Can life be worth living if you don't have any skills or talents? I want a passion to base my life around and a few cool hobbies, but I never end up doing anything.
Talents and skills aren't something you're born with. You have to develop them with practice.
no, and you'll be stuck here posting with rotting corpses like the rest of us
>>82887859>You aren't born with talentYou're born with certain aptitudes and abilities. Sure, you can grow a skillset over time, but your ability to grow depends on factors outside of your control.
>>82887843What maes life worth living is pretty subjective, but im from the team that thinks that not workING towards "constructing" something (it doesnt need to be a material thing) leads to a less meaningful life.But it may be worth living,yes, and I can guess that people who just mindlessly consume massive amounts of vidya and anime feels the same, despite the inevitable existential pain.Well, gather your courage and go do something. Even if its as simple as taking photos around your city. You can do it!Also, learn new stuff. Learning is noice ^^ ;3
>>82888339It's so difficult to find anything to do, though. Whenever I try to do something new, it just blows up on me and reminds me that I'm a loser. Whenever I try and learn something, I tend to lose focus, even if I'm reading about something interesting. I just feel like I'm trapped with the mind and body of a failure.
>>82887859That's not true, there are various physical and mental differences that genetically predispose you to certain fields. In the Olympics trainers will often scout young talent with the correct genetic makeup and train them to be Olympic athletes rather than look after the fact and pick the kids who worked the hardest.Hard work in itself is also largely genetic (a big 5 personality trait called conscienciousness, which is found to be around 50% heritable). Even if you try to take solace in the other 50%, a lot of times that comes from environmental factors based on the environment you grew up in from your childhood rather than some conscious decision to embrace hard work
>>82887843You don't need to have a talent or even be too skilled to be passionate about something. Whatever hobby you like, is a cool hobby to (You) which is all that really matters for a hobby.
>>82887843last season in wow i felt kinda strong and i was really happy doing PVP, but ever since the new season started I've been shit. I know that if I were good at something in life I would be happy, but I've spent so many years on this game and have always been mediocre. Nothing I do can change the fact that i'm a shitter. And it's one of the biggest reasons why I'm so insecure
>>82889103How do you guys get all these interests and hobbies anyway? Does it say something bad about me that I've never found something that to passionate about working towards?
>>82887843>and a few cool hobbies, but I never end up doing anything.How the fuck do you retards not have hobbies. I have ADHD and I pick a new vocatiom like every month. last week I solo taught myself how to solo publish a literature review paper and I was also teaching myself piano. Like nigga if you dont have friends tlike me the sky is the limit
>>82889256I've never had a friend, but I've never picked up a hobby. I seldom feel like picking up something new, and when I do, I just get frustrated before quitting.
>>82889334try lazier hobbies like writing a blog or something.
>>82889753I'd like to get into writing in general, but like with everything else, I don't have the discipline needed to get good. It doesn't matter how easy something is, I just can't seem to create any momentum.
>>82889773If you're so useless then set your standards accordingly dude, surely you can muster up 15min of writing for 30 days.
>>82889806I probably can't, but I should try. I'm gonna kill myself at this rate.
>>82889848The only "problem" you have is your lack of self belief, retard.
>>82889899That's just another variation of "just be confident." Why is it so difficult to believe that some people are just destined to be losers?
>>82887843you sound like someone who had a bunch of hyperfixations growing up (one after the next obviously, not consecutive) and are now at a point where you're trying to find how to make a new one or just find a normal interest.when i was growing up, i always had *something* i had to know everything about. all i could think about is that one thing, doing that one thing, buying that one thing, working on that one thing, and after a month or so it was on to the next. it was fine growing up, but that doesn't work as an adult.if i'm all wrong, which is likely, let's try something different: why are you here? what attracts you? is it the aesthetic, the vibes, etc? if so, look at what other people are doing on here. we have drawing threads, almost everyone is a gamer on 4chan, many are creative in other ways like 3d design and modeling or model building. there's tons of shit to be had on here and there are boards for every possible hobby.very few people have no interests or aptitudes whatsoever. very, very few indeed. you may be one, but it's so unlikely i feel confident in saying you're probably not. you will find something if you take the time to look for it.
>>82889913No it's not retard. You have a laptop, you are writing words on the screen right now. You can just open up a word document and write if you so please.You can be a loser if you want, sure. But you're crying about it on forums so you clearly are unhappy with your station on life.
>>82889917>Bunch of hyperfixationsI don't think I can say I had many hyperfixations, but I was obsessive about some things growing up.>Why am I here?Mostly to vent but also for humor..
>>82890014>but I was obsessive about some things growing up.what were those? start there. it doesn't matter what it was, start with it. the point here isn't to necessarily stay in those lanes and just re-obsess, it's to give yourself a starting place for where to go. think about what you liked or disliked, get into places discussing these things, and you'll find other cool shit without even trying that hard. that's how everyone finds things they like and dislike.>Mostly to vent but also for humori can immediately add writing, comedy, and just general discussion to the list of things you have at least basic acumen with. if you actively enjoy and seek out places to engage with humor, that shows you have more nuts and bolts rattling around in your head than you give yourself credit for. even cheap humor requires knowledge and timing.
My talent is physical stuff, i.e. sports, athletics, martial arts, etc., and I always hated myself for it. I spent my whole life avoiding those activities and trying to be more intellectual. I could excel in basketball, rugby, running, long and high jump, etc., and I love every second while doing it, but I refuse to give in because I feel like a stupid meathead and I'm too weird to talk to other mostly extroverted people.
>>82890048I've spent most of my time thinking about video game franchises, but that's not a real interest or hobby. Other than games, there isn't too much I've hyperfixated on. All I am is just a consumer of entertainment products.>Humor requires knowledge and timingI just said I like humor, not that I'm funny.
>>82887843>Can life be worth living if you don't have any skills or talents?No, that is why everyone on 4chan should die
>>82890078>I've spent most of my time thinking about video game franchises, but that's not a real interest or hobby.then how did it become the most profitable form of media if games aren't a real interest? that's the 1920s mindset of "motion pictures aren't a real interest", it is absolutely valid. it just can't be the only one. i hate to break it to you, but 95% of normgroid scumfuck culture revolves around what media you consume. as someone who is at least reasonably adept at using the internet, this is no obstacle to you. find a few more things to be interested in, and you're good. games also dovetail very well with finding other interests - what games do you like to play? what do you do in them? is it something you could reasonably do in real life? the answer is yes, more often than not.
>>82890103I haven't played games as frequently recently. I mostly play jrpgs primarly the megami tensai games, fire emblem and Pokemon. I don't know if I can do pokemon or demon summoning in real life.
>>82890153not necessarily, no. but ask yourself what it is you like about those games. is it the collection and growth of new and interesting critters? that's a perfect inroad to plant keeping, something i enjoy quite a bit. is it the strategic aspect of the combat? then pick up chess along with, which despite being a game, is generally not viewed in the same light as video games and has a community that's literally thousands of years old. or maybe you're drawn to the aesthetics and music of those games, that's a whole separate media rabbit hole to explore. how about the lore and history that inspired these games? both are rooted in japanese folklore, pokemon infamously borrowed from some of the horniest of folk tales and stories for the designs of some of their characters and scrapped stories. but again, there's a new potential thing to learn about, japanese culture beyond just the games and maybe some shows.like i said: just put some thought into it. any interest can feasibly be branched into many more, if you take the time to consider what you like and dislike.
>>82890194I'm already really interested in mythology and Japanese culture. I just can't turn these interests into a hobby; in fact, it's difficult even to read a book about these things I like. I guess I just don't experience the type of freewill others do.
>>82890235you're describing attention deficit right now
>>82890306Maybe, but most people with adhd tend to have a few things going for them, huh?
I thought like you, then I realized that all these years I was depressed. When I started taking SSRIs suddenly things became interesting.
>>82890358>SSRIsWhen did those start working for you? I took some for a month a few years ago and was disappointed. I don't think I'm depressed at all.
>>82890366Almost immediately... though people say it takes weeks or months to work. Taking it for half a year is the bare minimum. Also, you should be seeing a psychiatrist, as there are hundreds of substances and only some will work for your particular case.I really like bupropion, if you also have attention deficits I am sure you can get it (its used to treat adhd, depression and addictions).
>>82887843Realistically what's stopping you from going to guitar center or Sweetwater or amazon, ordering a squire strat and spending an hour every other day watching Absolutely Understand Guitar on YouTube?
>>82890405Other than that I don't have an interest in learning guitar I wouldn't learn how to do it because I'd be too shy to practice and not have the discipline required to practice.
>>82890463You aren't satisfied with life and have no goals, goals don't just appear and they don't just achieve themselves. You say you're too shy but everyone has to star from zero at some point. You didn't learn to read in an instant you had to be taught and it likely took ages going from>The cat in the hat comes back.To>In here is a tragedy art thou player or audience? Be as it may, the end doth remain: all go on only toward death
>>82890491guitar is a bad pick for someone like OP tbdesu, speaking as someone like him. It's really hard and it only becomes rewarding like 200 hours in.
>>82890509Be that as it may, he will still not find anything to satisfy himself unless he learns how to set goals for himself and come to terms with the fact that rarely is someone an instant prodigy - that failure isn't shameful it's just a gentle sign you need to add a milestone goal to reach whatever ultimate goal he has. I simply picked guitar because it's what I picked to fill that role and because music can be very cathartic in general.
