Biologically it's because you served your purpose, you helped them reproduce and for max genetic fitness they should do the same with other women. Realistically it's because you're dating a convict with 3 baby mommas and 5 felonies, what did you expect?

>>82927962
Because women stop having sex and expect the man to be happy with it

Nobody here knows. They haven't had children.

>>82927975
Even men who acted like good people before the child can act like this, I've seen it firsthand, genuinely sad.
>>82927977
It's high recommend for women not to have sex for 6 weeks after their birth, and the actual time it takes to heal their uterus and get their body rearranged and working as normal is 8+ weeks.. I don't think a lot of men understand the physical and mental toll pregnancy and birth puts on women.
>>82927982
Some people on here definitely have

>>82928004
even once you have physically healed you are not going to be having sex as often with a baby to take care of, you will be too tired often. Lots of time women get fat after they've had a baby as well.

>>82928004
>It's high recommend for women not to have sex for 6 weeks after their birth, and the actual time it takes to heal their uterus and get their body rearranged and working as normal is 8+ weeks.. I don't think a lot of men understand the physical and mental toll pregnancy and birth puts on women.
Does the bitch not have a mouth? Goddamn women are useless, y'all hate sex so much

>>82927962
I'm not sure, if a girl carried my baby i think that would only multiply my love for her, my own dad became neurotic and alcoholic after i was born so i experienced it first hand, i find it crazy that some people can just hate their kids and wife, do they not see the magic that it is for you and someone else to have made a little thing that's a bit of you both?

>>82928014
If both parents are doing their part I'd expect them both to be tired, it's a regular experience of being a parent.
>>82928020
I never understood why some men put such a huge emphasis on sex, especially right after their wives give birth, like, she's just birthed your baby after a long 9 months of sacrificing her body and nutrients to create said baby, tired, hormones still all over the place, she has to breastfeed and watch over the baby, and all they care about it sex..???

>>82928021
It's actually refreshing to hear a normal person's take on this, I also find it crazy that some men can just act like that after their wife has given birth, I'm genuinely convinced they don't have a soul

>>82928031
men still have needs, fuck at least give him a handjob.

>>82928031
Consistent and regular sex is important for a relationship to thrive. You literally release hormones during it that help keep the love strong. The only reason to refuse sex is if you don't love the person. Of course women usually aren't all that loving.

>>82928055
>>82928057
Are there people that actually unironically think like this??

>>82928051
I'm far from normal but thanks, i think the cultural shift we've had globally towards promiscuity contributes to this a lot, both for men and women, in this case mostly men though, if you're not having sex all the time you're a social failure, add that up along with a already higher libido than most women have and i guess you get resentment from being celibate, mainly brainwashed normies who just want to follow the current cultural thing, wich obviously isn't a excuse for the behavior but the only rationalization i can get, wanting to fuck your wife after she pushed out a basketball sized child out of her lady bits is crazy though

>>82928067
It's just truth and based in science. People who aren't this way are going to have garbage relationships and will get left by their wives for more assertive men

>>82928067
Yes but since they're here it's clear why they don't have women in their lives. That thinking is old school and by and large being weeded out of the male population. If your bf or husband does act like that you need to rethink your relationship with him or have a very long talk and get to the bottom of things.

>>82928079
Can you please Bluetooth this mentality to everyone else?
>>82928082
So what you're telling me is that you'd want your wife, who just pushed out a child out of her vagina and is still wounded, bleeding, and experiencing bowel problems, to have unenthusiastic sex with you despite how much pain or discomfort she is in- instead of maybe trying to comfort and help her heal throughout her postpartum and then have sex with her in which she is healthy and happy and does not resent you because you didn't pressure and force her??
>>82928087
It's just bothersome that there are people like that who think like that and we are all forced to live with them

>>82928120
the incels here believe worse stuff than this. Don't worry about them. Most of them are just trying to be edgy anyway.

>>82928120
sadly i can't control minds, if i could i'd make everyone send me a dollar directly to my bank account

>>82927975
Watching the 20 year old at work literally ignore every good man that walks in her life and only exclusively date fucking insane felons is so intriguing.

Why are women like this, she's smart and somewhat selfie aware too, I think she genuinely doesn't think she's good enough for good men and let's herself be used by shitty men because it's what she deserves? Idk

>>82928129
that's fucking rude, just because i haven't put my peener in a bagina doesn't mean i'm automatically evil and want to force myself on my post partum wife, fuck you foid

>>82928004
My dad was apparently my mom's best friend and lover until he got her pregnant, then he disappeared.

I guess it's true

>>82928139
pussy tingles, right now she craves raw masculinity and excitement. As she nears the wall she settle for a beta who won't do these things but she will never truly want him sexually.

>>82928129
Honestly what did I expect?
>>82928130
True
>>82928146
Also brings me to the question of why it's so much easier for men to just suddenly run out on their children. Do they have no paternal bond with them or..??

>>82928143
You can be a male virgin without being an incel, incels by definition hate women and would do such a thing.

>>82928164
Incel means involuntarily celibate foid, wich i am because i haven't found a girl to marry yet

>>82928031
i will never understand why women hate sex and penis. if you're a woman who hates sex and penis you should unironically kys because you're biologically worthless.

>>82928158
my dad ran out on me when I was 2, wasn't in my life again until I was an adult. I asked him and he said he wasn't ready to settle down and be a husband and father yet. Still wanted to party and fuck other girls. He was a young father though (23 when I was born) so that may have played a role. It didn't help he never really loved my mom and was pretty open about the fact that I was the result of a broken condom.

>>82928158
I think some human beings are genuinely soulless husks or they're inhabited by demons.

I've been hurt a lot by women so I became sorta hatey for awhile, but men are if not worse, I just never experience it because I only talk to girls in the way that brings out our worst sides.

I've never seen my dad, never met my dad, it's made me want me to be a better man than he ever will be but I don't think I'll ever have children because it's so much for my partner to go through and I've never met anyone that is willing is put themselves through that for me.

>>82928031
>If both parents are doing their part I'd expect them both to be tired, it's a regular experience of being a parent.
Although true, you can still be upset when she's mad at you for stupid reasons because of pregnancy hormones, or postpartum hormones, or when she's finally back to normal menarche hormones... holy shit women we get it you have ups and downs don't take it out on us.
Also bad mood due to sleeping problems with newborn baby.

The main issue though, is the societal expectations on men vs women. "Be nice to her pregnancy is hard on a woman ;("
Okay, true, however, after a year of being emotional and hormonal, no one ever tells the woman to try to be nice / make up her behavior to the man. Men have emotions too. We understand the baby comes first but we still want to be up there in the list instead of being taken for granted. Yeah you're doing work for "our" kid but it's also your kid so it's expected. Don't neglect the role of wife entirely for the role of mother, or the man will naturally reciprocate with husband/father roles.

>>82928212
Dude like, i have a dick, but are you really comparing carrying around a watermelon inside your belly for 9 months, having to go through labor and push it out of your coochie wich more often than not tear the separation between the vagina and anus with "women get snarky during pregnancy"?
>>82928188
>>82928158
i'm the alcoholic dad guy, he abandoned 5 other kids before he decided to stay to raise me for some reason, some people are just like that

>>82928212
If you're over 20 and haven't figured out that men are supposed to handle unfair shit and double standards.

We just have to deal with that our emotional needs will NEVER be met by women. That's why you have a male best friend

>>82928188
You said young father as if he was an underage teenager or 18-19.
>>82928200
You seem like a genuinely good person and I wish nothing but good things for you and I hope you get whatever you want.
>>82928212
I get this but then again after a year the woman usually is the one doing most of the child work so of course she is going to be mean and overstimulated sometimes.
>>82928226
I genuinely want to study your father's brain after he dies

>>82928259
He might have been 23 but he was still a teenager mentally. Only cares about getting drunk/high and fucking. Should be known he did pay child support for what it was worth so he wasn't a total scumbag.

>>82928259
I've already cried once tonight, I don't need to cry again because that's the 2367743th I've heard that and I still am depressed

I constantly think about, well they tortured Jesus to death and he was supposedly God, so there's no hope for anything good to survive

>>82928259
yeah so do i, this caused me to never meet most of my half siblings because 3 out of 5 hated me for that and wanted to kill me, my dad later did try to kill me with a knife when i turned 18 so maybe they lucked out? idk, i don't wanna badmouth him too much because he did teach me some things about being a man i still carry to this day, i'm not really sure honestly, my relationship with my dad wasn't the best but badmouthing him feels unfair

>>82927962
You got nutted in RAW by an abusechad. Why would he stay with you when he can move on to the next girl who hasn't had her body permanently destroyed by pregnancy?

>>82928226
It's not just snarkiness, don't be obtuse.
Men are fed the idea now that women are supposed to be partners instead of dependents.
Then fucking act like it.
If pregnancy is the woman's burden, then protection is the man's. Sure, that can be "take care of her when pregnant" and also in general from external threats, but if men are supposed to be "grateful" for what women go though during pregnancy (which is just as much for her sake as it is his), then women should be "grateful" to the man for caring for her during pregnancy.
So yeah, show gratitude. Most women today find this concept alien.
If the woman is only meant to be a warm flesh incubator for the child and ignore the man's feelings, then why bother having women after artificial womb technology progresses?
>Plastic pouches and toys can't love you!
Neither can most women nowadays it seems, at least the plastic won't self destruct and attempt to run off with half your shit.
But I'm getting ahead of myself here, the question was "why do men get distant", and the answer is "(usually, though not always) as a response to women getting distant".

Again, if the woman stops acting as a wife, don't be surprised when the man stops acting as a husband.

>>82928266
Seems like a pointless life he was living ngl
>>82928277
Why were you crying anon?

>>82928304
I mean, while i can understand where you're coming from, i don't wanna believe relationships nowadays boil down to "i provide and protect and you let me fuck you and bear kids and do the housework" if a girl is always a terrible person and puts no effort into the relationship then yeah just leave, but if she is having a momment of vulnerability and a lapse during the pregnancy and post partum it'd just feel shitty to me to hold her responsible for that

>>82928284
Your dad sounds like a psychopath
>>82928300
Idiotic way of thinking btw

>>82928317
>i don't wanna believe
It's going to be true with or without you believing it.
>>82928321
>Idiotic way of thinking btw
You're right, there are no single mothers on dating apps looking for a good man to step up and raise her baby.

>>82928259
>I get this but then again after a year the woman usually is the one doing most of the child work so of course she is going to be mean and overstimulated sometimes.
Yeah and after that year "the man is doing all the financial work so of course he's going to be mean and overstimulated sometimes". Doesn't really translate that well does it?
Do you have any idea how stressful it can be knowing you are the only thing standing between your family and the streets? How it feels knowing a single fuck up at work may lead to not only your child going hungry but your wife leaving you because you failed the role of provider? Ironically the woman doesn't even fear this role failure because even if she completely sucks at being a -mother- that's usually not a reason for the guy to leave.

Again, I'm not saying men or women have it harder or easier than the other. Simply that society sees fit to elevate the plight of the mother at the expense of the plight of the father.
They're both important and have their own challenges.

>>82928313
There's constantly a voice in my head telling me I'm stupid and worthless and ugly and awful and no one actually likes me.

I was reading this thread and thought about how old my dad was when he abandoned me, he was a grown man, not in his early 20s and still a kid.

He made the extremely conscious decision to pretend like I don't exist. It hurts still and I wish it didn't

>>82927962
Because it's the most cucked thing a woman can do and they don't respect cucks
Like what did they expect after ruining their health for some man, for him not to cheat on them with healthier prettier girls who have no baggage of cuckoldry?

>>82928021
Troon hands typed this
Real men don't word stuff like this

>>82928321
idk what goes through his head honestly, could very well be
>>82928337
don't say that foid or moid, i like you and i want you here, children don't get to choose their parents but you get to choose your friends and family, we're all a big family here in r9k even if we get a little racist, nazi or mysoginist sometimes

>>82928342
I could not care less if you think i'm a troon or not, if you want me to care about your opinion on my sexuality try knife fighting your father once or twice

>>82928326
That's nice, anon
>>82928328
It's generally normal for both parents to be overstimulated and sometimes even a little mean as long as they both communicate to each other. My question was targeting men who are repeatedly unjustifiably mean and cruel towards the women who give birth to their children yet you took it, created a separate scenario in your head, and ran with it

>>82928317
>and a lapse during the pregnancy and post partum it'd just feel shitty to me to hold her responsible for that
Define "a lapse". Men are still (somewhat) rational creatures. A night of bad sleep because the baby's kicking, of course. But when the ill behavior is all day? For months? Years? At what point does the woman's behavior become her own responsibility instead of being hand waved away?
Is the man allowed to come home and be mean to his wife because of a bad day at the office? Most people say no.

If the woman is to be man's equal, she must hold herself accountable as he does himself.
If you wish to give the woman leeway, and thus make her man's dependant, than like a child they must be met with a firm hand when they step out of line.
The choice is theirs.

>>82928337
Anon you seem pretty cool and nice to me, I'm sorry all that happened in your life and I wish I could fix it because good people don't deserve to suffer
>>82928338
Okay
>>82928347
Did your dad never get arrested? He was just allowed to walk free?

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>>82928347
I'm a moid with foid brain because I was raised by women.

I come to this board because it feels homey, like I'm with all my other reject friends. I look attractive enough and mask well enough in public to have a normie social life, but it's extremely draining and I feel more comfortable with weirdos like us here

>>82928356
>who are repeatedly unjustifiably mean and cruel towards the women
If it wasn't obvious, or maybe I worded it poorly as I have a headache, my stance is that most men's behavior towards their woman is not unsatisfiable or cruel. Some, sure. Most, no.
If you partner isn't being nice to you, it's probably your fault first.

this must be an american thing
in my country the men become basically the woman's slaves once they give birth
they also talk about the baby constantly at work because they're proud and happy about it
similar thing happens when they become a granddad to a lesser extent

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>Good sex
>Good husband
You can only have one.

>>82928367
I think a 6 month grace period after birth is fair enough if too little even, i helped raise my little cousin and while i love her she was a difficult baby, even now at 5 she is, my aunt needed to quit her job as a nurse and the help of all the family to raise her, only reason her husband didn't quit also was because someone needed to work
>>82928369
No he is free, while we did kind of go at it twice neither of us killed each other so like, fair enough to me, not the first time or second time someone tried to kill me, just sucked that it was my dad
>>82928373
Well, i appreciate you being here bro, life is just unfair to most in one way or another

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>>82928369
Good people are meant to suffer

>>82928403
>>82928369
sometimes i wish r9k had a chat place or something, lots of nice people i stumble upon once and never meet again, kind of like those old real time chat sites that existed in 2012

>>82928384
Wow okay
>>82928387
What country is this?
>>82928390
That's not really how it works though
>>82928392
>not the first of second time someone tried to kill me
? Anon what the hell?? Your life just sounds like a nightmare. Are you allowed happiness at all?

>>82928403
No
>>82928411
The closest you can get to that is emailing or whatever social apps they have out there

>>82927962
Because kids are draining and stressful and the wife being drained and stressed doesn't make things better either. They are also mourning their sex lives. I'm sure you're not as friendly when tired.

>>82928417
I mean like, as bad as it sounds murder attempts aren't really all that traumatizing atleast to me, like, people tried to kill me but they didn't manage to so it's all fine kind of? i'm pretty fucked up mentally but not sure that plays a big factor into it and no, not much happiness for me, i do have my momments i guess but life is hard, i'm trying to work hard so i can get married and have kids but that doesn't seem very likely wich kind of makes me despair a little when i think about it, doesn't help that i'm old as fuck and running out of time to do what i need being 19

>>82928417
>What country is this?
finland
>>82928411
checked
knowing zoomers it'd probably be on discord *barf*
we need IRC
>no accounts
>no stupid profiles and other social junk
>works as a normie filter
>no censorship

>>82928428
I know, it just sucks a little, you guys feel like my family even though i don't even know your names, but most of the time it's just ragebait posts and porn here nowadays, threads where i enjoy talking with people are getting rarer and rarer

>>82928411
I'm always here. I tried adding someone from here once on discord and that didn't work out.

I'm terrible at keeping up with people now at this point, I barely even talk to the people I love in my life

but I'll add you on discord if you want

>>82928441
I use discord only for gaming since for some reason all the game communities are there, but it doesn't really scratch the itch those small real time online chats had

>>82928446
I have a burner on matrix.org i made to add someone here if you wanna talk, but no pressure, no need to feel pressured to add me just for the sake of it, i'm happy with you guys just being here

>>82928448
it's because they have all kind of junk like images, videos, voice etc.
in the small chatrooms of the past you had to learn to know people solely through their words
every development since IRC has only worked to undermine the chatting aspect
for example accounts, >>82928455 having to have a burner just for a chat means there never is a anonymous off the cuff chat
if you want to make a chat for channers it should be IRC

>>82928476
I doubt the era of anonymous small chats will ever come back, even less likely now with governments world wide trying to push for digital id and face scans to just access basic internet

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>>82928392
>I think a 6 month grace period after birth is fair
Does he think that?

You were fucking the hottest guy you could find. He has no respect for women, because he's never faced real consequences for disrespecting them, because at the end of the day, they need his cock/money.

So he doesn't care about what you think because he's got 100 other bitches he can access in under 5 minutes with his phone.

Don't worry, a betalord will salvage things for you. It will be an "open relationship" because he will not be satisfying you sexually. So your baby-daddy will technically still be having sex with you after 6 months.

>>82928139
>I think she thinks
Don't assume what she's thinking or why she does what she does.
It's because women are programmed to be literal horny sex demon retards who are driven purely by dangerous men who rape and beat them due to tens of thousands of years of evolution.
They have no impulse control and no way of thinking about future consequences. It's just how they are.
It sucks because maybe less than 5% of women aren't like this but those ones don't reproduce enough to alter the gene pool in any significant way.

>>82928494
they're still there
there is no reason why people couldn't just join them
it's not like us robots need to use the same platform as normies, actually better to separate so they don't invade
i can accept that normies could never switch back, they like their stickers, embeds etc. too much
govts trying to push for digital ids is actually a good reason to go on irc, those still on it would never accept such overreach

>>82928517
I'm a guy anon, last i checked i can't get pregnant and i'm not really looking to get plowed by chad

>>82928522
Right. You're the betabux.
Thanks for the paychecks. You're a good provider :)

>>82928536
I don't date non virgins, good one though

>>82927962
im not even for a microsecond trying to raise another mans kid
and i think that single moms are disgusting and nasty

>>82928540
You don't date at all, kid :)

>>82928575
Reread the post, anon.