, completely different! Censor yourselves now or I'LL FUCKIN KILL YOU"
What is the difference between fetishes and sexual identities?I like tanlines. My friend likes redhead. What's the difference between this and being a demisexual or non-binary?
I agree with these leftoids. Spare us the moralfaggotry, conservacucks.
>>82508515Probably like the difference between being a volcel and an incel
>>82508514If someone who said "we should keep cars legal even if there is auto fatalities" is killed by an automobile would you call him a hypocrite like you are calling Charlie?
>>82508495russia is anti america. are you aware of that or no?>>82508513the problem isnt an enemy superpower that finds our country abhorrent, our true enemy is gay people. good one
>>82508507I don't know, but what is a woman?
>>82508501Do you think this represents the whole group? Zero real life experience makes you take the internet as you frame for reality
>>82508501I think in the future we'll realize that overmedicating almost the entire female population was probably a bad idea.
>>82508527Iran chants death to America more than RussiansThe middle east calls America the great Satan and Israel the mini Satan
>>82507962>Why don't the non-retards speak out as much?They do. Your algorithm avoids them and focuses on rage-baiting you nonstop. I can't even blame you, since It's rage-baiting everyone who is chronically online.The fact that a political youtuber is becoming known to boomer normies is really a sign of the end times. We've all lost. At least my kids are smart and might be of use to our technozionist overlords.
>>82508540They are based and I agree with them
>>82508530mind broken by social issues that get fed to you. the year is 2025 and the most important thing to you in the world is what trannies identify as. not the president spending 40 million dollars sending the national guard to washington, or hiding his connections to the most notorious pedophile of all time.>muh trannies muh women
>>82508453>Being able to build on your land even if there's an endangered species living there or buying a silencer for your MP5 does not "defend the rights of billionaires and the mega rich"Right, but being against better wages, while actively promoting a smaller state with fewer taxes and less restrictions on the mega rich and their monopoly industries, while having no public health system or public universities is also right wing ideology aimed to benefit billionaires. And how do these billionaires gain your vote? They stoke the fires of your hatred for queers blacks and immigrants
>>82508540did you know russia finds iran proxy groups? did you know they kill american soilders? do you know anything about trannies or ukraine funding iranian proxy groups that kill american soilders?
>>82508530What is an incel? >>82508453>species living there or buying a silencer for your MP5And just like that the right winger reveals his priorities Buying gun parts like toys an
>>82508551Bro I just want to know what a woman is.
>>82508556funds* not finds
>>82507962They definitely speak out a lot. All leftist creators I follow spoke with sympathy for kirk's family. You are deaf to these examples You consciously only care about the examples that further your narrative
>>82508559charlie kirks single widowed wife is a woman. does that suffice?
>>82508559Something you'll never get, so don't worry about it much
>>82508565No, that does not actually answer the question. I'm looking for an actual definition.
>>82508535>Do you think this represents the whole group?No, no. It represents the demographics of this specific group. I'm not saying it's all white women, I'm saying that this clique is almost exclusively staffed by white women, all the NGOs, all the activists, it's basically only white women.
>>82508453>gas powered cars>Lawn mowers>StovesWhat a non issue. You really had to dig and that's the worst you could find? Biden probably did a good job then.
>>82508551>the president spending 40 million dollars sending the national guard to washingtonI live in DC and this is based.
>>82508578a woman is a type of person that will never have sex with you. does that suffice?
>>82508453>protecting the environment or making things more difficult for poor people?Trump cutting down medicaid is definitely not helping poor people nor the environment
>>82508564The problem is that I don't believe them. Not most of them. You can't call people evil nazis, white supremacists, fascist monsters, and then pretend to be upset when they're killed.
>>82508526Dishonest comparison. We are forced to use cars because boomers designed society around having access to at least one.I don't need a gun to go grocery shoppingAmerican car culture needs to be overhauled and largely phased out for efficient, properly-funded public transit (trams, trains, busses, etc)MAGApublican values are incompatible with living happily. Some day those face-eating leapords you wanted will eat your face, too.
>>82508559https://youtu.be/r3Pr1_v7hswI wanna know what love isI want you to show me
>>82508586the "dont tread on me" folks and the "i dont trust the government" folks and the "fuck the fed glowies" folks and the "trump and doge will cut federal waste" folks are okay with wasting 40 million dollars on sending the national guard to stop 1 or 2 crack dealers
>>82508589I don't understand why it's so hard for you to just answer the question. It seems like such a simple question but nobody answers it, they just get all angry and give smartass remarks instead of answering the simple question.
>>82508599I'm not and never have been a libertarian, I want the state to crush people I dislike. Nigger criminals in DC happen to be some of them.
>>82507923Whenever anyone says "there's plenty of XYZs" there are literally like 2 XYZs in the whole world"Plenty" is always a lie
>>82508591We never believe when you right wingers pretended sympathy for dead kids in school shootings while promoting gun culture, or when you pretend to care about dead suicidal teenagers who struggle with gender issues, or when you pretend you care about immigrants in any shape or form, but c'est la vie
>>82508591>You can't call people evil nazis, white supremacists, fascist monsters,How is that any different from rightoids in this very thread calling leftists violent terrorists who are incompatible with civilization and who should be purged?
>>82508609It's not, there's literally thousands of leftists saying political violence is not the way. You are biased as fuck, chud. You only care about what suits your narrative
>>82508326>tens of thousands of deathsIt's literally less than 10k a year for guns. The population of the US is 340M.340,000,000,00040,000 die to carsThat's 1% of 1% of 1%. 0.0001% of the population dies to cars. It's a non issue. Just like gun violence. >If beets caused tens of thousands of deaths, should stores keep selling them?You would be better off using something like cigarettes for this example. My answer would be no. If people want to ingest things which have a chance of killing them, that's their choice. >If seagullsThat's a completely separate idea entirely. Seagulls do not represent any sort of freedom of the citizens. It's just a wild animal. But yes.>If escalators killed tens of thousands of people, would you ride one?Yes. I use cars. Because, again, the benefit outweighs the risk.All of these examples are completely different from each other, and also different from the original two examples I gave.>Why are cars so protectedBecause they represent freedom. You can go where you want when you want. You do not need to rely on anyone else.
>>82508613I do believe that leftism is incompatible with civilization, but even so I don't want to kill leftists. I just want to live in such a way that they won't be able to affect my life. I want to live in a peaceful community where there are no leftists and they are not allowed to enter, but they can all have their little communes and live together there (or probably starve together, if history serves as any indication, but that's for them to deal with)
>>82507812Yes he deserved to die. And no his kids weren't there but they should have been.
>>82508606"i want the state to crush people i dislike" people who think the state will never come down on them. schizo authoritarians aren't exactly known for being rational, you will always be at risk of being next tomorrow
>>82508606>I want the state to crush people I dislike. Nigger criminalsThis is the person saying the left wing is a meanie for joking about kirk
>>82508618Great, now apply your argument to the subhuman leftoids who want to kill people for calling trannies men and saying nigger. You decided live and let live wasn't good enough first, so eat shit faggot.
>>82507854>>82507928Are we just going to pretend leftists didn't go around saying stuff like pic related for half of this decade?
>>82508629It doesn't matter what you believe, you have complained about left wingers dehumanizing rightoids with buzzwords Then you go on to do exactly the same thing. "incompatible with civilization" is just an euphemism. It's just you being duplicitous and serpentine instead of saying like it is. You want leftists gone. But if we go down, we take you with us
>>82508649i will condemn the left once the right starts condemning their side. it has never happened, not once. kirk yourself, retard
>>82508649You're not arguing with actual leftists, you're arguing with limp-dicked liberals.
Gun control is vastly unpopular. It's not 2012 anymore where people may be willing to buy into your horseshit.
>>82508655Correct, I want them physically removed from my community and banned from returning. Leftism always requires the initiation of violence against peaceful people, and you cannot have a healthy society with people who believe that. It needs to be driven out.
>>82508642I'm not calling them meanies, I'm saying right wingers should genocide leftists because they clearly want to kill us for ideas that were considered innocuous 30 years ago.
>>82508664thats okay, then more le epic troony shooters will continue buying rifles and taking our fascist adjacent speakers. dont care
>>82508658Pro-gun leftists are way better than faggot manginas like you
>>82508649Are you going to pretend the right didn't go around saying that for much longer than that?
>>82508674>We should genocide our adversaries >But they started it Nobody believed your lie not even 80 years ago when Hitler said it, people won't believe it now
>>82508679That's not why I posted that. It's not to shame pro-gun leftists. It's to shame limpwristed faggots that still buy into gun control in the era of Peter Thiel, that worry about an authoritarian government. You guys are total tards.
>>82508674>ideas that were considered innocuousThey were never considered innocuous, you just silenced the victims and controlled all media. The internet gave us a voice
>>82508679The first gun laws were the black codeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Codes_(United_States)Passed by Southern Democrats opposing Abraham Lincolns republican party freeing the slave and giving the negro the same rights as whites, those same democrats tried to stop blacks from owning guns That's where gun control goes back to
>>82508515Optics and cultural norms, basicallyIE: Liking feet is a "fetish" because they have minimal sexual dimorphism, and most men tend not focus on them compared to other parts of women. It is deviant, a fetishTanlines draw focus to the boobs, waist, buttocks, and thighs- the parts of the body grls need to keep covered for comfort/legality, It's just another form of framing girls, so it is a "common/standard" sexual identityLiking redheads is an acceptance of the objective cosmic truth to which no argument can be made against.
>>82508700Gun control is good. America is just not ready to let go of their evil habit. You struggled to let go of slavery too
>>82508676guns are literally made for weak effeminate people to defend themselves, kirk yourself retard
>>82508688Sorry, you committed violence against me by telling me to check my White privilege in 2015 so it's justified. After all, you think words are tantamount to murder which is how you justify celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.
>>82508705>The republican party sided with the nigger >160 years ago How the tables have turned
>>82508726>I'm being oppressed for being white>The oppression:
>>82508716EU particularly the UK is becoming dystopian, I wouldn't look to your people for answers>>82508725Enjoy being disarmed under Palantir, dumb fish out of water shitlib
>>82508702Ostracizing tranny freaks and being racist were innocuous until relatively recently, faggot.>>82508734>I'm being oppressed for being a piece of garbage sexual degen cockroach. The oppression: someone posted a troonjak meme and called me sir
>>82508740>becoming dystopianBecause the population is becoming less white and the country is looking like brazil? That's not a dystopia, anon. That's a free country
>>82508099>20k of those are suicide.you honestly think people wouldnt find another method of suicide?japan has a higher suicide rate and they have no guns
>>82508755>Ostracizing tranny freaks and being racist were innocuous>Hating these two groups was totally harmless for me, the one hating The lack of self awareness is just so strong you can smell the ignorance For the oppressor, equality feels like a loss
>>82508091>The entire left wing isn't praising kirk's murder at all.just go on reddit, they clearly are
>>82508371>kirk literally said verbatim "joe biden should be put to death for treason against this country".source?I bet it was taken out of context like the countless other misquotes of him
>>82508766If reddit is the entire left wing, then /pol/ represents the entire right wing And that's one degenerate shit hole a thousand times worse than anything on Reddit
>>82508773He said he should be publicly executed, that he would watch it with joy, and it should be televised
>>82508775>If reddit is the entire left wing, then /pol/ represents the entire right wingreddit has a LOT more people on it than /pol/reddit is a sample of the normie left wing population and yet they're saying this shit>>82508781Source?
>>82508764You hated, or refused to police those who hated White people for decades. Two can play this bullshit words are violence game, how about them apples?
>>82508740>enjoy being disarmed under Palantir, dumb fish out of water shitlibboohoo nigga. cracker got shot and you are mad, im not going to buy a gun because im white and live in the suburbs with a cushy job. kirk yourself, retard>>82508773https://x.com/mattsheffield/status/1758975978833875245
>>82508068george floyd had a drug overdose and you psychotic retards burned down your own neighbourhoods over it
>>82508664>Gun control is vastly unpopular. It's not 2012 anymore where people may be willing to buy into your horseshit.what are you talking about, retard?https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
>>82508789>https://x.com/mattsheffield/status/1758975978833875245maybe he was just being sarcastic or showing how angry he is
>>82508798That poll data has a downward trend.
>>82508805what? since 2011 support for gun control has only gone upI'm pro gun, but you're wrong
>>82508786>reddit has a LOT more people on it than /pol/Because it has way more pages and forums. /pol/ is still a shit hole worse than death that accurately represents the average right winger and their perverted ideology of hatred
>>82508789Enjoy fucking around and finding out then. Your arrogance will be your undoing.
>>82508803and you can have that opinion, but its retarded placating because if a lefty figure said "trump should be executed for his crimes", you know that shit would be spammed everywhere saying how unhinged and insane the radical left is. the standards are not the same
>>82508810Read it again speedreader. 2020 at 66 percent (2020 is peak woke, and I referenced 2012 because gun control arguments were not tired to most people yet)2024 it dropped 10 points.
>>82507812I'll help you outLiberals: "He may have said some mean things, BUT WE SHOULDN'T KILL ANYONE OVER FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Charlie should be remembered as a good American that loved to have open discussions with people"Leftists: "Its unfortunate that he's dead, but we have to remember he said some things that are a threat to many people's lives.We can't paint him as a martyr, especially when he doesn't believe in "empathy" or believes gun deaths are a reasonable cost for less regulations for firearms" Edgelords and Dirtbag Leftists: "Kirk's arguments had more holes than his own neck ""Smokin on a Kirk pack""Boy should've listened to the Wu-Tang Clan and Protect Ya Neck""The shooter was Anti Affirmative Action" "He died from Fentanyl""He's looking up on us right now"
>>82508788>He has a /pol/ folder to justify his chud ideology Words can be invitations for violence, and that's how right wing ideology thrives: indirectly promotion of violence against target scapegoat minorities Everything but the billionaire you voted into power
>>82508817iv had 20 retards like yourself on 4chan and twitter vaguepost threats to me. youre all larping niggers who wont do shit. i will never be in danger because i only say shit online, try to doxx me dumb fag. kirk yourself, retard
>>82508813>Because it has way more pages and forums.okay, so you agree with me?there are far more leftists supporting political violence than right wingerspolls show leftists are far more likely to be in support of political violence
>>82508822So leftists are pro big government?
>>82508788The "hate" against whites pale in comparison to the hatred white men harbor for brown people
>>82508820>2020lmao dudeLook at the overall trend, it's much higher than 2011
>>82508803>He didn't say it!>Actually he said it but he didn't mean it!Moving the goalposts. Right wingers can only argue in circles and fallacies
>>82508068So, if the right acts like niggers then you too get to act like niggers?Get a fuckin grip, this is why nobody takes neither of your politics seriously. You just prove the horseshoe theory time and time again. Death to rights and lefts.
>>82508833If it peaked then dropped down it isn't consistently going up.
>>82508841No, It's just peak irony seeing the right wing cry about tasting their own medicine. It's like the right wing expects us leftists to be the bigger, saner, wiser people in the argument, while the role of liars and instigators is yours
>>82508841unfortunately for you, the fencesitter position is the most cucked position. id rather be an extremist for one side than say "erm erm guys everybody please stopppp everybody is bad achtuallyyy :((( "
>>82508829Leftist do like guns, but the US is a dangerous country and needs strict gun laws. None of these right wingers want to fight tyranny
>>82508759>you honestly think people wouldnt find another method of suicide?No, that's exactly what I'm saying actually. The 20k people that use guns for suicide would just find another way to suicide. Outlawing guns, or even making gun laws more strict doesn't solve anything. The solution to these problems is addressing the underlying cause. Not the symptoms. Banning guns is like using a cough medicine when you have covid. Sure, your cough isn't as bad, but you still have covid. Gun violence is a symptom of a larger issue, and acting as if the symptom is the whole of the illness is stupid.>>82508857The US is not very dangerous. And there is no tyranny of which you speak.
>>82508796and charlie kirk had a bullet overdose and rightoids are threatening civil war. defend it, retard
>>82508857>let the tyrants make the gun lawsYou really fail to see the bigger picture
>>82508825>He has a /pol/ folder to justify his chud ideologyAwww widdle troon troon is grumpy I spent 20 seconds on 4plebs finding a png which exemplifies what I'm talking about.>Words can be invitations for violenceThen I can justify your repression by pointing to instances of leftists dehumanizing White people. Oh no, am I not supposed to use your playbook against you :^O
>>82508831Maybe you should stop breaking the law and shitting outside.
>>82508869>The US is not very dangerousMore mass shootings than middle eastern countries or any country in South America>>82508882>More background checks, banning semi automatics, and waiting lists is literally like hitler
Lol wanting to genocide Chinese and Indians and Africans is somehow a good thing according to you guys.But laughing at Charlie Kirk is a step too far.Big L.
>>82507923> Stop over generalizing.Anon , you have to stop bending over backward to always assume good faith with a fucking "conservative". They know what they're doing. This isn't some sort of fallacious thinking. This person is just fucking lying.
>>82507980I think, and this might shock you, both deaths were bad
>>82508910There's more gun violence in Africa. There's around 15,000 gun murders in Africa per year and less than 10,000 in the US.There's roughly 5 times more gun deaths in South America. There's around 55,000 gun murders in South America.So. No. You're just blatantly wrong.
very Gen Z Stare.
>>82507812Im not saying he deserve it, im saying i dont care.People get shot at schools everyday. Because selfish people want jerk off to their weapons. This guy literally said it was worth it. And spent his life promoting zionism. How is his life worth more than the children in american school or in Gaza?Why should I be sad for a man who never cared about people life that arent fetus?
>>82508910The USA has made up 76 percent of mass shooting around the world between 2010 and 2024
>>82509064In America, 2 people being shot is a mass shooting, in other countries, its a much higher bar
>>82509030Leftists shooting up schools while saying schools shouldnt have armed guards
>>82508679Literally no one says that.
>>82508277Holy fuck is that real?
>>82508371A random thug vs a guy who represented the polar opposite of that, trying to create a society with fewer random thugs who goes around stealing, robbing, abusing drugs, threatening people and ruining society. The left worshipped the random thug while the right appreciated Kirk for having morals and standing up for free speech and open debate. You'd have to be disturbed to not see the difference or think they're equally bad.
>>82508273Why did he believe it? What exactly did he push for in reference to the civil rights act? Even asked yourself that?
>>82507854His kids were there. Gun laws doesn't do much. You're lying and you've lost your morality.
>>82507923There's way too many viral posts across every platform with hundreds of thousands of likes and shares celebrating the murder for it to be a fringe thing. And lefty/liberal streamers have had to apologize to their audience for disavowing the shooter. It's obviously a prevalent issue on that side.
>>82508040Hey Liberal! Catch!
>>82508564Many of them spoke out because if they defended/downplayed the shooting they may become a target themselves and even those who did speak out against it were mocked by their audience.
If you don't want me to have the right to be able to get an abortion then I do think that you should be shot in the head.
>>82509614>thug thug thug thug thugTry human. A human got killed by cops because fuck him, they're cops they can kill who they feel like.>Kirk for having moralsWhich morals? The ones where you say horrible shit and make calls to violence while you rake in millions from sponsors and Israel?>standing up for free speechHow I know you're retarded. Free speech in the constitution does NOT refer to the average cocksucker saying whatever he wants and it NEVER did. It refers to freedom of the press to publish information about anyone however powerful. That's over and done with now that journalists are too scared to be honest anymore. So yeah, go support the first amendment you dumb motherfucker.
>>82507812Yet strangely all these faggots, liberals, and leftist oppose the death penalty. Can someone explain this logic to me?
>>82508775If a left-wing political commentator was shot, there would not be a bunch of conservatives going online with their real names and faces celebrating his death like liberals are doing for Charlie Kirk. This is something that exists on the left and not on the right.
>>82509641Do you know what the vocal minority is? And obviously you're going to see that vocal minority mostly online, where they can exist in echo chambers. This is the problem of spending your time online, or getting your information from online sources or online interaction. The online perspective is heavily skewed towards sensationalism and the most extreme perspectives are the ones which draw the most attention. And sense attention is the currency of the internet, algo's are going to put more attention on the things which are getting the most attention. So, Obviously,What you're going to see is the most extreme perspectives from the most extreme vocal minority. The internet is a sort of metaphor for Plato's cave allegory. Everything you see here is shadows on a wall, and the shadows are created with the specific intent of you seeing a specific thing. You have no idea what's really happening.
>>82507812>moderate he spewed hate. he died in the circumstances he helped create chat shit get bangedrest in piss
>>82510366>If a left-wing political commentator was shotName one. (not a youtuber)We don't worship asshole grifters and pay them millions in speaking fees to repeat bogus talking points so we can nod our heads in agreement.Charlie, Alex, Ben, Rush, Glenn. All exclusively right. All rich. All peddling something. All repeating the same tired shit over and over.
>>82509030He was literally criticizing Israel and had rejected a huge offer from Netanyahu himself to financially back TPUSA. He was a Zionist but he was moving away from that in the end. He was facing a huge amount of criticism for having Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith at his events.
>>82509656>someone whose primary issue is the right to murder her own babies also wants to murder everyone who is against murdering babiesSurprise surprise.
>>82510428If somebody like Van Jones was giving a speech and got shot, every conservative commentator would be condemning it completely and calling for the execution of the killer. Every single one, and your average conservative would be against it too.
>>82507885>He was killed with a hunting rifleThat's basedHe was hunting jews, basically
>>82508417And then rightoids wonder why they need to be culled.
>>82510447>If a black man died, me and all my Stormfront pals would cry and help out.You're being facetious, right? Sometimes it's hard to tell.
>>82510559This is how leftists always argue. They make things up about people and argue against the fictional person they made up instead of who they're actually talking to. When they get called out for their ghoulish behavior, they simply pretend that you do it too even when you don't. There is no one more dishonest than a leftist. Their worldview is based on lies, and all of their arguments are lies as well.
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>>82510582https://voca.ro/123brABKggW8
>>82510578I'm not "arguing", I'm pointing out how stupid your previous statement was. Unless it was a joke, in that case, good one.You're making absurd claims about a theoretical event. That's not a thesis. We're not having an argument.>There is no one more dishonest than a leftistYou'll find me extremely honest, you dumb fuck shitkicker faggot.Make up some more stupid scenarios and I promise I'll mock them as honestly and sincerely as I can.
>>82510648Leftism is pure evil. They celebrate when people with different opinions die, and conservatives do not. It's a simple fact.
>>82507812>for holding beliefs that are more moderate than mineyeah he was just an innocent little guy, he was just a normal dude killed for having opinionsit's not like he ran a $100,000,000/yr media empire donated to directly by the most powerful politicians and lobbying groups in the countryplus israel, whatever happened therei don't care if you have the exact beliefs that he did down to the letter, i don't think you deserve to diebut if you went to israel and kissed the wall and shook netanyahu's hand for money that all changes and i hope you get shot by a sniper
>>82510708Why do you lie as easily as you steal oxigen?
>>82510731He literally rejected money from Netanyahu during his last days on earth.
>>82510731He rejected George Soros money.
>>82510807>He rejected George Soros money.okay? why would a right winger accept it in the first place?>>82510762>t. conspiracy fags on xitterhe spent a decade and a half slobbering israeli dick and balls and running defense for the worst civilian death offensives in modern history
>>82510824And he was changing his mind and saying so openly.
No one in this thread has explained what a woman is
>>82507812None of that's true. Look at any of his recent Videos, they're filled with people who say they didn't agree with him but that he didn't deserve what happened to him. You're a fucking liar and your intention is to fearmonger, scum
>>82508344>I'll set up a heroin shop that imports heroin legally, but create a heroin free zone, this will work.
>>82507812I love it when conservatives do that thing where they browse Twitter for 30 minutes after a major news event and works themselves into a panic because they've convinced themselves that what they see on Twitter is a 100% accurate representation of what people are like in real life despite Twitter being a notoriously toxic psychopathic posting environment that everyone hates using because of those very qualities lmao
>>82512333Nice try faggot, but we've all seen people we know personally celebrating this murder. You can't gaslight us into thinking it's not real.
>>82508601>It seems like such a simple question but nobody answers itSo maybe it's not such a simple question.
>>82507812Welcome to America. This country is deranged, only gonna get worse.
>>82512359I have literally not seen any normie irl celebrating Kirk's murder lmao. This shit does not exist outside twitter memes. Nice try inciting a gay political civil war faggot. Go back to scrolling through RETVRN vhs memes.
>>82507812he openly supported genocide.
The incel shooting board is suddenly crying about Charlie Kirk being too far. Why care about some annoying political grifter? There was just some school shooting with some chud and no one gives a shit.
>>82512448If trannies think that people deserve to die for not supporting trannies, why do they all love Palestine so much? Shouldn't they be thanking Israel for killing all those intolerant Muslims?
>>82512460/pol/troons don't give a shit about school shootings by neo-nazis because to even discuss it is to make themselves look bad by association.Why? Because making lefties look bad by associating "every single liberal in the country" with a handful of curated tweets is how they make themselves feel good. Remember that every accusation is a confession from people with no moral grounding for their beliefs.Cancel culture is bad until WE can do it. Mass media control is bad until WE can do it.You should derive your ethics from your morals. I think shooting people is wrong because I'm a soft little faggot pacifist, but Charlie Kirk was still a cunt so why would I mourn him?
>>82508789>out of context clip where he's saying "I know some of you guys think...."lmao why is every single one of these out of context?
>>82512502>Cancel culture is bad until WE can do it.Yes
>>82507812My beliefs are murdering every liberal so
>>82512538We already knew you fags had no principles. I'm sick of listening to your retarded political posturing. I don't care about Kirk.
>>82512538Wow an illogical strawman painting all your enemies as retards that definitely wasn't something I pointed out in my original post you got me anon.
A lot of left and right faggots are just small dogs barking. In the event of an actual civil war, a bunch of these cunts will be shitting their pants when CHUD/COMMIE militias come to their doorstep to kill them or take them prisoner. "ooooh mmy goooood *sobs* HONEY THEY AER COMING AFTER US" fucking retards.
>>82512582My principles are extremely consistent. If you were singing along to a rap song and you said the n word five years ago, you shouldn't be fired. If you celebrate the murder of an innocent person because he said things you disagree with, you should be fired.
meanwhile it's a federal crime to be anti-semantic and both Christian dogma and leftist secularism is anti-Aryan culture
>>82512413The normiest of normies are getting yeeted from their jobs daily because they can't stop celebrating a political assasination.IDK why you're trying to gasslight everyone when there are people out there literally setting "RIP charlie" displays on fire and destroyed memorials during vigils.
>>82512603My running theory is that the shooter is a chud who really hates Israel.
>>82512594Conservatives weren't getting canceled for endorsing the murder of liberal commentators. They were being canceled for saying there's only two genders. It's extremely dishonest to pretend there's equivalency, or that it's hypocritical to support one and not the other.
>>82512613There is literally zero evidence to support this and mountains of evidence that he was a trannyfucking leftist.
>>82512614Clutch those pearls, fag
>>82512631Wow, what a compelling counter argument. I can see why you guys gave up trying to debate and just shot him instead.
>>82512641>you guysI'm an incel who's sick of politics on /r9k/ I'm not some commie faggot
it might just be me but I have seen significantly more rightoids saying they should kill leftists over this than leftists even talking about it at allit's really interesting how they still see themselves the victim
>>82512469i dont care about identity politics, he supported the genocide in gaza, the US need to stop funding this bullshit
>>82512725>A leftist brutally murdered a conservative commentator and then we all celebrated and said he deserved it, and conservatives are mad for some reason. What a bunch of whiners. The gaslighting doesn't work anymore. The reckoning is here. We've gotten hundreds of you fired already and we're just getting started.
you fags keep posting about the day of the rope, of total nigger death, floyd posting and then turn into moralfags the moment the christian white guy dies
>>82512788I agree with you, and Charlie Kirk was under a lot of pressure in his last few months because he refused to disinvite people like Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith from TPUSA events where they would criticize what Israel is doing. Ben Shapiro was saying that they shouldn't be included, but Charlie thought that their perspective was important and should be heard. He also asking questions about Israel's leadership, even if he generally thought they had the right to respond to terrorist attacks against them.
>>82512829The only way leftist can argue is to make things up about the people they're arguing against to justify the extremely evil things they say.
>>82512818not sure what you're talking about dude. try reading what you're replying to next time.
>>82512865now what's the extremely evil things they say?
>>82507812https://youtu.be/vOV6Cr1_HFs?si=QS8oRCOsapRMtKWTIt's amazing that leftists can hear this and think it's evil or hatred.
>>82507928>He'd even said some gun deaths were an inevitability and worth it for our 2nd amendment rights.You retard.There's a little more before and after this quotation, but here's the relevant part for you.Look it's even your pet retard website fact-checking it for you, snopes:https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gun-deaths-quote/>Now, we must also be real. We must be honest with the population. Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty. Driving comes with a price. 50,000, 50,000, 50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities. But we have decided that the benefit of driving - speed, accessibility, mobility, having products, services - is worth the cost of 50,000 people dying on the road. So we need to be very clear that you're not going to get gun deaths to zero. It will not happen. You could significantly reduce them through having more fathers in the home, by having more armed guards in front of schools. We should have a honest and clear reductionist view of gun violence, but we should not have a utopian one.>You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I - I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.
>>82507854I don't understand how you can justify this when Charlie Kirk had a very firm stance that murder should be illegal.
>>82508099Firstly I agree with your overall point. Just not the specifics what you say.>The 20k suicides are going to find a way to die, regardless.Many, MANY times suicidal people have a climax point and shoot themselves in the moment. Lack of access to guns would make them venture out of their home to jump in front of a train or off a building, or preemptively gather pills making it a non spur of the moment thing. This simply isn't true.>10k violent deaths would still existAlso not true. For sure some of them would, such as stabbings in robberies, but the entire reason we moved to guns instead of swords and spears for our wars is that they're more effective. We simply wouldn't have as much violent deaths if we moved to literally any other primary means of weaponry (unless we somehow found something more effective, which let's be honest would be fucking rad and I'd get one of whatever myself).>>82508105>No. If deaths actually matter. If our lives matter. Lack of vehicles for transport would mean a reduction in things like food transport, forcing our large population to subsist on essentially preserved foods thus causing much more death down the line due to poor health (because preserved foods are not good long term to health).>Tell manufacturers no commercial vehicle can go over 25 mph. Almost every single added regulation to vehicles, such as the emissions law, adds a LARGE cost to the final product. This would go doubly so for roll cages as that would need a redesign of every car on the market. >cuz muh freedomNo it's because muh cost.
>>82508934No its not even a lie. You will see neocons constantly complain about nazis. Leftists never ever ever ever ever complain about communists on their side.
>>82513003I'm not sure that full quote changes anything. He's still saying he thinks gun deaths are worth the "benefit" if owning firearms, whatever that is.
>>82509030>I don't care>actually I do and I will prove it by dancing on his grave to push my retarded normalfag political opinions
>>82509679>try humanNo, he was a thug. This is what the left does, they worship the thugs, pedophiles, thieves and demonize cops because they represent justice.
>>82508084>Almost like desperate circumstances demand exceptional deedsYour desperate circumstances were a nothing burger and it's been proven that all-cause mortality is ~30% higher after the vaxxes.Your "desperate times" was entirely due to your stupidity and panic due to believing the same news media that originally said it was a nothing burger because it was a cold, and then that locking down the country that Trump wanted to do was racist only to then scream how they needed to lock down the country after Biden was in office.
>>82513064Nobody wants to ban the firearm that he was shot with.They are legal in most euro countries with insane gun laws.It's not "ironic" and doesn't justify his shooting. None of the policies the left are seriously suggesting even address it.
>>82513003aren't automobile manufacturers always trying to make their cars saferlike what kind of comparison is that. you can reduce deaths without getting rid of cars. what the fuck kind of false equivalency bullshit.
>>82513097it is ironic because he got shot with a gunnobody is saying that that gun would have been banned, but that this is well within the expected behaviour of a pro-gun society.get it together.
>>82507812Charlie Kirk is still alive. That video was AI generated. He is spending time with his kids right now.
>>82508940>Having to resort to comparing the USA to the entire continent of Africa>Which includes war-torn countries Lmao far rightoids try not to be intellectually dishonest challenge
>>82513114>I think murder is wrong>get killedHow is this ironic?
>>82508557>Buying gun parts like toys an"Silencers", i.e. suppressors, serve to protect your hearing, nothing else. They're a safety part.Even with the best suppressor money can buy, guns are loud as fuck and will be heard from a LONG way away. The only thing they do is not blow out your ear drums from the gas explosion held at arm's length.
>>82513064He explains how we can reduce gun deaths, by having armed security in schools like we have in every other government building.
>>82509656>If I don't get to murder my baby I want you to be murdered instead.Sounds about right for a mentally disturbed person or one possessed by evil.
>>82513114He's not an advocate for gun violence lmao.The gun that shot him would never be banned even under the strictest anti-gun laws being proposed in the US. That's the ironic part.There were people foaming at the mouth waiting for it to be revealed that it was a big scary 'assault rifle' so they could push gun control harder. But they were left with their dick in their hand.There is no policy that would have prevented it.Stating simple facts like there will be gun deaths if there are guns is just logical.Anons itt already posted about car deaths. It's pointless to go in circles.Even the most extreme gun laws will not stop political assassinations.
A. Kirk believed that gun deaths are something we need to accept as part of having the 2nd amendment, so it's only fitting that he be one of those killed by a gun. Practise what you preach. You should be glad that your idol put his money where his mouth is.B. Kirk himself didn't believe in empathy and considered it made up. So you should have no problem with the left showing no empathy.C. Kirk believed in public executions so you should have no problem with the left reposting videos and gifs of his death. He literally advocated for this type of thing.
>>82513160Anyone posting public execution videos should kill themselves (not on camera).
>>82513106>ou can reduce deaths without getting rid of cars. what the fuck kind of false equivalency bullshit.You can't actually. We've reached the limit of car design with modern materials insofar as safety is concerned. Crumple zones were huge (and make repairs cause a shitload of money and drive insurance rates up like crazy) but beyond that there's not much we can do, design wise. Anything else we do has to be done via external factors like removing drunk driving / alcohol or whatever.
>>82507812how much would you honestly care if it had been some random mugger who killed him out in the street not in a lecture
>>82513166Agreed. Bur Charlie Kirk himself promoted public executions, so that's why the right should not be mad that his execution is made public
>>82513155you're missing the whole point, man. I said nobody expects that gun to get banned.you would expect there to be some kind of benefit to increased gun ownership but we really don't see it.
>>82513160Most leftists support killing children in the womb because it's convenient.They should remember this if they are ever killed for being inconvenient to anyone.
>>82508417>with the belief system of a conservative from the 1970's>a liberal from the 1970's
>>82512993>person raised upper-middle-class talking about how much money you have in the bank account and your material standing is unimportantI can't believe you people simp for these retards
>>82513160>Kirk believed that gun deaths are something we need to accept as part of having the 2nd amendmentYes. >so it's only fitting that he be one of those killed by a gunIs this what passes college essays these days or did AI ruin your brain. Expand upon this concept because it makes no sense. >Practise what you preachHe never advocated people get murdered. This is you trying to reach for evidence to make yourself not look like the piece of shit you are>Kirk Believed empathy was made upNo actually, you're retarded and can't even do your own research>kik believed in public executionsAlso not correct. Its really sad and pathetic that leftists have to scramble to find any justifiable reason to kill this guy rather than just admit they want to kill all mild conservatives including their fathers. Leftism is a death cult.
>>82513172Behaviour is a huge part of it. Even if we've reached a point of diminishing returns on cars, we still actually made the effort. From here, we got to track people better road skills. Some places are much, much worse than others for automobile accidents for no reason other than driver negligence.
I had a neighbor who thought it should be legal to go swimming, so then when he drowned while swimming I publicly mocked his death and I went to a candlelight vigil and mocked his friends and said I'm glad he's dead.
>>82513192leftists don't want to kill people. you need to get a grip.
>>82513173Not as much, the same reason I didn't care about that nigger in 2020. This was pre-meditated murder. Thats objectively and legally worse than second degree murder. So yes, I care more when someone is murdered in the first degree than when someone is murdered in the second or third degree.
>>82512833they are doing a really shit job of stabilizing the region right now, the US needs to put a lot more demands on them if they are going to keep funding them like this. the US could easily throw their weight around and put a stop to the madness if they wanted to
>>82513176No he actually didn't, you're grasping at straws to jusitfy a murder. I actually don't even think you fully know why you celebrated the murder. I think you're just a normalfag and you did it because everyone else in your friend groups were.
>>82513179Nearly 2 million defensive uses a year is a pretty good case for keeping them.
>>82513188>a retarded faggot complaining that he deserves your property for existing
>>82513213Hassan and Destiny both support killing their political enemies.
>>82513222I think Trump is genuinely scared of Israel assassinating him. I seriously think that's the case.
>>82513213Leftists do in fact want to kill people, they just did and are celebrating it. People like Destiny and Hassan are constantly talking about stabbing and killing conservatives. Even the most mainstream boomer pundits for the left constantly say >trump is a fascist>fascists should be killedPut two and two together dumb ass.
>>82508028Duck hands.
>>82513160For A see my post here >>82513003 (and again I'm calling you retarded)>B. Kirk himself didn't believe in empathy and considered it made up. So you should have no problem with the left showing no empathy.Retard part 2: the retardening.>During Kirk's comments, he said he didn't care for the word "empathy" and instead preferred "sympathy." The Oxford English Dictionary defines empathy as "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another." Meanwhile, the same dictionary defines sympathy as "feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune."It was a linguistics comment, not one saying "hahah fuck the people they should all die Me feel zero emotion hurrdurr".https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-empathy-quote/>The same people who lecture you about 'empathy' have none for the soldiers discharged for the jab, the children mutilated by Big Medicine, or the lives devastated by fentanyl pouring over the border. C. cut short due to text limit, will be in next post
>>82513176>someone says something retarded>I should be retarded in responsedo not
>>82513160>C. Kirk believed in public executions so you should have no problem with the left reposting videos and gifs of his death. He literally advocated for this type of thing.Here is where I disagree with, however his reasoning is very straight forward, full conversation here first:>On his weekly panel discussion, "ThoughtCrime," Kirk was discussing death penalties of those convicted of crimes, adding that not only does he believe there should be public executions, but that children should watch them.>"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Kirk asked.>Kirk, along with his co-hosts Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer and Blake Neff, continued to discuss at what age should children watch the public executions, with one co-host pointing out as young as 12 years old.>"I think maybe age 12, sixth grade or so when you are old enough... " Neff said.>While Bowyer pointed out that it should be at an age when someone "can embrace the meaning" of the execution.>In response, Kirk said, "I think it should be taken in a holy way and I don't mean holy in a bad way, I mean that this is heavy.>In addition, Kirk asked whether crime would go up or down if children were to watch public executions, "Here's a question for anyone that might be not persuaded. Would crime go up or down?">Bowyer said, "It would go way down," with Kirk then asking, "So why is this even a question?"The entire reason we have the death penalty is due to public deterrence. With appeals and other such things death penalty costs more than life imprisonment, so from both a moral and financial argument one shouldn't be in favor of it. But from a sheer "reduce crime" aspect one can see the logic.
>>82513239I would be interested to take a survey between left and right leaning people, and see who thinks executions are necessary. Just to see how things really lines up.
>>82513267I think murderers should be executed, and I think if someone is attacking you you have the right to kill them in self defense. I don't think you have the right to kill people for saying things you don't agree with. Leftists believe the exact opposite. Leftists believe it's wrong to execute murderers, and it's wrong to shoot someone even if they're attacking you with a knife (pic related), but they do believe that people who say things they disagree with should be killed, or at least they'll make excuses when it happens.
I think that knives should be legal. I'm aware that some people are killed by knives every year, and I think that's horrible, but I still don't think knives should be banned because they're important for eating food. Would it be ironic and funny if someone stabbed me?
>>82513319Why do you believe this? It isn't the truth, but I want to know who convinced you
I wish someone would shoot me
>>82513344We've not gotten down to stripping knife privileges in the US yet.In the US? Not ironic.In the UK? Don't support the knife bins? Yeah, ironic.
>>82513344it would be if you went on record saying that knives should be more accessible and starting taking money from your knife loving fans
>>82507812As usual after everything is said and done the whole thread boils down to justifying, minimizing, distracting, reducing sympathy and every other kind of tactic to downplay the horror of the murder. Fortunately it's plain to see for everyone what's going on so that they can judge accordingly.
>>82513372There are many that advocating abolishing the death penalty. It's been done away with in many states.In many leftist states, they weaken self defense laws as much as possible. And in euro countries self defense is practically illegal a lot of the time.They ban things like pepper spray and tasers.In leftist shitholes, they also let repeat violent offenders terrorize the public until they kill someone. It's the same story over and over again.Liberals love cashless bail since it lets their favorite pets terrorize everyone.
>>82513434based on your language used it doesn't feel like you're approaching this from a very honest perspective. calling criminals pets is a fundamental misunderstanding of why some people don't believe in the death penalty.They don't believe anyone has the authority to kill people. This doesn't mean that nobody is a victim, of course. Just that the arbiter of life and death should not be a power a man holds over another.
>>82507812Hyperbolic, not every liberal is saying this.The truth of the matter is everyone on social media was forced to see a gore video on Sept 10. Some were disgusted, some were thrilled. The one who were thrilled said he deserved it. The ones who were disgusted idolize Charlie and find solace in the shooter's political alignment.Anyone who's pointing left or right is missing the point. You're just watching thousands of people calm their anxieties about gun violence and their own mortality with arguments and words.Civil war won't happen, civil wars don't happen when people are bored. Civil wars happen when people are starving, jobless, the government is impotent, and the populace essentially lashes out on whatever group they deem the enemy.But, for funzies, a rhetorical question for the peanut gallery:If political discourse becomes more peaceful after everyone moves on from this, who was responsible for the change, the shooter or Charlie?
>>82508084>all went back to normal.Then give me my fucking houses 50% cheaper than what they are right now, my cheaper grocery prices, and a job market where you don't need 5 goddamn interviews for a fucking McDonald's job, you fucking cock sucker.
>>82513464>If political discourse becomes more peaceful after everyone moves on from thisOh you sweet little child
>>82513464neither are responsible. charlie and his shooter are only cultural relevant as far as him dying in public. If anything changes, it will be the good and constructive people who care more about helping others than trying to change them. Neither of these men were noble in intention.
>>82512606>"that only happens on Twitter">"No it doesn't! Look at this Twitter screenshot"
>>82513449There are arguments against the death penalty that make sense.But there is one side that constantly advocates for criminals and tries to reduce the penalties for them across the board.They put an immense amount of resources into getting disgusting people out of prison and keeping them in society.Some of it is understandable, from the point of view of a leftie. But a ton of it is just malicious.When leftists riot and destroy things and attack people constantly, they are bailed out so they can continue their political violence. Even people like AOC support bailing rioters out.
>>82513477The propaganda has settled. Nobody's arguing about anything but Charlie Kirk. So many people are calling for neutrality and peace. In fact, the people saying that liberals are violent or that "the shooter was conversative, so..." appear equally as neurotic to anyone not hardcore left or right.
>>82513499That group is collecting things from all over the internet.It being organized on twitter is completely irrelevant.It's hard to say "nobody does that" when there is a list of 60,000 people celebrating the death of the man.
>>82509679That's a lot of words to say you prefer criminals over those representing liberty. Dipshit commie
>>82513561you have to realize just how many people are out there. 60,000 isn't that many people. I live in a city with over a million people living in it. Even if the 60,000 people were all from here, it's still not even close to a majority of people.
>>8251356160,000 is really not that many people at all, anon. Certainly not "every single leftist." There are 380,000,000 people in the U.S. alone. There are over 8,000,000,000 on earth. 60,000 people laughing at Charlie Kirk for being a dweeb and dying like a dweeb is an impossibly small fraction of people, especially considering the demographic you're sampling from.>Oh noes, people are talking shit on the internet! They're saying highly immoral things! This world has gone mad!Sir. You are in four chan dot org.
>>82513561that database is almost exclusively twitter screenshots with a couple insta and facebook posts sprinkled throughout lmao. and even the conservatives on twitter are wary about a significant portion of the entries not even really making fun of Kirk, just mentioning him. you people are the whiniest pissbabies alive.
>>82513728>>82513746>>82513773>we only celebrated his murder a little bro
>>82513773yeahevery time I see conservatives calling someone out it's just like"I have a lot of feelings about this" or "that man was not very cool". like, this is what you're triggered by?
>>82513746All leftists can do is project their own evil onto other people to pretend it justifies their depraved actions. How sick do you have to be to mock people for being upset about a murder?
>>82513785who is we? I didn't. Get it together.
>>82513785Anon. 60,000 is 0.0157894737% of 380,000,000. Not half the country. Not even a fourth. Not even 1%. Please get it together.
>>82513789who is upset about this murder and how are they being mocked, exactly?I don't see anything but the kneejerk reaction.
Literally no one cares about this kike lover aside from retarded subhumans with direction brain.You're probably missing teeth, faggot. Go touch grass. You're not a White man.
>>82513372Take the recent subway killing of that Ukrainian refugee lady. That guy was arrested like 14 times with many violent felonies / offenses. He was continuously let go. If that's not support of his actions I don't know what is.
>>82513804Those are only cases with concrete documentation, it's not possible to put your private conversations where you're celebrating his death in there.Although, there are a ton of people reporting coworkers for this.
>>82513786I'm triggered by evil motherfuckers like you destroying the society I'm forced to live in.
>>82513789You're right, we should all collectively hold a moment of silence for the late, great Char--Charlie Ki---CHARLIE. KIRK. CHARLIE. CAN YOU STOP PLAYING THOSE DRUMS SO LOUD? WE'RE TRYING TO MOURN YOUR LOSS YOU DEAD CUNT.
>>82513267Not really, we already know the answer. Leftists want people to be killed for having different opinions of them.
>>82513819>no one cares about thisOh and FBI assets looking to distract from the child trafficking, before you post those ebin "neo-nazis"
>>82513834Leftists displaying the kindness and empathy they're so known for
>>82513539>In fact, the people saying that liberals are violent or that "the shooter was conversative, so..." appear equally as neurotic to anyone not hardcore left or right.nigga i know so many normies that were either celebrating his death on their socials, and normies i know saw their other normie friends do this and were absolutely disgusted by that mask off devil shit. this is unlike anything to ever happen before. so many normie saw the video dude. gore like that is pretty hardcore even to 4chan users that have seen lots of gore videos. and normies saw that shit dude.
>>82513825I'm not sure why he was let go, but I don't think anyone now thinks shouldn't have been in jail.The government isn't the people. we had no say in him being released.
>>82513831Oh ok yeah I'm sure if you count all the private conversations you just know people are having then it'll skyrocket from less than 1% to 99.9999999% at least. DELUSIONAL.
>>82513464>If political discourse becomes more peaceful after everyone moves on from this, who was responsible for the change, the shooter or Charlie?Neither. Let me turn it around for you to make my point.>guy A kills guy B>AAA, OUTRAGE, WE NEED NEW LAWS>other people draft laws, yet more people voice support / dissent for the lawsThe people responsible for the new laws are neither A nor B, they are the will / reaction of the people (at least in an ideal world, obviously I'm aware of special interests but let's ignore that). Neither man A nor B are responsible for society's reaction, I won't allow for "society" to be let off that easy.
>>82513843>>82513836>leftistsIf kikes and kike supporters are not one of your enemies, you need to blow your subhuman brains out of the back of your skull.Better yet: I can probably count on you fucking it up, and all for the better. Your brain stem staying intact is a good for dramatic flair and prolonging what you deserve.You are nothing but a shabbos goy, at best, a retard in the worst case.
>>82513807thats because your life starts and ends on 4chan.
>>82513833what am I destroying of yours, exactly?
>>82513449That logic is just not very good. Why can the government hold another man captive for life. How is that different than killing them? Why does a man made institution get to judge a human in that way when it should be up to god?
>>82513464This does not track with any historical records.
>>82513865I just don't use twitter, bro. Even on my facebook it's all people whining about imaginary people. If anyone would like to express their thoughts of it without making it about hating leftists, I'm all ears.
>>82513855>but I don't think anyone now thinks shouldn't have been in jail.The leftist shithead judge did
>>82513728>you have to realize just how many people are out there. 60,000 isn't that many people. I live in a city with over a million people living in it.While I agree with you, it's not that all one million of the people in the city even have social media, let alone post to it about everything. Beyond that, most of those people who do have said social media have like 2 regular followers. I get the point you're trying to make but you should hopefully get the point I'm trying to make as well. >>82513804I don't have social media, so that 380m is actually 379.999.999m, and so on and so forth.
>>82513867It seems like you're under the impression that no crimes should be punished, which nobody believes. It's preferable to lock someone up over killing them as long as they're not being tortured.
>>82513892right, so using it as a sample is dumb
>>82507812Keep crying pussy
>>82513843Under no circumstances do we have to be kind or tolerant or empathetic to assholes like Charlie Kirk. Sorrynotsorry to that man, rest in piss bozo lol
>>82513855>the government isn't the peoplethe judge is a person though. and this happens a -lot-, so it is a -lot- of people in positions of authority that are making that decision.While I understand the spirit of your argument, it's a pretty terrible one until the actors in government become not people e.g. AI or something.In fact the preponderance of this happening is why many states have three strike laws, which I don't think is sufficient to address the real problem but it shows that there was enough outcry it had to be addressed.
>>82513863>muh kikesIf muslim and muslims supporters aren't your enemies you should be peacefully deported. I think its pretty obvious you disgusting faggots aren't meant to live in peaceful western societies, especially when you can't keep your retarded middle east conflicts out of your mind.
>>82513843>ACK>SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT>*dies*
>>82507812>for holding beliefs that are more moderate than minecharlie kirk thought that if an 11 year old girl was raped she should be forced to give birth to the baby, he said that gay people being stoned to death was "god's perfect law", he said that joe biden should be executed and america should have publicly televised executions shown to children, and he was against the separation of church and state. If you're more extreme than that, you should recognize that you're further right than 99.9% of the population
>>82513889I wonder why? I am not very familiar with american criminal law because I'm not an american criminalbut I'm sure you'll notice I was referring to the present day, not the past when the judge made that decision. I bet they would consider keeping them in jail now.
>>82513885so if you dont personally see something that means it's not real?
>>82513905There are more than a few confessed killers who want the death penalty. They got it, but have to wait for an excruciatingly long time because activists have been obstructing the legal process for decades and don't want to set bad legal precedence.
>>82513867The idea is "man commits crime against society, man gets separated from society until he is fit to reintegrate".IN THEORY, it's possible to have a resort island retreat where all criminals are sent and it would be equally valid as the concrete cage prisons, as the point isn't to punish people but protect society.Norway's prisons are notoriously nicer than the US' and they have a lower recidivism rate. Of course they have a much whiter, homogeneous population so that factors in too.
>>82513926All semites should be exterminated, kike.No one cares about your kiked direction brain.Blow your brains out of the back of your skull, retard. If you didn't see the most obvious march of FBI assets imaginable for what it is, you are a retarded kike to me, and not a White man.Pull the trigger, retard.
>>82513937No, they are not considering keeping him in jail.They are keeping him in a mental facility, and he likely will not even face trial.The system libtards have setup is insane and pro-criminal.
>>82513905No I was pointing out the strange logic in your argument. I'd also highly disagree that being locked up for life is preferable to a quick clean death. I mea a lot of criminals even say that they'll die before they get locked up again. There's also a lot of sickos out there that want a criminal to be locked up for life rather than killed because it means the criminal will spend the rest of his life suffering a hellish existence. You can say so long as there is no torture but being in a prison, stuck in a shitty artificially lit room for the rest of your existence seems pretty fucked up.
>>82513935>charlie kirk thought that if an 11 year old girl was raped she should be forced to give birth to the babyI think the hypothetical society where 11 y/o girls are raped is a bigger issue than abortion
>>82513924What that means is that the priorities of a government official and a civilian are very different. the information they have available is very different. The judge was a person, yes, but he wasn't operating based on his individual values because of his role in serving justice.
>>82513915The words you are using are technically correct but make my point more so than yours.That's a -lot- of people.If the example was something else like baby rape you would say "wtf, why is there so many people posting that kind of a thing that's sick".
>>82513957I wonder what lead to that decision?
>>82513951>IN THEORY, it's possible to have a resort island retreat where all criminals are sent and it would be equally valid as the concrete cage prisons, as the point isn't to punish people but protect society.You say that as if its a fact when in reality the function of a prison being for punishment vs segregation has been a debate since prisons existed.
>>82513977It's a lot of people if you imagine them all together, and not dispersed around the entire planet.It's shocking to see for some, I'm sure, but it shouldn't be twisted into something it isn't. It by no means means any significant amount of people are celebrating this death.
>>82513955I can tell by how angry you are that you're not a white man. Maybe a white teenager but not a man. Also its your autistic view of discourse as meeting criteria rather than a more fluid process.
>>82513971>hypothetical society where 11 y/o girls are rapedhypothetical?
>>82513973>but he wasn't operating based on his individual valuesWhy do you think this?If the judge has ANY say in the sentence why do you default to "serving justice" instead of "serving his own individual values"?If the answer is "I trust the system" or "I trust this random person I've never met before" than our very starting points are drastically different.
>>82513884Name a single source of a time where nothing was really going on, so people engaged in civil war.If you're American, yes, there's really nothing going on for you guys. Just rampant gun violence. Otherwise, you're still probably the most well-off, powerful, and technologically advanced nation, besides for your healthcare and infrastructure tho.
>>82513926all of the muslims I have met and worked with are exceedingly normal family men. they are a little misogynistic though.
>>82514016A judge isn't supposed to have a bias like that, but they are appointed by activists to be activist judges.
>>82513971And this justifies murdering him because.....? Did he rape an 11 year old? Did he ever try to convince his audience of retarded 15 year olds that CP or raping a 11 year old is acceptable like Hasan, Destiny and vaush?
>>82513892Facebook has 3,070,000,000 users. Twitter has 611,000,000.TikTok has 1,600,000,000 active users. Instagram has 2,000,000,000 users. Adding that up, that's about 7,281,000,000 profiles. If you could only find around 60,000 posts denigrating Charlie Kirk, that's still only around 0.000824062629% of users on all major social media networks in the U.S. Again, you're crying a lot over fucking nothing.
>>82514012>Also its your autistic view of discourseYour view of discourse is your kiked direction brain.I'm 35, you retarded manchild. I have more money and more success than you. I several homes, two of which I rent to White, respectable familiies and was on /g/ using bitcoin while you were shitting your diapers.You are a retard who probably has shit colored eyes. Kill yourself, subhuman.
>>82513986If it was purely punishment, then there's no reason to not just whip the guy bloody like singapore does to many criminals and release him the next day. It's much faster and more cost efficient.>but he might do it again!Ah, so suddenly the focus is on the potential victims (society) like I said.>it's not enough of a punishment!So let him heal up and then whip him again, you'll eventually find your "okay this is enough" stopping point.>muh human rights!"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". All of these so called "God given human rights" seem to have no problem being waved to lock a man up for decades.
>>82514016Because they have so many different priorities competing that a civilian would not have. A judge must understand the weight of their decision and that will affect it, every single time. It's not like. thinking to yourself about an opinion. This is a sentence, it has consequences.
>>82514037There are only 22 thousand murders in the US a year, so we shouldn't really be concerned with murder or stopping it. It's such an insignificant number.
>>82514033Everyone who says mere words and ideas aren't worth getting killed for is being pretentious. Ideas, and written and spoken word are much more dangerous than any single act of violence. They can cause many acts of violence. The shooter thought Charlie Kirk's ideas were dangerous.I would agree that the integration of church and state is a horrible idea. A scary one, even, but I'm not a schizo with a gun.
>>82514065do you think that murder is a bigger problem than saying unkind things about a dead manout of curiosity
>>82514031>A judge isn't supposed to have a bias like that, but they are appointed by activists to be activist judges.So now suddenly this "one individual" or "government official" is the reflection of the will of the people, which brings us back to the other guy's point of "why leftists [appoint these activist judges]" and my reply (to you) of "they are in support of these actions".
>>82514020>nothing was really going on The issue is that things are going on right now>American revolutionary warThe higher tax rate was hardly grounds for the actions Americans took against the crown>the troubles>American civil warThese are just what come to mind right now. >if you are american there is nothing going with you guysIncorrect. Incels on the rise, shit is getting expensive, leftist refuse to deal with homeless and mentally ill problem.
>>82514065Your argument is closer to "there are 22,000 murders a year, so basically EVERYBODY IN THE US IS KILLING EACH OTHER. ITS ALL FALLING APART. PANIC."Get a grip.
>>82514075Saying the average conservitard normie is a fascist nazi that deserves to be killed is a big problem, yeah.Political violence can spiral out of control and lead to a conflict that kills millions.
>>82514040>Land owner that got rich off speculative marketsUh oh bro, the guy that killed Charlie Kirk would have killed you as well.
>>82507812>for holding beliefs that are more moderate than mineHe said black people should be slaves again and gay should be stoned to death. I don't care that he's dead. I do not feel sorry for him. I truly could not give any less of a shit than I do now, which is none.
>>82514074nta but i'd smack the absolute fuck out of you irl
>>82514058> A judge must understand the weight of their decision and that will affect it, every single time. Ah yes, like the many women killed by black men on parole for previous violent offenses. I'm glad the judges understood the weight of their decision before granting that sentence.
>>82514065>people saying mean things online about my favorite podcaster is LITERALLY like murder
>>82514104He didn't say either of those things.You were brainwashed by libtards and can't think for yourself.It doesn't even really matter if you find out those things are false, you will move on to the next thing to excuse his murder and feel good about it.
>>82514104>He said black people should be slaves againno he didint>gay should be stoned to deathno he didnt. stephen king is about to get his ass sued off for claiming that.you're a greasy pig fuck and a liar. great good for you.
>>82514091Trannies are just mentally ill and not that many women really need abortions. Get a grip.
>>82514099The kid who killed Kirk was hunting kikes. I'd have taken him to the shooting range if I knew him. He's respectable and had the balls to do what needed done.Here's to another kike being ventilated by next week for you to pretend you're outraged by the death of some retarded grifter shabbos goy.Again: kill yourself retard.
>>82514074>ideas and written word are more dangerousNah, and once you go down that path everyone who disagrees with you is a threat to the world and its justifiable to kill them.
>>82508147Yes. The thing is that Hitler 2 is not gonna be what you think it is. He's gonna holocaust whites.
>>82514093ok but practically nobody's saying that though. less than ten percent of one percent of people on the internet are saying that.
>>82514114Libtards constantly go on about stochastic terrorism.In fact, they are using it as a justification this assasination.Oh, he said this and that about whatever group, that leads to violence. So if his words can lead to violence, it's only just that he be killed.
>>82514124He was a leftist that shot kirk because he didn't like his takes on trannies and communism.
>>82514104>He said black people should be slaves again and gay should be stoned to death.I don't even have to look up whatever the fuck you're talking about to know that this isn't true.
>>82514123OK and Charlie Kirk was ugly as fuck and died a bitch. Get a grip.
>>82514089The higher tax rate was one among many reasons. You're right, that was hardly the reason. It would've been too simple if it were, right?Prior to the American civil war, senators were fistfighting and caning each other in the galleries. Banning slavery would destroy the southern economy, that's why they seceded. It was the threat of being penniless.Hyperinflation or starvation is not the same thing as things getting expensive. Yeah, you guys do have a mental health and gun violence problem, but those are first world problems. You literally have no idea how comfortable you still are. So, don't worry about civil war. It won't happen.
>>82514132>ok but practically nobody's saying that though.Did you miss the last 12 years of people calling trump and everyone who likes him a fascist? Come on now.
>>82514132Nah, the shooter said he was killing a fascist. It's a mainstream libtard viewpoint.They constantly talk about how donald trump and republicans are an existential threat to democracy and are fascists.
>>82514141ok and what do you want me to do about that?
>>82514132>ok but practically nobody's saying that thoughlmao.
>>82514143>he was a leftist>in the most conservative state>on the most conservative campus>wearing a fucking eagle and flag shirtYou're not even up to date on the latest copes, retard. Your only use is being a useful idiot to kikes who argues about the death of some retard grifter with your subhuman direction brain.And don't be mad at me because you have no assets, you fucking retard.I can't help that you're an idiot with shit colored eyes, living in the basement who argues on the internet about leftists and libtards all day instead of actually getting a life.I rescind my instruction to you earlier to blow your brains out, you don't even have guns. I'd recommend an exit bag instead, loser.
>>82514132>practically nobody is saying thatYou're just lying. Every single leftist has at some point in the last year accused a right winger of being a racist, fascist, sexist, homophobic or literally Hitler at least once. Further most of them think all of these titles makes you deserving of physical retaliation. I mean every single mainstream democrat politician calls republicans fascist. Calling republicans fascists nazi has been a thing since the 70's. I believe people calling Reagan a fascist nazi were frequently spotted at protests.
>>82514129No, it's called moderation and deciding very carefully what's an evil idea. It's easy, such as, killing bad. But, it doesn't take a genius to realize that ideas can be harmful. It's why conservatives don't want rainbow flags in their schools, and why libs don't want their kids watching Andrew Tate.My point isn't that he should've died, my point is that the motive is obvious, ideas are indeed dangerous, and again, if discourse becomes more peaceful thereafter, it can be spun either way that the shooter was successful in his attack, or that Charlie's memory changed something.Stay neutral, folx
>>82514145He said the first thing during a Jubilee debate that lasted about 90 minutes. During that same debate, he also said he'd force his 10 year old daughter, who is a real person, to give birth if hypothetically she were raped. I don't care that Charlie Kirk is dead.
>>82514193>He said the first thing during a Jubilee debate that lasted about 90 minutes.Give me a direct quote where he says that black people should be slaves again.
>almost 500 repliesI'm so tired. Is there anywhere on the Internet you can get away from political culture war bullshit? 2016 onward was a mistake.
>>82514175His parents and troon boyfriend said he was a lefty and talked about politics often.
>>82514107when a nigga realizes and smacks the tree cause it made him feel dumb
>>82514175>he was a right winger>with anti-fascist markings on his bullets>who wore a holloween costum mocking Trump>that refrences tranny memes>that had a tranny bf>who's family all said he was the only leftist in his family>who happened to share leftist memes on discordThe narrative that he is a right winger is yet another example of leftist delusion. Literally all you have is "the family was conservative" as if your political affiliation is genetic. LMFAO.
>>82514157because they are, categorically, fascists. their rhetoric absolutely does meet the definition of fascism.
>>82514193Yes, you want to kill babies in the womb. That's evil.You also don't care for life outside of the womb. That's consistent with being evil.Thanks for confirming.
Yeah I think this whole thing is astroturfed to hell and back. Don't get me wrong in that political violence shouldn't be tolerated at all but in spite of the chronically online leftists cheering this shit on I've grown a lot more cynical of people on the right. Before the shooter was even found people were going full total troon death, kill all leftists and BEGGING for a civil war. Shooter got caught, was a white guy and suddenly they switched to thoughts and prayers. Now we're slowly itching back to total leftist/troon death again all the while you're seeing insane shit like Trump brushing off Kirk's death, his wife posting an instagram reel to gain clicks and fucking RFK jr saying him and kirk were soulmates back in 2001 despite him only being 8 years old at the time.It's my opinion that this was a tragedy, but one that created a very nice coincidence that everyone on the right is using to parade his corpse around for their own gain or to push an agenda. Frankly that alone is terrifying.
>>82514188The issue is the discourse was already peaceful, then he shot Kirk. Whether intentional or not this was terrorism.
>>82514221>Shooter got caught, was a white guy and suddenly they switched to thoughts and prayers.This is not true at all.
>>82514221Yeah, when you observe both sides as an outsider, pretty much anyone who utters the word "democrat" or "republican" in this Charlie Kirk discussion seems... inciteful, and blissfully unaware. And that's just the average normie online right now, not the media outlets and political commentators.
>>82514157>um just because I'm a vocal advocate for far-right ultranationalist political philosophy characterized by hypermilitarism and a desire for the complete elimination of all political opposition doesn't mean I'm a fascist, libtard
>>82514238We've had like six high profile assassinations or assassination attempts in the last year in the US. Charlie Kirk was not the flashpoint you think he was. We're already in a new era. It's your job to fix it though, I'm arguing the most lukewarm moderate takes. I need liberals and conservatives to stop running amok in the panic.
>>82514218>I called them a fascist, so they are a fascist, and that makes killing anyone on the right okay That's very fascistic of you
>>82514161the shooter was a groyper who wrote "if you're reading this you're gay lmao" on one of the casings.
>>82514244Yeah, it was. It didn't last long but that was absolutely the case.>>82514252A more conspiritorial mind would say that the day before a lot of commentators and discourse were trying to paint a call for action around a black man stabbing a white woman on the bus and then this just falls right into their lap like a silver platter. At the very least such events have been a very good distraction for other certain events that have been dogging the public discourse for the last few months now. Anyway, seems like civility politics really did die with Biden's term.
>>82514093as opposed to the significantly MORE rightoids who are calling for gay, black, etc death, huh
>>82514219>behold: an entire baby
>>82514285I repeat false claims on the internet for ragebait too.
>>82514268>ultranationalist hypermilitarism elimination of political opposition This is a fantasy you've constructed in your head. Please come back to reality. I'm begging you.
>>82514282I'm not a fascist, I'm a leftist authoritarian. It's only fascism if you're on the right wing because fascism is an inherently right wind political ideology. Now face the wall, degenerate. :^)
>>82514161we have really good reason to believe trump is a threat to democracy
>>82514268I feel like this is what the left would do to the right if they had even a modicum of courage or willpower.
>>82514297That isn't a mainstream view on the right.It's annoying as hell how many conservitards love brownoids and faggots.
>>82514302that much is evident but what I said is true
>>82514318How very prescient. >>82514315
>>82514319yeah, that's the point. even if it isn't mainstream, you guys have way, waaay more of it
>>82514317And what do we do to threats to democracy, comrade?
>>82507812Come on anon, every single liberal? You're smarter than this. Ask yourself who benefits the most from you thinking like this.
>>82514212>>82514175>coping about casings that literally has "u r gay" on themYeah, subscribe to PewDiePie as well you fucking retard.Also "denigrating Trump", what a fucking retarded kike you are. Imagine simping for a child trafficker.This is why you're a retard with no assets. You have no idea what is going on.Again: exit bag, pronto. Your IQ can't be over 100.
>>82514317Remember all the things he did that tore down democracy in his first term? There were so many
I love how being a victim has become such a significant political force again. "waah they are mean to us"you know most people think you're fucking faggots and don't care about anything else?back in the day this would have gotten torn apart for the moralfaggotryelection tourists really don't know where they arethe killing was pretty funny and he died quickly and painlessly, which is a better death than many get>>82514221>guize i am starting to think the psyop forum contains some psyops and psyopped individuals
>>82514353yeah like trying to rig the election and raiding the capitol?
>>82514343condemn the people who are legitimizing them and their acts?
>>82514334Not even close. Libtard politicians are constantly going on about imaginary racism, fascism, sexism etc They constantly say shit like "they're going to kill us" in reference to literally any minority group. It's retarded and leads to people being radicalized and violent.
>>82514201You can watch the Jubilee debate for yourself. He said it was "bad and evil," but also said that black people committed less crime under slavery and were generally better off then than now.
>>82514366maybe dont have people in your mainstream admin saying "theyre poisoning the blood of our country" if you wanna beat the allegations
>>82514307that's literally the definition of fascism lmao
>>82514369He said they commited less crime before the 1960s when some retarded policies were implemented that destroyed the black family structure. And it's completely true.He said nothing about wanting them to be slaves again.
>>82514369>He said it was "bad and evil,"Oh, so the opposite of what you fucking said.
>>82514356>biden didn't steal the election libs werent stuffing ballots it was actually trumpokay>raiding the capitalwow cant believe trump raided the capital
>>82514318Yeah remember Great Conservative Purge of '08 when Obama was elected? So many lives lost. Truly a dark day for America. :(And who could forget the Holocaust 2: Electric Boogaloo brought on by Biden? When will this bloodshed end?
We're not buying it bro
>>82508731Dems still want to disarm blacks.
>>82514379It's not the definition of fascism and it's not happening. Please please please come back to reality.
>>82514395Followed immediately by a "but," and an attempt at justification. He was saying it was a necessary evil.
>>82508871If only the UVU was a gun free zone where the shooter wasn't allowed to carry guns on campus. Then he might still be alive.
>>82514407You could have just said 'no liberals wouldnt do that' but instead you chose to make a smart quip. Very telling. And I don't think any liberals from 2008 would look very favorably upon 2025 liberals.
>>82514417Crazy. I guess his death was justified after all.
>>82514366so the liberals are doing something completely different and not saying out right that specific people should be killed? that's weak
>>82514415lmao you fucking retard what do you think fascism is? do you think fascism is when leftists don't mourn right wing podcasters?
>>82514444Based quads, glad you're getting it.
>>82514406if you can't agree to the facts that an election happened and had a victor, there is legitimately no peaceful way to resolve our disagreements. you realize that, right?
>>82514443I went with a witty quip because I don't take this discussion seriously and I do not respect you at all.
>>82514446They are constantly calling the right "nazi" and using it as justification to attack them.Antifa is constantly committing political violence using the same mainstream democratic rhetoric.
>>82514471Explain how "Trump raided the captial" is in any way factual
>>82514499no. words are wasted on ghouls. you're just gonna do the rigamarole. ive heard your flimsy defenses over and over and over. im done listening. debate is worthless. we dont agree.
>>82514181you people have been sliding into fascism for the last decade. these accusations didn't just come from nowhere
>>82514492That's not exactly true. They're calling people who are acting out fascist fantasies nazis.Which is a few degrees better than saying gay should be killed, still.
>>82514515>no. words are wasted on ghouls.Damn right before you were about to present the undeniable facts too.
>thread slows to a halt immediately upon hitting bump limitYou people have been arguing with Russian disinformation bots.
>>82514499what do you think happened jan 6??
>>82514564that's pretty obvious.remember when trump said the russians never helped him rig the election? lol
>>82514618i would know, i was that russian
>>82514605I know Trump didn't raid the capital. But please tell me Trump lead a column of tanks and instituted a new order like the third column
I'm glad that you're dead, Charlie KiiiirkIt's tragic that you escaped a cell.It's good that you're dead, I only wish you had never been booornOh Charlie, fuck you and burn in hell. I'm glad that you died, Charlie Kiiiiirk,By falling into a vat of pooYeah that's how he died, he drowned in a whole bunch of diarrheaOh Charlie, stay dead also fuck you
I had no idea there were so many libtards on 4chan. Are we sure they're not bots?
>>82514718sometimes when I'm bored I'll make a thread about Trump and it'll hit bump limit with loads of anons shitting on him. the entire website isn't /pol/, you know.
>>825147184chan has always been anti-establishmentif you think you're among friends for being a bootlicker, you're crazy
>>82514652he told people to seize it so they tried to
>>82514864True, it was when he told them to go home. He said that with his hand behind his back crossing his fingers.
>>82514874he told them to go home way after he told them to show upwouldn't need to tell anyone to go home if they didn't show up, right?
>>82514752Left is currently the establishment tho. Aristocrats of the soul, tradition and order is definitely the current counterculture
>>82514915The democratic government has never been lefty for anything more than brownie pointsI don't know any leftists who actually like the democrats, just recognize that they're way less evil
>>82514915Meant for>>82514758derp
>>82514864>he told people to seize it so they tried toCan you show me the tweet, video, or speech where he explicitly in no uncertain terms told people to seize the capital and do nothing else?
>>82514915did you forget who is in charge?
>>82514941Nope, but I think if you search for it you'd find it. I really don't think all those people independently decided to show up and obstruct democracy.
>>82514925Fair enough. Most people who pay attention for more than 15 minutes know representative government is a bad joke. But left is definitely dominant in the culture war at the very least.
>>82514962Have you seen it? Do you remember what Trump said? Or was it sort of clandestinely delivered to J6ers?
>>82514982He had a melty on truth social it I recall.
>>82515006So you're going off hearsay?
>>82514967>But left is definitely dominant in the culture war at the very least.it doesn't feel that way to me, but I also don't think the left is nearly as unified and cohesive as some people act. It's a lot people with different ideals loosely connected by progressive social attitudes.
>>82514605Trump told his followers to gather peacefully and patriotically to get their voices heard?
>>82514949Who do you think was in charge the last 4 years?
>>82515080not that man lmao
>>82514915>red legislative branch>red executive branch>red judicial branch>billionaires literally bribing the president with gifts on live television to avoid paying fuckhuge tariffs>>ackshually the left is the Establishment
