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>Agree on 90% of issues
>Hate each others guts
What causes this?
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>>82624316
like niggers, too much estrogen
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>>82624316
Unlike rightoids leftists arent a hive mind that need a great leader to endlessly dick suck. I know it must be a strange concept that you can be on the same side but disagree but try to use what little intellect you have to imagine not being in a cult larping as nazis.
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>>82624316
They purity spiral like noone else. A big chunk of being a leftist is virtue signalling so one upping eachother is order of the day.
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>>82624341
you sound like a low iq nigger who has no idea what he's talking about and should have his kids raped and killed by niggers and mudslimes. Kill yourself kike.
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>>82624341
>be JK Rowling
>be leftist
>support Labour Party
>have one issue (transgenderism) that people don't agree with
>be demonized
>can't ally with other leftists on other issues
>get stuck only working on the one thing people don't agree with
>be further demonized
I'm still not buying any Harry Potter stuff, but a little forgiveness could have gone a long way.
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>>82624341
i thought everyone knew rightwingers go at each other's throats over shit like israel
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Vaush is a libsoc, i.e. communist, and Destiny is a bog standard dem who has made it his mission to defend the ultra pro-Israel do-nothing Democratic leadership no matter the cost (along with sexually predating women and children). If you think they agree on basically everything, think harder.
>>82624382
Which rightoid pundits hate Trump right now? Tucker Carlson's criticisms are incredibly tepid. Fuentes is an irrelevant flick of dust in comparison, and his only prominent moments were when he acted like he loves Trump.
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>>82624377
Or graham linehan who was a lefty writer (father ted), supported jkrowling and got arrested in the uk a few weeks ago over a tranny tweet.
He once said
>Also, reality has a left-wing bias, and writers tend to deal with the real world.
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>>82624422
tbf we were talking about destiny and vaush and nick fuentes is absolutely on their level
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>>82624316
Leftism is a mental illness and sign of profound mental retardation. Daily reminder that the communists in Weimar Germany thought the Social Democrats were worse than the Nazis
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just so you remember both these people are pedophile perverts and that's why they are on the left just like nazi propaganda
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>>82624429
Everyone knows that the UK doesn't have free speech, though. That's one of the reasons why the USA even exists.
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>>82624479
it's like gee everyone who hates hitler is a gay pedophile huh that's what we need
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>>82624316
the jews did this
unique
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>>82624452
Fuentes is 1 example, but you get exponentially more attention when you just dickride Trump/Israel 24/7, which is why he flipflops. It's extremely common for progressives to criticize the establishment dems and remain consistent on it.
>>82624479
The Vaush "loli" shit wasn't actually loli. Destiny did solicit CP, of course, but she wasn't all that young, though he did admit to getting an 8-year-old to wave around his dick to him. I'm less sure about that one.
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Left wing people have intellectual honesty and the courage of their convictions. Righttards will suck Trump's dick whether they're libertarian anarchocapitalist cybertroons who want to euthanize the blacks or Evangelical preachers who want to ban contraception, because they are, one and all, cretinous cowards who crave to lick the boot.
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>>82624537
>Fuentes is 1 example, but you get exponentially more attention when you just dickride Trump/Israel 24/7, which is why he flipflops. It's extremely common for progressives to criticize the establishment dems and remain consistent on it.
That's just not true talking about the "JQ" is a massive grift right now and fuentes is getting eaten alive by them for even suggesting charlie kirk was not killed by israel lol
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>>82624560
Give a list of the anti-Trump pundits
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>>82624316
that 10% can be liking rape of little children which is something vaush is actually into
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>>82624567
we've been talking about israel and no im not spoonfeeding you when it's super easy to look up
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Well in the case of Destiny, it's because he's an unbridled sociopath
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it's just them doing their gay little banter
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>>82624584
>it's super easy to look up
They simply don't exist lol. Dave Smith pretended to be anti-Trump for a week but came back licking his cock. Even Tucker Carlson said he loves Israel but just didn't want the war in Iran (basically nobody did).
The people who supposedly hate Israel but not enough to not vote for and dickride Trump/every Republican politician symbolizes perfectly the fake internal disagreements of the right.
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>>82624627
Extremely confusing that you don't think there are actually people on the right that hate jews lol I feel like we live in a different world. especially when we're talking about literal streamers but you keep on bringing up tucker carlson
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>>82624702
But mainstream liberal pundits can still easily criticize the establishment dems. My point wasn't Fuentes actually loves Trump/Israel, but his prominence exponentially grows when he's soft on Trump/Israel. I'd agree some other small streamers do hate Jews, but any form of popularity among the right demands you suck off Trump and only tepidly criticize Israel at worst. If you just want to say you can be irrelevant and hate Jews and call yourself right-wing, that's fine.
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>>82624316
Vaush is unironically a dumb smug motherfucker
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>>82624316
You know that meme about how a Communist sees another man about to kill himself and stops him, then asks him what kind of Communist he is, and eventually pushes him to his death once he reveals he's not a Marxist-Lennist-Maoist or whatever? They're all like that. You have to follow their thoughts 100% of else you're a liberal, or a counter-revolutionary or whatever. Somehow, the Chinese Communists realized that allying with the Kuomintang (unironic fascist at the time) was at least situationally useful, but the Soviets hated Maoism and offered no material support to their cause. Even without the FBI intervening, the Black Panthers would have fallen apart due to infighting. There's no such thing as unity on the left.

More right leaning people are at least willing to play nice for a while and accept more moderate elements (so long as they don't go far the other way)
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>>82624773
Exactly. The right falls 100% in-line with whoever the leader is chosen to be, no matter how useless they are.
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>>82624744
>but his prominence exponentially grows when he's soft on Trump/Israel.
Your turn to prove it lol because from what i've it's the opposite and his infamy comes from being suppressed by neocons for his anti-israel opinions. It's how he became famous in the first place.
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>>82624807
>Fuentes at J6
>celebrating Trump's victory "your body my choice"
>dinner with Trump where he dickrides him
>saying Jews are great on PBD
>clinking glasses with Laura Loomer
>sucking off Charlie Kirk after years of undying hatred for him
He's very blanketly a chameleon to get mainstream moments. Now he is hated by relevant pundits like Tucker for him hating Jews, but that's not really a point for him growing based on that.
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>>82624887
>he gets more views when he shows up for major historical events
holy shit.... shocking stuff
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>>82624903
>no argument
I accept your concession dough
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>>82624422
>libsoc, i.e. communist

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Lmao, rightoids really don't know shit.
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>>82624918
He also calls himself a communist. There are like 3000 different flavors of communism, and they'll all never happen in our lifetimes.
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>>82624913
>but his prominence exponentially grows when he's soft on Trump/Israel.
>because uh he was at january 6 or something
>because uh after charlie kirk died he had lots of viewers or something
how do you not see how retarded this is. It has nothing to do with being soft on anything.
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>>82624938
Obviously, being a J6er means you worship Trump's word (or at least pretend to) after Fuentes was a supposed critic. Same with dickriding Charlie Kirk whose sole purpose in life was acting as a defender of Trump/Israel. Didn't say anything about getting more fake Rumble views after he died, though, illiterate.
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>avatarfag
opinion discarded
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>>82624960
>but his prominence exponentially grows when he's soft on Trump/Israel
>doesn't understand basic cause/effect (the "prominence" had nothing to do with being soft on anything and everything to do with showing up to a historical event)
>still can't prove anything when pressed
>muh fake rumble views or something
I accept your concession dough
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This discourse is performative and is done for dramatic effect
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>>82624316
Its the bisexual vs pansexual tension
Aka anon they want to have hot sex desi
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>>82625000
All remotely prominent Republican events are going to be pro-Trump, so acting pro-Trump will give you access. Fuentes was supposedly anti-Trump but still pretended to believe the obvious lie that the election was rigged to gain more prominence. What part of those statements do you not agree with?
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>>82624316
legit just edrama cancer. they should be friends but being online gives you legit fucking brainrot and like an ego problem from having so many fans and you think youre like a fucking god. vaush literally had a "fortress arc" meaning he just didnt talk to anyone and circlejerked his core audience

they should just be friends. fuck you
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>>82624316
Leftists are crazy.
From crazy people you can expect irrational behavior.
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Posting the real Overton window
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>>82624316
I once saw a convincing explaination that went something like this:
People on the right usually see their ideology in service of some other manifestation of their identity, be it their race, nationality, religion or whatever
Therefore, as long as there's loyalty to that identity they're more willing to tolerate deviations to their ideology which to them is just means to an end
Leftists however tend to care a lot less about ethnic identity, ideology takes a much more central role in their mindset, so it's obvious that when ideology is the only thing that binds you together even minor deviations on it are a much bigger deal
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>>82625303
How does a right to a job work in practice?
How does the right of every family to have a decent home work in practice?
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The purity spiraling of the left has done a great job at diluting the right with centrists.
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>>82626135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-5UGXJcNwQ
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>>82624341
>Unlike rightoids leftists arent a hive mind
meanwhile back in reality: it's the other way around
>https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665
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How is it that Piers Morgan's the one who consistently clowns on Destiny?
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>>82624377
JK Rowling pays attention

>pre Bruce-Jenner in Vanity Fair, trannies aren't a thing. an obscure porn genre. A Monty Python joke.
>suddenly the world needs to have an opinion on transgenderism and people will fight you over it

No reasonable person has a grievance with Rowling, only the internet and its phony Tumblr crusaders moralizing over something they just made up. Transsexuals aren't a political stance. The fact that we accept that it is, is because of a marketing ploy to distract you from actual issues.
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>>82624316
It is like the feud between Kirk and Fuentes. They technically agree on a lot, but the part they disagree with matter most because it decides the direction their party will take
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because they need money so they farm each other for drama to make videos and rile up their audiences so they can get views.
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>>82627155
>because they need money so they farm each other for drama
Tiny could be lying out if his ass like he always does, but he said at a retard "debate" event that he got "broadly demonitized" on youtube. So idk how he even makes money now beyond sucking dick for meth
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>>82627135
>trannies didn't exist before 2015
Newfag
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>>82624316
>Vaush
>Destiny
>left-wing
It's crazy how the only actually popular left-wing creator is Hasan Piker and people hate him for no reason other than petty grievances.
I genuinely don't get why people watch Destiny or Vaush. Maybe if I was a weird short poly white dude I'd finally understand.
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>>82626135
>How does the right of every family to have a decent home work in practice?

See: United States of America 1939-1979
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>>82627277
i'd suck her dick ngl
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>>82627244
>an obscure porn genre, a joke
I understand they were there. I still have my Linetrap collection from /b/. The general public wasn't talking about transsexuals every day. That's simply a fact.
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there was a point when i never got Let's Plays. 'why would you watch someone else play a game?' and all that. changed my mind.

but i cannot think of anything more grating than 'watching internet personalities debate politics'.
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>>82627273
>people hate him for no reason
The only "likeable" thing about hasan is his political opinions, otherwise he's just every douche jock faggot with a trustfund who peaked in high school.
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>>82627273
hasan piker is a homosexual communist who nobody who is normal and functioning likes.
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>>82627338
>he's just every douche jock faggot with a trustfund who peaked in high school.
see >>82627273
>>82627341
see >>82627273
again, the only thing people can point out about why they dislike him is petty grievances and that he's more attractive than them. is that why you fags like destiny and vaush, because they're ugly and disheveled?
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yuty
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>>82627315
>The general public wasn't talking about transsexuals every day. That's simply a fact.
I don't know anyone in the general public who just starts talking about trannies.
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>>82624316
>in america a anarchist and a liberal agree on 90% of issues
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Self hatred causes this.
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>>82624553
>destiny
>intellectual honesty
Good one
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>>82624316
>>Agree on 90% of issues
they often disagree with each other.

>t. former /pol/nigger
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>>82624316
Destiny is a hardcore zionist, and Vaush jerks off to children being raped by horses. Both of them are terrible.
Hasan is the only lefty tuber I kinda respect, he may be anti White, but he got the entire zoomer generation to hate isreal.
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>>82627273
hassan is a turk roach that said america deserved 9/11 and is clearly some kind of plant considering that NYT article calling him a "progressive mind in a maga body"
saying it's over petty grievances is delusional, he's the face of the dissident left trying to get the people in this country used to non-white immigration and anti-white policies in general
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>>82628442
>said america deserved 9/11
Where's the lie?
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>>82628536
Thanks for proving my point about why the hate for this guy is warranted. You have no room for an argument about why the country deserved that tragedy and defending comments like that just outs you as immature at best and a dumbass at worst.
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>>82624316
Vaush
>Demsoc who keeps his channel because he doesn't advocate anything controversial. Pro migration, pro taxation,
Destiny
>Will do anything to support Israel, arguably centre left on most issues, insufferable, generally doesn't have a stance on most issues just 'anti right wing'
Me
>Explicitly against internationalism and migration, pro seizing the means of production, technocratic eco-socialist

ive been a fucking Nazi before. The difference is that the left is not interested in cults of personality. They will "eat their own" if their own sucks. You know how Nazis laughed about Charlie Kirk? Well, I also fucking hate destiny and would do the same if it happened to him
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>>82628623
Do you understand the concept of blowback?
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>>82628628
Clearly you don't since you're looking for a cheap gotcha
"the unintended adverse results of a political action or situation." - google search
key word being "unintended"
Don't play dumb and act like disagreeing with foreign policy worked as justification for killing shy of 3,000 people and demolishing some of the country's most beloved skyscrapers
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>>82628692
So 9/11 was intended by America and that's why Hasan's wrong?
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>>82628625
you are a internet larper and at best a sympathizer,"technocratic eco-socialist" lmao that dosent exist there isint a single organization that promotes this and i can bet you werent ever a member of any political organization neither a socialist one nor a nazi one,you were just arguing online with a different flag.
In russia dorks like you atleast get together to form shitty parties and do irl politics.
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>>82624422
>Fuentes is an irrelevant flick of dust in comparison,
You know Fuentes is repeatedly on national news and has met with Trump in person, literally eating at a private meme blowout dinner with Trump.
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>>82628735
It's clear that you're trolling now so I'll make this quick
You're obviously misconstruing my words here so make this as clear as I can: America as a country NEVER asked for a terrorist attack on it's own soil and you have nothing that says it does. Hassan is in the wrong for so brazenly and heartlessly asserting that "America deserved 9/11" when it didn't. Being sympathetic to terrorists and having ill regard for innocent Americans does not make him, or you for that matter, virtuous.
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>>82628778
And he was instantly disavowed and Trump said he had no clue who he was
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>>82628811
>NEVER asked for a terrorist attack on it's own soil
Correct, but they deserved one for continued meddling in the middle east after being warned. I don't
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>>82624316
>What causes this?
Identity politics.
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>>82624316
Destiny is a pretty standard pre-Trump conservative.
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>>82628870
Still playing coy. America's foreign policy in the middle east still does not make 9/11 "deserved"
>meddling
Again, this is just ignorant to the situation. If you really took a closer look at the sitatuation then you'd see that Washington's aims in the middle east were about preserving peace and cooperating with regional allies. That included funding/arming the gulf states and Israel along with maritime efforts to keep trade routes safe. Just because a gaggle of islamist terrorists were critical of that foreign policy (particularly on Israel), it doesn't mean that the country's worst national tragedy was warranted. Irrational criminals made a spectacle of themselves and now years later some e-celeb who doesn't even care about the country is allowed to be a revisionist and frame the country as some force of evil? Very poor taste and it's the correct position to dislike him for that, especially when you consider he didn't say that in jest. Enough is enough, you really have to be an idiot to agree with his position.
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>>82624316
This happens on the right as well, they'll agree on most issues but then fall out because they're part of the wrong brand of christianity. It's just an aspect of extreme politics because extremists are neurotic mentally ill weirdos with god complexes
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>>82628944
Do you think he meant the Americans who died deserved it? If so, I understand your moralfaggotry. He's repeatedly stated otherwise, though.
>Bush was just a peaceful lil goober we didn't mean no harm
lol
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>>82628990
This is moving the goalpost: now it's the government that deserved it, not the people. Still doesn't work that way when you consider that the government is intended to be representative of the people.
You're also choosing to remain ignorant by insisting that the Bush administration specifically did not want peace. If anything, that administation's response to the attacks was justified. Who's to blame here? Washington for wanting to maintain peace in the middle east and north africa while benefitting the American people or traibalist, islamist warlords that just so happened to be ciritical of America's foreign policy?
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>>82629028
"America" meaning the government or its people is ambiguous. If you want to be offended, you'll be offended. If you aren't extremely cynical of the Bush admin, I can't help you.
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politics is gay aside from communist theory.

Mao 3rdism especially
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>>82624341
I love when leftists describe themselves

Go back to blue sky you faggot. We won.

1488
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>>82624377
Shutup you fucking troon.
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they're just extremely malevolent demons so naturally they go after eachother at the first sign of weakness
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>>82624316
They're competing for the same audience.
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>>82629254
>rightwingers saying this
At least you could be self aware about your own ideology, you're literally the side of eugenics.
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>>82624341
You're a retard and you don't know what you are talking about. You'd know that's not true if you knew anything about the right and didn't form your views on them hearing the opinions of faggots like Hasan Piker. It's so obviously not true, to anyone who paid any attention that last 8 years to anything that wasn't the most controlled mainstream flow of information, like literally any attention outside of that would have shown you this.
The alt-right, the groyper war, "wignats", propertarians, "miga", Trumpists, "never trumper conservatives" "conservatives", mainstream conservatism, the pro-israel and anti-israel right, etc. These are all groups which have had disputes, terms like "wignat", which means wigger nationalist, came from people on the right like Nick Fuentes to describe elements of the "dissident right"/alt-right, whateve you wanna call it, that had no optics and did protests adopting nazi symbols, like the swastika, or stupid shit like kkk outfits, and the "groyper war" was a whole thing of that same sort going against mainstream conservatism. MIGA (make israel great again), is a term people on the right that didn't like Trump for not fullfilling his promises in 2016, and his relations with Israel, started using (really big thing in dissident right wing spheres by the way, and was used on /pol/ a lot but you wouldn't know because you're a faggot).

Even in literally the last fucking year there's been so much. The arguments between what people call the "BAPsphere" (Bronze Age Pervert) and other elements of the right has been out in the open, the dislike for Curtis Yarvin and the whole Palantir element, etc.

You are just flat out dumb and wrong, and you have no nuance, but, I wouldn't expect much from people. Most people are mentally fucking retarded and proud of their incredulity, because they were given a narrative by faggots and to them that suffices.

Just admit you're a fuckin newfag and go choke on shit by the way you leftoid retard.
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>>82629165
You liker trans porn.
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>>82628625
So basically you're another
>Brown people bad!
>Gibs for white people! We own the world!!!
type moron??
Cool.
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>>82624316
If people don't agree with you on 100% of things that might mean you're not right about 100% of things and that's a problem
It's called being self righteous and having a hero complex
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>>82629315
And even people who are increasingly mainstream, like Nick Fuentes, have openly dissavowed Trump countless times, Nick being a "right wing" figure, who you imply "worships Trump", and this is RECENT, this isn't even remotely niche (nether were the older examples but it's so forgotten now I wouldn't blame you for not knowing what the fuck a propertarian is).

You're probem isn't entirely that you are retarded or some such thing, it's that you let your views of things be dictates by fucking retards. You preclude yourself from even ascending to real discussion.
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>>82629315
>never trumper conservatives
JD Vance was one, both him and RFK Jr called Trump Hitler. In the end, you always cave to dicklicking Trump if you want any semblance of relevance.
Yes, /pol/ doesn't agree with Trump on literally everything right now because he's a senile incompetent child rapist who only stands for Israel and giving more money to rich, but that's partially why your whole lot is irrelevant. There's no remotely permissible alternative on the right to MIGA.
>>82629373
Nick is about as mainstream as Destiny. He's probably the biggest anti-Trump right-wing pundit, but he's still insanely small.
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Destiny and his community haven't gotten so retarded in the past year or two. The TDS seems to have infected them. I check his subreddit just to laugh at them every once in a while. A week ago some destiny fan got fired from his job and challenged his employer to a debate. Some other youtuber called them out on it and they made a fake community note on X saying the guy was a false flagger trying to make destiny look bad because of posts he made on reddit several years ago. Of course the guy came out and said he actually was a destiny fan but destiny and his fans never brought it up again.

Also 2 days ago I saw them post the shoe on head vid about charlie kirk and she shows all these unhinged leftists celebrating his death. His community proceeded to claim these people were just a tiny minority of the dumbest leftists and were all just cherry picked. I scrolled down and saw a post made the same day that had a girl celebrating his death in the same way and all the comments, from the same community claiming "no one is actually celebrating his death", were saying "BASED" and "I want to marry her".
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>>82629460
>TDS
Destiny has been incredibly anti-Trump since 2016. I assume you just saw clip compies of him defending Israel or Rittenhouse while shitting on the left and thought he thought Trump was pretty based somehow.
>unhinged leftists celebrating his death
Why are there so many moralfag normalcattle here today? Yes, I was ecstatic Kirk was publicly executed. If Tiny didn't celebrate his death, he definitely said much worse things by saying conservatives need to be afraid of being gunned down. He's always been a batshit insane sociopath. Before he went from lolbertarian to left-wing he planned to murder a kid and his dad because the kid ddos'd him a few times.
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>>82629496
>>TDS
>Destiny has been incredibly anti-Trump since 2016
so you're just admitting he has TDS lmao
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>>82629499
What criticism of Trump was deranged? MIGAts just say anyone who doesn't salute Israel/Trump 100% have TDS to deflect from any form of argument.
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>>82629460
>A week ago some destiny fan got fired from his job and challenged his employer to a debate.
LMAOOOO WHAT

this cannot be real. even desTINY fans aren't that stupid are they
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>>82629496
>Destiny has been incredibly anti-Trump since 2016. I assume you just saw clip compies of him defending Israel or Rittenhouse while shitting on the left and thought he thought Trump was pretty based somehow
No I saw more than clips, but you're partially right about the rittenhouse thing. I knew he was always a liberal, but back then he at least had consistent principles, so I had a modicum of respect for him. If the Rittenhouse thing happened today, he would refuse to side with Kyle because he doesn't want to give an inch to the "opposition". In his eyes, his "side" has to win in every scenario and so he will say whatever it takes and die on the most retarded hills like unironically denying the the kirk shooter was a leftist.
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>>82624316
>Agree on 90% of issues
except they don't, more like 75%
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>>82624316
It always has been this way and always will. Even as the Nazis took over, German lefties were leaking their enemies headquarters to the Gestapo.

And it makes sense if you think about it. The ruling class wouldn't have survived this long if their wagies couldn't be divided and conquered.
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>>82629535
>he doesn't want to give an inch to the "opposition".
No. Support for Israel is at like 8% for Dems and 80% for Republicans, and Destiny has persistently been a stalwart defender of the daily child massacres despite that. His politics simply encompass wanting to trigger anyone 1 cm left of Kamala Harris with some balance of defending establishment Democrats.
>the kirk shooter was a leftist
What's your evidence?
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>>82629606
you don't actually listen to destiny do you...it's just a joke right?
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>OP asks question specifically about Leftist infighting
>people come in to throw tantrums about the Right

What causes this behavior?
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>>82629611
>OP asks question specifically about Leftist infighting
>people come in to throw tantrums about the Right
You haven't noticed this before?

libtards are INCAPABLE of taking ANY criticism, no matter how mild. Any time you criticize anything at all they will ALWAYS and immediately pivot to talking about right/republicans/whatever.

test it sometime. once you see it you cannot unsee it.
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>>82629610
I have listened to him in the past, mostly before Nov 2022 when it became obvious his primary goals were using and abusing mentally ill whores, and I absolutely despise him now. If he was shot dead instead of Kirk I would've celebrated way more.
>>82629611
>>82629632
I answered the question very early in the thread without deflecting. OP's question is based on false pretenses.
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>>82629650
>OP's question is based on false pretenses.
no it's not, you're just a disingenuous libshit.
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>>82629655
Care to make any form of argument?
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>>82629404
>In the end, you
Nope literally talking about JD Vance, I'm not JD Vance, I'm not a mainstream establishment conservative like Ben Shapiro (another example by the way, of a figure for whom there's dispute, particularly in relation to the Israel subject), these examples prove nothing and are grasping at straws.
>>82629404
>Nick is about as mainstream as Destiny. He's probably the biggest anti-Trump right-wing pundit, but he's still insanely small.
This is getting in the realm of retarded semantics, and similar things could be directed right back at you, but I'd argue he's even more mainstream, with his acknowledgemments from even the most mainstream of figures in that realm. Doesn't even matter at the end of the day. You are still wrong and basically a newfag secondary as far as any of these things go, below the level of discussion, undeniably so given the sheer quantity of examples to the contrary of what you are saying.

Once again, no nuance, your familiarity with these things obviously was formed based on the last few years with with a limited scope of the past, if you had any at all. No honest person could come to the conclusion you did short of what can be boiled down to newfaggotry.
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>>82629661
what's the point in arguing with you when you're clearly not arguing in good faith?

I don't even get debate club points for mopping the floor with your stupid ass.
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Leftoids would be better used ground into paste with their bones turned into concrete alloy for infrastructure LOL.
Figures like Hassan Kiker especially, put that guy in a bridge LOL.
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>>82629683
unironically true though
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as an aside, the end of science according to black science man!
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>>82629669
>Ben Shapiro
Another perfect example, completely hyper-partisan hack who 180'd his opinions on J6 and tariffs to cater to Trump.
Multiple top officials flipping on Trump to gain prominence in the government aren't relevant? Care to explain how?
>"the sheer quantity of examples to the contrary"
>none given
lol what
>you aren't a permavirgin NEET who's pushing 40 and has been here for decades, I don't need reasoning to argue with you
lol
>>82629679
>no argument
I accept your concession.
>>82629683
Someone's mad.
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Just won a debate with a desTINY fan

too easy!
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>>82624800
I'm a White nationalist. Who should I have voted for in 2024: Trump or Kamala?
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>>82628924
>Destiny is a pretty standard pre-Trump conservative.

You have a mental illness
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>>82629724
obviously kamala to keep the border wide open duh do you even richard spencer bro
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>>82624341
Leftists are LITERALLY a hive mind! And you're not going to convince me otherwise like you tried to do with that whole Charlie Kirk shooter was a right wing guy bullshit. The reason that is in fighting is because they're trying to maintain the hive mind you fucking dolt.
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>>82629717
Are you trans? And who should I have voted for: Kamala Harris or Donald Trump in 2024?
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>>82629766
No. If you're a white nationalist you can potentially justify preferring Trump over Kamala but that doesn't justify perpetually dickriding Trump as the right does 99.9% of the time. When I mean the right I'm of course talking in general cases, you guys are obviously such a microscopic fraction it doesn't weigh in those statements.
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Unironically diversity of opinions
Destiny is a liberal who fundamentally does not want to change the status quo. He is a democrat, and whether you like it or not from a global perspective democrats are right wing. Think about it, they might love gays and trannies but at the end of the day they're going to drop bombs on kids with little pride flags painted on them to the benefit of their corporate sponsers. Even the most (((left wing))) political candidates that get memed on for being communists become Israel shills the moment they get elected.
Vaush (((claims))) to be an anarchist while still being a status quo shill. Ask yourself: what kind of anarchist believes in nato dominance? Vaush's politics come down to social damage control. I think he only cares about his platform and gratifying his self image.
Rightoids should consider asking themselves if some people who say they are leftists really are by looking at their actual opinions. It's been a long time since I've paid any attention to these retards but using them as examples of leftist infighting is pretty dumb. An example of leftist infighting would be something like Marxist Leninists insisting their politics is scientific vs anyone who doesn't agree which is probably every other camp. USSR apologism is another contentious issue on the left.
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>>82629717
>Another perfect example
To my very fucking point, not yours, the right is not a monolith and your stupid partisan exeptions do not prove that. You suggested the right is a monolith, you are wrong. Ben Shapiro, and his org Daily Wire are ABUNDANTLY criticised by the dissident right and have ben for YEARS. Even that example alone is proof to the contrary of what you said, but it's only one example in a sea of them. Again, you don't know what you are talking about, you are a newfag, you have 0 familiarity with what the discourse was before the last few years because if you had you wouldn't say
>Unlike rightoids leftists arent a hive mind that need a great leader to endlessly dick suck.
because it's brazenly obviously retarded and false.
>>82629717
>>"the sheer quantity of examples to the contrary"
>>none given
>lol what
Literally this post retard >>82629315, you know the first one you responded to in our discussion dumbass.
>Groyper war/Groypers vs. establishment conservatism
>lolbertarians
>propertarians
>alt-right vs alt-lite
>alt-right vs Nick Fuentes/groyper right
>anti-Trump right (still going btw faggot, open your eyes)
>anti-palantir vs pro palantir
>bapsphere
>wignats
>migapedes
These aren't even niche things in those spheres. Some dated, like the lobert thing (who even argues about that these days [not that you'd ever be able to answer that]). Once again, the right is not a monolith. You don't even know how politics works.
>Someone's mad.
That was my post, and I was actually enjoying myself, comfy even, albeit your boneheadednes has taken me out of that somewhat.
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>>82629784
>but that doesn't justify perpetually dickriding Trump

Yes, it absolutely does when it's Trump or literally Kamala Harris. If someone came along who was further right, then I would vote for him. But that's not the reality. Jesus, your entire criticism is that right-wingers are realistic in supporting Trump, and your point is irrelevant when leftists have virtually no disagreement in social surveys. Divorce yourself from TDS, tranny pseud.
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>>82624316
>clips
>40 minutes long video
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>>82629811
>ryan's gun

This is DEEP lore. Do you have the original video?
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>>82629837
SADLY I don't. I tried to find it.
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>>82629835
i dont think that conversation will normally end up the way this pictures illustrates
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>>82629844
I miss his streaming arc. It's good to see a fellow Faulkian in the wild.
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>>82629811
The "dissident right" aren't relevant in any way shape or form. By your reasoning, no party could ever feasibly be a monolith because of microscopic disagreements that end up affecting nothing. Every single relevant person in right-wing politics, if they have disagreements with Trump, keep them very quiet or 180 to cater to Trump. Obviously, I'm not talking about pre-Trump.
>>82629824
>it's Trump or literally Kamala Harris.
The election was almost a year ago. What do you get out of dickriding Trump right now with the infinite money for Israel, 600k chinese students, destroying abortion, bailing out argentina for 20 billion, bombing venezuela, bombing iran, deporting students for criticizing Israel, increasing costs everywhere, etc.? None of this is my entire criticism of right-wingers, lmao
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>>82629811
Do JQers actually think they have any say in American politics? holy shit lmfao
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>>82629876
It's old and irrlevant now to be fair lol, like 2016 tier, I just had it saved and felt like shitposting it.
>>82629885
>The "dissident right" aren't relevant in any way shape or form. By your reasoning, no party could ever feasibly be a monolith because of microscopic disagreements that end up affecting nothing. Every single relevant person in right-wing politics, if they have disagreements with Trump, keep them very quiet or 180 to cater to Trump. Obviously, I'm not talking about pre-Trump.
You are grasping at straws, literally not a word of that is relevant. Your claim was proven false, you were given significant examples to the contrary, you don't know how politics even works or functions (the extent to which there are monoliths is in part a necesarry function of the 2 party dichotomy).
>>82629893
Did I say JQers? NO! I said pro/anti-Israel, which is a PRETTY BIG THING NOW, even on the left! Thank you for also pointing out another example of a contrary point to that Anon's claim! The dispute between "JQers" and those who see the extent to which there's a jewish problem as purely an issue of the nation state of Israel.
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>>82629885
>infinite money for Israel
Not a deal-breaker
>600k chinese students
Wtf? He was talking about student visas that already existed, and not an expansion.
>destroying abortion
I voted for this.
>bailing out argentina for 20 billion
Not a deal breaker
>bombing venezuela
This never happened, and bombing drug traffickers is what I voted for.
>bombing iran
Still not a deal breaker.
>deporting students for criticizing Israel
I don't give a fuck lol. Most of these people hate me for being White too.
>increasing costs everywhere, etc.?
Something that isn't happening. CPI is way down, and import prices never went up.

Jesus, fuck, are you sure that you aren't still a tiny fan? That's all he does: gish gallop. My chief issue is mass deportations: that is by far the first and foremost issue of mine.
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I take back what I said about the leftist turned into paste and steamroller thing lol. It was a rhetorical shitpost but maybe too bad taste.
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>>82630005
I thought it was good taste
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>>82624316
Both these guys are retards and grifters, they aren't left wing political units they're YouTubers, and YouTubers involve themselves in drama
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>>82630005
and on that note, apologies for my insults and harshness. I stand by that >>82629885 your claim was completely wrong, and that you are evidently lacking a significant amount knowledge about the entire scene, which would have been to one degree or another extremely apparent with just experience of prior years and seeing the goings on.

I think there's a real problem of a lack of that kind of a greater context when it comes to these things. I happen to be someone who saw a lot of it, and gathered even things prior to my time when it wsa still largely accessible. I find it a little annoying at times, only because the extent that people limit their scopes, is to some degree, a personal decision. It's a forgivable and understandable one, but ideally one not made. They decide on a narrative and then make that their point of view, because it's expedient and it's elements sound like they go nice together, but is it really in allignment with the truth? Was it born of truth? I have so many times seen this manifest as enmity with innocence, and the demonization of the innocent under false pretenses, and really enmity with truth itself. It's often times just wrong to a degree that's insulting to the intellect, especially when people speak so authoritatively about that which they obviously don't know about.
>>82630099
Part of me agrees LOL.
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>>82624316
are you american? i ask because youd have to be pretty fucking indoctrinated to think either of those people are leftists, theyre liberals.

what an embarrassing thing for you to put out into the world
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>>82628442
as a country, america did deserve 911, he is right. it was the consequence of constant american foreign policy that mass murdered people and overthrew democratically elected governments to further the interests of american hegemony. it turns out that the people whose countries you fuck up with shit like operation condor dont enjoy you mass murdering them and overthrowing their governments.

the innocent people didnt deserve 911, but america as a whole absolutely did, which was hasans actual point.
problem is that youve spent your entire life sucking down the most insidious propanda this side of north korea, and in typical american fashion, youre utterly incapable of introspection
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Are we still doing the 'liberals and leftists are the same' thing in 2025. Has political discourse really not evolved.
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>>82630731
most of the people here come from america, a place where a good portion of their major media outlets consider the fucking democrats to be radical leftists

how much real understanding do you expect some of the worlds most egotistical, incurious, and intellectually lazy people to have? the fact that many of them have mastered pants is impressive as hell to me
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>>82629028
This is why I say that people who are against Hasan only care about petty grievances. Just rightoids who have no real political positions and don't understand their material positions. You don't actually care about anything that matters, you're just a retard who thinks if America is white-only all of your problems will be solved. Not the problems of unemployment, degrading labor laws, healthcare, or having your basic needs met--because you won't care about those things until they affect you--but the "problems" of seeing minorities in some slop movie.

"America deserved 9/11" is just another way to say that chickens have come home to roost. Maybe don't interfere in other countries affairs or destabilize their societies and something like 9/11 won't happen. You can't be a leftist and believe that's incorrect.

>>82629049
"America deserved 9/11" is referring to the imperial genocidal entity that is America. Hasan implied the United State's foreign policy of arming insurgent groups and the overall meddling in the Middle East was the factor as to why 9/11 happened. That tard anon is being willfully ignorant.
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>>82624316
vaush send me his news in discord dms once, he has a nice cock



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