high functioning autists are considered disabled but when I look at normies, when I analyze their behavior I can't help but feel like they're disabled in a way that I'm not. is this my delusion or what?
>>82894835Yeah, you're just wrong. I'm diagnosed autistic too but functional enough to hold a job. By all metrics, autism substantially worsens your quality of life. Unemployment rates are massive and live expectancy is much shorter for autism. Even when Asperger's was a separate diagnosis, the stats looked awful.
>>82894835na bro i feel the same about normies, its like im a zoo visitor observing lower iq species
Normies are the carriers of the mass-delusion virus. If enough of the other nearby normies believe something is true, they will too in spite of all the evidence in front of them.The nude emperor is fully clothed in their eyes, so to speak. While we see actual reality, free of forced delusions and the will of the hivemind.
You guys are the tard sorry. You don't have the big balls to take what you want. You sit in your head with analysis paralysis and won't achieve or experience shit. You can't emphasize, so you can't ever connect to another human being.
>>82894835>high functioning autists are considered disabledyes because most have an IQ of 70
>>82894855we need to build our own autistic neuro-state
>>82894835>is this my delusion or what?Yes. I literally have to pretend I know how to interact with people if I want to be seen as a normie
>>82894835I'm the odd one out, man>low-inhib>high-T>high functioning autistic>wagieI used to work kitchens, was so good at my job and got along with everyone that sometimes folks would ask to be on the same shift as meI love that high energy eventhough I know at the end of the day I need to take like a long, hard reset to get myself back up to speedI feel like I'm one of the few "bridge" folks so to speak, straddling the line between normiehood and autism
>>82894855>>82894877>>82894927I didn't say that we are superior to normies. I said that normies lack something that autists have.
>>82894955Well they're not, normies are perfectly capable of thinking like autists do. We're the ones who lack their vibes-based telepathy communication, sensory resilience and so on. They can think mechanically and have deep interests etc.
>>82894936i relate to you and i heavily contribute that to having primarily hyperactive adhd.the hyperactive ADHD side has been a blessing so far
>>82894835Can I be your pet Mr. Autist?
>>82895033why would you specifically want to be an autist's pet
>>82895003hell yeah man high five!but if you're like me then you know how lonely it can getwhen you work with wagies, you'll realize you're working with like, "poor" folksnot in a derogatory way but ehhhh you can't really talk about niche stuff with them
>>82895033depends. do you have a dick
>>82895047yeah i 100% understand you.that feeling when you have a social circle but you feel completely alienated from everyone around you. i only truly feel comfortable around other neurodivergent retards. hence why i hang around in r9k
>>82894835>I can't help but feel like they're disabled in a way that I'm notit's truenormies are complete slaves to peer pressurethey can't understand any social interaction without viewing it in relation to an implied hierarchy
>>82895046Idk brother>>82895052...yes :D
>>82894835you are disabled as it pertains to your ability to gain power and status and money and flourishing in this societybecause this society is disgned for, and rewards neurotypicality, low inhibition, and also sociopathy/dark triadautists are shy and not nt and cant socialize, so they get fucked in this NT society
>>82895118strangely enough ive seen autists thrive before when they get accepted by their peers. theres a manga about self reported stories of neurodivergents and one is by a parent of an autistic kid who grew up to be popular and succesful in school due to receiving proper parenting
>>82895071lmao sameand even then, for me personally, I can't really relate to all these incel/blackpill bsso, even among retards, i'm too much of a normie
>>82895154To be fair I also have my own share of dating struggles. My interpretation of the blackpill is just neurotypicals refusing to date autists and to be fair, I notice that does happen in reality.The thing is I believe we have a very magnetic personality for other autistic women. we are still functionally autistic but dont come with the emotional dryness of the average sperg and can function in society somewhat, which the average female sperg also can.im still a very imperfect traumatized sperg but at least i can come off as charming to the type of woman im typically attracted to. sadly theyre rare to find irl
>>82894835It's not just you. I feel like I'm observing a pack of wild animals. They think you're a serial killer. In the end autists and normgroids detest each other.
>>82895314>sadly theyre rare to find irlYOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN, BROTHER!...I've had chicks interested in me but you're right, we're built for autistic chicks
>>8289487480-90% of normies see it too, they just have enough sense to keep their mouth shut or run interference to protect their own self interest. The only difference is that this process is more automatic for some than others. The terminally autistic never get the memo.
>>82895118>rewards neurotypicality, low inhibition, and also sociopathy/dark triadSociopathy is by definition neurodivergent. Society most definitely does not reward the normie cattle.>autists are shyNo they aren't. They're goddamn social wrecking balls like ChrisChan. They plow through social norms without noticing how embarrassing they're being.
>>82894835Do you people just not understand that words are supposed to convey meaning? Autism by definition is a disability. If you're not disabled or functionally retarded, you LITERALLY cannot have autism.
>>82895498autism is just different brain wiring and ADHD is lack of certain neurotransmitters
>>82895498>disabilityper western standards, sureyou guys really think autism is this new thing that JUST came about in the 60s?Shit's been around forever, man and every society in history had their own way of handling ithell, shamans and mystics back then were literal schizophrenics
>>82895541The diagnosis, definition, examination, observation, and experience of autism has never had any possible thing to do with "wiring" because there are no fucking wires in your body. You are a stupid kid with no clue what you're talking about. Autism was a form of retardation which is now bundled with just really poor social skills.
>>82895575Per eastern standards it's even worse. A disability, is in fact, going to have a negative impact on your ability. It was only western marxists who started doing this "weakness is a strength" bullshit. Schizomaxxers made the best of their situation, they didn't see schizomaxxing as a whole identity or species or type of benefit.
>>82894835They are disabled, but the world is set up to help them with their disabilities. Not so for NDs. Same reason being high IQ makes life harder to live; it just wasn't built for you
>>82894835Different perspectives is all.
>>82895598whatever man, just keep using autism as an excuse and stay in your room and bedrot all day every day for the rest of your lifeI mean, what have you got to lose anyway? It's just your one fucking life, right? Ain't no big deal
>>82895703Two minutes ago you were talking about society handling it, now you are referring to self determination. Based chatgpt post, but autists should still go outside and still have sex, I'm just saying they are disabled from functioning normally. In the severe cases yes they are a burden on society, and in the mild cases yes they are still retarded. That does not mean they shouldn't try their best.
>>82895737>go outside and still have sexcome up to a man with no legs and say "just get up and run a triathlon". it will be the same thing, you dumb ass.
>>82895764plenty of legcucked guys do triathlons you dumb trash.https://triathlon.org/paratriathlon
>>82894835As a diagnosed high functioning Autist myself, no, unless we're both deluded.I get along much better with autistic people, because they make more sense to me.>>82894855>By all metrics, autism substantially worsens your quality of life.It does, but only because the rest of the world is built for neurotypical people and their deficiencies.>>82895376>80-90% of normies see it too, they just have enough sense to keep their mouth shut or run interference to protect their own self interest. The only difference is that this process is more automatic for some than others. The terminally autistic never get the memo.Yes, but ask yourself what involves more cognitive dissonance. Lying? Or just telling people what you think like a trustworthy and honest human being would? Sometimes I think that the reason we live in such a low trust society is because autists are unsuccessful so frequently.
>>82895737You think they're not related?On how society handles you and how you handle society?This is life, anonWe're not supposed to make sense of it, we're supposed to navigate itWhat normies see as a straight line, we don't. We go over, under, around, the line BUT we still have to walk the line
>>82895803Autists lie all the time. They claim that it's harder for autistic men than for autistic women.
>>82895813>Autists lie all the time. They claim that it's harder for autistic men than for autistic women.That's not lying or dishonest, because there's no intent to decieve. You'd have to either be omnicient or mute to literally only ever tell the truth.
>>82895895The problem is that autists are incapable of having any empathy. They might believe they are "honest" without ever telling the truth
>>82895456>They're goddamn social wrecking balls like ChrisChanchris chad is unique in that he's a low inhib autist. most autists are not like him, most are much more shy and high inhib compared to nt's. theres statistics about this too ur actually coping
Estrogen made me more normie, i had literal schizo delusions and auditory hallucinations and couldnt fall asleep without phenibut and now all of that is gone and all thats left is me frequenting shitty boards like this
>>82895911>The problem is that autists are incapable of having any empathy. They might believe they are "honest" without ever telling the truthIn any case, they don't "lie" like you initially claimed. And I prefer somebody to believe they are telling the truth and not hide it to manipulate me over somebody who pretends they have magical powers that let them telepathically feel what other people are feeling and would choose death before being upfront with me.Autists are way more often compassionate and sympathetic than normies in my experience, though yes, we do lack empathy. I really don't care about empathy, though. I think it's narcissistic delusion. It really says a lot about how selfish you are when the only time you can be fucked to care about other people is when you can PRETEND to put YOURSELF in their shoes and vicariously feel what they do.
>>82894835It's lonely seeing the world without rhetoric when no one else does. I hate being right about everything. They even shame you for it for not getting caught up in the pretense.
>>82896069Yeah that's the point. Autists are evil and dishonest. Nobody has claimed there is anything good that comes from autism.
>>82895803>telling people what you think like a trustworthy and honest human being wouldHonesty doesn't equate to trustworthiness. If you're honest about how you don't really give a shit about a person you've established that you can't be trusted with collaboration. I need to be able to trust that you'll show up, even if my gameplan is only 90% perfect by your assessment. I would rather gamble that someone is telling me the truth about their commitment than to have someone I know isn't on board with the plan.>>82895911Empathy isn't real. Everything is filtered through our own experiences, you don't experience empathy for the unrelatable. The autistic experience is too different from everyone else's. Normies can't empathize with spergs, spergs can't empathize with normies.You're on the right track though. There's this notion among the autistic that deceiving someone to benefit themselves is wrong, and therefore not doing that makes you good. Nah, it just makes you neutral. What would be good is if you deceived people in a way that benefits them.
>>82896225>Empathy isn't real. To be fair, autism is not even real. People who pretend to be "different" are just attention whores.
>>82895911>The problem is that autists are incapable of having any empathyim autistic and vegannow the ball is in your side of the court!here is some aisloppa for you! hope you try to explain to me how i cant be empathetic as a vegan!
>>82896277Do you respect the experience and perspective of other humans who have a normal diet?
>>82894955When you call someone disabled that means you think they're inferior in some way retard. The word means inoperative
>>82896069People are up front with the autistic all the time. You get a lot of point blank rejection, sometimes harshly. For the most part nobody tries to jerk around or propagandize the autistic. Spergs still mad about it. >more often compassionate and sympatheticThis is because empathy doesn't exist, only sympathy. The "Aut" in autism comes from the prefix "Auto", or self. The autistic are notably focused on themselves more than the average person, so they will feel deeper sympathy to those who are alike. Your elevated sympathy just exposes how deeply you consider yourself rather than others.
>>82894835>/Aspie LARP general #99999999999/
>>82896203>Yeah that's the point. Autists are evil and dishonest. Nobody has claimed there is anything good that comes from autism.How did you get that from what I said? Autists are way more honest.>>82896225>Honesty doesn't equate to trustworthiness. Wild claim.>If you're honest about how you don't really give a shit about a person you've established that you can't be trusted with collaboration.How do you figure? >I need to be able to trust that you'll show up, even if my gameplan is only 90% perfect by your assessment.That's not what I meant by trustworthy. If an autist tells you they don't want to collaborate with you, then that's that. You walk away. You don't get cheated. If a normie tells you they care(and they don't) there's no gurentee they will or wont colaborate with you like there is with Autistic people. Their word means nothing.>I would rather gamble that someone is telling me the truth about their commitment than to have someone I know isn't on board with the plan. I would rather not gamble at all and just go with the autist who actually says they want to collaborate.
>>82896374>Autists are way more honest.They are usually dishonest and can't be trusted.
>>82896273Autism most certainly is real, it just doesn't apply to 80-90% of the people who claim to have it. The real reason people avoid the autistic is because there are quirks that line up with socio/psychopathy. Stuff like the eye contact and hyperfixation. Deep down autistics only give a shit about themselves and their niche interests. Small talk about the weather or weekend plans is agonizing for them. They'd be sociopathic and harmful if anyone gave them the power to do so.
>>82896422Autism is not real. There is no way to distinguish it from attention whoring.
>>82896374Not a wild claim, I gave a crystal clear example in the follow up. If you tell me that you probably aren't gonna show up, I can't trust that you'll show up. You're not worthy of my trust in this matter. Autistics love to use the word "Maybe" when it comes to commitments, and that trust wears very thin when "maybe" is "No" far more often than yes. In your head you told the truth. You hadn't decided if you were going to commit or not, so it was a maybe. In practice you signalled flakiness at a rate far greater than had I gambled on the good word of a stranger.>Their word means nothingTheir "Yes" is on average worth more than your maybe. Generally speaking most of you folks would rather be doing your own thing anyway. It's only logical that wider Neurotypical society would adapt to exclude you.Alternatively, if you're so truthful and honest then why haven't you told that girl that you think she's pretty and you'd like to take her on a date?>>82896393They know what would happen if they told the truth about their desires.
>>82896490Half of them are non-verbal. More than half of the remaining half have no social media presence. The well known and powerful ones are smart enough to never talk about it.
>>82896312>People are up front with the autistic all the time.When it suits them, sure.>You get a lot of point blank rejection, sometimes harshly.Yes, but without reasons given. It often comes with lying by omission. >For the most part nobody tries to jerk around or propagandize the autistic.This has not been my experience. For starters people try to propagandize everyone, no matter if they're autistic or not. But also people 100% jerk around autistic people all the time.>This is because empathy doesn't exist, only sympathyYet normies keep citing empathy and saying how much it hurts them that other people are hurt.>The "Aut" in autism comes from the prefix "Auto", or self. The etymology of words often has little to do with the actual meaning, even if you were right.>The autistic are notably focused on themselves more than the average person, so they will feel deeper sympathy to those who are alike.>Your elevated sympathy just exposes how deeply you consider yourself rather than others.And yet autist people are not the one always talking about magically feeling other people's feelings. The fact is that normies are less individualized. They lack as clear a concept of "others" as autists do because they are more capable of guessing other people's feelings and merging with them. Mirror neurons, that are mpre often disorganized in autistic people, make you feel what you believe other people do. As such, the neurotypical concern with others is far more personal and selfish, since they actually feel themselves when they interact with others. Neurotypicals work more like a hivemind.
>>82896543>Not a wild claim, I gave a crystal clear example in the follow up. If you tell me that you probably aren't gonna show up, I can't trust that you'll show up. Well yeah, but if you read what I typed, you'd know I wasn't talking about whether or not they want to work for you when I was talking about their trustworthiness. Yes. If somebody says they don't want to work for you, you can bet they don't.>Autistics love to use the word "Maybe" when it comes to commitments, and that trust wears very thin when "maybe" is "No" far more often than yes.Okay? But that's literally what maybe means. They didn't lie to you.>In your head you told the truth. You hadn't decided if you were going to commit or not, so it was a maybe.Yes. This. Maybe you have a chance after all. >In practice you signalled flakiness at a rate far greater than had I gambled on the good word of a stranger. Alright? But I'm telling you I probably won't go but might. That's not flaking you. I never said I'd do it in the first place.>Their "Yes" is on average worth more than your maybeNo. A neurotypical "yes" means nothing. They might or might not show up. Often they don't. But what does this have to do with trustworthyness?>Generally speaking most of you folks would rather be doing your own thing anyway.Yeah? What does this have to do with trustworthyness and honesty though?>It's only logical that wider Neurotypical society would adapt to exclude you. Logical, but not ideal. Yes doesn't mean yes. No doesn't mean no. Normies are always arguing online over words since nobody evef means what they say. There's entire movements built on the premise that we can telepathically experience other people's experiences. It's, from a distance, very pathetic.
Neurodivergents are slaves to the typicals. Always been. Don't get fooled.
>>82896591Lot of works, most of them not refutation. Lot of "Nuh uh" and "That's not my experience">As such, the neurotypical concern with others is far more personal and selfish>Neurotypicals work more like a hivemindYes, all self centered individualists, but working as a lockstep hive mind. Come on now>>82896678Their yes is more likely to hit than your maybe, and even then I only have to get burned once. I'm going to take the higher EV play rather than gamble on your maybes.Notice you didn't respond to the important line. Why haven't you been honest to her about your feelings?
>>82895376>80-90% of normies see it tooWay too generous. Do you think 10% of the population drives society?At least 60% of the United States believes in a religion and that's the biggest mass delusion in history.Also whether they actually believe in the hivemind's opinion or not is completely irrelevant, they are slaves to it and will call something purple when the thing is clearly brown if enough of their ilk are already saying it. They exist to be manipulated by peer pressure on a continental scale.They hold back society as hard as they can because they revel in the comfort of their little social groups and will kill themselves if denied that comfort. They are the reason RTO is happening. They are why politics favors everyone but the actual voters. They indulge in feelings and comfort over logic and reality.
>>82896883People go to church for the social benefits. They don't pray, and they sure as hell don't read their Bible. You act like they're all insane zealots. When it stops benefitting them they leave, hence the considerable decline in attendance over the last couple decades.>muh peer pressureA very good thing if you have very good peers. Sorry you got the wrong information out of your DARE presentation.It all boils down to non-participation by the autistic. They don't want to participate in normie society, then get butthurt when they're excluded from the lucrative parts of it.
>>82896810>Lot of works, most of them not refutation. Lot of "Nuh uh" and "That's not my experience" To be fair, you never provided anything more than anecdotes. Why should I need more than the quality of evidence provided to refute it?>Yes, all self centered individualists, but working as a lockstep hive mind. Come on now Hey, it's why there's this fetishization with empathy in the first place. At least my concern for other people actually treats as others. >Their yes is more likely to hit than your maybe,Not really. It depends on your how good you look.>even then I only have to get burned once.You only have to get burned once anyway. With an autistic person you can just tell them you need a "yes or no" because you're making plans.>I'm going to take the higher EV play rather than gamble on your maybes. Again, what does this have to do with the trustworthiness of autistic people, though? You can trust they aren't playing you. I can safely bet you can't think of one time an autistic person burned you. You not knowing what "maybe" means or not asking for a "yes" or "no" doesn't change that. >Notice you didn't respond to the important line. Why haven't you been honest to her about your feelings?I responded twice to the line about autistic people not saying "yes" enough for your preferences actually. See from >>82896678:>That's not flaking you. I never said I'd do it in the first place. >But what does this have to do with trustworthyness? >>Generally speaking most of you folks would rather be doing your own thing anyway. >Yeah? What does this have to do with trustworthyness and honesty though? I'm not sure why you seem to think I'm trying to say that autistic people are more willing to go out and hang out at the smelly fast food joint with Imagine Dragons playing as loud as possible or wherever. They're not.
