Is he really the most corrupt president in US history? Genuinely asking.
>>82871695Let's see what Mr. Idiot Piece of Shit Robot thinks
>>82871695Yes but it's okay because being fat, retarded, and senile make people with blue hair mad. All 20 of them.
>>82871695Probably. But how bad does that make "the other side" if they can't even beat a corrupt convicted felon?
>>82871764I think it says more about it his constituency.
>>82871800Hmm let's admit it though, Kamala would have dominated at the polls if she had just taken the anti-genocide stance
>>82871716That feels to me like cheating a bit, giving a sort of neutral cop-out answer. The stuff he got convicted of isn't even close to the most corrupt things he's done, whether it's shady billion-dollar business deals with Saudi Arabia or blatant donations from rich Zionists or the countless low quality China-made brand products he sold or the crypto bribes or getting blatant favors from other presidents for his businesses or pardoning all kinds of awful conmen.
>>82871695Trump's probably most corrupt, but Biden's 2nd and Obama's 3rd. The US courts essentially legalized corruption in 2010 and the only people who can win the presidency now do it on corporate bribe money.>>82871716Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe all committed treason, a capital crime, though. Adams was even specifically excluded from a British offer of amnesty.Tyler also committed it (served in the confederate congress) and wasn't even a Founding Father.
>>82871800I mean, a LOT of people know he's corrupt. Know he's convicted. Know he's a clown. They just don't give a shit because a corrupt clown that have no idea wtf he is doing is better than a corrupt clown that know what they're doing (because none of the corrupt clowns are looking out for you).
>>82871820Well, let's be technical and reasonable. Corruption is crime in government, since the government is supposed to stop crime. It is rather corrupt, perhaps excessively to a cartoonish degree, to have a leader who is a convicted criminal.
>>82871824>Trump's probably most corrupt, but Biden's 2nd and Obama's 3rdI don't know about that, wouldn't Nixon or someone like that beat some of them?
>>82871824Crime Against The British Isn't Real Crime
>>82871695blatantly yes
>>82871695and the next one will be the new most corrupt, it's only gonna get worst
>>82871842Yeah, the other anon is right about legalized bribery, though. "If it's not technically illegal, then it doesn't count as corruption" isn't much of an excuse, but these days nobody even cares to properly justify their awful acts anymore because they know they'll get away with it.
>>82871828Sorry but that's fucking stupid. Trump support isn't a well thought out position by anyone but the wealthy, it's an expression of collective upset by morons.It's retarded because in the process Trump has consolidated more and more power which will just be exercised by the establishment which Trump supposedly is fighting against when the old man croaks, which won't be long away cause he's 80 lmao.The reason his supporters don't care is because he functions as an avatar of their anger and frustration and desire to be heard vs a actual steward for policy positions they support. MAGA doesn't control Trump, trump controls MAGA.
>>82871695I can only imagine what the reaction from the right would have been if Obama or Biden allowed a country involved with 9/11 to build an airforce base in the US would have beenBut since it was Dear Leader, it's "Eh, who fucking cares?" No consistency with these people whatsoever.
>>82871824>Trump's probably most corrupt, but Biden's 2nd and Obama's 3rdLmao MAGA cope is astounding. Bush 2, Nixon, Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover were way more corrupt than Biden or Obama. Not to mention the presidents that were in office during the Gilded Age.
>>82871873Well, it's the billionaires' faults. They should have been paying people more, and now the social contract is broken because people don't feel like they have enough to share.
>>82871695not even close. you're telling me Biden somehow got more votes than Trump? That absolute black hole of charisma. Surely TDS wasnt so rampant that the left would legitimately rig the election just to elect someone so senile he forgets what he's talking about mid sentence.
>>82872106>charismaElections aren't popularity contests. They're a method for electing government officials, preferably who are interested in governing, which would make a boring person more preferable.
>>82871695does it matter? all modern american leaders are imperialist murderers of innocent people. theyre all scum, whether or not they fit whatever you consider the definition of corrupt to be.your democrats or your republicans, all your leaders are evil. of course, americans are the most propagandised people this side of north korea, so very few understand that, but it's still true
>>82871968>The reason his supporters don't care is because he functions as an avatar of their anger and frustration and desire to be heardyes. a politician is meant to be a representive of the people. their voice. the real complaint you should have is why so many people are angry at the system that they would elect someone who hates it just as much. if people are voting right SPECIFICALLY to keep the left out of power, then that's a issue with the left.Why are the people angry at the establishment, Biden? Why are the people angry, Obama. What did you fuck up?
>>82872118>Elections aren't popularity contests.they literally are. if your policies arent popular with the people you dont get elected. we dont have a commitee sitting around discussing who should be in charge, we have a system where a politician must win votes from the common man
>>82872145>we dont [sic] have a commitee [sic] sitting around discussing who should be in chargeYes, we do. That's what political debates are. The candidates get together in a committee and discuss why they should be in charge.
>>82872186>The candidates get together in a committee and discuss why they should be in chargethey do not, unless the committee is the common man listening to it. how is this so hard to understand? it's not the government voting on who gets to be president, it's the citizen.
>>82872197>the committee is the common manThat is how a public forum operates! Isn't democracy great?
>>82872106>you're telling me Biden somehow got more votes than Trump? That absolute black hole of charisma.People voted against Trump, not for Biden. And he made a mess of the initial covid response in front of the entire world, claiming it was a nothingburger while saying it's serious and deadly in leaked private messages and stuff like that. People panic voted Biden, even though commentators were warning about his cognitive decline even then (especially the Bernie bros).
>>82872121Yeah, but in the past, leaders still tried to lie about it. Biden was talking about making America moral again or whatever, Bush was basically acting like he had a divine mandate to invade Iraq etc.These days it's basically: "Yes I am Satan, pleased to meet you give me money!"
>>82872204it's not perfect. obviously cletus who's never read a political book in his life still gets to vote, and has equal worth to mine, but it's still better than only the elite getting to vote. we tried that once, it just lead to corruption and nepotism. that's why dictatorships are bad. yall are so occupied with mocking democracy that you fail to realise it's the best system we have for deciding leadership. if nothing else it doesnt lead to nepotism or might makes right. or divine rule or whatever nonsense those europeans (ew) came up with
>>82871695no but he's the most shameless about it
>>82872222nobody handled covid properly, and it will go down as one of humanity's biggest L's that the least dangerous pandemic we've ever had shut down the world.>but my grandma diedshe was old. how long did she have left?>but long covid!it's been 5 years and society is still chugging along>but nobody knew how mid it was! in the beginning it was looking like the next black Death!it wasnt. in the beginning it was just a mild concern. people could choose to self isolate if they wanted or just ignore it. it's not until the government made it official that the lockdowns happened. The truth is people panicked and made stupid decisions and somehow Trump is blamed for causing it when every other country was being even more retarded
>>82871843The stuff that made Nixon a scandal is just common practice that every presidential candidate does now. I'd say Bush was the second most corrupt, if not even more corrupt than Trump, though. The Patriot Act and the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were just that terrible.
In recent history sure. There may have been more corrupt ones 100+ years ago when we didn't have much accurate records.
>>82872106So you're saying Biden was more corrupt because he won the election against Trump? You are one submissive miga sheep.
>>82872339Obviously basement dwelling high school dropouts like you know far better than all the world's medical professionals and scientists about how to tackle chinkflu.
>>82872371i'm saying his victory was sus af and that the left absolutely rigged the election. we have proof that trump votes just werent getting counted properly. people admitted to it. he stole that election and the rightoids are so obsessed with following the rules that they let him get away with it
>>82872384nobody knew how to tackle chinkflu because by the time anyone took it seriously it was too late to test. i was there at the very start. people played it safe than sorry for what turned out to be nothing and in doing so fucked the economy as well as the formative years for many gen alpha.
Trump isn't powerful enough to be the most corrupt. The Bush family has always mogged him.
>>82872339>it wasnt. in the beginning it was just a mild concern. people could choose to self isolate if they wanted or just ignore it. it's not until the government made it official that the lockdowns happened. The truth is people panicked and made stupid decisions and somehow Trump is blamed for causing it when every other country was being even more retardedThe panic wasn't caused by the lockdowns, it was building up before them.
>>82872391>we have proof that trump votes just werent getting counted properly. people admitted to it.What proof? Because when they did the recounts, all they got was that Biden won by even more.
>>82872391>i'm saying his victory was sus afHow?>we have proof that trump votes just werent getting counted properly. people admitted to it.Where is this proof and why has Trump not used it to prosecute everyone involved?>he stole that election and the rightoids are so obsessed with following the rules that they let him get away with itYou are either extremely stupid or outright lying. No proofs have ever been presented. So are you mentally handicapped or a liar?
>>82872010> the most obvious puppet in history since the Ottoman era> "10% for the big guy"nah totally not corrupt at all you damn magats
>>82873163>nah totally not corrupt at all you damn magatsNobody said that though. "More corrupt than" doesn't mean that one party isn't corrupt, just that they're less corrupt than who they're being compared to. I'm sure Hunter did plenty of shady deals. It doesn't change the fact that it's a matter of millions at most, whereas Trump's stuff involves billions. I'm not excusing any of it, just saying.
>>82871695The most openly criminal and blatantly accepting favors/gifts? Yes.The most powerful and receiving the biggest gifts? Not likely.Trump just does his business out in the open. Whereas we had to make documentaries to catch the Bushs and the Clintons being sleazy.
>>82874234I think it's a matter of access as well. Trump has all kinds of businesses across the world and his crypto stuff, whereas many others politicians had fewer resources to be corrupt through. Sure, some had scam universities (so did Trump) and sold speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars or more, but even so it's unlikely that their actions were as far-reaching as the Trump/Kushner stuff. Still corrupt as hell though, don't get me wrong.
>>82871824Lobbying didn't start in 2010 doebiet
>>82874234>see trump is such a stand up guy he airs his dirty laundry we know himUnreal how easily retards eat up propaganda.
