Cows are conscious and have distinct personalities who have capabilities of suffering anon. Do you still wanna eat them?
>>82895577yeah i do but fuck pigs bacon tastes like ass
>>82895577mate it's kind of obvious all life is conscious or sentient
>>82895577nah i wanna fuck em now
>>82895577All are enslaved. All are devoured. The great evil is not what happens to our unthinking livestock, but what we ourselves endure at the hands of our fellows.
>>82895577psychology is just liberal ideology with a scientific veneer. everything that's a so-called mental disorder is just something that is incompatible with liberal ideology or liberal society
>>82895590your tastebuds are gay
>>82895577Cow delicious. Nom nom.
>>82895577I mean, a cow would eat me, if wurst came to wurst.
>>82895826unless your mom is washing her ass it tastes about the same to me
saar cows are gods no eat the cows bloody bitch basterd saar.
>>82895577yes!cows are sentient beings that suffer, love, cry, hunger, covet, fear, delight, bore and feel all the other emotions that humans feeljust like you and me. thats why people should go vegan and not hurt them
>>82895577yeah of course. food is still food.
>>82895885we all have feelings and want things little calfnow get in the burger machine little buddy
>>82895885vegans hurt plants. any argument anthropomorphizing animals applies the same to plant life.
>>82895577I do, but first I'm going to eat 24oz of raw swordfish
>>82895905Aye. I have the decency to kill the cow. You savages are eating those apples alive.
>>82895905anon, plants dont have feelings. cmon now. nobody seriously thinks in science that plants can feel. to suffer you need very complex brain and nerve ganglia, which plants do not have>>82895903>>82895835>>82895590does sensory pleasure make ANYTHING morally right?what about evil pedophiles who hurt and kill children for pleasure like epstein? if you have power and enjoy it, is it moral?it would seem not, anon
>>82895577Yes. They are delicious.
>>82896029Fuck hogs they're aggressive/violent.
>>82895577I dont eat cows because I dont think they have sentience, I eat them because they taste good when cooked. If they feel pain and have fear and all that other human shit, then tough titty. I dont fuckin care. Should have evolved better then.
>>82896029>to suffer you need very complex brain and nerve gangliaCounterexample: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(23)00262-3
>>82895577Why should things like this affect anyone when people used to manually kill farm animals themselves with no problem? Nothing's going to change.
>>82896029>to suffer you need very complex brain and nerve ganglia, which plants do not haveYou're making a lot of assumptions that "people in science" would not be making. Plants certainly don't suffer as much as cows, but there's not enough understanding of consciousness to say that they don't suffer at all.
>>82896029i think eating fish is okwhen you look into the eyes of a cow or dog or pig for example, you see a soul looking back through them, similar to when you look at a human. even chickens you can see something behind the eyes, even though they have pretty small brains and are quite unintelligentwhen you look at a fish it's more like looking into a camera, at least for me. They're dead inside.I also eat meat and think it's ok to eat animals. Humans have always eaten meat, other animals eat meat. It's not the same as rape because rape and cannibalism because those happen to other humans and civilisation would fall apart if everyone raped and ate each other all the time. If animals have a soul and consciousness the same as humans, then god has it figured out. Factory farming is nightmarish tho
>>82895577>waaaaah animals have emotionsYou are niggercattle. You vote and act on emotion.
>>82896029>what about evil pedophiles who hurt and kill children for pleasure like epstein? if you have power and enjoy it, is it moral?the thing is, you shouldn't commit crimes against your own species with which you share a developmental level. On the other hand, evolution made us above cows and such so there is nothing wrong with eating them.
>>82896071>https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(23)00262-3>Sounds emitted by plants under stress are airborne and informativeoh for sure. plants emit noises when they are subject to stimuli. the problem is this is not reasonable evidence to suggest it can suffermy gameboy emits sounds when subjected to stimulia dead body also emits sounds when subjected to stimulijust because a living being emits sounds when subjected to stimuli does NOT entail it can suffer. by this standard, my keyboard is also conscious!
>>82895577they're not aware that they'll be eaten. they are free to roam around the fields and sleep all day. i don't think they have it bad.
>>82896029>plants dont have feelingsthey do. nobody was talking about brains or ganglia. if you blow a cows head off they have no brain anymore. but you still think eating them is wrong.
>>82896306plants suffer which is why veganism is still immoral. do you really want to argue that your life does not require other living things to be sacrificed?
>>82895577>Do you still wanna eat them?Absolutely yes.
>>82895577Yes.DESU I'd eat human too if it tasted good and it wasn't bad for consumption because of prion disease or some shit.IDGAF.My phone and/or pc probably still has metaphorical residues of some child laborers blood on it, that scraped the rare earth elements out some mine in some african hellhole.Just because the resulting death is a second order effect rather than primary as with food doesn't mean the products I consume don't enslave or kill humans too.Thats just how it is.Why would I give a fuck about some stupid cow if I don't even give a fuck about humans who I too know have "distinct personalities and capabilities of suffering".Like, isn't that literally the part that makes """natural""" diamonds more expensive, that we know some poor sod paid with his sweat and blood for that diamond rather than just being created in a lab. You can practically smell the suffering, its what makes it valueable.
Why do you keep posting this stuff here? I don't think you've done anything positive for your movement at all. In fact, you've probably increased meat consumption for the day every time you post.
>>82896865Prion disease is a myth perpetuated by moralists. In truth, malignant prions are practically unheard of in standard human populations. Unless you're eating the brains of an elderly Papuan man, you will be completely fine. The economic elites of this world often eat children, and many known child murderers also enjoyed the delights of child flesh. None of them got ill. In fact, they were likely far healthier than you or me due to the great quantity of bioavailable nutrients contained within the supple and delicious meat of a human child.
>>82896943Alzheimer's can be infectious like a prion disease and there was some speculation that it either was or was operating under similar mechanics. I don't think you're right here. Most of the reason prions are rare is because we don't typically eat nervous system system. If that changed we would see more prions.
>>82896975If you be so cowardly then simply avoid eating any brains. I, however, will be relishing the rich and fatty neural tissues.
>>82895577How many years have you been doing this now?