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>>82803531
>do any of you anons /fa/?
No. I exclusively wear jeans and black media t-shirts. I wish I was more than a walking advertisement for things I find enjoyable but I'm too lazy to actually develop a decent personal style.

>>82803531
>tfw no furry bf
Going to kill myself asap

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>>82803574
you are not alone, anon. there are other gay furbots (who will also kill themselves cuz no furbf)

>>82803555
I will join in six months or so if it's still up because I will have moved to a new place by then

>>82803555
>North Korea
>Malaysia
>Argentina
it gets lonely huh...

>>82803617
North Korea anon is an unfunny faggot

>>82803605
that's a long time to wait. may as well shoot your shot now while the tagemape is fresh

>>82803531
The greatest injustice of this world is the disparity between male and female fashion
It's like men are prohibited from wearing 99% of clothes

What should I do for dinner? I don't really feel like doing anything but I guess I should. Choices are chicken, skillet dinner, hamburgers or leftover pizza (though I'm saving that for lunch tomorrow)

>>82803531
I guess? If you count wearing turtlenecks, having a red bob-esque haircut with a fringe, wearing either red or black boots at all times and owning skinny jeans fashion, like more than half my outfits are literally just variations of like 7 pairs of green hoodies I own

>>82803599
Every time I get a chance, I somehow fumble it hard. Found out a really cute guy had a crush on me but lived in a different continent and a few weeks later they were seeing someone locally.

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>>82803660
there was a time where men were high fashion but it's long gone

>>82803688
>Found out a really cute guy had a crush on me but lived in a different continent
You didn't fumble it, anon. You just looked at the wrong place...
However, if you look for a bf locally...

>>82803700
Imagine wearing all that and not being considered a huge faggot what a fucking privilege.

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>>82803531
>do any of you anons /fa/
nope, i'm at that point in life where no matter what i wear, i get "it"

They say the clothes make the man, but not me, i make the clothes work

>>82803723
I think thats the right approach, I live in a city with a decent amount of furries. But I'm too scared to meet them.
Honestly, I've told myself I'll start saying once I get a bimax, then I could be okay looking enough.

>>82803750
>But I'm too scared to meet them
Why reading this makes me seethe with incontrollable rage

>>82803750
>Waiting for surgery until you do the things that make you happy
no nony don't do that, surgery can change your jawline, not your brain. You will be the same person on the inside, making excuses

>>82803555
I joined with an 850km location restriction... hopefully someone will be (kind of) near my shithole

>>82803775
Why would that make you angry?

>>82803793
I already hate the person that I am. At least with surgery I can pretend to be someone else. (Also I really want to be able to breath through my nose properly)

>>82803798
850 km is a lot

>>82803825
I don't know, anon, I guess your weakness and your cowardice makes me angry. I wish I could just be there and shake you by the shoulders like in the movies, and slap you across the face repeatedly over and over, until you snap out from it. Just to provoke a reaction. Just to see you get angry and fight back for once.
Your inaction makes my blood boil

>>82803835
No it's not 850km is a tiny amount and if you say otherwise you only wanna date people living in your apartment

>>82803825
>already hate the person that I am
oh my dear boy why do you hate yourself? Because of your looks?
Sometimes it takes someone else to show you how to love yourself

>>82803871
That's like a 10 hour car drive (and a lot of gas), or 2 hours by plane (and hundreds of dollars in tickets).
I'm sorry anon, it's just too far away
>In my apartment
No, that's an absurd stretch, but I do like to date people who live in my city or a nearby city at most

>>82803668
I would make the hamburgers because I've had chicken for the last three days in some form. Pizza if you're less than 100% sure you'll have it for lunch.

>>82803861
One of my good online friends is like that to me, he's so frustrated at my patheticness and I feel so bad to put such a burden on him.

>>82803879
Thanks for not saying the ol' "love yourself before you love someone else" adage. I hate myself because I keep getting negative feedback for my existence and it rots me inside

>>82803750
maybe it's because you don't have direction? have you looked at local furry telegram groups? local meetups for furries are a good place as they'll also be filled with nerdy younger dudea who will understand not everyone is particularly extroverted

>>82803935
>I keep getting negative feedback for my existence
Have you thought about how maybe you keep searching for these negative experiences (r9k in a nutshell), while you run away from any would-be positive experiences (like dating local boys)?

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Hey faggots, I had a fallen angel of God tell me how you all become fags. Is it accurate? I am not schizo.

I had a fallen arch angel (I'm not schizo, I was dying on crystal meth in my room) take mercy on me and become best friends with me. They did a good deed to save me when I was dying of meth.

They told me even if they're not supposed to give this information, they're a sinning arch angel....


How fags become faggots.

They endure some kind of trauma or develop wrong as kids due to some insecurity or fear (whether theyre aware of it or not) and fear women and end up wanting men out of ruining their personality them selves. It can also happen due to severe trauma or bullying from others. Or they turn them selves gay to hurt women or a woman by doing drugs and "getting a taste for it" "it" refering to 2 or more male sexual experiences even if women are involved.

They said most bi men are men trying to fuck a guys girlfriend or wife with the guy because the girl is a bitch asking for a MMF experience.

They said all men are born straight, and all women are naturally bi. Anything else is corruption because of trauma or self inflicted personality wounds that some people arent even aware they do to them selves.

The kind of fallen angel is pic realted. Like a 10000000 year old winged creature.

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>>82803700
For some reason male fashion got progressively more bland and tasteless as the centuries went by, reaching the peak of boringness in the last century. The male gender is yet to recover

>>82803871
>you only wanna date people living in your apartment
what's wrong with that i see a lot of cute guys in mine

the lengths people will go instead of just admitting some people are born gay

>>82803531
>do any of you anons /fa/?
I try but I genuinely think I'm autistic or some shit because nothing I wear clicks

>>82803531
Im buying some AN fertilizer for my garden im growing tomatoes next year

>>82803744
>Yin yang necklace
I'm not sure if this fits or desu, what your personality like? Since that'll be the deciding factor on if this is shite or not.

>>82804011
Weirdly enough I get decent positive experiences on r9k, anons are distinctly l surprisingly nice to me even when I vent. It's the outside world that's scary.

>>82804103
I'll throw my two tiny tomatoes in your soil and fertilize it

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>have to wake up early to goto a union meeting
urgghhhh

>>82804181
That's just filthy

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Imagine coming home and your bf is like this...

>>82804324
omg my autistic bf is having a stimming fit again (i will need to get the weighted blanket or he'll give himself a concussion)

>>82803531
>Be in creative writing class
>Mostly far left foids
>Conversation about male privilege
>Girl: "what about gay men?"
>They unanimously agree white gay men are the most privileged class in the world.
So I guess the left is getting ready to throw gay men under the bus. Great. Thanks for nothing assholes.

>>82804367
Those type of liberals have never been on anyone sides but their own, genuinely it's people like that which will cause the world to go into another 1930s - 1940s period again

>>82804367
>>82804387
yup, and these are the same people who say trannies are on your side and were always right there next to you fighting for your rights, I hate leftoids so much.

>>82804367
>taking a creative writing class
hello young man you shouldn't be in a place like this

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>>82804367
I'm considering voting republican in 2028 just because of how obnoxious leftists and socialists have become and also I want illegals deported
>>82804487
He might be in college or something

>>82804505
>creative writing in college
he better be european where you can take bs classes for free. i don't think you're getting credits for that shit

>>82804505
cute white wolf with gaudy golden adornments

>>82804324
ICE is wrapping people in full body restraints like this

>>82804529
wtf i love ICE now???

>>82804510
Might be an english major??
>>82804524
UwU

who is ICE? grah thought I was feeling you that's niggs a munch bitch ima baddie i get what i want like grah

>>82804324
I'm having a panic attack just by seeing this and I'm not even claustrophobic but that just looks like suffocating till death

>>82804592
That's ice spice lmao. I'm a baddie I get what I want. Icon.

>>82804367
>>Mostly far left foids
Nice. These girls have tons of gay friends. They could set you up real good. All it takes is not being a chud

>>82804367
>left is getting ready to throw gay men under the bus
>Better side with the party that already threw us under the bus decades ago and are still doing it
right wing chuds are bad, but right wing gay chuds are just suicidal levels of self preservation bad.

>>82804754
>>82804810

How about i side with people i like and not obnoxious woke foids or conservatives

>>82804505
>Just because
Oh please be honest with yourself, xenophobe. If all it takes to make you bend for conservatism is people being "obnoxious" you were on the edge of a knife leaning right already.
You are just sensitive to leftists calling out men, but you are completely immune to conservatives calling out gays. I aspire to your levels of bias.

>>82804843
The people you like, meaning conservatives, don't like you being a fag. But you don't like it either, lmao. Maybe that's why you feel at home in their arms. Homophobia... That's a game you know how to play.

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>>82804440
>these are the same people who say [true facts]
Uhm, based?

>>82804754
I cannot make friends with a single foid. They can probably smell the prisongay on me.

>>82804387
>It's the minorities fault that fascists rose to power
No, anon, it's the fault of people who side with fascists. You blaming minorities is very on brand for their modus operandi

>>82804440
>I hate leftoids like right wingers hate me
Weak self preservation game

>>82804891
It's because you are a chud maybe, not necessarily the prison gay thing. You probably irradiate that typical incel energy.
>Prisongay
What makes you think you're welcome here?

weak bait, this is why you're used as a tool.

>>82804900
I said liberals, not minorities, they act like they're against fascism, racism and whatever but it's all for show, most people are for fascism if it's frames correctly which for as nihilistic as it sounds, is the truth, like I can really only say that this isn't a right vs left issue but a authoritarian vs libertarian issue, I'm not blaming minorities but I am blaming both side and everyone else who is apathetic and actively advocate for more control, it's all a joke at this point considering how extreme both side is

would u rather date someone from a foreign country or someone thats from the same place u are?

>>82805051
Liberals and minorities hold hands while conservatives want to implement authoritarianism and when they succeeded in history, you blame the victims. Which is again very much on brand with the whole fascist and right wing ethos.

>>82804853
>xenophobe
Im very xenophobic yeah. I dislike criminals who don't want to integrate and abuse our generosity
>bend for conservatism
I'm not even conservative i just don't want to support the party who wants millions of illegal immigrant slave laborers to lower wages and artificially change the culture of my country
>completely immune to conservatives calling out gays
Not all conservatives hate gays. Extreme homophobia is a fringe position in the republican party. Hell, one of the biggest Republican donors, Peter Thiel has a husband.

>>82805051
>it's all for show
>So I'll side with the people who hate me honestly and openly
Negative self preservation, bordering suicidal

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I can't do nursing/medicine or STEM. What's left for me at university? Are those the only degrees worth pursuing any more?

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It's getting worse. My sanity is dropping yet again. So many things are starting to upset me a lot. The meds aren't enough. This needs to stop fast. Finding a bf isn't possible like this. Fuck my life.

>>82805109
what's getting you down, anon?

>>82805094
Why can't you do medicine? Anything else is not worth the money. I mean if you had free public universities I could tell you to just study art and live the college adventure. But if you have to actually pay hundreds of thousands for that and get a debt, not worth it.

>>82805109
Delete your suicide inspo folder

>>82805083
>Every immigrant is a criminal
Yikes, bigot.
>Not even a conservative
>Just share their every opinion
First time I meet a closeted conservative.
>Not all conservative hates gays
>Just most of them
And it doesn't bother you at all. But college girls badmouthing men? That's a rage bait you can get behind.
>Look at this right wing faggot
Probably self hating just like you.

>>82805055
I have a fetish for chubby Asain men, but I wouldn't want a long distance relationship.

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>>82805083
>Extreme homophobia is a fringe position in the republican party
Lmao I wish. By "extreme" you mean wanting gays dead? Not even that hard to find conservatives publicly asking for it.
You turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to all the hate we get from conservatives
But your eyes and years are fine tuned to all the "hate" men get from lefty college girls? Twisted priorities my dude.
A chud through and through. I won't bother responding you any further.

>>82805075
Your view on this is very American, it doesn't matter if one side is left or right if they're both authoritarian, to discredit every single conservative as extreme without considering why they think the way they do is exactly what these fascist bastards want, there was a balance there that went to hell over the past decade
>>82805093
Yeah, it is all for show, when you have these people protesting for "change" while simultaneously hating a whole race of people but doesn't at like it's a bad thing cause it's more acceptable to? Then yes, I do think it's all to make you look good, I'm siding with anyone who's for freedom and not authority since that's more important than the left vs right mindset that been so prevalent in our media

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>>82804866
>All conservatives hate gay men.
You do realize there are at least 10 openly gay conservative influencers with large audiences, right?
You do realize it's no longer the 2000s neo-con era right?
My guess is you're in a liberal bubble and your only contact with conservatives is boomer relatives and clips from Fox News on reddit.

>>82805187
>it doesn't matter if one side is left or right
It really does. They are not the same. You are spousing a centrist fallacy. Democrats aren't authoritarian. 16 years of democrat rule had less authoritarianism than 6 months of republican rule.

>>82805055
I wouldn't mind either way, it's really depends on the person even if I do have a preference for latinos

>>82805118
Mostly being in a stressfull environment and not being able to move till I have own income.
>>82805142
No.

>>82805187
>why they think the way they do
Religion, that's why. The same religion that asks for your head on a plate, and you cheer for it. You are probably religious too, it's where your own internalized homophobia comes from.
Of course you're going to deny it, right wingers are known for being disingenuous and arguing with lies and fake news, words lose all meaning to you, like you just calling both parties the same

>>82805218
You do realize Kanye west is literally a nigger nazi, right?
Never underestimate what self hatred does to people. As an incel you should know this better than anyone.

>>82805129
What if I was able to get grants & scholarships & work while in school so that the investment was mostly time and effort? Like I'm working and paying bills regardless, but I'd also start taking classes as well. Do you still think it would be worth it to study art at university (for example) on top of working a regular job, assuming that I wasn't paying thousands of dollars for it?

>>82805253
>grants & scholarships
Is it really free or you have to pay it back later? If you could study for free I'd tell you to do anything you want/enjoy without caring, just to live the college experience, but you're talking to someone who studied in university for free for years, all paid by the government.
If It's coming out of your pocket, you gotta be smart about it. It's not worth getting into debt just to experience college life.

>>82805094
Business and finance. As an engineer I think a /biz/ bf would be nice because then we could have less career related conversations at home. I'd hate to be eating dinner and it's just us talking about the things I already have to pretend to care about with my coworkers everyday.

>>82805219
Maybe in the US it's like that but in the UK rn, all sides are like that, that's the viewpoint I'm coming from so it probably won't completely align with the everything in America politics, what I do know is I'm against all forms of authoritarianism that's been on the rise here on all side of the political spectrum
>>82805240
Religion isn't too big in the UK desu, like I would consider myself more of a devil worshipper than anything holy lol, I honestly think I came into this discussion thinking of British politics more than American ones

>>82805176
>I have a fetish for chubby Asain men
where does this come from?
>>82805224
>a preference for latinos
by latinos u mean brown guys? :p

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>>82805165
>Yikes, bigot.
Every illegal immigrant is a criminal by definition
>>Just most of them
Most of them is a huge misnomer. They really only hate trannies (rightfully). 99% of the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in 2025 is against trannies and pronouns. I'm not in that bracket of people whatsoever and I also dislike them massively as well.
>But college girls badmouthing men?
Homophobia does bother me to a degree but its obvious they're never going to try to make homosexuality or gay marriage illegal again. Its just impossible and its obviously a tool to win uneducated rednecks' votes. Again like I said i dislike leftists because they turn a blind eye to blatant criminality and illegal immigration which are the biggest problems in our country right now
>Probably self hating just like you.
Yeah so self hating he is openly gay, doesn't hide it at all, parades his husband everywhere, SOOOOO internally homophobic.

I don't hate myself whatsoever. On the contrary I like myself and I don't think there's anything wrong with homosexuality. I just want illegals out of my country, that's all, and I don't believe in promoting islamic terrorism, criminality, and political extremism like many people on the left tend to do today.
>>82805181
>This one Christian preacher with no power that literally nobody cares about means every republican wants us genocided!
Kek.
>You turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to all the hate we get from conservatives
I don't lol. You really think every conservative is a frothing nazi that wants to kill gay people. Reminder that fifty percent of this country's electorate voted donald trump last year.
>from lefty college girls? Twisted priorities my dude.
Lefties tell me i'm evil for not wanting 10 million illegal mexicans roaming around, when NO other country would find this level of illegal immigration acceptable. Yet i'm forced to accept it because i'm le heckin evil nazi or something according to them. Hell no.

>>82805253
>Do you still think it would be worth it to study art at university (for example) on top of working a regular job, assuming that I wasn't paying thousands of dollars for it?
If it's for free like actual public education, it's worth for the experience. You will meet a lot of people, good people, open minded individuals, modern, leftists, everything one could wish for in a friend. And gays, lots and lots of gays. You could make friends and everything else, every milestone of college life imaginable.
If you have to pay for it, in my opinion it isn't worth it and you must be pragmatic

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>r9gay
Do no fap and the fag feelings will go away! It works! I promise!

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>>82805181
Why are you so desperate to drum up fear? You know, I can easily find shit leftists say about killing all white men. See both sides have terrible people, but your mistakes is:
1)assuming all conservatives are bad
2)assuming all liberals are good
This is such black and white thinking it borders on dogmatic belief.

>>82805291
>>This one Christian preacher
>Who represents what millions of conservatives and religious bigots are thinking
Keep siding with people who hate you, as an incel without friends or a bf, whatever could go wrong in your life has already happened, it has already been turned to shit,so you really have nothing else to lose at this point. There's not even any dignity left for you to lose

>>82805288
Eh, I mean culturally, I was raised Catholic so I prefer to have someone else who was in that sorta environment, that whole getting drunk and partying bit is the kind of place I tend to thrive in, the more protestant countries tend to be kinda stuck upish about that stuff, it's why I prefer Ireland over England by a mile

>>82805316
Why are so bothered by college girls saying bad things about men in a creative writing class,
But you are completely immune to homophobic conservatives saying bad things about gay people?
Could it be internalized homophobia?
>Closeted, never had a bf
Yes it could be internalized homophobia, most likely.

>>82805309
>Do no fap
>Get hornier
>Gay thoughts intensify

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>go to college & everyone talks about politics
>Eat lunch and news is on talking about politics
>Come home people talk about politics
>Turn on my phone it suggest political news
>Go to r9gay to escape this crap...
>Everyone is discussing politics.
Fuck this I'm leaving.

>>82805345
either a lie or you did it for like 3 days then gave up

>>82805353
I also dont like it non

>>82805353
Can't blame ya desu, usually when I get annoyed at this stuff I'll just play some old emulated games on a steam deck hooked up to my tv

>>82805332
>You'd better believe what I believe or you're internalizing oppression
Ok bud got any other leftist talking points to go through or have you run out yet?

>>82805357
retard not him but that's how it goes i just ger gayer for dudes get this retarded nofap shit out of my faggot thread

>>82805383
>Cares so much about college girls badmouthing men he decided to switch sides
>Feels nothing about thousands of conservatives preaching his eternal damnation
No self preservation, no dignity and most importantly, no bf.

engaging with gay thoughts -> more gay thoughts
not engaging with gay thoughts -> less gay thoughts
fapping to gay porn or fantasies about men is a form of intense gay conditioning
if you stop you will become less gay
it's pretty obvious when you think about it

many men
wish death upon me

>>82805238
how's the income situation going then?

>>82805353
It all depends on what politics you side with and as a gay person, your set of options is limited to siding with the people who hate you or siding with the other queers.

>>82805408
>not engaging with gay thoughts -> less gay thoughts
Turns out it doesn't work like that

>>82805316
>can easily find shit leftists say
>Deaf ear to all the shit conservatives say about him
This is your bias at play. You call it dogmatic, but you have already chosen a dogma to follow, and it ain't a queer lovin' one.

>>82805291
>I don't lol
You're doing it right now. Leftist college girls get to you like no conservative preacher ever did. Your whole political narrative is based on ignoring everything bad conservatives continually preach about you. You wouldn't be welcome in their circles while holding your bf's hand.
Turns out being a celibate really helps cement conservative gays' opinions.

>>82805291
>Lefties tell me i'm evil for being xenophobic
>Conservatives tell me I'm a sinner going to hell forever unless I'm a celibate
No wonder how and why you picked a side

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>>82805438
>>82805418
>"I'm 100% good and other side is %100 evil".

Would you date a man who still uses Win10 past its end of life?

>>82805291
>They really only hate trannies
They don't, they hate you too and specially your right to marry and raise a family, but they do hate trannies more. , when you add transphobia to your loving personality, it gives us a wider perspective on why and how you sided with conservatives.
It's in moments like this that I remind myself that you're lonely and have no friends or boyfriend, and by the gods it sounds like karmic justice is being served to you on a golden platter
You deserve it, anon. You really do deserve to be alone. It's what gay chuds get. I'm sorry about it, I don't make the rules. It's just what it is. The gay guy who hates immigrants and trannies spend his days crying about loneliness, as he should.

>>82803599
is that a jackal? theyre all women though

>>82805485
One side is 100% anti gays and being a self hating homosexual, that's where you gravitated towards

>>82805426
but have you tried it (i suspect not) ?

>>82805353
Making normies hyper-aware of "politics" (they don't actually care about politics they just use it to signal what makes them better than others e.g.. leftie: "I'm tolerant so I'm more amazing than other people". rightie: "I'm white so I'm more amazing than other people") was the worst thing to ever happen to modern society

>>82805486
sure, but i would strongly encourage him to upgrade to windows 11 to receive the latest features and security updates from microsoft

>>82805291
>so self hating he is openly gay
>None of his church friends accepted invitations to his marriage so they had a private ceremony
A low self esteem homosexual like you could relate

>>82805519
>I'm tolerant so I'm more amazing than other people". rightie: "I'm white so I'm more amazing than other people"
One of those is indicative of a better, less rotted personality than the other. I'll let you figure out who on your own.

who wants to be my retarded diaper puppy bf

>>82805506
Yes, when I was a little kid and then a teenager fighting against my homosexuality. It didn't work back then, it won't work now.
Like it hasn't worked for you too, but maybe you're still trying to fix it. Only time can teach you this lesson.
I'll be honest, you are in the perfect place of all the internet to be a self hating homosexual in denial. You're home.

>>82805325
>>82805457
>>82805466
>Commies seething and calling me an incel
Classic
>>82805495
>Ah yes 50% of the country are le heckin nazi chuds who want to kill all homos so you HAVE to support illegal immigration, or else you'll die alone incel
>Im totally sane
>>82805527
>>None of his church friends accepted invitations to his marriage so they had a private ceremony
Source?

And people wonder why so many hate both sides.

>>82805291
>its obviously a tool to win uneducated rednecks' votes.
Imagine consciously siding with the party who capitalizes hatred against you to win an election.
I know you hate immigrants more than you love being a free homosexual, because you are not really free, you are still shackled by internalized homophobia.
To you, the right wing ideology regarding gay people is merely an extension of your self hatred and therefore extremely relatable
>I don't believe in promoting islamic terrorism, criminality, and political extremism like many people on the left
>Believes in promoting LGBT phobia for political gain
Stray dog syndrome.

>>82805566
But you are an incel. Calling you that is a perfect observation of reality.
It's not a coincidence that the gay incel is extremely bothered by leftist antics, but immune to homophobia coming from his own party. You have a bias, an anti immigration and self hating bias.

>>82805577
But the time will come for you to choose a side, always. Abstaining from choosing just means siding with the winner

>>82805550
>when I was a little kid [...] fighting against my homosexuality
I'm sorry that you got molested and thought you were gay before even hitting puberty. That has to be rough.

>>82805566
>yes 50% of the country are le heckin nazi chuds
No that's just you. 50% of the country sided with the gay hating party, and you sure didn't join them, you were already in that party long ago. All they had to do was blow the whistle "immigrants and trannies bad" and you came wiggling your tail like the dog you are.

>>82805602
I was never molested and lived a pretty ordinary childhood devoid of any sexual experiences. I still realized I was gay by 8 years old, and I reacted just like you for the next 9 years, trying my hardest to repress until 17. I eventually got tired of repression.
You must be exhausted from it

>>82805566
>you HAVE to support illegal immigration
Better than supporting a party that uses your very existence as hate fuel to gain votes.
Conservatives feel about you just like you feel about immigrants who voted for trump. An useful, self destructing tool. Nothing else

>>82805083
>Peter Thiel
>Literally a billionaire
Lol mate that guy is actually voting for his own interests as a billionaire. Unlike you who vote against your own interests as a working class homosexual.
Getting you to vote against your own interests and siding with billionaires is the entire right wing conservative ideology in a nutshell. It's why millions of immigrants voted for trump. You are being used. A means to an end

>>82805291
>they're never going to try to make homosexuality or gay marriage illegal again
Lol delusional. That's already in motion right now.
You know what's really sad? It's not that gay marriage will fall. It's when republicans do take gay marriage down, you won't back down, apologize or change any of your bigoted opinions, quite the contrary.
You will have a narrative ready, an excuse at the go, and you will defend the chopping of your own rights as a fair price to pay for your bigotry.
That's what's sad.

>>82805502
a boy can dream (though sangheili are also cute and seem all male and buff and towering in stature and probably smell in agood way a

>>82805593
I just think leftism is evil, thats all. From my observations of their policies, their support for illegal immigration and terrorist groups like Hamas. Its a cult centered around identity politics and oppression olympics that really wont benefit the average person. They are violent and demented as we can see with people like Tyler Robinson and everyday I see them online calling for some sort of violent revolution because democracy didn't work in their favor.
>>82805616
>50% of the country sided with the gay hating party,
Again you really dont understand why people voted Trump. It's not because they hate gays. Its abortion + immigration. Thats it. Reminder that Republicans were already starting to accept gay people (and to a degree they accept gays way more than they did before) until trannies started forcing their politics into everything. You dont get it. They ruined it for us.
>low the whistle "immigrants and trannies bad"
Yeah i should vote for the party because theyre gay not even though they are against 99% of the stuff i believe in because palestine or something
>>82805649
Legal Immigrants voted trump because they saw that illegal immigrants were destroying their country and tarnishing their name. Thats all.

Again i'm just gonna peace out because its pointless arguing with you lunatics

>>82805756
You got it twisted. Conservatism is evil. Notice how your entire political ideology is based around the idea of making life harder for a group (trannies or immigrants).
Notice how you inadvertently admit that you are on the same party as "uneducated rednecks" who hate you.
Notice how you blame minorities (immigrants) as being the biggest problem in your country, when that's far from the truth: the biggest problem are the billionaires you are dying to defend.
Notice how your best example of a right homosexual is literally a billionaire.
Use your patter recognition brain to realize this: you are siding against your own personal interests, and you wear your bigot badge with so much pride, a level of pride you never had for your sexuality.
You may not being inherently evil, but you are being used by the evil to fulfill their own goals against your own interests.

>>82805756
>Legal Immigrants voted trump because
Because they were lied to, that trump and republicans would only target "criminals". Now their families are being torn apart by ICE as even legal immigrants are facing backlash and deportation.
It was a gay legal immigrant, a hairdresser , who was the first one sent to a concentration camp in el Salvador and he is still there to this day without means of communication despite being innocent.
Immigrants were played just like you. They already regretted it. Your time of regret will come too.

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the masculine urge to buy weapons and armor i'll never use and then eventually have sit in the closet with the rest of the Forgotten Weapons(with Ian McCollins)((tm))

>>82805756
Leftists support the innocent Palestinian children who are not to blame for terrorism, while you support giving 20 billions to Israel so they could carry a proto genocide in the open. 20 thousand children died, and that's still not enough for your kind. It should have been all of them according to you.
You are being played by the evil side into being okay with evil.

>>82805756
>everyday I see them online calling for some sort of violent revolution because democracy didn't work in their favor.
Who stormed the capitol after losing an election?

My special talents are being a creep and giving guys the ick!

>>82805756
>Blaming trannies for anti gay sentiment in the republican party
>Blaming immigrants for his country troubles and the rise of conservatism
>Blaming palestinians for hamas
>Blaming leftists for violence when most political violence has been done by the right wing
So, on top of lies, your ideology is reliant on blaming minorities. Lies and scapegoating.
Very on brand for fascists.

>>82805756
>against 99% of the stuff i believe
It doesn't help that you are a bigot who shares your beliefs with people who wouldn't want you anywhere near their families. Your hateful opinions are the problem.

>>82805521
>>82805486
but my PC doesn't meet the system requirements for win 11! I'm locked out of all the new features and upgrades!

>>82805856
how old is your pc nonny

>>82805891
just five years, I built it with my stimulus check for under $1,000

>>82805896
last time i checked you can bypass the bullshit system requirements if you use rufus

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I'm not a pedophile. I'm not a pedophile.

>>82805778
>>82805756
Let's be real, transgender ideology is innately homophobic. It's activists say that a Lesbian is an evil person if they don't want to date or have sex with someone with a penis. That feminine boys are actually girls. It is also anti-woman.

>>82805818
Many leftists support the genocide of Israelis or the forced deportation of all Israelis in the name of blood and soil ethnic nationalism for a people who largely immigrated from Arabia, by the threat of terrorism and rape against Israeli children who have nothing to do with Zionism. Hasan calls the children "colonists".

>>82805778
>your entire political ideology is based around the idea of making life harder for a group
he thinks there will never come a moment when republicans decide it's time to make his life harder. The leopards would never eat his face

>>82805953
>Let's be real, I'm transphobic
It's funny how, when you wanted to oppose these minorities (trannies and immigrants) you went straight to the republican's arms.
It never occurred to you that the "anti minority" party could ever turn against you, a member of a minority.
Played like a fiddle

My PC is 9 years old. I know nobody asked. I upgraded the RAM to 16GB a few years ago and just got a 2TB SSD.

Unfortunately ever since upgrading to windows 11, the CPU (Intel i5) has been sluggish and overburdened by slop. I should probably get a new MOBO if I upgrade the CPU though. I need a new GPU too (Radeon RX 580) haha.

>>82805953
>Many leftists support the genocide of Israelis
No they don't.
But there's a right winger talking to me right now that supports the genocide of palestinians. You are the example I talk about, but you only have anecdotes and fallacies about leftists.
The right wing is the party of lies and fake news for a reason. Most political violence is done by them. It was right wingers who attempted an insurrection after losing a democratic election, not leftists.

>>82805963
If only we didn't have to pay the price for his stupidity and lack of self preservation

>>82805996
I cannot imagine a life without 32 GB of ram, how do you open a web browser?

>>82806014
the real tragedy is that he will only learn by suffering from the consequences of his vote. He will keep being a bigot until right wing bigotry comes knocking at his door.

>>82805532
Why do you always have to be so condescending about this. This is why people don't like lefties and wokes, because you always have this "I know better than thou and thou must learn and become wise as I am" attitude

Neither the political left nor the political right are your allies.
Democracy is sham theater designed to pacify the helots.

You must be "educated" and thus ascend, as we have, to the higher plane. This is why we always talk about drugs and tarot and shit because we have higher thought as leftist wokes that your peon brain has yet to achieve.

>>82805996

at this point just build a new system, my old computer was about the same age (a little younger but not much) when my GPU failed last year. I just built a new system rather than try and upgrade one that old.

wow anon your feet sure are soft...

>>82806039
He's an incel. The only place where he is openly gay is inside his head. He will never face these consequences because he will never have a gay relationship to test the waters of conservative reception.
He will probably live and die believing in bigotry

i could use a foot massage rn

>>82806077
Everything you think about leftists come from right wing memes and other derogatory insults that aren't accurate to reality.
However, the leftist assertion that you are in fact lonely and devoid of any romance in your life is extremely accurate.
One of us belongs to the party of lies and misinformation

>>82806071
>Fell for the political right
The political left is more on your side than the right wing. Conservatism was designed to keep the masses in check, all the way back to ancient abrahamic religions, and you fell for it.

>>82806063
>I dislike leftists because they were mean to me online
>Doesn't care about conservatives and right wingers preaching his moral condemnation in every church
Your ears are very selective to what is allowed to bother your sensibilities.

Conservatives lick the billionaire's boot so much they are retvrning to being serfs instead of the 1950s like they wanted but hey anything to own the libs, right?

>threads since right wingers defended Israel: 0
They can't help it

>>82806124
No, anon I have faced very real discrimination from "the political left" that destroyed my life.

>>82806151
unironically how. did you shout the n word in a library?

>>82806151
What, you acted liked a racist moron and no one wanted to be your friend, or did you get kicked out of college or whatever for it?

I have faced very real discrimination from "the political left" that destroyed my life.

>>82806165
>>82806168
I came from a very conservative christian family and conservative community. Arguably a cult to be honest.
Went to a university and was in the habit of holding open doors for people and carrying things, as I had been taught was polite to do.
Was in a degree program with a bunch of jewish girls and they complained to the faculty that I gave them the ick or was oppressing them by being the patriarchy or something.
That's literally it.

>>82806198
I don't believe this, you had to have done something else. Were you formally expelled or just so embarrassed you left on your own?

>>82806151
>anon I have faced very real discrimination from "the political left"
On 4chan, lmao.
Meanwhile the real discrimination happened in church, family and other conservative environments where you learned to hate being gay.
A lesson you are yet to unlearn.

>>82805982
There is no real universal coalition of minorities. That is just the leftist mythology and to get you to follow their religious commands. Also for the sake of clarity I myself have never voted and hate both parties. I am of the enlightened centrist persuasion, if you will.

But anyway there is no such possibility of a coalition of minorities against majority groups. Actually I *AM* a majority group. I am a white man so the left sees me as one of the most evil vile creatures to ever exist. Plus, they consider the minority group of cis male gay to be utterly inferior to the master race that is transgenders. They will advocate for trans people to be prioritized above me every single time, as well as all races to be superior to mine.

I'd like to remind that there was a time when even the Democrats were homophobic. Obama and Hillary opposed gay marriage in their earlier careers. The Republicans actually were become less homophobic pretty quick. Now we're headed for Hitler vs. Stalin 2.0.

Meanwhile I breathe a sigh of relief I was out of college before all the craziness started. I very well might have ended up in trouble in the current climate but I skated by. Help by the fact that I went to one of the most conservative schools outside of the religious ones.

>>82806198
>came from a very conservative christian family and conservative community
The one that taught you to hate being gay?
Like I said, you are extremely selective to what you allow to bother you. All the homophobia from these environments just ricocheted, you barely even acknowledge it. Even though that's what turned you into an incel

>>82806216
I also had an injury that ended up preventing me from doing school work.
And I wasn't formally expelled, but I was asked to leave.
There were like 3 female professors there at the meeting, and one male professor who liked me, and he started crying.

>>82806242
My point in this post >>82806071, which is the start of this thread of conversation, is that neither political "right" "conservatives" nor political "left" "liberals" actually care about (You).
The two party system isn't set up for your benefit.
If you fall for either side, you're being used.

>>82806295
>>82806242
That's a lot of fucking projection there, faggots

>>82806004
When did I say I supported Israel's actions? Both sides have done atrocious things, and plan on more.
>You are the example I talk about, but you only have anecdotes and fallacies about leftists.
I could say the same of you. Also the data on that violence is completely cooked, often leaves out 9/11, BLM and Antifa, counts meth biker gang deals gone wrong as political violence, doesn't include Weather Underground, etc. The data used by the Economist is literally made by a guy that calls himself "militant Antifa". Btw, I can't already tell your next argument is to deny that Antifascist-Action exists.

>>82806280
When you wanted to oppose minorities, you ran into the republican's arms. And that's what that party is for.
Whatever you say about the left wing, it is the right wing that has a tremendous track record of persecuting minorities, specially the queers.

>>82806306
What exactly did they accuse you of? Chauvinism? I find it very hard to believe that simply holding the door open for someone, raging feminist or not led to you being asked to leave.

>>82806312
Do you think it's a coincidence that you were brought up in a conservative environment, only to become a conservative homosexual who happens to be a celibate?
It ain't.

>>82806315
>Talks shit about people defending victims of genocide
>Backtracks when called out
Right, you didn't defend Israel, you're only supporting the Zionist party financing Israel, totally different things
Disingenuous chud

>>82806216
You don't believe our lived experiences?

This is always how these conversations go. The left will just refuse to believe anything at all that we tell them about our own lives. It's always something the far-left did that is so clownish and extreme and they just deny it or downplay. If a MAGA guy told you about the existence of the Soviet Union you wouldn't believe it. The center-left simply does not believe that the far-left exists.

>>82806306
>neither political "right" "conservatives" nor political "left" "liberals" actually care about (You).
One of those is worse for gays than the others.
Your centrism fallacy betray the reality we live in. The right wing party is against your freedom to be gay and raise a family at its core.
You don't care about that because what are the odds you will raise a family?
Well I care because I actually plan on it.

The most homophobic people I know are Black. That did stem from religion mainly but I can't believe they would willingly share a party with gay right activists unless they had other motives.

>>82806355
It would help if your example wasn't an absurd caricature.
>I'm MAGA because leftists in college were mean to mean
>Preachers telling queer children gays will go to hell? Never cared about it (was one of those kids, still believes in it)
Twisted priorities my man

>>82806371
>Fuck the queer black people caught in the crossfire between my racism and the homophobia in their communities
Low empathy

>>82806333
>When you wanted to oppose minorities, you ran into the republican's arms
I'm really even supporting the Republicans that much, just saying that the left is horrid as well. You are the one projecting onto me your very own extreme dichotomies. You're projecting onto me because you wanted to get revenge on straight people so you ran into the democrat's arms. You don't know anything about me. The only information your working with here is yourself. You don't understand me so all you can do is imagine that I am the diametric total inversion of you.

And any, I like that the Republicans want to defend me, as a white male, against insane lunatics who think that the solution to minority oppression is majority oppression in a Marxist victimhood state.

>>82806336
They didn't have to accuse me of anything real. My college campus was quickly becoming full on radical feminist. Plus it was a very competitive degree program where we were supposed to be grouped up into teams for projects, which was core to the way the whole program worked.
All they had to say was "we're not comfortable working with him"
On top of all of this, I was quite a twink (completely clueless as to the effect my being hot had on people), so here I am this qt guy behaving like a christian (just in terms of being polite to people how I was raised, even though I was at that point atheist and considered myself liberal) and I guess that was too much for these bitches to handle.

>>82806343
Why are you assuming I am conservative?

>>82806336
It's because it never happened as he wrote it.
What did happen is that he spent a lifetime hearing conservative ideology in church and at home, so much so he believed it firmly, to this day.
But he won't dare criticize the conservatism that turned him into an incel. That one mean leftie is a bigger issue in his mind.

>>82806394
You are not being genuine about lots of things, including your support for conservatives (enough to make you argue in their favor for hours).
The dichotomy exists, and you chose a side that is opposed to your own personal interests as a homosexual with intentions of not being alone forever, so maybe that's the point of divergence here.

>>82806375
The *least* that the left did was be mean to us. The literally funneled billions of dollars into insane Marxist attempts to create an authoritarian anti-majority group suicide-cult state, and enacted insane political repression on their enemies, all the while pretending they weren't doing it and jerking off their own moral righteousness. The left was utterly vicious, and still wield immeasurable power. Keir Starmer was literally a Troksyist in his youth. You have billionares, that you preformatively resent, wielding power to create open borders and international socialism.

>>82806400
Ah I bet you acted like a chud and faced the consequences of your actions. What did you try and have debates in class to own the libs?

>>82806394
>you wanted to get revenge on straight people so you ran into the party comprised of mostly straight people
Nigga straight people on the democrat side are chill as fuck, what's not to love about them? Full blown allies.
It's the straight people on your side of the spectrum that you should worry about, the type pf straight person who goes to church to mentally jerk off about the idea of you going to hell

>>82806358
Idk.
It's a complicated situation.
The "left" trends towards a totally unattractive aesthetic.
I'll agree that the "right" is openly against gays and that this is objectively worse ... but the "right" also tends to make people more attractive.

I hate both though.
Neither political party represents me.
They're two arms of the same oppressive political body.

>>82806413
>and you chose a side that is opposed to your own personal interests as a homosexual
Already addressed this utter nonsense point many times, my man.
You are telling me that instead of be with people who don't like that I'm gay I should be with people who hate me for being a white male, and that a Marxist anti-majority state should be formed to dissolve all of my homelands. Do you see how this isn't very persuasive?

>>82806419
>Said the guy who voted for a billionaire
You have billionaire's boots so far up your asshole, your mouth smells like feet.
No matter how much you think that "leftist billionaires" lobbied their way, the right wing billionaires did it a thousand times harder. You literally elected a billionaire pedophiles to represent their interests above your own.

I think if your networth is under $1 million you can still call yourself 18yo because your real life hasn't started yet.

>>82806423
No.
Wise up.

>>82806438
You addressed it but forgot to mention the part where being a lonely celibate heavily influences your right leaning beliefs.
It's easy being a gay conservative when you don't actually have a gay life outside of your head.
Your hatred for immigrants and trannies is much more important than your inexistent sexual life.

>>82806400
>just in terms of being polite to people how I was raised
You forgot to mention the part of being a closeted homosexual chud with bigoted beliefs

>>82806198
>Mean college girls made me a right wing chud
>Preachers saying I'll go to hell doesn't bother me at all, why do you ask?
Twisted priorities

>>82806438
>who hate me for being a white male
But leftists don't really hate you for that. I'm a white male and a leftist and I'm a hit in my leftist circles.
You are so bothered by the run of the mill extreme version of leftist in your feed who cheers on white hate.
Which would be fair if you didn't turn a complete blind eye to the homophobia in your side of the spectrum.
Clearly you are way more sensible about one issue (white pride) than the other (gay pride)
Now add to that your hatred for immigrants and trannies, and the picture is complete:
You are a chud through and through, who hates being gay almost as much as other right wingers hate gay people, so it doesn't bother you. You can relate to that.

>>82806438
>Marxist anti-majority state
This is the part you completely forget you are a minority for being queer.
It's so easy to ignore that part of your life when you have zero gay experiences in real life

Was I wrong for this? In one of my German classes at college the professor was telling everyone to use schwul instead of homosexuell because that's the normal everyday word in German, no disrespect just like how we would use gay vs homosexual, one is more casual while the other is formal. Well my 'tism kicked in and I went 'oh I thought it meant something like faggot.' and I said the f-word. Should I have been punished for that? Does that make me a chud?

>>82806466
Nope.
I was neither in the closet nor a bigot. Not at *that* point anyway.
>inb4 "you acted like a christian you totally *were* in the closet"
I see your game, kike.
If I'm not acting like a flamer and openly advertising how gay I am then I'm closeted, yes? Even if I'm openly gay to my friends and family, but just act like a normal person in public?
Ah I see, yes that's being "closeted" - acting like a shameful fool is being "closeted". I totally get your reasoning.
And noticing the women in my class struggling to carry heavy equipment and holding the door open for them, that was being a "chud" wasn't it.

Isn't it funny how, when debating with these kikes, it's always either "chuds" or "tranny's"

There's no room for an Aryan man.

>>82806438
You're fine ignoring the hate you got at church and other conservative environments, though.
Clearly ignoring hatred is part of your personality, it's just about the type of hate you're willing to ignore.

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>>82806454
I don't think you're actually arguing with any conservatives. Like I said I myself am a centrist and this anon >>82806400 literally said he was an atheist liberal, as was I in my youth. I went back up in the thread and I didn't see anyone calling themselves a "gay conservative". I'm pretty sure you are just doing the meme, which is very typical in these conversations.
>>82806441
Also I said I have never voted. I don't think you're actually reading these posts but just want to throw insults around.
>the right wing billionaires did it a thousand times harder
In this last election that is quite literally untrue. The Democrats had much more billionaire funding and Kamala spent much more money than Trump did.
>>82806507
Yes, and you keep ignoring my entire refutation of this. The people who would "fight for my gay rights" want to take away my rights as a white male.

>>82806477
Those mean college girls got me kicked out of my degree program, which sent me back to being dependent on my bigoted family.
So yes, I now hate women.

>>82806430
I love when you fags talk about aesthetics completely ignorant and unaware about the fascist movement and its obsession with "aesthetics" and their own definition of "beauty" which defied freedom.
It's so very much on brand.
Quit your centrist fallacy and pick a side already.

>>82806508
Semi-related, I like to use word homosexual instead of gay in my writing because it sounds like a fancy rich man's word.

>>82806400
>Why are you assuming I am conservative?
Because despite all the homophobia you absorbed during your conservative upbringing, all it took for you to lean right was a mean girl at college. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Not the years you spent in church learning to reject your sexuality, something you're still doing it.
If you're not a conservative stop acting the part

>>82806501
>I'm a white male and a leftist and I'm a hit in my leftist circles.
That's just because you let them walk all over you and you don't stand up for yourself. My own mother, literally while we were having a nice conversation in a restaurant at my last birthday, literally blurted out that she "hates white men", verbatim. You're just ignoring the anti-white racism and anti-male sexism in your own party because you're not bothered much by it.

Also I don't hate immigrants, it's just that you can't have a function society that is safe for women and children if you don't enforce some level of standards and boundaries. And I don't hate trans people, I just don't agree that self-identification is a coherent concept that can be forced on society.

>>82806394
>I like that the Republicans want to defend me
They don't, you're a fag. They're using you for their own billionaire agenda.
But you don't see yourself as a fag. You see yourself as a white man, you see yourself as an American republican male, but not as a gay man.
Being a celibate is a crucial part of this charade. You care about "anti white sentiment" but you don't give a fuck about anti gay sentiment.
>Victim mentality
>Says the man who feels sorry for himself for being a white male

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>>82806533
Yes, fascist aesthetics are quite attractive.
Veneration of male beauty is attractive.
Understanding the glory of the male body...
These are things neither political party really does anymore, but the modern left ESPECIALLY doesn't do this. They actively hate male beauty.
The right doesn't particularly love it either, because they're all fucking prudes.

But this is a major issue on which the "left" arm of jewish totalitarianism loses gay men.

>>82806508
Voting republican makes you a chud. Learn your lesson and vote accordingly

I've said this before, lefties generally don't like me for personal reasons, the right hates me because I'm gay and at best wants to marginalize me and and force me back into the shadows. At worst outright kill me. While I don't mesh with a ton of lefties particularly the more activist type, I can't be republican either.

>>82806565
>just because you let them walk all over you
Like you let conservatives walk all over your gay ass?
See how, when conservatives hate gays, it doesn't bother you? Isn't that exactly the same you're accusing me of?
Hypocritical like a typical right winger

>>82806580
>fascist aesthetics are quite attractive.
And deadly for faggots. Be smart about it. That beauty is a facade to hide a sinister truth going on backstage

>>82806533
That's because fascists have very high test and thus love women and like creating families. And one thing that happens when you let communist thug criminals run free and enforce their agendas and do crime sprees, is a society where you don't see women and children. Fascists have a very terrible idea of how to go about fighting communist thugs, it's a very oafish and simple-minded solution they offer (just get rid of all of them), which is why I support liberty and free speech so we can have a conversation about how to run society instead of just arresting a bunch of people.

However, the left makes it really really really reallly reaaaally difficult to have a mature conversation with them. They think words are violence and it's possible that 2+2 could equal 5 (yes I have seen this argument made, invariably from people who say math is a racist colonial imposition on blacks and indigenous ways of knowing are superior to evil colonial science)

>>82806114
You are autistic if you think any of this is going to turn me to your side

>>82806549
I don't consider myself a conservative, but I don't need or want to consider myself like (You).
You're the left arm of the same abusive system conservatives are a part of.

>almost certain that you won't find a bf without putting in the effort
how tf do I cope with this

>>82806581
What lesson was I supposed to learn from that? Do I get an F-word pass even though I wasn't openly gay at the time? I have a feeling now I would have gotten into trouble for using the word but back then I didn't.

>>82806597
No, fascist aesthetics have their roots in Greece, Rome, the Italian Renaissance...
Historically these were all pretty great times for people who liked men.

>>82806573
>>82806592
It does bother me, but that's the far-right, not the center-right. Charlie Kirk literally said gays belong in the conservative movement and that all homosexuals have souls worthy of love. Leftists then sit around in bluesky echo-chambers moderated by someone who belongs in the CCP, and make themselves believe that he advocated stoning gays to death, which is flatly not true.

Many conservatives literally believe gay marriage is good. And I will remind you again the Obama and Hillary once opposed gay marriage.

>>82806599
The conversation has led us to you defending fascism and natalism, as a homosexual.
The conversation is mature enough, you just exposed your beliefs, and we the leftists reject it entirely.
In the end, you hold a view of society that is completely antagonist to your own lifestyle, being a faggot without any breeding intentions. That's all there is to it.
Like a nigger nazi. A gay version of kanye

>>82806601
Turning you? What the fuck do you think is this? A moratorium? I ain't trying to turn anybody, nigger. You have picked your side many years ago when you decided that hating minorities was more important to you than being one. There's no changing that. Your opinion is settled,so is mine.
You could suffer homophobia directly from the republican president, and it wouldn't change your mind. Being gay is just not a part of your life that you cherish. For you, it's only a reminder of loneliness.

>>82806630
Look, I'll say that there are some positive qualities of communism too, which I loathe, but it obviously got some things right.
>and we the leftists reject it entirely.
This is your problem. People who disagree with you can have positive qualities. Even someone who wants to murder you might love his wife and children very much. You are the one that is insisting on the polarization, because you are not mature enough to realize that there is a center option.

The people you defend are equally, if not more antagonist to my the lifestyle I wish to experience, just in a different way. But you, as a self-hating white male, care much more about being gay than that.

>>82806645
Did you know that Caucasian/European whites are a minority among the global population? Thus, if minorities must be defended, then Caucasians are worth defending.
And what about a hypothetical point when Caucasians become minorities in their own countries? Certainly, they will deserve protections as a noble minority then.

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>>82806628
>It does bother me
Not enough if you're still a conservative. Clearly you have priorities, being able to live as a free gay man ain't one.
>Kirk
He also said that he "disagreed with your lifestyle" to a gay 19 yo asking about joining conservatism.
You belong in the conservative movement, just not in the same level of straight couples. You occupy a lower tier and you're fine with that.
To quote you
>Only because you let them walk all over you

>>82806614
Your actions speak louder. You might not consider yourself a conservative but I hope you don't vote like one, cause that's what matters.

>>82806615
try going on a schizo political rant in a gay discussion thread

>>82806622
The lesson you should learn is that you shouldn't vote conservative like the other gay incels, I don't give a shit about how retarded you act in public

>>82806663
>a minority
But not where you live, which is why you had to deflect to global status.
>Cares about his white pride so much he's willing to forsake his sexuality
I'll say it again, being a celibate makes being a gay conservative a piece of cake.

>>82806671
I chose not to vote last election.
Also
You are annoying.
I may decide to vote conservative if you continue to annoy me.

At the same time

I may consider voting left if you are able to wise up and speak my language.

>>82806686
Thank you for admitting you are an irrelevant racist.

>>82806662
>People who disagree with you can have positive qualities
That was never the issue at hand. The point is choosing who to vote for. I've never seen a right winger taking his time to list the many advantages of leftism. It doesn't happen because nobody cares. You pick a side, you defend that side and be honest about your bias. Can you do it?
You can play centrist all day long. Momma,the election is coming and you will have to choose. One way or another.
The polarization is real. People who speak against it many times have their own biases at play, like you do.

>>82806689
>chose not to vote
That's the same thing of siding with the winner, whoever it is.
>An annoying leftist? That's it, I'm going maga now
You always were.

>>82806628
>Many conservatives literally believe gay marriage is good
Are these conservatives in the room with us?
The republican party opposes gay marriage today, not 10 years ago. Contextual relevance is key.
Kirk still quoted Leviticus to a woman defending gays using the bible. He quoted the verse about killing gays and called it "god's perfect law"
He also called tbe bible, the same book that asks for your head, the most perfect book in human history.

>>82806721
No.
No, I am actually a registered Democrat.

>>82806665
I have said several times that I am not a conservative. Just because I don't believe that all conservatives should be immolated and raped in Soviet gulags doesn't make me a conservative, it makes me normal and mature. See>>82806662

Your entire mode of thinking is childish. Being a minority does not invalidate being a majority. Saying center-right moderate conservatives aren't all that terrible does not make me far-right. This entire mode of thought is just purely based on division, assumption, labeling, hate and fearmongering, etc. Funny, the very thing you say all conservatives do.

Everything you are is the black-and-white fallacy.

>>82806625
But if there's one thing fascists didn't take from ancient rome is their tolerance for gays.
Which is still the standard conservative ideology today.
Curiously enough, you represent the only type of good faggot for a conservative: a celibate one
Maybe that's why you love them so much.

This conversational tendency to try to push people into defining themselves as either "left or right" makes me despise America.

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>>82806713
I have told you several times I am a centrist who has never voted. You continue to make a baseless accusation of me voting for something because it would make me easier to attack, and it would make you more angry.

>>82806754
Honestly bro, you've started to look insane to me.

>>82806565
>just because you let them walk all over you and you don't stand up for yourself
Which is exactly how you ended up as a conservative gay who cares about "anti white" racism but doesn't care one notch about anti gay sentiment in your conservative circles: you let them walk all over you without defending your dignity, like you did to kirk in this very thread.

I saw a porn drawing where someone was working out and thinking about a boy as motivation to do one more rep, then I came without touching myself at all really quickly. I think I have a deep need for someone who is motivated by stuffing my butt. Thank you for coming to my Tedx talk

>>82806525
>Those mean college girls got me kicked out
And the conservatives got you hating yourself and being a lonely celibate for life. Priorities, dude.

>>82806754
gayness in ancient Rome was more about social status and who the bottom was. Two romans of equal status could not have a relationship because one would have to be the 'woman' and thus be unmannly. A roman could fuck his male slaves all he wanted or a senator could have a relationship with someone lower than him but the high class individual always had to top.

>>82806713
>The polarization is real
Yes, and it is perpetuated by people like you who believe that the only option is that we escalate tensions and divisions forever until we annihilate everything, instead of just deescalating and seeing the positives and negatives across the spectrum.

I'm starting to think that you are a troll actually, because I don't think you are reading any of my posts. Nobody here is a conservative, I just don't want to nuke them all. I believe in a mixed economy with certain socialist programs, I just don't want totalitarian Soviet communism. This is the sane-person stance and not the schizophrenic one.

>>82806523
>Not a conservative
>Votes republican
>Hates immigrants and trannies
>Cares about "anti white racism"
>Doesn't flinch at homophobia
Is it bad calling the creature that looks and sounds like a cat, by a cat's name?
Whatever your definition of conservatism is, if you don't fit into it, it lost all meaning

>>82806523
>In this last election that is quite literally untrue.
A right winger telling lies?
Elon donated 500 millions and actively participated in the campaign. Donald is a billionaire himself. The right wing is the party of the billionaires, and they're against taxing the rich for that specific reason.
If you didn't vote, you sided with the winner

>>82806523
>The people who would "fight for my gay rights" want to take away my rights as a white male.
They don't, though. Leftists don't want to take any rights from "white men". I know that because I'm a white male and a leftist.
You have been lied to by right wing propaganda into believing every leftist is a radical feminist, while also simultaneously ignoring every instance of the right wing wanting to take your gay rights away.
How can you pretend to not be a conservative while exposing yourself as a white power fag? Delusional. For the oppressor, equality feels like a loss.

>>82806784
You can't run away from the polarization forever. It is escalating. There is no "third option". I don't make the rules, that's just history repeating. One way or another, you have to pick a side. So choose your poison. One side is pro gay, the other isn't.
Sort your priorities. A lot of white power, borderline racist boys in this thread who feel absolutely destroyed when someone says whites are bad, but they completely ignore homophobia from their side.
They care about being empowered as a white more than they care about being empowered as a gay.
Pick a side and stick to it.

>>82806777
You're a powerful retard.
Who the fuck says I hate myself?
I certainly never did

>>82806797
I have never voted
I don't like homophobia, I have faced it in own life. It is ugly.
I don't hate immigrants, I don't even hate drunk drivers, but you can't have a safe world with tolerance of drunk driving.
>>82806831
They do, you just don't understand how their rhetoric and policies negatively impact people of your race. They want to abolish any space that is conducive to white-well being, which is something that every race deserves and wants. It is natural, reasonable, and good to want safety and propagation of your own being. All races deserve that. All races want it for their own race, or the ethnicities that they actually care about.

>>82806784
>Nobody here is a conservative
Tell me how on earth could someone who opposes immigrants, trannies, and defend their white identity first and foremost, could ever be considered something other than a conservative?
You're being disingenuous. All these 2,3 or 4 posters have argued for hours are conservative talking points. They defended kirk, defended fascism based on aesthetics, defended their pride of being white, while criticizing every shade of wokism under the sun.
Have words lost all meaning to you? What do you even think a conservative is?

>>82806867
>Mentally destroyed by mean college girls
>Indifferent to homophobia in conservative spaces
>Incel
It's pretty clear that whatever is going on with your gay identity, it ain't acceptance or love.

Take notice when someone in conversation tries to box you into either "conservative" or "liberal" camps.
Such a person, either unwittingly or knowingly, IS actually trying to box you in to one of those two sides, and give up your freedom to think about things according to your own perspective and needs.

>>82806872
>have never voted
So you sided with the winner, this time with trump.
>Doesn't like homophobia
>Still sides with the homophobes on every point
If you think homophobia is so ugly, get away from the source of it: conservatism.

>>82806885
You are quite insane.

>>82806888
>I'm beyond bipartisanship
>Looks closer
>Is a magatard
Every time

>>82806854
>You can't run away from the polarization forever
Do you understand that your logic is the only thing that could actually create a civil-war or WWIII type scenario? How could you be pro-polarization. You should try to love people regardless of disagreements. You are the pot calling the kettle black.
>Pick a side and stick to it.
This is the ideology that created everything you hate so much, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, xenophobia is all created by this very thing. It is my mindset that would lead slowly toward world peace, and your mindset that "repeats history". It is the definition of small-mindedness. It's ideological purity, conformity, slavishness, self-limitation. You don't actually have to pick a side, and you shouldn't.

>>82806897
At least I don't have to make up a story about being kicked out of college for opening up a door, to justify my ideology

>>82806903
>I'm a know it all who will decide which of two shitty political parties you should be forced into
>Looks closer
>Is a jew
Every time

>>82806904
>your logic is the only thing that could actually create a [cyclical historical events bound to repetition in every century since dawn of man]
You think you can abstain from it forever? You're not Switzerland. Polarization will come to you, it already has, and then you will show what you're made of.

>>82806909
What is my ideology?
>inb4 you incorrectly assert that I am right-wing again

>>82806918
>two shitty political parties
>One is shittier
>Denies it
Typical right winger

>>82806926
>Crying about being kicked off college for rubbing a leftist girl wrong
Go ahead and be disingenuous, it's the right wing way of holding conversation

>>82806896
>So you sided with the winner, this time with trump.
You know why? Because while the center-right just wants to have a conversation, the center-life my entire life has been anti-conversation. Nobody I know who is even a moderate liberal desires any kind of open conversation about our disagreements with a moderate conservative. They almost never do.
>>82806888
Yes it's a completely dishonest and emotional way of arguing.
>>82806896
You could only think this is persuasive if you assume that I think that the most important part of my identity is that I am gay. I don't. I think being white and especially being male is the larger part of my identity.
>>82806897
I've seen studies show that the least insane group is moderate conservatives, and to the right and left there are massive comorbidities with mental illness.

>>82806645
Get help you brain diseased god complexed freakazoid

>>82806904
>racism, sexism, religious bigotry, xenophobia is all created by
Conservatism, anon. Conservatism created all that. Backed up by religion, more than 2k years ago.
You're asking me to lay down my arms and let conservatives walk over me. And that's your type of thing, not mine.

>>82806942
Have you seen the study showing that right wing beliefs are correlated with lower intelligence?

>>82806945
Lefties are very depressed people. Very miserable people. Every study on this ever has shown this. They hate their life, can't fix it because they think internal discipline and forgiving others is Nazism, so they become anti-natalist weirdos who call humanity a cancer. When they become old childless single ladies, they join environmental groups and say humanity must be eradicated.

>>82806930
Both are equally abusive to gay caucasian males.
I hope your hysterectomy goes well <3

>>82806942
>the most important part of my identity is that I am gay
To you, a gay celibate without any romantic experience, it's the least important.
The most important thing to you is the white race.
That simple ideological standpoint is the foundation upon which you build your personality.
That's why you side with the right wing, that's why you don't care when they are homophobic. Your ego is not bothered by homophobia, why should it be? There's nothing gay in your life. You could as well be asexual. There's only loneliness

>>82806938
It's like you want people to be right wing.
Curious how this is also what isreal wants.

>>82806976
Exactly, we are caught in the middle, politically homeless. One side wants us in the closet forever, the other side wants to flood the country with Muslims who want to kill us. If you're a gay white male and you choose either extreme, you just don't understand how much the side you've chosen hates you.

>>82806967
>Saying this on the incel board which coincidentally happens to be a right wing echo chamber
>Literally a gen made for depressed fags most of which are right wingers
Lmao the unawareness

>>82806949
Judaism is far older than 2000 years.

>>82806985
Your mistake is thinking I'm here to appease and entertain and charm bigots into being less bigoted. That's nigh impossible.
No one was turned into a right winger by this conversation. Their ideological positions have been held firmly for years. You're just not that honest about it.

>>82806987
>you just don't understand how much the side you've chosen hates you.
There aren't sides as far as I am concerned.
It's only heeb totalitarianism.

all this history and political aggression is making me want to light a joint and put my arm around the waist of a handsome man (grabbing his ass in the process)

>>82806976
The left wing isn't abusive to white men. You are just racist my dude.
I'm a white man who gets praise in my political activism in my leftist student union and I constantly call out anti white bias.
You fell for conservative propaganda, while you let them walk all over you for being gay.

>>82807013
Ah you're ight.
Perhaps it was my mistake to consider it worth allowing you to live.

>>82806997
There's a "more" in there for the purpose of conveying that exact sentiment.

>>82806983
No, it is more important that I am a male, then that I am irreligious, then that I am American, have certain Western European heritages, then that I am white. Then that I am gay. Then that I am human, then that I live on the Earth. It doesn't people we should kill everything that isn't a white male gay human, it's just that this is how I view and experience things. My ego is bothered by homophobia, it's just more bothered by the other things. If there was a race of gay aliens that were happy that I was a homosexual, but hated me for being a human, I wouldn't side with them. I wouldn't side with them if it were vice-versa either. I don't view it as "picking a side" just to say that these hypothetical gay aliens might have superior technology. That's not "picking their side", it's just a fact without any value judgements.

>you are just racist you are just racist anyone who disagrees with me is just racist
It's always so boring and tiresome too the arguments

>>82807028
Whatever you say (((White Man)))

you are racist you are racist you are incel you are incel you are nazi you are nazi
repeat ad infinitum

>>82807048
You've seen my white cock at least once before and glared at its whiteness and pinkie head.

>>82807045
>My agency as an Aryan male comes before the gay rights
Pretty standard racism from incels if you ask me

>>82806996
>Saying this on the incel board which coincidentally happens to be a right wing echo chamber
That's insane. It's a nobody echo chamber. Allowing all sides is not an echo-chamber, it's just that one side wants to ban the other side and will flee the platform if I'm allowed to say that men cannot turn into women, thus ceding the ground to us. Many moderates on 4chan are literally trans.
>Literally a gen made for depressed fags most of which are right wingers
We're not right-wingers we just aren't accepted or comfortable in the hyper-politicized and polarized spaces that leftists have turned the gay community into.
>>82807017
Indeed it's just normie sadism top to bottom

>>82807043
>Gay on the bottom
No wonder you have no bf and let conservatives walk all over you.
You should go back to church, they agree with everything you had to say so far, including you putting your sexual orientation in the bottom of your priorities
Which is expected of a celibate

>>82807017
There are sides and you're choosing the gay hating one while pretending to be a centrist.

>>82807028
>and I constantly call out anti white bias.
By the very fact that you need to do this shows that many leftist spaces are very comfortable to welcome and support anti-white rhetoric. Harvard University was happy to employ noel ignatiev, who said that white babies my need to die so we can abolish the white race and have racial communism.

>>82807056
Tell me
Do you want gay caucasian males on your side?

>>82807066
It's literally a right wing incel echo chamber, lmao. You are so disingenuous about reality.
When kirk died, incel tears flooded this place. This is a safe haven for incels, and it's no wonder they are all miserable.
The gay general doesn't escape it. You are all day long crying about not having a bf, only to admit that being gay is not your priority as much as being a racist.

>>82807066
>it's just normie sadism top to bottom
No, I said Heeb.
Normalfags, if left to their own devices, would probably be better people than what the ZOG system turns them into.

>>82807067
Gay is literally not on the bottom. I guess I could expand the list. I could've added green eyes, height, weight, hobbies, last name, etc, and then gay would be near the top, relatively.
Btw I was raised in an agnostic household with Democrat liberal parents. My mom literally openly says she hates white men. I wasn't raised with any religion. I'm sure homophobic Christians do plenty of damage, but for me it was the opposite team, and Democrats don't care, and they think it's funny.

>>82807090
What would that take?
>Throwing other minorities under the bus
I'll leave that price for fascists to pay. Gay Caucasian males will make a choice between white pride and gay pride, and that will seal their fate.

>>82807107
>Gay is literally not on the bottom
>It's actually in the bottom of the things he felt were worth mentioning
It's in moments like this that your mask slips off and you reveal your truth.
This is the reason why you have no bf,by the way.

>>82807092
>When kirk died, incel tears flooded this place
Yes, and also, which you conviently ignore, tons of lefties celebrated and mocked it. Even /pol/ had tons of threads joking and celebrating it. You're seeing things selectively.
>as much as being a racist.
I am not a racist. Every race deserves safety and a home. The left doesn't want to end racism at all, they just want to flip the dynamic and get whitey.

>>82807108
Being polite
That would be a start.

>>82807107
>Raised liberal
>Became an incel Who's deaf to homophobia, but hyper sensitive to anti white racism
>Homophobic christians do plenty of damage
>Still sides with them
Your mommy issues are not a valid excuse to become a gincel conservative. If you were straight, perhaps. But not as a gay.

>>82807137
Being polite never convinced anyone of changing political sides. You are always playing this narrative that right wingers are only right wing because someone on the left did them wrong, but that isn't true not even in this very thread, where immigrants and trannies were quoted multiple times as being the real reason.

>>82807151
Oh quite the contrary.

>>82807127
>tons of lefties
Ratio'd from 1 to ten, like in this very thread where there's one leftie arguing with 4 or 5 conservative gincels.
Literally a right wing echo chamber and this thread is further evidence

>>82807159
Do you fear the dark also?

>>82807127
>Every race deserves safety and a home
A home away from you, that's how you feel about brown races.
The left is all about siding with the oppressed against oppressor. You're allowed to poke fun at someone above you, but never below. Which is the exact opposite sentiment of right wing ideology, where the lesser minorities are torn to shreds.

>>82807170
The right wing party asked you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears.

>>82807139
Yeah I'm just gonna back out of this conversation because you obviously are lower IQ than me and cannot hold two ideas at once. I don't believe in "picking a side" when both sides are openly hostile to me. Actually I have more freedom and comfort in moderate right-wing spaces and still would even if I were openly in a gay relationship. I know that because I see it all the time. Studies show that its the left, and even moderate left, that break off friendships and relations much more than conservatives They're just more easy to get along with regardless of who you are. You people say the most brazenly vile shit openly and assume everyone believes with you. Conservatives will say "I disagree but we can still get along" and libs say "words are violence". I was literally a pro-atheist liberal who came out to my friend in middle school. You pushed me away, hardcore.

>>82807083
They welcome my interventions as a white men.
You're able to ignore the anti gay bias of conservatives, so why do you not extend this courtesy to left wingers?
I'll tell you why. This is what happens inside your brain
>White power>>>>>>gay power
You are deluded inti thinking that you have a spot on the oppressor team as a white man, forgetting your real place at the rear end of their party, as a homosexual

>>82807066
>We're not right-wingers
You're not honest about being one, you mean? You share your beliefs with them. I am yet to see one difference

>morshu beatboxing gif
>halo 5 political gif
>snotty boy glow up meme 2018 phonk edit gif

>>82803531
if i could, i'd make my own long, sultry, swallowtail shirts [kinda like a bath robe], long gloves and wear em with dolphin shorts
i'd also wear a mask or heavy helmet and put ceramic or steel plates under my clothes just because it's cool [kenshi reference]
sadly i don't /fa/, i only have me dress shirts n me black jeans
>>82804324
super adorable, just imagining him having fun in there...
>>82804367
this is so fucking comical and it's actually believable
the amount of complete airheads in the humanities simply boggles the mind
>>82805094
i was gonna recommend an industrial cert program, but then i remembered that that's pretty STEM
but....... thermal cutting in my opinion seems like the least STEM-intensive industrial art that i know of, yeah you gotta measure stuff and be a little precise in some basic geometry [circles and ellipses are prolly the maximum complexity you'll see] [i am talking out of my ass btw, i only took the class once but it was easy, even with my shaky hands]
once you get the handling, measuring, kerfing, and power and gas settings down, it's a relatively simple pass
idk how the market for cutting specialists is atm, but i'd assume construction companies would always want a few specialists in this because, well, welders always need clean metal and they can always need a re-do

>>82807176
Why do browns feel entitled to a home near whites?

>>82807184
So did the "Left".

>>82807176
And the Chinese deserve a home away from Japan. And the Somalians a home separate from Ethiopia. This is not because I hate Japanese and Ethiopians, this is because there are real-world consequences to lawlessness. Multiculturalism is extremely difficult to maintain. It killed Yugoslavia. Singapore doesn't devolve into madness because it is heavily authoritarian to a degree where I would not like to live there. It is an extreme burden on societies and it takes decades of effort and successful integration to pull off. It's not something you can force. I would like like to eventually get to a world where we have no need of borders, but when you pursue an open borders policy it actually swings to the opposite end. That's how history has always worked.

>>82807194
>don't believe in "picking a side
>Looks closer
>Picked the right wing
Every fucking time, you guys are so disingenuous.

>>82807194
>Actually I have more freedom and comfort in moderate right-wing spaces
Only as a closeted homosexual without a bf. Acquire a bf, hold his hand and see how quickly that table will turn.

>>82807225
You are a painfully obvious troll.