>>82673310
Those things aren't equivalent.

Third wave was just another attack.

Manosphere was an adaptation

>>82673310
>Why do you hate the opposite sex?
Because they dont have sex with me.
/thread

>>82673310
>it takes a man and a woman to create a new human. Keyword: AND
But no woman wants to do that with me

>>82673401
>Those things aren't equivalent.
They are, in that it's a bunch of bitter old people taking advantage of young people's naivety and loneliness. Two sides of the same shekel
>>82673405
Do you hate your mother because she doesn't have sex with you? Likewise, is it acceptable for women to hate all men on the basis that a few of them gave them the "ick"?

>>82673310
enjoy your divorce rape, bro.

>>82673464
>But no woman wants to do that with me
There are 4 billion women in the world. If CwC can land some genuine puss even after tranning out and fucking his mom, so can you.

>>82673475
>enjoy your divorce rape, bro.
Relevant... how?

>>82673465
You are clearly a government shill.
I won't stop neeting and i WILL shoot draft officers

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>>82673465
>Do you hate your mother because she doesn't have sex with you?
Yes
>Likewise, is it acceptable for women to hate all men on the basis that a few of them gave them the "ick"?
Its not "a few" women who refuse to have sex with me, its all of them. Terrible comparison.
>>82673476
>There are 4 billion women in the world
That argument again...
*taps the sign*
>inb4 just fuck 60yo women
I would but they dont want me either

>>82673498
I'm libertarian. I hate glowniggerd more than you, lmao.
>I wont stop neeting
So you will be a useless sack of shit who seeks to not improve himself or gain any meaningful skills?
> i WILL shoot draft officers
Okay? Good for you. I aint dying for Israel either.

>>82673465
>young people's loneliness
Young women arent lonely, they have a lot of sex.
As for the young men, why are they lonely ? Are you going to blame the government or capitalism, instead of just admiting women dont want to have sex with most men ?

>>82673520
Who said I'm useless or unskilled?

Im not a neet, I'm THE neet you fucking normfilth. Lower your tone if you're not an actual genius.

>>82673515
Why do you hate your mother for not wanting to have sex with you? Do you want to fuck your mom? Gross.
>Its not "a few" women who refuse to have sex with me, its all of them. Terrible comparison.
Have you asked all 4 billion women? If not, it's not all women. And yes statistically speaking not all women are going to want to fuck you. Stop focusing on all women and look for the right woman.
>taps sign
The sign is not really relevant here. There are still 4 billion women. One of them might be the one.
>>82673532
Sex is not everything. Do you think promiscuous women really have any deep meaningful relationship with all of their sex partners? No, they don't. They degrade themselves as sex objects then wonder why everyone else seems them as such. But not everyone is promiscuous. Most young people on the internet really don't have much friends, both men and women

>>82673589
You're not THE neet, my guy. That is for The Tokyo Active NEETS (who are a group of talented japanese jazz musicians that make touhou covers). You're not unskilled? Okay, what can you do, despite not being in employment, education, or training?

>>82673515
>>inb4 just fuck 60yo women
No one is telling you to fuck hags. Statiscally there IS a young woman out there. It's whether you have the balls to deal with rejection humbly or will you blame all of your issues on boogeymen. Take some accountability and control in your life

>>82673604
Im a qualified engineer and published scientist. I can also bend your mother over absolutely anything.

I cook well also and I'm something of an athlete

>>82673594
>Do you want to fuck your mom?
I wanna fuck a woman, any woman
>Have you asked all 4 billion women? If not, it's not all women. And yes statistically speaking not all women are going to want to fuck you. Stop focusing on all women and look for the right woman.
Havent met a single one willing to fuck me so far.
>>82673594
>The sign is not really relevant here. There are still 4 billion women. One of them might be the one.
Now youre just baiting, or retarded
>Sex is not everything
It is, when it comes to women
>>82673594
>Do you think promiscuous women really have any deep meaningful relationship with all of their sex partners?
What would that consist of ?
And whatever you answer, they can have it if they want, they chose not to.
>>82673594
>They degrade themselves as sex objects
Nothing degrading about sex you cuckservative

>>82673615
>Statiscally there IS a young woman out there
Are you actually retarded ? Do you even know what this graph mean ?

>>82673646
Took you 6 minutes to come up with that, champ? Published scientist? What journals have you published in? What have you researched? Lex Fridman is also a qualified engineer and published scientist

>>82673647
So all you care about is sex? Why not just buy a hooker and call it a day? You clearly aren't interested in women outside of the sex aspect.

>>82673310
I developed my views independant from the internet, thank you very much

>>82673310
The actual information is irrelevant. These people are spiritually hollow, it could literally be anything and they'd rebuke you simply because they identify with it. This is simply who they are and it's all they ever will be, that kind of thinking is what's wrong, not the actual war on sex. To get involved is to basically fucking outright lose as there's not a discussion that's going to happen, they've already made up their minds no matter how retarded, delusional, or unnatural it is. Your best bet is to flat out disconnect and move on.

>>82673659
>dox yourself
No

Yxycj

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>>82673655
The woman part of ur graph peaks between the ages of 20 and 30. So yes, there is a young woman out there. Not sure what the surplus means, but there are still more young. We're not Japan

>>82673310
>Retard feminists and tradbros pretend as if one is subordinate to the other, but it takes a man and a woman to create a new human.
it is not necessary for a foid's consent or "personhood" to be respected in order to create life

>>82673687
Nigger, saying one journal you published in isn't a dox. Saying what you researched isn't a dox. I research machine learning into wavefunctions for quantum mechanics. I said what I do, now you can say what you do.

>>82673670
>Why not just buy a hooker
Illegal in my country, and yes the law is enforced.
>You clearly aren't interested in women outside of the sex aspect.
What else do they offer that cannot be replaced with a computer or a friend ?
Oh right, reproduction...

>>82673688
Holy shit youre actually braindead (or trolling, probably that)
There's far more young men than young women, is that clear enough ?

>>82673701
I cure cancers and develop diagnostic tests.

Or rather I did before I started my indefinite holiday

>>82673709
>What else do they offer that cannot be replaced with a computer or a friend ?
>Oh right, reproduction...
A woman can be a friend. I know, shocker. Should women only see you on the basis of you being a sperm bank?
>they already do
Do they? Then what makes you more worthy than other men? Why should women fuck you and not me?

>>82673720
Fair analysis. But not every young woman is taken by another man. And there are still non American women. It is unfortunate that there is more competition for us. But that just means you need to do better to stand out. If a shit burger company opens up to a local classic and the shit company gets no customers for being shit, whose fault is that?

>>82673744
>Do they?
Yes
>Then what makes you more worthy than other men?
Not "more". Sex should be redistributed based on efforts toward society.
From each according to his need, to each according to his ability, as Marx said.
I have a difficult manual job necessary for society (in construction), and I pay taxes, therefore I deserve sex.
>Why should women fuck you and not me?
I didnt say not you though.

>>82673732
Interesting. How does someone in healthcare become a neet? I doubt the job market for health professionals is bad

>>82673772
Cant you just admit that not everyone will succeed ?
Victim blaming jfl, typical foid

>>82673778
Gets marx backwards, unintended accuracy

>>82673787
Deliberate drop out. I've earned enough and honestly you deserve cancer.

>>82673790
>Gets marx backwards
How so ?
Why should a proletar-incel work if he can get sex ?
Minimum wage, minimum effort

>>82673778
So you're a sex communist? That's a new one. I fundamentally disagree that society owes you sex for existing, though.

>>82673811
>So you're a sex communist?
I prefer the label Marxist-Rodgerist, but yeah
>That's a new one
Nope, the manifesto was written years ago
>I fundamentally disagree that society owes you sex for existing, though.
Literally not what I said, amazing

>>82673807
From each according to his ability...

>>82673835
... to each according to his need

>>82673840
Now read your original post

>>82673788
Not everyone will succeed but anyone can. It's okay if you're don't succeed, but instead of falling for the gender grift and blaming society for having no sex there's other things we can do which isnbetter with our times.
>victim blaming
You are not a victim. I hate this victim mentality so many men have on this site. I sympathize with your sexual frustration but stop acting like you're oppressed and deserve reparations. Also, I am not a woman nor will I ever be one.
>>82673825
>Literally not what I said, amazing
But that's what it implies. You work for society therefore you deserve sex. Is that not saying society owes you sex? You talk about redistribution of sex like it's land. So every deserves sex for working? Is sex a human right?

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>>82673854
Ah shit my bad I meant cant and not can
Here:>>82673807

Unfortunately I hate men due to my dad and brother, not because of feminism. I never had a chance in this life being born to a doormat retard (my mom)

>>82673863
You make many assumptions that don't stand up anon so counterpoint...

He IS owed sex
&
He IS a victim

>>82673863
>But that's what it implies.
No
>You work for society therefore you deserve sex.
Yes
>Is that not saying society owes you sex?
No
>You talk about redistribution of sex like it's land.
And ?
>So every deserves sex for working?
Yes
>Is sex a human right?
Yes

>>82673863
>You are not a victim.
I am.
>I hate this victim mentality so many men have on this site.
OK?
>I sympathize with your sexual frustration
You clearly dont, otherwise you would understand how much I suffer
>you're oppressed and deserve reparations.
I am and I do.
>>82673892
>He IS owed sex
>&
>He IS a victim
TRVTHNVJE

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>>82673863
>It's okay if you're don't succeed
ESL fag
Either way, no, it's not okay, it's demoralizing. But you'll just sit on your high horse and judge us

>>82673895
>>But that's what it implies.
>No
You can deny all you want and argue about semantics but it doesn't change that fundamentally you feel as if you are owed sex. I mean, you agree with this guy in your next post here right here >>82673923 so clearly my analysis was accurate.
Also,
>>82673892
Victim of what? Being a virgin? Boohoo. I don't get pussy either. It's frustrating. But I would rather spend my time self improving or waking others up than complaining about "le girls". If you are a victim, do something, instead of letting the world oppress you. Fight back

Also to preemptively counter the shifting of burden of proof onto me

>victim of?
Gynocentric corposocialism

>Owed
Only what he explicitly contributes for in the first place

>>82673953
>fight back
So victim blaming then. I expect better of you anon.

>>82673947
>But you'll just sit on your high horse and judge us
I'm in the same boat as you guys. There is no high horse, we're all virgins here. But I want you guys to realize that gender war shit is an obvious grift, and truthfully while sex is important it's not everything. There is more to life than sex

>>82673962
Can we stop with this blatant lefitst tier thought terminating cliche? You just aren't a victim.
>>82673957
>gynocentric corporatism
What? Elaborate on your word salad. HR girlbosses are oppressing you or am I just assuming things?

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>>82673964
>we're all virgins here. But I want you guys to realize that gender war shit is an obvious grift, and truthfully while sex is important it's not everything. There is more to life than sex
Literally picrel. And what is more important to you than starting a family and children? Buying Funko Pops or other meaningless items that'll fade away in a couple of decades?

>>82673953
>you feel as if you are owed sex
I am owed sex AS PAYMENT FOR MY LABOR
Why do cuckservatives lie like that ?

>>82673980
>lefitst tier
I am a leftist.
I'm a communist.
I'm a Marxist-Rodgerist.
The Incel-proletariat should seize the means of reproduction.

>>82673310
There's no gender war. Women have always despised men and acted against them to the extent they could. Always, every single time from every single historical era, you can extract the same observations.

It's nothing more than men trying to contain the process of female collectivization which is the guaranteed death of any society within the next two or three generations.

>but it takes a man and a woman to create a new human
That's exactly the core of the issue, that's the only actual leverage women have and they always end up weaponizing it and holding their society(which they perceive as unnatural) as hostage.

>>82673957
>>Owed
>Only what he explicitly contributes for in the first place
Society owes its workers many things but sex is not one of them.
>>82673982
>Buying Funko Pops or other meaningless items that'll fade away in a couple of decades?
I don't buy funko pops. Starting a family is a priority of mine but I realize that right now the way things are, that's not happening. Do I complain about it or do I work to self betterment whilst waiting for the opportunity?

>>82674010
>Society owes its workers many things but sex is not one of them.
Who are you to judge that ?
Im a worker, I know what I want

>>82673980
Its only word salad if you're illiterate.

Gynocentric
Support for single mothers, divorce rape, and family courts

Corpo
Wage halving, family destroying, consumerist end stage capitalism

Socialism
Civil service explosion, dei, female daycare jobs, and in work gibs combined with internationalism (arguably also corpo)

>>82674020
Amusingly he decries communism but tells you how you should want to get paid

>>82674008
What a meme ideology. How can the president of the United States effectively address the incel epidemic? I want your genuine answer.
>>82674024
So... HR girl bosses are oppresing you? How? Be specific. What did they do to yoyuspecifically that makes you a victim of girl power?

>>82674042
Stop arguing like a jew amd address the grievances outlined the the definition you asked for

>>82674009
>Women have always despised men and acted against them to the extent they could.
Not really. Many women in history are faithful wives who seved their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons dutifully.

>>82673465
>They are

no, they're not. you are a retard who is not as nuanced or intelligent as he thinks he is. everyone has already had and graduated from the gay little revelation being visited upon you in your OP, you are behind.

>>82674042
>What a meme ideology. How can the president of the United States effectively address the incel epidemic? I want your genuine answer.
State mandated prostitutes were used during the revolution, to endure the workers loyalty.
This would be a good start.
And if the whores refused, Lenin knew how to treat them.

>>82674035
>he decries communism
What?
I literally said:
>>82674008
>I'm a communist

>>82674063
They could end the policies outlined in my definition of Gynocentric corposocialism

That would be how "hr roasties" could end the oppression

>>82674059
Just blow it out your ass. It's not even amusing anymore, take it to the fucking titkok comments section.

You know I'm right, you know every philosopher and historian observing the same phenomena were right and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. It doesn't even matter because it's already done.

>>82674069
Think about who is meant by "he" esl anon

>>82673310
I hate women because they aren't virgins. Pretty simple. Feminism is one of the reasons why women are even more whorish therefore I hate it
I don't disagree with feminism in principle. If feminists were cute virgins, I'd support it, but they aren't. Therefore it has to be destroyed

He's gone very quiet hasn't he...

>>82674063
And Congress would approve this how? Do you think MIGA want to give their daughters up for a leftist incel? Do you think the many blue haired bitches on your side (nominally at least) are willing to be a state mandated girlfriend?
>>82674060
They're both peddled by hypersexuals who want your moniez.
>>82674058
...what? In English, please. I clearly understand what your word salad means, I want to know HOW they oppress you. Also, corposocialism is an oxymoron.

>>82674110
>Oxymoron
No it isnt.

>How though
Scroll up this was already answered.

Slowly, I began to hate them

Im going to guess we've reached the play dumb distract and slide stage now hes been soundly btfo

>>82674132
How did they oppress you and make you a victim? You've alluded but you haven't directly answered my question. And yes, corposocialism is an oxymoron. How the fuck is a corporation socialist?

>>82674110
>And Congress would approve this how? Do you think MIGA want to give their daughters up for a leftist incel?
Nigger im a communist. Revolution are always a bloodbath, and im fine with that

>>82674086
>Think about who is meant by "he" esl anon
Idk because no one told me >>82674035
>how [I] should want to get paid

>>82674150
Address the grievances outlined in the corposocialism post you worthless cuntoid.

God I'm always right and so was Hitler. All thats left is for him to appear again tomorrow peddling the same shit unchanged

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>>82674063
>Lenin knew how to treat them
Forgot the pic

>>82673310
Reminder that just because there are 2 genders doesn't make everything is black & white and equal. Women are 98.1% of the problem.

>>82674150
>How did they oppress you and make you a victim?
Not him but foids are no different than capitalists. They leech off our labor yet produce nothing

>>82674083
Just saying I'm wrong doesn't prove me wrong. Olga of Kiev was a good wife who avenged her husband, Theodora, Queen Vicky, Sisi... Emperor Kangxi's grandmother helped him consolidate his power. Lots of good women

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>>82674184
Based
I'm a communist advocate now

>>82674163
>Nigger im a communist.
And nigger, communism will never work in America. Get real.
>>82674173
I think some complaints about woke culture are valid. But woke HR girl bosses are not why you're not having sex. Corporate culture, maybe.
>God I'm always right and so was Hitler
Which is why he said Germans deserved to lose, ACKed himself and let Russians contaminate the German gene pool. Amazingly you agree with the Marxist-Rodgerist that you are owed sex. Both socialist retards...

>>82674194
>They leech off our labor yet produce nothing
They produce children. And are the main caretakers of children. Men don't nut in a man's butt and shit out a baby, do they?

>>82674203
>I'm a communist advocate now
Nice.
Total Foid Death & Total Capitalist Death

>>82674196
Funny thing is, you're not even arguing against my point, you're just making some kind of a hasbara style poster campaign featuring your favorite heroines to contribute to women's approval rating or whatever the fuck it is you're doing.

>>82674010
>Starting a family is a priority of mine but I realize that right now the way things are, that's not happening.
So you decided to become a worker ant working mindlessly for its queen, just for some hope that a bitter roastie will spread her legs for you? You're not owed a family, this society doesn't value either of us enough for that, they think we don't deserve it. Keep dreaming of that blown out roastie who'll miss Chad and keep your bedroom dead as she learns to resent you and your genetically limp children. If that's your dream, then this society is sick and you're retarded for being so passive of it

>>82674184
So killing the prostitutes will make you have more sex? The only person who sees sex as transactional as you? Right...

>>82674240
You don't have a point. What the fuck is there to argue? You said "women are useless" or something like that and I told you that women are often loyal.
>>82674245
>So you decided to become a worker ant working mindlessly for its queen, just for some hope that a bitter roastie will spread her legs for you?
No. I'm working for myself and whichever woman is cute and nice enough and wants to join along can. I think this is the attitude men should have

>>82674231
>They produce children
Except they dont anymore.
But we can come to a compromise
-Reforme marriage laws (No more no fault divorce, separate banks acc mandatory, etc)
-remove all wefare programmes for single foids, exception for widows.
-if a woman still isnt married past 20, she become one of the state mandated prostitutes
-sex out of marriage illegal, exception for usage of the state prostitutes
-etc... too lazy to go further but you get it

>>82674272
>I think this is the attitude men should have
Thats so cucked.
I would most likely end up breaking my back on construction site all my life and never get any pussy.
Fuck this shit

>>82674272
>You said "women are useless"
No, I said women as a collective are inherently hostile towards men and anything they perceive as a construct made or staffed by men. I never said they're useless because if they were, they wouldn't have leverage to operate with in the first place
>or something like that
ok so you're just baiting as usual, joke's on me, take care

>>82673310
If you are arguing in good faith then we are probably at the point in time where you can say that because you are ignorant to the reality. I agree that now we have 15 year old kids watching Andrew Tate and you can think both sides are the same. But I am 35 and back when I was still trying to get a girlfriend there was no manosphere. Women fucked me over again and again. Then I watched mgtow videos and gave up completely. But the reason they worked and made me give up is because they accurately described everything I have already experienced firsthand.

Feminism ruined gender relations that is a fact.

>>82674291
What's more cucked, giving up or persevering? Break your back to create your own structure, your own family, and improve society. Sex is cool, but the purpose of living is for the betterment of humanity.
>>82674282
Marriage reform would help married couples. How does this help sexless incels who aren't even close?
The other things might. It's pretty deplorable for you to insinuate this is what needs to be done though. Would this help society or help you specifically? Is sex seriously the thing missing from your life that you base your worldview on it?

>>82674296
>No, I said women as a collective are inherently hostile towards men and anything they perceive as a construct made or staffed by men
And I said that was bullshit and gave you examples of women helpful to men. So yes, you have no point.
>ok so you're just baiting as usual, joke's on me, take care
Joke is on you for having a shitty take. Ciao!

>>82674345
>But I am 35 and back when I was still trying to get a girlfriend there was no manosphere. Women fucked me over again and again. Then I watched mgtow videos and gave up completely. But the reason they worked and made me give up is because they accurately described everything I have already experienced firsthand.
>Feminism ruined gender relations that is a fact.
I appreciate your response. I agree that MGTOW and third wave feminism has ruined gender relations (for the terminally online and super political at least). But I dislike how men responded with their own version of third wave feminism. I genuinely believe gender divides are a sinister form of divide and conquer

>>82674346
>your own family
How am i supposed to start a familly when i cant get sex ?
>the purpose of living is for the betterment of humanity.
Am i not a part of humanity ?
>Would this help society or help you specifically?
Am i not a part of society ?
Why is it always "you should help others" but never "others should help you" ?
The second you ask for something back youre an "entitled incel" or whatever.
>Is sex seriously the thing missing from your life that you base your worldview on it?
Its the thing i want the most. A billion dollars could be nice too, but sex would be better

>>82674404
>I appreciate your response. I agree that MGTOW and third wave feminism has ruined gender relations
Srry, meant i agreed with mgtow. And feminism has ruined modern gender relations

Sure man, you're right but it affects just about everyone because you're all retarded. I'm sure in the next moment you're ready to mouth off about snowflakes or ice agents or something just as stupid

>>82674404
>But I dislike how men responded with their own version of third wave feminism
What else can be done ?

>>82674359
Like I said, it doesn't matter because it's already done. You can sit here and type out all the combination of words, but it won't make women any more cooperative and it won't change their biologically hardwired nature. All you're doing is reassuring yourself or squeezing out a few replies for a some cheap dopamine hits. Have another one.

>>82674404
>genuinely believe gender divides are a sinister form of divide and conquer
So who is conquering who here ?

>>82674404
>I agree that MGTOW and third wave feminism has ruined gender relations
Fuck off and kill yourself you disingenuous faggot.

>>82674404
>But I dislike how men responded with their own version of third wave feminism
If you want to have a constructive discussion here then what solution do you propose? There is no way both sides will suddenly agree to back off. And if men back off first then there is no way women will stop what they are doing.

I think the sad truth is there is no way out of this situation. Modern society is built on a huge lie that women and men are equal. Even I who got fucked over by women got conditioned enough where I wouldn't feel comfortable with turning women into property.

>>82674429
I'd like to have a wife and kids. But I'd settle for a group of like minded individuals to me who want to achieve a greater goal. A family is what you make it.
>>82674439
Men should go their own ways and focus on self improvement. Not that "hate women and buy Andrew tate's course", but the old school shit like work out, read books, learn a trade or skill... it's cliched but we as men need to be contributors to bettering society for the future and not make the mistakes boomers are making.
>>82674447
Jews are conquering us. I assure you jews dont participate in these silly gender wars.
>>82674479
I apologize for misspeaking here. I corrected myself

>>82674247
We should kill them if they disobey retard. Otherwise just rape them

>>82674551
>Men should go their own ways
Guess what "MGTOW" means.
>work out, read books, learn a trade or skil
We should do that while contrbuting to society as little as possible.
Learn a skill but dont use it to help other.
>we as men need to be contributors to bettering society
The opposite. We should walk out and let everything collapse
>Jews are conquering us. I assure you jews dont participate in these silly gender wars
Lmao
https://incels.is/threads/a-study-showed-that-israeli-women-who-use-a-sperm-bank-want-the-donor-to-be-taller-than-180-cm-and-have-light-eyes-and-hair.796036/
Jewish women cuck and genocide jewish men

>>82674571
You clearly aren't doing that.

>>82674622
We dont. And we see the results. Perhaps we should do it.

>>82674621
>>work out, read books, learn a trade or skil
>We should do that while contrbuting to society as little as possible.
>Learn a skill but dont use it to help other.
>>we as men need to be contributors to bettering society
>The opposite. We should walk out and let everything collapse
I dislike this "let it all burn" attitude. How about we fix shit?
>Jewish women cuck and genocide jewish men
Nice source, retard. Jews are laughing at us while Jewish men and women are on the same page in destroying us. While we're so focused on chad vs stacy. You've literally fallen for their brainwashing

>>82674631
Ok. Do it then. See how well that ends up for you. Are you such a slave to your desires that you will act so niggerish and animalistic?

>>82673476
>There are 4 billion women in the world.
Its logistically impossible to met them all.
Your argument is bad faith argument. Its really all we need to know about you.

>>82674691
No one is saying to meet them all. The point is your sample size is far too small to make conclusions about all women. And you're right - you will never meet them all so you cannot make generalizations about all women.

>>82674059
>Many women in history are faithful wives who seved their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons dutifully.
in Patriarchy.

>>82674669
>How about we fix shit?
By wageslaving for corporations and financing foids' welfare through taxes ?
Because thats all youve said so far, just work until maybe some whore settle for you then betabuxx until death
>Nice source, retard
The source was given on the forum and literally all studies show women select for aryan chads sperm donors, kikewhores included.
>You've literally fallen for their brainwashing
You fell for women's.

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>>82674669
>we as men need to be contributors to bettering society
Dont get how do you come to this conclusion.
Men should do this because? Because...?

>>82674703
>No one is saying to meet them all
So to what numbler are you gonna retract from your 4 billions statement? 6... millions? (*wink wink*)

>>82674723
>By wageslaving for corporations and financing foids' welfare through taxes ?
By being a worker for a company or cause I care for and paying for your neetbux through taxes.
>The source was in the forum
The post the source and not the faggy incel forum. This one is enough for me.
>You fell for women's.
Ironically enough, you did. You listened to the Kate Leth man hating feminists so much you thought all women were like that. You're no different from a tranny saying "kill all cis!" because one person called him a he. I don't listen to retard women so I never swallowed their propaganda in the first place

>>82674739
>Men should do this because? Because...?
Because we should make the world better than we left it? I care about legacy and the longevity of humanity deeply. Even the nazis wanted to make the world better for Aryan Germans. You just want to burn shit down.
>>82674752
There is no retraction. There are 4 billion women. Find one.

>>82674781
>Because we should make the world better than we left it?
Why? For other people's kids to enjoy it ? Thats cucked

>>82674791
For OUR kids, comrade.

>>82674765
>Ironically enough, you did. You listened to the Kate Leth man hating feminists so much you thought all women were like that. You're no different from a tranny saying "kill all cis!" because one person called him a he. I don't listen to retard women so I never swallowed their propaganda in the first place
I dont even know who that Kate is jfl.
And i know women hate me because they dont have sex with me but they do with other guys

>>82674798
Obviously not since i didnt have sex.
Youre almost understand my point though. If they were my kids I would have a reason to contribute. Women excluded me from society, i didnt left by myself

>>82674791
And for humanity as a whole. So yes, other people's kids. Imagine being so misanthropic that a phrase like "make the world a better place" makes you recoil. I think you're a piece of shit but even then you deserve to have a home we can live on. And I don't think you are owed sex or deserve sex, but i absolutely sympathize with sexual frustrations towards women you are having. And I want you to have sex and enjoy life.

>>82674800
>And i know women hate me because they dont have sex with me but they do with other guys
Women fuck men they hate all the time. Sex does not mean someone likes you.
>>82674812
Read >>82674820. Even if you never have kids I want to make the world better for you

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>>82674781
>Because we should make the world better than we left it?
Lets reverse argument.
>we as women need to be contributors to bettering society

>>82674781
>There is no retraction. There are 4 billion women.
You cant meet them all.
So what number are you gonna back to?

>>82674820
"Cucked" wasnt meant as an insult but literally. Using my ressources (time and efforts) for other men's kids is the very definition of cuckoldry

>>82674847
I think women should also seek to better society. I think humans should treat other humans with respect

>>82674820
>Imagine being so misanthropic that a phrase like "make the world a better place" makes you recoil.
That is feminism duh.

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>>82674864
>I think women should also seek to better society.
So tell me in great detail what plan they should follow for that and how do you promote this plan.

>>82674864
Your bettering society is just making everything gay. You rely on aesthetics. Everyone happily hold hands and all the problems go away :)
Kill yourself and I hope you burn in hell

See, I want you dead for no reason. People aren't rational, stop living in fantasy land, slut

>>82674854
I'm not repeating myself. Keep meeting women until one of the 4 billion suck your dick and becomes your tradwife. Or don't- just don't make your life about bitching about all women if you've given up.
>>82674863
No. A cuck specifically refers to a man who takes care of his wife's illegitimate offspring. I want to be like a step father, a man who takes care of those who need a father.

>>82674885
>I'm not repeating myself.
You continue to repeat 4 billions number.
Lets get real how many women do you believe its possible to actually meet?

>>82673615
>Statiscally there IS a young woman out there
Lmao, even.

>>82674866
Feminism is "kill cis men!" I'm egalitarian, o algo.
>>82674876
Replace third wave feminism with self determination. Women shouldn't be blaming all men for everything bad that happens in their lives. Many of them have victim mentalities too. And teach all people, men and women, morals and respect. This all starts at the home, you cannot wish to change society without trying to create a family (clan, group of friends, etc) first.
>>82674884
>You rely on aesthetics. Everyone happily hold hands and all the problems go away :)
>Kill yourself and I hope you burn in hell
>See, I want you dead for no reason. People aren't rational, stop living in fantasy land, slut
You aren't rational, but I won't say people in general aren't rational. We can be a slave to our emotions but I think most of us try to make level headed choices.
>>82674899
Depends on how much you get out. But if you see a new woman everyday, you can meet about 350 new women every year, and after a few years you would've met thousands (fraction of a fraction of a percent of how many women exist). You literally have an unlimited supply of women you can talk to. That's my new number: practically unlimited. So go meet some hot babes anon!

>>82674864
>women should also seek to better society.
They could do that by having sex with me and fellow ugly men. But they dont. Ive worked, r3and im still working, ive done my part, its time for them to do theirs.

>>82674963
Is it sex you want or a relationship? Sex for the sake of having sex doesn't contribute anything to society.

>>82674950
>but I think most of us try to make level headed choices
So you're against generation but now is generalizing? Did you talked with all 8 billion people to know if people are mostly rational?

>>82674950
>you can meet about 350 new women every year, and after a few years you would've met thousands (fraction of a fraction of a percent of how many women exist).
So your 4 billions deflated to 4 thousands. 1 million times. Quite a deflation!
Next time start you preaching with
>there are 4 thousand women waiting for you approach

>>82674983
I said most, not all. I also said I think while you are making an (in)factual statement.

>>82674950
>Replace third wave feminism with self determination. Women shouldn't be blaming all men for everything bad that happens in their lives. Many of them have victim mentalities too. And teach all people, men and women, morals and respect. This all starts at the home, you cannot wish to change society without trying to create a family (clan, group of friends, etc) first.
I dont see how do you plan to do that and how do you promote this plan right now and before.
Chop chop. You have a job to do. To make women better women. Get to work.

>>82675002
And I think most women are worthless sluts. How is that any different, tard?

>>82674994
Uh, no. Those numbers are variable. If you met ten new women a day thats 3500 in a year, and tens of thousands after a few years. I'm not really understanding your "gotcha" moment. There are 4 billion women on earth. For you that's practically an infinite amount of women. The numbers are so huge numbers no longer matter

>>82674836
>Women fuck men they hate all the time
Lmao wtf how can you believe that ?
>i hate this guy... which is why im gonna give him what he wants! That will show him!

>>82674980
>Is it sex you want or a relationship?
A relationship (with sex) is obviously better but i get nothing right now so im not gonna turn down sex
>>82674980
>Sex for the sake of having sex doesn't contribute anything to society.
Sex makes one happy cause it gives pleasure.
Happy workers are productive workers btw, since you care so much about me working. I could work much harder if I got sex

ANY WOMAN WEARING FAKE NAILS OR NAIL POLISH SHOULD NOT BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES
THAT IS ALL
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION REGARDING THIS MATTER

>>82675018
You said people aren't rational. I don't believe in these simplistic statements.
>>82675007
>Chop chop. You have a job to do. To make women better women. Get to work.
I'll try. Also there is no "chop chop". Change, especially societal change, doesn't happen overnight. I recognize I myself cannot make all of society better without power, but I can do what's within my power - continue to grind, find and redpill a qt girl, have kids, and teach them right from wrong and to do what I've done and help people. That's what I can do, and if it doesn't work, what matters is that I don't give in. If I can't get a girl, then find some bros and make an intellectual space. Many things we can do

>>82675020
>If you met ten new women a day thats 3500 in a year,
That is pure imposisblty.

>There are 4 billion women on earth.
But you can only meet 4000. For you personal life others effectively dont exist. Like dont exist women leaving on teh another planet (technically they can exist but this doesnt matter you will never meet them the same)

>>82673310
I hate women because every woman I've ever known has put me into three categories: student, annoyance, gay best friend. I'll tolerate being a student but I don't want to be your fucking gay best friend and I don't appreciate being emasculated. I hate being an annoyance but at least those bitches keep it real with me and I know not to bark up that tree anymore. But despite having female friends and mentors my entire life I've never felt any sort of intimate love or longing and for that I will never forgive the female sex.

>>82675051
So you are telling men to be better men but dont tell women to be better women.
Do we need to know more?
We dont.

I'm not gay and I meant I've never felt any sort of intimate love or longing from women, or if I have I was oblivious to it.

>>82675020
>4 billions
Okay, tard. Let's say you live in America, it has one of the highest women population of around 170 millions
If you don't want women above 30 that goes down to 60 millions
You don't want to go jail so only women above 16 too. That goes down to 22 millions
Single goes down to 10 millions

That's without considering appearance, virginity and others standards. That sounds quite a lot but unless you live in New York, there's only thousands of those per city

>>82675025
Then why do wives divorce their husbands all the time? Or why do some women hate being in an arranged marriage? You also forget about rape. Women are sly tricksters, they can many times use sex to get men to do what they want. I'm surprised this isn't obvious to you. They don't fuck men cuz they necessarily like them, most of the time it's because sex is transactional to a woman.
>>82675037
Sex makes the individual happy, but it doesn't necessarily make the society better. In fact unsafe sex will cause STDs and unwanted pregnacies, which are not good things. It can be a motivator indeed but sex for the sake of sex adds no value. If you want sex for the sake of sex literally just prostitute (go to a country where it's legal). But I know you want deeper than that, you want sex with not any woman but THE woman. In that case you have to just play the patient game and focus on self improvement

>>82675083
>but dont tell women to be better women.
>Do we need to know more?
>We dont.
Yes. You guys are so focused about what women do that you neglect your own wellbeing. You CAN tell women to try and be better women but you're not gonna be successful, just like me telling you to be a better man will only go so far. We can encourage them but if we do not seek to better our own lives first we cannot better anyone else's life, let alone tell people how they should live.

>>82675108
>and unwanted pregnacies, which are not good things
If society considered unwanted pregnancies bad, society would punish them like make them illegal or something.
But society supports single mothers instead.

>>82675088
>Single goes down to 10 millions
So you have 10 million options. Get to work, pardner. If you met a hundred new women every single say for the rest of your life (you'll live long so say... 70 years) you would've met only a quarter of the single women in America... and that's just the single women who are alive right now.

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>>82675134
>You guys are so focused about what women
This is why you cry about MGTOW so hard?
>stop be focused about women
>NOOOO! not like this!

>>82675108
>Then why do wives divorce their husbands all the time? Or why do some women hate being in an arranged marriage? You also forget about rape. Women are sly tricksters, they can many times use sex to get men to do what they want. I'm surprised this isn't obvious to you. They don't fuck men cuz they necessarily like them, most of the time it's because sex is transactional to a woman.
Yes it used to be transactional and now thats feminism controls the institution they can just steal from us through taxes and exploit us like the capitalists they are
>You also forget about rape.
Are you advicing me to rape ?
>Sex makes the individual happy
>but sex for the sake of sex adds no value
Me when im retarded :skull:
>In fact unsafe sex will cause STDs and unwanted pregnacies, which are not good things
A small price to pay. The benefits outweigh the damage by far
>But I know you want deeper than that
Yeah exclusivity, as in, having one foid just for me, would be better, but I'll take causal sex over nothing
>not any woman but THE woman
They are all the same
>In that case you have to just play the patient game and focus on self improvement
You dont know shit about me, I already improved. Nothing changed, im still ugly and autist

Go spread your rightwing faggotry on pol or x

>>82675150
>(you'll live long so say... 70 years)
Time to seek partner is 27 years at most, 18 to 45.
12 years to seek wife, 18 to 30.

>>82675135
>>82675135
We should support single mothers because someone has to take care of the child. It's a fucked up situation to force a woman to care for a child by herself while the dad fucks other women and adds to the problem of fatherless retards. If you make unwanted pregnacies illegal what does that really solve? There are already multiple deterrents for both the woman and the father. And will punishing either really help the child?

>>82675134
>you neglect your own wellbeing
Its the opposite. Youre the one telling us to sacrifice ourselves for foids, while we tell you we would rather put ourselves first

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>>82675172
The absolute state of redpill rightwingers JFL

>>82675172
>It's a fucked up situation to force a woman to care for a child by herself while the dad fucks other women and adds to the problem of fatherless retards.
Juts make motherhood outside marriage a felony.
Problem solved.
No more fucked up situations.

>>82675150
Didn't you read where I said there's only a handful of thousands per city? Unless you change cities every half a year, you're going to keep recycling the old ones

>>82675159
When did i cry about MGTOW? Men SHOULD go their own way. That means stop bitching about women. You haven't gone your own way if you care about the whims of deluded feminists.
>>82675166
If nothing has changed then objectively you haven't improved. You're ugly and autistic. But have you tried to lose weight? Have you tried to make a game, or music, or build something for yourself? It really just sounds like to me you prioritize sex in life above all else. If you believe ugly you genuinely need to find new priorities in life because you will continue to disappoint yourself. You equate all women... which is crazy. A skinny snowbunny from Norway is the same as a fat black mama from Kenya? So progressive, chud! (Notice the sarcasm?) If sex is your number one priority then unironically prostitute. You clearly don't care about a relationship since all women are the same to you. So just find some roast beef

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>>82673310
Beanie, just turn your trip back on already. I can tell it's you, even when you change up your writing style

>>82675211
>When did i cry about MGTOW?
Right here
>>82674404
>I agree that MGTOW and third wave feminism has ruined gender relations (for the terminally online and super political at least)

>>82675174
Where did i say sacrifice for foids? I said make the world a better place.
>uhh but foids live in the world so that means make the world better for foids!
This is trivially true. You shouldn't care, but if you do, just make the world better for men. Stop with the excuses for having a shitty worldview
>>82675181
It's amazing you think im right wing, because I'd get called a commie Jew shitskin on /pol/ for saying the same thing.
>>82675185
That doesn't solve the situation. You're just throwing mothers in jail. What about the fathers abandoning their kids? What about the kid? You're not solving anything. People are still going to have sex outside of marriage and unwanted pregnacies.
>>82675203
Okay, then go to new cities.

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>>82675234
If you see my following post, you'll recognize that I made a typo and apologized for it.
>>82675226
Who? If I was a tripfag I would just hse my trip. I'm just a nigger who wants a cute waifu.

>>82675211
>have you tried to lose weight?
Nigger im a construction worker i climb on roof for a living do you think i could do that if I wasnt fit ?
>Have you tried to make a game, or music
Tried, and failed. Talent is genetic like... almost everything
>build something for yourself?
Yeah i make wooden furniture for myself but idk how that will help get sex
>snowbunny
JFL at the absolue state of cuckservatives

>>82675248
>What about the fathers abandoning their kids?
Make no fault divorce illegal too.

>People are still going to have sex outside of marriage and unwanted pregnacies.
You are pessimist. Like people would stil rape if we make rape illgal. What? We should make rape legal? Think for a second.

Goof thing good, promote it!
Bad thing bad, ban it!
its that simple.

>>82675248
>People are still going to have sex outside of marriage and unwanted pregnacies.
Make that illegal too then

>>82675248
>Where did i say sacrifice for foids?
You implied it by saying men should work for others instead of focusing on themselves, but women shouldnt because uhh ummm uhhh THEY JUST SHOULDNT OK CHUD ?

>>82675274
>Yeah i make wooden furniture for myself
Very cool ngl
>idk how that will help get sex
It's not about having sex. It's about enjoying the craft and creating something that's your own. If you show it off to chicks tho it might get them a bit wet
>JFL at the absolue state of cuckservatives
I'm a conservative in that I think you shouldn't just tear down institutions and burn shit like a nigger because "woman bad!"

>>82675292
>If you show it off to chicks tho it might get them a bit wet
They dry like the Sahara when they see my face though
>>82675292
>I'm a conservative in that I think you shouldn't just tear down institutions and burn shit like a nigger because "woman bad!"
Yes. Thats all cuckservatives do, preserving the status quoi. "Both sides are bad" as if women werent insanely worse than men

>>82675279
>Like people would stil rape if we make rape illgal. What? We should make rape legal? Think for a second.
Not the "gotcha" you think it is. People DO rape and it IS illegal. It rightfully is illegal but people will do it anyways. Fentanyl is illegal and yet there's a huge fent crisis. "Legality" means very little. Government action does. Okay, the government throws couples who have sex outside of marriage in jail. Then what? Can the government realistically enforce that? And if they have children, what happens then? Also, am I talking to the commie, nazi, or someone else? We're in so many layers of irony now
>>82675291
>but women shouldnt because uhh ummm uhhh THEY JUST SHOULDNT OK CHUD ?
I said women should.

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I don't hate women, I just refuse to deal with them in ways that won't benefit me. Men's red pill is just female default setting.

>>82675325
>They dry like the Sahara when they see my face though
What do we tell women to do? Lighten up and smile more toots, women aren't into men who are angry all the time. In all seriousness though so what? You could be butt fugly and still get pussy like that ugly nigger Welvin da Great. Also, i clearly don't want to preserve the status quo. We should improve society, not keep shit stagnant.

>>82675340
>"Legality" means very little
It does, to a certain extent. The police realistically won't sent to jail someone that steals apples, they don't have time and resources for such petty crimes, but that makes people second guess their actions

>>82675370
It's a deterrent for people who respect the law but for people who don't, they're still going to do it anyways. But the law without threat of government action is just words on a paper.

>>82673515
>I would but they dont want me either
Then what's the problem? You're unfuckable to all women, download grindr and have fun.

>>82675391
Better than nothing. There's no solution that immediately ends the problem

>>82675409
>least obvious trooncord groomer

>>82675411
>There's no solution that immediately ends the problem
I agree. I just don't think your solution would be effective. In serving as a deterrent it's effective, but it doesn't solve the issue of single parenting. Well, it does, but you've created new issues. If we go full sharia law and jail for sex outside of marriage, if bastards are born what then? And mind you, this whole "sex outside of marriage" thing is very Judeochristian. Good luck convincing a secular populace to put religious law into our government.

>>82673475
You have to attract a woman first.

>>82675353
>women aren't into men who are angry all the time
Do you think I act irl like i do online ?

Tbh you sound very young, if youre not lying, cause there's no way you think you will still be "grinding and improving urself" when you will be like 35yo and still virgin. When you will reach that point, you will give up on your idealism, and all you will think of is killing yourself or others, probably both

Eother way i wish you good luck in finding you redpill tradwife, and as for me, im going to bed, im back on the construction site tomorrow. Great life!

>>82673982
Why do incels make these weird strawman arguments?

There's no morality in sex and dating. Pretty sure every kid learns this by age 16. Pretty sure every philosopher for over 1000 yrs has talked about this. Darwin talked about this. You guys regurgitate dead arguments and pretend to be profound.

>>82675453
>Good luck convincing a secular populace to put religious law into our government
The government pushes laws that nobody wants all the time. If nobody likes it anyway, at least make it something positive instead of some random law that protects pedos

>>82675482
>There's no morality in sex and dating
What?
>Pretty sure every philosopher for over 1000 yrs has talked about this. Darwin talked about this
Holy kek

You somehow managed to be the dumbest in this thread

>>82675494
Bad and evil people date all the time. Your gay cartoon is trying to make a moralistic argument when humans dont work that way.

>>82675457
I am young and admittedly there is a lot I don't know. Even though I disagree with the doomerism I do value and appreciate your opinion as an older man and I will consider your warning. I still think it's possible for you and I don't think you should swear off women just yet. Good luck at work boss

>>82675547
>Bad and evil people date all the time
Thats literally what incels say

>>82673310
>gender war grift
What grift? My resentment comes from my personal experiences with women. Many men have had similar experiences, and sometimes I can relate to them. That's all.

>>82675573
Yes and its not a profound fact. The Iliad is full of truths like this.

>>82675588
Having negative experiences is one thing. Listening to shitheads on the internet talk about how you should buy their course to become a sigma male is another thing. I sympathize with the former and have disdain for the latter

>>82675487
>nobody likes it anyway, at least make it something positive
I dont think where you are coming from is an inherently negative place but I think a law like that would have impacts on society, and not in any sort of predictable or positive way

>>82675589
Yet almost everyone tell us we are incels because we are bad and evil o algo

>>82675689
Incels care a little too much about what people think about them, especially randos on the internet.

>>82675595
>Listening to shitheads on the internet talk about how you should buy their course to become a sigma male is another thing.
I don't do that. I think the men who do it are depressed and desperate for other people's approval, basically they care too much. I genuinely don't care about women and normgroids in general, I'm severely balding and I go to work without shaving or cutting my hair while wearing my ugly oversized hoodie which makes me look unkempt as fuck and I genuinely don't give a fuck what people think.

>>82675689
Incels are a mixture of bad, retarded and disabled. None of you have positive dark triad traits, I've seen fucking homeless addicts with girls. You guys spend too much time fighting women online instead fighting them irl. Every man should be able to attract at least one crazy girl in their lifetime.

>>82673310
100% right idk why young kids these days let their minds be purged by online media. Gender War is a lie and only pathetic miserable losers partake in such degeneracy.

>>82675733
>I'm severely balding and I go to work without shaving or cutting my hair while wearing my ugly oversized hoodie which makes me look unkempt as fuck and I genuinely don't give a fuck what people think.
Unironically based.

>>82675836
>these days
Lets not pretend Boomers, Gen X, Millennials are also not brainwashed by the media.

>women are whores
>le gender war
I'm just telling the truth

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Welp, it seems like the thread died so I would like to thank the Anons who entertained my discussion. Despite the name calling and despite what you may believe about me, I've argued my genuine position and I appreciate you all sharing yours. Talking to people is always step 1 in making the world better. I think what you say is bullshit but you still need to be heard because you are still human and I will fight for your right to say it. Original post btw

>>82676117
Thank you, enlightened centrist.

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>>82673310
Consider the following original thought.

>both sides bad despite one side having 90% of the blame and the other one being reactionary
Thanks for your input