It's insane that people are generally against that idea.
Like, what makes you think children absolutely need to learn about your LGBT ideas?
Why can't it wait till they're old enough to understand the implications?

In 2050 they will admit that LGBT was never about human rights, it was always about gaslighting several generations about sexuality so that the white race would die out

It will be too late to stop it by then.

Targeting children is literally how the LGBT group grows

>>82902104
Because we are under a hostile occupation.

>>82902104
You right. This is just as true as porn consumption in childhood. Fag stuff I don't think is inherently bad but their "pride" and ego has just been overinflated over the past like 2 decades in the making. I don't hate them and I don't even want to hate them.

I've regularly asked myself
>am I evil for gooning
>am I evil for being gay
>do I deserve to be punished or should I punish myself because of this

>>82902104
Yeah being a faggot tranny is totally natural and normal, that's why we have to read picture books to kids about how having anal sex is niggers is awesome. It's just a huge coincidence that the only thing trannies seem to be able to produce professionally is books targeted at children and that they seem to constantly want access to children.

>>82902104
When they learn about straight couple families they also learn about gay couple families. Sounds fair. Not teaching kids about the existence of any other couple than mother + father because you dont like it is exactly the targeting you're talking about >>82902124

>>82902104
Yeah, the LGBT is over represented.

Don't give a shit about the kids tho, fuck 'em (not literally troons)

>>82902199
This is just stupid gaslighting and you're a child molestor and you know it.
LGBT used to be about some adults being gay. Since when was that something you absolutely had to teach to kids?
Did gays in the 90s teach kids that being gay is better than being straight?
You fags always sound like this was a competition or a war between straight vs gay world
You wanna be accepted, or you wanna convert the population?

>>82902163
>porn consumption in childhood
You're either a zoomer, or a christcuck.

>>82902199
>When they learn about straight couple families

You act like straight / gay are equal, two sides of the same coin.
They're not.
As a biological life form our ONLY duty is to reproduce. A species that cannot reproduce will die out.
As such, straight is the default, and should be treated as such. Kids should literally only be taught about straight couples.
Gays are and will always be a weird minority and we dont want that shit to become contagious because it will result in global extinction. I'm autistic and have to live with that. You're a degenerate, you just gotta live with that. I'm not blaming others for my autism or trying to make it the norm.

>>82902269
>christcuck

We unironically need more Christianity.
Our country is somehow now full of muslims and LGBT fags because we rejected Christianity.
No idea how the fuck islam + LGBT managed to coexist here but it's like the worst possible outcome

>>82902269
I am a zoomer who was raised Catholic. I never liked any of that stuff though. It's taken time but I've come around to it more and more I just don't research it enough to think it through properly.

>>82902287
>I'm not blaming others for my autism or trying to make it the norm.
That's healthy. I've come to the realization that resentment is truly evil and is a fucking extremely well camouflaged snake. Gays just think the majority want them dead for being gay and the gay side in response want them dead now. Bro I just wanna grill and I am a fag.

>>82902104
You are in a board where mainly straight incels post about raping women and shit. Opening your post with anime porn. Children should be protected from you, fag.

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>>82902368
Women are this way about feminism.
They're scared of men, and as such want to kill men.

Also, can you anons explain picrel

>>82902115
Some children are queer, though.
You are asking them to endure years of repression and bullying in silence because you aren't comfortable with the idea that queer people exist spontaneously

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Real child grooming happens in church where they learn to hate LGBT people, and in the case of LGBT children, they learn to hate themselves

>>82902379
Yes, easy, no one complains about that fan art. That's you shitting yourself over nothing. The other picture is also just you shitting yourself over nothing. Grow a pair or killyourself

>>82902402
Personally I don't buy that anyone is "naturally" gay
Something made them that way, and it sure as hell wasn't God

>>82902409
Every single religious household I've met had something weird going on.

>>82902402
>Some children are queer, though.
No they aren't, pedophile.

>>82902421
>Personally I'm deeply lgbtphobic
Denying queer children exist is an attempt at erasing our existence.
All it takes is one queer kid raised in a deeply conservative environment to prove you wrong.

>>82902421
God doesn't make kids gay. That'd be crazy. God only makes kids be born with deformities and maybe even die at birth. That's the god I know

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>>82902425
You misspelled "catholic priest"

>>82902409
That's not good and I'm not down with it personally. Self hate is a blessing and curse. The weird part is I don't like seeing pride flags in churches but I don't just outright hate gays because I am bisexual they have just been too annoying for so long now. Everywhere you look over the past decade plus they want to control you and your speech it is an undeniable pattern. They want or feel entitled to acceptance and that's not fair. I don't think it means you should hate them though either. I want to accept them and myself within a reasonable compromise.

>>82902434
Why are you even trying to argue in this forum. It's a lost cause. Chances are the guy you are arguing with is a pedophile

>>82902448
But notice how you didn't make a thread denouncing religious indoctrination of children.
Notice how the hundreds of churches in your neighborhood are crawling with children, and you never really cared about it until now.
But queer children getting some representation instead of the silent invitation to a life of closeted repression, that's what bothers you.
Clearly the well being of queer kids isn't on your list. You are too worried denying they exist to care about them.

>>82902402
>You are asking them to endure years of repression and bullying in silence

Only actual faggots whine and bitch about something like this.
You being ashamed of your weakness is not "bullying"
Google the term "crybully".

>>82902409

2000 years of Christianity yielded better results than 20 years of LGBT. Statistics don't lie, your emotions do.
Our society collapsed the second you made LGBT the main religion in the west. Like, why does your dick need to be our religion? Come on man. Learn to think higher thoughts.

>>82902434

Again, stop whining. Get stronger. I was bullied my whole life and I'm not bitching about it. I'm glad I got bullied because the bullies just wanted me to get stronger so I'd survive in this world.

>>82902449
I love arguing in good faith with troll incel autists which makes this place perfect

>>82902464
>notice how you didn't make a thread denouncing religious indoctrination of children

So it's now a competition of who gets to brainwash the children?
Come on man.
You're not even trying to be the better man here.

>>82902448
>within a reasonable compromise
What the fuck is all this pretending. Just say you hate fags or you don't. There's no such thing as wanting a compromise. People want compromise only because they realise their real position isn't ok anymore

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>>82902466
>2000 years of Christianity yielded better results
>The results

>>82902442
Priests are men. In overwhelming majority of cases they abuse boys.
Now put your head in the noose, faggot.

>>82902482
He says, while witch hunting straight white males in 2025.

>>82902482
I lived in the 1990s and it was the perfect time. Then woke came and now everything is shit.
Your pic is from the middle ages, I'm talkin 90s
Just before you and your ilk were born.

>>82902489
Grow a pair. Lmfao. Literally nothing happened to white straight males. You are just a pussy

>>82902497
Grow a pair. Lmfao. Literally nothing happened to blacks or sexual and gender minorities. You are just a pussy

>>82902482
They burned gays and other deviants, so yeah.

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>>82902448
>I just don't outright hate gays because I am one
Your self hatred is oozing.
The person trying to police speech in this thread is doing that against LGBT people in favor of religious indoctrination.
There's nothing as annoying as minorities fighting for rights, said the oppressors. Choose your fights carefully, you don't want to find out you've been fighting against your own interests

>>82902500
>other deviants
Like you, lmao

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Who cares? fuck normaloids and their spawns.

>>82902501
I'm a straight white male and I legit, unironically, think that I'm being oppressed in society these days.
Feminists want to kill me. Most women think men are monsters.
LGBT people won't protect me because I dont have weird fetishes or something like that.

Like, being straight is the only group that doesnt get protection, only criticism.

>>82902507
>no argument
Concession accepted, libtard.

>>82902489
Sounds like you are the cry bully acting like a victim and whining instead of growing stronger like your bullies want you to.
How quickly you change your whole ethos. Hypocrisy is a fundamental aspect of conservatism

>>82902518
Straight white male here. You live in a fantasy world and should grow up.

>>82902476
You don't really care about the brainwashing of children otherwise you would denounce the institutions that do it en masse: churches.
You care about queer children being bullied into the closet like you were. You don't want to risk a world where they learn not to hate themselves.

>>82902526
>Hypocrisy is a fundamental aspect of conservatism

Conservatism, like the word implies, is about conserving things so they dont break or get lost.
It makes sense to me.
Liberals just want to wreck institutions and concepts that have worked for millenia
>rreee but they dont work for me personally
We're a hivemind. We've always wrecked minorities in favor of the majority. It's called survival.

>>82902518
>I'm being oppressed in society these days.
You should listen to what conservatives have to say about the oppression of queer children >>82902466
And reflect upon it

>>82902536
>You don't want to risk a world where they learn not to hate themselves.

This makes absolutely no sense. You're saying I just want to be evil for the sake of being evil.
Do you understand how childish that sounds?
You're not a lone victim facing a conspiracy of evil people. Unironically religious thinking works that way.

Pride is celebrated for 3-4 months every year, which makes it over represented. Why cant you take yes for an answer? Nobody owed you that much recognition. Humanity is trying to indulge you so you'd stop whining, but instead you just want more like the hungry hippo you are. How much worship do you want?

>>82902540
Lmfao. Grow up

>>82902540
>is about conserving things
All fun and games until you try to conserve something that is bad, like hatred for minorities.
That's the flaw in conservatism. You don't leave any room for improvement and correction of outright harmful traditions, like mutilating baby's penises

>>82902540
>Conservatism, like the word implies, is about conserving things
Maybe in the academic sense. The US right are just opportunistic vultures preying on people's anxieties to rob them. They could give a fuck about children. Epstein and Maxwell were groomers, pimps and pedophiles, after all.

>>82902540
>We've always wrecked minorities
Civilization advancement is precisely the opposite of that, it's about caring for the necessities of the meek.
There's one minority you worship, sadly it's billionaires.

>>82902565
>You're saying I just want to be evil for the sake of being evil.
>Do you understand how childish that sounds?
Sounds perfectly accurate to me
>>>82902540
>We're a hivemind. We've always wrecked minorities in favor of the majority. It's called survival.

>>82902547
Children don't face systematic "oppression" queer or not.
You have the burden of proof here, for such an extraordinary claim.
And no middle ages or middle east examples please.
Show me how countries like Denmark, Finland, Norway etc. are oppressing queer children systematically.
You hating yourself, or kids bullying one another is not oppression.

>>82902580
>Civilization advancement is precisely the opposite of that, it's about caring for the necessities of the meek.

Ok so where are my unemployment benefits?

I cant get a job, yet people just screech at me when I want compensation for unemployment.

This is a real issue, not your sexual gratification.

>>82902565
You just want to hate queer children to give them a taste of what you went through.
Pride is not celebrated enough, as there are still conservative households where queer children aren't accepted and they face the looming threat of being kicked out over the truth spilling. You were probably raised in a house like this.

>>82902584

Only leftists and LGBT guys always bastardize this conversation into
>you're the bad guy!
>no you're the bad guy!
>we're the good guys!

Like, you literally see the world in black and white: the good guys vs the bad guys.
This is how a child sees the world.

I just ignore posters who screech about being victims and other people being the bad guys. This it not Lego movie.

>>82902595
>Ok so where are my unemployment benefits?
Oh, gee, I wonder which side of the political spectrum advocates for those kinds of measures. You can only think there's hypocrisy here if you were born yesterday

>>82902595
As a citizen from a country with actual welfare policies for the poor, I too wonder where are your gibs

>>82902104
Thousands of churches and entire schooling systems designed to indoctrinate children into believing some Jewish God, nobody gives a shit. Even with all the priest molestation.

One month of pride for LGBT awareness that is celebrated everywhere by people of all ages and everyone loses their mind. Make it make sense!

>>82902586
>Children don't face systematic "oppression" queer or not
Queer children do. Even in this thread you have random incels doubting their very existence. The treatment they get in school looks more like this thread than not. Not to mention the queer children in conservative households.
I love how you preach that bullying is good and makes individuals stronger, and that victim mentality is wrong
Until it happens to you

>>82902604

>you just want to HATE us!!!!!!!!!!!
>boohooooo le HATE

If someone hating you is this much of an issue for you, you may as well kill yourself today, because you were never meant to make it in this world. People will always hate you.
I'm unemployed and people aggressively hate me for being a "leech on society".
I'm a straight incel male so people hate me because I'm a "misogynist".
I'm in the sex offender registry, and people would literally burn me at the stake me for that.
The list goes on and on.
Do you see me whining, pointing fingers and playing the victim like you are?
I own it. You just bitch about it.

>>82902609
The guy I was replying to was the one to bring that up. It's not leftists talking about good and bad guys. In fact the only group to whom a fight between good an evil is a part of their beliefs are Christians

>>82902565
>Pride is celebrated for 3-4 months every year, which makes it over represented.
It's actually one month, making it a 1/12th of the year. But since there's more LGBT people than that, we are not overrepresented at all. We are actually underrepresented and underreported.

>>82902620

>"religious indoctrination is wrong so we will double down and now indoctrinate children with fanfiction about biology instead and throw some anti-religion narrative in the mix because we're bitter about religion"

Amazing logic. Why cant you stop indoctrination altogether? You're just replacing dogma x with dogma y.

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>>82902494
Our movement was born in 1969 actually. I think you are just ignorant about our fight and nostalgic about your childhood.

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>>82902651

The left has whined and paraded so much during the last 10 years that you guys have annoyed the average American into fascism.
You created the opposition by overreaching, unironically.

>just 1 month
I dont see anything else celebrated that much. Christmas is the biggest national holiday and officially it lasts like 3 days.
You sound very biased. If you had your way, you'd make Pride month last 12 months per year. The world doesn't revolve around you. And that's why people are annoyed.

>>82902632
>I'm in the sex offender registry, and people would literally burn me at the stake me for that.
Lmfao. Yeah this is who you argue against when you talk to conservative religious people online. They are perverts and pedophiles. Every time

>>82902464
They do exist because I am and was one. I'm really just talking about accountability. No one want's to admit when their favorite sports team was in the wrong and it's not fair to everyone else. I don't even go to church man and I don't really want to.

>>82902479
But I don't hate them and I don't want to. I am a fag. Am I a bad person for using a slur to describe myself?

>>82902501
I've actually been doing better with the self hate stuff. My view on self hate is that it can be a good thing sometimes but it's not heathy I know. In my opinion self hate means you can recognize personal flaws but I've often always projected that hate onto the undeserving and also hurt myself which just reinfoces the cycle into more and more extreme ways.

Literally love yourself now unironically.

>>82902665
>"our struggle!!!!!! OUR FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!"

You don't know anything about struggling. Try being a cancelled pedo in 2025. That's struggle.
Compared to pedos, being gay is easymode.

>>82902653
>Religious indoctrination is wrong
>0 threads about it
>This minority group is being given a voice
>Seethes
Queer children, unlike christian children, aren't being indoctrinated. They are being freed to be their authentic selves

>>82902676
>'m in the sex offender registry, and people would literally burn me at the stake me for that.
The absolute state of religion on 2025

>>82902672
>Lmfao. Yeah this is who you argue against when you talk to conservative religious people online. They are perverts and pedophiles. Every time

You're hating us. That's literal HATE and oppression and bullying
This is our struggle

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>>82902677

You've made this same argument in this thread for what, 50 times now?
Tone down the obsession a bit, nobody wants to have a discussion with a broken record.

>>82902684
True! Churches should start hanging pedo flags in support! Jesus died for MAP rights

>>82902674
You should speak up about accountability for conservatives for everything they have done/are doing against queer children and queer people in general.

>>82902692
>posting fake pride flags implying pedophilia
>The self admitted pedo in the thread is a Christian
Amazing. Complete disconnect from reality

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>>82902518

touch grass wigger retard, reverse racism and heterophobia or whatever is only real in tranny social media

>>82902674
Answer the questions or respond to the argument. I am not on the red team like you think I am.

>>82902674
How can you possibly defend the lie that queer children aren't a thing when you were one yourself?
You desperately need to spend less time on homophobic threads in the incel board . I fear you come here to fuel your self hatred, not to amend it.

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OP here.

I never mentioned religion in my post.
I was wondering how long it would take for you guys to devolve this discussion in to LGBT vs Christianity (not even Islam, just Christianity as always).
This is how I know you don't actually have anything to counter my opening post with.
You just derailed the discussion and made it about something that you CAN argue against.

Fuck you. This was never about LGBT vs Christianity. You just twist it around into that because you're delusional and can't take responsibility for your own life.
You will never be a woman.

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>>82902674
>I've often always projected that hate onto the undeserving
Let me guess: other gay people.
Please aim your hate at proper targets

>>82902702
Meant to @ you for this post. Whoops.

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>>82902711
Why are you inventing fanfiction about this thread?

Pic rel, LGBT is fanfiction about biology. This is delusional.

>>82902123
White population is literally up 2% this year lol

>>82902738
Don't worry OP. We know it was never about being worried about kids. After all the pedophiles are on your side. Of course owning the trannies is more important than that

>>82902738
There is no LGBT indoctrination of children.
There is a lot of religious indoctrination of children.
You don't really care about indoctrination of children.
You just hate queers, most of all children who are queer.

>>82902754
They're lying about that so anti-whites would get scared and attack

>>82902702
again I am fucking retarded I an taking about this >>82902674 in response to this >>82902702 Im fucking drunk so sorry.

>>82902753
Scroll up man. The guy on the registry's on your side. A conservative near children is a problem waiting to happen

>>82902758
Are you telling yourself that, or me?
I don't see an argument there.
You're just foaming at the mouth about your fears, speaking them as if they were facts.
I don't really wanna converse at that level I'm afraid. I have a degree in physics and I'm picky about the level of intellectuality of my discussions.

>>82902773
> a porn addict will be a rapist so lets ban porn and thought police people.

>>82902773
>The guy on the registry's on your side
>on your side
>side

OP here again, as I tried to imply, I'm not interested in this weird idea that we're at civil war or something
That's divide et impera working its magic, making us hate one another.
If I read this thread correctly, you hate Christians because they hate you, and them hating you is the wrong type of hate so your anti-hate hate is justifed.
Doesn't make sense to me, man.

>>82902781
>A porn addict.
You don't get on the registry for being a porn addict

>>82902745
Only certain types. Who I really HATE are just people trying to control me. We also don't need gay stuff in schools it doesn't make any sense. If there ever was a good argument or method for doing it then I am open to listening but I haven't heard one. I think fundamentally the basics of reproduction is all you need to be taught by an authority figure. I went to a private Catholic school and around 5th grade is when we were taught about sex and we we're also warned about AIDS from being gay. My schooling did not indoctrinate me to hate them and I don't hate them.

>inb4 so you must hate God because he imposed rules

>>82902767
>Drinking alone while shitposting in the incel board
This is why you hate gay people (yourself included).

>>82902791
>If I read this thread correctly, you hate Christians because they hate you, and them hating you is the wrong type of hate so your anti-hate hate is justifed.
Lol actually good concise way to explain our current "war?"

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>bawww I hate Christianity b00h0000

Jesus can forgive your sins, though. Not just talking about homosexuality but actual sins like hating others and doing bad things like violence.

Can your LGBT god set you free and give you salvation?
What can it do?
Like, answer me honestly without turning this around with another question or nasty remark.
What can your god do? The way I see it is you're not even happy.

>>82902791
I'm not that, not gay or anything. I hate Christians cause they are annoying, wrong and make everything worse for everyone around them. The logic you are using there is retarded. Children say that type of stuff. Platitudes that can be used to justify everything. You are not allowed to hate anything cause that'd make you hateful? Amazing

>>82902791
>you hate Christians because they hate you
Clearly someone started the hate, just like someone starts wars of aggression.

>>82902830
Does Jesus forgive pedophiles? If so he's gonna have to forgive a lot if he wants his followers in heaven

>>82902830
>Can your LGBT god set you free and give you salvation? What can it do?
My god can beat up your god

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>>82902830
It feels like you're telling this to yourself in hopes of curing your own homosexuality, something you failed so far despite heroic attempts.
>Agreeing with universities, media, corporations and Hollywood is bad
>Agree with the ancient hebrews instead

>>82902826
Hate comes from resentment. Not only but that shit will fuck you up and I've only somewhat realized recently how much it has damaged me. I can't resent gays because I am one. I resent the pattern of behavior they keep displaying. Their movement is literally called "pride" lmao it's pretty obvious why people are becoming resentful about it.

>>82902866
Skill issue you are just a pussy

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>>82902866
>Minorities are as a whole responsible for the sins of the few
With that mindset, you would be fated to self hate no matter the minority you're part of.
I wish your feelings were consistent towards gay virtues and achievements.

>>82902854
Why do you hate Jews or ancients? Is it because of the power or influence they have over America? Is it only them or all? Is it because they hate you? is it because of the fundamental differences in religion. We are Goys in their minds to a fuck load of them. So what do we do about that? How are we supposed to feel? What is the correct feeling?

>>82902830
>What can it do?
Literally killed your god and made it legally irrelevant

>>82902894
Powerscaling Jesus against woke. Rip Jesus. Not coming back this time. Woke clears

>>82902882
>you would be fated to self hate no matter the minority you're part of.
How many times do I have to repeat myself that I don't hate them? That word is thrown around so loosely that it's psyoped everyone into not understanding what they really hate or why. I guess I should HATE you now because we are disagreeing and that breeds conflict and resentment. I guess now I am justified in killing you or censoring your speech. Do you not see the absurdity here?

>>82902905
You bring the sword to confront evil. Peoples implicit understanding of evil has been psyoped and highjacked. start somewhere simple and extrapolate.

>Cold blooded murder should = execution.

>Gays being gay does not = justified hatred and hostility.

>>82902916
Your self hatred is apparent even if you don't admit to it. You can call it "resentment" if you want

>>82902888
>What is the correct feeling?
Definitely not hating minorities

>>82902936
>you don't admit to it.
I've been pretty open in recognizing this actually but keep ignoring.

>I'm gay your criticism of my group and their identify make you a bad person for my lifestyle choice.

>>82902945
>What is the correct feeling?
How the fuck should I know I'm the one asking that question? I don't hate them either. It's literally just subsets with every group and recognizing patterns of behavior. It's pretty simple actually.

>>82902946
Your "criticism" includes calling gay children "indoctrinated" alluding to outdated hate filled worldviews that saw gayness as something contagious and used the "protection of children" as an excuse to persecute us, to the detriment of queer children above all. Going as far as calling it a "lifestyle choice" further undermining the reality that we are born gay, not turned and not choosing
That is hateful. Bring up the semantics

>>82902402
Children are aesexual until they are around 12

Sure they might have a crush but that crush never goes beyond a simple fascination with another person. It's not sexual.

You people act like 5 year old are going to bully someone for being gay when they don't even understand the concept. The world is imperfect. At a certain point you have to realize there is going to be bullying whether it's because your gay, you suck at sports or like the powerpuff girls.

>>82902104
Your post is stupid chud shit, but can you post more Milly porn? She's a cute

>>82902962
You call it resentment when it's typical minority hating behavior. The whole group becomes a bullseye target for your resentful feelings towards these "subsets"

>>82902969
>we are born gay
Explain how you know this with 100% accuracy.

>I guess I better blame the chemicals in my brain because I decided to look at gay porn when I was 12
Also I am not that anon who was talking about indoctrination that was someone else and I'm not arguing in hate or in favor of more discrimination towards gays idk why you keep assuming so.

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>>82902986
>Children are aesexual until they are around 12
More like their sexuality is underdeveloped and latent before puberty and before sexual awakening, which is why it's imperative that adults don't exploit their immature sexualities.
They do have orientations already by that age and before. You don't care too much about the kids younger than 12 who are straight. You only care when they aren't.
You just want queer kids to be queer in the silence and darkness of their own minds.

>>82902434
Queer children don't exist. Stop pretending faggots are a oppressed people as if you were black. Fuck off you stupid faggot

>>82902442
I like that you assume literally the only reason anyone would hate you is if they are a christcuck

>>82903014
>Explain how you know this with 100% accuracy
Me and every other gay person I've ever known showing clear signs of being queer noticeable to everyone who interacted with us since before we can remember existing

>>82903018
Queer children exist. Queer people are oppressed.
You probably struggle with self acceptance

>>82903018
This guy is getting tiresome but I assume he is arguing in good faith so idk lol. It' like people like him can only realize some aspects of nature and nature but refuse others because it's "mean."

>Stop pretending faggots are a oppressed people as if you were black
This perceived oppression bullshit is too tiresome.

>>82903026
Be grateful you are even allowed to be gay nigga. Stop being a victim and thinking we would throw you off rooftops just because you like penis or man butt.

>>82903014
I love your implication that a straight kid was tuned gay by looking at gay porn at 12
When the reality of a gay kid is being exposed to straight porn before they even knew they were gay, and not liking it all.
It's like this transformation road only works one way, from straight to gay, but never the other way around.
It's because it's bullshit and not an actual fact. If porn was to blame, there wouldn't be gay children in environments without access to pornography

>>82902518
It's true. They know it's true as well which is why they get so angry.

They unironically view hetero sexual couples as evil and fascism. Hence they will ignore a gay cartoon character getting a straight guy drunk to fuck him while making a big deal about a straight guy asking a girl out on a date again after she already said no once

>>82903058
The oppression is real, not at all perceived. It happens mostly in churches. Gay minors are still more likely to be kicked out by their conservative parents. Not to mention the physical violence they can get at home.
We are victims, but we refuse to remain victims, unlike incels. Challenging your hate in this thread is just one example of this struggle

>>82903062
>was tuned gay
Then endpoint you eventually reach by thinking like this is that there is no nurture with nature. You only are focused on the nature aspect.

>waah waah I was born this way so I deserve more
Bro I'd hate fuck you if that's what it took to get you out of this mind frame.

>>82903071
>a gay cartoon character getting a straight guy drunk to fuck him
Something that doesn't exist outside your head.
But in retrospect, you do get mad at gay cartoon characters at all, regardless of what they do, by the merit of gays merely existing in media.
Which is kinda like you feel about queer children

>>82903083
>The oppression is real
Here in the US or other western nations? Lol ok now do the middle east.

>>82903085
This "nurture" can somehow turn a straight kid gay, but it doesn't work the other way around?
There's no nurture that can change upside down certain aspects of your being, sexuality being one of them.

>>82903085
>I deserve more
We deserve the same. For the oppressor, people who have less fighting for equality, feels like a loss.

>>82903099
Yes in every conservative household, church or classroom this oppression is pretty much alive. This thread being just an example.
>Someone has it worse, therefore you're not entitled to complain
A fallacy through and through. Gay people are oppressed worldwide, just less so in the west

>>82903085
I love how you hate queers using victim mentality, while you excuse incels for being pathetic whining cry bullies.

>>82903104
>>82903109
Ok
>Be "inherently" gay (which isn't all gays btw)
>Choose not to fuck men.
You can do that btw it's just a personal choice. I'm not gonna ignore the nature aspect either but it's straight up not for the majority of people who are gay or sexuality divergent from the norm. The norm is the norm because it is normal. This does not mean being cruel to the divergent for everything.

It is perceived oppression because you already are accepted by most people. Niggas just wanna grill and you guys tweaked the fuck out for some reason over the past 10 plus years demanding more when you already are equal and not inherently bad people.

Homosexuals should be just put in bodybags, we win nothing letting them groom children.

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>>82902104
>>82902115
>>82902123
Being against homosexuality = Jewish

>>82903133
>You hate
>hate
>hate
>hate
Stop it get some help.

>>82903176
It's so ironic to say that after a post like >>82903152

It's right there staring at you, the hate you deny exists.
This thread was created by it.

>>82903148
>>Choose not to fuck men.
You're still gay. Just celibate.
Just like a heterosexual incel doesn't stop being heterosexual because he's a virgin. Sexuality is defined by your attraction to others, not by your body count.

>he posted, on a website more responsible for grooming children than any other previously invented technology

>>82903148
>you already are equal
Not really. Churches still exist as bastions of homophobia where only straggot couples are welcome.
Gay kids still get kicked out of their homes for being gay.
Gay children are specially more vulnerable to these inequalities. Some of them, raised by conservative families, are trapped in a closet that looks more like a prison.

>>82903192
I accept you even though you keep posting cringe desu. We don't have to hate each other. Do you not see how this back and forth can be kinda fun? Also, I wasn't this anon >>82903152 I don't agree with him. Yes that is a hate filed statement but I don't care because he has no power.


>Anons in the thread hate you because you like penis
So what? What rules did they impose on you? How are they controlling you? Gay niggas want me killed and banned just because I might be mean to them online. This behavior comes from both sides I understand and it's cringe.

>Sexuality is defined by your attraction to others, not by your body count.
I agree and I wasn't arguing that point.

>>82903247
Yeah and none of that is good. That happening does not come from a position of understanding or compromise. I don't want gay kids to be ostracized or bullied for being gay but people need the ability to be able to ostracize and bully what matters is the direction in which it is pointed at.

>>82903288
>and none of that is good
I agree, those are the pervasive examples of gay oppression and gay hatred in our society, and this thread is just a part of that.
When you say a gay kid doesn't exist, or that they were "infected" with the gay curse by means of media consumption, you are bullying gay children yourself. Eve if you haven't done this in particular, that is the theme of this thread

>>82903274
>Yes that is a hate filed statement
And that hate filled statement is still present in the conservative sects of society, at large, and the gay children born in these circles will pay the price.
>How are they controlling you
They are trying and failing because they have no power.
But the politicians they vote for have power.
The last time I was hate crimed, not long ago, it was done by someone who thinks just like them, and maybe like you too.

>>82903309
>When you say a gay kid doesn't exist, or that they were "infected" with the gay curse by means of media consumption, you are bullying gay children yourself.
I didn't and also that terminology is very assuming. If you believe in nurture than you have to believe kids can be influenced to become gay and not just be gay "inherently" always. Idk if it's really a good or bad thing to not teach kids about that stuff but I would still say it's better to just teach the basic normal biological reproduction between men and women. I think that is a norm that should remain a norm because the disparity is not great enough in the general human population to "want" it to be normal or seen as normal. Stop viewing yourself as "normal."

>>82903398
>kids can be influenced to become gay
They can't. Hence why "converting" gay kids into heterosexuality is a fool's errand.
Nurture can't change your sexuality anymore than it can change your eye color.

>>82903324
The anon in the thread didn't hate crime you. What did the guy who hate crimed you do to you? If he just decided to hurt you personally or physically because you are gay then yeah that is bad. He wanted authority over your lifestyle choices that didn't effect him personally.

>>82903398
You are saying, with euphemisms, that gay kids shouldn't be taught that it's okay being gay, delegating them to a lifetime of repression and self hate.
Which is what happened to you.
Gay kids existing is normal. You are using normalcy as a facade for hate.

>>82903416
>Nurture can't change your sexuality anymore than it can change your eye color.
By this logic then we can't change minds for anything. I might as well say "Christian beliefs are inherent" but that doesn't make any sense.

>>82903427
It is normal and part of the human experience but I'm talking about proportionality.

>>82903418
>The anon in the thread didn't hate crime you
They didn't reach me through the internet, but they tried. Saying "gays should be killed" is a hateful statement that is a crime depending on where you live.
>What did the guy who hate crimed you do to you?
Assaulted my bf and I as we were holding hands in public.

>>82903436
It's very common, more common than having disabilities and we still teach children to respect the handicapped, but we can't teach them to respect other minorities?
Sorry, for a homosexual to have such opinion, it's pretty much self hatred.

>>82903429
>We can't change minds
You can because you use minds in this sentence to mean "opinions".
Your sexuality is not an opinion, it's something much much deeper than your deepest held beliefs. It's in the architecture of your brain. It's wired into your limbic system.
There's no changing that willingly. You can traumatize a child but you can't turn them straight/gay

>>82903429
You conflating beliefs with sexuality shows how ignorant you are on the topic.
Ignorance breeds hatred.
No children are born christians. Some children are born gay. Get over your own hangups with acceptance

If I'm being honest I think the whole LGBT grooms kids thing is retarded but there's genuinely creeps on Twitter who deal drugs to confused children and get treated like they saved a puppy from a house fire and it's gross. I think hating gay stuff is a waste of time but it gets to a point where even the faggiest could admit that it's grooming

>>82903452
>gays should be killed
Call to violence which is bad. Give appropriate punishment. His hate doesn't matter it's the action he took by saying kill "xyz" over something inconsequential like sticking a penis in your ass.

>Assaulted my bf and I as we were holding hands in public.
Even worse than the call to violence. Give appropriate punishment. I don't mean you but this happening does not mean people simply "not liking you for being gay" matters as much. If they hold power and oppress you for it then yeah I don't agree.

>expample
Should a bakery be forced to make the gay cake? Should Churches be forced to marry gays if they don't want to? It's a matter of force. Some churches and bakery's would still be fine operating with you but they will not want to be forced.

>>82903470
Yeah true. Straight people are also inherent though and fundamental to out existence. Seeing that as normal is not a bad thing and it doesn't mean or give justification to oppress gays bruh. That's really maybe the most simple way I can explain my viewpoint on this whole topic.

>>82903541
>Seeing that as normal is not a bad thing
It is when your implication is that gay children are abnormalities that shouldn't even be discussed in classrooms. This viewpoint is bad for gay children, it's a conservative stance and it's part of the myriad of reasons why you are a self hating homosexual

>>82903663
>It's "conservative" for recognizing human biology and reproduction.
>conservative=bad
Lol man. This is why you guy are getting hated on btw. Your egos really have inflated while you live in such accepting countries and peoples and ideologies.

I'm liberal as fuck man really. If this conversation hasn't proven that then idk what else to say.

>>82903541
>Should a bakery be forced to make the gay cake?
Should a gay couple be discriminated against and denied service because of their sexuality? The answer is no.
Churches operate under the disguise of religious freedom to enact their bigotry. That's not a privilege I would like to see extended towards other institutions.

>>82903691
Some people being gay is an intrinsic part of biology and nature that you ignore.

>>82903691
>liberal as fuck
Then why are you spousing conservative talking points in a thread accusing LGBT people of grooming children? Please make your cultural liberalism more apparent

>>82903715
And I already said I agree for some people it's just not the norm even for gays themselves and there is a nurture aspect to it. it is not a fundamental for most humans I feel like a broken record here.

>>82903696
Why not allow people to be bigoted? You can to me if you want. Should I ban or kill you because we disagree? How about we reframe this. What about banks should they be enforced to not debank people for their edgy opinions? What services should or shouldn't be regulated to not allow to deny service. You can not claim to know the answer.

>>82903727
Because they are grooming children
>Thing that never happens keeps happening.

>>82903734
>it's just not the norm
Gay people existing in nature is the norm.
You are once again using the fallacy of "normality" to disguise bigoted beliefs that nothing gay belongs in a classroom, whatever message that sends to gay children.
Education is not about teaching solely "the norm", quite the contrary. Real education is teaching kids how to handle the difference, not the similarities. And it should be done with respect for minorities first and foremost.

>>82903759
They aren't, really.
The real grooming of children is conservative in nature, and it happens inside church. That one you ignore because it doesn't fit your narrative. Very liberal of you.

>>82903752
>Why not allow people to be bigoted?
You might as well ask why not allow people to hate gays
Until we remember that they are indeed allowed to hate gays, and you're a natural at it.
That's a reality that we fight to change.

>>82903752
>What about banks should they be enforced to not debank people for their edgy opinions?
Who is being debanked for edgy opinions when you have a president like trump and the richest person in the world bought a whole social media platform to voice their edginess to the world?
No service should be allowed to discriminate against sexual minorities just like they shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against races.
That's not the world we live in, that's the world we fight to build up.

>>82903761
What's more important?

>Teaching basic fundamental's like heterosexuality at the proper age

or

>Gay books for kids so they "feel" accepted

They don't HAVE to be taught about all the complicated realities of different sexualities. This doesn't mean ostracizing them they will figure it out man. It's people like you that think your enforcement of your moral good due to this perceived oppression by the system or personal ostracization is justified. How can you look at the middle east and still say "I am still too oppressed for being gay or showing people I am gay?"

>>82903793
>elons an evil nazi he hates gays
>allows gays to be on twitter

>past 10 plus years
>nazis must be banned from public discourse and services

You wonder WHY people hate you. You wont recognize that you want so much control but you will accuse me of wanting control at the same time.

>>82903734
>there is a nurture aspect to it
There really isn't. You can't turn any gay kid into a straight kid, and the opposite is true. You can make a gay come to terms with themselves and come out, something you haven't done yet
>I'm a liberal
With opinions like that? lmao yeah I'm a conservative actually.

>>82903828
You're talking to someone living in a country where nazi apologetics and waving nazi swastikas is literally a crime.
We don't want control, we want freedom to love and freedom from hate. meanwhile your ilk is more interested in freedom to hate.

>>82903828
So who is being debanked for edgy opinions? Or was that another lie?

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>>82903828
People have hated queers for the same reason why people have hated the left handed for centuries.

>>82903843
What you cannot control is what makes your cock hard. What matters is how you act on that feeling. You are not understanding that it is a matter of personal choice. I guess because I am gay I should just go on grindr and have meaningless sex because it feels good. It's all happy and sunshine and rainbows because I'm so happy and accepting wow look at how good I am.

>>82903805
>>Teaching basic fundamental's
Respecting minorities is a basic fundamental.
Diversity is a basic fundamental aspect of civilization.
Both things can be taught at the same time as other subjects because this isn't an "or" issue, It's an "and" issue.
Hate isn't fundamental to anything, though.

>>82903805
>This doesn't mean ostracizing them
If you can't even talk about their reality in school, that is worse than ostracizing. It's straight up alienating any and all queer children.
"They will figure it out" after struggling with denial, repression, bullying and self hatred for years, unnecessarily, like you did.
There are two types of gays. Ones who don't want other gay kids who go through what they went through. And gays like you.

>>82903843
You don't control what makes your cock hard what you do with the impulse is what matters. I'm saying it's better to just not have state enforced homosexuality I'm not arguing to outlaw it.

>>82903859
I want freedom to love and hate. The HATE part is what can be regulated but it's been overly regulated.

>>82903869
Nick Fuentes.
>inb4 lol who cares your a cringe nazi fuck you let me take your money.

>>82903875
Correlation doesn't equal causation this makes no sense as an analogy.

>>82903805
>How can you look at the middle east and still say "I am still too oppressed for being gay or showing people I am gay?"
So you can't complain if there's a country who has it worse?
Simple, I grew up in a conservative household. I suffered violence and later homelessness for being gay. This is the reality of thousands of queer children that you ignore. The oppression is real even if it's worse in the middle east.
The school should be a safe place for them like it wasn't for both of us, but you don't want that. You want to silence queer voices in school like yours was silenced.

>>82903893
You know what that also means? Race matters people matter and are different nations and ideologies and your roots matter. But naaaaah just make America India or Africa or Brazil because they are all good people guys we need to help them.

>>82903925
>this makes no sense as an analogy.
Are you dumb? People hated an innocuous minority that was a natural occurrence in society for centuries out of religious bigotry.
This is both true for homos and left handed people.
When these groups are accepted, their numbers rise and then plateau

>>82903944
So racism is the reason why you hold bigoted views against queer children and their access to inclusive education?
I'm just glad you dropped the liberal facade

>>82903925
>You don't control what makes your cock hard
And what makes your cock hard defines your sexuality regardless if you act upon it or not. A straight celibate is still straight. Why are you even talking about that? Are you literally a gay celibate my dude? That would explain everything

>>82902482
the results are
>the device you're using to post
>the language you're typing
>the safe place where you're posting from
none of this would exist without the basic social morals christianity introduced

>>82903925
It's not "state enforced" homosexuality to teach children to respect minorities
>Want freedom to hate
>Literally part of a hated minority
Lacking in self preservation, as most pick mes.

>>82903950
>Pretends not to understand
Classic. I give up bruh you won. You rage baited so I quit or maybe you were being good fait but I am getting tired

>You're just racist
You need to grow up and really understand what that means. If you say people matter and are so empathic for the down trodden then you must accept racism as a fundamental of reality and why it might be a good thing or important.

>>82903965
Christianity was a hindrance to the advancement of technology and literacy, not a proponent. Church hoarded knowledge, monopolized education and completely sabotaged intellectualism for centuries. It completely screwed western civilization over, and there's a reason why our enlightenment was leaving church behind

>>82903969
I understand what it means, perfectly. You have lots of bigoted views, no liberal opinion whatsoever, and I blame your conservative upbringing making you feel like your race is more important than your sexuality.
As a result, you want gay children to experience the same fate, even if it turned you into a celibate

>>82903944
the irony of you saying you don't want to see your country turned into Brazil, to a brazilian, is lost on you.

>>82903977
>Keep ignoring the good aspects
Can you even say anything "good" about it or just keep denying it entirely lol?

>Gays spread disease and groom children guess we should just kill them all
This is literally the same thing for people who hate religion.

>>82903925
Being a nazi is a crime in my country, here Nick would get prison time, not financial gaslighting. As it should be.
Tolerance should not tolerate hate nor intolerance.

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>>82903998
>the good aspects
I love how even 500 years ago in times of complete and total christian domination, different christian sects couldn't stop hating and killing each other by the millions

>gay chud
>look inside
>racist and sympathetic to nazis
Every fucking time

>>82904000
Fuck you and your trips nigga you want power and control that is the problem.

>I want freedom and representation

>Noooo not for that guy hes racist and mean on the internet

>Even with zero power and only opinions

You niggas do not have fundamental principles about ANYTHING. Your values constantly conflict.

>>82904021
Kinda based yeah. How accepting and tolerate of me wow.

>>82904023
We want freedom from hate
You want freedom to hate
You're as liberal as I'm conservative. We are not the same.
This is why you are a celibate

>>82902302
Christianity was weak and was dismantled by feminism. Islam won't make the same mistake.

>>82904023
>zero power
He has a huge following, that means power over his crowd. All he does is call to violence with euphemisms.

>>82904033
>Tolerate my hatred and intolerance
Not how this works. Remember who started ww2 and who finished it

>>82904059
>All he does is call to violence with euphemisms.
Nah that's Hassan but good try man.

Oh yeah btw I wouldn't ban Hassan but you would to Nick that is the fundamental value and principled difference.

>>82904023
>>Noooo not for that guy hes racist
Based. No mercy for racists and nazis.

>>82904078
Nah that's the one literally defending nazism
>I wouldn't ban harmless streamer who doesn't commit any crime
Lol what would you ban him for? Nick is actually a criminal in the 50 countries where nazi apologetics is illegal.
The fundamental difference is: you are on the side of hatred, not freedom

>>82904078
You would ban gay children from discussing their lives openly in school. You're not in for freedom

>>82904069
I don't really care you wanna know why? Because everyone is lying to you and me. If anons wanna claim that Christianity or religions as a whole are psyops and bad copes then I will do the same for narratives before the internet existed and I didn't experience. Literally no one wants to be good faith here. Idc if I am getting rage baited but I am trying to compromise on stuff it's just never enough with these give an inch and they want a mile types of people.

>>82903015
>You just want queer kids to be queer in the silence and darkness of their own minds.
Yes. I don't need a constant reminder aids exist.

>>82904093
Ok now the bait is getting more obvious or you are that dumb.

>holocaust denial illegal and bad ban and arrest
Actually a great litmus test if you could survive in a free marketplace of ideas. Why even be on here there's nazi everywhere? Why don't you go kill them or gain the power to ban them for being mean?

>>82904106
Compromise on what? Not on anything that matters, not your racism, your caustic belief that respect for minorities should stay off school's curriculum (sending a clear message to gay kids), your borderline self hating belief that gay is nurture and not nature, and to make it all worse, your blatant defense of literal nazi apologetics.
You have always been a self hating gay celibate and you should focus on compromising that

>>82902104
The gb are cool but the L, T, and + are abominably terrible to be around.

>>82904122
They are already banned in my country
You should ask yourself why you, a homosexual, found yourself defending bigotry fervently when your life depends on the end of bigotry
>A celibate
Oh that explains it all

>>82904093
It isn't defending anything other than letting people speak their minds. What would you ban people for if you were in charge of a social media platform?

For me
>Explicit calls to violence
>Doxing
I'm sure there's other but these seem reasonable. By these rules Hassan would be banned. Go ahead and give me a clip of Nick explicitly calling for violence I'll wait. Hassan can endorse terrorist though and say a senator should be killed that's just fine ah ok.

>>82904144
Too bad for you I wish it wasn't because that's not fair. Oh kill me btw for wanting free speech for you. Btw I've had sex with both men and women so you can stop with the excuse.

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>>82904155
>isn't defending anything other than letting people speak their minds
>His mind
Hate and intolerance can't be tolerated otherwise they will destroy the peace like it happened in 39.
Hate speech should be censored in any society worth living.
Unlimited freedom is a bad argument for defending hateful opinions

>>82904123
None of that is true and everyone in this thread will see that. You literally need to re read word by word what my beliefs and values are because I keep repeating them openly.

>>82904175
>It's not fair that the hateful nazis be censored
What isn't fair is nazis being free to spread their hate. You don't want free speech for us, you want free speech for people who want to condemn and hate minorities. Your views are entirely self destructive, as it's expected from a celibate
>I've had sex
Biggest lie you've told itt

>>82904185
Yes it can. Answer the fucking question then if you think being mean on the internet must mean you have to be censored or punished by law.

>What rules would you make?
>Is that also fair to me and what I can about?

>>82904199
>You're lying
Well if you wanna keep thinking that then we can't actually have a productive conversation now can we?

>>82904155
>Give me a clip of nick
Okay sure
>Fuentes complained on a July, 2023 stream clipped by Media Matters about supposedly seeing a Black man litter in his neighborhood, saying that if Hitler were alive, he would have teamed up with him to kill the man.

>"It's always Black people. ... This is in my neighborhood," Fuentes said. "I'm supposed to be mad at Hitler? I'm supposed to be cross with Hitler? I want this guy dead. And I wish Hitler would kill him. I wish Hitler would have killed him, you know? ... That guy should be KILLED! That guy should be killed for that. That guy should be dragged from his car and beaten to death by the public. ... If I was in a room with Hitler and that guy, me and Hitler would team up and fuck that guy up! We would kill that guy! ... And we'd high-five at the end."

>>82904217
>Incel opinions on incel board
>Gay and self hatred
Like you said you were a liberal back then, it's just another one of your lies. You're a gay incel, bruh. It's obvious. Are you ashamed?

>>82904208
Hate speech should be punished and censored by the law
It is actually like that already in most developed countries.

>>82904190
You are merely being disingenuous, you already voiced these opinions here. It started as your opposition to kids being taught to respect minorities in school calling it a "state mandated homosexuality" and it went all the way to you defending nazis online. It's pretty much obvious. Be less of a snake.

>>82904230
Ok? Fuck people who litter who cares? He is obviously being hyperbolic but once again people like you cannot differentiate if someone is being serious or not. Also yes I would rather be in a room with Hitler than a person that decides to throw their trash on the ground instead of finding a public trash can or something and put the trash in the proper place. Arabs in my neighborhood in their apartment complexes constatly leave their shit everywhere. Trash or stuff like bikes on the front lawn. You know what's nice though having high trust here. Shit doesn't get stolen but trash gets left everywhere it's sill bad.

>waaah waah personal accountability is racist how dare you not like me for littering.

>>82904255
You cannot give a decent explanation as to why. Banning hate speech is just cringe.

>>82904268
I am applying the same rules to different situations or contexts that are similar. You also are now offended because I refenced a Sam Hyde meme and I have explicitly stated I don't hate gay people. You keep ignoring it every time I say that or assume I am being bad faith when you will give no ground.

>give inch take a mile.

>>82904275
>Go ahead and give me a clip of Nick explicitly calling for violence
Okay here it is
...
>so what he explicitly called for violence?

Lmao, and this is the person claiming to be arguing in good faith, jumping through hoops to say that nick Fuentes praising hitler like that is actually a good thing.
So much for a liberal

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>>82904294
>a decent explanation as to why
Because hate spreads like wildfire and hatred breeds more hatred in a "resentment cycle" that you yourself talked about earlier

>>82904275
>what does it take for you to side with Hitler?
>Littering
Man you were too close to the edge already

>>82904275
So nick is being hyperbolic but hasan was being literal?
The intellectual consistency of a conservative

>>82904312
Should I ban Hassan for praising leftist authoritarians or other psychotic mass murdering historical figures? What's different is him openly supporting terrorist that are active right now or calling for the death of a person who is currently alive.

Good recent example would be Charlie Kirk and the reaction to it.

>Omg what a hero thanks for killing that guy
vs
>Kill that guy he is a mean nazi (while he is literally still alive)

1 I would not ban 2 I would. Does this not make sense?

>>82904336
Who admits more when they have done something wrong and apologizes? Who has been punished more severely for a similar mistake?

>>82904294
>Incel obsessed with nick Fuentes and sam hyde
Can you be any more of a stereotypical chud? Damn bro you nailed every checklist.
And to think you called yourself a liberal, lmao. In what world
>Don't gate gay people
Yeah, you just hate being one as you admitted earlier. Self hate and being a chud go hand in hand

>>82904343
Should you be less disingenuous and still try to defend the incel nazi preacher even when you asked for evidence of him calling for violence and got what you asked for?

>>82904319
Just let people fucking talk man like me you are now it's not that hard. I guess i need to be imprisoned now because I was edgy or offense to you or had wrong think online. Is that really how you want things to be?

>>82904354
Who's the one praising hitler and natsoc? Who's the one who actually has hateful opinions on minorities of all sorts?
Who's the one who called for violence? Who's the one who wants to ban homosexuality?

>>82904388
People can talk alright. Influencers who make a public spectacle out of their deeply hateful opinions shouldn't be given a platform to perform on.

>>82904343
Because the 20 thousand palestinian children Israel bombed are not terrorists and hasan's support is for them, not for anyone else.
Keep defending genocide, it's very on brand for a chud. Nailing every stereotype down.

>>82904366
My point isn't hating oneself for being gay or somehow that is justified it just shouldn't be seen as normal or treated as such or imposed on children. This is not oppressive they still deserve basic human decency but not more "privilege" They fucking have it man and it's been an over abundance that's why people have been pushing so hard back against it in the public sphere.

You wanna know what people are thinking?

>Wow finally I can be based on twitter
It's literally that it doesn't matter if they are correct or not it's that they can finally speak openly in the public square. They are allowed to make fools of themselves if that is the case. That's why I and many have wanted for a long time just on the internet.

>>82904403
Then we will have to fundamentally disagree on that. You want to be a Karen and enforce too many rules on speech I don't. That is more important in my view.

>>82904376
If he really meant it then yeah that's bad. I am not a fucking mind reader.

>Why is support for someone like mao not banned on Twitch but Hitler would be?

>Oh no that's a no no topic we can't let you talk about it.
It is simply not fair.

>>82904433
>shouldn't be seen as normal or treated as normal
Do you honestly expect to tell this to a gay child and their reaction to be anything other than self hatred? You are literally calling them abnormalities who shouldn't be treated the same as heterosexuals.
In what world isn't that a homophobic worldview?
>Imposed
Except nothing is imposed on children, you are once more doing the only thing you've done in this entire thread: used euphemisms to allude to your narrative that gays are grooming children.
In reality, gay children are struggling in school and you want them to "figure it out alone" which is the same of saying you want them hating themselves just like you did

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You can't be right-wing and homophobic...

>>82904419
I agree it's a fucking tragedy and in no way am I defending that just because I bring up Hassan but don't act like they don't do bad shit either if you really care about them being oppressed. I am pointing out a fundamental difference of enforcement of rules between them because it is a good example for how I am explaining my problem here.

>>82904477
>not a fucking mind reader.
You don't have to, he spelled his hate out for you with all the letters, and you still found a way to defend him as if he was "merely joking". Meanwhile hasan calling out on genocide bothers you
You are such a chud it's unbelievable that you called yourself a liberal. What a fucking snake.

>>82904500
>don't act like they don't do bad shit either
The children didn't do anything and paid the price with their blood.
What you are doing now is something called "victim blaming" another key point of conservative chuds.
Hasan speaks to defend children being genocided in the desert
Nick speaks to praise hitler and hate minorities
This comparison only goes to show how delusional and detached you are, literally brainwashed by the "freedom lovin'" right wing who only evoke their freedom to hate others.

>>82904447
Hate speech must be illegal to preserve democracy and peace. People who cherish hate speech are against both of those, and it's not a coincidence that the free America has a warmongering proto dictator in power now.

>>82904433
>This is not oppressive
It is actually, you are literally saying they shouldn't be treated as normal, which they are because being gay is normal. Gayness is part of normality including gay children.
Gay children don't have any privileges, they suffer in school, in church, in conservative households, where they have to face the scorn and contempt of people who think just like you.
And you want to silence their voices in school

>>82904490
Why treat them the same as heteros if they are not heteros? As I said basic decency but not normalization or celebration or pride stuff.

>Except nothing is imposed on children, you are once more doing the only thing you've done in this entire thread: used euphemisms to allude to your narrative that gays are grooming children.
In reality, gay children are struggling in school and you want them to "figure it out alone" which is the same of saying you want them hating themselves just like you did
Accept I did figure it out though I just can recognize difference and treat people according to the difference you can't and have been doing this the whole thread. I am accepted and loved and my family and friends know I am bisexual. What's the issue here? They never fucked with me or made me think I was inferior for being this way. Anything that has influenced my view on this topic has not me believe I am or other gays are inherently inferior. You refuse to listen that I I do not hate them. Stop throwing that word around like it's obvious you know what someone hates. Differentiation doesn't equal hate

>>82904530
Ok well if you have freedom to hate but don't over police people then how is that bad? I don't think you are understanding where my resentment for this topic about speech comes from because you have not experienced it. Keep going to your pride parades and being prideful I'm sure that delusion is healthy totally man.

>>82904541
Ok bro then make the laws since it seems so easy for you to KNOW what hate speech is. You do not know what it is and why it is good to have. We cannot even have this conversation in some places. How would that be good?

>>82904601
Keep being a celibate who hates being gay. You want freedom to hate others, a terrible misuse of freedom. Totally self destructive for a minority.
Hate speech will lead to hate actions

>>82904567
What I WANT is less normalization and pride about it. I want acceptance and compromise too but it's gone to far that is the issue. I really don't think I am over correcting here.

>>82904640
My country actually has these laws already, and starts where any hate speech laws ought yo start: banning nazis from the public sphere. You don't deserve a platform to spread your hatred.

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>>82904659
Normalization is the only hope a gay kid has of being in good terms with their non standard sexuality. Normalization is what got us rights.
What you want is to return to a past where gays had it worse. Your worldviews are completely self destructive. It comes from a place of deep resentment, not self acceptance.

>>82904659
Acceptance hasn't gone far enough since queer children still struggle, and you want to see them struggle more.
What you want is a world where nazi apologists like you and your idols have it easier to hate.

>>82904661
>You don't deserve a platform to spread your hatred.
I think you do.

>You hate me im evil nazi yada yada.
>Oh shit I have power now I guess I better ban or kill you
Do you not see the endpoint of this logic. You cannot expect to be so over policing of speech towards people that actually care about it and is a very important value to them then not expect and harsh backlash when you decide to finger wag them at every opportunity. How is that fair to them? All you want is control.

>>82904694
>Wants freedom to hate
>Self hating homosexual chud
>Also an incel
Makes sense.

>>82904694
Your freedom stops at being a nazi but you crossed that point already.
To you, holding these hateful opinions is more important than being free to be gay.
You only think like that because you don't have a bf

>>82904703
>personal attack.
>says I'm not being good faith.
>repeat.
K bruh. Maybe read what I say and stop with that idk what to tell you. I am not self hating about being gay I have bigger problems than that.

>>82904719
>your freedom stops at being a communist.
>see mom I did the thing.

>>82904570
>Why treat them the same as heteros if they are not heteros? As I said basic decency but not normalization
So just treat them as second class citizens. Is that how you were treated back in school?
Not one homosexual with a shred of dignity would fall for such a slave mentality.
Queer children deserve so much better than what you're willing to give them (nothing but self hatred)

>>82904570
>did figure it out though
>Still self hating gay chud vouching for nazis
You are so far behind in the figuring it out process, you still think we deserve second class treatment.
You may be loved by your family, but you haven't learned to love yourself that much.
You said it yourself: caught in a cycle of deep resentment

>>82904739
No we don't need some cringe caste system enforcement but you keep wanting to to word in my mouth.

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>>82904735
What are the inherently evil tenants of communism?
Because the evil tenants of nazism start with hating minorities and end there too.

>>82904754
How about point out or share your self hatred or flaws or resentment then to breed understanding of perspective? Oh I'm an evil nazi so I guess we can't compromise. Ban me and kill me then I guess that's too bad.

>>82904766
When you say gay people shouldn't be normalized nor treated equally as straight people, you are being disingenuous and using euphemisms to say that you want gay people being lesser
But you're not being honest about anything itt, you were the person who called himself a liberal and defended Fuentes hitler quotes 10 minutes later

>>82904784
>Ban me
It's what you want to do to the gay people you deem "prideful" or "differentiated"
Banning is what you want to do to LGBT inclusive education in school.
Banned is what you want christian businesses to do to gay couples
You only evoke your freedom when you want to hate minorities

>>82904774
> the evil tenants of nazism start with hating minorities and end there too.

Lol no. By this logic then why haven't we killed all black people? Why don't we kill ourselves because humans are evil?

>AH FINALLY I figured it out humans are evil so if we kill humans then we defeat the evil.
Endpoint of your logic. You do not like or want to acknowledge fundamental differences and how to operate to them accordingly even if you claim to really care about minorities or gays. Oh by the way I am mixed so where are my gibs and entitlements because I am oprpssed and I have brown skin. You are actually more harmful.

>>82904720
Mate the biggest gripe with self hate you have is about being gay. You're a gay chud after all. Why are you ashamed of being a celibate? It's like you know it's bad.
Well resolved, self accepting gay people don't speak against normalization of gay people, nor do they defend nazi apologists who literally have spoken to outlaw homosexuality before

>>82904786
Why can't you be both.

>I listen to him so I must agree with his fundamentals in their entirety now I am evil.

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>>82904814
No the rules aren't applied fairly that is the point. How much do you hate straight white men?

>>82904829
re read >>82904175 Oh I forgot I am being bad faith and lying so now theres no point.

>>82904849
This is fun actually I wish some anons would hop in. Does no one disagree with me or him common guys? You fucking faggots just wanna watch.

>>82902442
That all started to happing after Vatican 2 when the church got ultra cucked out, because they allied with the axis. After Vatican 2 the church was not allowed to throw out member who they suspected of being homosexuals. Anyways there is way more sexual abuse going on in public school than the Catholic Church.

>>82904829
What's wrong you fucking faggot usually you've been replying consistently? Did I hit a nerve with this post >>82904827?

>>82902104
L.G.B.T.
Let's Groom the Boys into Trannies

>>82904814
homosexuals are not a minority, they're an issue.

>>82902104
Having LGBT brainwashing forced on us in school made me despise homos and leftoids.