>>82633113
It's selfish to kill yourself because you're denying yourself the pleasure that is life itself

>>82633113
It's selfish for people to force you to stay alive for their sake. They're basically torturing you for their own enjoyment.

>>82633204
You have yet to experience any real pain and suffering, good for you nonny

>>82633204
But if you suffer from depression (like the girl in OP pic) there's no pleasure in life at all

>>82633113
What a waste of pussy. She had a partner so if she wasn't selfish she could have requested a lobotomy or something so he could have a living realdoll.

>>82633113
Its not selfish, its a last resort

>>82633211
>You have yet to experience any real pain and suffering
I've suffered way too much, anon
But I'm human, and the human spirit within beckons me to rise again everytime I fall

>>82633219
Depression is one of the easiest mental illness to "cure"
They genuinely just need community

>>82633211
>You have yet to experience any real pain and suffering
The fact that you truly believe anyone that wants to be alive has never experienced real pain and suffering says so much about you. You're just a whiny little bitch, if you want to throw it all away no is stopping you, you dumb nigger. Just please stop whining and just do it already

>>82633230
>They genuinely just need community
What do you mean? What kind of community? Elaborate.

>>82633240
>You're just a whiny little bitch
No, anon. They're probably just too sensitive to suffering, which is not their fault. Be understanding

>>82633257
Think back on our ancestors' time, and look back on our time? What's missing?
For me, I see the lack of community

We're all "here" per se but we're not together
We don't help each other out, we're not there for one another, we don't have anyone to lean on
We're just here by ourselves most of the time

Having community helps a lot in alleviating that feeling
There's that one friend who can bring you places
That one friend who's always there for you
That one special friend who knows you inside and out, who can help you feel better

We need community above all

>>82633113
Very, unless you have some incurable disease which is slowly killing you. Or in extreme pain which can't be fixed.

If you kill yourself over something to be fixed, you're just wasting your life.

>>82633278
>There's that one friend who can bring you places
>That one friend who's always there for you
>That one special friend who knows you inside and out, who can help you feel better
these things don't exist in my life and i won't find them because they can only be found during formative years. i have been trying for the past 6 months and i am in ruins mentally because it just won't work out

>>82633270
They're overly sensitive to their own suffering and immediately disregard anyone elses, people like that deserve no empathy

>>82633230
>But I'm human, and the human spirit within beckons me to rise again everytime I fall
Are you met with problems that don't have solutions often? I just had a surgery to fix my digestive tract which didn't yield the intended results so I'm basically going to live with horrible pain until the docs take pity on me and get serious about pain management which will still ruin my life, this is on top of a thick stack of physical issues, some of which are even worse. There's no rising here just crawling in the dirt until I die.

>>82633240
I'm not interested in the musings of a racist sociopath, anon. You have nothing of value to offer to anyone. You're the sort of person who is partly to blame for this world being a horrible shitshow.

>>82633336
Keep trying, try and try and try again no matter the cost

You've got us folks here, just ask random anons if they wanna be friends

>>82633278
Would you be my friend anon? I have no friends at all and bought sodium nitrite to kill myself but I feel like I wouldn't do it if I had friends who cared about me

>>82633347
Why haven't you killed yourself yet, nigger?

>>82633113
Why are you worried about it being selfish?
>kill yourself
You'd be dead. There is no altruism or morality in a corpse.
>don't
Then you're alive to make stupid questions like this. Selfishness is a matter of perspective. The fact that someone considers this before making a big decision like offing themselves shows a lack of selfishness, because they took the time to consider them before their departure.
The rest is in context, probably. Doesn't matter as much as we think it does.

>>82633345
Sorry for your situation, anon
At the very least, I'll pour one out for you
>Are you met with problems that don't have solutions often?
My "problems" aren't my own, that's the fucked up part
I've been to 7 hospitals throughout my life but I've never been sick; it's always been my dad, my mom, my grandparents
It's cyclical, I'm stuck in this loop of having to "pause" my life because I just *have* to be there for them

And when it's cyclical, the solutions loop to
I have no idea how much money I've poured into paying the hospital bills, how much I've spent trying to raise my kid brothers after my dad passed, it's been an endless loop of
>get sick
>get better
>get sick
>die
>someone else gets sick

I feel like I've been "robbed", anon
Robbed of life, robbed of my potential because I'm fucking stuck here

>>82633351
Sure, but it's not gonna last I'll tell you
I have this thing where I don't really have "friends" per se but moments
Maybe right now it's our moment, but then we'll start to distance ourselves knowingly or unknowingly

But for now, let's enjoy the moment
My tag is @anonfromthesea
See you around, man

>>82633374
At this rate I won't have to because I'll probably die from esophagus cancer in a not very distant future.

>>82633427
>paying the hospital bill
Ah that sucks man. If I was American I would have died long ago. At least your family can't shame you since they're literally sucking the life out of you. But it does sound like a problem with no solution indeed. Good luck and hopefully you can stay healthy long enough to see the the light at the end of the tunnel.

>>82633581
The final-stop solution is unironically for every one of them to die, no matter how cruel that might seem

I'm a son without a father and a father without a child, feels like I carry this weird burden of having to be there for everyone but no one's there for me

Both are selfish. The issue I'm seeing is that people can't differentiate good selfish from bad selfish.

They might both be the middle-ground of selfish, i.e. equally good and bad. Still, suicide is the ultimate expression of bodily-autonomy.

>>82633113
her husband could have saved her

unless you are a parent or someone really got you through some shit you do not owe anyone anything

>>82633113
Killing yourself is never selfish. It's just something that arrogant assholes tell people who want to die

>>82633647
>The final-stop solution is unironically for every one of them to die, no matter how cruel that might seem
I didn't want to say it because it felt rude.

>>82633925
This person is a sicko trying to encourage random internet strangers to commit suicide.

>>82634269
Nobody is killing themselves because of what that anon said

>>82633227
males are fucking disgusting kill yourself

>>82633113
Why do Dutch women keep doing this?

>>82633113
The modern barbarity of saving the suicidal is based on a hair raising misapprehension of reality.

>life is awful
as compared to what? non-existence?

>>82633204
Life is not pleasurable. It's a constant struggle.

>>82636402
yes? it's better to be nothing than to be in pain

>>82633230
Honestly I'm now completely sure depression is real. Taking vitamin d supplements helped me a lot and I still have the same exact mindset and bed rotting tendencies.
Of course I don't have depression and the sadness comes from being an incel. But there is schadenfreude where someone has to kill themselves when they already have a loving partner and living life on easy mode

>>82636759
It is better to be what? complete your sentence.

>>82633113
Both are selfish. The person killing themselves only care about their suffering, and the persons who want them to live only care about their own suffering too. In the end, no one cares about other people. Everyone is selfish.

>kill yourself
>bad
>dont kill yourself
>bad

>>82636759
how do you know? have you tried it?

>>82633204
By that logic it is selfish to exist because you're only alive to indulge in pleasures, pleasures that come at the expense of someone else since someone else has to be deprived of meeting their basic needs.

I remember when this happened, what a fucking attention whore. I got banned on reddit that week since she kept being interviewed and plastered on the front page. I just asked "okay so is she going to do it yet and leave us alone or does she have more attentionwhoring to do?"
Only mod response I got was "vile"

>>82633230
>They genuinely just need community
what if no one accepts you

>>82636994
Mods, there's an underage poster here

>>82633113
i hate my family for guilt tripping me. they are part of the reason i'm this fucked up to begin. it's selfishness on their part because they are afraid of being accountable for your death.

>>82633113
Everybody dies. It's up to each individual to decide for themselves if they want to go early. Shaming people for wanting to quit early and suicide is a moralfaggot dick move. You're just invalidating their pain you don't really give a fuck if they live on or not. I hate virtue signaling faggots that use people's pain and misery as an excuse to lecture. I don't humor it I look at people's performative fake empathy with contempt like they're the phony moron they are.

>>82633113
I don't see it as any different than making it to 40 or 50 and ending it. You can't be in pain if you were never alive to begin with. If you look at the way the world is and can't understand why others kill themselves or have never thought about it even once, then you have a truly blessed life. I'm shocked more people don't kill themselves, especially in poorer third world environments where it is beyond bleak.

>>82638683
It's crazy to think theres all these third world slave laborers waging away every day scrolling social media and seeing how good lying richfags have it all around the world. It's similar to how my generation in America we have lived through how prosperous and easy baby boomers had it and we know how all their "hard life muh boot straps" stories are complete bullshit. And then these people have to just keep going along with the pyramid scheme slaving away taking all of this seriously. I don't know how some people gaslight themselves to do it. Low self-esteem and masochism is the only way it makes sense.

>>82633113
If it's published then it's a psyop
Dedicate your life to something good instead of ending it pointlessly
She probably left a family behind

I think if she exhausted every possible resource and didn't get better and was destined to live a life of physical/mental pain, not selfish. If she didn't exhaust every resource available to her, yes, she's selfish. I'll look into article later, but I am skeptical whether she had the will to fight given she was ill. If she had assistance from others, maybe she could have made it; It's like expecting a runner who breaks a leg mid race to finish the race. I'm weary of the government offering people assistance in suicide.

>>82633113
Everything we do is selfish lol, if you want to shoot yourself in the head then by all means go ahead. In the end we will forget because no one cares. Personally I think we should remove the stigma and see it as a part of life

>>82639166
>but I am skeptical whether she had the will to fight given she was ill.
really meant to say it's silly to expect an ill person to be fully capable of making rational decisions/seeing clearly.