tell them you got unopened pokemon boosters

Hard to swallow GIGA REDPILL here: rizz culture is against you as a human.

You're not supposed to bend over backwards to seduce anyone at all, whether you're male female or whatever.

This is gonna sound extremely retarded to you, but bear with my hot take: being yourself *IS* the best way to get someone you like.

Think about this: being yourself gives you the highest chance to meet someone with similar traits, values and quirks like you. Pretending to be "sigma" or "alpha" or whatever the fuck will only make you get stuck with women who are not in love with the real you at best, make you look like a fucking insecure retard at worst. That shit just doesn't work.

Essentially, as much as you fags are gonna @ me, dating is not about performance. It is about compatibility. Each one of us has a set of traits, values, or quirks that we look for in the other person. Most of the time, traits you yourself have or you've grown up with in your family.

2 people forming a relationship = compatibility in those said attributes.

>B-b-b-but wait, you can sperg out and "fumble"

I personally hate the concept of "fumble", because it puts a lot of pressure on the male especially to act in a certain societally-imposed way to not get rejected. When in fact, watching anime, playing videogames, even browsing this shithole site, are not "fumbles" if someone rejects you for it. Just signs of incompatibility. Maybe that girl likes kiwifarms, who gives a shit.

Compatibility mindset gives you power.

When someone rejects you, it's not cause you're a "weak beta" or whatever schizo shit some people write here. It's most of the time because of incompatible interests and such. cont.

>>82666789
How do you even meet women tho? Women at college are basically strangers so any attempt would pretty much be a cold approach, and I don't know where else to meet anyone.

>>82666789
Your personality traits have nothing to do with whether someone likes you AND the only way to have a decent relationship is for it to start off as casual sex, too. So, if you want to "rizz" someone the best thing to do is be tall, jacked (Max 14% body fat), white, with broad shoulders and a jawline you could cut diamonds with. If you don't have that, you're not likely to "rizz" anyone and unfortunately the best you can hope for is a transactional relationship with a woman where she allows you access to sex in exchange for resources.

As for personality not mattering, your looks are your personality as far as other people are concerned. They see the way you look and then interpret your actions through that lens. If you look good to them then they will tend to interpret what you do as good and vice versa. Since most men look absolutely repulsive to all women, women naturally interpret the actions and personality of most men as negative.

>>82666789
>B-but wait, there are other ways to fumble than incompatibility!

Of course. Despite non-compatiblity, there are ways of essentially threatening the safety of the relationship, which most people will consider a problem and might leave you. I made a list of most basic prerequisites for a relationship to work. Enter SAFER:
S- Safe: No threatening/controlling behavior; clear boundaries, consent, basic hygiene. (e.g., bad hygiene = SAFER violation.)
A - Aligned: You both actually want a relationship (not situationship/parasocial pursuit); shared intent to build something.
F - Fair: No exploiting power, time, money, or emotions; honesty and basic reliability.
E - Engaged: Both participate, initiate, follow up, show effort, keep plans.
R - Respectful/Responsive: Warmth, basic kindness, no contempt, emotionally responsive enough to not feel freezing/stonewalled. (Chronic cold/offensive behavior = SAFER violation.)

>>82666812
Women will come to you if they find you sexually attractive. You don't have to do anything. If they don't come to you then they don't want you. Do you see women out and about every day? Those women approach attractive men and offer them sex out of the blue, you know, so if they don't do that for you...

>>82666812
Excellent example! As we can note in >>82666820, given that cold approaches are considere by most women as invasive, it would therefore represent a SAFER violation and you would have a hard time meeting a date through that.

I'd wholeheartedly recommend (besides the usual meme examples) to find yourself a place in your city that organizes events where to meet new people (see: Meetup app, Thursday app, Timeleft app). Just this week I decided to join an acting club just for the keks. Otherwise I found pubs that host trivia nights where you can meet new people.

>>82666815
Thank you, I had almost forgotten this part. Of course, we have to talk about lookism a bit.

It is true: being attractive will open some more doors for you. Being malformed, a burn victim or in other way exceptionally ugly will close some doors for you.

However, even if you're average looking, that definitely doesn't mean all doors are closed for you and you're gonna be lonely forever. Remember, every person has their quirks. Just like the yellow fever thread you would've seen back in 2020 here, in the same way each woman has certain preferences.

Yes, that includes also preferences for people who aren't 14% body fat gods. We all agree conventional beauty may influence your odds, but this doesn't mean it's game over.
>>82666823
>Women will come to you if they find you sexually attractive.
Only gonna quote this, as I only agree with this part. It shows that if someone is really interested in you, you can be your sperg, anxious self however much you want, as long as your quirkiness is not a SAFER violation. Just wanted to ease up on the pressure on males to be alpha sigma fist my anus ligma

>>82666918
It's important to remember, however, that "exceptionally ugly" to women is largely the same for ALL women and criteria include things like being below 6 feet tall, not having visible abs, ANY hair loss, pale skin, skin that is too dark, or a jawline that isn't very well-defined. Any one of these traits will render you unlovable. We're not talking about attractiveness on an objective scale. We're talking about attractiveness on the scale women use, which means that almost all men are the equivalent of burn victims when it comes to actual sexual attraction.

>>82666847
If I do ever try and go places everyone I see is either old as fuck or kids. There's nobody my age.

>>82666954
Tinder is the best place to meet women and if you can't succeed in meeting women off Tinder, it means you wouldn't have any success anywhere else.

>>82666823
This is a meme right? I'm 6'4" and no woman has ever approached me.

>>82666789
>Hard to swallow GIGA REDPILL here: rizz culture is against you as a human.

Rizz, Fumble, PUA all that shit is meant to hurt you, not help you. These people that preach that shit are not your friends.

This culture puts a lot of pressure on men as if they're the sole component in the mating ritual. Either you're an alpha male who can "woo" women the right way, or you're a biological reject.

That is not true. As long as you respect SAFER, every rejection is just an incompatility, not a verdict on your worth as a man.

Not to add that this PUA Rizz shit is also a direct SAFER violation in itself. Acting distant, cold, unapproachable will not make you seem interesting to a woman, most likely you would put strain on the other person trying to understand why you act like a cold asshole.

Forcing women with cringe lines like "You are going to go out with me" is only gonna make you sound like a jackass. Any girl that's not a borderliner having an episode will ignore your ass if you write like that.

Essentially, acting non-chalant, "like an alpha would" will just make you seem insecure. Because after a certain age, people who try to act tough to hide their vulnerability become more and more obvious. This isn't middle school anymore, people can tell you're trying to pretend your dick is double size.

>>82666975
I'm actually taller than you and women don't approach me, either. This is because height is A requirement. It isn't THE requirement. If you're tall but don't have visible abs, women aren't going to want you. If you are tall but balding? You're hideous to women. You can be tall and be ugly. It's just that height automatically disqualifies most men so that's why they talk about it.

>>82666964
I don't have any photos of myself and whenever I try to take photos of myself I look ugly as fuck. I look okay in the mirror but then I take a picture of myself and I look like I got hit in the face with a frying pan.

>>82666823
>Women will come to you if they find you sexually attractive
To a degree that they feel absolutely compelled to.
>t. grew up with Stacy sisters who would fume whenever they saw a guy they thought was attractive give them "nothing" but would ultimately go approach anyone they found irresistible (to include the rare, incidental really hot women)

>>82666975
Also important to remember that gender roles reverse when Chad is around because Chad is rare but women who want Chad are not. That means women have to compete for Chad, which means they have to approach and offer Chad what he wants (otherwise some other woman will). That means women become enormous sex pests around Chad like most men are around women because to most men, women are scarce. To women, Chad is scarce.

>>82667002
That is likely because you are ugly, unfortunately. Go get a professional photographer or do some male modeling and post those pictures. If you can't do any male modeling, then you're wasting your time and should just go and earn money so you can fuck hookers.

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>>82666683

>Hi, what's your favorite dinosaur?

>>82666789
Rizz is just psycopathmaxxing. Girls who want to be rizzed are actively telling you they want to be manipulated.

You know what kind of car I want? The one with the best ad. Why? Because I choose to be a fucking retard.

Most modern women want psycopatha and are tellign you this.

>>82666683
Nothing positive can come to your life if you associate with this demonic creature

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>>82666954
What's your age anon
>>82666964
Not true at all lol. Harmful advice. Tinder is a bad place to look for women. Aside from oversaturation of men (80-20) which give an unfair supply and demand for women, it is also very common to get ghosted, get dry replies, and generally to waste your time.

Your best bet is to go to a public event, a camp, an organized travel group, anything where you can meet irl with a CONTEXT. There you'll see that meeting someone for the first time irl carries more weight than a photo on tinder.

Even if you're "chad", for women it is still a risk to meet with a profile picture for coffee. Whereas, if they meet you irl at an event, they'll already know you're good to go. It's also more natural I guess, you gotta feel it to trust it.
>>82666937
By exceptionally ugly I meant picrelated. That's exceptionally ugly. It's a delusional statement to consider people who aren't a greek god are exceptionally ugly. Get your head out your ass and get fucking redpilled for once.

I can bet with you that not all men who have ever made children had the traits that you've listed.

Also important to note that simply having sex /= you won at life

I used to have a colleague that was this very femme face rockerboy softboy and he every woman was approaching him just for existing. Yes, he was attractive. Was he happy? Not at all. He was a depressed wreck, always landing in a relationship with a crazy chick. Moral of the story: sex does not guarantee happiness. Quality relationships do.

>>82667002
Yeah, my biggest struggle was finding any number of good pictures of myself. But then I just made it a focus to pick up a nice, used camera, travel more, and bother people by asking them to take photos of/with me at cool places. A couple Amtraks out to a few New England mountain towns, the beach, and New York with my GRIII and not only do I have a profile that's gotten me /something/ but also I genuinely got a lot out of all the traveling, photography, talking to locals, surfing, hiking, biking, local music, and sightseeing I did in the meantime.
>of course, defocus the sex and recognize that typically when you do cool, memorable shit, receipts of said cool, memorable shit become considerably easier to procure

>>82667044
I can argue that the real toxic societal trait is that this specific way of seduction is the only "alpha" way, when in fact you can be seductive as a man even in less mainstream-imposed ways. For example, in the right context with the right compatible person, even a stuttered badly done compliment can seem enticing sexually.

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>>82666683
>Spread your fucking pussy lips bitch

>>82666964
>Tinder is the best place to meet women.
What a retarded insane thing to say.
Only whores looking for one-night-stands with Chad use Tinder. They're not looking for sub 8's, and if you get with a girl she is not girlfriend material.

And the algorithm is specifically designed so most men get no matches.

I met ugly men with pretty girlfriends. None, not a single fucking one of them used Tinder to get these girls. If you are below a 9, no bio or cool photo can save you. You can be cool IRL, not on a swipable app

>>82667100
Anecdote: a friend of mine, who was a complete fucking sperg, an actual manchild, overweight, average looking with hair loss, once managed to score a kiss from a girl on a date simply by going "Huh? What's that thing on your mouth? Let me check closer. Haaa" and BAM. Kissed.

Of course my stomach turned upside down hearing him tell this cringe ass story. But from the compatility perspective? His kissing strat did not violate SAFER, and was also well received by the girl who probably was enticed by his autistic ways.

>>82667081
>What's your age anon
20

>>82667119
In my opinion, rating people as numbers/10 is disingenuous. First of all, it ignores personal differences between people. No matter how idealistically pretty you look by the mainstream standards, there will always be a preference.

How many threads have been made here with anons arguing who is hotter, prime Angelina Jolie versus Herschlag? It's clear that even when we're talking high level beauty, there will always be personal preference that will take hold.

As the saying goes: You can be the pretties, juiciest, sweetest most full of nectar peach in the orchard, and there still will be a person who will say "I don't like peaches!"

You can also be the most run down, dry, ugly, horribly raunchy peach in the orchard, and a person might still say "Hey, I'll add this one to my brandy mixture!"
>>82667169
Define "old as fuck". 30 year olds are comfy as fuck anon. What clubs/events have you tried so far?

>>82667084
I have a nice camera but I lowkey got kleptophobia so I refuse to put it in anyone else's hands unless they are direct family.

>>82667208
At this point you're just finding excuses. Stop bitching out

>>82667201
Old as fuck I mean like, married people. Honestly I haven't tried events because I don't know where to find them. I just know that like going around town and stuff everyone I see is either a kid or old.

>>82667235
Going around town walking around is not gonna yield you shit, man. That's supreme gentleman tier bro, fuck that shit. You need to apply yourself. I've been to improv, acting, public speaking, camps, trips, volunteered, all sorts of shit. And that taught me a lot about life as well, imagine all the experience you'll get.

And think about it logically: because these events are organized every week and have a structure, you'll be less likely to pussy out, and perhaps the circumstances will even make you strike up convos, which is good, because:

Even if the girls don't like you, getting friends (M or F) from events is golden. It opens you up for refferal dating, which is the best, most trustful way to date. If someone vouches for you, you will gain much more trust in the eyes of a woman, because you're not some guy from the street, but "that guy" that her friend hyped up.

Murdering politicians in front of their families

>>82667201
> No matter how idealistically pretty you look by the mainstream standards, there will always be a preference.
This is a very woman opinion. If you're a guy, remember you need to be above 18 to post here.

Yes, most people are actually attracted to conventionally attracted people and not attracted to ugly people. Anons bitching about supermodels with crooked eyelashes would cream their pants if they saw one of these models IRL.


There might be 1/100 women who jerk off every night watching nude bald fat indian janitors. But those women are so rare that they are already taken

>>82667317
>There might be 1/100 women who jerk off every night watching nude bald fat indian janitors.

Ok your point being? It's true, if you're like you described, it's hard to find a match. However, you can lose weight, wear better clothes (a hat) and find a chick who's into indians. I don't see the issue?
>This is a very woman opinion.
Build up upon it? I don't see your argument besides an ad hominem.

Do you guys watch those pov rizz channels? Guys cold approaching girls with meta glasses on

>>82666683
Be black and act ghetto
They don't want to be racist so they will let you do whatever you want

>>82667081
>Not true at all lol. Harmful advice. Tinder is a bad place to look for women.

No it's not. Tinder is an objective measurement of your attractiveness to women. Tinder isn't bad, it's just that most men are too ugly to succeed on it. And if you can't succeed there, why do you think women would suddenly want you somewhere else?

>By exceptionally ugly I meant picrelated
To a woman, that guy is effectively the same in sexual attractiveness to most men, which is zero.

>>82667119
All women are looking for sex with Chad at all times. Of course they aren't looking for sub-8s. They are NEVER looking for sub-8s, wherever you meet them, so you might as well do it on Tinder.

>You can be cool IRL
And you can be their cool friend who drives them over to Chad's place and stuff. Sounds great.

>>82667128
>doesn't violate SAFER
>literal sexual assault

Reading slutty normie women's spaces like pinkscare makes me dislike how easily chad get pussy.

>>82666789
true and false, most of us do need to change ourselves a little

it is less "be yourself" and more "become someone better", and actually become someone better, not fake, it learn to be better, learn to drop whatever psychological baggage you have, learn to enjoy the things normies enjoy so much, or at least give it a good crack before you get old

I did it with poems

>>82666789
Genuinely the smartest thing I've seen on r9k

>>82666683
>How do you rizz up a girl nowadays?
I don't

>>82667745
What's considered "old"

Orginialdo

>>82667339
Woman opinion means that you don't know how men live, and you are naive.


Most men like most women, I mean they find them attractive. The opposite isn't true. If you are a guy, most girls won't find you attractive.
You can dress better and work out and stuff. But even then, most girls won't like you. Being confident and such helps. Personalitt helps. But in Tinder, that shit simply doesn't matter, because before they saw how funny you are they already swiped left because you don't look as hot as the tons of 9/10 guys that she already matched with. If the guy meets with the girl IRL, at least he can talk to her.

I mean...your advice. Wearing a hat. Ah yes, a hat. If only I wore one, women would finally like me. You clearly have no idea about what dating is like for a man. Because you are not a man. Because you are a woman.

>>82667719
Used to be the rule that you stayed a virgin until marriage. Having sex before marriage or cheating had heavy punishments. And there was no pill: you could easily get found out if you did that shit.

All this to say. Women always wanted Chad. In the past, you could jestermaxx and personalitymaxx and they'd settle for you. You were not their first option, but they did come around to love you. But at the very least, you were monogamous, no one else fucked her.

Nowadays. If you personalitymaxx to get a girl. It is only aftee she got her pussy blown out by Chad. And women plan their lives this way. They are evil. They want to cuck you but in a way that you can't complain about it. They fuck hot guys out of their leagues, and then go for a safe guy who actually loves them. They never planned to give the personallitymaxxed nice cool guy their virginities, or be monogamous with him. Also they cheat like crazy too

>>82667383
>i-it's white guilt!!
Stop coping

>>82666789
based trvkepilled knower
although i dont know how much this extends to looks

>>82667100
You shouldn't need "rizz" in the first place. Compatibility has nothing to do with charisma.
Imagine if you needed rizz to make friends. Imagine if you needed to be charming and suave and shit. Instead of just being happily autistic together.

If a woman wants "rizz" from a man, you just know she is a superficial whore. She likes the appearance of romace more than the actual relationship. She doesn't want a loved one who she gets along with. She wants a stranger to impress her. She is incapable of love. She chose the path of the whore. Most women today are like this.

There is an exception to what I'm saying. If the grill doesnt find you physically attractive, then you do need rizz to fill ot the difference. But women will never admit they are simply not attracted to most men. This fact is the reason why most men need to jester to entertain women.

You misspelled jizz

>>82666820
You sound fine at first but then you start giving this teenager feminist dating advicd that has nothing to do wirh the real world and will only make the kid following it sad lonely and eventually bitter.

Dont be rapey or stalkey, sure. But your advice is based on the idea that women are angels and are ultra-mature. So if you're nice enough yoill get one