>date the borderline girls, they're madly in love with you!no one told me that they'd literally go into psychosis and hallucinate that i did/said things i didn't, and then cheat on me with 3 dudes and say i "made" her do it. then go into a demonic rage where her eyes roll into the back of her head and she starts hitting herself.after doing way too much research to figure out what the fuck was happening, I've learned that relationships with literal schizophrenics have better success rates than relationships with people who have BPD. And that BPD is several orders of magnitude further beyond the pale than I could have even begun to understand before getting involved with her.this is the first time i've googled an illness that google made seem better than the reality, rather than worse.
>>82544997That feel when no bpd girlfriend
>>82544997i feel like this is exactly what everyone always says about bpd whores any time they come up
>>82544997BPDs are the scum of the earth. I have zero pity for them and if I met one IRL I go out of my way to make them suffer as much as possible. It is not a wrong to harm them because they all deserve it.
>>82545015I always have a good thing to say about them. They're such expressive people and their ability to feel things so strongly is beautiful and somewhat tragic.
>>82545015Yeah, but experiencing it something else. I always just assumed it was just shit people doing all the cheating and whatever, but no, there are blatantly some wires crossed the wrong way in their skull.The clockwork nature of the push/pull pattern is so surreal to see happening in front of you. And if you mention that it's happening they have no idea what you're talking about and get furious.They're like automatons.
>>82545029> their ability to feel things so strongly is beautifulNot when it comes to any of the useful-for-learning and getting-along-with-others feelings, like empathy, guilt, and shame.They'll do literally anything to avoid facing those.
>>82544997>no one told me that they'd literally go into psychosis and hallucinate that i did/said things i didn't, and then cheat on me with 3 dudes and say i "made" her do itwe 100% told you this, but you have to decide if their insane feral lust for you is worth it or not
>>82545075BPDs feel those things very intensely and suffer quite a bit from it all. I've literally never had a problem with BPD people and I am constantly mystified as to how everyone gets so rekt by them. All you need to do is communicate effectively and know when to back off and pretty much every problem ceases to exist.
No shame, no regret, no apologies. Say they're one thing, act that way for some weeks, then turn into a different person, pretend they don't notice it. Terrible people
>>82545100This is how I know you've never had a partner with genuine BPD. There's no way to win. No matter what you do, they play out the cycle. If you don't do anything, they will make up something that you did.> I've literally never had a problem with BPD people and I am constantly mystified as to how everyone gets so rekt by them. Because they don't understand basic causality, think they can read your mind, think you can read their mind, blame you for problems they cause no matter how clearly you try and explain to them that you didn't do it, etc.There's no winning with these people when you're the FP.
>>82544997anyone else have the quiet presentation to the extreme? sometimes it feels so unfair hehe the world telling me im evil haha bad person disorder but deep down inside i know its true, im a cancer to be cut out. its okay, that's the worst part i want this...nobody hates me as much as me. maybe before i die i can be useful to someone instead of worthless J.Its okay its all my fault...i was pulling the strings all along...and I know it. and i even know what my biggest crime is but ill do it anyways. i never existed in the first place. i was born with a blank soul.maybe i can be useful to someone before i expend all my energy?
>>82545100>BPDs feel those things very intensely and suffer quite a bit from it all.This is nonsense, btw. Emotions like shame and empathy are suppressed by their bigger, more selfish emotions. They alleviate it all by sensory seeking. They never actually reflect on the pain they've caused others. At best they will one day realize that living the way they do kinda sucks and they should do something about it. That's about the most self-reflection you can expect from a cluster B. They're literally hardwired to believe that it's impossible for them to do anything wrong.
>>82545123I'm sorry that my life experiences don't match up with yours. >no matter how clearly you try and explain to them>clearlyBPD people aren't autistic, you don't need clear communication. You need to communicate that you aren't the enemy, that they're safe, that they're not being rejected or abandoned and you need to not get sucked into their energy. If they're not in a state where they can respond to that, then you need to back off and let them work through whatever is going on with them while still being available enough to not be abandoning them completely. I really think the issue is just an inability to effectively communicate. They aren't demons, they're just very sensitive people.
>>82545143>Emotions like shame and empathyEmpathy isn't an emotion. Regardless, of course they feel those things. They suffer immensely and take it out on themselves constantly. You're mistaking their outward defenses for their inward feelings. If you actually talk to these people you'll see that they're extremely capable of self-reflection but just have trouble pulling themselves out of their altered states.
>>82545157>You need to communicate that you aren't the enemy, that they're safeWhen I tried DBT skills like this, the ones she TOLD ME TO DO WHEN SHE WAS SPLITTING she would start howling and screaming at me to get the fuck out of her face.None of it actually works unless they're extraordinarily dedicated for many years. Are you with a BPD person now? lmao. Have fun when she discards you for Chad down the road.
>>82545140>useful Maybe you're hot?
>>82545179If being calm and reassuring isn't working then back off a little. I don't get the issue, she's telling you what to do. Go somewhere else and wait for her to calm down and then go reassure her. Something has upset her, try to figure out what it is. It's easier than trying to talk a schizo out of doing something crazy. >Are you with a BPD person now?I'm schizoid, I'm not with anyone and probably won't be any time soon barring someone falling out of the sky and latching on to me.
>>82545228>I don't get the issue, she's telling you what to do.Yeah, and guess what happened when I tried leaving?She accused me of threatening to abandon her. This is the smear she went with to justify the discard, actually.You. Cannot. Win.
I'm a bpd deathnic. Who will date me?
>>82545206Yeah, of course im hot! every human is hot...its called cellular respiration we are literally turning oxygen and carbon sugar into energy creating CO2... we are creature of fire...some burn stronger than others...some slower longer...but that's pointless. Some fire is evil burning down a forest and scarring people...some fire warms people around a campfire. but have no one to warm. i am alone in this world.
>>82545228>Something has upset her, try to figure out what it is.I spent days enduring her abusive toddler tantrum trying to figure out what the fuck her problem was. It didn't matter. They are totally incooperative. They have zero interest in conflict resolution. The distorted narratives they create in their heads will always take precedence over reality, or anything you have to say.
>>82545237You were abandoning her though, from her perspective. You need to be completely calm and make sure she understands that you're giving her room but not leaving her completely. Go sit on the opposite side of the room, if she's still unhappy go to an adjacent room but let her know you'll be there if she needs you. If she starts saying that you're abandoning her then come back a little. I understand being frustrated or not enjoying that kind of thing, maybe BPD girls just aren't right for you, but it's really not complicated at all. You just need to figure out the right level of distance. >>82545258That just sounds like you were in an abusive relationship, just leave at that point. If you're getting shit on non-stop the problem is her, why put up with it?
>>82545258>try to figure out what it isBiggest waste of time in the universe>she tells you what it is and you try to fix itBiggest waste of time in the universe>doing literally anything with a bpdemon besides fucking them and ignoring them the rest of the timeBiggest waste of time in the universe
>>82545281>just leave!>wait no, you can't JUST leave!!lol. i like how everyone has the answer to this extremely stressful situation in retrospect, behind their computer screens, without ever having dealt with any of these people in real life beyond arm's length acquaintanceship, or ever having to face a situation like this in their lives.>That just sounds like you were in an abusive relationship, just leave at that point. If you're getting shit on non-stop the problem is her, why put up with it?The abuse was a direct manifestation of her BPD symptoms, retard. And I did leave her. If she tries to come crawling back a 9th time I'll laugh in her face.
>>82545328>extremely stressful situationI truly don't understand why it would be stressful. It's no different from any other social interaction. It's actually more interesting since it's not banal oh the weather sure is nice today style talk. >The abuse was a direct manifestation of her BPD symptomsCompletely opposite from my typical experience with them. Sorry it happened to you, but it's not a universal thing.
Yayy this thread was made so I can ask questions to anonMy friend recently told me she was diagnosed with bpd and has been ignoring me for some days, responding days later, and she told me some retarded excuse like she wasn't on her phone much which was a lie because I saw her online, but anyways she was talking to me everyday for some months, even always being the first one to message me, and just started this a week ago, is this change permanent??
>>82545361>why would it be stressful for someone who you were planning for marriage and children with the previous day to suddenly start saying crueler things to you than the worst enemies you've ever had ever did before storming out, and leaving on a PLANE to fuck men in another countryah, clever troll. you almost had me.
>>82545393She monkey branched, won't admit even when confronted
I thought I might be BPD until I met a real BPD girl and saw all the fucking inhuman shit she did and then I realized there's no way I'm even in the ballpark of that and that's how I found out I'm probably just cPTSD
>>82545421I'm not trolling. The relationship is over at that point, so you should be getting hit with that sweet post-relationship relief. Now you can be single again, now you can be yourself again. I'm honestly not seeing why you'd be upset, especially since she clearly wasn't the right person for you.
>>82545393It might be permanent. One thing I do now, is that calling her out on it will make her distance herself even more. BPDs can't tolerate being called out lol. Anything that could potentially cause shame will launch them into a rage spiral.You have to validate everything, no matter how retarded. That's how weak they are.
>>82545437>The relationship is over at that point, so you should be getting hit with that sweet post-relationship relief.That isn't how trauma bonds work at all, actually. I'm not sure how you didn't know that, given how much you pretend to know about BPD. These are notoriously the most painful break ups.
>>82545441>You have to validate everything, no matter how retarded. That's how weak they are.that sounds like NPD not BPD
>>82545452Oh, you bonded with someone? Big mistake buddy. Everyone always leaves in the end. >given how much you pretend to know about BPDYou didn't tell me that you were bpd too. I'd never condone two bpds dating each other, way too chaotic
>>82545462r9k is incapable of telling the difference between a npd with bpd characteristics, a bpd with npd characteristics, and a vanilla bpd. NPD is to be avoided at all costs.
>>82545436>just bitches about weeds instead of ripping them out
>>82545480if they're literally incapable of ever taking accountability that's just NPD
>>82545430Aw I searched it up, this sucks :|She told me she was okay and didn't need the medications when I asked her about it, is this a lie they use??>>82545441Okay I'll try to confront her, it probably is permanent, ffuck she's my only friend
>>82545489Yeah that's what I said. I think all these anti-bpd people here have just been victimized by npds that call themselves bpd because it's better social cred. I was raised by an npd and I can smell them a mile away, I avoid those freaks like the plague.
>>82545462It's both. BPD presents fairly similarly to NPD, actually. The differences are in the underlying psychology. BPDs are chaotic and a consequence of reacting to their retarded emotions. NPDs are colder and more calculated.But there's a ton of overlap (up to 40% of people with BPD have comorbid NPD), and some psychiatrists even just diagnose it all as cluster B spectrum now and treat for individual traits.>>82545467>thread about relationship disorder>"oh. you..... *pushes glasses up nose*...bonded...with someone?"I've never met someone less interested in talking about anything meaningful than you before.
>>82545489>if they're literally incapable of ever taking accountability that's just NPDThis is wrong, btw. Why are you just making things up about BPD now?>>82545501> I was raised by an npd and I can smell them a mile awaySo was I. BPD is much different, but they still need constant validation, and refused to take accountability for anything. This is very well understood, and DBT even has units on things like practicing accountability.
>>82545515>in talking about anything meaningful than you beforeIf you just characterize a rather complex disorder as the devil incarnate, there's not much to talk about. It's not interesting to sit around and say oh yeah they're terrible oh yeah they're evil. You have zero cognitive flexibility. What's the point of being serious with you? Some BPDs are god awful, some depressives are god awful, some schizos are god awful; people typically suck. I have had many good experiences with BPD people, which you seem to just deny happening at all lol. I can believe you had bad ones. I've certainly BPD people who I wouldn't want to interact with. But there's no point in having a meaningful conversation with you if you're insistent that all BPD people are the exact same shade of evil. So don't act like you're somehow on the intellectual high ground here good sir.
>>82545515man stop talking like you know anything narcs aren't cool or smart or calculating they're chaotic toddlet brained retards>>82545501narcs will either claim to be BPD or some kind of Machiavellian sociopath because admitting they're just mentally stuck in the single digits is literally impossible to themyou will never ever get a diagnosis or confession of NPD, you just need to actually trust your real judgment and figure out when someone is just behaving like donald trump and realize "oh that's a narcissist"
>>82545528>but they still need constant validation, and refused to take accountability for anythingAnd see, again with the broad strokes. Not all BPD people refuse to take accountability for anything. Some do, some don't. It is not "very well understood" that all BPDs are like that, I don't think it's even well understood that BPD is a single disorder (it's not).
>>82545545>If you just characterize a rather complex disorder as the devil incarnateI didn't say anything about devils or the supernatural. Their brains are just broken in a way that incentivises them to do bad thing. Kind of like pedophilia.>>82545554>man stop talking like you know anything What I wrote was correct.>narcs aren't cool or smartNo one said they were.
bunch of fucking narcs trying to claim they're an innocent BPD victim and not ontologically evil ITT
>>82545554>you just need to actually trust your real judgmentExactly. I think people here get desperate and go for the first member of their preferred sex to give them attention and don't think to filter at all. Bad people usually come off as bad people. >>82545574>supernaturalBruh, I wasn't being literal. Even if their brains incentivize them to do bad things, that doesn't mean they always do bad things. Everyone has incentives to do harm, most people don't act on it constantly and most BPD people don't either.
>>82545554>because admitting they're just mentally stuck in the single digits is literally impossible to themNPDs actually have a later trauma wound than BPD, though.BPDs are like literal babies emotionally. NPDs are more like toddlers.>Even if their brains incentivize them to do bad things, that doesn't mean they always do bad things.What's your point? Not even ASPDs always do bad things.
I miss my bpd partner so much, I cheated on her and she cheated on me back but with like 5x the men, she didn't break up with me over that but it was the catalyst, when we were arguing she just said "I'm done with you, I've lost feelings", and blocked meI've tried contacting her like 2 times and both of those times she got her friends to harass me, claiming I abused a poor innocent soulThere's no way to get her to like me again is there
>>82545588>>Even if their brains incentivize them to do bad things, that doesn't mean they always do bad things.What's your point? Not even ASPDs always do bad things.>and most BPD people don't either.To say it's "most" is dubious as fuck. Gonna need a source for that data chief.
>>82545609stop trying to excuse yourself for your behavior
>>82545653She might hoover you later on, but it will never be the same as before, and the discards will only become more and more degrading.>>82545657I wasn't talking about my behavior.
>>82544997why does every stupid nigger without a personality have bpd now?
>>82545554>"oh that's a narcissist"this is true. but its giga obvious, the only contradiction is the flapping of their words. again NPD is a serious illness, i feel bad for them usually a maladaptive way of surviving in the world at the expense of others...but they will usually never get help unless they literally have nothing and they will take everything down from others before they have nothing...its a shame and even when they are forced humility usually its just a band-aid fix not the deeply rooted problem which is the core issue their crippling black hole insecurity and lack of compassion for others.There's lots of presentations for NPD though not all are donald trump (malignant narcissist) some are mostly harmless...but i wouldn't really get too close unless you knew what you were doing
>>82545694>every stupid nigger without a personality have bpd nowsource?>>82545698> NPD is a serious illness, i feel bad for them usually a maladaptive way of surviving in the world at the expense of others...but they will usually never get help unless they literally have nothing and they will take everything down from others before they have nothing...its a shame and even when they are forced humility usually its just a band-aid fix not the deeply rooted problem which is the core issue their crippling black hole insecurity and lack of compassion for others.All of this applies to BPD verbatim, too, btw. Happy to clear that up.
>>82545726>source this thread, you are all just assholes trying to blame something other than you being assholes.
>>82545754Only like 1 person has claimed to have BPD in the entire thread so far. Did you even read it?
NPD is literally evil, it is BIBLICAL evilBPD is evil but "you feel bad about it"
>>82545779If you shit on BPD on the internet, have fun with then 2500 harpies sending you death threat emails.Meanwhile if you shit on NPD online, no one cares lol. NPDs don't even want to talk about NPD, let alone defend it.
>>82545726>All of this applies to BPD verbatim, too, btw. Happy to clear that up.Yes you are correct but BPD is more about annihilating the self, not being a bad girlfriend, most people don't really have any idea what BPD really is and mistake the (positive) symptoms for the illness like coughing doesn't mean you have aids...you could also have lung cancer or y'know...just a cold? And with bpd the most important core symptoms besides fear of real and perceived abandonment are all negative symptoms anyways. Most people that are diagnosed with bpd online by angry partners do not have it, maybe they have npd or just are shitty people. BPD is something more serious.
>>82545653move on. for her and for you. you already knew what was gonna happen,but you did it anyways.
>>82545847>BPD is more about annihilating the selfNo, it's about protecting and sustaining their fractured sense of self. You talk with such an air of superiority for someone who has done so little reading on this.
>>82545862There are many presentations but yeah your description isn't inaccurate. And I have done a truly astonishing amount of reading on this and spent a very long time trying to understand my disorder...but yeah I know that disqualifies me from having an opinion of course what would an actual person suffering from the illness know about what its like?your previous post is pretty shit, NPD is BPD? they're separate diagnoses and yeah >>82545862 isn't too bad, but anyways I dunno stop trying to oversimplify it.
>>82545847>Most people that are diagnosed with bpd online by angry partners do not have itI see this cope being made by pwBPD a lot, and it's exactly the kind of thing my ex would unironically believe. She also believes that she hasn't been abusive, which of course, she has. She could convince herself the moon was made of cheese if it gave her the tools to avoid shame.BPD itself incentivizes the narrative you're trying to spin here. It gives you away like a sore thumb.
itt: psychology is a meme science
>>82545882Then why does it predict the BPD relationship cycle with such near-perfect accuracy it's almost deterministic? This whole situation has given me a new respect for psych as a field of study.
>have BPD but quiet BPD so never lash out at others and people don't even recognize it as suchI just catastrophize hard and act really clingy and think people hate me easily.
>>82545877>BPD itself incentivizes the narrative you're trying to spin here. It gives you away like a sore thumb.I'm not your ex. I know I've made mistakes, that's the problem with you people. You misunderstand what empathy or more precisely what emotional sensitivity is...if they feel what I feel (anger, accusation) why don't they obey my command? But I resonate to frequencies, of course I will be defensive if you're angry with me because then that makes me angry.I'm not trying to excuse my behaviour...I know having a sensitive temperament doesn't excuse accountability but I just wish people would try to understand instead of chucking me in comfortable labels and boxes. I'm not perfect. No one is. Sorry if your ex hurt you, but I am not she, and BPD is like cancer two people with brain cancer aren't the same because they have an illness.
>>82545763>readno
>>82545882>psych is a meme science>oh, and also trannies are mentally ill, and niggers have low IQhe said without a hint of irony.
>>82545899nobody hates you, you hate you and its incredibly obvious, and that spills over all you can do is give but there is nothing to be attracted to. that's the sad thing about losing identity
>>82545907Being emotional and angry is fine. It's when you start doing cruel things to people that it becomes a problem.
>>82545946>It's when you start doing cruel things to people that it becomes a problem.Yes, that's pretty obvious...but many people with BPD don't do cruel things well can be volatile and neglectful but not every people suffering BPD is the most classical "presentation" suicide threats cutting cheating that's a very specific subset of BPD which unfortunately isn't uncommon...but that's not BPD. There's people with BPD who do none of that. Anyways I'm not saying you're wrong to be apprehensive of us.We're neither angel faced demons nor demon faced angels. We are just humans. Please don't blame an acronym for all your relationship problems, I wouldn't blame jews for central banking or blacks for crime, or white for genocide and colonialism...so why us?
>>82545907Being accountable doesn't mean there's something wrong with you. Taking ownership of your actions is respectable behavior. People will like you more if you do that, even if you have done bad things, which we all have.
>>82544997had a BPD mother and swore to myself I would never date a BPD girl. Got an ADHD girl with anxiety issues so its like im dating BPD-lite. She loves me to a frankly unhealthy degree and I doubt I'll ever get this much loyalty from another whore my age, but man is it tiring sometimes helping her deal with her issues.
>>82545943>nobody hates youEverybody does.>you hate you and its incredibly obviousHow?>but there is nothing to be attracted to.I have a fat ass and sex is allegedly good but yeah that's about all I have to offer
>>82545974>She loves me to a frankly unhealthy degreehow long have you been dating?this is an extremely relevant variable.
>>82545980>Everybody does.What makes you think that?To be honest I think you sound a bit sad in an emo way...but how can anyone hate someone like that?>>82545899>How?>I just catastrophize hard and act really clingy and think people hate me easily.Literally the first thing you told me about you is devaluing yourself. Would you try and sell me a phone and say oh btw this phone kinda sucks?>>82545980>I have a fat ass and sex is allegedly good but yeah that's about all I have to offerI'm sure you have alot more than that. You sounds kind, and you definitely have humility and understanding. C'mon, wake up, you know people need you.
>>82545986A year and a half. She gets teary on the phone if we don't see each other for 2 weeks. I'm also convinced I might have NPD (very strong signs point that my dad has it) so we're both mentally ill freaks. I've suppressed the behaviors I inherited from my dad because I hate the cocksucker that much, but the feelings of disdain for the neuroticism she experiences still linger at times.
I haven't used this board since the site went down months ago and it really feels like the board got so dead the entire board culture got soft-reset into like 2015
>>82546008>A year and a half.Does she ever get really angry with you out of nowhere for reasons that don't make any sense?
>>82546011I think just to the extent that it's typical woman shit. You know, the classic hangry-but-can't-tell, that sort of stuff. Just bad emotional regulation where she'll be generally upset but can't pinpoint why. Never really directed at me, and she VERY rarely takes it out on me.
>>82545917>noyou didn't bother to read a thread with a bunch of retards spewing made up bullshit they saw on tiktok?
>>82546003>What makes you think that?Everybody's cruel to me or indicates they don't respect me. It's overt in some cases, but more subtle in others. Just the way people treat Other People is very, very different from the way they do me. I'm never invited to do anything with others. People will talk over me. If I express concern or try to offer help, I'm totally disregarded and they have to find a solution from first principles. People will demonize me for things others get a pass for. I don't really have the berth to exist as others do because I'm treated like garbage by everyone except maybe like, idk, infants? They do like me. >Literally the first thing you told me about you is devaluing yourself. Would you try and sell me a phone and say oh btw this phone kinda sucks?It's not like I walk around in real life doing that, silly. I'm only saying this because this is an anonymous basket weaving forum. Nobody needs me unless I groom them into liking me, and I feel bad about that (adults, lest I'm assigned the least charitable interpretation).
>>82546008I thought I might have NPD for a brief period, but I just blatantly do experience empathy. Literally the only reason I took back my ex (with BPD) the first two times was because I can so viscerally feel how much she suffers and I wanted to help her. This was still a bad decision, given how mindbogglingly insane the splits started to get near the end. Now my advice is just to leave. It will only hurt more later.
>>82546024>I think just to the extent that it's typical woman shit.Contrary to incel belief, that's not actually an inherently female trait. Mentally healthy women can regulate their emotions.
>>82546037>Everybody's cruel to me or indicates they don't respect me. It's overt in some cases, but more subtle in others. Just the way people treat Other People is very, very different from the way they do me.You know, a lot of people feel this way. This isn't exclusive to BPD. Consider that while injustices exist, you aren't being singled out for any sort of unique hatred. There are cunts everywhere who will look down at you for all sorts of different reasons. Their thoughts about you have little to do with your value.
>>82546076>Uhhh yeah everyone else is a jerk you are a pure innocent angel who dindu nuffin
>>82546037>Everybody's cruel to me or indicates they don't respect me. It's overt in some cases, but more subtle in others. Just the way people treat Other People is very, very different from the way they do me.Have you considered that y'know...this is bullshit and that people do like you? I mean you literally have a serious mental illness that cements this...it could just be in your head y'know what about the evidence that people actually like your presence? You seem like a pretty kind soul to me.>>82546037>People will talk over me. If I express concern or try to offer help, I'm totally disregarded and they have to find a solution from first principles. People will demonize me for things others get a pass for. I don't really have the berth to exist as others do because I'm treated like garbage by everyone except maybe like, idk, infants? They do like me.I'm sorry to hear that but surely it can't happen all the time...>>82546037>Nobody needs me unless I groom them into liking me, and I feel bad about that (adults, lest I'm assigned the least charitable interpretation).If that's your default "Modus Operandi" then yeah it would explain why people don't like you aren't as clever as you think, no one is...they can see through your intentions. Don't do that, its evil not a foundation for a healthy relationship based on mutual TRUST.
>>82546039My empathy is more logical, if that makes sense. I have a set of beliefs that I am principled on, but I don't really "feel" empathy for those wronged (ie, I think genocide is bad, so I defend the cause of Palestinians, but I don't think I really truly feel empathy for them). I also have a very strong disdain for neuroticism and poor emotional regulation - my gf just makes up for it with the rest of her personality and her looks and body. I do get angry when things I perceive as at least cognizant do not behave in the way I want them to. I remember having to separate my mom's cats when they were younger because they kept fighting (one kept instigating). Despite my repeated attempts to get the instigator to behave, he wouldn't, so I would occasionally hit the cat fairly hard to vent my frustration. Bad, I know, and hypocritical since I just said I don't like neuroticism. Stuff like that as well as mirrored behavior from my dad leads me to believe I have NPD.>>82546049It's certainly uncommon, however.
>>82546085>American reading and grammar comprehension
>>82546089I haven't made friends in fifteen years. I'm pretty sure no one likes me. And yes, it happens all the time. I don't intentionally groom them. It's not malevolent.
>>82546097>It's certainly uncommon, however.How would you even know that? It's not like you've dated nearly enough women to form a meaningful sample population, and even if you did, it would be an inherently biased selection.
>>82546101>I haven't made friends in fifteen years. I'm pretty sure no one likes me.I like you, not just cause pity...cause I can relate to you. You sound lonely...lets be lonely together if you want. Otherwise you got no excuse!>I don't intentionally groom them. It's not malevolent.Grooming usually implies deliberate and premeditated behaviour maybe you didn't choose words properly, maybe you're just manipulative which is something you can do subconsciously if it turns into a habit, but its not your fault just a habit that formed because you were afraid to be alone...anyways its not good or healthy, but it takes time again stop looking at BPD like a character defect and more like an illness (like aids) I'm sorry but that really is what it's closer to it takes years before most people go into "remission". But hope is better than despair isn't it?
>>82546034IKR, it's a circle jerk wondering why mentally ill people aren't perfect normafag angels
>>82546117Touche.I don't think my gf is BPD. She is nowhere near as bad as my mom or my older sister (who I'm fairly certain also has BPD). She is a little emotionally disregulated, yes, but to the extent that it can be blamed on hormones or anxiety or ADHD drawing her attention to places it shouldn't and whatnot. She is not an unreasonable person and is both aware of her disregulation and tries to stop it when she sees it happening, to varying levels of success.
>>82544997Quiet bpd checking in
John Gunderson himself says DBT requires 8-16 years of dedicated and enthusiastic participation to achieve appreciable relief from BPD symptoms.If you've ever met someone with BPD, the thought of a BPD person actually being able to stick to anything this long term is some pretty good comedy.
>>82546097>My empathy is more logical, if that makes sense. I have a set of beliefs that I am principled on, but I don't really "feel" empathy for those wronged (ie, I think genocide is bad, so I defend the cause of Palestinians, but I don't think I really truly feel empathy for them). I also have a very strong disdain for neuroticism and poor emotional regulation - my gf just makes up for it with the rest of her personality and her looks and body. I do get angry when things I perceive as at least cognizant do not behave in the way I want them to. I remember having to separate my mom's cats when they were younger because they kept fighting (one kept instigating). Despite my repeated attempts to get the instigator to behave, he wouldn't, so I would occasionally hit the cat fairly hard to vent my frustration. Bad, I know, and hypocritical since I just said I don't like neuroticism. Stuff like that as well as mirrored behavior from my dad leads me to believe I have NPD.That's called cognitive empathy honestly you sound more autistic than NPD but do not self diagnose also you can have both they have the exact same symptoms but different causes: autism your brain is born different you experience the world different, less direct empathy more cognitive as you described...NPD is from crippling insecurity and trauma they have normal "neurologies" but its more psychodynamic, two totally different illnesses with very similar symptoms, if you really suspect NPD then go to a therapist...but considering you even think you have NPD and sound introspective...I'm think its a hard NO. Probably would get checked for the 'tism though...
>>82546159>John Gunderson himself says DBT requires 8-16 years of dedicated and enthusiastic participation to achieve appreciable relief from BPD symptoms.Well that;s not too bad considering that for most people with actual non-larp BPD usually have symptoms starting at early puberty or early teens at latest...but yeah usually its worst from 20-30 and gets better after, part of it is just...growing up lol
>>82546097>(ie, I think genocide is bad, so I defend the cause of Palestinians, but I don't think I really truly feel empathy for them)It's normal to feel the related emotions stronger as the subject you are empathizing with has fewer degrees of separation from you. I don't feel strong emotions for wars on the other side of the world either, I mostly use cognitive empathy like what you describe here.NPD people will feel cold toward the closest people in their lives. To people who love them and stand by them through anything. (BPDs will do this too lmao but at least their love was "real" at one point, unlike the NPD).
>>82546160I am also extremely insecure (though I never show it and try to not let it affect me) and definitely a little traumatized. Wonderful how autism and NPD overlap, eh? I've gone to a therapist before and I'm just convinced that whatever the fuck's going on with me is hardwired unfortunately. I cope enough as is to function and get my work done and be a good partner. That's enough for me. I don't want more self improvement on my plate if the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
>>82546178>that;s not too bad considering that for most people with actual non-larp BPD usually have symptoms starting at early puberty or early teens at latest.It can take decades before they even start to think something might be wrong lol (besides being in horrible emotional distress all the time, which will be misdiagnosed as depression, bipolar, panic disorder, etc. for likely years until they finally figure out that it's BPD).
>>82546178>usually its worst from 20-30 and gets better afterIt's not the case that it "usually" gets better after 30. It can in some cases. It's not typical though. The reason things seem to get better is that they give up on romantic relationships and start microdosing validation from larger social circles. This usually stops the patterns of self-harm and suicide attempts. The BPD itself didn't get better, though; this is just mitigating external triggers.
>>82545243Me ofc (originality, jic)
>>82546197>Wonderful how autism and NPD overlap, eh?BPD too.
>>82546229forgot to include the infographic lol
>>82546187>NPD people will feel cold toward the closest people in their lives. To people who love them and stand by them through anything. (BPDs will do this too lmao but at least their love was "real" at one point, unlike the NPD).That describes me pretty well. I am principled on how I should behave in my relationship, but truthfully? If it ended tomorrow I think I could fully recover within 2-3 weeks. I do all the right things because I know its the right thing to do in a relationship. I say all the cheesy and romantic things because I know its what she wants. I anticipate her needs because I know that's what keeps the spark going and what I ought to do, and it's really not too much effort for me. This principle applies to basically everyone close to me.I can go weeks or months without talking to my close friends and family and feel fine. Out of sight, out of mind. I get asked why I don't call. I just don't think about them. I have my own life to live. I don't miss them or get homesick or whatever. I don't crave their company. I can tell that this is definitely not how most people think of the people close to them.I don't necessarily maintain my relationships with my friends and family out of some machievallian desire to benefit from them, but usually because they reach out and it's no skin off my back to hang out with them, and oftentimes at least engaging to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3vkzCTCRgEi love listening to these nerds.
>>82546251It's funny when you think about how the disorder he's talking about is the one that makes Stacy want to get railed by the entire hockey team.
>>82546237Do you ever get violent urges? Or like, a strong desire to hurt anyone
Here's a blob talking about the viability of BPD relationships.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNO0WaLssYE
>>82546288When I'm feeling particularly self-loathing I get the urge to lash out and physically hurt other people I see as better than me, yes.I know NPD is synonymous with being blind to your own actions so I'm not sure what that makes me.
>>82546010Sounds like a good thing to me idk
>>82546302You might yet be blind to your own actions. How would I know if you left vital details out or not? Lies by omission are a sneaky cluster B tactic. Not saying this is the case, but it's something I think about whenever I find out someone I know identifies with one of these acronyms.
>>82546325This is true. You don't know what you don't know.Does the bit about violent urges confirm/ cross out any options? I've not discussed this aspect of myself with a therapist. Last time I went to therapy was exclusively focused on coping methods for depression and executive dysfunction.
>>82546197>whatever the fuck's going on with me is hardwired unfortunatelyThat would imply autism, autism is neurological its not a mental illness, its a neruodivergence...you're not inferior or superior...just different, like comparing cats and dogs or wondering why a fish can't climb a tree...or why monkeys cannot swim (they sink like rocks)Based on what you're telling me definitely would look into NPD, yes there is alot of "comorbidity" between autism and NPD...but that does NOT sound like you...you sound extremely introspective...more "what's wrong with me" instead of "what wrong with them"
>>82546234this is a pretty crappy infographic as a psych student...not talking about the core symptoms please consult dsm-5
>>82546345>Does the bit about violent urges confirm/ cross out any options?I was trying to gage if maybe you had ASPD. and I'm still not sure, but it seems unlikely. you're honestly probably just an autist overthinking it.
>>82546229>Wonderful how autism and NPD overlap, eh?>BPD too.Lmao. It sure as fuck don't. I know it's easier for narcissists to say they have "autism"(made up bullshit)
>>82546237>That describes me pretty well. I am principled on how I should behave in my relationship, but truthfully? If it ended tomorrow I think I could fully recover within 2-3 weeks. I do all the right things because I know its the right thing to do in a relationship. I say all the cheesy and romantic things because I know its what she wants. I anticipate her needs because I know that's what keeps the spark going and what I ought to do, and it's really not too much effort for me. This principle applies to basically everyone close to me.>I can go weeks or months without talking to my close friends and family and feel fine. Out of sight, out of mind. I get asked why I don't call. I just don't think about them. I have my own life to live. I don't miss them or get homesick or whatever. I don't crave their company. I can tell that this is definitely not how most people think of the people close to them.>I don't necessarily maintain my relationships with my friends and family out of some machievallian desire to benefit from them, but usually because they reach out and it's no skin off my back to hang out with them, and oftentimes at least engaging to do so.There is literally nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with being selfish as long as you don't harm others...but that's not even being selfish that's just not being selfless in a society that glorifies self-sacrifice.
>>82546345Also, re: violent urges bit, I did half-act on them once. My gf is 3" taller than me and weighs a good 50lb more, so she can pick me up without me being able to really do anything about it. Well, fairly early on in the relationship she was visiting me at my dorm with my roommates and kept picking me up as a form of teasing in front of them. Definitely a little emasculating and I was already kind of the punching bag of the group so I was not really having it, but to not seem like a little whiny bitch I just pretended it wasn't bothering me. Nonchalant and all that.Well, she kept fucking doing it, tried picking me up and literally carrying me to a different room where my roommates were hanging out to keep the bit going. I fucking snapped when she set me down (not in view of my roommates) and pushed her against a wall and told her to stop with quite a bit of threat behind it. I was still infuriated so I shook her quite violently. The part I've never told her is that even that was a suppression of the urge to put my hands on her neck and choke her, HARD.
>>82546385>It sure as fuck don't.Of course it does. It has even been proposed that autism increases the risk factor for BPD.>Black-and-white thinking, also known as dichotomous thinking, is a common cognitive pattern in individuals with autism, where they perceive situations in absolute terms, seeing things as either all good or all bad, with no middle ground. This thinking style can impact their social interactions, emotional regulation, and decision-making processes, often leading to misunderstandings and difficulties in adapting to change.
>>82546419Well don't do that, don't act on violent thougts again you don;t have to be NPD to be evil or vice versa...like that other anon you really just sound like and autist overthinking it, its glaringly obvious
>>82546037>Everybody's cruel to me or indicates they don't respect me. It's overt in some cases, but more subtle in others. Just the way people treat Other People is very, very different from the way they do me. >I'm never invited to do anything with others. People will talk over me. If I express concern or try to offer help, I'm totally disregarded and they have to find a solution from first principles. People will demonize me for things others get a pass for. I don't really have the berth to exist as others do because I'm treated like garbageThis is true as fuck, it's crazy how someone does something and gets away with it while you can't
BPD isn't real there's only misdiagnosed NPD and cPTSD"BUT LE SHADES OF GREY"fuck off
>>82546785I also enjoy pop psychology
>>82546887do u only go in for fucking radical niche counterculture psychology or something faggot
>>82546895No I'm just making fun of you for reading about cPTSD and BPD and deciding that BPD doesn't real, it's a very heterodox view
>>82546905what the fuck is a heterodox
>>82546942The opposite of orthodox
>>82546954that's not real stop making shit up
>>82547191Excuse me but YOU aren't real and I demand that you cease your attempts to exist
>>82546785>I said so, after all
>>82547197what the frick dude?? ff..
>>82547670Shhh, just fade away. It's ok. It's better this way.
I can't tell if my gf has BPD or if she's autistic and incredibly traumatised, with no stability in her life.She's never done anything bad to me in the 6 months I've known her but she keeps self harming and trying to kill herself, but that could be because her whole life has been a complete shitshow.
>>82544997I'm still somewhat aware RN but I think a manic episode is impending I literally can't sleep and am running off of one hour of sleep the previous night
>>82547813I'm losing more and more control of myself by the day
>>82547805>she keeps self harming and trying to kill herselfthat's a pretty strong sign of bpd. keep an eye out for splitting behavior. black and white thinking. if she has BPD, there will come a moment where her brain recontextualizes all her memories of you and thinks you're an evil monster. she won't listen to a word you say, and that's when you'll know.
>>82547861>keep an eye out for splitting behavior. black and white thinking.Could you give an example of these? I don't really know the terminology.
Hiya bpd experts, is it possible for autistic women to have bpd?Just there is this autistic girl I was talking with who was showing some bpd traits
bpd doesnt actually exist. its one of those "conditions" that exist because noone has the balls to slap the fuck out of someone and correct them. like how boomers say adhd isnt a real disorder, though adhd is, to a degree.
>>82547813I don't know if I should call the ambulance or not because I'm wide the fuck awake at 2 AM and can't sleep due to being so energetic
>>82547948Yeah I'll be fine
>>82547978Does mania use last a long time for you? You can just wait it out.
>>82547903she loves you a lot right now, right?well, when she splits, she will despise you. and she won't remember that she ever loved you.
>>82548093I've never had it this intense before. My pupils are actually dilated rn which is a sign of impending mania.
>>82548152Like I can't sleep or stay asleep because everything is going on in my mind all at once
>>82548145And this just happens for no reason whatsoever?
>>82548160And now I'm starting to have auditory hallucinations uh oh. They're faint but they are there it's like 2 AM and I'm wide the fuck awake like I'm not tired
>>82548152>>82548160If you feel unsafe it might be a good idea to get help, they can give you a sedative. You could try focusing on your breathing too, but if you're already too excited that might be hard.
>>82548180But I don't wanna lose my gun rights!!! I'll just brave it
>>82548209Be safe anon. Try to calm yourself down if you can.
>>82548223What beautiful things are in store?
>>82548323All the wonders of the world anon
>>82548343I heard that things could easily spiral to psychosis is this true
>>82544997i feel bad for people with bpd. they didnt choose to be literally unbearableif i had bpd id just end it all
>>82548355It can sometimes, you have to keep yourself grounded. Remind yourself that you're just in a weird headspace and it's not real.
Hi!! ^_^What do you do to attract someone with BPD and keep them from turning to hate you or running away?? :)I want to have Manic BPD fights and kiss and maybe get stabbed a little bit!
>>82548376I think I'll be fine but my mania lasts a week and I'm already only running on an hour of sleep rn.
>>82548165It happens for a reason, but it won't feel like that to you. You won't be able to make sense of it.It's one of the biggest mindfucks I've ever experienced from another human.
>>82548563Do you have a psychiatrist? Getting a mood stabilizer that you only use in times like this might be helpful. Alternatively maybe you can get some chamomile tea, I doubt it'll do much but it might calm you a little bit.
Mood stabilization is fake and gay, people are so cute when they're having a meltie
>>82545015It's almost as if similar patterns of behavior that meet a diagnostic criteria for a mental illness all yield similar end results.>>82544997>>82545044Sorry you had to find out the hard way OP but now that you know hopefully you won't be touching the proverbial 'hot stove top' again.
>>82545123>There's no winning with these people when you're the FP. And what people don't realize is that being the FP never lasts. Its like a little kid with a new toy, they think its the greatest thing in the world... until they get bored of it. Then the real feelings start to surface.
>>82548576Idk what's happening to me is not like BPD though I do have it
>>82548648How to change from being the Favorite Person to being the Forever Person??? Is it just impossible with a BPD
>>82548655It might be a good idea to see someone about it. Mood weirdness isn't uncommon with BPD though so I think it's not too strange that you're getting this kind of symptom.
>>82548685Well BP1 runs on both sides of my family so that's why I'm getting uneasy
>>82548676>Is it just impossible with a BPDMore or less. DBT is a huge cope and takes forever and even then the best they can hope for is remission. It can still come back out at any time, especially when life gets stressful.
>>82545228>I'm schizoid, I'm not with anyone and probably won't be any time soon barring someone falling out of the sky and latching on to me.Yeah see that's the thing. This is about normal people who've been in actual relationships with BPD people. Schizoids are emotional doormats who don't react to BPD people and also never get close enough to them to get the full dose of what their craziness looks like. They aren't the same people they present themselves to be with people they keep in their outer circle of relationships. Even literal psychos can put up a mask to conceal who they really are when it's just a casual acquaintance they don't have an intimate relationship with. You idealizing them is because as an emotionless robot you are fascinated by the existence of people with the opposite problem who have too much emotionality. But trust me buddy, when you are around an over emotional adult long enough the novelty wears off quicker than you'd think.
>>82548914>They aren't the same people they present themselves to be with people they keep in their outer circle of relationships.This was the wildest part. The lies she told our enmeshed circle. The smear campaign to throw me under the bus, all for the sake of suppressing shame.They really do believe their own bullshit, though. They have to, or their fractured ego crumbles into dust.
What about a Quiet BPD foid x Schizoid-AuDHD male Could they make it work
>>82548973No. The BPD will quickly figure out that the schizoid is low grade supply and monkey branch to a closer approximation of Chad.
>>82548991What if he uses his autism to fixate on gaining muscle and power and she's a virgin?
>>82549027>virgin>BPDahahahaha
If she doesn't bleed on our wedding night I'm beating her to an inch of her life and then annulling the marriage.
>>82549050>If she doesn't bleed on our wedding night I'm beating her to an inch of her life and then annulling the marriage.why?
Sadism bros, how do we keep winning?>Removed from the DSM as a personality disorder due to overlap with NPD and ASPD>Even though it can exist on it's own without either personality disorder being present>normies mistake sadism with confidence and dominance>Even though we only actually care about the pain we inflict lolAnd the best part of all is that even if people do figure out there is something wrong with us they don't even have a good label to pin on us because nobody throws around the word sadist like they do the other labels. At worst you might get called a jerk or an asshole, but nobody really gets who we are.
>>82549086>And the best part of all is that even if people do figure out there is something wrong with us they don't even have a good label to pin on us because nobody throws around the word sadist like they do the other labels.They just call your type "malignant narcissists" now.
>>82549062The popping of the hymen is a sacred thing that proves she was a virgin.
>>82549138No it doesn't. Do people still believe that stone age shit? Hymens pop all the time just from normal shit like girls' sports.
>>82549126Which is hilarious because if you don't fit the other criteria to get put in that box it confuses them to no end. People always want reasons for where the abuse and the torment and the pain is coming from. They don't like to think that it's happening for no good reason at all or simply for it's entertainment value. In a way I kind of don't get why they think it's not it's own thing. Like people prefer to play violent video-games over gay non-violent ones but nobody ever seems to make that connection that in real life maybe there are people who like inflicting pain and damage on others simply as a means to it's own end. To bring it back to thread relevancy I'll put it like this people with BPD will act sadistically to alleviate their emotional turmoil and may or may not feel bad about it after. But they don't do it for it's own sake they do it in response to some other stimulus.NPD people will act sadistically to assert some ill conceived sense of superiority. Like "ohhh I hurt this person because I'm so superior and above your plebian sense of morality oooh".But a real true sadist will do it simply because it feels good. It feels like destroying an enemy in a video game. It's fun. You don't feel superior to the video game enemy, you don't NEED to destroy the video game enemy to regulate yourself. It's just a pleasant distraction, something to do because it's fun and you can do it when the opportunity presents itself.
>>82549205>if you don't fit the other criteria to get put in that boxYou do, though. You're not as special or unique as you think. Prisons are filled with people like you.
>>82549205>NPD people will act sadistically to assert some ill conceived sense of superiority.No, they'll just do it for fun too. Supply includes sadist reward.
>>82549204>girls sportsYeah no thanks. If she doesn't have hymen, she gets no diamond. It's simple as that. Even if she lost it through horse riding, or getting hit with a soccer ball not through sex I still don't want her.It's existence proves she was a virgin. She lost the proof she belongs in the gutter.
>>82549204>No it doesn't. Do people still believe that stone age shit? Hymens pop all the time just from normal shit like girlsRead your own comment and then read mine again.Me:>A hymen proves she was a virgin.You:>No you can lose hymens not through sex!Me:>A Hymen proves she is a virgin.>Hymen. Proves. Virgin.If you lose the proof through other means, you just don't have proof of your virginity anymore. If you have a hymen, you have proof that you're a virgin.This isn't stone age shit, this is basic logic. Go back to second grade math class you clearly didn't understand it.
>>82549210Prisons are filled with low impulse control morons who take things too far and get caught. There's no law against saying mean things to people if it's not excessive. There's no law against using your position at a job to single one person out and dump as much work on them as you can legally get away with then berate them for not meeting their quota. There's no law against having kinky rough sex with a willing and consenting partner. There's lots of ways to hurt people that doesn't involve illegal overt physical violence.But I think more to the point your statement was more a reflection of your own notion that "bad" people like me will get our comeuppance and get sent to prison to think about our evil ways and receive our just punishment. But take a look around you anon. Your world is ruled by monsters who hurt you and others and never answer for what they do.
>>82549205>Like people prefer to play violent video-games over gay non-violent oneslol like how Tetris sold a quarter billion copies. because of its infamous violence.
>>82549205This chart is so cringe.>If you have a sense of self worth and don't like being shit on by people who hate you then you're a narc
>>82549205>people prefer to play violent video-games over gay non-violent onesThe best selling game of all time is Minecraft.>>82549261>Prisons are filled with low impulse control morons who take things too far and get caught.Yeah, so sadists.
>>82549273Minecraft is violent though you murder zombies, skeletons, and even a dragon
>>82549268Where does the chart say that?
>>82549280Minecraft is only violent if you're 6.
>>82549231Narc supply needs always comes back to needing to fuel their fragile fucking egos. They can't help themselves. I have no doubt on some level they enjoy it for it's own sake. Again to use the video game analogy it can be fun for it's own sake without needing to serve another purpose. But in the case of narcissists it always serves another purpose which is why they will typically try to act sadistically either with an audience or against a partner. Either to prove to the audience or their partner how superior they are. But they will typically not act sadistically to strangers one on one because they can't feed their ego that way. Most narcs in my experience anyway are rather cowardly when they aren't in the limelight getting told how great they are.
>>82549282>arrogant with a sense of self worth"Overt Narc">Sensitive to criticism "Covert Narc"If I don't like being called a nigger then I'm a narc. wow thanks Jews at aplaceofhope
>>82549294>Narc supply needs always comes back to needing to fuel their fragile fucking egos.This is also the case for malignants. Your experience of "fun" and "reward" from causing pain is entirely egosyntonic. This is classic cluster B shit.
>>82549263Good for you buddy you found an example of a non-violent video game that people enjoy. Do you have some sort of all or nothing thinking (perhaps autism lol) that makes it difficult for you to realize that not everything in life is a binary choice? That people can enjoy both violent and non-violent games even if overall there are more violent games than non-violent ones.Here I'll even help you out and list a few other popular non-violent games>The Sims>Animal crossing>Train simulator>Candy Crush
>The Sims>Animal crossing>Train simulator>Candy CrushWoman games for women
>>82549298>arrogant with a sense of self worthWhere does the chart say that?>If I don't like being called a nigger then I'm a narc.You're conflating "criticism" with "insult". Those are two separate words.
>>82549319>Do you have some sort of all or nothing thinkingNo, that's why I don't use absolutists statements like "people like violent video games and not non-violent ones".
>>82549273>Prisons are filled with low impulse control morons who take things too far and get caught.>Yeah, so sadists.It's a mix of people with personality disorders that include a sadistic component and sadists who took things too far, yes. Prisons also have plenty of regular normal people in them who got pushed too far, or got too desperate, or had an exceptionally bad day. Being in prison is not a condemnation of any group. It's just the penalty box you end up in when you break the rules too egregiously.>>82549308Perhaps. But you can train your brain to enjoy (or fear) anything if it's paired with the right reward or punishment often enough. Does someone have a "chocolate addiction personality disorder" if they find the flavor more pleasant than vanilla? Why should I be disturbed over what is essentially a preference if I am acting within the bounds of the law to satisfy that preference?
Say something nice about people with BPD
>>82549368they fuck good.
>>82549338Well geez do forgive me mr language police for not being ultra specific to your autistic need to use only precise scientific phrasing>People as a group have an observed tendency for a preference towards violent video games that does not otherwise diminish their capacity to also enjoy non-violent gamesDoes that help anon? Does that makes sense to your autist brain or do you need to nit pick that over too and continue our little word game?
>>82549368They are easy to hurt and their reactions to being hurt are exquisite.
>>82549381How could you hurt a cute little bpd-angel
>>82549384>angelhave you ever actually interacted with a BPDemon for more than a month?
>>82549376>Well geez do forgive me mr language police for not being ultra specific to your autistic need to use only precise scientific phrasingLook at this nauseatringly petulant sarcasm lmao. Definitely a narcissist.
>>82546433Well. lmao. I know, I know, online personality test, but i only answered negative to two questions and neutral to another two, of 23 questions total. I think it's indicative of something at least.
>>82549387>have you ever actually interacted with a BPDemon for more than a month?I have always wanted a BPD to claw into my flesh and claim me as their FP, but they keep running away
Is BPD sex really as good as I've heard?
I mean, 3 guys is a lot, what did you do to make her cheat on you? Not joking but some guys treat us so shitty we feel like NOT cheating is basically being cucked. Let me guess you withheld sex/affection or gave her the silent treatment a lot
>>82549617it's the closest thing to pure bliss you can possibly experience
>>82549634>3 guys is a lot, what did you do to make her cheat on you?Nothing? She has agency over her body. I can't make her have sex with anyone.
>>82545480>NPD is to be avoided at all costs.BPD people are nearly as bad in relationships.
>>82545554>narcs will either claim to be BPD or some kind of Machiavellian sociopath because admitting they're just mentally stuck in the single digits is literally impossible to themPeople with BPD are stuck at an even lower emotional age than NPDs though.
>>82545566>Not all BPD people refuse to take accountability for anything.The fear of abandonment, unstable self-image, and intense emotional dysregulation that define BPD are the very things that make accountability difficult. For many, deflecting blame is an unconscious defense mechanism to avoid overwhelming feelings of shame, guilt, and the perceived threat of rejection. This makes the behavior highly prevalent in individuals who are not in treatment or who are in the early stages of recovery.
>>82545876>but yeah I know that disqualifies me from having an opinion of course what would an actual person suffering from the illness know about what its like?People with BPD have a stunning lack of self-awareness, and the condition itself is egosyntonic, so it's likely they don't have much of a frame of reference for what it's like to have it.>>82546037This entire post reeks of BPD pity party where they lie by omission to make themselves look like the poor victim in every situation. You all sound exactly the same lmao.
>>82545899>>82545980>I have a fat ass and sex is allegedly good but yeah that's about all I have to offerWhy don't quiet BPD people offer commitment and marriage instead they just have frivolous sex and give up their bodies for nothing and then cry and whine that they end up in a gutter like bitch you did it to yourself
>>82550098>won't answer my questions about how you treated herYup, an abuser. She needed to cheat to feel power.
>>82550218>This entire post reeks of BPD pity party where they lie by omission to make themselves look like the poor victim in every situation. You all sound exactly the same lmao.You're just being uncharitable. What do you wish to know? Do you want me to write out my whole life story? That won't fit in a post. Ask.>>82550432I'm in a relationship and engaged, you can stop making assumptions about me now.
>>82550440>She needed to cheatyou never NEED to cheat you narcissist >to feel powerand you don't NEED to feel power, either
>>82550526>nothing my woman feels mattersWhy she cheatsChrist men are stupid. You reap what you fucking sow.
>>82550537NOBODY needs to feel power, that's not how relationships work
>>82550580Power is short term for self esteem and safetyYou are saying your womans safety doesn't matterNo shit she goes to another man's arms and dick
>>82550584>Power is short term for self esteem and safetyI'm not sure what it is you're trying to express but it seems retarded and I really hope you never actually date a real woman
>>82550616I'm a woman sorry my views upset you but I still have them
>>82550648I don't think you are oppressed or a victim, you are most likely a narcissist or even an outright sociopath preying on the functioning empathy of other people
>>82550691I think you are a gay projector with a small pp and probably so ugly I'd never have to deal with you irl anyways. This is your only interaction with a high tier female like me
>>82550706oh you're just larping as your excarry on then
>>82544997I'm pretty sure people constantly warn others or is this your first time on 4chan? Women cry about domestic abuse so much but good men have been put through hell by women.2 crazy ex gf's surviver pls gib sympathy
>>82545023This honestly same with narcissists
>>82550440>BPDemon defends shitty behavior and tries to turn it around on the victimYou don't even need to date them to get the treatment.
>>82544997Shut the absolute fuck up. You were told. You chose to think with your dick.Every single fucking time>no one told me bpd would be crazy>nothing but posts here saying they are calling them bpdemons plus the general consensus you don't stick your dick in crazy>act like a moron ignoring all these warnings then pretends no one told them.How many fucking times do we need to see this thread frok you morons.
>>82550899I don't know why people feel the need to bitch out about people with bpd. I want to date and be with a person with bpd, I don't care about the warnings, or how evil or narcissistic they are. There's just the one I want though, and they're amazing. And worth waiting for.I might've bitched about it in the past myself, but honestly... I can't regret anything insofar as the waiting now. I don't mind waiting. I'd wait until I'm dead, because it's worth the wait.
>>82550521>I'm in a relationship and engaged, you can stop making assumptions about me now.Wow congratulations I wish i could find a wife
>>82545023I want to fuck Frieren, i need to rape her hag cunny uoooooohg cunny erotic uoooooohg
>>82544997BitchyParanoidDisasterIs not the type of woman you want to donate time or energy to.
>>82550940It's not a donation anony, it's an investment ^_^
Things my ex BPDemon did:>Cheated on me multiple times>Crashed her car while drunk and high>Made a porn video with her mum>Got addicted to butane gas>Stole from fuel stations repeatedly>Started sucking off some guy to fund her butane gas addiction>Started a "business" which was just selling all her old clothes and random shit on Facebook marketplace>Killed her rabbit>Killed her fish>Got new tattoos and piercings every 2 weeks, these were of very poor quality due to her not having much money>Contracted multiple STDs and did nothing about themMost of that was after I left but I got updated by a friend of hers. She gained a shit ton of weight now and she's almost at whale status
>>82550970Honestly. I'm good with it even so. Let me back in. Fuck it. I'd forgive her. It makes for an interesting person. I'm pretty fucked up now myself. But not that bad.
>>82550970>Made a porn video with her mumHot. Any additional details?
>>82550981The only benefit she has is she can't baby trap you. She has PCOS or some shit and surprisingly she does actually take her contraception pills
itt: psychology is a meme that can be interpreted a thousand different ways for the same terms
>>82550992No. The benefit is that she's human and has real lived experience.
>>82550998What are mankind's truths but his irrefutable errors?
>>82550990It was sold to the guy she was sucking off. I don't imagine it was hot at all. Her mum was completely insane, probably not BPD, just a complete retard. She was also ugly as fuck and I can see where my ex is headed in life based off her appearance
>>82551008Less hot. But still that's wild as fuck that people are out their making incest pornos to fuel drug addiction
>>82551008Honestly, if it was like that dynamic I have with my ex, and her mom...I never ever told her this, and never will.But at times I thought about fucking her mom. I thought her mom was cute, but yeah, her mom really was bat-shit schizo fucking nuts. Like actual, schizo nuts. "The smart meters are killing us!" "Align your chakras!" "The 5g is melting our brains!" type nuts.
>>82551023It sounds like you are not all there either, if you are involved with that family and still have desires to return into it.Me personally, if my BPDemon cheated on me, I would want to beat her to death with every fiber of my being, but because I am not an abusive I would just slam the door and never speak to her again.
>>82551018Yeah its nuts. I don't know if this makes it better or worse but my ex was adopted so she didn't even know her birth mum until she was nearing 20. So she'd only known her and met her a few times and she was already smoking crack and doing pork with her. Another thing that relationship taught me is the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and that you should never adopt. Her adopter parents were really nice
>>82551039Well, I'm a little bit weird in the head. But I'm there. Got my bearings.I'm sane when I say I love her. And I wouldn't actually fuck the mom in that scenario... I wouldn't because I'm not in love with her, I'm in love with the bpdemon... Always have been.I'd let her get away with anything. I know she likes watching me suffer, in a weird way...
>>82551039maybe you have bpd too. . .
I dated a BPD woman for 5 years.
>>82550521>Do you want me to write out my whole life story?Nah I've already heard enough flimsy, ever-shifting sob stories from my ex.Why does everyone with BPD need to trauma dump perpetually? Like, within minutes of their appearance they're already whining.
>>82550521>I'm in a relationship and engagedIs your slave settling in well?
>>82551367>my ex hurt me so I'm going to attack anyone who is mentally ill in the same way, regardless of if they lash out or attack anyone or not You're deeply wounded and need to get help, not punch down on the mentally ill.
>>82551367If it's someplace like the letter thread it's appropriate, it's perfectly normal to trauma dump in places where trauma dumping is expected.Otherwise yeah the whole life story thing sucks.
>>82551388Every BPD story is the same. I have very little reason to give you the benefit of the doubt as a cluster B.
>>82551388>I'm good at masking when I'm talking to strangers behind a computer screenlol. what an accomplishment.
>>82551397You're such a raging narcissistic fucker. Not even the person you're replying to btw. Such a moron. You have nothing to go off of but words on a screen and you instantly act like there's not a human being on the other side.
>>82551406>You're such a raging narcissistic fucker.lmao they always do this too. mine would even call her therapist a narcissist, because he criticized her mildly (which is part of therapy).
>>82551420No. You're a narcissistic piece of shit because you don't give value to the person you're speaking with's thoughts. You think everyone with a mental disorder can be distilled to the disorder and they all have universally applied, always-applying traits that never have exceptions. You think you can classify and put everyone into a box. This is not true. This is called black and white thinking, and it's a highlight of autism.
>>82551385It's nothing like you imagine, we have a healthy relationship. I'm spoiled occasionally despite my protests, but not outside of the realm of normality. >>82551397I think people are individuals and you're judging an entire group because you got burned. How am I to believe you're a poor innocent victim if you're trying to cut someone's head off merely by existing for saying they have the condition? I've been nothing but cordial to you and gotten dismissed and judged from the outset.
>>82551451>You're a narcissistic piece of shit because you don't give value to the person you're speaking with's thoughts.Everything someone with a cluster B disorder says should be filtered through the assumption that they're being manipulative. This is true, even if the disordered person doesn't realize they're being manipulative.Also, that's not what narcissism means at all.>>82551455>It's nothing like you imagine, we have a healthy relationshipThere's zero chance I would ever trust you to be honest about this.>I think people are individuals and you're judging an entire group because you got burned. Cluster B disorders are literally defined by chaotic relationships and anti-social behavior. Top experts in the field will actively recommend that you never get close to these people.
>>82551479See picture related. I really really don't feel like giving you the value of my own human explanation because you think apparently im not worthy of your thoughts.
>>82551479>There's zero chance I would ever trust you to be honest about this.What do I stand to gain from lying about myself on an anonymous basket weaving forum. The worst that has ever happened is that I catastrophize and panic (not targeted at him) and he tells me to calm down, we give each other room to breathe for like 10 minutes and everything's fine. I can tell when I'm getting worked up and when I'm splitting and don't lash out at people I love because I love them. It's manageable if both parties work through it instead of demonizing each other, as you're doing with an entire demographic because a woman hurt your feelings.
>>82551500>if it's consistentThat's fair, since I don't apply it consistently. I only apply it to cluster B people.
>>82551514What if the person only applies that to cluster-b people, ignoring their human values and intrinsic worth? Does this look like narcissistic behavior?
>>82551507>What do I stand to gain from lying about myself on an anonymous basket weaving forum.BPD people lie all the time when there's literally nothing to gain from it. I imaigine it's because they aren't even aware that they're lying, since their brain disease will straight up rewrite memories.My ex also tried the "what do I stand to gain" gaslight. Cute try, though.
>>82551526>human values and intrinsic worthNeither of these things mean I have to personally take time out of my day to entertain them,.
>>82551530I know it's hard for you to understand because you're terminally autistic, but it's not a black or white thing. I'm not your ex, I'm a whole other person. Stop projecting your hatred towards her onto me.
>>82551526>using chatgpt to "think" for you.>because it defaults to an affirmation bias lmaoMy ex used Gemini for this, but same shit different day.
>>82551538He tries justifying by saying "Neither of these things mean I have to personally take time out of my day to entertain them,." Is this narcissistic? This applies on an internet message board, and he went out of his way to come to a specialized community for BPD people to point out how, apparently, those with BPD are not worthy of this consideration.
>>82551544>but it's not a black or white thingI didn't say it was. However, it's virtually impossible to tell the 10% of "good" eggs apart from the 90% that are bad eggs, so I just default to bad for the sake of self-preservation.
>>82551565you are mentally ill and mindbroken. please go post somewhere else and leave this topic alone. you are autistic. it's over.
>>82551560>r9k>a specialized community for BPDbehold, the power of BPD mental gymnastics and entitlement.
>>82551582the thread is the specialized communityyour autism is really, really showing.
>>82551591>the thread is the specialized communityLooks like the OP made it to vent about how retarded BPD people are, actually.
>>82551600>/bpd/ generalI'm done with the semantics. Grow up.
>>82551609>/bpd/ generalYeah, so it seems like a bpd general would be a good place for me to laugh at BPD people, assuming it's general purpose.>I'm done with the semantics.Semantics are important when you're using words to convey meaning and concepts.
>>82551609>I'm done with the semantics.You're using the same manipulation tactics my ex used where she would cry semantics so she could dismiss and ignore everything I actually said to her.
It's so uncanny how people with BPD all write with the same tone and cadence. They'll use even the same phrases verbatim, and in the next breath insist that they're all very different from one another.
Hey ****. How you doing? You having fun today retard?
>>82551367Its like when little kids stun their toe and run off to an adult to cry and wail and tell them about how their stubbed toe is the worst thing to happen to anyone ever. Except these people are adults with adult problems who never learned how to self regulate doing the same thing but woth their adult issues.
>Thread about BPD summons actual BPDemonsThey just can't help themselves can they? Even when the threat is about the disorder and people's experiences with it they have to take ot personally as if everything said is directed at them and they need to defend the honor of BPD.
>>82551658did you get lost?
>>82551072do you think a bpd x bpd could make it work
>>82551682What are you talking about? People with BPD are inherently the most important people. You have to consider their feelings ahead of yours, and everyone else's at all times.
I WANT TO KISS A BPD ON THE MOUTH AND HAVE SEXO WITH BPD AND BABIES WITH BPD AND RAISE THEM TO BE NEUROTYPICAL!!!!
>>82551750>AND RAISE THEM TO BE NEUROTYPICAL!!!!You don't want either parent to have BPD then. More and more evidence all the time suggests it has a genetic component.
>>82551738no. what do you think about bipolar x bpd?
>>82551756Too late cause I'm absolutely mental T_T'>>82551764Are you the Bipolar? :3c
>>82551750Lol there are BPDemons posting in this thread and none of them even deemed you worthy of their attention you creepy simp.
>>82551645i have never met a bpd demon myself, but from this thread it is weird how similairly they all act and talk, how they clearly lie reframe circustamnces use ai to form their opinions as correct use trauma as an excuse just to win an argument on the internet, i thought it was trolling honestly at first. You can just leave you know. its pretty easy.
>>82551796Ikr, it's incredibly sad.I've never been able to get the attention of a bpdemon no matter what I do
>>82551778sadly both :(
>>82552020:) That's okay, I understand a lot of times they go together a bit.I would be so scared if you were happy and bubbly and then suddenly became angry and scream at me though ;-;' I would feel like you hate me and want me to die, but I would still love you I think you're valid
>>82552095It will take some time to get used to but im a kind person usually :3
>>82551819>but from this thread it is weird how similairly they all act and talk, how they clearly lie reframe circustamnces use ai to form their opinions as correct use trauma as an excuse just to win an argument on the internetYeah, once you spend enough time around one of them, you can smell the BPD on anyone from a mile away. That's why I value the relationship I had with one, despite the utter psychotic mindfuck it felt like when it was happening.
>>82552150Where in the world are you? :3 are your parents nice?
>:3this face here is also a very strong BPD alert beacon.
>>82552187europe and you america?
>>82552247Yes, America :sBut I would gladly pack up and move there once my grandma passes away; she is quite old and I am here to take care of her for now.
>>82544997>into a demonic rage where her eyes roll into the back of her head and she starts hitting herself.omg me
>>82552271lmao youre funny
>BPD "accountability"
its possible to have bpd and learn to ease it or hide from people when it cant be helped. also im very self aware.you just enter relationships with people who dont value you enough to not make their sperging your problem, its not about bpd
>also im very self aware.every person with BPD says this, btw. don't fall for it.
>>82552393>im very self aware>and i promise i'm in full remission of my impulsive splitting behaviors.this is like some final destination shit. i'm seeing everything happening again in front of me as you type things.
>>82552396i mean i can explain my entire thought pattern which means high self awareness.i can understand all of it but my judgement in the moment can be very unstable, so i defer judging until i feel aligned to my baseline.there are ways to adapt and some of us want to adapt, like bpd doesnt mean evil demon creature
>>82552424>i can explain my entire thought pattern which means high self awareness.Why would I ever trust you to tell the truth about this? Or even understand the truth you are telling?BPD people will say ANYTHING to absolve themselves of responsibility for who they are.
>>82552321I've been known to sling a joke or two, but I'm not pulling you around.I stand on business when it comes to love ;3
>>82552421>>and i promise i'm in full remission of my impulsive splitting behaviors.thats the thing im not in "remission". i could go unstable again i just learned to handle it so that its not a problem for others
>>82552433>i just learned to handle it so that its not a problem for otherslol. sure you did, little guy.
>>82552424yes people with bpd are just normal people that can be nice to others
>>82552430>Why would I ever trust you to tell the truth about this?practically cos its too complicated to be false? there is even a certain manipulation tactic rooted in complexity. >Or even understand the truth you are telling?i mean if i imagine we are in a relationship id try my best to make it understandable>to absolve themselves of responsibility for who they are.what exactly in bpd makes them ontologically evil in ur head? why cant i genuinely want to not be asshole to people lol>>82552440>lol. sure you did, little guyit takes a lot of efforts to keep track of this baseline but yes i think i do manage. i dont have much conflict with people
>>82552453yes this :3u guys just need someone who'll value u enough to not dump this shit on u
>>82545480PDs are a venn diagram, not a spectrum. People with clinical PDs have BPD, NPD, and HPD traits. It's just what portion of the venn diagram are they in today. All borderlines are also narcissists.
>>82552500Oh do you have someone like that already?
>>82552500you seem like youre looking for vulnerable unstable person :(
>>82552471>practically cos its too complicated to be false?I'm not seeing the connection here. Can something complex not be false? What point did you think you were making?>i mean if i imagine we are in a relationship id try my best to make it understandableBPD people have notoriously weak communication skills, so this doesn't offer much reassurance.
>>82552527i feel like bpd people need really stable people who are strong enough to withstand their storm
>>82552537You basically need to be a saint, with a heart of gold and a mind of iron. Most people will simply not have the patience for their shit.
>>82552537I understand but its not like I would abuse a person just because of bpd.
>>82552517unfortunately nope>>82552527what makes it seem that way? im looking for anyone who would like me>>82552530>Can something complex not be false?complex things seem more true to our brains because they are harder to fabricate. they can still be false ofc, its just that its less likely and our brains unconsciously notice that>BPD people have notoriously weak communication skillssadly true, i do kinda struggle. its hard to judge how much cos of instability.meta-thinking and relying on past self helps a lot, guess i would advise it to other bpd peoples>need really stable people who are strong enough to withstand their stormnot really, i do like other bpds as i can sympathize to whats happening to them.oh and there is no "storm" to see if one manages to stifle it
>>82552586I guess kinda once you "stifle" it you just kinda realize "oh, this is how things are. how they always are..."lol
>>82552568That's the thing, though. Every person with BPD says this. Someone with BPD would NEVER sit here and openly admit that they are an abusive person. There's no capacity for that level of self-reflection in their brains without undergoing years of DBT.
>>82552547>Saint>Heart of Gold>Mind of IronLiterally me, where is my bpd wife>>82552568Yeah I get it, it's not like it's your fault it's just sometimes the emotions are like WAAAAAAAAAAH and you're like REEEEEEEEEE even though you didn't mean to be.The only unforgiveable is cheating, and still then I wouldn't divorce, but I wouldn't give kiss anymore and I would get a second wife to ensure my children are my own.
>>82552604>The only unforgiveable is cheatingWhat about when they falsely accuse you of rape or beating them?
>>82552600I am a person with bpd and i am an abusive person though and i can admit that.i did go thru years of theraphy though, professional some, also the self-oriented stuffit sucks having to go and unload to someone and face them and be like, yeah i did abuse this person, and it's so hard to tell you, and the therapist never really looks at you the same way, and you know they think you're a fucking horrible person, but all i did was fulfill my role, my job to be transparent with you and you hate me, and now i'm the bitch because i'm the one who feels bad about my own feeling bad, wheni should be feelling bad about the person i abused, ecause im a fucking abuser and im sick
>>82552600But it doesnt automatically make you a bad person that is abusive. >>82552604yes cheating is bad
>>82552599there is no realization moment after which u are fixed forever, instability comes and goes, probably until you die.overcoming it in the moment can be very unsatisfying and painful, because it is literally just admitting you cant judge things right now, that you are fucked up like that. letting yourself keep the fear that maybe you are abused and you arent taking action right now>>82552600i think i was abusive but its hard to tell. i just try to ensure im not abusive ever again
>>82544997Hitler had the right idea but the wrong target.Ppl with BPD need to be rounded up and exterminated. BPD is caused by both environmental and genetic factors. Ok so when they have kids, they'll undoubtedly pass the genes on. As long as they can reproduce BPD continues to exist. And environmental factors? BPD people do so much dmg to ppl around them that the people close to them end up mentally stunted. They unironically create the environment that causes BPD in the first place. It's like they're walking carriers for a deadly virus.You can't come up with a good argument that says otherwise
>>82552610False witness is just as bad as murder, it is a very bad sin that is hated.I guess I would go to jail for awhile and then come back and forgive her if she was repentant. I think someone would only do that if you were doing wrong though in the first place.Like if she start to hit herself you grab her hands and make her stop, since you're big strong moid and then when she calms down she will be sorry cause it was just a meltie x3
>>82552624I think BPD people are likely to abuse themselves and that will bleed into their relationship with spouse and children so they need constant therapy and a strong rock
>>82552674Thats just bad everyone deserves to live>>82552693yes it can bleed in but you just have to control it. Im good at controlling:)
>>82552618>and the therapist never really looks at you the same way, and you know they think you're a fucking horrible personI can promise you that a therapist is the least likely person on earth to be thinking this way about a mentally ill person.
>>82552674sieg heil>do so much dmg to ppl around them that the people close to them end up mentally stuntedi mean i definitely didnt do that>unironically create the environment that causes BPD in the first placeu are already contaminated due to reading this, tough luck kiddo, ur next to gas chambers after me
>>82552723you're right im probably just overthinking it
>>82552709>Im good at controlling:)How often do you have manic or depresso episode?Did you ever hurt yourself?
>>82552653>overcoming it in the moment can be very unsatisfying and painful, because it is literally just admitting you cant judge things right now, that you are fucked up like that.If my ex was able to do this, even a little bit, I think it could have saved the relationship. It's hard to put into words how painful it was dating someone who couldn't extend the slightest bit of compassion to me when she was angry. The way she behaved was not a normal way to treat someone who loves you, but the sting pierces deep when she 1) changes the narrative of what happened and just goes with that from now on, no matter what happened to yo. 2) would not show me any affection whatsoever during a split. i begged her in tears to meet me where i was at, and she scoffed and told me she wished i was dead.
>>82552755Its been a while sinds I was depressed im happy.Last time I hurt was 1-2 weeks ago but I almost never do it before that it was 3+ years
>>82552709Yeah, and ppl with BPD sabotage lives of ppl who don't deserve it. Does everyone deserve to suffer?
>>82552760it burns. it sears reading this. it hurts. it hurts so much.
>>82552778>Last time I hurt was 1-2 weeks ago;-; baboo ;-;How come you did this ;-;
>>82552783That one girl hurts your feelings dowsing mean everyone with bpd sabotages lives. Some people deserve suffering but only based on actions like being a pedo or hurting the weak ect
i hate to say it but sometimes i feel like she would be justified in having me die.
>>82552709>Thats just bad everyone deserves to liveOkay, so here's your job from now on. If you "fall in love" with someone, and start love bombing them, you need to:1) Immediately inform your partner that you've been manipulative.and2) Immediately terminate the relationship.It doesn't matter how much you convince yourself you love them. It's over the moment you engage in a manipulative behavior. Maybe you'll have better luck with the next person.
>>82552760thats fucked, sorry anonie>If my ex was able to do this, even a little bit, I think it could have saved the relationshipi think everyone is able, if they want to. if something external seems bigger than their own safety, if that makes sense. your relationship wasnt that for her, it happens. i hope you can move on.>i begged her in tears to meet me where i was at, and she scoffed and told me she wished i was deadthat is insanely harsh, i hope you can see where the fault lies with lucidity and dont blame yourself
>>82552824No why would I tell that if I havent done anything wrong yet? Why do I have to convince myself it the feelings can be real?
>>82552796Really? It doesn't hurt me anymore and it only happened half year ago. In fact I feel strengthened and invigorated by the experience. Nothing shines a light on your own trauma that you need to work on than being in a relationship with a cluster B.It also helped me understand that the reason I'm vulnerable to dynamics like this is because I have quite a high level of empathy, and compassion for others. To the point where I will betray myself to try and make someone else suffer less. This put a big wrench in the cries of my parents constantly accused me of being a selfish monster, during times where they only cared about themselves.
>>82552804I was hurting for a bit but its over. I will never cut
>>82552783Are u god? Who gave you the authority to determine who deserves to live and who doesn't?
>>82552869Shame, you should cut
>>82552869>I will never cutMwah. Good. I don't want to see you bleed like that ;-;Did you do that 2 weeks ago, and 3 years ago?
>>82552877Noooo shut up, you evil bad voice go be mean to someone else
>>82552877I know you hate people with bpd but why do you want me to cut its not like you will feel/ see it?
>>82552904I would love to see it, you should cut and post online. BPD people should bleed for all they've done
>>82552826>that is insanely harshI definitely didn't expect the person who I thought was the love of my life say crueler things to me than the worst bullies i've ever had. it's simply the most hate a person has ever felt for me, and that's not an exaggeration.the previous day she was gushing over the wedding we were planning, and saying she wants to carry my babies.>i hope you can see where the fault lies with lucidity and dont blame yourselfI definitely don't blame myself anymore, but during the relationship shit got confusing sometimes. All the getting back together after that was ultimately a waste of time, because subconsciously she knows it can't ever be the same again, but she doesn't fully process it, so she projects that feeling of shame onto me as more abuse and anger. It's just an endless feedback loop that was never going to stop until I made the hard decision to get the fuck out.
>>82552912I wont curse but you are mean. You think everyone with bpd is crazy but then you act like that hypocrite. And no I wont post it because im not going to do it
>>82552950Don't ever do it >:(I kiss away all your past pain and forbid you to cut ever
>>82552950You trigger my sadistic side because you deserve it. You know you've done plenty bad, no BPD goes long enough without doing some inhumane shit. Do you really think you shouldn't pay for it? Not even cutting to punish yourself? What a fucking coward
>>82552912I have a friend who says that BPD people deserve BPD for the things they do to other people.It honestly seems like a fair trade off to me. They live in an eternal hell of their own making, and in return they get to waste a year or two of some sperg's time before crushing their heart, and teaching them an important lesson.
>>82552996>What a fucking cowardBPD are the most cowardly of the cluster Bs, but I don't think the answer is to inflict pain on them. in fact, that is known specifically to not help.
>>82552996wow im not a bad person okay I have been nice to people and done some good thinks like volunteering :) if I cut it will have nothing to do with you or bpd okay
>>82552876Meant to reply to you>>82552813>>82552845>No why would I tell that if I havent done anything wrong yet?It's the BPD catchphrase kek. Sometimes I wonder if you mongs actually believe this, but then I remember that you're soulless, and you latch onto any belief that makes you the victim
>>82553027remember that everyone has done bad things. you're allowed to love yourself even if you take ownership of bad behavior. no one in your life who cares about you enough to stick around to where you are now will get rid of you for doing it.
>>82552997They don't go through enough, BPD also has things some people would see as benefits even if temporarily>>82553018Who says I want to "help" them? I think they should suffer, it's karmic>>82553027I bet you haven't gone back and apologized to the people you wronged, you think volunteering is enough? Good people volunteer just to do good, not to make up for some shit. The person you hurt was still hurt. I have a feeling you're considering it after that reply and it's because you know what I'm saying is true, the fact that you suffered nothing from it while you hurt others is inherently a injustice. You definitely should cut
>>82553055>Sometimes I wonder if you mongs actually believe thisThey absolutely do. The shame feedback loop lets them convince themselves of literally anything.
>>82552996>noo you borderlines are ebil>now suffer and die you evil bitchCrazy how sociopaths and narcs all come out of the woodwork when easily victimizable people are around
>>82553069>I think they should suffer, it's karmicbut this will only make them more traumatized and more abusive to others. so who are you really punishing, and to what end?
You are falling into trick even listening to NPD evil promoters of self harm.Look me in my eyes I will not cutCutting is not okayMy body belongs to God and my person and I will not harm itYour past crimes all forgiven, but won't do anymore okay I love you
>>82553055Yes I believe it im not delusional and I have a soul and feel empathie just like others.>>82553069I have wronged people but they have also wronged me we both learn from the situation. I dont understand how me going to cut will do anything. You are being evil to me and no Im NOT playing victim
>>82553069>I bet you haven't gone back and apologized to the people you wrongedI'm trying to imagine my lunatic ex skirting with along the edge of her brain, and then slapping herself in the face to make her stop thinking about it. It was supposed to be a funny mental image, but now that I've articulated it, it just seems sad.
Mlem I'm never gonna cut againBleeding thighs ain't got no gloryMy owner doesn't like it when I'm in painSo I'm not gonna cut tonight nooooI deserve life and to feel love it's trueCutting my self has got no meaningI really want to be a friendTo my perfect body~~~
>>82553110>but they have also wronged meConsider that they may have not. BPD has a way of convincing you that there is always a hero and a villain, when those dynamics don't really exist within the complexities of human nature.
>>82553110Did you forgive the person who harm you yet or do you still carry that weight?
>>82553124Yes in most situations I have been in we were equally wrong but in some I was wronged and vice versa
>>82553078Did I say anything about dying? A good portion of them cut already, mostly for attention. Why not allow and encourage them to rightfully punish themselves?>>82553089Them. What makes you think they will "heal" if we just do nothing about it? Just look at what they're saying >>82553110 the classic "they did something wrong too!">>82553110You're retroactively victim-blaming, don't you have any shame? It's common for BPD people to justify their evil actions by exploding something the other person did out of proportion, inflicting massive damage. Again, what is cutting compared to that? Compared to months of suffering you possibly inflicted? Possibly even trauma depending on what we're talking about. Of course a coward like you wouldn't want to pay, even if slightly by cutting yourself, you're sickening
>>82553142You are a sociopath, you deserve to be in jail.People like you should not be allowed near my person. You hunt for weak, squishies who are already scared and sad and then you trigger and do evil.Go find God and stop being a nigger
>>82553142>What makes you think they will "heal" if we just do nothing about it?I'm not suggesting that doing nothing will heal them. I'm suggesting that inflicting pain will make things worse for both them, AND their innocent victims.Doing nothing will simply stop it from worsening past the trauma that already exists in the world.
>>82553142I dont have victims and are you saying I should cut and even that is not enough because my nonexistent victims feel more pain?
>>82553138I have forgiven them and mostly myself because thinking about them wont change anything they are al out of my life
>>82553151>You hunt for weak, squishies who are already scared and sad and then you trigger and do evil.BPD does this too. You'll find that women with BPD especially will always target a very specific brand of men, who are themselves broken in their own ways and frequently have low self-worth. They tend to latch onto people who would be better fit to parent them, than to partner them. Because being parented is what they truly crave, and not being in an equally reciprocal relationship.
>>82553153>if we just do nothing about itLook how the sociopath tries to weasel his way into the relationship as if THEY MATTER AT ALLSociopath is NOTHINGHe is not "We" He has no place in the relationship.He is a RAT.Don't listen to a word of his filthy disgusting satanist message. He wants death because he hates self and so he pushes it onto the weak.Self-harm enthusiasts preying on the weak how disgusting, you will be punished greatly for your crimes. You must repent.If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. Mean posters post because they can't stand not getting a (You) even if that (You) is the last (You) that ever comes before the other poster dies the mean poster doesn't care. Have fun burning in hell mean posters. You are fundamentally Evil, way worse than BPD, way worse than Bipolar, Way worse than any soft and weak, you are criminal evil and you will suffer.
>>82553195That is a fallacy called whataboutism.YOU FUCKING SNAKE.I understand BPD have problems, I understand there are many cases of abuse, there are many cases of not-abuse too and you pushing self harm. HAHA you are EVIL. REPENT FIEND. REPENT YOU WICKED ONE>
>>82553195Most of the BPDs I've known would get with sociopaths because they had a self destructive urge to get chewed up and spit out. I've never actually known a BPD who would get with someone weak and squishy.
>>82553203Yes, okay BPD-man. The guy who was mean to you on the internet board is literally A DISGUSTING EVIL SATANIST. Truly showing your BPD "empathy" and "ability to see grey area" with that one lol
>>82553215That's a thing that happens too. BPS are naturally drawn to 3 archetypes of men. Nerds, Military types (cuz structure), and other cluster Bs.
>>82553223They seem to be drawn to me as well and I'm an unavailable cluster A
>>82553153I disagree, the trauma is there and they will keep abusing people. The very least the should do is pay, everyone pays and they should not be exempted from that>>82553172How do you not have any victims? Notice you didn't even deny the "not apologizing" part because you are incapable of seeing what you've done, instead, you excused it with "they wronged me" which like I said, often is made up. >>82553182 Great so you just discarded them, "they are out of my life", as simple as that. I've seen that so often where the BPD person is just "over" the other one like that, in an instant. Doesn't matter the time that was spent together or the degree of damage, later on it's just "I've moved on". I hope it leaves a scar or many when you do it
>>82553236You probably fit somewhere in the nerd cluster.
>>82553244Maybe, but not really and that doesn't match how I interact with them.
>>82553182I'm glad you have forgiven themIf it was not a good situation I'm glad you've moved on and gotten over it.(>^_^)><(^_^<)Sometimes we need to prune the branches in our lives for our own stability so we can make good fruits.Do not listen to sociopath, if you were not married and they were not your parents then you have no responsibility to keep them in your life forever there is not infinite time for you to live. Keep working on self forgiveness, you're doing your best. Please don't hurt self anymore it is not good at all.
>>82553237>I disagree, the trauma is there and they will keep abusing people.Yes, which is better than if they keep abusing people, but more severely.I keep forgetting that all of you cluster B spastics can't imagine a context that could exist outside of grandiose "alls" or "nothings"
>>82553217The guy telling someone who is vulnerable to cut themselves is literally an evil Satanist yes.You clearly are not a good person. It's not that complicated. Repent.
>>82553237I dont have victims because im not a monster. I havent apologized this time because I did that every time but then I stoped because they where toxic and having a negative affect on me. There is nothing wrong with dropping someone even if you knew them for 6+ years. Your making me sad but im not going to do it :)
>>82553268They wouldn't be with you if they didn't feel like you were easy to control on some level. It's either that, or they are *very* far along in treatment.
>>82553217You are sick in the head. Get some help you can't do it alone.
>>82553292>nothing wrong with dropping toxic even if been around a long timeSo true and valid! (>^_^)><(^_^<)
>>82553273thank you for being kind :3Im going to do my best in not hurting myself
>>82553237>I've seen that so often where the BPD person is just "over" the other one like that, in an instant.The reason they chain relationships like this is specifically so they can mask the pain of self-reflection with dopamine induced "fuck me" butterflies all over again. The whole cycle happens in defense of the ego.They're completely incapable of forming normal long term attachments, however, because when the honeymoon phase ends, they lose the high that they depend on to regulate their shame and emotions. Clock is ticking at that point. They will always discard you though. The pattern is about as close to deterministic as human behavior gets though, and will happen as surely as the dawn brings light.
>bpd people are literally satan and need to be FUCKING killed!!bpd or not, the biggest problem in relationships is non-equal care.like probably with that bpd girl that tormented u.she gave u love at her unstable peaks and u adjusted onto that, while ignoring the other side.ofcourse she shouldve been more self aware and transparent. some bpd are that way. some are not.sorry for your failed relationship but its not a good reason to hurt others
>>82553237>The very least the should do is pay, everyone pays and they should not be exempted from thatVengeance is for God.He knows their heart and their crimes. It is not for you to punish them. It is not for themselves to punish them.It is for us all to repent of our evil and do it no more.You act as if the BPD has a fairytale happy go lucky life meanwhile they're sobbing alone in a bathroom with a razor because they feel they're incapable of being loved by anyone or being able to reciprocate and then you glorify that harm?It is not your place.BPD deserves love just like anyone. Everyone is somebody's everything, nobody is nothing.
>>82553294Most of them were untreated and extremely ill. In and out of the hospital for self harm. I think the main draw is that I just don't care about much. They can rant and rave and I treat it the same as any other conversation. They can mutilate themselves and I just tell them to clean it up and call their shrink. I'm just a void they can pour emotion into and get nothing back out of except a single, unchanging presence.
>>82553353The sadist isn't the same person as the one with the BPD ex.
>>82553354BPD is nothing, is literally not a thing. Stop believing you're speshul, go outside and do things.
>>82553342You are not God and neither are they.This is why I say you are a Satanist.Their body doesn't belong to them they don't get to choose their punishment for its not their place.You give no place for forgiveness and push for pain. Fuck you and your sharing this image. You will pay for this. Know my Father is watching you.
>>82553360ye ik, but like why else such hate? i imagine he also had an experience like this
>>82553356were they drug addicts? that's a really common bpd thing. physical abuse and smear campaigns really common with them too, so it's often not just a matter of loud words. they're capable of destroying your life.
>>82553360This the sadistic twat who is promoting self harm and posting gore and saying to go kill self is the wicked one.Bpd is soft and scared like a beaten feral cat. They are not wicked even if they inflict harm they should be forgiven. Not the wicked sadist who is unrepentant and proud of his evil.
>>82553373>Bpd is soft and scared like a beaten feral cat. They are not wicked even if they inflict harm they should be forgiven.this has to be a troll.i say that, but then i remember how insane bpd actually is. and then i don't know anymore.
>>82553342You are a cruel person why not put some spoiler on that. I dont deserve that no one does.
>>82553370Do you not read the thread? There is someone who is crying about how they committed self harm 2 weeks ago and the sadist says good do it again you are evil because of being BPD.That is wicked behavior. That man is acting the voice of the devil.That man will be punished.Have forgiveness and open heart for those in pain. For those spreading pain go fuck yourself. There is no room for that evil behavior in my life.
>>82553370>but like why else such hate?because he's a narcissistic sadist. inflicting pain is what they do.
>>82553384Why would you not forgive someone who has harmed you if they apologize and are sorry? You want them to feel worse and hurt themselves and pay and pay and pay?Forgiveness is free. Give it a try sometime bub.Vengeance is an never ending cycle straight to hell.
>>82553391>Do you not read the thread? i did. i believe everything has certain causality and noone is evil because they are evil. im merely trying to reach the cause
>>82553412>Why would you not forgive someone who has harmed you if they apologize and are sorry?Because I don't owe you that. It's my choice to forgive, or to not forgive.You are still responsible for your behavior, even if you apologize.
>>82553372No unless you count weed, alcohol, and the occasional benzo. None of them were regularly on anything stronger than weed though. I'm selective, I don't want too much stupid shit to deal with.
For the cute European BPDEmail me at areyoumyperson@proton.me if you want to talk private we can share more there discord or whatever. Don't relapse from this sociopath he is making me sick.You don't deserve to be told those things, not be Him and not by yourself.
>>82553414He is not evil fundamentally. But his words are evil. If he repented, deleted the self harm pictures, stopped telling someone I love to cut themselves then I would forgive him to. But right now he's the voice of the devil. I don't care about your causality gnostic bullshit. There is a spirit of good and a spirit of evil and he is wearing the spirit of evil.
>>82553350You're on point, they're big at monkey branching because of that>>82553354>>82553365Nah vengeance is necessary NOW. If your all-loving god was here he would not be allowing this in the first place>>82553387Why spoiler it? Bothers you to see someone in physical pain? Think of how much pain the BPD one inflicted on others, on someone they were with for six fuckin years. How come that does not bother you in equal measure?Is their emotional pain that much less important that you're willing to accept whatever nonsense excuse this woman is saying? Even in the apology they find a way of shift-blame. All I'll say is that when you do cut, make it a thread. You deserve that pain
>>82553444he was crazy I dont feel so well it feels weird to breath
>>82544997BPD types are super self destructive, so if you're around them you're bound to get caught up in their destruction. They will, and I mean WILL do everything in their power to hurt you and force you to break up with them. They do this because they believe you're going to break up with them. So they take control and act in a way that makes you break up with them. Then when you try to break up with them, they'll guilt trip you into staying by saying things like "I need you, I'll kill myself if you leave!" etc. Then the cycle will repeat and get worse. They'll act in more extreme ways to push you away, then their apologies and guilt trips will get more extreme. Dating someone who's BPD is an extremely bad idea, just because of how manipulative they are. I don't think they're bad people or anything like that, but they are ticking time bombs.
>>82553476I know baboo it is not good for your mental to be around that sort of thing. I saw the direction it was going but it's so easy to bad spiral rather than good spiral.Stay strong. You are loved. And deserve happiness not pain. (>T_T)><(T_T<)
>>82553456i like discussing things even with evil people, whats wrong with that? thats why we are on 4chan at all, no? for free speech and stuff>I don't care about your bullshitthats alright, you dont have tobeing open to all ideas is what helped me be more stable as bpd and to do no harm except to myself
>>82553418>You are still responsible for your behavior,So true. Which is why you will be responsible for what you've done here.You are responsible for driving people to their deaths. Your Sadism, is disgusting.You should be locked up in prison.>>82553528>i like discussing things even with evil people, whats wrong with that?Make no mistake, bad company ruins good manners.When you surround yourself with sociopaths you become a sociopath.If you don't recognize that there is Evil, Then you don't know that there is Good.And you are sure to fall into the pit, where the Evil one is dragging you down so he can sit atop your corpse and laugh.
>>82553474Yes it bothers me. Im not the girl that hurt you so I dont understand the pain. Its not like they where good people they use others and are mean. Its not like me cutting will help you. Youre worse then every bpd/ bipolar stereotype >>82553524Yes bad spiraling comes easy
>>82553528>being open to all ideasShould you be open to the idea of murdering precious little babies?Should we take Toddlers and smash their heads against rocks?How about kittens and puppies and bunny rabbits? Should we stomp on them?NO, we should not be open to all ideas. Some ideas are pure evil, pure wicked, purely Evil.These things are having a Proud Demeanor, Lying, Bearing false witness, Murder, Scheming wicked plans, Running after evil, sowing strife. These are wicked, and we should only be open to them as a way to reveal that they exist and to run away when we see them.Never should we just gobble these up like it's a good thing to do.
>>82553476You shouldn't feel well, it's only fair you feel a fraction of what you cause. What are you going to do, add the guy and then after the honeymoon phase monkey branch to the next? Go buy into his fake positivity you dumb cunt, or should I say "baboo" hahahaha holy shit
>>82553601>>82553563i shouldve used a different word..im not open to changing myself and copying these ideas, but to discussion.to understand the root of these things. they are obviously evil, but discussion about reasons is still worth and could even help reduce them. im not religious btw sorry
>>82553588Nice dubs!>Youre worse then every bpd/ bipolar stereotypeThat person is quite literally promoting the most wicked things. the pain he promotes into the world, that blood is on his hands. I hope that he will quit, it's not fair that he causes you and others to spiral into bad. Going into a place where he knows people will be vulnerable and promoting that shit. blatant evil.(>^_^)><(^_^<) You will be okay as long as you notice when the Evil does that and RUN AWAY don't fall into his traps. Your own mental is important. I don't want you to hurt. You don't deserve to be in pain.
>>82553292>There is nothing wrong with dropping someone even if you knew them for 6+ years.Anon, it's generally considered cruel to string someone along for exceeding lengths of time. Especially if that person puts in the kind of emotional labor necessary to stay with someone who has BPD for that long without fleeing in abject misery.
>>82544997First of all, BPD is natural defense mechanism of female organism against lack of motherhood. You fix BPD by impregnating women with one. Pregnancy stabilizes her hormones and thoughts.Secondly, until they become mothers, you keep them on short leash. They are to move only in your company, and if you go out to work or something, you lock them inside. It's for their own good and it prevents them from fucking up relationship. If she has demonic phase, you tie her up and wait it out, feeding her a little bit of chocolates to stabilize sugar levels in bloodstream.It requires some work but it's possible.t. father of three in stable, good relationship with Beautiful Princess Disorder, for 11 years and counting
>>82553609And what about you ? Your acting like im a monster because of bpd but you probably have dont way worse. And its not like I can even curse you out because then a stupid person like you would say its because of bpd
>>82553656>You fix BPD by impregnating women with one. Pregnancy stabilizes her hormones and thoughts.This is completely made up, btw. Do not listen to this advice. I repeatDO NOT HAVE CHILDREN WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS BPD.
>>82553644I understand that but it wasnt like I dropped them in one day. We had lots of word fights. And staying would be a but more cruel
>>82553656Retarded, I know multiple BPD women in real life that had children, guess what? The kid has a hellish life. And those are in the rare cases where the dad isn't crazier than her and the kid gets taken away
>>82553679>bla bla bla im such a big victimI'm never going to give you the benefit of the doubt on this, just so you know.
>>82553642I am not religious either, I am here on r9k, I am a sinner, but I do my best to be Good and that means to obey God's law.Jesus was a real person, He was born of a Virgin, he did many miracles, and he continues to do them to this day. His true name is Yahshua, it means Salvation. He came into this world and lived a perfect life, never once sinned, always did good, and was killed for it by people like that sadist; but also by people like you and me who did evil and committed bad actions and choose the world. He offers eternal life to all who put their faith in Him, you don't have to suffer, he has taken that suffering.I am not religious, but I am a man of great faith. Email me, even if I am not perfect for you, even if I am not your person, I am glad to talk and be a rock. You don't have to be in pain.As for being Open to him.You are choosing to open yourself up to those demons who convince you to cut yourself.You are choosing to look at the Evil one rather than the Good one. I ask you to turn away from the evil, it's hurting you, and it's hurting me, and it's hurting Him.I really do love you and want the best for you.
>>82553689I never was a victim we were both wrong and it didnt work. wow do you see im taking ACCOUNTABILITY
>>82553662>but you probably have done way worse.He has done way worse in this thread.He promoted suicide, he wants people to cut, He shared Gore in attempts to hurt you, when you didn't do anything to him at all.
>>82553711>we were both wrong and it didnt workAre those the exact words they used?
>>82553338(>^_^)><(^_^<)It is because bad posts get more attention than good posts like this.Evil spreads much faster than Good Spreads.It is not easy to be Good.
>>82553737ew whats this faggy turbie larp
>>82553711>I never was a victim we were both wrong and it didnt work.Everyone understands this and has friends that are no longer friends anymore. It's okay. Sometimes we grow out of relationships, sometimes things aren't the same, sometimes there is fighting and violence.
>>82553697that.. sounds very religious. when i say im not i mean that all of that looks empty to me. also im not the anon you liked sorry>>82552393am this poster
>>82553754you keep her name out of your fingers unless you are praising her smile
>>82553735I know saying this will make me seem bad, but I dont know. I said this after they called me stupid, childish, and insecure. They wanted to talk to me after they said that, and I said no, because how can you be with someone who thinks of you in that way? Last time I spoke to them
>>82553787lmao turbie is a man you homo gaylord
You can heal from BPD but it's hard work. Without an intelligent and committed partner or therapist who is available by phone I don't know if I could have done it. The medical industry is set up to fail is with biweekly appointments and lack of observation. I needed someone breaking through to me and pointing out delusions in real time to really get it. Once I realized I was the problem the improvements came very quickly.
>>82553810>how can you be with someone who thinks of you in that wayBecause you love them for reasons other than those traits?
>>82553682You realize this chemistry in brain doesn't last forever? That's why you have to knock her up regularly. I already have 3 kids with her and if I want her to remain relatively stable, I'll have to knock her up again within 1-2 years.She's doing fine as mom, but it's also partially because whenever she has demonic phase, I lock her up and take over. After giving birth she's quite stable for around 1-2 years and after that symptoms slowly start to appear again. I still have scar on my arm after her knife attack before I knocked her up second time. When I notice she starts to cause trouble and I have to lock her up, I know it's time for another kid. During pregnancy you still have to lock her in early stages, but as pregnancy gets into mid stage she calms down and becomes stable for around 2 years. During that time she's real sweetheart.Anyway, after her second pregnancy I learned routine and now it's quite easy to keep her in check and have happy life. Our oldest already understands mom sometimes needs to have alone time to calm down and we have good time making her meals when she's locked in safe room. He seems fine so far. His sister seems fine as well, though I have no clue at what age you can see signs of BPD. And of course no idea about our second daughter since she's only 1,5 yo now.
>>82553817Liar who didn't have BPD at all detected. They don't change. They never admit fault. They never ever think there is anything wrong with them (unless its to excuse them from something).
>>82553830It doesnt matter how much they say that they love me if they also say the opposite other times
>>82553833It doesnt work like that you cant fck the bpd out of someone
>>82553774>im not the anon you liked sorryYou are all the anon I liked, and can always discuss privately. areyoumyperson@proton.meReligion is the going to church the singing the songs that thing, it is largely empty vain tradition, like Easter and Christmas.True Faith is different, it is a relationship with the Creator of all things. Faith is the substance of things we hope for, it is the evidence of things that aren't seen.You have Faith in many things, Like Gravity, like the big bang, like dinosaurs. Like that BPD exists. I have Faith in Yahshua, Christ Jesus of the New Testament which is the most well attested book ever written. For most ancient books there are only a few dozen, if you stacked all the New Testament Manuscripts up it would be over a mile high. To not even take a look, and to claim there is nothing there, is to put your head in the ground and say Black is White, and Up is down. He was and is real. And He loves you, as do I. Halleluyah
>>82553833>I have no clue at what age you can see signs of BPDIt starts after puberty when they start liking boys and dating. Teenage girls themselves are basically as retarded as an adult with BPD, but neurotypical ones will grow out of it by the time they hit their 20s. Meanwhile BPD only gets worse in the 20s.The trauma wound itself happens at 1-2 years old, though, so their childhood may have had signs throughout.
>>82553846>the oppositeWhich mathematician did you consult to determine that the opposite of love was 3 arbitrary qualitative terms that you didn't like?
>>82553845u use bpd as scapegoat generalization. bpd != evil asshole. often they genuinely want to fix themselves and they can succeed at it
>>82553887sorry didnt know I couldnt use opposite anymore. I just think those are mean things to say in combination of wanting thing to be good between us.
>>82553662Curse me out for what? Would be like a sentenced criminal getting up and trying to curse out the judge. Is the idea of paying for your errors really that intolerable to you? Honey it's not enough for you to come here and (barely) say you're sorry, it just isn'tFirst it was "nothing wrong with dropping someone after 6+ years," then it shifted to "but we talked it through," and now you went back again saying you never talked again after he said those things, even though he tried to apologize and have a conversation. Remember how I said that I bet your apology was something like "I'm sorry for [x] but you did [y]" to excuse it? There we have it: >>82553810. You're stupid for not seeing how wrong you are and for hastily dropping someone over (let's be real) facts, you're childish for coping with whatever a simp itt says using emojis and excusing your abhorrent behavior, you're insecure for going back and forth on self-harming every other post. Self-harm is a practical way for you to feel the pain you deserve, a useful tool to punish bitches like you, it's a good thing that it has become common
>>82553860its pointless to argue religion but im bored>Faith in many things, Like Gravity, like the big bang, like dinosaurs. Like that BPD existsfalse equivalence - verifiable things with some degree of trust due to lack of complete knowledge versus full trust with zero knowledge>if you stacked all the New Testament Manuscripts up it would be over a mile highmanipulation via complexity, something i mentioned here >>82552471for all that mile there is still just faith, not a logical structure.>To not even take a lookagain, due to complexity, taking a look would take forever, and if i read the summaries one always has an option to say it wasn't enough. thats how the critical thinking is shut off and manipulation can succeed
>>82544997I had at least two girlfriends I highly suspect were BPD. One was histrionic maybe. Anyways, it was hell, and the cheating and gaslighting, by the end of it I wanted to kill myself both times, got into a severe depression and lost a lot of weight. They're pieces of shit, and should be killed, no exceptions.
I don't understand this thread, do you guys hate or like the bpd people? Why are there people asking for contacts of bpd persons if you know they will hurt you in the end?
>>82553859Of course you can't. BPDemons are promiscious so it's obvious sex alone doesn't fix them. It's pregnancy that does. And it isn't even fix, but temporary solution. As I've said, it lasts for around 2 years. All kinds of mammals go into heat, and some can even develop womb tumors when they don't get pregnant for enough cycles. Humans have less and less kids and we're just another animal, just better at abstract thinking, so it's obvious women also need to get knocked up to remain healthy, be it physically or mentally. Coincidentally, as fertility drops, BPD rises.Consider that before development of contraceptives, women in both hunter-gatherer and agricultural tribes were pregnant most of the time. It's just that with tribal warfare, diseases, accidents etc mortality rates were also higher.Consider story of Rachel Parker Plummer who was abducted by indians. She was like 17 at the time, already had 1 kid and had another growing inside her. She was in slavery for several months, in the meantime indians killed newborn, and when she was bought out by her father who spent lot of time, effort and money to track her down, she got pregnant again after few months and died no too long after giving birth to her third child. That's reality of humans for most of our existence on this planet. Our current way of life, especially when it comes to sedentary lifestyle, lack of control over our own lives due to too much bureaucracy, and reproductive cycle, is disaster.>>82553909This. My wife realizes her weakness so she's always grateful when she calms down after being locked inside. She's fine with me doing it, even when during demonic phase she tries to attack me when I drag her to safe room, hits the door and refuses to eat at first. It's some work but I love her, she's my wife and mother of my children, so I'm fine with doing it for her. We both know it's for her own good.
>>82553999some anons hurted by bpd gfs come to take it out on everyone who has bpd. others see it as an opportunity i guess lol
>>82553999I really like BPDs, I'm not asking for contact from anyone but I think BPDs are always going to be my preferred partner.
>>82553979Curse you out for sending those bloody pics and telling me I should selfharm whilst knowing im on the edge doing it.>>82554011Men also can have bpd
>>82553845>Liar who didn't have BPD at all detected. They don't change. They never admit fault. They never ever think there is anything wrong with themIt's a verifiable fact that people with BPD do get better with time and effort. The idea that BPD is a lifelong, untreatable condition is an outdated and harmful misconception. While recovery is not always linear and may involve periods of recurrence, a good long-term outcome is not only possible but likely with proper, sustained care.
>>82554070I don't care about men. I'm man myself. I'm interested in women. And right now not even all women as I already have one for myself and she's enough for me.
>>82554063Are you a fricking masochist?>>82554047You know what I'll just never completely understand the mindset of anons, the people here are talking about how the devil itself incarnated in the bpd womans body and then some anons are like "bpd ma'am drop discord:
>>82554106oh thought you meant it differently. Wish the best for you and your relationship!
>>82554124>Are you a fricking masochist?I've never had problems with BPD people but maybe I'm better at picking the good ones than other anons
>>82554124its a human female with two holes - literally the most important thing in existence duh
>>82554137Well, don't get me wrong, I simply don't have any experience with BPD men as I only interacted with woman this close to be affected by it. And I think women have higher chance of developing BPD than men in genral, but it's just my assumption based on anecdotal evidence so don't take it as some truth.Still, world doesn't care about men. We're expandable. And there is no way around it as women are weaker and wouldn't be able to wage wars, defend, do heavy labor etc. Problem isn't that we're expandable, but that we don't get respected anymore for our work and sacrifices. Today men are beaten down for anything. I can bet that my treatment of my wife would go against established standards, even though it allows us to live happy lives and she accepts it as she sees it works and it's preferable to alternative where she just collects STDs from jumping cocks and cheating, and cuts herself. But those idealistic retards don't accept that life isn't perfect and their solutions aren't golden cure for everything, not to mention sometimes they do not apply in the first place. We have to make the best of what is given to us by life, sometimes what you're given isn't compatible with their desired, ideal life that they think everyone should have. We're making it work and I think my wife has achieved more and is happier than those who still are single, in therapies, in their mid 30s. One of the best rewards I got was her telling me in the evening in bed that she's thankful for keeping her in check and making her mom after day she had a blast playing with our 2 kids and having family dinner outside. After that we cuddled and fucked like rabbits. Hearing that made all the effort worth it.
>>82554011>That's reality of humans for most of our existence on this planet.Sounds stupid, thank fuck we figured out how to not do that.
>>82554102>It's a verifiable fact that people with BPD do get better with time and effort.a lot of it.which is basically antithetical to BPD itself, which makes you as useless and impulsive as the worst ADHD addled sperg around.
>>82544997I was a retard that never really tried at anything. I thought that if I tried at a relationship it should work out. Maybe if I do everything right she'll love me and I'll be able to love her back and that means I'm not broken. I got rekt. She did everything she could to make sure I'd be isolated after she broke up with me. She did that for a solid year. People tried to tell me that she was actively trying to do that. I couldn't believe them so I blocked it out.Now I'm alone for the most part. It worked. I can't even hold a job anymore. I'm supposed to kill myself over it. But I'll hunt her down and publicly execute her before I do that to myself. In Minecraft, of course.
>>82554328>I thought that if I tried at a relationship it should work out. Maybe if I do everything right she'll love me and I'll be able to love her back and that means I'm not broken. I got rekt.LMAO, that's a noble goal, but it's not gonna work with soomeone with BPD. Their hatred of you increases proportionate to how hard you try for them.
>>82553982>verifiable things with some degree of trust due to lack of complete knowledge versus full trust with zero knowledgeThat is a false equivalency Gravity is a theory, you have no way to verify big bang, you have no way to verify dinosaurs especially "Fossil fuels" which russians do not believe in as their oil fields replenish suggesting they are not fossil based.Just because you are a lying deceitful person does not mean everyone else is, Christ Jesus Never lied he was not a manipulator via complexity. There is actually a LACK of complexity in the manuscripts in that they are all so similar that suggests they are more accurate.You trust plato/aristotle manuscripts which have very few copies and much more manipulation.A summary? If this is the literal Word of God, that The Creator himself wrote with his own hand why would you read a summary rather than reading yourself?You send 8 hours a day reading Mike's Schizophrenic nonsense, but you won't read a few chapters a day of the Word of God until you've completed the Book? Which you can read over and over and get more truth out of since it is deep and filled with complexity. Instead you want to follow after man?That just shows your loyalties are to Mike and not the Father.,
I think BPD people are just like normal people in that they want to feel loved and accepted :)
>>82554555>A summary?Accepting a summary, when community and the Word is right there is like you want to be deceived.Check my trips on the 555, with the 554 btw. Numbers show I'm right
>>82554586If you're 555 then I'm 666, what's it like to be a hairy tick?
>>82554124>the people here are talking about how the devil itself incarnated in the bpd womans body and then some anons are like "bpd ma'am drop discord:You have poor reading comprehensionI am saying the devil himself is incarnate in the men who come here to take out their rage on everyone else who has BPD.The one who is promoting self harm and trying to get the BPD girls to kill themselves.That is the devil.I also want to talk to and marry BPD girls cause I love them! ^_^ Schizo girls are my favorite favorite though, bpd is a little bit scary
>>82544997>>82545015>>82545044We have told you faggots on here a thousand times why bpd/npd retards are awful but you always insist>nah bro I NEED my quirky yandere obsessive anime waifu girl irl teehee!Ok well learn the hard way your fantasy doesn't exist faggot. Now you've learned kid.
>>82554597https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h555/kjv/wlc/0-1/While I am strength, you identify as ashes... enjoy the pits fella, there is still time to repent.https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h666/kjv/wlc/0-1/
>>82554695I never experience this with BPD girls, I always want them to be clingy and love bomb rely on me, but they are always super shy and afraid of me instead
>>82554703It's slipknot you goof
>>82554274Interesting story but maybe one day the world will care about men you, never know
>>82554717You're just ugly man it's not deep. They go for anyone they perceive to have some value (money, looks etc) and pull their shit with whoever enables them that meets their criteria.
Chipping in with my two cents: every day with a bpd girlfriend costs you a week of your lifeNever ever, brosIts just not worth it, keep looking
>>82554555>you have no way to verify big bangThis isn't correct. There's virtually no arguing at this point that the big bang happened. We just don't exactly know why or how. And we don't know what existed before it.
>>82554274>And I think women have higher chance of developing BPD than men in genralIt's actually suspected that men with BPD have a decently high risk of being diagnosed with NPD.The inverse is also true: we think women with NPD are often misdiagnosed with BPD.This bias skews the numbers.
>>82554555>Gravity is a theorygravity is an effect of attraction between bodies that have mass. it is measurable, observable, provable>you have no way to verify big bangyou're right - i myself cant really do that, as i havent researched it. thats why i mention there is a certain degree of trust toward these scientific things, as each individual physically cant know everything>dinosaurs especially "Fossil fuels" which russians do not believe in as their oil fields replenish suggesting they are not fossil basedmaybe? i dont have a strong stance on dinosaurs. i remember jokes about dinosaurs being oil but id guess its probably just earth generating oil somehow>you are a lying deceitful personhuh. wheres that coming from? i like to think im pretty honest>Christ Jesus Never lied he was not a manipulator via complexityeveryone is a manipulator, we manipulate each other unconsciously. manipulation isnt an evil thing, its a social mechanism>LACK of complexity in the manuscripts in that they are all so similar that suggests they are more accuratedifference between a scientific paper, and bible, for instance, is that one bothers itself with experiments and proof for all the points it provides. the other one is entirely just a description>this is the literal Word of God, that The Creator himself wrote with his own hand why would you read a summary rather than reading yourself?because i do not have a reason to believe that to be the case>You send 8 hours a day reading Mike's Schizophrenic nonsensewho the fuck is mike???>it is deep and filled with complexity>There is actually a LACK of complexityinconsistency>That just shows your loyalties are to Mike and not the Fatheri havent pledged my loyalty to anyone??
>>82554791>russians do not believe in as their oil fields replenish suggesting they are not fossil basedWhat the fuck is that lunatic talking about? Their oil fields don't replenish lmao. Oil comes from ancient algae and plankton deposits that were decomposed by heat and pressure. It's not renewable on human timescales.
>>82554555>Gravity is a theoryno, gravity is a fact.the theory of gravity explains how gravity functions and why. but gravity exists, there's no disputing that.
>>82554740>we don't know why>or how>Or when>or what>But it surely happened owo'' Yeah sure thing chud.I don't care about your fairytales
>>82554789BPD is literally just Vulnerable Narcissistic personality disorder. They're the exact same thing and in the same cluster B personality disorders. They just admit to being kinda fucked up and insecure as opposed to the grandiose overly confident acting narcissists that never say they have a problem. I think they just use BPD term as a more victimized description to get women to admit to having a problem. They won't admit to being a villianized narcissist but they will take the bpd and autism labels to feel like a victim of abuse and blame other people. This is why all these cunts every "ex boyfriend was a narcissist" they're just projecting their own bad traits and behaviors 90% of the time and blaming the ex bf for everything.
>>82554555Theory in science / physics is not the same as the basic meaning of theory
>>82554822>mass is attracted to mass because uhmmm it just does okaycool story chudI don't care about your fairytalesYou "intellectuals" are so sad because you reject the spiritual entirely when it's so obvious that it exists.I can dream jump into others heads, I have witnessed Christ Himself and see the holes in his hands, it is obvious there are spirits, it is obvious there is more to existence than this flesh and it is obvious that That Man did not lie. Unlikely your professors who lie every single day and chase after Marx like his dick is the final goal of a hot dog eating contest.There is a spirit, there is an astral, there is beyond the computer. Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter, just like whether or not I believe in Gravity doesn't change the fact that apples fall to the earth.Just like the fact that Jesus Christ was Crucified under Pontius Pilate. Rome admits it, The Jews admit it, The Christians admit, the East admits it, the muslims admit it. It's just you who rejects His gift because you've decided to follow after demons.
>>82554740But I look like this IRL 6'0, 165lbs except with brown eyes, and lots of women like me. Even when I have money BPD women are just scared of me
>>82554863and BPD is a theory like in science or physics. It's all just bullshit.At the end of the day everyone is an individual and deserves kindness, compassion, and respect.That is the Gospel Message.The intellectual elitism message is "I know everything, I am master of the universe, I am GOD". Newflash: You aren't.
>>82554935Act like you dont want them and try thinking like they do that can help with getting one.
>>82554889>proof for gravitystudies, formulas, experiments, everything is entirely measurable and fits well within all the other topics>proof for literally anything supernaturalits just obvious it exists !! and yes my supernatural descriptions are better than 100s of others that dont fit it, how'd u guess??kekeke this is fun thanks anony
>>82554981What is weird is that up until the 1950s everyone in the whole world believed in the supernatural it was just obvious. Even the greatest scientists accept a super natural because even with Big Bang the question of How the fuck does this get here requires a God.Without Father there is nothing, without Jesus you cannot hope to be Good
nooo I must follow after the Rabbi's in Tel Aviv and their gay trans death cult, Nigga DeGrass tyson is the intellectual messiahStar Trek is the future (ignore the communist propaganda and the tiny skirts and sexual innuendos)
>>82555061living and procreating for a self aware being is probably dependant on religion. but nature of religion to me is one of willful delusion. i dont like delusions, even if shedding them makes life look like total garbage.if god could be proven in a way everything physical is then id accept it.but all supernatural is just knowledge gaps being filled arbitrarily>>82554953>"I know everything, I am master of the universe, I am GOD". Newflash: You aren't.id say im just a clump of neurons using muscles to click buttons on my phone. no greater purpose and no "heaven">BPD is a theory like in science or physicsbpd is a collection of shared traits, if u have them - u got bpd. i know i do
>>82555111Kek, star trek is the future with everything automated and solved but we hate AI automating shit!
>>82554953How can it be a theory it exists. You have it or you dont
>>82555061>until the 1950s everyone in the whole world believed in the supernatural it was just obviousThere have always been atheists dipshit
Hey ^o^I'm glad you're still alive.I care about you and will pray with you. Yahshua, Christ Jesus, changed my life - He can help yours too; if you want somone to pray with or to find real help my email is areyoumyperson@proton.me You can also call a local emergency service/crisis hotline if you're in danger. You do not need to stay in pain. You are not alone.
>>82555438Can I send you pictures of my prolapsed butthole?
>>82555438That AI Jesus kinda looks like me
>>82554274anon BPD people are fucked up, but your weird diatribe about women makes you look like an embarrassing whiny loser.
>>82554850>and tend to be quiet by natureOk, cool, so I know this has nothing to do with BPD, given the banshee wails she was making.
>>82554889>>mass is attracted to mass because uhmmm it just does okayI mean, you can drop something on the ground and demonstrate that this is the case, yes. Are you just pretending to be retarded?
>>82554953>and BPD is a theory like in science or physics. It's all just bullshit.Why do people who have no idea what they're talking about say these kinds of blanketed statements so confidently? Do they think that feeling a certain way is the same as evidence that what they believe is correct?
>>82555061>What is weird is that up until the 1950s everyone in the whole world believed in the supernatural it was just obvious.Yeah, that's what happens when national literacy is very low.
>>82555157>even if shedding them makes life look like total garbage.my life got a milion times better when i stopped feraring sky dad. it's funny how militantly adults will gaslight themselves into believing in made up pixie magic bullishit.
>>82555929Mhm, sure, whatever helps you sleep at night
>>82554341Well, I know that now. Didn't know it back then. I barley knew people weren't talking about bipolar disorder when they said BPD. I didn't know people could be that evil.
>>82556077You being whiny and embarrassing doesn't help me sleep at night. It just makes you whiny and embarrassing.
>>82555111>Star Trek is the future (ignore the communist propaganda and the tiny skirts and sexual innuendos)
