I'm an older, ugly biologically failed man. I want simple things, I want to work and earn my wages to continue paying for rent at my cheap-ass apartment so I can play video games and enjoy my hobbies.I've given up on the idea of marriage or any sort of partner. That life isn't meant for me and I'm actually completely fine with this.However, being an ugly old man punishes me even more at the work place.Unfortunately, I work with zoomer women. I'm forced to interact with them sometimes for this job. I can tell they're repulsed by my existence, like my existence offends them, they constantly get the "ick". Let me be clear, I never flirt with them or even make light conversation. I want nothing to do with them. However, one really hates me for no reason. (I barely talk to her) she recently reported me for being "awkward and weird" I got written up as a result.I want to be very CLEAR. I'm not angry or upset, I just want a fucking moment to relax, man. why can't men like me just go to work, mind their own business and just earn our checks and go home?
>>82891783>"awkward and weird"And they allowed that as a reason? Fuck man, I have to sit with the design team in my office and the women that work there I'm pretty sure fucking hate me viscerally. I've never talked to them and never will, but sometimes they'll look at me with the most scorn. I've basically figured out when they come in and avoid those days. It's insane how much they hate ugly men, like their existence is somehow an insult to them. And yet they live complaining about how men expect them to be good looking.
>>82891783>"awkward and weird" I got written up as a result.Some managers are retarded and accept shit like that. Not much you can do but endure and look for another job just to be safe.
>>82891864yeah, I'm not angry or upset but mostly just annoyed for my own financial security. I get it, biologically speaking, women don't want to be around undesirable beta monkeys. It's a pure instinctual response. The only reason I exist is my beta ugly father provided for a desperate woman looking for a free meal ticket.It's kinda fucked we allowed a system to incentivize women to procreate with undesirable men resulting in people like me.I'm not saying I wish I were deleted. NOT AT ALL and I'm not depressed.yes, the manager put it under "harassment" which is completely bullshit, I might try to fight or challenge it.I've considered trying to looksmax too. Looking good gets you an easier life for sure
>>82891783I had the opposite problem. I worked as a bartender, and restaurants always love to hire zoomer girls. I would just be friendly to everyone (like you're supposed to) and zoomer girls would always want to talk to me, probably because I'd have tons of cash on hand from being paid in cash, have access to drugs, amongst other reasons. Older blown out administrative whales would always get upset at me, spread rumors that I'm a pervert, and say I was a bad person for being interested in girls much younger than me. This is all while being openly gay and in a long term relationship with a black guy who posts here. Obviously no one cared when I tried to get with zoomer guys, which I was actually doing. One time I literally had a girl 6 years younger ask if I wanted to hook up for sex infront of another co worker. That caused me alot of fallout despite me turning it down.You can't win
>>82891952you must be good looking. I'm 6'3" which apparently creeps them out since I look like the lurch, I workout and am pretty strong, lifting is a hobby of mine but I've been constantly told I look "chopped"gay men tend to look better than straights too since I think they take care of their facial apperance more, im thinking of looksmaxxing asking the gays for advice
>>82891901I'm surprised how calm you are about it. This is the kind of shit that would stress the fuck out of me, and there would be nothing I could do since women ultimately have a ton of soft power. >It's kinda fucked we allowed a system to incentivize women to procreate with undesirable men resulting in people like me.This system is slowly withering away now, so we'll be one of the few ugly, undesirable men. I envy the next generation>I've considered trying to looksmax too. Looking good gets you an easier life for sureAgreed. A lot of incels focus on the dating aspect, but it really encroaches everything. Even the small interaction at the store. For me, I want to get some facial surgery and shoe lifts>>82891783 so that I don't feel out of place anymore.
>>82891973>shoe liftsI know this sounds like I'm bullshitting but being too tall is ugly and scary to women too. I'm 6'3" and strong but skinny since my limbs are all extra stretched. I've been called "The lurch" many times before. I think the only height women want is like 6' tall in reality.yeah, most men aren't procreating, it's a new age I guess, a hollow victory for the next generation
>>82891783you should Gandalf max or some shit, a good beard and long hair hides the ugly.
>>82892027i would but im bald lol
>>82892015Being short is a different curse, but I understand where you're coming from. I've had women get scared of me because I give off incel vibes despite being short and frail. With shoe lifts I can pretend to be average at least, which is nice if you want other employees to take you seriously.
>>82891970I'm 5'11 with a skinny fat dad bod and no upper body strength. I literally just think it was because living with a robot fag i met on /soc/, being somewhat financially responsible, and getting paid in cash left me with lots of physical money on my person alot of the time that was disposable, even though in hindsight working so hard for extra play money wasn't worth it at all and is my biggest life regret. I have the whole blonde with long hair and blue eyes thing going, so maybe I'm attractive to women but I have no clue. Also ironically I got most of my self care advice from straight men. The game has flipped on its head. Gays are more Spartan because we all want to fuck and don't overly obsess over looking perfect. I've met tons of straight men who go so far to be well dressed and groomed, and also look good as well, to try and have straight sex in a "competitive market".My advice would be to be clean shaven, have a watch (dosnt have to be expensive, just get a citizen or something), and lead girls on by making overly invested statements about how your "in love" with them, or think they might be "the one" even when you don't believe it.
>>82892055yeah, idk man, I just feel like the standards for men has just gone way up in the past 30 years>>82892067hmm, maybe it's the way you carry yourself too. you might have a lot of rizz with women as a gay man, I tend to notice gay men just know how to talk to women to make them feel at easebut yeah, Im bald and have a big beard, maybe that spooks them too, maybe I should go clean shaven, Ill get the watch, thatll help
>>82891880What job? Assuming op doesn't have the body or skill to work a blue collar job, what other job could he get that doesn't come with a pay cut? He's unfortunately fucked since women have basically flooded the job market, and where they haven't taken up space isn't worth the pay.
>>82891783 (OP)that's how normalfags are. another guy could have groped them and I bet they wouldn't have reported him
>>82891952Nice fictional story bud
>>82892096For context I'm 31, so I vaguely understand what "chopped" and "rizz" mean. But I think while maybe entertaining on social media or something, these concepts are not rooted in philosophical truth. I guess I'm honest when I talk to them and have confidence, but I talk about things like Team Fortess 2 when asked about my hobbies, talk about never driving or owning a car, and other thing that you'd expect from someone who's a high school dropout and a /pol/ user back in the Ron Paul days. I guess having to work a social job to be able to feed myself and move out of somewhere where I was constantly woken up by roaches crawling over my face changed me? I had to live my truth in order to not die as someone who worked every abusive food and beverage job there was to make some money to have a comfortable life. I don't want to pretend I'm wise when I'm not.
But why didn't you quit?
