Average university lecture in Eastern Europe> mandatory attendance (0% grade contribution, but you auto-fail the subject if your attendance is <75%)>12 homeworks/semester (0% grade contribution, but if you don't get more than 50% correct on at least 9, you auto-fail)>6 'bonus' projects (you have to solve at least 2/6 correctly to get a B regardless of final, 4/6 for A)> final exam (50% of grade, 4 tasks, no grading curve, at least 50% correct to pass, fuck up 1 minus or something dumb in the solution, you lose the whole task)> oral exam (50% of grade, 3 questions, each is some proof or derivation of a formula).I am not even exaggerating, this is the exact terms of one of my uni lectures this year. Others are not much better. I don't ever want to hear burgers or westeuro tards complaining about how hard their uni is.
>>82872546If you can choose which professors to pick, talk to the oldfags and ask who are the most lax ones.
>>82872560I can't chose professors. Nor subjects really haha. We get like one elective per semester, the rest is mandatory classes.Bonus, if you fail any mandatory, you basically can't enroll in any from the next year because they are all required.
>>82872546I live in western shitrope and it works exactly the same except the oral exam is just an extra written exam/or a few big group projects or applied case works.
Eastern European universities are supposedly so tough yet so few are in the top 500 unis of the worldwhy is that
>>82872546Every shit teacher has their own unique way of making exams. Good teachers give you a regular test and curve.
>>82872741Because difficulty has little to do with ranking. What makes the ranking is first and foremost the students, some of the top ranking unis have dogshit infrastructure and equipment that gets mogged by no-name unis you've never heard of. But because they're renowned, they get a self-reinforcing cycle in which they attract the best students because everyone wants to go study over there for prestige. Oh, and obviously there's also the nepo baby factor, some top unis basically exist for the kids from rich and influential families to go meet up and start networking.
>>82872741grade inflation in the west. If you don't leave college/uni without a 4.0 GPA you are a retard.
>>82872758I thought it was based by how much research the uni churns outwith such a rigorous curriculum youd figure Eastern Europeans would punch above their weight when it comes to research but it doesnt seem to be the case
>>82872546You get the pleasure of joining us elitebots in looking down on the intellectual plebs.Its not all bad
>>82872787>I thought it was based by how much research the uni churns outThat does weigh into it yeah but like I said the highest ranking unis attract the best students so they churn out more highly-cited papers. I live in some shithole where there's only 1 uni that ever makes it into worldwide top 200 rankings. I studied there. It was actually terribly mismanaged and falling apart. There are random literal who unis in here with a much higher quality environment, and they even attract some damn good professors through high wages, but they still contribute fuck all in terms of highly cited research because the people with potential are attracted to the shitty but high ranking uni.
>>82872546>at least 50% correct to pass, fuck up 1 minus or something dumb in the solution, you lose the whole task)Are europoors really? I'm fucking south american and we require 60% correct to have the minimum passing grade. That's the standard. Attendance is also mandatory.
Modern university is such a meme, the minimum passing grade should be 100%, anything less means you are a fucking retard that doesn't deserve his degree and least of all deserves to do any job that meddles in the life of others.
>>82872869>t. NEET who barely graduated hs.
>>82872787Problem is that most Eastern Europe unis are outdated and very theory focused. Which is important, but is much less fertile for papers. My physics barely has any practical classes despite experiments being so important in physics. It's all just pen and paper theory (not even any programming or such).
>>82872546We need oral exams. We'd get rid of fake students real fast with that.
Other than the attendance requirement (and even that is fairly normal for discussion based classes), that all seems pretty reasonable. What are you complaining about?
>>82872858If it's high school difficulty level, that would make sense.A proper exam has a class average of 50. That means you're using the whole grading scale to distinguish among the students.
>>82873303I personally prefer oral exams, so I agree. Especially today in the age of ChatGPT and such. But it's a pain having both written and oral. Especially when it feels like you are studying for 2 different subjects.
>>82872546It depends on what uni you pick. I got sick and tired of the bullshit you mentioned and moved to a "low reputation" uni in my hometown. Graduated 2nd in my class with a scholarship and immediatly got a job in my field. I attended almost all the classes but courses were skippable and some people got passing grades despite barely even seeing them. One of my coworkers finished the "hard" university I left and makes about the same wage as me now, kek. He's also bald, obese and wrinkly from the stress while I look 7yrs younger than I am. No debt because state paid for the education and I live rent-free with parents. On my way to retire early. Already have 20k Euro saved/invested after 2.5yrs on the job.
>>82873355It's not a discussion based class, though. It's physics haha.Tbh my main gripe is the stupid 'bonus' projects. You get like 1 weekend for each and they can fuck up your grade because even if you get 100% on written and oral exams, you can still only get a C at most if you didn't solve them. And they are always like multi-page derivations plus simulations. So it's a pain.
>>82873356Are you referring to my class or OP's. The grading curve is rarely adjusted for class curve, this is only done when nobody managed to reach a 100%. The standard is that to pass, you must have 60% correct or more. It's not relative to the class average, only in the cases mentioned above does relativity come into play. If a test has 100 points, you need 60 points minimum to pass, that's it.
>>82872546yep thats accurate, my favourite part was when professors don't answer emails for a week straight and don't show up to their consultations. the eastern euro mind needs cuckening by authority figures to function properly, if our unis weren't this rough most retards wouldn't bother ever attending classes or studying anything.thankfully i finished my bachelors and I don't have to get cucked anymore
>>82873379Oh no, they assign homework? And it counts toward your total grade?This still sounds exactly like every university class I ever took.
>>82873500It's not homework. That is in addition to homework. And it doesn't count towards the grade. If you solve them, you can get the higher grade (but only if you also get it in the exam) but if you don't solve it, you can't get the higher grade even if you get all correct on final exams. It's imo idiotic, just based on principle. At least then don't call them 'bonus' projects.
