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waiting on that 3rdQ report edition
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>>82610859
my shoulder hurts, no gym today
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>>82610913
I fucked up my upper back last week so had to skip the mon/tues lifting suggestions, going tomorrow
not doing direct back work until friday so hopefully fairly close to 100% then, feel it's about 70% right now

a noob to upper trap work and trap work in general so figuring it out, and there are just way more lat-focused machines in my gym for some reason, maybe that's common

gonna try behind-the-back smith machine shrugs if I can nab it (foids doing hip thrusts 90% of the time)
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Going shopping and to breakfast with my mommy and aunt tomorrow but gonna stay up all night shitposting and watching the addams family
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I look young, but made the mistake of revealing my age to a younger coworker who asked if I knew one of his friends who went to my college.

"i thought you were my age. my bad brah."

in other news, i'm buying a car to get in on the sweet EV tax credit in the USA before it expires at the end of the month.
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Where the fuck are single men and women in their 30s supposed to meet each other?
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QOTT: are you going to r9con?
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>>82610997
>each other
I don't want to meet a woman in her 30s. I'd rather meet a woman in her early 20s, or late teens even. Much better odds of getting one who doesn't have past relationship/partner history.
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>>82610997
why would you want to meet a woman in her 30s?
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>>82610859
In a bit of a bind. My apartment keeps flooding with raw sewage every few months. I took my families advice finally and asked them to let me break the lease. Which they agreed to. But now I'm in a spot where I need to somehow move all my stuff and my cat somewhere before the month ends. I'm flat broke right now and to be honest I am really comfy in my apartment minus the whole raw sewage randomly flooding the bathroom thing.

I know I need to move out of here and it's a serious safety issue. I mean they come and clean it and spray chemicals every time, but it's been 4 times now that it happened in the year since I moved in, it's basically a quarterly occurrence.

But also I'm really dreading it. I hate moving. Especially so short notice is going to be so difficult and just I'm feeling so stressed having to uproot my entire life. Just wanna be comfy... why is life always throwing curveballs?
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>>82611043
doesn't bother me
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>>82611045
it's the tax you pay for renting and not buying. you are a retard for asking to break your lease when you are broke.
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>>82610997
I don't even bother with millennial women
zoomer women are cooler
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>>82611043
1: youd have to be pretty fucking retarded to take a look at that picture and be like LOOK AT ALL WOMEN OVER 30. but this is an incel board, so you probably are

2: its great she says that stuff up front, so i could scroll right past her. better than wasting time getting to know someone like that.
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>>82611111
>1: youd have to be pretty fucking retarded to take a look at that picture and be like LOOK AT ALL WOMEN OVER 30.
Nobody's saying that. Plenty of women over 30 aren't like that. Most aren't like that, actually. Thing is, the women over 30 who aren't like that are all taken already.
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>>82611127
they arent, i have direct experience with that, but keep on losing and making up excuses for it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MCHI23FTP8&list=RD3MCHI23FTP8&start_radio=1&pp=ygUlbWUgYW5kIHRoZSBkZXZpbCBibHVlcyByb2JlcnQgam9obnNvbqAHAQ%3D%3D
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>>82611045
I also considered moving to a house my mom owns in a very small town. I'd be able to stay there rent free. I'm a full time student and work has been destroying my ability to keep up, so I was basically going to just quit my job and move there. I still kind of want to move there. It's so peaceful and I hate the city. But I am getting cold feet about actually quitting my job. It pays really nice, like 2x more than my old job. The job market is shit and it might be a very long time before I could get another job that pays this nicely. Also they have these sweet 4 day weeks where I work overnights which is super nice since I'm antisocial and avoidant and love night time. I wouldn't want to ever go back to morning shifts or 5 day weeks. I hate 9 - 5 M - F work schedules and being able to work this nontraditional shifts is a huge benefit for me.

Either way I'm running out of time to make a decision. The month is almost over and I'd need to be out of here by the end of the 30th.
>>82610997
I saw an advertisement a few times for this website that sets random strangers up to hang out and go to dinners together. It's something like 5 - 8 random people meetups, seemed aimed mostly at older people. Reading the comments and looking at the pictures, it was almost exclusively women aged 30+ using it. Many comments said how they wished more men would show up. I'd bet you could find single older women using that.

Personally I wouldn't. They're single for a reason. I would not date a single woman my age unless I were fully confident she was a virgin which is like finding a unicorn. The reason no men show up to those is probably they know there's no point. It looked basically like post wall career women all looking for someone to save them.
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I finally joined you fags. When do l get my magic powers?
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>>82611156
Not being a terrible 30-something woman's backup plan is winning, actually.
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>>82611043
Honestly her standards here are quite reasonable. Especially by modern standards this is all surprisingly down to earth. I don't fault someone for wanting an outgoing, ambitious, optimistic partner. And not liking beards, truck drivers, or tattoos is fair. Those aren't some insanely high standards just preferences. The only thing on her list that I find a bit unusual is caring about someone being a graduate of a top 50 school, that's just a strange thing to even care about in my opinion. But I wouldn't fault it really. Overall these are some pretty reasonable "requirements", also she's still a bit cute although obviously she's on the bad side of 30 and isn't going to be much longer. Probably that picture is from when she was several years younger.

Still, that's hardly representative of what you'll usually find on dating sites over 30yrs old.

The default is going to be overweight, has tattoos, probably has one or multiple kids from a previous relationship, and demands stuff like 6 feet tall, 6 figures, willing to financially support her and her kids, will marry her before she puts out, all sorts of insanity. By comparison this one really isn't that bad, to be honest she's probably in the top 5% of dating app profiles in that age range.
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>cut off bff in hs because I didn't like how much my mom liked her more than me and just grew apart, she was just not my type of person
>mom stubbornly keeps in contact with her (???) and would randomly tell me about her life, she has kids now
>31 years old and go back to my hometown
>she's working at the fucking speedy q I stop at, OF COURSE
>act like I don't recognize her at all and just get my shit and go
Gross.
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Here, have a pity bump. I hope you gentlemen can use this thread to get some human contact with each other. Life sucks of course but at least we have internet access, coffee and vidya.
Here is a question: What video game would you recommend to people in this thread for a good experience?
Having to repost this because it didn't attach the image to the post. Happening a lot lately for some reason.
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>>82612616
My overall video game consumption has drastically decreased going into my 36th year. I really do want to pour another 100 hours into CK2, EU4/5 and a bunch of other games but I'd rather do other things like reading, exercise. I also just enjoy watching things like Broodwar and some streamers when unwinding.
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Aw, man. This glorified bot just calculated that a Type III civilization could realistically simulate over three nonillion simulated full-history realities by the year 100 billion which would be 25 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 years of human history for all 117 billion humans to have ever lived. So a Type III could simulate more years than the age of the Universe itself.

I would have loved to have known that in my preteens and not in my thirties!
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>>82610859
As of a few hours ago, I have finally reached 30 years on this gay earth. Any general life advice for the next decade? I always hear stuff thrown around to people in their 20s, but would appreciate something more age relevant.

I already have a stable job, place to live, and long term partner if that changes anything.
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>>82610913
>>82610927
Lower the weight you're using, you shouldn't be injuring yourself at all, you don't need to go as heavy as they say unless you're actively using PEDs.
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>>82612967
>I already have a stable job, place to live, and long term partner
Based off of everything I have been told about the meaning of life as of my current ripe old age of 36 years; you are pretty much good to go.
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>>82612967
the last (next) thing you need to do is stop using this site
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>>82612967
>Any general life advice for the next decade
Depends what you want going forward. Are you having children? Do you want to travel a lot? Do you want the same job in 5-15 years?
imho at 30 if you have your shit together it's about maintaining, filling in gaps and looking and what you can improve on.
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>>82612967
>>82612990
life is messy because you have to live it and it's what you want it to be. Some guys would live fin having the wife and kids but never making anything of themselves, others would sooner be alone and die alone if they got wealth and status along with it. Then a large amount of people just want it to work like a game and whatever the meta is, that's what they go to do and those that can't spend more time trying to tell you they are better for what they have.
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>one of my coworkers clearly snitched on me
People are such snakes. Acting all friendly to try and find dirt on you then immediately going behind your back and reporting it to management. Makes you wonder why people don't snap and go postal more often.
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>>82613384
>Not saying what he did
Deserved imo
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>>82610997
i didnt even know where to meet women in my 20s. every single woman i met was already in relationship
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>>82612988
sometimes bodies just fuck up. older you get, more often it happens
>>82610986
whatcha getting
>>82611463
top 50 school req is a low key way of seeing how much money the dude has
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>>82612967
don't get fat. your health is the most important thing. find a productive hobby you enjoy and get really good at it
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>>82613903
that was kind of like my graduate program. like 80 women and 10 guys and virtually none of the women were romantically available really.
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>>82610997
I meet women in their 20s on Seeking.
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>>82614042
all they wanted me to be is their friend. i didn't understand that. why i suppose to do your boyfriends job to you?
i forever i remember when i fell for this once. i was so done after a party we split up and walked alone to my apartment to sleep alone. such a amazing feeling that was
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>>82614073
women don't even want to be friends with me usually, unless it's some bullshit group outing
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>>82610997
Your question is like asking how to get black friday deals in February. Whatever you get, it won't be worth it, and everything worth getting was taken long before you started looking.
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>>82614010
>sometimes bodies just fuck up. older you get, more often it happens
I thought the same thing, and then I lowered the weight on half my lifts and worked my way up.
Listen to your body, idiot.
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>>82613903
The weirdest propaganda was telling young people to hold off on dating and networking relationships. It made everyone who was serious about it get the best and top shelf sooner and just fuck over anyone that did the "wise" thing and waited until they were older. I got so much shit in my youth for marrying in my teens but fast forward 15 years later I still love her and we have two kids while everyone shitting on us are now in their 30s and much like this thread have no idea how to solve for their loneliness because humans were not built to ignore their most primal and fertile years to try and pair bond decades later after their cells start failing to replicate correctly.
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36-year-old virgin

Where the fuck are my wizardry powers? I already paid like a thousand dollars to sacrifice a goat

It was either that or a hooker for my 30th birthday
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>>82614798
You could get a hooker for your 37th Birthday
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>>82614798
>I already paid like a thousand dollars to sacrifice a goat
$1000 could've got you a top of the line escort
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>>82614793
i am European and during that time i hanged out whit lots of leftist. i remember "ungdomshuset" demolition. maybe those commies ware on to something.
how important these type of places are. now there is absolutely none of them. everything is on the internet
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>>82614798
You didn't get an invitation to the goat tower on your 30th birthday?
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>>82610997
Dating apps.
Some men and women sometimes just drift through life without ever having any kind of relationship and you can find people like that on Bumble and Hinge. Yes, you will see a sea of human waste, but there are people just like you on there. It's not over.
t. former wizard
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>>82614888
meeting a girl on a dating app is worse than anything else. That's where I met my ex with BPD. And now I'm a mental wreck and will never interact with women romantically ever again
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>>82610859
>waiting on that 3rdQ report edition
decided to tattoo all my back with shit i read and anime song lyrics that make me cry, probably will add some drawings but not so sure, i think ill start on saturday, who cares at this point
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>>82614888
I've been trying dating apps for years. I've had a lot of first dates off of them but usually get ghosted after that.
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>>82614912
>hat's where I met my ex with BPD. And now I'm a mental wreck and will never interact with women romantically ever again
What happened anon? What did she do?
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>>82610997
>each other
No idea. But if you wanna meet 18-22 yo girls I use Tinder. Easy asf
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>>82614962
>What happened anon? What did she do?
cheated most of the relationship, hid it, when I found out, she gaslighted and told me it wasn't like that, then when I finally put my foot down she said she wanted an open relationship. No "sorry", just, "I have NEEDS".
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>>82614975
>No "sorry", just, "I have NEEDS".
That's women in general anon. Sorry you had to go through that. I would tell you to not be blackpilled, but I'm not sure if there are any above being this way
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>>82614975
You shouldn't have cheated then, anon.
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>>82615006
I've never cheated on any girl I've been with, but it seems they are fine cheating on me when I'm too loyal I suppose. I'm too safe I guess? Too boring? No excitement? No drama? The ick begins?
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>>82615059
>I'm too safe I guess? Too boring? No excitement? No drama? The ick begins?
All of those. Women are incompatible with the way we love anon. They need to feel you can slip away at any moment, which requires you to be emotionally unavailable to them, which is sad for both parties involved.
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>>82615077
The sad thing is when you know another couple, so you are emotionally unavailable to her because you respect their relationship, then the guy goes away and the girl thinks this is a prime time to bang you since you are the "mysterious other guy" in her mind
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>>82615059
Too much of a bitch, more like.
I've cheated on girls at least 20-30 times. Guess what? They don't really care. Just a bit of bark and then you're good.

You have only yourself to blame
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>>82615100
I never wanted to cheat, I guess I was a bitch, yes, actually loving them. And not treating them like whore dolls like the most successful guys in the dating world do
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>>82615059
>but it seems they are fine cheating on me when I'm too loyal I suppose
yeah, you need to act shitty first otherwise they will cross you, all women are the same and are wired the same, they can bark all they want about "not all of us are like that" but once they get the chill guy they cheat because its easier and gives them the thrill
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>>82615090
Yes, exactly. I'm a very romantic guy and I've found that the best way to have constant access to women with minimal trouble is being a "friend" with benefits, which is very degen to me, but it's the only arrangement where you get sex and the woman can have a constant supply of excitement, since she doesn't see you every day

Pic related is very relevant. I just want to love the one until I die instead of playing games, but they don't really want that, even if they say that they do. You can spend 20 years married with a woman with everything being fine, then on year 21, day 1, she will be fine leaving everything if she finds that excitement somewhere else
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>>82615121
>actually loving them
Oh boo-hoo. You can cheat on your girl a few times and still love her. You don't even need to tell her, if you prefer.
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the point of 30+ isn't to out-chad the other posters
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>>82615192
go back to roblox lil bro
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>>82615179
>Oh boo-hoo. You can cheat on your girl a few times and still love her. You don't even need to tell her, if you prefer.
It's more the principle thing for me. But then I found out as I got older, women have no such principles. So why should I get involved with any women if they are all basically mentally child hookers? Whats the value there?
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>>82615202
>Whats the value there?
Sex and reproduction anon, as it's always been. If you get a truly exceptional one, you can also have emotional companionship, but it's still risky
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5 whole years of being a neet coming to an end next week.

I'm not sure what to do about this honestly, I feel like death, literal doom looming over me. I'm so thankful I lucked out and managed to neet for 5 years on government money. But now its ending and I both understand it had to end but on the other side, being a neet is just objectively a better life for me. The grass isn't greener for me, being unemployed is literally the better option. You get to dictate your own schedule, you just get into a comfy pattern and just let time fly by, I don't even mind it, it's the ideal way of living, just skating by as a ghost.

But now its over and now I will be raping my body and mind by spending most hours of the day away from my home, away from where I want to be, doing something that I don't care for, being around people I don't want to be around and for money I don't give a shit about.
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>>82615245
working isn't that bad, and i say this as a person who only does jobs that start 5 minutes after i apply to them
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>>82615241
>Sex and reproduction anon,
what if I don't value the material genetic biological ooga booga must make children thing?
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>>82615202
>the principle thing
What principle? Stop glorifying sex you sound mentally ill. Having a few side pieces is normal and healthy.
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>>82615266
>What principle? Stop glorifying sex you sound mentally ill. Having a few side pieces is normal and healthy.
I guess I was raised wrong, love and devotion isn't a thing. Coupling is a contract for babies while you go off and fuck whoever you want.
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>>82615279
>love and devotion isn't a thing
>boo-hoo wahh wahh
You can love someone and fuck some girls on the side. Grow up. I've done it many times, and so have most men in history.
Love is real but you don't have to be a baby.
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>>82615265
Then you don't really _need_ women. Congrats?
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>>82615261
>working isn't that bad
It actually is. Every second I spend on something I don't want to do is death on the soul. Again I don't care about money at all. I'd rather live on welfare that work and have money.

This is zero irony or exaggeration if you gave me 2 options, I get 2k bucks a month to live on doing nothing, or I get 20k a month working full time. I take the 2k every time.
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>>82615292
>You can love someone and fuck some girls on the side. Grow up.
Maybe that's my problem, I never grew up.
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>>82615312
No, anon. What you want is perfectly reasonable, it's just that reality is incompatible with it

It doesn't mean you have to be a "player" or keep "side pieces" like that other anon, if you find it unsavory. If that doesn't seem dignified to you, being alone is an option until you find someone that meets your expectations

You don't have to corrupt yourself.
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>>82615292
You sound like a literal monkey.
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I just have this reoccuring thought about not even being worth enough for a romantic kiss. It hits differently when you're a wizard in mid 30s.
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>>82615406
>>82615406
>You don't have to corrupt yourself.
i can't "corrupt" I've just decided to not engage anymore. This unicorn that practices her own value thats not simply enforced by her family/scoail circle im convinced now doesn't even exist. And if it does, it's a tranny
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>>82615510
>This unicorn that practices her own value thats not simply enforced by her family/scoail circle im convinced now doesn't even exist.
Maybe it exists in some older women, that have had life experience and time to reflect, and have the capability for it.

In younger women? yeah, those qualities probably don't exist
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>>82612988
its not the weight, its my fucked shoulder being bad at some ranges of motion. tried out a new machine, couldnt do it, the end.
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>>82614763
yesterday I tweaked my back while I was just putting an unloaded bar back on a rack, and I can lift a lot more than a fuckin bar, you cocksucking pedantic shit for brains
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>>82615977
you should probably work on your core and posture
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man i knew we were in that period of life where friends are getting married and having kids but my oldest best friend ive known since middle school lost his dad recently. fuck me boys i feel so bad
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>>82615996
those are fine, otherwise I'd really be wrecking my shit when doing loaded work. sometimes shit happens. I'll be better by tomorrow so whatever
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>>82616044
>sometimes shit happens.
not really, you wouldn't get injured without bad form or some minor mistakes.
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>>82616056
yeah really. glad it's never happened to you, but maybe when you grow up some more you'll realize not everyone shares your lived experience
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>>82616329
you only get injuries when you move in a way your body isn't ready for. they don't happen if you have good form. this isn't some kind of flex
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Feels weird being 31
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>>82616469
sometimes people can be doing a routine activity, doesn't have to be lifting at the gym (which I wasn't even doing, really, just putting a bar back), and their bodies will just decide that this time, it isn't happy with whatever it is they're doing. shit happens. and I don't care if you're trying to flex or whatever, but you are being annoyingly pedantic. so I'll return the favor: when people complain about shit, they aren't necessarily looking to you for advice or a solution. and when they are, and they tell you that what you're telling them does not match their experience, it's best to accept that rather than to keep pressing them, because when you press them, they'll just get agitated and be even more likely to reject your advice now and going forward
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>>82616469
Depends. Don't deadlift nor barbell squat, they stress the shit out of your lower back even with good form

General advice is to warm up to whatever is your current working weight, never rush to lift heavy weights without warming up. i.e. if you bench 220 pounds for reps as your working weight, warm up first with an empty bar, then load 1 plate each side, then load 2 plates
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i think losing my mind is the only path forward
either by numbing myself silly or not caring about anything more i.e. going insane
i just cannot take it with a straight face anymore
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35 here. Everyday my life becomes slightly worse as the sinking feeling in my stomach grows deeper.
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>>82615245
>5 whole years of being a neet coming to an end next week.
How/why did you get a job and why can't you continue living on neetbux?

I understand you anon.
I can't say I completely share your sentiment about work. But I totally agree that making some money by doing nothing is better than making tons of money wageslaving with no time left to live your life.
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>>82616485
Can't believe I'm going to be that in two weeks. I mean I'm not one of those "time has flown" people, I feel like a lot of time has passed. But I'm blessed with good genetics so I still feel like I'm in my prime and people who don't know me guess my age as 23-25.
KHHV but I don't care anymore. I have quite a lot money because I never moved out, a few friends, nice hobbies and a lot of freedom outside of my job. Life's pretty good once you do a bit of introspection and realise you don't need women to be content. Most people I know who are married or have gfs tend to complain about it way too much. Just gonna focus on staying in good shape, investing more and more and enjoying my hobbies.
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>>82617235
>How/why did you get a job and why can't you continue living on neetbux?
Government requires something out of you on unemployement where I live, after covid it was really easy to skate by doing nothing because everything was basically thrown into disarray and these employment agencies basically did nothing, were understaffed. What's happened now is I've been literally handed a job and if I deny it they take away my neetbux so I have no choice.
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>>82617248
>KHHV but I don't care anymore. I have quite a lot money because I never moved out,
Man just fuck escorts.
If its dangerous in you country than travel (you sound like you can afford this)
No objections just do it, expand your horizons.
I lost my virginity to an escort at 37 and only regret i didn't i do it earlier (when realistically i wasn't ready before).

I feel like i walked into a place that had brazen fire before but i only found ashes and some glowing embers. They were warm and cool. It WAS a magic.
I just wish i was here when it was brazen fire.
Just fucking do it it. Time is running out.
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>>82617248
>I still feel like I'm in my prime and people who don't know me guess my age as 23-25.
I had a stroke at 32 and bounced back and feel better than ever. It sounds cliche, but last year I went to a therapist to get my head cleared out to help my anxiety and this year I started working out. I feel better at 36 than I've felt in the past 10 years.
I will say though, anon, if you don't move out of your parents house, you'll never land a good girl. I'm married and friends with lots of women and every single girl I know says a guy living at home after college is the biggest red flag in the dating world.
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>>82613413
I avoided a deranged customer who has been calling in trying to speak with me obsessively. I admitted I've been avoiding her calls for many months to a coworker. She snitched.
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>>82615059
>I'm too safe I guess? Too boring? No excitement? No drama? The ick begins?
Yeah actually. I only dated in HS but I remember my then gf would "joke" asking me where are all my hoes, why don't I have hoes, etc? I realized pretty quick it was one of those "jokes" where a person is saying their genuine thoughts but using irony/sarcasm as a sort of plausible deniability thing. Essentially she was telling me that her instincts were making me revolting to her because if she doesn't see me entertaining other women or being fawned over by other women, then I must not be high status and therefore not desirable to date.

They call it the "ick" but basically it is just them becoming self aware of their hypergamous nature. If you listen even to the most feminist women they'll admit to this intentionally or unintentionally over and over again. It is undeniable fact that human females are naturally extremely hypergamous. Monogamy isn't their natural state. If you engage in monogamy, they will need constant reminders that you have other options, otherwise they can't feel "special" and will devalue the relationship. Not that this is some new insight I'm posting here.

Note you don't have to actually cheat on your woman to keep her respecting and valuing you, but she does need to feel like you *could* easily do so. If she gets the impression that you'd have no success with other women, you can kiss that relationship goodbye, it's only a matter of time.
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>>82615433
You sound like a literal bitch.
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I have never seen a vagina in real life, that is what is of importance here.
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>>82616485
I will be 40 next month.

I feel sad about it.
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>>82617916
Time to find another thread, boomer! XD
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>Guy talking about side women to virgins
Don't do this. However you should still be talking to and noticing other women - that's healthy.
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I have avoidant personality disorder and I'm incapable of intimacy. I am 34 years old and a kissless virgin.

Not even autistic, not ugly. I could have easily gotten laid if my brain wasn't fucked up and terrified of people. I want it yet I have no drive and forcing it is next to impossible given all the anxiety attached.

I genuinely know it in my heart that it will never happen. I am going to die a virgin
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>>82615152
>instead of playing games, but they don't really want that,
Yeah theres never honesty, just game playing, shit testing, too draining for me
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>>82615202
>Whats the value there?
Sex, cleaning, decorating, bringing pleasant feminine energy into my home, if I had kids taking care of them or since I don't, creating kids, cooking, managing extended social circle because as a man I don't have the energy or drive to bother keeping up with my family and friends, etc. Women have plenty of benefits they can certainly enrich your life. However you have to be aware that loyalty is not necessarily one of those benefits. In fact it's the exception to the general rule which is that they are mercenary and will leave you or cheat on you or betray you if given the opportunity and enough motive.

This was previously counterbalanced by strong traditional societal structure which punished traitor women with an immense level of social ostracization and it being considered a huge taboo. In modern times those social controls are very relaxed. The benefits are not worth the downsides due to that, unless you're a masochist.

When my brothers ex gf cheated on him, even after they broke up she still enjoyed perfect access to the social circle and wasn't outcasted by my family. They still invited her places, still acted friendly and pleasant towards her, it was only after she continued treating THEM poorly that they finally cut her off. In the past a woman doing such a thing would've been socially ostracized but not so much these days.

Unless you're part of a culture with very strong family values and ties, you will be far more susceptible to bad outcomes. As an individual you can't exert enough social pressure to stop a woman from acting mercenary.
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>>82615245
>The grass isn't greener for me, being unemployed is literally the better option. You get to dictate your own schedule, you just get into a comfy pattern and just let time fly by, I don't even mind it, it's the ideal way of living, just skating by as a ghost.
I'm the exact same but people like you and I are a minority. Most people are natural workhorses. They get anxious and depressed without a job, without a boss micromanaging them and telling them what to do. They feel bad about themselves if they aren't engaged in some form of labor. Their self image demands they have a job at all times. I personally despise working with a passion. I hate having to work. Even "good" jobs suck. I miss being NEET a lot.
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>>82618231
Most people want more than basic living conditions. I enjoy the work I do, I'm not at all micromanaged. It's flexible and engaging. If I could fund my retirement I absolutely would and would spend some of my time learning because my brain does require stimulation
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>>82618270
>Most people want more than basic living conditions
This isn't my point at all. I'm saying even if you could make the exact same living standards without having to work, a huge number of people would still choose to anyways. They won't admit this to themselves, but after a year or two (probably not even this long) of unemployment they'd elect to start working again just to "have something to do".
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>>82610859
Hi can someone older explain the "stomp clap hey" mysic fad.
I vaguely remember it (I was 3yo when it peaked) being in insurance & car commercials. I tried listening to some recently and I CANT STAND IT.
Why did millennials (when they were my age) LOVE this music so much?
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What is the best AI for gooning?
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>>82618231
I'm trying really hard not to be a baby about it, people have to work, it's just a reality of the world and I was incredibly lucky to get to neet for 5 years. But it really does feel like doom is upon me. I don't know how I'll make it work without going back to hating my life.

I am mentally so much better off now than I was when I worked last, just in every way.
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>>82618501
They play this kind of music at my work and it drives me insane
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>>82618674
I feel your pain anon. 5yrs ago almost to the exact date I was going through the same. I'd enjoyed being NEET due to covid and was collecting unemployment. But September 2020 I had to go back to work. It's been 5yrs now and I've not had a break off from working ever since. The pain doesn't stop it still sucks just as much today as it did 5yrs ago. It's just an endless torture. Day after day. When I'm at work I'm miserable. When I'm not at work I'm still in dread because I know I have to go back. Even as I type this it's the last 20 or so minutes before I have to leave for a 12 hour shift. And then the cycle repeats. Forever. I'm not really suicidal or depressed necessarily. I love life but the brutal truth that life is basically just endlessly wage slaving makes death seem appealing. If I could be NEET and just have basic needs assured like shelter, food, water, I'd want to live as long as possible. But the prospect of a long dragged out existence of soul killing labor makes me constantly crave the big sleep. I don't care how dramatic or spoiled this sounds, its the truth.
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>>82619056
fuck me man, sorry to hear all that. I hate reading it because it's coming for me

I really do understand why people go homeless and then just never, ever get out of it because they are just not made for working a job. The freedom of having control over your shitty homeless life vs being forced into a job you hate, the freedom is more appealing genuinely.
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>>82610859
joint pain general
>>82610913
fpbp
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>>82618501
>why did millennials listen to white people music and not nigger mumble rap and kpop?
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>>82618685
>They play this kind of music at my work and it drives me insane
I'm sorry for you. I had a job were they played like easy listening (stuff like "this ones for the girls" and "1000 miles") I hate that shit so much.
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>>82610997
Tinder and...no, that's about it.
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>>82611014
>Much better odds of getting one who doesn't have past relationship/partner history.
Kek sorry anon but if you live in the west you need to go down to single digits for that and the guy who could've hooked you up killed himself in prison
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>>82618461
I also said the same thing. I'd be electing to study. It's the stereotype of older guys working on moterbikes/doing gardening/renovations. The body and mind require work or they rot
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>>82614975
post your cock size retard, are you ugly too?
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>>82610859
thinking about getting into the healthcare industry but i also can't stand the thought of working in an industry populated by 80% overpaid liberal stacies who got the job for being popular and pretty.
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>>82613903
The best way to find love in your 30s is to have met someone in your teens or 20s lol
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>>82620852
>Healthcare industry
You might as well say something as vague as moving to another country
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>35
>always knew something was fucked up in my head and I was "different"
>was always pretty sure I'd die alone
>closest I've ever come to love was being molested by a fat femcel pedophile as a child
>got official diagnoses as an adult but it's way too late to change any of it
Gotten to the point where I can't even really enjoy media with romance or couples in it. There's a decent chance I just start crying whenever a show or movie or whatever gets onto the topic of love and families and such.
>>82612616
I like Rimworld, heavily modded.
>get attacked by local tribals in a late game colony
>send flying ship base to every nearby town of theirs
>get soldiers in position and then fire a mortar volley at it, mix of incendiary and HE
>gun down anybody who tries to resist or run
>survivors get dragged back to the base be stripped of organs and bionics, or given to allies as slaves
>every craftsman in the home city is constantly high on space meth to keep up with the demand for ammo, fuel, cash, medicine, etc.
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>>82618501
it's just upbeat optimistic folk party music, nothing special. main problem is that it got too corporate and polished, which killed the genre because millenials/genz are freakishly obsessed with ~authenticity~, whatever the fuck that means. usually old good new bad
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>get another hamster
>fall in love with it again and think it's a super genius with a personality and a super intelligent unique mind
Wow I can't wait to cry until I feel sick in a year when it dies yay age doesn't bring wisdom I'm just a groundhog day retard
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>>82621535
Get a small dog, they live around 10 to 15 years
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>>82621571
I have one of those too I'm just a freak lol
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>turned 36 recently
>currently kept happy with diet squirt, iced coffee, BF4 and driving my shitbox late at night
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>>82621529
>millenials/genz are freakishly obsessed with ~authenticity~
Is that way corporations try to act like people on social media. I saw some npc bitch post abut buy some crap using klarna and (no joke) corprate accounts kept posting shit like:
>"you go girl (insert fire emoji)"
I couldn't believe my fucking eyes.
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>>82621535
One of my gliders died on Monday :(
RIP Nacho
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>>82621716
>diet squirt,
Sometimes I wish I had squirt on demand
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>>82614793
>The weirdest propaganda was telling young people to hold off on dating
I never got that. I know many people who have done very well and dated.
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>>82610859
I have a day off from work. +7 beers for me today.
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>>82610986
The only coworker in my city was born in 2000 and I feel awkward talking to her ._.
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>>82622754
I need to buy a bottle of rum and get drunk asap, it's almost noon
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>>82622760
>The only coworker in my city was born in 2000 and I feel awkward talking to her ._.
What job only has a single coworker per city?
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>>82622760
Are you gay?
You should be able to comfortably talk to people born in 2010 if you're not gay.
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>>82617509
I'm too scared of STDs. And too happy with my porn collection. And I might just be schizoid because I just don't get touch starved.
>>82617566
Good job on bouncing back. I work out for 30mins a day, push-ups and dumbbell exercises. Went from being very skinny with no muscle to still very skinny but with pretty nice chest muscles and biceps. Can do 100 push-ups in 30mins. And I walk every day because I don't have a car, nor do I want one.
>I will say though, anon, if you don't move out of your parents house, you'll never land a good girl. I'm married and friends with lots of women and every single girl I know says a guy living at home after college is the biggest red flag in the dating world.
I know and I don't care. I want to retire early far more than I want a woman. And I can't retire early if I buy my own place. Maybe if I later find a job in another city/country, I'll rent a place, but I am 100% sure I never want to buy my own place. It's just stupidly expensive and I never want to be in debt.
And I get along great with my parents. My mom cooks almost every day and we all save lots of money by splitting bills. I have my own room so privacy isn't an issue. I really have no good reason to move out.
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>I feel like i walked into a place that had brazen fire before but i only found ashes and some glowing embers. They were warm and cool. It WAS a magic.
>I just wish i was here when it was brazen fire.
It's insane to have missed out on this shit when you were young. Still a virgin at 34 and I honestly can't bring myself to care anymore because my fire has gone out. I think it does something chemically to your brain to not have experienced that passion early on, probably turns you into a husk. You really are supposed to be fucking like a maniac before you've turned 20, not to get it out of your system but to remind yourself you're alive and compatible with other humans.

My dad got his first gf when he was 12 and she was 15. He was fucking before he was a teenager. I'm close to being 3 times his age by the time he had his first gf and I'm a kissless virgin
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>>82610859
Just want one week to myself. No wife, no kids, book leave from work. It's actually fucking insane how impossible this ask is for my life. Haven't had it in years.
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>>82624919
Talk with your wife and try to arrange it, then?
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>>82624944
I have a few times, she wants weeks alone too, just doesn't work out with work and childcare and other schedules. Plus money; arranging such things invariably costs a lot and we don't have much.
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>>82624950
Damn. In our case I'd just leave the kid with either grandparents and take 4-7 days off, coordinated with work.
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>he uses age as an excuse
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>>82612863
>enjoy watching things like Broodwar
Ah, that takes me back. I haven't followed it in too long, I should check out what's up with that game these days.
Last I checked, the foreign scene was dead, though, and I can't stand watching Artosis's stream.
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>>82617916
I often wonder why I don't see any threads for those turning 40 like myself. My younger friend told me the other day most 40+ year olds he knew on 4chan and other platforms vanished from existence after they turned that age. I do feel like its a real turning point of life, and big changes need to be made.
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getting my license so i can go on a road trip
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friday night. cigs and coke zero. maybe i go sleep early. fucking hate weekends. why cant normies be at work 24/7 if its that much fun
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>>82617509
I'm turning 40 next year but I'm too much of a sperg to meet a hooker, can't even imagine the spaghetti.

>>82624750
>My dad got his first gf when he was 12 and she was 15
That's complete bullshit, there is literally nothing a 15yo girl could see in a 12yo kid who has maybe 10 pubic hairs.
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>>82626846
>I'm turning 40 next year but I'm too much of a sperg to meet a hooker, can't even imagine the spaghetti.
fucking embarrassing.
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>>82624950
you're just a pushover retard that uses semicolons when he types online. ugly fuck, get a sack and tell them all to fuck off for a period of time
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>>82610997
Chad only - six figures, six feet, six inches. Do you meet the minimum requirements?

If yes, get the fuck out of this board.
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>>82626960
Maybe in degenerate countries this is commonplace, but it seems out of touch with reality and stems out of some sort complex about feeling excluded . Most people in real life do not engage in orgies
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>>82626960
>re**it spacing
>US flag
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>>82626960
it's so funny when a phone poster thinks they have written a long paragraph
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>>82626881
Not as embarrassing as spilling my spaghetti all over the place with a hooker would be.
Not to mention possible STDs/scams.
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>>82627083
what spaghetti exactly are you referring to would you be spilling all over the place? it's a simple process and they're used to it. even an autist can do it so i just don't believe you at all. i think fucking hookers is disgusting shit but it's something that literally anyone can do
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>women
>worth the effort

lol lmao even
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>>82627156
go back to your porn, retard incel
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>>82627198
This is a trvecel board. Sex havers out!
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>>82626960
>>82626960
is this blackpill?
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>>82627226
Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB1Ed_kvZNM
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>>82627146
>they're used to it
I would hope so, it's their job.
I'm not.
> even an autist can do it
Prove it.
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>>82627053
Which countries aren't degenerate?
>western countries
lol
lmao
>Slavic countries
Extremely low trust, everyone just uses everyone else
>Muslim countries
They fuck goats and children
>Asian countries
Used panties in vending machines in Japan
Most of SEA is filled with prostitutes
India is full of Indians
South Korea is becoming a gynarchy

China might be the only country that is at least making some effort to avoid this kind of degeneracy, but even with their censorship and control they can't stop it.
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>>82627614
There will always be male and female whores anon. All I'm saying is that pic is not representative of most people's reality. That guy is mind broken and probably terminally online
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Question
>>82627913

Please respond with good takes only
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i think i'll buy a motorcycle
it's fun and it increases my chances of dying
might even drive around in a tshirt that sounds amazing
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>>82624750
>You really are supposed to be fucking like a maniac before you've turned 20, not to get it out of your system but to remind yourself you're alive and compatible with other humans.
I lost mine at 26 and I'm still a fiend at 36. I'm making up for the lost time.
I actually enjoy sex for the physical pleasure as well as any emotional.
>>82624484
>I'm too scared of STDs
You have to wear a condom and you don't go for one that is willing to take it off. I went to a few escorts AFTER my first time because I came way too fast and I essentially learnt how to pace myself, how to get hard quickly after cumming and how to not to suck. It's a soulless expensive experience but it is fun and there's a weird novelty to having a secret rendezvous with a beautiful woman you'll be fucking. Also even if it's just work for them you can still have fun with them and talk (while recovering/getting ready).
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>>82627614
Sooo by your heckin chud logic Israel is the best nation on earth.
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>>82628361
They are western, and every bit as degenerate as the rest. That also includes Australia and New Zealand.
Also, all of Central and South America is somehow even more degenerate than western countries.
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Here's how scared I am of women
>never tried to get laid
>never installed a dating app
>never attempted to get the attention of a woman ever
>not even online on message boards or in games
35 years old and I haven't made a single attempt in life to get the attention of a woman, all out of fear.
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>>82628565
Pointless unless you explain why you're afraid.
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>>82628574
I hate myself, I'm a worthless person and have been my whole life. Never done anything I've been proud of. Dropped out of school, no education, no jobs. Nothing, I have nothing to show for my whole existence. I have no hobbies, I didn't get good at anything in all my years as a neet.

I've never given myself a single reason to have confidence or pride or anything. I don't want to be seen or heard, I don't want anyone to expect anything out of me, I don't want anybody to show interest in me because inevitably they'll be forced to find out what a big vacuum my whole life is.
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>>82628361
>Israel is the best nation on earth.
>highest concentration of pedophiles and fags per capita
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>>82628565
>>never tried to get laid
>>never installed a dating app
>>never attempted to get the attention of a woman ever
>>not even online on message boards or in games
>I'm a worthless person and have been my whole life.
Literally me.
There was a time like 10+ years ago when I used to come to /r9k/, then stopped. Literally nothing has changed since then except going through a few jobs.
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>>82628627
I think I kind of know this sense of worthlessness, shame and fear of rejection blossoming into full on avoidance and pursuit of endless dissociation and escapism. I myself can pull off interacting with others well enough if I put in the effort and I'm way less anxious around women rather than men, but it's kind of impossible to function when my actual desire when being social is to RUN and HIDE. I'm pretty sure nowadays that it stems from growing up in an emotionally unsafe, unstable and mainly unpredictable home, where seemingly anything can set a parent off, leading to constant hypervigilance and walking on eggshells, coupled with learned helplessness and passivity, where attempts to control my environment failed and the way to feel safest is to be as unnoticeable as possible and to dissociate into escapism without ever breaking the routine and mindset. Simply living what I've learned.

Despite all that one thing I've learned is that even something as simple and straightforward as locking eyes with someone you're genuinely into can make it all at least temporarily go away and make it feel like everything was worth it in the end. It's just a shame that we won't get to experience that.

Oh, well, better luck next time.
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>>82628862
>I myself can pull off interacting with others well enough if I put in the effort
me too as long as I know there's no expectation on me, and if I treat it as a passive thing where I don't want their actual attention for real and they don't want mine. If suddenly the dynamics shift and say a person shows some genuine interest beyond this casual nothing interaction then I freeze up and enter flight mode.

So in my adult life I've never allowed even myself to be into anybody, because I treat them all like they're just floating past me. I can actually remember the last time I did and it wasn't even anything serious but I remember I was 17 and there was this cute girl in my class, I tried saying hi to her once I was like "I'm gonna force myself to do it" and she didn't even notice it or she ignored me. Of course I don't blame her or anything but that was literally the last time I allowed any kind of feeling to dictate how I interacted with a woman and it was 18 years ago lol
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>>82628795
>/r9k/ user asking for help
doubt.jpg
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>>82628926
That's pretty much classic fear of rejection. You perceive yourself to be so unlikeable and unlovable, so you keep everyone at arm's length and at casual level, never letting anyone get close or get to know your real you, because you don't think anyone would actually like you if then got to know your true self, which often times creates self-confirming cycles of failing to connect due to never showing your real self, confirming the idea of not being likeable and never showing yourself. This sort of filter is fairly off-putting to people in general, where they can sense a way of artificiality, where being genuine and believable is way more agreeable and satisfying way to present yourself, but obviously it can go way too far.

I myself probably had a lot of opportunities with women, but I could never take the role of the man to seize any opportunity, though I do happen to have a terminal case of the oneitis. Nowadays I somewhat second guess the whole thing as it's been so long and it feels more like a case of limerence rather than anything else and it's not like we've been really that close or had a relationship, but there is still this lingering sensation that it just felt different than anything else. It was just so effortless and seamless in a way. Like I could actually relax and stop worrying in a way. Something I actually have an interest in, but I had no idea how to actually process it or to do anything with it. It was just there at one time and it vanished over time.

It's when my tears ran dry and it felt like sort of a Coup de grace. It seems as if I was mentally dead ever since, merely waiting for my body to catch up.
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>>82628926
>I can actually remember the last time I did and it wasn't even anything serious but I remember I was 17 and there was this cute girl in my class, I tried saying hi to her once I was like "I'm gonna force myself to do it" and she didn't even notice it or she ignored me.
The modern day Underground Man. Very comparable to how he brought a hat to show off to his school bully and gets completely ignored, not out of malice but just how people don't always notice others.
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>>82629192
>I myself probably had a lot of opportunities with women
describe what they looked like and in what ways you blew the opportunity
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>>82610859
I gave up and started writing porn. My goal is to make hundreds of people cum since no one is around to do the same for me.
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>>82629296
that's pretty based, but how will you get readers?
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>>82629382
For the moment I'm just planning on posting everywhere I can, AO3, literotica, reddit, twitter, etc. Just seeing what happens with it. If it goes nowhere, then at least I was working on my writing skills.
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>>82629192
>limerence
I feel like this has ruined a few friendships of mine because I find the woman so amazing and then start crushing hard. I come off way too needy and overbearing despite thinking I'm just matching their energy and interest they are giving me.
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>>82610859
Life's okay. Wish I had a husband/companion. I really need to go to a national forest and ocean, I can't afford therapy, it was recommended to spend 5 to 10 minutes there. The economy has tanked. People are going crazier than usual.
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>>82610859
32 in a month. things are really bad.
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32, neet since 17. i have no idea how to recover from here. the agoraphobia doesn't help.
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>>82630080
>agoraphobia
shut the fuck up, retard. you only have this bullshit made up term because you jack off all day to 4k amateur porn. just shut your fucking face, you've lived in utter comfort for a decade and a half straight, just shut your motherfucking face
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i"m going to be 39 next month. i asked a few girls at work places cockblocked i live with my parents. on a note i got into a car accident twelve years ago.
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>>82630104
you don't know me or my life whatsoever
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>>82630080
The way you overcome a fear is by confronting the thing that makes you afraid.
You overcome a fear of dogs by being around dogs and touching dogs.
You overcome the fear of being outside... by going outside.
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>34
Life is for the most part okay. Neither great or bad, just okay. There's nothing exciting going in my life to warrant getting up in arms about. Guess that's the routine of life.

I kinda wish I would get fired or something, something that would rock me out of my complacency because god knows I'm too afraid to put a match to the comfortable life I've made for myself. That's my great character fault, I'm afraid to lose what I have to the detriment of the possibility of another path through life.
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>>82630509
>Guess that's the routine of life.
I go to estate sales, I can't tell you how many houses I've been to were the person was (figuratively) stuck in time loop of routine until they DIED.
Other then a new car, food and tv, there is nothing newer then 1970 (one house it was nothing newer then the 1950s). They just lived the same day routine over and over and over, not being able to tell the difference between 1985 and 2020.
You're becoming complacent like them.
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>started getting random bouts of sudden liquid shits that don't even have the decency of making me feel a stomachache to show me they're not necessarily a fart
fucking fantastic
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>>82617509
Yeah, some faggots here need to get rid of the stigma of escorts. Just pay a bitch to fuck you and get that shit out of your system, or remove the fear of interacting with women. Bitches in today's age are waiting for no one, and you shouldn't be trying to moralize your own life, or else you will experience nothing.



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