Steroids ruined being natural, normies way over estimate what you can be naturally.
>>82873300it's fine man, once you can rep 1/2/3/4 you'll mog 95% of the normies anyways, no one in my friend group lifts only online it seems like everyone lifts but I head outside and no one does
>>82873341Feel like its way less than 95%, you overestimate the number of people who exercise properly.
>>82873373mogging 95% as in only 5% actually liftsobesity + overweight stats are like 80% the other 15% is healthy weight dyel rooner types
>>82873300It's the opposite, normalfags think a guy with like 15 inch arms must be roiding to be that big and are extremely impressed by just being lean. The only people being fooled about what's achievable natty and what's not are retarded gymcel teens like yourself who just started lifting this year.>t. /fit/
>I need to blast tren for my 1.5 hour PPL routine w/maintenance macro intakeYou can achieve a 95th percentile physique with diet and a good routine alone. Roids really only matter at the absolute peak of bodybuilding. >but what about strengthHigh tier strongmen have freak genetics, no amount of roids will turn you into Bjorn.
>>82873469strongmen take roids no such thing as freak genetics
>>82873513>no such thing as... geneticsYeah you're right bro genes play no role whatsoever in athletic performance, that's why all my favorite NFL players are Indian
>>82873513Yeah bro he roided his way to being 6'8 and having bones denser than steel.
>>82873561all strongmen take roids you really think they look like that from eating too much lol
>>82873561>no broaaaa strongmen just have good genetics none of them do roids!!!!! stop it!!!fucking nigger half brain subhuman
>>82873651>If I do enough clen then one day I too can deadlift 1000 despite being 5'8>this absolutely isn't dysmorphia and delusional thinking
>>82873665>with good genetics you can lift a car on one arm without royds!!!>yah they 500lb so what?!?!?!nigger
>>82873694>fundamentally misunderstanding the argumentYou don't need roids you need to read a fucking book
>>82873300My friend i met at the gym is 25 and a big roider but he looks 45 and his bald with a massive beard. He has to take test replacement for life because he has destroyed his body.
>>82873710>no you just need to have FREAK genetics not roids lul>proven wrong- uh- no-n-NO YOU don't understand the argument you're the moron not me!!!!
>>82873742>Still this fucking wrong
>>82873752>baitinggot it
>>82873644>>82873651They obviously roid but you're being a dipshit and acting like genetics don't matter when it comes to literally how your muscles are built as you train. Even without getting into the obvious like height or muscle insertions that's a fucking retard argument.
>>82873783>it's bait that others notice my lack of reading comprehension