>talking to cute incel, says he's into femdom>all of his fantasies revolve around me just holding him or riding himlike u just want to be the passive one 24/7 this isnt domination lol
>>82889081what do you want to do to him then?
>>82889081>female sub: starfish>female domme: starfish with user feedbackyawn
>>82889081I find these bdsm sub faggots more repulsive as actual faggots and about as repulsive as cucks. Pathetic and disgusting manchildren that refuse to grow up and just want a second mom to wipe their asses for them, without having to put any work into being a partner themselves. They're most likely currently leaching on their parents and looking to jump ship to another host once their parents die or finally kick them out. The homeless have more dignity.
i like gentle femdom. anything mean or painful and im immediately no longer interested. lots of woman mistakenly assume that femdom must include some sort of fucked up wanna-be dom persona thats just frankly both annoying and disgusting. or they assume that the guy wants to be hurt.
>>82889081Lazy, passive fake "dommes" are a nightmare to deal with. They feel more like insecure BPD brats than mature women. If I ever get into a domme/sub relationship again I'm going to be very clear that I'm expecting the domme to be mature with how she handles communication and that she should be active, not passive. Touch me, handle me, talk to me, use me. Don't neglect me or ignore me. Oh and I expect exclusivity too. I don't share. This is the bare minimum for me to even consider getting into that kind of relationship again, otherwise it just fucking sucks.
>>82889081Females should stop requiring men to be dominant and active. I hate your gender roles so much. Power dynamics in general are trash. Females are so horrible and picky and it's not fair
>>82889081>u just want to be the passive one 24/7 this isnt dominationNo it's actually exactly what "domination" is, and in particular all women are like this but much worse. You sound like you have it really easy still.
>>82889591Yeah, I get this is a bait thread, but it makes me feel worse about my sexual frustration by reminding me that femdom is basically just as unrealistic as a giantess or transformation fetish.
>>82889081The non-dom is back...>Why won't the sub take the initiative and just start doing things to me?KYS
>>82889088>genuine sub...pretty rareThere's no way it's uncommon. It feels like 10% of guys fantasize about it in some form.
>>82889509>me to even consider getting into that kind of relationship againDamn, anon. Personally I wouldn't have touched that with a hazmat suit. Glad you at least figured it out the hard way.>>82889629Depends on what you want. You can probably find something close.
>>82889638Probably just means he's a lifestyle sub. Plenty of guys say that want this stuff but only want it in the bedroom.
>>82889640>Depends on what you want. You can probably find something close.Why do you believe this? How?
>>82889081He's not into femdom, he's into "gentle" femdom, much more common
>>82889678Is there really that much of a distinction? I want a woman to be nice to me, but in a way that she dominates and claims me.
>>82889676Because I got mine ;)
>>82889081I'm a people pleaser and I enjoy receiving claws and bites. Does that make me subSex should be a push and pull dynamic not this gay dom sub static.
>>82889701It's difficult to believe anyone could get a dominant gf. How did you find her?
>>82889509Women quite literally have to be trained on how to be dominant. They suck at it when they try to do it on their own.
>>82889081We do exist. I wear a collar for my wife. I wear shirts with a collar so I can wear my collar underneath. I was wearing that collar last night when we had dinner at my parent's house. She only attaches the leash to it when we're at home though. A pity.
Most people do not know what they want.Also femdom is a huge thing that goes from holding a guy's leash and riding him to whipping him until he almost passes out. One must communicate properly with their partner/playmate about their expectations.
>>82889732Unironically /r9k/ of all places
>>82889749>>82889770At least there is some hope in the world.
>>82889081Femdom only attracts me in art or some picture in my head, but in practice I think would feel weird to me since I've never tried it before. If you asked me what I want from woman sexually I would spend 30 minutes overthinking, with only thing to say being: be forgiving for my lack of experience, and I'll try to be honest with my body and what I subconsiously desire. What I consiously desire is a woman who knows I'm a bit vulnerable and would enjoy giving me a chance to grow and see that women are not so mysterious.
>>82889081i think the issue here is that it's treated as this monolithic thing, where realistically it can mean a lot of different situations. it can mean the guy is tied up in a basement all day or some shit like that, or it can mean something more tame. it probably comes back mostly to a lack of communication, which makes sense given the demographics that would be engaging in this behavior.
If your answer to what you like in femdom does not include selflessly pleasuring a woman and making her cum with your mouth then you're not really into femdom
>>82889983I wish we could come up with more ways to pleasure dominant women instead of focusing on pegging and torture.
>>82890096Most women would appreciate having a cute guy smile and moan and look them in the eyes while eating them out or fingering them
>>82890172I hope a girl lets me do this to her one day, even though I'm not worthy.
>>82889081Women are so pathetic. A dominant man would tell his sub what he likes, and then condition them to like it too. You're a fake domme, who will just give up, as soon as your sub's initial stated preferences don't 100% align with yours. I doubt you even told him what you're into; he probably would have tried to do it for you. Loser.
>>82890253>one daythe real fun begins when she cums from it harder than from penetration or toys and gets addicted to your mouth and makes you do it EVERY day~
>>82889081>Generalised conclusions based on a sample size of 1However, there is usually a distinction between two types of subs1. 'Subs' - people who are not actually submissive, it's more that they see it as just another porn category that makes them horny. It's what most self-proclaimed submissives usually are. You will recognise them by the fact most of their submissive fantasies are almost 100% sexual and they don't really care beyond that.2. Subs - actual people who feel submissive and it isn't just in the bedroom. In fact, for most it's more about pleasing their partner and being under their control in general, not just getting topped in bed. Doing stuff like yk cooking for their partner, giving them a massage after long day at work etc. just in general doing things to make their partner feel enjoyment. In this they shouldn't be passive, but take initiative within the frames set by the relationship. Of course, this doesn't mean being a doormat, either. Actual relationship decision and such should be made on equal terms, those 24/7 TPE shit or whatever is not sustainable nor healthy.Of course, this also means there are two kinds of dommes. The 'dommes' who aren't really dommes but are just doing it exploitatively either for money or just their own pleasure. And dommes who genuinely do like being in control but also understand what it means to take on the responsibility of accepting someone's submission and also want what's best for both them and their (sub) partner.
Why is it so confusing to people that submissive males exist. Isn't it common sense? Doesn't someone want to prove it?
>>82889081>Femdom thread>Makima pictureWhen will people realise Makima is a terrible role-model for a domme.
>>82889081>like u just want to be the passive one 24/7 this isnt domination lolyou finally got itthe entirety of late millenial/genz sexuality involves being completely passive and enjoying dopamine flooding your system with no work at alltrans/femboy/femdom/trap it's all the same "let me sit here and then cum" because that's all they understand
>>82891439But that isn't really being a sub, then. That's just being a starfish.Being a sub means being proactive in pleasing your domme. Just because they take the lead doesn't mean you can just sit and respond to their actions like play-dough. I remember when I was in a dynamic (admittedly long-distance so it limited my options) one of my biggest worries was that my domme was just doing something for my sake instead of it being something she herself enjoyed. And I spent a lot of time supporting her emotionally and doing whatever I could to make her happier
>>8288963810% by definition is uncommon
>>82891520They probably get that impression because certain Internet communities have overrepresented populations of subs. It's same with troons. If you judged by 4chan or Discord, you'd think they make up like 20% of population. When it's like <1%
I just want to be told what to do because otherwise I will fuck up.
>>82889081What's your idea of femdom?I could easily be your puppy boy toy. But I recommend you know some BJJ and put me in a chokehold first to break my mind. Otherwise I might be too hesitant and shy to do exactly what you want. Or if you're not as experienced, there might be other ways to crush my man's pride.
>>82889081and most women's idea of femdom is cucking a guy and getting paid to do it.
>>82889081Honestly in my view the ideal dominant partner isn't someone who is a domme or is heavily into bdsm or whatever. Just someone who is more-less normal but also naturally assertive and doesn't mind taking the lead. Like a caring gf who will tease you for wanting to lick her feet or something, not some femdom that demands people call her Mistress or whatever.
>>82889081you make the same thread everyday. why is it so surprising that men are into being dommed when 99.9% of women are pillow princesses that just want to sit there and be a silent fuck doll. if you have this critique for men then you should have the same critique for all women
>>82889081Not true for me, my fantasies are about pampering her, worshiping her, making her laugh, relieving her stress etc.
>>82889081This true. It is ONLY hot as a fantasy and i would never in a million years admit what i goon to to a real woman.
>>82889081I'm a genuine sub and have been for as long as I can remember. I just have no idea where to meet dominant women. I have to convince the girls I date to do dominant things to me. They also feel guilty since I always end up pleasuring them more than they pleasure me lol.
>>82889081Correct. People who identify as subs or want to be dominated are generally shitty people. This includes women too. The only difference is that women are expected to be kind of shitty because most people get disappointed by every woman in their lives as there are fewer women with actual spine than there are men.
>>82889081>u just want to be the passive onewhat's wrong with thatBeing passive is the default for women and nobody cares, but some guy having a fetish for being passive is a problem? lmao
>>82891435>Actually just wants to be broken but people are too stupid to accept the words straight out of her mouthShe's an incredibly realistic character in that regard.
>>82889081>guys don't actually like femdom Anonymous
It's amazing that such simple bait got so many bites. yall should be ashamed of yourselves for falling for it.
>>82889081I have the opposite issue and think no women like femdomWhenever I suggest posting my nudes they're always like>oki just do whatever you're comfortable withAnd it turns me off because it's so wishy-washy, I lied like and met 2 who actually were forwardOne time I was told to shave and take nudes but I said I couldn't cuz I was eating so they yelled at me and said they didn't give a shit, so then I went and shaved and took pics instantly I'm a lazy boy who just needs some pushing to be a loyal subTldr women are too soft
>>82892654Btw it itched for a month after I shavedHow do you make it so your pubes aren't itchy ;_;
>>82889509Men need to be honest and just say they want a mother replacement. Maybe then they can see there's nobody interested and finally improve.
>>82892767Except that a domme shouldn't be a mother replacement. Mommy kink is cringe in general, but even beyond that, the sub shouldn't be leeching off their domme or expecting them to cook, clean or whatever for them while they are just passive. They should provide emotional support, but that should happen in any kind of healthy relationship anyway.
>incel just wants love, thread is about bashing said lovehow dare i just want an open forward, presenting w*man to help lead me intimately, fuck my confused loser chudcel
>>82892767I don't want a mother replacement though? I want a woman who enjoys being worshiped and using me for her pleasure.