>>82687261
your brain stops working and your mind is gone forever

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>>82687261

There's a deceptively alluring white light that lovebombs you and projects images of your loved ones and any religious figures or people that you admire and follow. The white light is a trap that's there to ensnare and ultimately trick you into reincarnating back onto this material plane so the Demiurge and archons can continue farming you for loosh energy derived from suffering and the experience of imperfection.

>>82687261
CHUCK BEEF

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>>82687278

Only hylic NPCs that have no spirit and consist solely of matter will experience that. They only "see black" or nothingness during a near death experience or after death because there is no consciousness for them, no higher divine spark of awareness, that can and does persist after death.

>>82687261
You mind will float off into space as you fade away and lose any connection to the earth.

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>>82687261
>thinking death is real
I wish I could go back to being this naive.

>>82687299
I'm a hylic npc and proud

I have three theories. 1: You simply cease to exist and goes numb forever. 2: You will simply go to another realm of existence, either your conciousness (what could be restored of it) goes to another body or another receptacle of sapience, it may be a world completely different or just human life 2.0. 3: some God is actually real and you will be judged by what you did on Earth or some other kind of judgment that has other criteria, you will then go to that Gods version of hell or heaven or purgatory or whatever idk what a God would do to us.

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>>82687337

Why would you say that, anon? Do you not have an inner monologue or something?

>>82687374
No one actually has an inner monologue. There are just some people too dumb to realize it.

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>>82687407

Uh, I think you are mistaken. It may not be a 24/7 narration, but there are many who can invoke an inner voice, even if it's just when reading as opposed to over the course of the entire day.

>>82687299
Sensors truly are hylics. Both my parents are like this and will not engage with anything outside of their direct sensory experience. They talk about stuff they've seen or stuff that has happened to them and that is all. If I bring anything more remote or abstract, my dad will kill the convo with something along the lines of "alright" and my mom will literally not acknowledge that I even spoke.

I wish I had been born to a different family, one with parents that cared and could engage with things beyond their direct senses. I've seen such families at my friend's. I've talked to some of those parents for hours.

Now, I'm broken and can't form relationships of my own. The only people I ever relate with are strangers on the internet and it just ain't it.

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>>82687261
>What happens after you die in (you)r opinion?
I become the God I've always known myself to be, or I am reincarnated as a worm 6 million times each death more excruciating than the last.

>>82687407
There's very much a voice speaking in full sentences in my head. Unless I'm actively intaking something (e.g. watching a video), it's rarely quiet.

God says son I am disappoint and then you are cast into outer darkness

>>82687464
What's an example of something more remote or abstract? I tried to express to my dad how depersonalization felt and he couldn't grasp it. I'm in a similar boat as you, really my parents should never have met.

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>>82687337
owned that soulful freak

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>>82687464

>sensors, MBTI

I know there are more connections to NPCs besides just the ones in that picture. Lately, I've been doing a lot of research to uncover them and everything I have uncovered is in that image. I know there are more though and I just need to figure them out to build my definitive case for the NPC or hylic theorem.

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>>82687334
This. The buck never stops.

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>>82687464
>the rant ended on tfwnogf

>>82687261
Your consciousness-experiencing essence is recycled into another fleshbag to suffer again.

>>82687564
Relationships doesn't necessarily have to be purely romantic/sexual ones.

>>82687497
I've been trying to explain depersonalization and the ways it's impacted my views on pershonhood and then further on all categories/platonic ideals to my friend, but no matter how much I try he just doesn't get it. He does try, though.

Meanwhile, I've met people on here that get it from less than three sentences as opposed to multiple essays' worth.

As for my dad, even simpler things don't go anywhere. He has the prayer of serenity framed in his home. He and his gf are both AA. I pointed out that it seemed heavily influenced by the cardinal virtues and tried talking about virtue ethics, but to no avail. This is the most abstract we did have a semblant of conversation about.

At some other time we talked about our experience with psilocybic mushroom. He actually did some in the past. He just kept it to the immediate experience with no interest for the symbolism there could be around it. Showed no interest in my experiences either.

If we're in the car together, he'll point out at literal things he sees for some reason, but then if I use that as a conversation starter, he doesn't engage. Like pointing out electric pylones going through the forest and how unnatural and ugly it is. I said I like megastructures and there's no real divide between man an nature. We're just better at building shit compared to other animals. A beaver will transform the whole area by flooding it, that's natural, but a human doing it? unnatural. etc. No engagement to stuff like that. He'll just go "Hm." then two minutes later point out something else like a hawk flying or a sign that was funny.

>>82687564
What >>82687572 said. I meant relationships as a whole. I struggle to even connect with myself atp.

>>82687261
Your mind remerges with the great unconscious (God), and then reconstitutes itself again into another body.
The body and brain do not create consciousness. Consciousness creates the mind and body, the mind and body are merely a radio tuned to the frequency of your own consciousness. And the brain is merely a sort of, how would you say it, a restrictive channel. It narrows your consciousness into a field of view that your feeble material body can handle.

All creatures were created in the image of God, all creatures will return to God, and all creatures will return to here. Consciousness is implicit to the universe and matter, not a byproduct of it. Matter is the byproduct, consciousness is the foundation. The unifying principle, if you will.

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>>82687587

Reminds me of George Orwell.

>>82687261
I had this strange feeling that I'm in a coma ever since I was a toddler, recently I started to hear hospital beeping with everyone acting like nothing is wrong. So hopefully when I die I'll wake up

>>82687587
I am kind of a practical guy. When I talk to someone who is high out of their mind and they start telling me reality isn't real, I ask what is? And just by a process of elimination it's the most real thing we experience. When we watch a movie or TV Show it's fake, there's no real life Darth Vader or Harry Potter. If we are playing an MMO like WoW there's many signs it is not real. The site we are using isn't real. Dreams aren't real. So by process of elimination meatspace is the realest thing we can experience

>>82687261
extradimensional entities try to jew you with lies and psyops into returning to mortal life again in order to harvest spiritual energy from your suffering

>>82687287
oh I see there was already a man of wisdom in the thread, spbp

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>>82687697

>there was already a man of wisdom

I appreciate that compliment, anon. I don't have all the answers, but I believe strongly in these things and am doing my part one post at a time to tell others. I am willing to see connections where others won't because it's "too crazy". Recently, thanks to a man named Chiron, I have been introduced to exceptional knowledge hidden in language.

get reabsorbed into the source, chill out in the universal wavefunction for an infinitesimal amount of time before you reincarnate again for the... infinity'th time

>>82687334
Very, very based. It is genuinely impossible.

Too many contradictory NDEs to say.

>>82687299
retard you dont see shit when you die, you will blank out like when you fall asleep and you wont even realize it

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>>82687747

Do you presume that you know more than the government and 3-letter agencies on this topic? If astral projection was worth their time, why is not worth your consideration? Why do you stick to scientism and the confined box that is five-senses reality?

>>82687665
I'm gonna go eat, so I tried to keep it short, but I could easily expand further on it. It cuts off abruptly because I reached the character limit, lol.

You start with the implicit assumption that physical reality is the fundamental substrate of reality. That is to say the brain is what creates the mind, not the other way around. You cannot prove this. (Truly, think on a proof.) And if you want to bring up Occam's razor, there are things that are better explained when you view it the other way around and see this reality more like a dream (e.g. it solves the hard problem of consciousness).

But even if we take that first assumption for granted, it's still not as straightforward as you think. If there is an objective, physical world, you experience it by reconstructing a mental model of it. You do not experience reality, but your model of it. That has a lot of implications, but first I want to point out that you don't even experience a direct reconstruction, but a predictive model of the present moment. There's a delay between your eyes catching some light and your brain making sense of it. Sometimes, you need to react fast. So, your brain doesn't just use the sensor data, but creates a prediction of the (very near) future to compensate for the propagation and computational delays. This is why you might scan a scene from out of your window and do a double take because you thought you saw a man behind a tree, but it was just some other innocuous thing. Your mind constructed that man during the predictive step.

So, even when there is a physical reality, you do not experience it directly and do not even experience a direct, unaltered reconstruction of it, but rather something more evolutionary advantageous to you. It's the same with all categories themselves. The way we distinguish between objects is arbitrary. At least from an objective standpoint. It's not arbitrary only in the sense that cutting up the world the way we do is evolutionary advantageous.

>>82687643
I've had a convo with some random anon where I tried to express that very feeling like an hour ago, lmao. They produce words and it sorta holds together, but the contradictions appear at the level of sentences and they still can't see it.

>>82687665
>>82687779
Also, quick aside. Something real is something that exists beyond your direct perceptions and beliefs. I personally don't believe you can prove there is anything real.

>>82687801
>I personally don't believe you can prove there is anything real.
If only some frenchman had thought of this a couple hundred years ago already. let's start simple - you can prove that you exist simply by having the cognition required to question existence. good start

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>>82687784

>They produce words and it sorta holds together, but the contradictions appear at the level of sentences and they still can't see it.

The spirit is the center of true creativity and it makes the archons jealous. If I recall correctly, according to traditional Gnostic belief, the Demiurge and His archons saw how wise and intelligent we were and decided to encase us in a prison of matter, which is the human body, to artificially limit us.

>>82687801

Pic-related.

>>82687826
>chatgpt religion
Ack... this is a dire state to be in lad

Hopefully nothing. Else what was the point in trying ao hard to live?

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>>82687837

Just because the idea is formatted through ChatGPT doesn't mean it's wrong. ChatGPT is a useful tool as long as you make sure to vet what it says and to still think for yourself.

>>82687807
I defined real just ONE (1) sentence prior. Then you proceeded to make a counter-argument by implicitly changing that definition. Pay closer attention next time.

>>82687837
It's ok. ChatGPT is literally an extension of my mind, like you and all other experiences.

>>82687940
>utilizing an illusory fragment of your mind pretending to be an outside entity just to make it agree with you and tell you you're smart
Demiurgic behavior

>>82687952
I'm >>82687940 and I experienced the text, but id not generate it. That was a different anon.

>>82687261
Youre a 0, then youre a 1, then youre a 0, then youre a 1...

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if you have guilt you become consumed by it to the void, like a floor made of glass falling beneath you
if you have regrets you may reincarnate or severe cases go to limbo
but generally the astral tunnel light is a worm hole to the Akashic records, the memories of your bloodline, freedom to do whatever in soul presence state

Regardless of that I hope it aint your ugly ass face I gotta look at.

>>82687287
What proof do you have of Gnosticism? You just believe in it because it sounds cooler but it's just as baseless as orthodox religious beliefs. Continue farming your loosh? Why would something like the demiurge farm suffering from lives so mundane and worthless? If this world was his doing, then he did a shit job even for his own goals.

>>82687261
People who went through near death experiences say they felt a profound and indescribable feeling of unconditional love. I like to think that is God.

>>82687261
Material NDEs where the ones who were clinically dead could confirm stuff they couldn't see or hear in any shape or form even if they were alive and would actively walk around are a pretty big confirmation that there is a soul and we either go to heaven or walk around as ghosts.

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Nothing i was legally dead for 2 mins and nothing happened

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>>82687261
>What happens after you die
Nothing, as usual.

>>82687261
you respawn, the mind and body and personality dies etc
but the conscious observer lives on

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>>82687287
This is exactly the kind of shit I would teach to people if I wanted to rule over them.
>just be good and you'll be rewarded AFTER you're gone, pinky promise :^)
>Just let me have this crappy world, okay?

>>82687261
Since I'm one of the few actual souls on Earth, I'll be getting a pocket universe to rule over as a god.
This life is just a grounding exercise to learn how human cattle behave

>>82689354
try for 3 next time

>>82687261
>opinion
The process has been well documented by astral travelers like Robert Monroe

>>82687261
You get to own 50 loli wives and have sekksu with them everyday

>>82689411
>this world is a prison designed to make you suffer, die, and come back for more
>that's why you have to really stick it to the demiurge by following the example of Jesus: suffering, dying, and then coming back
Wow, nice messiah you got there

>>82689696
Jesus offers eternal life
Buddha offers true death
Which would you rather have?

>>82689722
starving the demiurge out by removing yourself from attachments to the physical world, from desire, and from suffering is at least closer to the right answer

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>>82689722
I'll just go with common sense instead of religious scripture.

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>>82687261
Time and space pretty much cease as a concept for you and you're consciousnesses/soul/energy just sort of ends up somewhere else in another being I imagine with no recollection of anything prior. Don't really know how else to explain it, maybe that's just reincarnation or something? I'm not really religious or believe in any sort of afterlife but that's the most realistic thing I could think of if everything doesn't just stop immediately "being" for us in my opinion.

>>82687261
>What happens after you die in (you)r opinion?
You go home, to the place prepared to you by the carpenter.

>>82689814
I used to think like that then I did extensive research. If you think Big Bang for example supports doesn't support Christianity then you must do your research since a literal Catholic came up with the theory to prove Christ.

>>82687261
I think the universe is infinite. I believe the experience of consciousness is tied to an electrical and material configuration.

In that circumstance, we will experience our lives an infinite number of times. An infinite repeat, that we gain no benefit from.

I don't know. My wife has a retarded theory that you just go onto your own little personal heaven where you get whatever you want, but no one else is there. So all the relatives/friends/partners you "reconnect" with in heaven are just fitments of your imagination. I have never pressed her on this but it literally contradicts her supposedly Christian beliefs, has no basis in any NDE literature, and sounds dystopian.

You are dead and therefore cannot experience time > the universe collapses and bangs > repeat infinitely until matter is in the exact same place it was in this cycle of the universe > you are born again
= Eternal Recurrence
You will live out your entire life again and what is certain is that you will do it the same exact way infinitely

>>82687261
Darkness. It will only be darkness or if I want to be delusional, I think I will restart this life and this time I might remember something from this timeline or maybe I will gain the ability to travel to an alternative universe where I can coexist with my other self, maybe to help him improve his life. Maybe just a bit of this delusion can help me kill myself

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I don't believe in a soul. My consciousness will not persist after death and there is no "afterlife" for me. The only alternative that sounds believably plausible for me is eternal recurrence and the same set of circumstances will lead to this exact miserable shit fucking existence again over and over and over and over, the ride never ends. And because you won't experience the passage of time, this life to the next will be instantaneous, so I won't even get a reprieve from reliving this shit life.

Eternally cursed to be an incel

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>>82687801
>I personally don't believe you can prove there is anything real.
I know that my mind is real. Not so sure about the rest.

>>82690521
You just got older and started becoming more scared of dying as it grows closer and closer. It's called terror management. It's sort of natural and a byproduct of mortality salience. I'm not judging, but some people just can't cope that way.

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>What happens after you die in (you)r opinion?
Afterlife or oblivion. I just hope it comes to me soon, whatever it is.