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what makes the left wing and right wing so fundamentally different?

why are leftists in particular so combative, argumentative and aggressive towards people who dissagree with them? go wear a maga hat and its nothing but tension like you are gonna get beat up. then go wear an LGBTq hat and theres no objections.

i really wanna get to the bottom of this and know why leftists have such burning compassion for queers.
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>>82517394
personally i and many other rightwingers dont care to analyze the reasons for their mental illness. we just want them wiped out.
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>>82517394
Tribalism. Mindless reactionary tribalism.
exactly like conservative reactionaries have always been
and now that you're seeing what it looks like coming from people you don't identify with, you can see how fucking retarded it all is, how pointless and undermining to their own points.
And instead of having the epiphany even a fucking retard would have after having their nose rubbed in the point for 2 decades, you just keep becoming worse versions of yourselves.
No im not a liberal, no I'm not a rightoid, no I'm not a centrist, there is nowhere on your bullshit false dichotomy for me or anyone else with both a soul and an iq over 90
Both your tribes are so far beneath decent human beings we literally can't even piss on them, coz the fall is so far it'd evaporate first.
I hate my species so fucking much it's unreal
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>>82517394
I am ultra-far right by most standards.
Both the right and left are combative and radical. The difference is that the overwhelming sociocultural dominance of leftist politics means that most leftists are not experienced with dealing with disagreement, and when they do it is easy to recede into a safe space where differing views are banned, canceled, or shut down. (This is changing, of course, and the rapid violent radicalization of the left is a symptom of losing their safe spaces and ability to escape from the right wing narrative which, whether true or false, presents an uncomfortable and jarring presence to people so thoroughly socialized under leftist values)

Neither is inherently superior, I'd say. When the right gains control over the universities and cultural institutions (like media, arts, etc) they will become carbon copies of the left, only with slightly better (from my subjective values) views and policies.
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>>82517394
The battle between left and right is a fundamental battle between good and evil with the left being good, and the right being evil. That's why we're not upset about Charlie Kirk dying. He dedicated his entire adult life to making the world a worse place.
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>>82518194
>what is being civilized
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>>82518194
You're good unless someone has a slightly different opinion than the consensus. Then you slaughter countless.
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>>82518231
>Then you slaughter countless.
No, only the leaders. Charlie Kirk was one of the biggest right wing influencers, so he's a perfectly justified target.
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>>82518231
i think one thing is for certain. Talking about things gets people nowhere. I don't think anyone has changed someone elses worldview or religion through talking about it.

there are no genuine truth seekers. Not really. i think people base their world view around their own subjective feelings and just defend it no matter what.

we've had like 16+ years of debates between the left and right and it gets us nowhere. Even if something is proven empirically wrong and the message somehow gets past a person's ego, that person will just go home and become clouded with their own worldview again.

i liken it to falling asleep. try to stay awake while your body falls asleep. that's how hard it is for an ideological person to stay not ideological. in other words its pointless and hopeless.

My system is one that would be hated by everyone. It's like a meritocracy, but meritocracies are dumb because you can have some genius math matician who is a total piece of shit as a person. There's lots of people who are very bright and talented who are terrible as people. It would be a patriarchal spiritual system where the most noble and honorable people rise to the top while the retarded, wicked and ignorant people are enslaved and those in between have a degree of rights. like a caste system but it'd use spiritual and occult means of determining a person's worth.

it would stand no chance against the industrial capitalist machine that has already established power. but i think it would be the best system.
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>>82517394
>then go wear an LGBTq hat and theres no objections.
you know in a lot of places you will actually just get beat up or worse for this?
you could go live in those places if you like
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>>82517394
Why is the right and TF2 so closely related? Genuinely why
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>>82518400
>you know in a lot of places you will actually just get beat up or worse for this?
you mean iraq?
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>>82518539
yeah, the entire middle east, half of america, and half of europe
you're like muslims who move to the west and immediately try to start making it like the countries they came from. You want to live in liberal places, but you want the people to be conservatives.
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>>82518428
tf2 has both sides of the political spectrum playing it but it's primarily comprised of redditors sharing safe tf2 memes with eachother. but the few politicial people who play it are actually the poler opposites of eachother. you usually get an anime pfp having cheater top scoring and his name is 'femboy' something something and a wife beating soldier main whos calling him a faggot.
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>>82518549
>half of america
where is this utopia in america where i can say gay as an insult?
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>>82518566
literally anywhere in america that votes republican
that's half the country
check a map
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>>82517394
The left is just more extreme because they believe they are fighting against oppression or genocide with things like Gaza, or immigration. That's probably how they justify it to themselves
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>>82518569
i want a republican state that is at least 92% white.

i live in texas but its a blue part of texas chock full of jeets, spics and niggers. yet the only political people i see outside holding up flags and microphones are fucking whites. not a single non white is out there actually pushing their politics.
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>>82518589
ok, but you're asking for a place where you can openly wear a maga hat and be assaulted for being gay
that's most of texas.
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>>82518598
texas is the most mutt fucking state you neandernigger. texas is only like 40% white. my neighbors were muslim and black and indian there were only 2 white families around.
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>>82518609
so?
you asked for right wing places. That's a right wing place regardless of the racial composition.
it sounds like you just want a country that caters to your exact whims in every way, but that doesn't exist.
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>>82517394
They see inequality and descrimination as the ultimate evil and to them being right wing means supporting it.
Wearing a maga hat to them is the same as saying "I want to perpetuate oppression" which cause great pain because of their empathy.
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>>82518690
Heh, just like as if WE as a country need to go hand in hand to keep being successful, not hand of rich in pocket of poor yadda yadda

Who even the fuck am I kidding noone is going to meaningfuly engage with me

> LE HECKIN DEMONRATS CUNT MEME LMAO KEKKKK RETARD DEMONRATS ARE SO COMBATIVE YOU FUCKING DUMB LEFTIST WY YUO SO AGRESIV
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>>82518690
which falls on the axiom that everyone is innocent and good. Which is not true. most people are not moral, honest or good. It takes a lot of discipline, education and essentially force to make someone a good member of society. to make them be able to work a 9-5 while communicating effectively with people and not on a kindergarten level of english, to make them stow their frustration and anger without them chimping out.

where liberals see innocent people i see savages.
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>>82518758
I feel bad for the death of enlightenment liberalism, because at its heart it was a very beautiful dream; That with enough love, kindness, tolerance, education, and rationalism, the whole world would join hands together and sadness and evil would one day disappear to the outskirts society, rarely seen and swiftly amended.

It was pathetically false. It's difficult to say the Right "won." What comes after is going to be far more brutal and depressing than anything that came before. At least we could have dreamed of an enlightened future.
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>>82518194
>The battle between left and right is a fundamental battle between good and evil with the left being good, and the right being evil
direction brained ideologues unironically believe this shit, life really is a comedy lol
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>>82518813
More proof humans are a slave race.
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>>82518758
Not really most people just have shit lives so they are bitter. If they were successful or felt like they owned a house or something that gave them a stake in society they wouldn't be so bad
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Progs are just narcissistic altruist who dont know when to stop. They are the sort of person who will break a dam then brag about saving all the flooded people and fuck up anyone who points out they broke the dam

>If there are issues in society I will revolve my life around it
The eternal leftard mantra and why they need to be exterminated because they will never end the problems as they cannot get egomaniacal pleasure if it no longer exists
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>>82518801
liberals seeing everyone as innocent people and right wingers seeing everyone as savages IS the fundamental difference between the left and right mind.

leftists think that white people just got lucky and were prosperous because of things outside of their control. When in reality it happened through discipline, structure, and something that is uniquely white: actually caring about what is fair and honest. Truth over face, individual responsibility. In other countries you get killed for defending yourself and if you are not present, a family member is killed in your place. Only in europe did people care about actual justice.

>>82518838
you are just making excuses for people my life is fucking dogshit and i don't see it as an excuse to be an unscrupulous person. making excuses for savages while they continue to be savages is exactly you thinking that underneath they are actually good people with european values.
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>>82518933
>you are just making excuses for people my life is fucking dogshit and i don't see it as an excuse to be an unscrupulous person. making excuses for savages while they continue to be savages is exactly you thinking that underneath they are actually good people with european values.
It's not about values if your life sucks and you grew up miserable of poor your entire life, than you are probably going to want to throw the riots against the government or something like that. Compared to growing up happy and getting everything you want. Idk if you think I am talking about immigrants or something like that but I mostly meant the antifa people.
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>>82518963
> but I mostly meant the antifa people.
aren't the antifa people white collage kiddies who live off mommy and daddys money and have such cushy lives they can't even throw a brick straight?
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>>82519000
No I think those were the ones doing the gaza protest. My point is it's just basic psychology in the 90/2000s no one would do shit because they were happy and felt like they had good lives.
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>>82517394
why is the left so angry at people who are so frustratingly stupid that they act against their class and mindlessly become tools for billionaires and the ruling class, thereby making the world worse for everyone who isnt rich at the cost of the entire planet?

gee, what a crazy difficult question. im sure your brilliant mind will arrive at a perfectly genius middle of the road solution though.
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>>82519046
The problem is, the libtards do this too, they just have a different cognitive dissonance.
The rightoids have come to believe that all oil companies, all warmongers, all corporations, and all billionaires except george soros are on the side of the people.
The libtards have come to believe that buying from billionaires who say nice things is the same thing as rebelling
Polls are a fucking scam, you vote with your bank card. And the capture is complete. Trying to buy from non-cunts only is both a herculean and sisyphean task, and that's for me, a kiwi living in the wops with a functioning car. burgers don't stand a chance.
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>>82519107
>The rightoids have come to believe that all oil companies, all warmongers, all corporations, and all billionaires except george soros are on the side of the people.
For an experiment, go to /pol/ and try asking for any random billionaire. Rightoids hate everything and everyone. They want all bankers dead, all media tycoons, all tech leaders (especially Thiel, Elon, Zuckerberg), all billionaire corps, etc.

Your view is heavily warped by the extremely strange reddit take that conflates 2000s neo-cons with the modern, vaguely fascist right. The majority of boomers, even if ostensibly pro-capitalism, are more bourgeois socialist (literally conservative socialism from Marx's Kapital) than capitalist. Reddit is just not your window into reality.
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it's not only seeing people as innocents or savages it's also the left just being the personification of femininity and the right being the personification of masculinity.

when you see a liberal a hootin' and a hollerin', cussin' and screeching at people like charlie kirk. just think "crazy bitch women" because that's what they are.
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>>82519046
leftists are the biggest billionaire bootlickers though, which is why smart people on the right HATE you fucking low IQ faggots for empowering billionaires constantly.

Billionaires want ONE thing: importing millions of "immigrants" to lower wages so that they can pocket the difference. This makes the rich richer, keeps wages DOWN, makes housing more expensive, makes schools more crowded, and hurts the poorest americans the most.

but libtards are ALL IN on importing every brownoid in the world to "own the chuds/suck the billionaire's dicks.
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>>82519046
>>82519107
>>82519145
Now you're about to realize that the right has spent the better part of almost two decades criticizing SJW and Woke business policies and has built up an uncontrollable volley of pent up rage against billionaires. All it would take is one misstep and a right wing revolution would begin impaling billionaires like Thiel. This is why the billionaire class is so fucking FAST with its switch from left to right social policy. Rightists are gaining power and they are fucking insane and bloodthirsty
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>>82519145
It's insane that rightoids believe this shit.
>ACTUALLY, FIGHTING BILLIONAIRES MEANS YOU'RE HELPING THE BILLIONAIRES
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>>82519129
Maybe the average /pol/tard hates all those things, but every single right wing politician will do anything to serve billionaires and mega corporations, and normal conservatives vote these politicians into power.
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>>82519167
It's insane that the left wing cannot understand basic economics.

name ONE thing that libshits have done to "fight billionaires" and no luigi doesn't count, he wasn't even left wing + he had zero effect
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>>82517394
>picrel
some fags are so deluded as to what is populated by chuds and what isn't
TF2 and this website are populated by just as many trannies or trannybrained individuals as any other game or social media.
Honestly the closest thing to a chud game would be any modern CoD, or sports game. Anything "niche" has significant tranny fanbase.
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>>82519129
Nigga /pol/ is more schizophrenic than /x/
Those are the fucking misanthropic malcontents that just wanna hear the guillotines. I know because I'm one myself, except I won't be cheering for the guillotines because I know whatever comes next is going to be just as bad.
Reddit is far closer to the normie rightoid, that's what it and twitter are for - gauging the overall normie condition, like a topographical map of propaganda efficacy.
Normie rightoids suck billionaire cock proudly, unless they say black people are people, then they make videos about burning shit...?
Anyway, the whole fucking place is a circus and the entire culture is retarded. The entire plantation owner class is evil by decree of law. It's intractable.
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>>82519170
Yes. So like most leftist politicians that are centrists with radically progressive social views, and most leftists disagree and want a more mainline socialist candidate, most rightists disagree with a lot of their political leaders and want something a bit more economically "leftist."
So you are completely right if your comparison is just for who is in a powerful or influential position.
>>82519182
Yeah. In my opinion chuds seem to gravitate towards single player oriented games or ones that are so-called classics.
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Why is op a drooling retard

If you leave the left alone they won't hurt anyone except maybe their own penis

If you leave the right alone historically they'll start lynching people who are different
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>>82519155
>he didn't tap the sign

The right didnt win anything lol

Leftists criticized Israel and Jewish power and it made the elites freak out

They decided to throw liberals under the bus to groom their new golems. The judeochristian zionist right
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>>82519199
the average normie leftist is not good at determining the political beliefs of the average normie rightoid, and r/conservative is not representative of the right because reddit had a longstanding history of mass admin level bannings. I got permanent ban from reddit as a whole just today for a post on r/conservative pointing out the role of Israel in american politics and referencing the pic related book and some quotes. My comment had more than a hundred "upvotes" so these are people who cannot speak their true beliefs even on r/conservative.
>>82519223
Yes true as well. But this is why they are tanking and killing off any non-zionist politicians and shaping the right into a distinctly pro-war pro-zionist party right now.
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>>82519199
>>82519228
And to be transparent, my ban came because I linked various rightist jews to israel, even if they did not have an explicitly pro-israel stance. This was of course typical antisemitism and hateful rhetoric, despite being true.
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>>82519155
Oh I know. Until obama I would have gone to bat for the democrats, my entire life not once have the republicans so much as paid lip service to basic decency and the idea that human lives are maybe more important than quarterly reports.
But now you just have 2 of those, the only discernible difference is what they think about queer people.
Fucking circus.
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>>82519242
Pfft getting banned from reddit is like falling off a tightrope. I got an account nuked for saying the people in r/NPD were narcissists.
American site.
Circus.
What a surprise.
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>>82519228
>>82519289
>two ledditors bitching about getting banned
go back.
oh- wait.
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>>82519309
>one retard who doesn't read threads
Go back to your puddle you fucking tardo. You're the amoeba we're studying. It's better that you just continue to interact with your own kind.
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>>82519346
>You're the amoeba we're studying.
Holy science I didn't realize I was in the presence of a scholar.
Sucks that you've been barred from discussing with your fellow reddit intellectuals.
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>>82519309
I made the account to talk about Charlie Kirk. It's just interesting to see how quick bans are even on what most of reddit considers a "hub of far right extremism." It's best not to spend all day exclusively on one single website and make it your single, sole, and only window into the world.
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>>82517943
>decent human being
KEK
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>>82518428
All male cast set in fifties with no diversity other than the black cyclops.
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>>82517394
Most political extremes are mentally ill people who switch sides all the time which is why you have transgenser racist mass shooters. It's a byproduct of the internet that a easily influenced outliner is stupis enough to think that everyone and everything is political when most people aren't even aware of what month it is.
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>>82519129
/pol/ is entirely filled with troll farms, I think a large portion of Russia's GDP goes towards it since they're betting on destabilizing the West by turning every social media view point against eachother, influencing elections to benefit Russia, and even rewriting entire ideologies. It's pretty profound.
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>>82517394
why is the nazi Larry King?
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>>82517994
I think they have a lack of experience with other things too, like the effects of systems they established. Which is why a lot of them are getting fired right now. I swear I thought it was common sense you dont celebrate murder with your name attached to something. I would've been shitcanned if I celebrated that pedophile rosenbaum getting domed by rittenhouse even after the verdict. Same with a number of other people. George Floyd? Lmao. And we did see a lot of lower class hicks and methheads getting fired for wanting Biden dead after the 2020 election or just plain election disputes, troon shit and more. Idk how people go through all that, probably laughing at it along the way just to do the exact same shit over a political assassination. And they're not even methheads you have professors, nurses, pilots, all kinds of higher education jobs where these people throw their entire livelihood away to do something I learned was bad at 12 years old. It's fucking shocking. That's before you even go into the weird demented edgelord shit like that Canadian teacher who made 10 year olds watch the video repeatedly. It's just wild to think about going your whole life and earning 6 figures just to throw it away because you don't have any impulse control. Like wouldnt you need that to get your position in the first place? It makes no sense to me.
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>>82519000
Antifa is semi wealthy college kids that have relations to the NLG and semi crackheads and ex cons going by the BLM protest years, presumably to be the muscle in crowds.
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>>82519973
Yeah. The very same systems they used to cancel and fire people for "hate" are now being applied, just as unequally, as they once applied them. They started it...
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>>82519145
I have never heard of a far leftist that likes billionaires lmao wtf are you talking about? I think you're confusing leftists with liberals (typical)



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