Have you ever thought about turning the computer off? Its not fun after a bit. And its so sad when you are in circles that have people afflicted with such illnesses that for your own sanity you should not engage or even just know about them. You see places that formerly brought you joy get pulled into a weird direction by new people, some stop existing because interest fades, others amplify their users problems until everybody is afflicted. Be it games, websites, or just small sections of one or a chatroom, all of these just end up being so sad after a while. I think its about time for me to turn my computer off and re-think stuff but i cannot sleep so i will engage for a bit longer. Unsurprisingly i will probably be back tomorrow as i don't know what else i can do with my life. I don't know. What brought me here? What brought you here? Everybody would have been better off never turning this black rectangle on.
>>82874772I just turn on some music instead and pace and think on things instead. You can still use your computer whilst avoiding the algorithmic traps that suck you into steal your attention. As far as sleeping, I just think of really depressing thoughts and that knocks me out.>What brought you here?It's one of the few places I can find people who have lives similar to my own. People also sometimes humor me by listening to my ideas or talking with me too.>Everybody would have been better off never turning this black rectangle on.I disagree. It's like with booze, porn or other addictive things. You need to be the master of your life and often a lot of those things can't even get their claws in if your life doesn't have a massive hole that you use them to fill. Fill your life with what is better for you, what you enjoy without sucking up the cesspit's foul slop.
>>82874813>You can still use your computer whilst avoiding the algorithmic traps that suck you into steal your attentionI wasn't talking about just slop sites but all online interaction with people in general.>I just think of really depressing thoughts and that knocks me out.Its the opposite for me right now sadly. Dunno what has gotten into me but i think the internet just pushed my feelings about it over the edge.>It's one of the few places I can find people who have lives similar to my own. People also sometimes humor me by listening to my ideas or talking with me too.How does this happen? Did you never experienced what i described in the OP with things ending badly every time? I feel like the human mind was not made to be crammed with thousands of others into the same space. Its not sustainable and all the connections it made fall apart. Especially on these less mainstream and still neurotic places. Maybe its just me however.>I disagree. It's like with booze, porn or other addictive things.If you exclusively use it for some sort of work or just to play music like you would with a radio then yes, But when you add these billions of people into the equation its a lot more complicated than just an addictive substance. When have you seen people be so polarized. How come so many are getting dumber and lazier despite being able to look up and learn everything etc. I wonder what future generations will think about this pilot experiment.Could just be me going through it again, but damn just reading some of the things on here is not helping.
also yeah sorry the op is a little vague
>>82875113>I wasn't talking about just slop sites but all online interaction with people in general.I see, I see. I'unno, I still do have the odd, nice interaction. Mainly when I'm just passing through and chatting. Don't you feel better when you air out your grievances like this, anon? Sadly entropy does eventually come in and decay that which is good. A big problem I think comes from improper gatekeeping and the kinds of people who get into moderation positions for sites. Those who crave power the most are those who least deserve to have it, but it routinely seems to be the case online that they're the ones getting it.>Its the opposite for me right now sadly. Dunno what has gotten into me but i think the internet just pushed my feelings about it over the edge.Too anxious, maybe? Hopefully all of this will help out some.>How does this happen? Did you never experienced what i described in the OP with things ending badly every time?No, they do. Usually they end poorly if I get to know them off-site and for a long period of time. I move on eventually, but I meant that most of my more brief interactions on the board tend to be nice. I do filter a lot of shitty bait, porn and gender war threads, which helps.>I feel like the human mind was not made to be crammed with thousands of others into the same space. Its not sustainable and all the connections it made fall apart. Especially on these less mainstream and still neurotic places. Maybe its just me however.I think you're onto something there, but it's not everyone. Humans vary so much in their capabilities. I think it's inevitable that we'll adapt to the internet, genetically and culturally, with each generation. You're in the tumultuous early steps of that, right here with me :). The era of brainrot is here for now.I guess it helps that I don't socialize too much on my computer, outside of this board and a forum elsewhere. No job for me though, sadly.cont
>>82875113As far as people getting dumber and lazier, we have been getting genetically dumber for generations at this point. As medicine improved a shift in fertility happened. In the past the ones who were above replacement fertility were often those who were well off, whilst the poorest were always below replacement fertility. This meant dirty, dumb people had less kids whilst smarter people who took care of themselves and were cleanly and worked hard had big families. Currently intelligence is negatively correlated with fertility, to something like -0.2. This means that intelligent people, generally speaking, have less kids whilst the dumbest people have the most kids. You through in social services, welfare, etc. and then these people are enabled more and more to breed. Impulsive, daft people are one of the fertile demographics. Can't speak too much on the polarization, but it is certainly a potential problem. A problem I think mostly goes with people who are terminally online, those people who have all of their grounding with likeminded people. To them it's their whole world.
I was off the internet for a few years, I recently started coming back and started browsing 4chan again. /r9k/ feels like old /b/, 2005-2011ish.I still go outside and don't spend hours on here but it brings a sort of nostalgic comfort to me.Plus I am a bit lonely these days and tired of traveling for work, so it's nice talking to strangers online about nerd things we both enjoy.
>>82875235>Don't you feel better when you air out your grievances like this, anon?I think it would be better if i could go to sleep normally instead of anxiously staying up and ponder about the magic rectangle>A big problem I think comes from improper gatekeepingYeah absolutely. Sadly even tightly knit communities fall apart with a similar effect sooner or later.>Hopefully all of this will help out some.At the very least it passes some time and its not like i have anything else to do. Thanks>No, they do. Usually they end poorly if I get to know them off-siteDoesn't it leave a sour taste in your mouth? I know you said you get over it but potentially everyone on here including people you have fun with for a bit are the same types of people in the end.You just can't tell>but I meant that most of my more brief interactions on the board tend to be niceIt it even worth here or are people just posing or desperate? I have been here for years now and it just gets worse and worse. My main boards are all dead sifting through this one feels like a waste of time now too. Overall on the entire site there are two or three people/posters that i like and i see them less and less.>we'll adapt to the internet, genetically and culturally, with each generationi don't know. Everything is so slow and stagnant now. the 'nothing happens' meme didn't come out of nowhere. The very first chatroom users and generation Alpha are just as susceptible to these issues. Just that there are more of them now than before. There is no adapting. Its like thinking that with enough time humans will be able to develop immunity to gunshots if you try enough.. no, everybody will be wounded or dead at the end.>A problem I think mostly goes with people who are terminally online, those people who have all of their grounding with likeminded people.This stuff is leaking into the real world via average people now.
>>82875595Dunno. I think this was enough pondering to tire my already sleep deprived brain out. Thanks again and good night. Bad time to start such a thread haha.
>>82875603Have a good night, OP. I'll respond after I finish writing some other stuff. Sleep well and hopefully you'll feel better.
>>82875595Yeah, that'd be nice too. But to get over that, you'd have to solve your anxiety first.>Yeah absolutely. Sadly even tightly knit communities fall apart with a similar effect sooner or later.Yup, although from their ashes new communities will spring up. Each community that falls leaves room for a new one to take its place. In a way, this is a game of memetic selection. I'm certain that as we get further and further into the age of the internet that communities will get more stable and maybe even less shitty. I can be a bit too hopeful sometimes though. I think the trend of the last 20 years or so is largely due to the massive influx of people to the internet and the rise of smart phones, in using analogies from deep time this would be a major selection event or even a mass extinction event(the Internet used to have so many forums and communities in the early 00s and late 90s.). Diversity goes down and then eventually comes back up later in new forms.>At the very least it passes some time and its not like i have anything else to do. ThanksHappy to help :)>Doesn't it leave a sour taste in your mouth?Yeah, it leaves me feeling awful. Especially if it was a girl I was getting to know and they just ghost me like they almost always do. My coping mechanism is to largely just detach myself from more social things whenever it happens, I spend more time on my own and distract myself with new fantasy worlds in my head or ideas or research. When something like that happens for you, do you just jump back into social circles? Maybe that might be making things worse, although I'm an odd person so what I do is not necessarily applicable to others.The site has been becoming more and more dead. I think imageboards are waning as a place for people to talk and interact on, mostly because so many shitty people flood them these days. The hack just seemed to speed up the process of decline.cont
>>82875595>i don't know. Everything is so slow and stagnant now. the 'nothing happens' meme didn't come out of nowhere. The very first chatroom users and generation Alpha are just as susceptible to these issues.I disagree. Look at what earlier 4chan did compared to 4chan now. Lots of raids, tons of internet cultural hits and now it's a dying site mostly full of coomers and porn posting. The early internet users too were usually more technologically savvy and many of them were actually quite influential in the world. The internet is dealing with the influx of a lower quality for its average users and that alone is a major change. It is something happening and people are going to react to it(and already are in some circles). As for developing an immunity to gunshots, nature is never so straightforward with evolution unless that's the only way to deal with it. You'd expect people first to behaviorally be less prone to being in the situations where they'd get shot and to adapt to be less vulnerable to dying from gunshot wounds. Total gunshot immunity could happen if we selectively bred people for it though :). I'd be happy to start the undertaking for such a project if you somehow come under control of all of humanity.>This stuff is leaking into the real world via average people now.My few interactions with the more normal people of the world seem to indicate that they view those people who are super polarized as just crazy and they ignore them. My interactions with them are few and fair between though, so I could be very wrong. It just feels like most of the really extreme stuff I hear about online isn't getting to them. Not unless something more mainstream starts talking about it all.
>>82874772I went to my childhood house, felt nothing I went to the playground of my old elementary school, though they demolished it, felt nothing I go on walks in nature and feel nothing, it's literally just to exercise my parents' dog at this point The happiest time in my life was when I was working part time in college and had some friend-classmates and friend-coworkers and I had an inkling of hope for the future that maybe a girl might like me back Now everything is just flattened out in all directions I'm still trapped in my parent's house, I couldn't afford to leave even if I wanted to, nobody is hiring, life is hell
>>82874772I don't need to everything I find fun and interesting is on the computer. Repairong electronics most information is online. Programming uses computer. Games uses computer. Drawing is the only thing I can do without a computer even then I use a drawing tablet so might as well use a computer too. Don't have what I need to sew so it is what it is. But I have more than enough to.do that doesn't involve other people.
