To clarify I dont support rape, but I genuinely cant comprehend how rape is considered to be traumatising. I genuinely dont understand it. Like, you are a woman. Your body is DESIGNED for cock inside you. It is nature that decides it is necessary you receive cock. So how is someone putting their cock in you as a surprise this horrible traumatic experience? I dont support rape, I condemn it, but I dont see how its traumatic. Its literally just surprise sex isnt it.
>>82623665It's traumatic for women because most women enjoy rape and that dissonance is mind breaking to them. They're told their whole life that they are strong and independent and equals, but the moment a man overpowers them, it makes them the horniest they've ever been. I was talking to some girl a few years ago who was raped, and she would non stop bring it up and drop not so subtle hints that she wanted me to rape her, but she was ashamed of it. Women are pathetic
>>82623665it is both mentally and physically damaging. your autonomy is being violated, someone is forcing acts upon you that are supposed to be intimate. it is also physically painful obviously. going through that will hurt how you view sex and your self esteem.
>>82623665yeah i don't see how it's worse than being beaten up for example. i can see it being unpleasant, but hardly life shattering
>>82623665>Your body is DESIGNED for cock inside youwell... errm.. you see... the problem is that this an is-ought fallacyjust because her body CAN have dick in it, doesnt mean that its good for herfor example, your body is designed to survive being stabbed by pushing coagulating bloodcells to the wounded area and flooding your blood with adrenalinebut its not exactly a GOOD thing for someone to stab you... now is it? hrrmm? same thing with rape. look at it from your perspective. you sure wouldnt enjoy being gangraped by ugly violent men, would you? probably not>Its literally just surprise sex isnt it.from somone who makes you want to vomit. if its your lover who makes you cum super hard, thats a bit different than some ugly old obese guy in drag who knocked you out and raped you, isnt it?
>>82623665You have to understand that, for a woman, their slimehole tunnel between their legs is the only thing of value that they can offer to a man they like, or the only thing of value that they can use for power or control in their life. When that only thing of value is taken by force by a man, they are reminded that they truly have nothing of value that can be offered if it can simply be taken by someone with enough gall. This realization, this reveal of their true worthlessness, can be quite traumatic for some to understand if they were previously living under the delusion that they had worth. They often spend the rest of their lives trying to cope with ways to falsely convince themselves that they still have value.
>>82623692stabbing causes you injury, a dick inside does not
>>82623705mental injury is still injury. violence isnt the only type of injury that existsif you keep a child in solitary confinement form age 1 to 18, you wouldnt physically harm it. but you would cause immense irreprable mental damage that would cause them to be a walking shellemotional damage is realhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlkZ6_Th8yk
>>82623705it literally can injure you to be penetrated without your consent, rape also often involves physical violence too
It's literally because of autism. We've experienced so many things far worse than rape. Then after hearing made up lies about the details of a rape which may or may not have have happened, and the specific details are so vague, it's hard to feel sympathy.>I wanted to have sex>and he wanted to have sex too>but something something so rape>bawwwwwwAs far as I can tell it's like when you ask for extra pickles at McDonald's but then you get your order and it's the same standard 2 pickles so you feel disappointment. A woman's experience of rape is only slightly less bad than that.The difference is you as a man think>damn, they failed to follow simple instructions, I won't go to that specific location again.A woman thought>wtf he's not a psychic, mage, clairvoyant, billionaire vampire 6'69" rapist with ESPN!!!!!!!>>raaaaaaaaapaapapapaapapape
Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean, it's just sex, lmao.
>>82623765>We've experienced so many things far worse than rape.yeah sure, but its like, its still wrong to dothis is a "two wrongs make a right" logical fallacy. just because women mistreated you doesnt mean its justified to rape them or set them on fire or whatever. thats not how we behave as rational moral creatures>A woman's experience of rape is only slightly less bad than that.yeah i mean im sure theres like a spectrum right? theres a difference between rapeplay with her longtime boyfriend and it gets a bit too far then being beaten half to death by a ugly incel in some alleyway>>82623775>its JUST your freedom. whats the big deal if i enslave you and take all your rights away?>its JUST your bodily autonomy? whats the big deal if i take away all of your power?jeez the amount of hypocrisy in this threadi hate women more than all of you, but it is morally wrong, ISNT IT?
This might genuinely be the most retarded thread I have ever seen in all of my years of using this website.
>>82623716That's not mental harm, that's actually physical harm. It's called confinement.
>>82623692>you sure wouldnt enjoy being gangraped by ugly violent men, would you? probably not No but I would enjoy being gangraped by ugly violent women.
>>82624127THIS is your creme de la creme of 4chan peak retard?a thread on the moral status and nature of rape?>racebaiting threads>"im a psychopath" roleplay threads>female worship threads from shameless simps>"haha my girlfriend told me she likes pasta teehee"and this is the thread that takes the crown?
>>82624127You must've been here all summer because we have had this exact thread many many times before.
>>82623665It's only traumatic for women if it's a sub 3/10 disgusting incel who is raping them. They absolutely love to be raped by tall handsome rich men, keep in mind they literally fuck niggers and other animals just because they can sense some sort of masculinity in them, it's really strange. They write books about it too, it's called dark fantasy or something
>>82623665So you'd be okay if someone raped you then OP? You bootyhole and stretch out and hold big turds so accommodating a dick shouldn't be a big deal. You dont even have to worry about pregnancy so uou getting ass raped is even less of an issue than a woman getting raped.
>>82624127>Claims most retarded thread.>Posts no proof or reasons why.OK.
>>82623665If you make absolutely no distinction between getting into the ring, and someone punching you in the back of the head, then yes, you're retarded.Ditto if you think there's no reason for anyone to fear being dead. The body is designed that way after all.
>>82623692>same thing with rape. look at it from your perspective. you sure wouldnt enjoy being gangraped by ugly violent men, would you? probably notMaybe I would though...
>>82624008Incels by definition don't rape or beat women, retard. We don't interact with women at all because we hate women.
>>82624293Interesting idea. So you think it's perfectly OK to rape women as long as it's assrape and not vaginal.
>>82624293OP here. If I got raped I would be a little annoyed because its annoying/inconvenient but I would get over it because I dont view it as some evil. I dont think it would be very painful. Someone wanted pleasure from me and got it forcefully. They were superior and dominated me. Its the natural order of things. Rape I think its completely natural, as it occurs in nature, unironically.
Foids get wet while being raped. Like even if you could violently force a tight dry hole with your cock you'd be tearing up your own dick at the same time.They all love it, they all fantasize about it, they're all sluts. The only reason to criminalise it is because it is an insult to their husband or father, as appropriate (marital rape is a contradiction in terms).
rape is traumatizing because consent is more important consensual rape is okay and feels good non consensual rape is bad and feels bad. consent is important because making love is important, women are on average more daintier then the men they date so verbal consent is more like the guy telling the woman she wont be affected because the act itself is so primal and vigorous the slight difference in the guys frame might hurt the woman in a way she would not choose to be hurt, thereby giving her pain instead of pleasure.
>>82623665It's obvious why rape would be traumatizing to a virgin/someone in a monogamous relationship. Something valuable is being stolen from them that they can never get back. It's also easy to understand why someone would be traumatized by rape when the rape is violent, done to a child, done by a family member, done by a particularly repulsive person (homeless nigger, obese hag, etc), done in a particularly repulsive way, or done to someone who wouldn't enjoy it even if it had been consensual sex instead (mentally ill, physically disabled, gay/lesbian, etc)Though I fail to understand why a promiscuous whore would be traumatized by rape when she's already used to riding the cock carousel anyway. Nothing of value to be lost there. The punishment for rape should be harsher or more lenient depending on whether the victim was a virgin or a whore.
>>82624263Well, when you're starving eating out of the trash begins to sound appealing.
>>82624680>Someone wanted pleasure from me and got it forcefully. They were superior and dominated me. Its the natural order of things>t.
>>82624872>consensual rapeOxymoron
>>82623665>I condemn rapefaggot
>>82625100>Heh.>I'll just say he doesn't get any sex! That'll get em!
>>82625137But is pleasure an Object or Quantifiable item? Was there a loss of physical property? Like a Gold Bar stolen from a Bank?
>>82625152newfag alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!LARP LARP LARP LARP LARP
>>82623665>How is rape traumatising?Women deep down are aware that their only value comes from their hole. So when someone 'steals' their hole it breaks them. It also breaks them from their other delusions like they are equal to men.
>>82625180I don't get any sex either. Not my point.
>>82625262>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>82625488Sorry. Can't relate to your personal situation.
>>82623665I think its just that women dont want to be painfully aware of how powerless they are when a man wants to do something to them. Something like being raped is probably difficult to forget and having it constantly in your head that you cant control what happens to your body when theres a man next to you I can imagine would be pretty scary hence the trauma. Thats why a lot of women just hate men openly its because they are fearful
>>82624680but like, it would be a great hurting of your ego and prideyou wouldnt be able to see yourself as this manly man anymore, if you were forced to be the cumtoy of someone else>Rape I think its completely natural, as it occurs in nature, unironically.weak logicjust because something happens in nature, doesnt entail it OUGHT to happenthis is the is-ought gamehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is-ought_problemjust because it is natural to rape, doesnt mean rape is morally okayits natural for animals to kill their own children, but that doesnt mean killing children is okayits natural for humans to kill eachother. murder is very very natural. but that doesnt mean its okaywhats natural is NOT what is moral
Rape is from the source lol. Don't blame us for that shit we didn't invent it only youYou're a piece of shit
>>82625620Your mistake here is assuming male-on-male rape is equivalent.We're not talking about that. A woman is raped by a male.Inversely, a man is raped by woman.At no time was woman-on-woman rape mentioned. Stay on topic and equivalents.
>How is rape traumatising?Unless it's some crazy pedo incest thing, it isn't. Here's a classic r9k image.75% of foids have rape fantasies, and yes, they are biologically designed to take cock violently. They don't like taking cock from ugly short men though, so they push anti-rape stuff for their own interests.
>>82625497>newfag didnt i already tell you no?
>our doctors told us no?
>>82624680anon this post is unsettlingly erotic
>>82625197>Was there a loss of physical property?If you are a virgin yes, the loss of virginity. Also yes if you're in a monogamous relationship with someone else.
>>82625881yeah newfag and it was also unsettingly erotic when my mother did it to me when i was younger which is why the doctors told me to never date people with the same trauma as me and like sure but like ur still 14 and im still 20 and thats weird. i would not marry a 14 year old so i cannot talk to one.
>>82625889Biological proof of testing for virginity? Don't tell me it's breaking the hymen. The old wives tale.
>>82625951speak in good faith anon. your standards for proof are unreasonable>"do you have a biological proof you had friends in the 4th grade?"no, but i can tell you i didand if a man creampied your boyholes you lost your virginity to him
>>82623703Every foid deserves to be humbled like that
>>82625951Doesn't change the fact that there was a loss of physical property.
>>82625968I disagree. Totally reasonable. We're trying to establish loss of tangibility here.>boyholesNot sure why you're resorting to personal attacks here? Sounds like losing. What losers do.
>>82625997What was the physical property lost?
I think some of you may be full-blown retarded. Like need diapers and an adult, retarded.
>>82626013Virginity, retardo. Loss of virginity = loss of value.
>>82623765Your entire life is basically abuse at the hands of the uncaring masses when you're autistic. It's hard to feel that much sympathy.
>>82626037But you can't prove virginity outside of pregnancy maybe or test for it biologically so how can you prove it was "lost"? Value lost? So a Woman loses her "virginity", does it convert from a Gold Bar into a Silver Bar? Does that mean a Woman could be classed as a Property asset?
>>82626013virginity isnt physical, but its realtrust isnt physical either, but its also real cmon now
>>82623665Your male body had a prostate so it is made to receive cock in your ass, but you would still complain if you got raped in prison
I would be suicidal if I got raped. I would feel like I am powerless to do anything and that anyone, any guy could take me if he wanted to do so. Also I think I would feel like a failure, probably obsessing on how I could have prevented, what I did wrong to deserve thisIf pregnancy happened then I would jump a building no question
>>82626096Please see for detail. >>82625735
>>82626087>It's real!>I just can't prove it.OK.
>>82626119Powerless in the most empowered era? Explain how you would be powerless?
>>82626146>EmpowermentIf you think digital prostitution and being basically bare naked to appease men is empowermentHaving upper male strength and being able to kill me with bare hands or force me to be raped is actual power
>>82626082By your logic most crimes can't be proved then. One could get witnesses that know they are a virgin to testify. A NEET who never leaves his parents' house could almost certainly prove his virginity that way. >Value lost?Bad bait. Yes, virginity is valuable.
>>82626119I felt similarly even though it was just attempted rape. I admit I was in psychosis for several months over it. It really rattled me and I can't even tell you what I was doing. I was traumatized and nobody was there for me. I tried to go to family and got screeched at. It's hard
>>82626193>Woman>Pull out Phone>Instant Livestream>"Ah, he's raping me">Man's life and livelihood are instantly over.Maybe physical strength was a power about 100 years ago.
>>82626252>pull out phone>man far stronger than you rips it out of your hands>likely beats you with it before breaking it>now you're being raped and have no way to call for a ride home after.
>>82623665>How is getting beat up while being forced to do something you don't want to do traumatizing.
>>82626200The greatest feminist minds see it only as a social construct. Not valuable. You would argue with their findings and research? www.youngfeminist.eu
>>82626289How did your clothes come off so quickly in this scenario?
>>82623665Legal and profitable circumcision of minor males invalidates the idea of rape altogether. Rape is not a thing because you can't define it. It doesn't exist.
>>82626299Why would I care what feminists think?
>>82626344The research and findings. Didn't say anything about their thoughts.