I'm a decent looking 36yo imbel (incel but for no reason). I don't care if you believe that or not. ITT you tell me how to end this.I've tried online dating and going outdoors for every single activity or hobby available in my city, but I haven't met a new chick since my 20's.10 years ago I could pick up chicks online easily and you guys say it changed because I got older. But no, it's because women and the Internet changed. In 2012 you messaged a girl she wouldn't talk to others because the userbase was so small. If you give women a candy store of Chads, even regular guys will get inceled.>how can u be that old and still vriginThe game is so hard, and finding a female takes so LONG. it is a numbers game and I think I does have a nonzero possibility, but it takes too long and I got old in the process. I can't believe I'm a boom-boom now. I used to be like you guys just a while ago. I remember making these same whiny threads at 28. In any normal world I'd find a new gf every year, but in this digital clown world when I go out there's nobody there because women get so much attention online they dont have to. They just sit indoors hooked on attention. I think I'm decent, but even the ugliest girls are going for the BEST. I could land a 40yo single mom but that's worse than a lifetime of cooming, so I'll pass.
>>82928982You're an incel because you're a pathetic little man who can't handle his looksmatch being your only option. Enjoy your hand until you die, loser.
>try to talk to a girl online>she talks to you for a while>then a hotter guy messages her>she moves on to that guy>the hot guy dumps her eventually>she talks to another regular guy like you>until she dumps that regular guy over a hotter guy This cycle goes on forever and she never realizes she should've min-maxed her losses and just stick with you in the first place.
>>82929012>can't handle his looksmatchMy looksmatches are 20yo big titted supermodels but they can get someone who looks like me but is 10 years youngerBeing a male model is harder than being ugly
It almost entirely comes down to luck. Either you're born lucky (6ft+/handsome face/born a woman) or you get lucky by happening to meet the right woman at the right time and saying all the right things(remember men aren't allowed to be passive so you're almost forced to constantly gamble on all your convos with women and hope you say everything that specific woman wants to hear).I've been really unlucky the past year. I've been on dating apps and actually matched with a lot but they put no effort in the conversations and then just ghost me. Months later I look at my matches again and those same women are STILL on the apps. They just go there for a quick fix of attention and have no intention of dating the 99%of the time. You have to get lucky to happen to match with one during the 1% of the time she finally decides to be serious about dating and then, of course, not accidentally give her the ick by saying you don't like sushi or some stupid bullshit.
>>82929023Nope, your bitterness and entitlement puts you on the bottom rung with all the fat ugly single moms you despise. Keep coping, cupcake.
>>82929033This post is 100% truth. You clearly know what you're talking about.I'm OP and I've experienced the same.On Interpals I got ghosted by a couple of good looking women and thought they just chose someone hotter.Then a YEAR later I still see their profiles up there.The fuck? I was so compelled to message them asking what the fuck they're doing if they can't land a boyfriend in a year despite their massive popularity.Most people dont realize this. These women are so low IQ they cant tell they're terminally stuck in this loop and think they're winning something by getting small dopamine hits with each new guy.
>>82928982I'm 38.>10 years ago I could pick up chicks online easilyWell gee, I never managed that. Good job, Chad, what changed? Go do your Chad things.
>>82929040Your only contribution to this thread is making yourself feel good by mocking someone else.What a great person you must be.
>>82929058If you're going to spend your days seething about the fact that you have to date people at your status level and age bracket, then yes, you deserve every ounce of mockery. You're a pathetic turd who needs to go outside and stop feeding your hateful little mindset. You don't deserve some hot young woman by virtue of existing.
>>82929033>not accidentally give her the ick by saying you don't like sushi or some stupid bullshit.When I talk to women online it's like I'm deactivating a bomb or something.One wrong move and it's over.When she asks me if I'm a dog or a cat person I start sweating because this trivial bullshit question might be a dealbreaker.I've been rejected for not liking the same anime as the girl
>>82929075>If you're going to spend your days seething about the fact that you have to date people at your status level and age bracketThe premise of the thread is that guys can no longer get women of their own level, because women only want to date up these days.If you can't discuss this without twisting the premise with a straw man argument, fuck off. Nobody wants you here
>>82929091inb4 he responds to this with yet another "ur just bitter ugly fag" ad hominemThese posters are most likely AI bots, every post is 1-2 lines long and contain the same message with slightly different wording
>>82929091Women don't all date up, dipshit. You could could get any number of women to date if you were halfway realistic with their standards. But oh, it wouldn't be good enough because you yourself are hypocritical sacks of shit that want to just the same. Die mad about it, I'm not going anywhere. You incels spread your bullshit all over the internet and expect sympathy when you deserve none of it.
>>82929114>RREEEEE MOM MAKE THE EVIL INCLES GO AWAY RRREEEEEEIncels speak the truth, and incel claims are always backed up by actual statistics. You either accept it or cope and screech.Inceldom is literally backed up by science. What about your claims? Based on emotions and feminism.
Women ruined the world.Women are to blame.They cant handle their reward systems so they just chase Chad until they're old
>>8292898231 and I'm the same but never tried. The effort has never looked worth it to me. And it's not just looks, most women are just not nice to deal with. I don't want 99% of them in my life. It's insanely rare to find a woman who is at least average-looking and not bad to live with and they are usually already taken. Just talk to some normies and listen to what they have to tolerate from their gfs/wives. I'd rather coom for the rest of my life. The women on my screen are always beautiful and don't demand anything from me. I never wanted to marry or have kids. There is no point in trying.
>>82929157I'm you but with jobs. I have never had a job because getting a job these days requires the same amount of daily investing and insane amounts of effort and ability to take rejectionsI just dont think it's worth it.If people want me to get a job, they need to GIVE me a job
>>82929157>The women on my screen are always beautiful and don't demand anything from meThey don't?The women on my screen are always demanding I send them money at the snap of their fingers and eat my own cum.Weird.
>>82929180You can live without a gf/wife.You can't live without an income. I'd opt out of waging too but I'm working on affording it.
>>82929188Ignore the demands and learn to find OF stuff for free online. It's not difficult. I bulk download OF/Fansly profiles every day.
>>82929123The only truth incels preach is that their personalities are inherently flawed and undesirable. You are bitter that women don't have to settle for your sorry asses out of necessity, you're bitter that you have to do more than just lift a finger and actually put effort into dating now. We're not going back to women being forced into being the wives of undesirable little sad-sack. And everything you listed there in that retarded pepe post? That's all the fault of the (mostly men) billionaire class collectively destroying the middle class. But of course, it still must be women's fault just because they won't touch your micropenis, right?
>>82929198True, but it's too late for me to get a job. I'm over 30 with no previous experience.In today's economy it's a cursed situation.Employers have so many applicants. Why would they choose me over some 20-year-old with more experience?They don't.If we had more jobs this wouldn't be an issue, but they fucked the job market with technology and AI.
>>82929209>ignores the post he's replying to>ignores the picture>instantly switches back to repeating insultsThis guy has to be a bot, right?It sucks that there's no "hide user" button on 4chan like on other chans.These days with AI posters it's getting tiresome when 30% of the thread is just one bot.
>>82929023I didn't even read your post, but you have to be kidding me? LmaoYou think your looksmatch is a hot stacy?If you were a woman, you would get endlessly mocked here.
>>82929227>I didn't even read your post, but in my head I think I have the right to challenge your claimsOk why would I even respond to this
>>82929212I got my 1st job at 28 but I have an in demand degree and I'm in Europe. The lack of experience almost screwed me up but fortunately skill ended up mattering more. If you're 30 with no degree or experience then yea you only have access to sui fuel low wage jobs that aren't worth it unless you're in danger of starvation and homelessness.
>>82929221>I-I-It's all AI!>B-Bots!Again, go outside and talk to normal people without bitter entitlement and you'll get girlfriends. They may not be the supermodels you coom to, but at least you'll have a woman! Or not, you all seem fucking hopeless at this point. even /b/ and /pol/ incels are less pathetic than you all.>WAAAAAHHH HE HURT MY FEEFEES!!Yeah, you all deserve it for being such obnoxious retards.
>>82929248Ok how many times were you going to repeat the same post in this thread?
>>82929240Anon I live in Finland which has the highest unemployment rate in EuropeThere arent even wageslave jobs hereI cant even land a floor mopping job because they're in demand right now. 500k refugees are applying for low entry jobs, stealing them from natives
>>82929257I don't know, how many times are you all retards going to keep making threads that boil down to "wOmEn BaD!!!" with extra steps?
>>82929262Well, as long as your NEETbux is enough for you to live decently, I wouldn't worry. I thought Finland didn't have rapefugee issues? I hope you don't become another Swedistan.
>>82929232Regardless of what your thread is about, claiming your looksmatch is stacy is wild.
>>82929270But... women ARE bad, right?We're just living in a feminist world so you can't vocalize the evilness of women.>>82929281That's what I thought too, but every year they cut the amount of welfare or make it conditional on something.So first they removed the jobs, then they remove the welfare.Finland is not a happy country anymore.I get about 900 euros a month. Granted, it's enough for now, but they could take it away any day and I'm living under a bridge.
>>82929040>>82929227>>82929302why are you retards responding to an obvious troll
>>82929314>varg postingah, you're a nazi piece of shit, too. thanks for clarifying
>>82929333redditus you fucking retard stop feeding the mentally ill
>>82929314900 EUR is almost as much as I make in eastern EU and that's a pretty nice wage here. I don't know how expensive Finland is but with 900 Euro and living with parents, it should be plenty. I save 700-800 a month, am now nearing 20000 Euros saved and invested. And that's without making any sacrifices. I have pretty much everything I need and some luxuries on top.
>>82929358Well, chocolate bars cost almost 2 euros in Finland. This is one of the most expensive countries in the world not counting Switzerland.If you find a cheap studio apartment, dont drink or smoke, you can survive on 900 eurosBut you cant save any of it. You have 20k saved up, I have nothing. 900 simply isnt enough to start investing or putting it awayIt kinda sucks realizing I'll never buy a car or my own house. Whatever I get from the government immediately goes back into circulationAt this point I'd rather get a job, but I can't get one
>>82929380All I want is to not have to wage. I don't care that I take the bus to work and I never even want to own my own place. I'm going to inherit my parent's apartment anyway. That's good enough for me. I just want to not work anymore. I can't enjoy life waking up at 7am and getting home at 5pm. Sooner I can quit, the better. I think I'll be able to do it around 45.
>>82929425My parents dont own a house or an apartment so you're entitled as fuckI will inherit nothing.
>>82929132you forgot to add *incoherent seething and personal attacks* on the liberal part, thats extremely common as well
>>82929439>personal attacksThis has weirded me out for the longest time.Why do leftists and liberals and normies only attack me, and not my arguments?And they're supposed to be all about empathy and tolerance
I'm almost 40 and my dilemma is this>youve never dated so you want someone with your own experience level>young women dont want you because you're 40>you dont want 40yo women because you have nothing in commen, literally nothing
>>82929496You're fucking 40, dude. You're never going to have anything in common with 20 year olds. (lack of experience isn't a common point). Your equivalent is some ugly, fat, unattractive 40 year old woman.
>>82929633>Your equivalent is some ugly, fat, unattractive 40 year old woman.I'm a hockey player with no kids. Why's a fat single mom my equivalent?Fuck you and your feminist demoralization. You sound biased. Your claims aren't based on equality and fairness, but simply punishment for males.
>>82929633>be a former athlete with a physics degree, you're 6ft tall, have a chiseled jaw etc>your only downside is that you're close to 40, not even fuckin 40 yet. 37 doesnt equal 40 you fucknut>back in the day mature men were appreciated so this wasnt even a fuckin downside 10 years ago>then zoomers started claiming that 16-year-old broccoli hair cut tiktok guys are "Prime Chad">they say your match is a fat 40yo woman with kids>hasnt taken any care of herself ever>divorced 5 times>she just wants someone to step in after Chad #5 dumped her
>>82928982>imbel (incel but for no reason)Hey faggot why are you inventing more stupid word variants that mean the same thing? This one doesn't even have intuitive reasoning like volcel or other -cel types of bullshit I see here every day.Fuck you imbecile.
>>82929854>fat 40yo woman with kidsWomen are just trying to promote their shitty friends so they can leech off someone else. Funny story my friend's GF tried to set me up in this exact scenario but all her fat single mom friends rejected me when they asked her how tall I was. Even the bottom of the barrel is still making demands, that is how out of balance the market has become.
>>82930831Literally thisStop telling me to go for fat 40yo single moms when they're fucking delusional anyway
>>82929075t. tranny with a 5-o'clock shadow pretending to be a woman
>>829289821. Fat chicks2. Hookers3. MenTake your pick
>>82932004Yea but why would a high-value male do that?>anon you're not a high value maleYea but what percentage of men are 6 fate tall and have a degree in physics? I ask thee
>>82932475Doesn't matter. If you're posting here, you're not high value.
>>82929459its probably because you make it easy for people to attack you for your personal flaws by being ugly, socially inept, annoying, or some combination of these traits. Its also because your "arguments" (like the low effort image you posted, that uses right wing think tanks as "unbiased" sources with unclear sample sizes and shows no causation between the variables) tend to be played out and transparently linked to personal pathologies, making it tiresome and not really worth addressing or refuting, since you are not looking for an honest discussion or to arrive to the truth, but rather to confirm the biases you have accumulated through your own anecdotal, tragic lived experience that doesnt necessarily reflect broader trends.