As I grow older I'm realizing that my desire for a virgin GF is very unlikely to come to fruition. To all the other anons who are dating/have dated used goods, how did you cope? I've come up with several ideas which are listed below, but if you have any alternate solutions, please give them to me.1. Give myself a cuckold fetish2. Fuck prostitutes until I have 100+ bodies3. Normalfag sportsball reddit male feminist thinking ("Bro, just think of how AWESOME she'll make my peepee feel! I'm so glad someone else taught her how to sex!")4. Stay single forever and rope
Well, in a sense, I'm used goods too, but I think my pair bonding ability is pretty fine still.Now, there's definitely women that would fit this description too.The more simple kind surely is easier to find, but what I'm into doesn't really even use dating apps. And I've also seen some things, a bunch of the girls that I know are really selective about what they have sex with. Going for years without any action despite plenty of offers. Many hundreds for sure.But they also are not looking for something that they are not fully comfortable with.
>>82871698>Well, in a sense, I'm used goods too, but I think my pair bonding ability is pretty fine still.Okay, so I should try and sleep around? I don't know how well that'll work, but maybe I'll go see a prostitute.
>>82871567#2 is more likely to make you not care.
>>82871816Sex is not that important. Only go to a prostitute if you're really hung up about being a virgin.Even then it likely will be a bad decision.Anyways, there's really not much point to be obsessed about women as most guys here are, it's actually counterproductive at best. They're just people, with tits and vaginas, and you should thread them as such.Some of them are really cool, fun to be around, have actually interesting things to say. Talk to those, spend some time together, not just thinking about how you can get into their panties.This is best to happen over friends, your friends usually have other friends, who may become your future friends.Do you have friends or social skills though?
>>82871917>Sex is not that importantNobody who is a KHHV says this, it's only sexhavers>They're just people, with tits and vaginas, and you should thread them as suchPeter Scully, Pol Pot, and Albert Fish were also people>Some of them are really cool, fun to be around, have actually interesting things to sayFrom my experience they all just talk about Love Island and Crumbl Cookies>Do you have friends or social skills though?Yes I have friends, although I haven't made new ones in nearly a decade. My social skills have atrophied.
>>82871914not opfucking a bunch of hookers sounds like a good idea desu, i'm thinking of splicing this strategy with fucking hags maybe...does anyone know how to fuck alot of older vvom*n? I'm kind of having a hard time with it right now
>>82871969>Nobody who is a KHHV says this, it's only sexhaversSo it's only people who know what they are talking about.What should be done with this information in a reasonable way?>Peter Scully, Pol Pot, and Albert Fish were also peopleWhich are not all the same indeed.The point was, amongst other things, that simping is a fool's errand.>From my experience they all just talk about Love Island and Crumbl CookiesThose I filter out brutally early. But, because my circles of friends already are filtered, I don't have to run into the type often.>Yes I have friends, although I haven't made new ones in nearly a decade. My social skills have atrophied.At least. You don't actually need any presence on social media and such either. Any intelligent female won't give a shit.You need friends though.
My girlfriend has been groped and fingered by other men, it bugs me that she calls herself a virgin but at the end of the day it is none of my business and isnt that big of a deal mainly because I also have fingered and groped her
>>82872101>So it's only people who know what they are talking about.I'm a millionaire and money never made me happy! Oh, you're dying of bone cancer and can't afford chemotherapy? Have you considered what I said?>You need friends though.All of my friends are men and all of their friends are men as well>>82872162I don't know if I would be able to tolerate this. Maybe I would be able to cope by cheating on her regularly throughout the duration of the relationship.
>>82872205>All of my friends are men and all of their friends are men as welllol
>>82872229Why is that funny to you? How would you like it if I cut your hands off like an Arab? Would you still be laughing?
>>82872205>I'm a millionaire and money never made me happy! Oh, you're dying of bone cancer and can't afford chemotherapy? You're asking all the guys that died from bone cancer for solutions, aren't you?>Have you considered what I said?Which part?>All of my friends are men and all of their friends are men as wellAha.Kinda weird.>I don't know if I would be able to tolerate this. Maybe I would be able to cope by cheating on her regularly throughout the duration of the relationship.This mainly sounds like you're just a bad person that totally deserves to die alone and in misery.
>>82871567I just feel a vague sense of apathy and disaffection that stops me from ever truly connecting to partners>stay single forever, not ropeHarden up I guess anon. That's life
>>82872261Are you the guy who said he only has male friends?
>>82872315>You're asking all the guys that died from bone cancer for solutions, aren't you?>Which part?I apologize, I understand that sometimes the lower are incapable of understanding what I say to them (quite clearly in this circumstance I might add), so let me explain it to you. What I wrote earlier was called an analogy, which you can look up if you've never heard of it. In this analogy, I compared a sexhaver to a rich man and a KHHV to a poor man suffering from bone cancer. The rich man is unburned by materialistic desires and thus has the LUXURY to worry about other things. The poor man is not. His stomach is empty and he is afflicted with a great illness which, if untreated, will lead to his DEMISE. The rich man asks "Have you considered what I said?" in reference to his previous wisdom, that money never made him happy. Now that I have spelled out to you what was so clear to ANYONE with a rudimentary grasp of the English language, I will EXPLAIN without analogy.Sex is a biological urge that compels most animals. Humans are compelled by this biological urge. If you've had sex, this urge is sated. Why would I listen to a sexhaver when they say that sex isn't important? Clearly it was important enough for you to pursue, and once you ate and were no longer hungry you ask "Why do you need to drink? I drank and no longer thirst" as I DIE of dehydration.>Aha.>Kinda weird.Fuck off>This mainly sounds like you're just a bad person that totally deserves to die alone and in misery.If a woman has casual sex why would it matter to cheat on her? After all, to her sex is just something you do for pleasure. If it has a deeper meaning, then CLEARLY she should have treated it as such.
>>82872426Yes I am. This is quite an ordinary situation. Read ANYTHING written outside the last 50 years. Do the men go to book clubs with dainty ladies? Do they have Love Island watch parties or do Crumbl Cookie mukbangs in their Toyota Corrola with "the besties?" NO!For nearly all of history, men have not been friends with women. You are lovers or you are acquantinces, but deep friendship with women doesn't occur with women in the same way it does with men.
>>82872459>ordinary situation>"All of my friends are men"lol.
>>82872446It seems like you're an extraordinary smart individual...person.Well, from what has been gathered over the years, I score from around 132 to 145 in regular IQ tests. My dad is somewhat esoteric, he confuses even the pros and they say he's around 190 apparently.He's my dad, apparently he had sex before.More soon!
>>82871567>how did you cope?rationalise.>Do I really want to have children?No.>Do I want to lose half of my shit and land in jail because of a marriage, engagement, or possibly even a relationship?Fuck no.>Do I want to lose my resources (time, money, freedom, effort) on some bullshit like her friends, parents, or retarded female ideas?Absolutely fucking not.>Are females highly intelligent?No.>Will females make my life easier?No.>Will females shoulder any responbility and ease my current burden?No.>Is being mercantile in their nature?Yes.>Are there even virgins?No.>Why?Because they're retarded, were brainwashed, raised wrong, are being useful idiots by destroying the societal fabric, don't give a shit, or wanted to have fun, and don't think it's that much of a big deal.>Are bitches even worth it in 2025?No.And much, much more.Why would I even ever bother in this world? If the humanity ever wanted me to try and give a shit about anything, it should've provided me with better society, incentives, and rewards.TL;DR: There is no point in playing. You will only ever lose in some way. Choose another game, like watch your number go up, and up, and grow. Learn to weld, if you're a welder, learn blacksmithing. If you're a metalworker, learn quantum physics.
>>82871567the real solution is to not be a neet and live real life and then you'll attain so many problems that instead of comparing urself to historical traditional ideals (grrrr, why can't I be one of the guys who got to have a virgin gf), you'll understand the gravity of life and be glad to be loved by anyone at all. real people aren't perfect, thats why most normies don't obsess over virginity, because they understand this.
>>82872603I have a full time job. Here is a deal. If you're a single female, who is not widoved, without children, and no a virgin, then you're biotrash. End of story.
>>82872473Nearly everyone uses words like "awesome" to describe the sandwich they had yesterday. I do not. When I say that I hate you I truly mean it. My hatred for you is cooked into my bones by the white-hot anger in my heart. It will persist long after I die and decompose. My hatred will forever follow you and your descendants. It will nourish the rosebush whose thorns will prick your children's ankles. It will grow into a mighty tree whose fruits fall onto your grandchildren's heads and crack their fragile little skulls. It will permeate all the life that surrounds you. The insects who nest in its bark will learn my hate, as will the frogs who eat them and the snakes who eat those frogs and the wolves who eat those snakes. They will serve as my vengeance and devour your family, and only when every last reminder of your existence has crumbled to dust will I rest.
>>82872684If you are still a sexless dork, you've been resting a little too much bud. Stop resting and go outside!
>>82872532The mean IQ is 100, with a standard deviation of 15 points. An IQ of 190 is 6 standard deviations above the mean, making him nearly 1 in a billion. I doubt this, especially given that it's essentially impossible to test for an IQ higher than 145 with any accuracy. In the past I was delusional enough to think that women would be attracted to my intelligence. I took many different IQ tests and prided myself on scoring 145s on all of them but one, which I scored 142 on. At the time this made me angry but now I DO NOT CARE. Why would I care? Women HATE intelligence, and even if I WERE intelligent, it has done me NO GOOD. I would much rather be a RETARD with a wife than a genius with no one.
>>82872603I do live life. I have a job and I go to university. Any of the "problems" I face there are nothing compared to my lack of a dainty freckled virgin girlfriend.
>>82871567i'd only date used goods if she had a max of 1 other body and it was a from a serious relationship, and she is ashamed of it and knows she's worthless used goods and will apologize to me profusely
>>82872718Those were estimations of the people professionally doing those tests.He also holds three PHDs, one in electronics, one in experimental physics (also my field) and also one as a Med. Dent., which, in your country likely would be a fancy dentist. Plus surgery related to that field.
>>82871567I've decided to stay volcel. I'm simply not going to kiss a mouth that sucked someone else's cock. Or someone who once had seemingly unbreakable love for another man. It means it was all just a sham and I could very well be the next victim of such a sham. I'm 31, it's not happening and it never really began. Time to be grateful that I'm healthy, in good shape, have hobbies, good parents, a few good friends and a comfy, decently paid job. Things could be much worse and not getting to have a virgin gf is not the end of the world.
>>82872718you're larping as a high intelligence anon, faggot. 145IQ anon doesn't give a shit about having a wife, because he is on a different plane of existence.Take Einstein, for example, imagine the thoughts and processes inside of the brain to be able to mathethically formulate and prove two theories of relativity. You think Albert even used his brainpower on finding a wife? lmao.It either happens automatically, or anon is autismal and then it's a lil too late for it to happen automatically, effortlessly.
>>82872795Why are you acting confrontational only to agree with me?>145IQ anon doesn't give a shit about having a wifeThis is what I said you stupid fucking nigger
>>82872795>145IQ anon doesn't give a shit about having a wife, because he is on a different plane of existence.Even as a "lowly" 128 IQ sub-genius, I am pretty much scared of marriage and having kids, because then I'd lose my freedom and become poor. Also, bringing the government into my relationship and setting an artifficial, massive punishment for wanting to end the relationship are both fucking retarded and in the best interest of the state and the woman (courts favor women/kids), not mine.
>>82872801No, you don't. I can read your feelings in your posts. Speak the truth, anon. You're mad at bitches for not spreading their legs for you because>muh intellectBitches are retarded, even midwits know that.
>>82872795Another high iq anon here.Pussy matters. It matters anon. Almost everything else doesn't.
>>82872810Flawless argumentation of a rational position. I believe in your 130iq.
>>82871567Honestly if you're even over 21 this dream is kind of not going to happen. Best thing to do is just focus on other aspects of life. Its what I do
>>82872818>Another high iq anon here.Above 105-110 (real IQ) a human can easily subdue animalistic feelings and tendencies. It's very powerful. Not being able to control yourself (feelings, impulses, very bad discipline) is a clear indicator of low intelligence quota.
>>82872857The fun part is finding females with an IQ above around 120.
#1 fear is falling in love with a man who (secretly) thinks like thisTERRIFYING
>>82872603I think you're missing a fundamental part of the issue: it's not just that they want a virgin, it's that they want a partner who values personal relationships as much as themselves. Like it or not being promiscuous is degrading and shows a person neither values themselves or others all that much, it is not unreasonable to see that as more than a blemish and instead as a deal breaker.
>>82872909>My #1 fear is falling in love with a man who won't be attracted to my disgusting behaviorDo foids really?
>>82872977i've never had sex beforei still think this mindset is a dealbreaker!!!
>>82872795>You think Albert even used his brainpower on finding a wife?Yeah and I think you're fucking retarded if you think Einstein was some living computer without needs and emotions.
>>82872984>i've never had sex before>i still think this mindset is a dealbreaker!!!Why did you feel the need to qualify your statement with your body count if body count doesn't matter?
>>82872603Guys do seek out virgins but normies just keep it to themselves when they settle
>>82873007because >>82872977 implied i engaged in casual sex or whateveri will be choosy-er when it comes to finding a man because this mindset sucks!!!!
>>82873062Why does this mindset suck?
>>82872795>145IQ anon doesn't give a shit about having a wife, because he is on a different plane of existence.I would like to believe that at least some of you could make some decent decisions.I've said it from the start.Decent wife's are got by making decent decisions.
>>82873085oh brother i'm not going into this againtldr; be kind
>>82873100It's not kind to use people as a serial dopamine source. Again, promiscuity is a sign that a person is just simply not a good or caring person.
>>82873100Okay, so you have no explanation is what I'm getting.
>>82873114>>82873115this topic makes me blackpill myself when i elaborate and i haven't even had breakfast yet!!!!!
>>82873043>normies just keep it to themselves when they settleThis. I have one friend who is the biggest normalfag in the world. Football, beer, and wings on the weekends, only plays CoD, if he's feeling especially adventurous he might go play pickleball. When he broke up with his girlfriend I asked him about it and he was vague. "Oh, we just had different goals in life." I went over to his place one weekend to watch football and after a few beers he started crying about her body count and how he couldn't get over it (it was 8, which isn't even particularly high for modern holes). Basically every man with an ounce of self-respect cares about this stuff, even if they don't say it.
>>82873124>this topic makes me blackpill myself when i elaborateWhy? Are you so disturbed by the fact that men have standards too? The standards in question being incredibly low and easily attainable for all women who aren't whores.
>>82873124You should have breakfast tho
>>82873141it makes me never ever want to have sex ever actuallybut again, breakfast first>>82873145i'm gonna make a breakfast burrito ty anon :]
>>82873154>If I can't be a whore then I'll never ever have sex!cuntoid logic baffles me
>>82873168that's not at all what i was saying dork!!!!
>>82873195Then explain what you were saying
>>82873134Yerp, normalfags are just able to mask how disgusted they are
>>82873283yeah the solution to this is probably hookers and if you can run through as many grills as you can.Cheating idk about since I don't like the idea but I've heard some married guys complain about sexlessness even though i know for a fact their wife was a free use hole before they got together.I say if thats you cheat with hookers and keep it a secret
>>82871567Even if she was raped? Is she still used goods?
I'm still 140 iq.None of my dear readers is.
>>82873702I'd say that's not even in the same category and doesn't count barring exceptional circumstances.
>>82871567Live your life, enjoy it. If pussy makes itself available, fuck it until you're bored, then pass it to the next guy. Just don't fall in love with a 3D woman, that's all.
>>82873702If she was raped no, if she was "raped" yes
>>82873702Yes, obviously. How much of a dent is there in your head? Putting yourself into a position to get raped in the first place is a red flag. It doesn't matter what you're wearing, it does matter where have you been, and with whom, and why didn't you fight, and why didn't you call for help.The question is, you were at a college party, high on free drugs, getting railed by Chad. Now you try to claim "rape", because you regret being a trash whore. Keep your fairy tales to yourself.
>>82871567Maybe ask God or do rituals from the bottom of your heart.When I met my bf we were both kissless virgins, although he is 7 years older than me. I was 22. We met online playing video games in that kind of community. I was a virgin because I felt like a disgusting goblin and shut myself into the online world. I suppose there is now also the danger that young women post nudes or sext online, especially if men take advantage of them and groom them into that.
>>82871567Nigga virginity isn't that deep especially if you're over 25. Just because you've been a shut in all your life and taken zero chances on women doesn't mean the rest of the world has. I bet you're not even a virgin though
>>82874169retarded ass normie. You don't belong here. Who the fuck asked biotrash? Who the fuck asked? Shut up and sudoku nao.
>>82874180Nigger keep denying reality till it hits you in the face. You wish you were a normie. You don't even deny not being a virgin.
>>82874169>I bet you're not even a virgin thoughI am a virgin. I am 22 years old and have never had sex. I have never made out, kissed, hugged, held hands, or spoken with a woman romantically.
>>82874105An indian wrote this.
>>82874229OK... And what's stopping you from trying exactly? Some cuckold fantasy about chads? Or maybe a fantasy where a woman will call the cops on you for trying?You're still at an age where you can find an 18 yo virgin or younger depending on your country. Do something.
>>82874271Indians and Muslims are the future. Enjoy Sharia soon, retard.
>>82874291Remember the time when people considered you smart?No?Well, there's a reason for that.
>>82874273Foids are stopping me from trying by hating me for being a gentleman. They don't like kind, caring men like me.
>>82874314I will enjoy every last second of you being enslaved by Muslims.
Why does being a sugar daddy never come to you guys mind?
>>82874339You sound incapable of joy
>>82874324Okay calm down supreme gentleman. There are women looking for kind sweet men, but you need to identify them. A woman isn't going to come knocking on your door asking to be your gf..
>>82874369>there are mentally ill retarded obese ran through whores who are ready to settle, but they're a princess, so make an effort you focking plebfixed your message for you
>>82874396Ngmi. At the end of the day you choose to be miserable and do it to yourself daydreaming pure negativity. One day you'll snap out of it and realise how retarded you were.
>>82874324Are you someone who doesn't have many female friends?
>>82874369>There are women looking for kind sweet men, but you need to identify themLet me guess, these women are morbidly obese and looking to settle down after having their fun.
>>82874435I don't have a single female friend. Zero.
>>82871567Secret 5th cope: realizing there's a lot of room between virgin and whoreEven if you can't have a virgin, you might find a girl who's only had like two or three exes, and your dick might be bigger than theirs if you're lucky.
>>82874433Listen, kiddo. You have to be at least 18 to post here, alright. You know nothing about the real world and the dynamics. The world is headed into an arse and I'm just enjoying the journey, because I have checked out of your retarded species and society like two decades ago.
>>82874447>I don't have a single female friend. Zero.I have plenty.
>>82871567What's with the black and white thinking? Chances are if you meet a decent woman, she hasn't been that promiscuous. Just expect the average number appropriate for her age range. There's also the phenomenon that virgin women are always curious about what else is out there after they have lost their virginity to you and she will end up cucking you anyway. With a non-virgin, she will have made up her mind of what she wants sexually from you, thereby increasing the chances of sexual compatibility with you. As long as she is sexually attractive and loyal to you, what else really matters?
>>82874461Okay? Are you proud of being a feminized slave retard who hangs out with foids and talks about love island all day?
>>82874466Listen here retarded whore>the average number appropriate for her age range.is 0. And it doesn't fucking matter how old she is. It's either 0 or you're a worthless whore. End of story.
>>82874466>As long as she is sexually attractive and loyal to you, what else really matters?I only find virgins sexually attractive, and if she were loyal to me she wouldn't have slept with other men before meeting me.
>>82874440Crazy how you autists will invent scenarios to cope with the fact that you are incapable of putting in any effort. There are so many people on this earth and you are incapable of imagining a scenario where you get over your fear of rejection enough to get a normal gf. >>82874453>no u niggerI was 22 when I met my virgin gf. Go ahead and continue writing your pseudo-cuck fanfic.
>>82874492>pseudo-cuck fanfic.is the story of your life, you retarded normalnigger. You don't belong here. Nobody gives a shit that you're a good cucky who accepts any whore and licks the boots. Nobody asked about your worthless anecdotal bullshit, you imbecile.
>>82874447>I don't have a single female friend. Zero.What is wrong with you?
>>82874520Charles, is that you?
>>82874514That's the point. You don't belong in a relationship. You are just a degenerate porn addicted whore. I bet you have no kids.
>>82874480>>82874491Let's say you meet the perfect virgin and she loses her virginity to you, then you get tired of her and dump her. From that moment on, she becomes a worthless whore, whereas before the moment she lost her virginity to you, she was worthy of your graces? Unless you're a high status alpha male, then any woman who chooses to lose her virginity to you is a poor judge of character, and was destined to be a whore anyway.
>>82874538He doesn't hang out with virgin women. He is a retard.
>>82874538>she becomes a worthless whoreOnly if you feel that way about non-virgins, also as long as she doesn't have sex with anyone else I still view her as valuable.
>>82874587Your view is meaningless. If a girl has any sexual interaction with you then she is a whore.
>>82871567i try not to think about it. when i think about it, it sucks. mainly when we have sex. i can tell she has done this before.
>>82874594Your retarded misunderstanding of my view is meaningless, yes.
>>82874619I wasn't misunderstanding anything. You want a whore.
>>82874621Sure. You can think whatever you want.
>>82874514>more pseudo-cuck fanficYour autistic rage proves my point faggot. Yes I'm a normalnigger for finding an autistic virgin wife, I don't even care about virginity but that's what I got. Anecdote my balls on your chin and keep coping, that will help you find a gf. Also your gentlemanly kindness oozes from your posts.
>>82874629>Suredisgusting.
>>82871567Honestly if you're not waiting for a home-schooled church girl to turn legal and swooping in then you're doing it wrong.
>>82874532I'm a volcel, you retarded whore. You don't exactly get any points for being such an imbecile.>>82874634>Your autistic rage proves my point faggot.0/2 you mong.>Yes I'm a normalnigger>I don't even care about virginity Yes and you don't belong here. It's easy to spot an 80iq retard and his obvious worldview. You don't have anything of any value that you could possibly contribute here. Just a drooling retard normalfaggotry>just have sex, maaaaaaaaanfucking biotrash. You don't understand it, because you ability to see and analyze is about that of a rock, but you're the reason the western socities will fall. Good luck explaining to your children or more like grandchildren, why they're a eunuch for some random kebabamerican.>Also your gentlemanly kindness oozes from your posts.See, you're such stupid cattle you don't even realize that completely different anons reply to your retarded normalfaggotry. Go suck a corporate dick, you imbecilic whore.
>>82873702Shes undesirable in other ways, its not her fault but she does have loads of mental issues that people dont want to deal with
>>82874538I know people lie on the internet, but the shit you're describing is why I'm a volcel. When I look at a woman I ask myself>Am I willing/going to spend the rest of my life with this personThe answer obviously is hell fucking no, most people are ugly AF. So, I don't even start talking to/flirtin with that person, because it's a waste of resources with a shitty outcome anyway. There are other reasons, but no girls have ever lost their virginity to me. And no now women are good enough for me, because none of them are virgins.It's no rocket surgery, really.
I find myself getting weirdly attracted to your posts, OP. It might just be fascination with your mind.I'm a man btw.
>>82874701>muhiqif you were so smart it wouldn't be hard to get a gf retard hahahahaha
>>82874647This is exactly what I would like to happen. Ideally I would get a dainty, young, beautiful, feminine woman who looks like picrel but most church girls in America have cuckold dads who step in the way of this happening, only to send their daughters off to a party school 1000 miles away. I don't understand why der boomer prefers their daughter having sex with 50 random strangers during college rather than 1 caring older gentleman who will take care of her during high school.
>>82874768do you mind me posting your photo as a picrel, anon? You're too stupid to understand the difference between standards and having some random whore as a gf.
>>82871567>virgin GFUnironically is that even a thing in the modern day? I gave up on that idea when I was like 14. Not that it matters. If God wills it great, but I don't really care for women. I fee like I'd find more in life sitting on a rock in the woods doing nothing for the rest of my life.
>>82871567After becoming a wizard I stopped caring about women virgin status, I just want to find some one to love me. If a woman being a virgin really that important to you then do something about it. Fly to the middle east, Africa, or anywhere in Sea to buy a virgin wife. Go to a church in the south and groom young white girls to be your future virgin wife.if you are too lazy to do the work on getting a virgin wife, get a therapist to help cope or find a nice tree in the woods to be friends with.
>>82874762>I find myself getting weirdly attracted to your posts, OP. It might just be fascination with your mind.This is only because we are separated by a computer. In real life, you would probably think something like this:>What a freak! Listen to the way he lisps his s's>Why does he walk like a robot? Wierdo>Ew, did this incel fag just hold the door for me?like every other person thinks about me.
>>82874824Nah, I'm too busy thinking about myself to care about how someone else acts around me. You know. Thinking about something I did an hour ago and how weird I probably looked. I accept 99% of what is thrown at me.
>>82874780I can understand why. The fear would be that an older man would take advantage of her naivete and manipulate her. It's better for her to slut around with men her age, far away, without her father's knowledge, as it's become somewhat of a rite of passage. What you are proposing is universally seen as creepy and predatory, and any father with a conscience would disapprove.
>>82871567All your options are gay. Just dont give a fuck about wanting a relationship. Do you REALLY want a woman around you 24/7? Do you REALLY want to get married knowing what the likely outcome is? Just live in the moment, have sex with different girls, and don't settle down with one.
>>82874789And yet you don't try to get either. Explain why you self sabotage?
>>82874884You're retarded. The answer to your question is in the post replying to you. I'm a volcel. I quit this bullsiht long ago for reasons other than virginity. But being whores doesn't help the female case at all.
>how to copeeasy, they dont want us
>>82874105Kids get raped
