You have to touch grass and meet women or civilization will collapse
>>82887294the bar is apparently on the ground so i guess you know what that means
>>82887294> meet women I've tried, they don't want meguess civilization will be collapsing, my b guys
>>82887294You got it backwards. Civilization must collapse before tax slaves are allowed to be men again and only afterwards will the birthrate recover.
Where can I meet a young virgin woman who is not fat, has no tattoos, and wants to be a good mother and obedient homemaker, and faithful wife? The blame clearly is on women. Men aren't the ones taking birth control. The fact women are means they are actively planning their lives around being fat whores.
>>82887294Elon is literally pushing the Indian migration on the side of the Indians lol he doesn't give a fuck about the population
The Earth didn't implode when the human population was 6 billion. It didn't implode when it was 5 billion. It didn't implode when it was 2.5 billion. It didn't implode when it was 500 million.To think it will magically cease existence when it dips even under 7 billion is just consumerist deathcope.
>>82887342You're completely ignoring race. This is extremely important and can't be overlooked.
>>82887294High standards they set,Men blamed for staying at bay,Exhaustion lingers.A haiku.
>>82887294>be a sexually repressed civilization for 600 years or whatever>sexual liberation happens>"sex is good! sex is healthy!">people have lots of sex all through the 70's-00's, create new diseases because people are having so much sex>sex is no longer exciting, sex is normal, sex is expected, sex is e v e r y w h e r eIt's just that we as a civilization has reached a saturation point the same way we did with food. Like a average bag of doritos contains more spices than an average man in the mediveal age consumed in a year. You cant turn your phone on without having half nude women in your face.I'm not some tradwife chud cunt who wants women in ankle long dresses and all that gay shit, but what did they expect would happen once sex became this normalized?And we're probably ignoring one glaring point and that is that people had alot of sex because there were nothing else to fucking do.
>>82887294These kikes never actually get to the reason why. It's just "men are giving up and society will collapse because of them." Why, though? Why are men giving up? That's the question they refuse to answer. Thus, normies remain oblivious.
>>82887425promiscuity isn't anything new. people were having sex all the time in ancient rome, etc
>>82887294women have made their opinion of me very clear.
I have a few kids and it's great being a father but modern living arrangements make life absolutely miserable. You and your wife are not supposed to be working 40 hours each and doing literally everything on your own. You need a community of family members around you to survive
I'll do it if they pay me, at least ten million dollars.
>>82887294If your civilisation sucks so much that men are GIVING UP ON SEXIt simply deserves to crumble
>>82887294>be musk>claim to be worried about birth rates>be billionaire who could buy up every single dating app and rework them to prioritize matching people together instead of stringing people along to try to get them to payHe doesn't actually give a shit, if he did he'd do something. He has the power to fix the problem, but chooses not to.
>>82887425People eat tons of food though
they never gave me chance or even considered me a candidate for a relationship. No interest was reciprocated. I am not going to waste my time trying to peddle worthless goods if they aren't wanted or desired. When I was younger, I thought things would simply happen by chance if I went about life normally, got a good job in stem, met the right girl. Instead, nothing ever happened. No girls ever expressed interest. At most, friend zone in my limited experience. I knew it wasn't an appearance thing when I compared myself to peers, but I tried getting more in shape anyway. Made no difference. I watched most people I know get married or start families. Made me feel even more worthless by comparison. I lost all friends out of avoidance and shame, and they had no time of their own anyways. Now it just undermines my self-worth completely and has started undermining even my career. The impostor syndrome seeps in. My career brings no sense of fulfillment. Simply save for a future I don't care to see. Though I desire a family, I imagine that is just my biology nagging me. I don't want to be a blight on someone else regardless, and I know that if I let anyone close now they will realize how terrible I actually am. They already don't even consider me an option now, so that's indicative enough that something is wrong with me. I'll take long-term group consensus validating my inner critic. Naive hope that things would change was replaced with stagnation and a sense of regret. I get harassed at any wedding now, due to never having a date. People don't believe me when I've never had a relationship. If I'm honest, they don't believe me or they blame me. They then often say it's my fault for not throwing myself against the wall over and over. my desires won't change reality. I cannot force someone to give me a chance, just like I cannot force a company to hire me. People will just blame me as the reason for demographic collapse, as I already am society's punching bag.
>>82887294I tried, got friendzonedmaybe I'll try again, but idk if I can even find another woman who's a virgin and has never been in a relationship, wants to be platonic friends at first, chat for literally hours every single day, then slowly form a more-than-platonic relationship out of that (friends to lovers is best trope) over the course of several month and see how our relationship develops until we decide we want to spend the rest of our lifes together and make our relationship official.the first ended in the more than platonic phase when I had started to develop feelings for her after talking every day for about a year but she didn't. (she still claims to be asexual, is a virgin and has never been in a relationship, even though we've chatted about her erotic dreams -about Stalin of all people, IDK- before so I'm pretty sure she isn't actually asexual, just autistic AF.)But she isn't attracted to me, so thats that and I either have to find someone who is like me where attraction is mostly superficial and comes from emotional connection, or more likely just die alone.
>>82887294i wanna touch women instead
>>82887647you could go to vietnam or indonesia or some shit and become a passport bro.If you walk around there some girls are gonna throw themselfes at you. Even some who are virgins and want marriage and a family.Sure its still with the implication that they like you for your status and weath and passport and unlikely your actual internal qualities, but chances are good you can get a wife who will actually birth your biological children and probably not divorce you if you aren't a total asshole for cultural and social stability reasons.And if you're particularly lucky even true feelings might develop over time.Option B) would be paid surrogacy.You said you have a good job.Pay some woman 100K and she'll have your kid and sign away her rights as a mother leaving you the sole guardian.Then you probably need another 100K in savings to hire a nanny and/or cut back on work during the infant years till the kid can go to school and you back to working.But you could be a great single dad.Anyways, if you want a family and raise your own biological offspring and have the (purely financial) resources to pull it off, you have options. Not the best, but options.
>>828873574 billion AfricansImagine the smell
>>82887357https://www.unz.com/isteve/2022-worlds-most-important-graph/
>>82887294why would i bring children to this world?
>>82887294This nigga Elon is just as much of an incel as the rest of us. The only difference is that he can afford to pay for the ILLUSION of love.
>>82887294What he really means is a danger to his portfolio. civilization is a game already won and the other players are wanting out
>>82887447>t. stupid nigger that wasn't there during ancient Rome
you can have my ass babies OP, I think I'm about to make one right now
>>82887822mentioning your kids is free (You)'s in incel threads plus if you ever need backup in an argument online you can just tell your kids to come to the thread and call the other guy a retarded nigger
>>82887294Elon is such a two-faced cunt, kek. He's done a shit load of things that makes shit worse for the average Western man but he's oh-so concerned now.
>>82888173You sound entitled, you should just reproduce already
>>82888407No. You get no more slaves.
If you aren't a 10/10 the dating game is just a humiliation ritual
>>82887294>implying these women don't have sexThe fuck Chad's more then enough.Women just need to stop using contraception with men they like to fuck, birthrate problems solved.OP premise is entirely ridiculous (women's logic). Incels who give women ick should chase women who already have Chad's in their beds. Ehhh...why?
>>82887557>He doesn't actually give a shit, if he did he'd do something.He have terrible lacunas of knowledge, you can't blame him much when normies by default are fed blue pills.
>>82887775Nta but lived in indonesia and was unironically too ugly and poor even for the women there.>just have 200k laying aroundKek
>>82887294No, women either lower their expectations or humanity collapsed we won't move
>>82889257No women should just become pregnant from Chad's they are fucking.Lowering expectations and still using contraception would achieve same nothing.
>>82887294You think we should listen to Elon Musk?
>>82889326I believe in Elon Musk
>>82887822Mr. Goldenstein needs more shekels.
>>82887425Its not that. Its the spectator effect. Been a think since19th century.basically when the world all becomes this owned and artificial you stop feeling like your actions have any effect on the world. At the same time youre held to even higher standards and compared to past people who had more freedom and power than you, but youre meant to succeed them somehow when you already dont feel like you can do anything. This was already a thing in 1800s, by now its 1000x worse.
>>82889407You just described exactly how I feel
>>82887294This view is utterly retarded. Men play video games and watch porn because there's nothing better to do. If there were women who actually wanted to have sex with average men, nobody would stay indoors. But that's not something this retarded orange man dick sucking African grifter could ever comprehend
>>82887294>Giving up on sex>SexCleverly disguised headline.They're giving up on flings and one night stands, because that's basically a guaranteed rape charge or blackmail trap these days.They're STILL looking for a meaningful relationship, it's just that that's not possible any more, so a lot of men are using distractions to avoid suicide.Banning distractions won't change the fact that meaningful relationships aren't possible. It'll just turn millions of suicidal men against you.
>>82887425>>be a sexually repressed civilization for 600 years or whateverPuritanism hasn't existed for that long.
Is it worth saving this version of civilization? Empty, hollow sex isn't all that interesting and having a loving family is too expensive. It's a failed experiment.
>>82887294>You have to touch grass and meet women or civilization will collapseNot possible; since foids went Chad-only after 2012.Foids have to come to me and be DTF, or I am not doing shit.
