Blackpillers think sex between a man and a woman should be a sacred act to be done only between two people who love each other, to the point where they think paying for sex is a stain on one's soul (souls don't exist by the way). Feminists think sex is a priviledge to be given to a man by a woman after a long process of courtship, and that paid sex is a form of violence because it bypass this imagined prerequisite.Blackpill incels could easily end their suffering by paying for sex but they refuse because, much like feminists, they assign divine or ritualistic qualities to the act itself that always happen to require submission to and approval from the female part.In the end, blackpillers are just pessimistic, incelic bluepillers.
>>82690232Furthers my theory that all incels are fembrained
>>82690232>>82690232>fuck whores>still lonely>still blackpilledalright thanks nigga
>>82690257Very fembrained as the other anon said.
>>82690232>blackpillers are feministsThe proper term is "blackpill", not "blackpiller". A person who took the redpill in the matrix series was referred to as a "redpill" not "redpiller".Also, blackpills are not ideologically tied to anyone, it's nothing more than observation. The only thing you're halfway correct about is that women play a crucial part in this mindset, because they are the ones committing, displaying and confessing every act on which these observations are built.All in all, shit bait.
>>82690277Both blackpillers and feminists think female validation is the most important thing to acquire as a man.
>>82690327and that's how most people feel so it's a valid observation, what are we even talking about?
>>82690232>Blackpillers think sex between a man and a woman should be a sacred act to be done only between two people who love each other, to the point where they think paying for sex is a stain on one's soul (souls don't exist by the way). Feminists think sex is a priviledge to be given to a man by a woman after a long process of courtship, and that paid sex is a form of violence because it bypass this imagined prerequisite.All wrong btw>Blackpill incels could easily end their suffering by paying for sex but they refuse because, much like feminists, they assign divine or ritualistic qualities to the act itself that always happen to require submission to and approval from the female part.No its because its expensive and illegal
Feminist incels have become incredibly triggered upon being exposed, I see.
>>82690556>No its because its expensive and illegalEven in feminist states where it's illegal, it's still easy as piss to hire an escort for "companionship" and then fuck her, because no government can do anything about what two consenting adults do in their privacy.>All wrongIt is, in fact, all right.
>>82690751There's nothing wrong with incels supporting feminism, incels aren't a monolith. I too support feminism because it's pointless to force a system that's built on deluding ourselves. If women just naturally hate men and prefer living this way then it is what it is, the heart wants what the heart wants. Nothing that goes against the grain is built to last.
>>82690773And men naturally want to have sex without jumping through a million hoops, why should one side adhere to nature but the other be forced to go against the grain, like you said? Fact is, the world has been feminist for a much shorter time than it has been non-feminist.
>>82690827Dude it's not even about feminism itself, man you people are so fucking retarded it's actually painful.Every single society came apart the same way ours is coming apart right now. It's inevitable, women can not abide it, they will always collectivize and men are not built to contain them for a prolonged time period. In short, you won't do shit. You will look at what's happening with the birthrates, the weaponization of female in-group preference and the womb and you will accept it as a fact of life like everyone else. Keep replying with more stupid shit, I'll feed you all the (You)s you want.
>>82690234As an incel, I think I might genuinely be fembrained. Good thing I don't have gender dysphoria
>>82690232Feminism is the belief that the society is a patriarchy, which should be abolished. If you don't believe that, you aren't a feminist.
>>82690950What if I believe that patriarchy should be abolished but all feminists want to uphold it, just modify it to benefit them
>>82690971Then you're just wrong. What feminists want is female supremacy.
>>82691083Key thing is female supremacy with chad on top. They want Chad to marry them and make the decisions (that they want subconsciously), which makes it into this stupid patriarchy where women and chad get want they want, and the others are left to rot.
>>82690232>Feminists think sex is a priviledge to be given to a man by a woman after a long process of courtship, and that paid sex is a form of violence because it bypass this imagined prerequisite.No they don't. You've never studied feminism. Most feminists are pro sex work now.
>>82690232actually most feminists are pro sex work so no
>>82690232Who says I have a problem being called a feminist?No feminist says that "sex is a privilege to be given after a long period of courtship". Entitled conservative women influencers with a bodycount of 50+ are the ones who say this.And I don't want hookers for exactly the feminist reason. I don't want to rape a woman, and you just never know if you're buying one.Sure, I don't want meaningless casual sex either, because it is empty. Not that I will ever be given that chance, women are not exactly in line to sleep with me
>>82690277blackpilloiders are still mentally retarded because they refuse to acknowledge natural gender roles. it's not an "observation" to call yourself ugly or unfuckable, it's feminist cope. looks are subjective, not objective, and they don't matter for men looking for relationships for the most part. falling for feminist garbage is taking feminists roles in this mindset, not women.
>>82691694>looks are subjective, not objectiveSo true, bestie.
>>82690950That's what the blackpill is. The only distinction is that blackedpillers believe that only a small percentage of men control the patriarchy, and that this is unfair to other men. Most blackedpillers either fall into a marxist-feminist mindset of wanting society to collapse and be rebuilt with "fairness" in mind, with a few exceptions who just want to expand the patriarchy to include them and give them full authoritarian control over women. But they still use feminist rhetoric whenever you ask them to just take that power and become good leaders for their own family, they think that they need to be handed authority from someone else and be "selected" by giga attractive women.>>82691720UWU
>>82691752>That's what the blackpill is.That's not what the blackpill is. Blackpill in its broadest definition is that your attractiveness as a man is permanently and possibly quite severely constrained by your immutable traits. That if you posses some set of them, there's nothing you can do to be desired by any woman. It has nothing to do with the core tenets of feminism. These are completely different ideologies with completely different applications.
>>82691752I can't even begin to explain how fucking retarded you are. People who type this shit up as bait actually believe some of it.
>>82691767"2cm of bone" attractiveness is just the metrosexual gay f*ggot metric that blackedpillers use to describe the patriarchy, they don't ideologically diverge from the core frustration with the patriarchy and nature of social hierarchies in general. They say 80% of women go for the top 0.1% of men, and that this is somehow unfair for other men. Looking at modern feminists who already have civil rights, they are equally as delusional, they are equally as marxist, and they are equally as hyperfixated on their identity as part of their gender group rather than their own actions and responsibilities within whatever hierarchy (community) they want to be a part of. If it was about attractiveness you could just tell them that their own dad had sex and it would destroy their whole argument.
>>82691805blackedpillbros... she's destroying our narrative.... this is not fair....
>>82691805You're torturing your definitions just to make them fit so fucking bad that I can hear the screams from here. What I told you is what those two ideologies are about. There is nothing in those definitions that overlaps. They are completely separate concepts with separate applications. Again, this is stretching so hard I can hear your limbs tearing from your body.
>>82691832Based 15 year old metaphormaxxer. It brings back so many memories when people do this cringey shit.
why is our narrative falling apart blackedpill bros... it was her turn....
>>82691851I see you have no arguments left. Perhaps it's for the better. If I had to listen to some more torturous explanations how two completely unrelated ideologies are "totally the same bro", I might go deaf.
>>82691867There was no argument. Some retarded kids just started using "lol XD randumbbbb" metaphors that had nothing to do with my post. Do you think billionaires and/or handsome Chads have an unfair advantage in society? Do you think "female privilege" is a real thing?
>>82690234They are basically the new version of those 2010's internet feminists, just endless whining and infesting every internet space with said whining. It always boils down to the same base argument>why can't women find feminine men like me attractive, why must women find masculinity attractive???And at that point you're already one foot into the troon grave.
>>82691874>Do you think billionaires and/or handsome Chads have an unfair advantage in society? Do you think "female privilege" is a real thing?This has NOTHING to do with the tents of the blackpill. The 80/20 rule has nothing to do with the tenets of the blackpill. Whatever singular hypothesis floating in blackpill spaces you can dig up has nothing to do with tenets of the black pill. That's like arguing an offshoot of radical feminism, which itself is a specific strain of feminism encompassed by the broader ideology, is equivalent to that broader ideology, and then trying to make connections with other ideologies and claiming they're the same. You have no understanding of neither feminism or the blackpill, and are only trying to make tenuous connections between them, based on superficial ideas floating withing those spaces, that are disconnected from the base ideological claims. It's completely fair to call out what you're doing as a massive stretch. It's like saying communism and nazism is the same, because the proponents of both supported political violence. It's beyond retarded and frankly not even worth engaging with.
>>82691939You simply wouldn't understand. I accept your concession.
>>82691939This post is exactly how I imagine most feminists behave. These whores literally cannot even answer a simple question or form a coherent sentence, it's all just emotional "girl power" shit. Wow you are so much smarter and have so much "understanding" that is "not worth engaging" I really believe you now!
>>82690232>Blackpillers are feministsYes, it has been said on here many times before. The average blackpiller is a feminist, in fact he's a stronger feminist than male or female normies by a lot. Anyone in a heterosexual relationship today has without question made some sort of feminist hypocrisy. It is impossible to both heterosexually date and be a feminist. They are mutually exclusive qualities.
>>82691939>gender has NOTHING to do with le blackpillThis. Men and women have the same opportunities in the dating market.
>>82692007>Feminism is everything I don't like, so everything I don't like is feminism!Listen. I don't like feminism myself. But this is just silly.
>>82692032Good thing that's not what I said.
>>82692041Nobody said it was what you said. It's just obvious that the blackpill shows men and women have equal success.
So by your logic a truecel who doesn't even want to interact with women is a stealth feministIt's no different from claiming that NEETs are technically supporting the status quo by opting out of society while reaping its supposed "benefits"You are using a fringe minority as a scapegoat for a problem exhibited by a much larger and more vocal subset of the population
Also this thread is most likely just a single tranny replying to xerself over and over insisting that hating women somehow makes you support third wave feminism. Literal asylum patient rhetoric
>>82692059>Nobody said it was what you said.Don't gaslight me, you fucking faggot. You replied to me with a purposefully twisted and inaccurate quote, and then made a snarky sarcastic remark about it. If you wanna act like that, then do it on >>>/lgbt/.
>>82692070Does the truecel believe that systemic injustices based on gender are fundamental to why he doesn't want to interact with women?
>>82692098>gaslightFeminist word.There was nothing sarcastic about what I posted.
>>82692101No, truecels believe that women are annoying. Would you like to respond in a manner that isn't applying circular logic? All you're doing is looping back to your OP as though its Gospel when dozens of people have disproven it.
>>82692112Retard, words have meanings. You acted like a faggot, was called on it, and then immediately retrieved to "I didn't do that, teehee". Again, fuck off to >>>/lgbt/. We don't need this deplorable faggot behavior around these parts.
There's a difference between the ideal world for me, an incel. And the world feminists wanted and created.Ideal world: sex is only done with the woman you love and spend your life with. In this world, people are careful to pick their other half. So they don't jump into bed, they get to meet the other person for a long time first. No casual easy sex, but most people get paired happily in a stable relationship. Getting paired is hard at first, but when you finally meet the one sex becomes easy with them.Much less ideal world: Casual sex for everyone. Relationships don't last. But anyone can fuck anybody else with zero effort. Everyone is a slut with zero standards. This is the world that gay men live in.Shit world we live in: This world is a fucked up combination of the previous too. But in a way that maximizes suffering for men and maximizes hedonism for degenerate women.In this world most men have to work hard to get laid. Dates are not meant to see if they're compatible. But a way for women to extract money and entretainment from men. Men have to be jesters for women, for crumbs of pussy. Buy her expensive jewelry, otherwise you are not a real man, you dont really know how to treat women and you don't deserve sex. If women love you, it's only transactionally. And while all this is going on, women do have easy casual sex with multiple hot guys. So you jester and work hard for a woman who slept with 20+ 10/10 guys on one night stands.
>>82692032*average men and obese women have the same opportunities in the dating marketFty
>>82692141Nobody was saying "teehee" you cringe retard. Were you the moron who used feminist "gaslight" language?
>>82692193Ah, yes, because the "teehee" part was the substance of my criticism. Are you going to claim it's invalid because of the way I use punctuation next? If what you're doing is gaslighting, I'm going to call it what it is, trying to say "uh, it's a word feminists use" doesn't change the fact of the matter, you faggot. Do you know what other words feminist use? "The". "Language". Etc. Welp, guess you're using feminist language. Pack it up lads. The moron who cannot engage in a conversation in good faith did a hypocrisy on top of being a dumb faggot.
>>82692223The fact that you default to talking like a feminist is the substance. Hypocrisy has literally nothing to do with my post. You have been brainwashed by feminism, simple as.
>>82692140Which part is circular? Dozens of truecels don't fall into the general trend, but thousands of them do. If you just think women are annoying, then you are not guilty of having delusions about systemic injustice/privilege
>>82690232>Itt oofy doofy copeMore that incels realize how rigged the dating market is and so are focusing on other aspects on life >>82691918But of course, you have retards like the above who think incels hate masculinity somehow. No you imbecile. We all know women care about the face first. We go by what we have seen in life ourselves not some delusional cope you have in the back of your mind.
>>826924991. Everyone knows that "shoes make the man." nobody has ever believed that a mans face has any meaningful influence, but you could argue that people group up in terms of height and weight. Still, it was always "shoes make the man" not face.2. if incels have no problem with masculinity, then they have no problem with natural gender roles. it's the man who has a dominant role in the relationship. he is not "selected", he is not "competing", and he is not looking for some kind of reciprocity or equal transaction from a woman. he can court and lead the woman, but his success is nearly entirely in his own hands, and in the worst possible case the incel would just look to other men, especially the fathers of daughters, to give guidance or support. if the incel thinks anything has to do with his muh face, he is already a feminist retard who was around for the "unrealistic beauty standards" myth meme.
>>82692548>natural gender rolesDuuuude, pleeese. Did you check law books? Natural gender laws were killed and buried many years ago by legal changes.
