to start this off I live in the middle eastI've felt cripplingly lonely all my life. as a kid, I never really got along with anyone because of my autist behaviors. I taught myself English at an early age, and neglected learning the Arabic language, which lead to me having extremely broken Arabic and largely ostracised me from all my same age peers. the only interactions I have had with other people were just them using me as a freak act to show their friends or talk to once to get a feel for the 'experience' of what talking to a foreigner would be like.I failed the GATs, a test you need to pass to get into good universities, because all the ones I took were in arabic. my parents refused to let me do the English ones despite my begging. after graduating high-school, searching for a university turned out to be hell. I've been a NEET for over 2 years because, wow, surprise, I failed at that too. I can't find a job because all of them require experience, and the ones that don't require fluent Arabic proficiency. I feel like all my life I've been set up for failure. I don't know any basic math, chemistry, or physics because those were all taught to me in a language I barely understand. I feel so bitter towards everything and everyone. I still don't have any friends, and the people I meet online leave after I tell them I'm living in an arab country. I can't even quell my loneliness with a boyfriend because I've never met a man outside of my family. Everything sucks. Fuck my life.
arab women can be cute
>>82891310Don't your parents interact with you in arabic? As far as I'm aware Arabs are taught English in their schools but it's mostly Arabic, there's no way you'd have made it to highschool if you didn't know any Arabic, and if you did know enough you could just expand on it, the same way you taught yourself English. It's not as hard to learn a second language when young
>>82892226I'm not completely illiterate, I'm capable of reading (very shittily, worse than a 2nd graders skill level) and understanding what people are saying but I can't speak it myself almost at all. High-school involved lots of memorization and zero understanding. I didn't grasp any of the concepts they were teaching, I just memorised the wording and put it down as it was.My mom talks to me in Arabic but my father communicates in English. I don't talk to my mom much for this reason. It's hard holding a simple conversation, usually, the farthest we get is "hello, how are you, I'm good", it just sucks.
>>82891310Lmfao I relate a little bit, like I'm not borderline illiterate in my native tongue either but I 100% speak English better due to spending my life attached to my computer. I fuck of the order of words and go "uh..." a lot when speaking IRL.
Anon you have to prefice for western ignoramuses that the arabic you speak at home is a dialect as removed from official arabic as italian is from latinAnyway arabic is beautful, why don't you learn it? I understand hating a language- I hated german because my mom emigrated there- but as an adult, you have to move past that and be practical.Also you are an adult, just retake the test in english, your parents can't stop you? Then go to an european uni and find friends and bf
>>82892324I'm glad someone can relate. The Internet genuinely wrecked me. I wish I could go back in time and pry myself away from the screen
>>82892361>I wish I could go back in time and pry myself away from the screenHonestly I don't, I hate my cuntree and everyone in here is an asshole. The best friends I've made have been online.
>>82891310what a weird predicament to be inlearning the language probably wouldn't do much for you since you're also completely disconnected from your own culture due to heavy internet usage. seeing as you're arab casual dating is probably taboo too so even if you found someone it likely wouldn't work out, i doubt your arab parents would let you move out alone either. congrats, you are a true locationcel, your life is on hell-mode. you should move to the west and marry me to remedy this.
Also wtf how can you not read profficiently, it's just 30 signs and you should be able to infer the vowels based on your experience?
>>82892355I can't retake the test because there's a pause on the amount of retakes you can do within a certain timeframe, as a teen, my parents made me use up all my chances, and if I remember right, I'll have to wait about 4 years? So unfortunately I'd have to wait 2 more years to be able to do anything substantial with thatArabic is a beautiful language, but in my current state of mind I dislike everything about it so much that I can't bring myself to get good. Maybe in the future when I'm away from here and not so mad at everything
funny how quickly >deport all browns who are destroying my european countrychanges into>please emigrate here so I can marry you and make mixed babies <3
>>82892388That sounds like a completely ridiculous situation! Wtf is wrong with your parents?! Is there anything you could do? Do you have job centers in your country? You need to become independent of them
>>82892379Ok, fly me out>>82892380I'm retarded anon I don't know what you want me to say. It takes me around 5 minutes to read a small paragraph.
>>82892411>I'm retarded anon I don't know what you want me to say. It takes me around 5 minutes to read a small paragraph.I studied arabic (fusha) for a year before dropping out of uni due to depression and I actually loved reading and learning what each root means... I wish I could somehow transfer my good will to your brain! That's all you need to learn a language- good will and time
>>82892408I'm not too sure about job centers around here, even then, I'm sure you'd need to be able to hold a conversation in Arabic for interviews. Honestly I've kind of accepted my situation, this'll be my life until my parents decide to marry me off or they die and I'm out on the streets
>>82892449Nah you deserve betterAgain, dunno about your country but in Germany they finance language lessons in job centers.
>>82892443Thank you for your kind words anon, it sounds like it was a beautiful experience for you
>>82892411actually i just realised that you'd have to learn the local language if you were to move to my country and be my halal wife and slavic languages don't have much in common with english or arabic so you'd be back at square 1 basicallyRip, never began for us. maybe start dropping your discord when american hours roll around and get yourself a burger bf
>>82892473Free language lessons sound like a dream, even if they did offer that service they'd likely make you pay for it out of pocket here lol
>>82892478My interest is always piqued when someone mentions arabic because I'd love to befriend someone who'd teach it to me despite my dropping outYes, learning a language is wonderful, however university is very stressful and demanding in a creative and... forthcoming way? Like, you need to take care of your interests, which is difficult for someone with depression. Add covid and I became a neet, got into a hole I still cannot get out of. However, you reminded me that at least I live in a civilized country (Poland) and maybe I'll find a way to live...>>82892500slavs are famously desperate>>82892504Doesn't hurt to ask! When you say you're an Arab it doesn't say much for most people, as your situation can range from living in a mudhut in Syria to being an heiress in the emirates.
>>82892500Yeah that would also be awful. Thank you for the offer anon lmao
>>82892530I hope the future treats you well anon, it sucks how all it takes is one bad break for peoples whole lives to go to crap. Hopefully you can pick yourself back up again and pursue the things that bring you joy>your situation can range from living in a mudhut in Syria to being an heiress in the emirates.Funny enough both those stereotypes are far off. My living situation is nowhere near heiress level, I'm living well at the moment, but my parents often tell me they won't be leaving anything for me when they die... Never been to Syria, but I'd just kms if I had to live in a mudhut
>>82892411>>82891310They probably have some kind of government or private charity program for illiterate adults where you live.
>>82892293I'm very skeptical about this.There's no way you'd spend so much time around a language you have knowledge in even at a second grader level and still not be able to grasp it. Immersion is the key factor here, even with internet exposure you still spent hours in an arabic for years from such a young age, along with your mother conversing in arabic. What do you think are the differences between you and other kids? Even being glued to their ipads they are still capable of language. You went through the beginning stages of learning a language at school, the alphabet and all the basics, if what >>82892355 said is true it's more the reason to question why you couldn't learn it despite attending school for it for years Using myself as an example, I learnt languages from school or media even though people around me didn't speak them, now fluency varies but children's brains are very malleable, just be around a language for a few hours a week and you'll do okay at it in a few years. Try learning languages when you're older and it's incredibly different, the concept of language comes more naturally to a still developing brain.
>>82892626you still spent hours in an arabic school*
>>82892530being horny is our evolutionary survival startegy. slavs didn't genocide the local populace when they invaded europe, we just had sexsexsex with whatever culture we stumbled upon until they also decided they wanted to be slavx and became part of the problem. my ancestors smile at me whenever i hornypost
>>82892624I'm sure those programs exist but I'm not particularly motivated. I don't really want to learn it right now.>>82892626Well, this is what happens when you're unsocialized. I turned my head at the language as a kid because I thought knowing English would benefit me more as it aligned with my interests at the time. I tend to not engage with things that don't interest me. There weren't many games, decent art tutorials or communities that operated in arabic during the early Internet (or at least, none that my mushy brained 8 year old self found interesting enough to engage with). I didn't make much of an effort in high-school either and noone really wanted to talk to me because I was the weird English kid. I'm also neurodivergent so that may have something to do with me developing differently than what the usual would be.
>>82892626Imagine it's like an Italian who can't speak or read latin, but can speak Italian (not often written down) and speak and write english. It's quite believable. Of course, Europe moved past that in the middle ages, but arabic countries have not.
>>82892603Have you tried therapy and meds? You're clearly depressed, hence the apathy and lack of interest, and thinking about dying. Your life needs a goal to work towards.
>>82892800I went to therapy and just got a few diagnosis as a teen but my mom got scared and pulled me out and I haven't gone since. My mom didn't want me on meds so I never got to them lol maybe going again and trying them out will change something
>>82892698Had you said that you were schooled abroad during your early childhood it would have made all the sense, being undersocialized has little to do with it. Loners don't grow up to be illiterate. Arabs are also reputable for being ESLs and English is a common language there too from what I gather, at least amongst the younger generations. You say the reason might be because you're disinterested but going through the trouble of memorizing batches of letters and words you don't know the meaning of surely must be harder than just getting a grasp on the language.What makes this more unbelievable, is how many people get stuck at a low proficiency level when it comes to languages that are taught secondarily in public schools, maybe because the classes are too few or unproductive, or as you are, uninterested, but how do they fare? Yeah, they mostly fail the class or are extremely mediocre at it, now imagine if they had to apply that language they are so bad at to the rest of their academic life? The only explanation is that you're gravely underplaying your Arabic skills, it's a thing that people can be more fluent at a non native language >>82892791Possible, I wouldn't expect them to make it past middle school (at most) however, or they'd gradually learn it through extended exposure
>>82891310Is there an American or British embassy near you? I don't know much about the Middle East. but maybe there might be work for English speakers there?
>>82893260Forgot to add, language is highly contextual, someone who speaks Italian will not have the lexicon necessary to understand maths or chemistry in Italian if he never touched them before.You were basically learning at a similar pace with your peers, aside from the terms and definitions (which you would have been gradually integrating into your vocabulary), though not sure if the numbers and equations are in latin
