>Hair loss and permanent quality reduction>Elastin loss>Stretch marks>WrinklesIt's almost as if every child makes her body more deterrent to possibly having more. It's like the baby is draining the life out of a woman and I can understand why some choose not to have them.
>>82588131Self sacrifice is the ultimate form of love.
>>82588131Babies are parasitic in a lot of ways.
>>82588141Would you sacrifice your self worth because some man forcibly tricked you into letting him cum inside so he could feel good?
But stretch marks are hot and a post-pregnancy belly is more inflatable.
>>82588145Human beings are parasitic. Look at what we've done to our supposed Mother.
>>82588131That's why educated/intelligent/wealthy women have less kids. It doesn't really matter anyways since we'll have artificial wombs in 10-20 years.
>>82588131as a woman with a breeding kink i used to be scared of the effects of pregnancy when i was younger like no my belly will look disgusting, my vagina will never recover, my tits will sag, it can even fuck up your teeth and hair blah blah but i have grown to fetishize the concept of ruining my body to give birth. it's like his cum holds so much power over me that it transforms me completely. it symbolizes the sacrifices i am willing to make for his cum. every time i look at my body i will see his mark on me. our dna will be connected for eternity. and that's fucking hot in a weird way.
>>82588152>forcibly>tricked youKekIf I was a woman I'd cary mace and a taser like most smart women do. My mother sacrificed her body to bring me into the world and she regrets nothing. You are the one with the personal problem. Just say what it really is instead of being an indirect copebaiting bitch ass niggynogger
>>82588131don't care would plap the woman in that pic
>>82588131>pushed a kid out and suffered from none of those things>actually made my figure better after, bigger boobs and butt/hips without a longterm weight differencelmao skill issue
>>82588131>It's like the baby is draining the life out of a woman and I can understand why some choose not to have them.Well she still looks good
As long as she's bearing my children I would never find my wife ugly because of pregnancy. I would love and cherish her for the sacrifices she went through to bring our children into the world.
>>82588178girl i am very pro-breeding but you know as well as everyone else does that this is just cope let's not lie to ourselves
>>82588160>"my belly will look disgusting"It just needs to be be kept full and it will be beautiful.
>>82588131women age like shit anyways so why does it matter? might as well have kids and if you truly love her then none of those things should bother you
>>82588191Not coping or larping, I was just born with all the right genes for making babies. Like, I never even got morning sickness, that's how low the bar was for my pregnancy symptoms/problems.But, to be fair, I know I'm in the small/top minority of women.
>>82588160>our dna will be connected for eternitythis dumb cunt thinks her lineage will survive the heat death of the universe lmfao
>>82588179OP is wrong, it's not entirely due to pregnancy. Once again, genes are everything
>>82588171You think you'll get rid of them with just that? Men are persistent for that cat.
>>82588182That's a nice sentiment and all, but until it actually happens your words hold little weight. I've seen men completely lose all attraction to their wives and even divorce them after giving birth because they no longer saw her as a woman but rather just as a mother, and immediately detach and find other women to have romantic relationships with. For that very reason I think giving men children is just a way to screw over your entire future and prospects and never be loved as a woman again.
>>82588179what's with all the distortions in her skin? it's her body is boiling poop
>>82588240lol idk if you've ever been maced/pepper sprayed but if it hits you directly in the eye you're not gonna be raping/attacking anyone until it flushes out. You're right about tasers tho, they're not gonna stop anyone.
>>82588254this is more tied to women refusing to fuck when they have a crying shit factory tiring them out and the man loses it and starts fucking other women because as a man fucking is required
>>82588196i am aware that some men do find the pregnant belly attractive especially if they have a breeding kink, the problem starts once the baby is out. i was terrified of the post-partum belly. you just have to accept that you will never have your spotless beautiful belly again. but it is the sacrifice worth making to continue your man's bloodline.>>82588231of course they will. stop projecting your mortality onto others.
>>82588254Well those men are scum. I could never imagine doing such a thing. Maybe it's because I am such a loser that I would cherish merely the chance at a wife and kids that I would never do a thing to jeopardize it should I get it.
>>82588272I've been told flat out by more than one man that after seeing his wife give birth he no longer had any sexual response to her ever again.
>>82588295Maybe these men are retarded and also don't own a bulb pump?
crazy how ugly they get after each pregnancy
>>82588240Yeah like the chick said, you're not raping shit with mace in your eyes unless you've built up a tolerance at home in the garage kek
>>82588287>stop projecting your mortality onto others.Are you fucking retarded?
>>82588318are you? s/he's clearly joking and you are taking everything literally retard
>>82588131I already have stretch marks so might as well have a baby so I can pretend they're from the pregnancy and not from me being a fatty. Also having kids is my biggest goal in life, and I've developed a breeding kink, so I wanna experience pregnancy at least once.
>>82588131>i dont want to create life (miracle) because I wanna look pretty forever (impossible) classic woman retardation
>>82588287>"The problem starts once the baby is out"Just inflate your belly with air it's literally so simple.
>>82588312See what happens if you mace me. Me and my boys like to play rough.
>>82588295damn those Mormon men must really suffer
>>82588328Ram it up your box, cunt.
>>82588339Nigger cherry pick like a redditor all you want. If the mace doesn't work a hard kick in the nads will finish the job. You're acting like it's impossible for women to defend themselves against men when they're biologically designed to be more externally vulnerable (to women)
>>82588318>>It doesn't matter because you're going to all die out anyway.>Stop projecting your morality on meWow.
>>82588131>thread shitting on women for biological processes>multiple seething incels in the replies>no fembot seethingwomen insulted, men most effected! lmao
>>82588388might want to reread the comment chain, illiterate
>>82588394Am I a seething incel for saying women should inflate their post-pregnancy bellies?
>>82588394How is the thread shitting on women?
>>82588353Most mormon couples I know hate eachother and only have sex to procreate for religious reasons, and are extremely sexually repressed so yeah I think they probably do suffer a fair amount.
The real question is if a teen (legal) mom with post pregnancy body after two kids has more SMV than a childless 30 year old woman
>>82588429i am not religious at all and have a high sex drive but i also believe in only having sex for reproductive purposes desu my future husband will have to either accept it or kick rocks you cant be a degenerate and married at the same time you need to pick a side cake eaters can eat shit
>>82588450Does inflation count as sex?
>>82588441Obviously the 30 year old, why would I want to date a woman with 2 kids? lmao
>>82588450unironically a justified reason to cheatyou're my wife do your fucking job or I'll find someone else that will
>>82588450>you cant be a degenerate and married at the same time??? I'm a woman but what's the point of waiting until marriage if you can't even enjoy your fetishes with your spouse?
>>82588450>not religious>believes in only having sex for reproductionI'm genuinely curious as to how you arrived at this.
>>82588476I meant purely in terms of physical attractiveness
>>82588493>woman is frigid and treats sex as a transactionmany such cases
>>82588160Breeding is the best feeling in the world. It's the purpose of life. Some idiots just don't want to admit it or are butthurt because they've never had the opportunity to do it themselves.
>>82588450Sex for the sake of pleasure with the one you love and are supposed to trust enough to feel vulnerable with is degenerate to you? I mourn for whatever poor man ends up with you. Maybe try for a rigid 'asexual' man who will ignore you to go drink with his buddies and fuck twinks at road stops when you think he's away on business trips because you inspire no lust in him with your sanctimonious mother superior act. The fact you aren't even religious just makes it all the more cringe.
>>82588493I commend femanon being upfront and honest with that bullshit instead of blindsiding a man after she has trapped him.
>>82588505>It's the purpose of life.This is cope
>>82588478being a wife doesnt mean enable your husband to be a degenerate >>82588480sex is not supposed to be fetishistic but reproductive>>82588493just from a scientific perspective sex literally exists for us to reproduce not be degenerate freaks>>82588504degenerates are the ones who treat sex as a transaction reproducing is what gives sex meaning
>>82588538Marital """rape""" wasn't a concept until the 80s. My father and grandfather got to drill their wives whenever they wanted.
>>82588538>just from a scientific perspective sex literally exists for us to reproduce not be degenerate freaksOkay, cool. If you care about being all natural or whatever then why the fuck are you spending your free time posting on an anonymous imageboard? You're one of those anti-sex freaks, aren't you?
>>82588411Nigger I'm agreeing with you, GET BENT PAL!
>>82588513putting pleasure over reproduction is degeneracy>>82588558i am pretty sure they were drilling them to reproduce not your gross new age fetishes that you got psyopped into believing you cant live without>>82588566where did i say i am anti sex i said it should be had for reproductive purposes because thats literally why it exists in the first place there are so many deviants itt who want to have it both ways oh i want to be a hedonist who has degenerate sex every day but i also want to be a family man thats not how life works
>>82588608>i am pretty sure they were drilling them to reproduce not your gross new age fetishes that you got psyopped into believing you cant live without>both of my grandfathers had kids with multiple women>my father has cheated on my mother>only for reproductionlol
>>82588608>thats not how life worksSo you don't have an actual reason? It's just arbitrary "degeneracy" (which you also haven't elaborated on)
>>82588594My fault bro....
>>82588637what does this have to do with your retarded argument like wow your ancestors cheated ok i guess sex doesnt exist for reproduction then what are you even trying to say>>82588640the reason was explained to you multiple times in this conversation like what about my definition of degeneracy was arbitrary it is all sex that is not reproductive because it is all meaningless if its not making sense maybe look at the world around you without your gooner goggles for once to see it for what it is
>>82588679Do you realize men only care about fucking you? If you take that away they won't actually care about you. How naive are you? Are you from some backwater shithole?
>>82588696do you realize i only care about men who care about fucking me for reproductive purposes and if i didnt i would end up a self destructive degenerate whore with a meaningless life you have only two options either choose marriage or a life of degeneracy you cant have both degenerate couples that try to make it work are falling apart much harder than those mormons who only have sex for reproduction for a reason
>>82588679>it is all meaninglessThis doesn't make any sense, you said you weren't religious. Fucking for pleasure has just as much "meaning" as fucking for reproduction. Even disregarding that, why would it being "meaningless" make it bad? Why is pleasure bad? >look at the world around you without your gooner goggles for once to see it for what it isYou clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about because every healthy long-lasting marriage has regular sex. Not all women are as averse to sex as you.
>>82588729pleasure is bad because it leads people down destructive paths it is very telling that a woman saying we should only have sex for reproduction equals anti sex or not regular sex because it implies you cannot engage in your degenerate activities that you apparently care so much about that they are even more important than having a family
>>82588766>pleasure is bad because it leads people down destructive pathsNo it doesn't, pleasure is a normal part of being human.>degenerate activities that you apparently care so much about that they are even more important than having a familyYou can have a family and still have regular sex, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>82588805stop switching words it is very dishonest you CANNOT have a family and engage in degeneracy why does your regular sex have to be degenerate and how in any way does that create a healthy relationship because all i see in those people is stuff like open marriages and cuckoldry and divorce who wouldve thought that would happen when you ignore the fact that sex is for reproduction and pretend its for meaningless temporary pleasure yeah go ahead and ruin your chances of having a normal life a normal marriage a normal family for cooming its just that important to you
>>82588848You have an extremely maladjusted and inaccurate view of the world and how relationships work. Regular sex in marriages is good and normal. I don't know where you got open marriages and cuckoldry and divorce from, that's not normal.
>>82588671s'all good man
>>82588131I'm a man and I got stretch marks after trying to fucking eat myself to death over a yearthe stretch marks got so bad that it started to bleed on its own. Had recurring dreams about accidently getting stuck on some sharp object and my guts spilling out
>>82588131> stretchmarksUncultured :(With that said though, I totally get not wanting to get your partner pregnant, but only from a "This will affect our future poorly if we're not prepared/ready" kind of way.>>82588848Dude, you come off as the type of person who used to be a porn addict, stopped, but still have the porn-addict perspective of sex. Hedonistic sex/intimacy is bad, but sex/intimacy on it's own is part of a healthy relationship. I don't think you understand the difference here.
Beauty is fleeting regardless of getting pregnant or not.
>>82588131You are creating new life, you pass some of your own to create something of your own. It's something that should be cherished. Now all foids are more worried that they can't get more fucking dicks in their stretched whore pussy and that they can't get drunk and become retarded. That is a priority over something sacred.Women are trash now.
>>82588145It's funny when women say this because THEY are that
>>82588131you forgot to mention bigger tits and a more vulptuous body caused by progesterone, which in my opinion makes up for it
>>82589885Very cultured :)
>>82589885this, for somen women, their tits really blow up
>>82588145how do you produce offspring without taxing your body? babies being parasites is a cope
Almost like that's why you should only have sex with a man you could see as a father that would be willing to raise your children and love you despite the physical changes. And no getting obese after childbirth isn't an option
>>82590154If I lived by your metrics, and in fact most women do, you would all continue to be childless and never reproduce.
>>82590177I'm married and love my wife and son, sorry retard.
>>82590154>And no getting obese after childbirth isn't an optionI'm already fat so anyone I breed with will be into that~
>>82588240thinly veiled rape fetish/pregnancy fetish thread. please kiss the dirtiest part of my white asshole, nigger. thread hidden.
>>82589885Also post-pregnancy bellies are more inflatable. Don't forget about that part.
>>82588131If a woman gave me a baby I'd see her as the most beautiful woman in the world for the rest of my life desu.
>>82590206Yeah that's why you spend your time here arguing with surrogate women
>>82590247kek you're unhinged
>>82590330If the digestive system is conditioned enough to handle large volumes of air, the abdominal wall and skin become the main barriers to inflation, and they get expanded brilliantly by pregnancy.
>>82590358>tfw this anon is going to go full Josef Mengele on his wife
>>82588222>Born with all the right genesNo, you just picked the right ones to chimerize you. The experience of the pregnancy itself is chiefly related to the health/genes of the one who breeds the bred. Morning sickness is a skill issue, but one of taste and discernment in mates, not of inferior personal genetics (at least in any sense more than being a shit sexual selector).
>>82590395The female body simply demands to be full. This is the satisfaction all women crave on an evolutionary level.
>>82588131yea i really want kids and to be a mom and im already super insecure with my body as it is, id probably hate myself even more after
>>82590418>The experience of the pregnancy itself is chiefly related to the health/genes of the one who breeds the bred.This is why if I get married, I'm gonna insist that both me and my husband spend a few months~a year working out and eating right before trying for a child. He can slack off again once I'm pregnant, but I don't wanna get fucked over by his shit lifestyle choices.
>>82590418My friend's wife had morning sickness but would shrug it off and say it's no big deal and still sprint up and down the stairs. She also didn't have an epidural and blasted the baby out in 4 pushes. What did she mean by this?
>>82590561yeah... it is definitely there
>>82590696>it is definitely thereWhat do you mean?
>>82590718the idea of your husband exists for everyone here, but not people not here- and that's basically it means to have a biological mind
>>82588240>men are terminator rapebots with primary function set to RAPE and not even mace and tasers deter themyou are living in a fantasy world of your own concoction, it must be nice to be able to walk around with your head up your fucking ass all day. i'm so sick of you morons who talk PAST the anons saying common sense on here. the post you're replying to basically destroyed your stupid fucking thread and you're still coming back with these bullshit, retard fucking mental midget cunt hypotheticals.
>>82590225i stopped reaching for conclusions like this that conveniently explain the stupidity of the average /r9k/ cunt but that was until i actually talked to some of these people off of this board, they actually are this retarded, but yeah, i want to believe this too
>>82590007a lot of women look far better after pregnancy because they fill out in a really flattering way for a woman. most of op's post is bullshit he pulled out of his ass, your hair doesn't permanently lose quality after pregnancy and nor do you permanently lose skin elasticity, just total nonsense.
>>82588805>No it doesn't, pleasure is a normal part of being human.appeal to nature fallacy, by that logic so is rape and war. what defines normalcy in this day and age? you are all porn addicted freaks with fucked dopamine receptors. i would say that the truth is closer to what the anon you're replying to is saying, hedonism is extremely dangerous to the human condition and provide too much pleasure and this is the kind of thing that happens. "normal" doesn't mean good, we strive every day to supersede what's normal, you should be making comparisons and allusions to what's virtuous and moral, not what's normal.
>>82590761they lose their looks with each pregnancy you can look that shit up
https://myhealthopedia.com/20-permanent-body-changes-after-pregnancyAnyone who argues about how they don't become ugly after childbirth. Here you go retards.
>>82588254It's your fault for choosing a bad partner. Women always crave the worst and then wonder why their lives are a mess. The only reason why people with good genes aren't extinct is because in the past, men were the ones who chose their daughter's husband. Bring back patriarchy and arranged marriages, and we'll have a glorious age again.
>>82589640Kek, I can relate a little. I have stretch marks on my arms and belly from loosing a lot of weight.
>>82591144>It's your fault for choosing a bad partner.The same applies to men who are divorced raped, right?
>>82591218Nope. Divorce rape is only possible because the system today in most countries is matriarchal. Modern Western civilization is the result of a post-feminist revolution financed by oligarchs. All women are parasitic niggers who shouldn't be treated as equal or superior to men, divorce rape is just what happens when you give power to the cattle.
>>82591144My examples weren't men I ever dated nor would. You're so quick to deny even the most mundane cruelty your own kind and you by clear extension of your other post are not only capable of but feel justified in doing. I sincerely hope no woman has to endure being with a man like you. I wouldn't wish that suffering on even a woman I truly hated. I can't tell you what to do, but if that's what you truly believe please never get into a relationship with a woman. You are only capable of destroying and killing women. You are fundamentally incapable of love and everyone would be better off if you remained alone.
>men: RAPE IS OKAY!>also men: NNNNNNOOOOOO IT'A NOT OKAY TO DIVORCE RAPE MEN!!Moids bring hypocritical as always.
>>82591321>I sincerely hope no woman has to endure being with a man like youNeither do I. I'm staying away from you in my own volition.>You are only capable of destroying and killing womenLMFAO, women will say that and then fall for the likes of Ted Bundy.
>>82591268So if a woman has a shit partner, it's her fault. If a man has a shit partner, it's not his fault. You sure sound like a catch.
>>82591405Who are the protagonists of mankind? Who literally built every fucking thing from wheels, to ships, to spacecrafts? That's right, men.
>>82588131I literally suffered none of this except maybe that elastin one, and I've had 3 kids
>>82591431men are also responsible for genocides, but you just want to claim the work of better men than you to uplift your ego. What have you personally built? Other than shitty strawman arguments. Women are more educated and taking up more responsibility now than ever while men languish in their despair because they don't know how to exist without a woman to prop them up all the time.
>>82591405>should women that have a shit judgment of character that marry scumbags instead of decent people be punished?probably
>>82591466>men are also responsible for genocidesTrue, but genocides are only perpetrated by those who can. Women never committed huge atrocities because they are powerless to do so, you're alive because now you're lying in the mercy of powerful men. The same argument could be made about why niggers never oppressed as much as white people; it's because they can't, not because they don't want to.>you just want to claim the work of better men than you to uplift your egoI'm not claiming, I'm recognizing, stupid cunt.>What have you personally built?Nothing of great value, I'm just an ordinary individual, that doesn't mean I won't say the truth about who is brilliant and who isn't.>Women are more educated and taking up more responsibility now than everKek, what responsibility are women taking right now? The burden of a thousand dicks?
>>82591485>should men that have a shit judgment of character that marry scumbags instead of decent people be punished?probably
>>82591565but I don't want to be gay so what other choice do I have?
