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>>82934081
It's good that many men are sexless. Genetic garbage males should not breed.

Facial attractiveness

Facial attractiveness and athleticism were the only thing to determine female attraction, whilst male attraction was correlated with several personality traits to a higher degree
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x

A man's physical attractiveness significantly predicted his romantic popularity. Potential for financial success, friendliness, responsibility, trustworthiness, leadership, academic success, and parental qualities did not
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29506449/

Women gossip significantly more about men's physical appearances than men gossip about women's physical appearances
https://doi.org/10.1007/s11199-012-0160-4

Women and their parents indicated that ambition and intelligence were more important than physical attractiveness for a long-term mate. However, both daughters and their parents chose the more attractive man as the best long-term partner for mating, regardless of his ascribed traits
https://doi.org/10.1037/ebs0000325

>>82934081
It's always been true. What's changed is that even normalfaggots and basedboys can no longer deny it. They don't even try to debunk blackpill. Now they act as if the blackpill always been obvious to them while continuing to disparage anybody who discusses it.

Height

Tall men are more reproductively successful
https://www.nature.com/articles/35003107

84% of women preferred a romantic partner taller than them
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4168/1/3/17

From a speed dating study, women were most likely to choose a speed-dater 25 cm taller than themselves, whereas men were most likely to choose women only 7 cm shorter than themselves
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347213001590

A greater height difference in a couple was positively related to the wife's happiness
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2015.11.039

Short women who have kids with tall men are more likely to need an emergency C section
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0020497

Women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm taller than their partner
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

Women considered taller men and men with larger shoulder-to-hip ratio as more attractive, masculine, and better in fighting ability
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02416-2

Personality and behavior

Men find kindness attractive in women while women did not find kindness attractive in men
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167214543879

Psychopathic men's personality style is attractive to women
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-019-00213-0

Women prefer Dark Triad traits in men
http://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2013.08.021

Having ever used a weapon in a fight positively predicts sexual activity amongst males
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19350760/

>>82934102
Why should genetic garbage females breed?

>>82934124
The only people that still deny it are the people that are severely emotionally invested in it being wrong. This includes, but is not limited to: liberals, social progressives, lying women, redpill grifters, boomers and other fossils, or people who cant turn off the computer when they see these kinds of posts because it demoralizes them too much.

They also follow the same arguments every time
>"the blackpill isn't real just be confident bro"
>"women don't care much about looks or height bro"
>"blackpill stuff will ruin your life"
>"well that study is [insert moot criticism of study]"
>"well studies don't actually mean anything"
>"what you're saying is that women care about looks and height bro? seems obvious to me"

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>>82934332
You literally just need to go outside and approach women, bro. I do it and it works just fine every time

>>82934081
it is, everyone who is against it if they have half a brain know that, thsy just cant afford to give up the virtue signaling attention whoring

>>82934081
We should just pin this thread

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>>82934332
your'e both right and wrong at the same time
yes that stuff matters, but only because that's how the female gender has evolved to be
in the end, you need to realize that women are memes, you can't take them seriously
if you don't take them seriously, you can see them for what they are and act accordingly
this unironicallly gives you sexual appeal and buypasses their normal filter.
It's that easy, just treat them like the dumb children they are.

>>82934081
I don't know. I don't talk to normies about it. On one hand I can see it on my daily life, but I'm a fucking weirdo. On the other hand, the younger generation seems kinda fucked. I feel like I was the guinea pig for whatever they're doing to them. I think I was the protozoomer. They confirmed that the experiments they did to me demoralized me completely and so they unleashed it onto the entirety of the next generation of boys.

>>82934102
All the technological advancements are thanks to "genetic garbage males" breeding.

What makes their stinky pussy tingle doesn't necessarily mean better. Many species have gone extinct due to sexual selection.

>>82934332
>Why should genetic garbage females breed?
In the end it's gonna work out because the genetics will improve over time.
>b~but what a~bout women??
Everyone is gonna become more beautiful.

In short evolution has decided that genetic garbage males shouldn't breed. So deal with it.

>>82934500
>All the technological advancements are thanks to "genetic garbage males" breeding
Genetic garbage males didn't invent anything. A few select of men did. Nice try though.

>>82934081
Well, it kind of doesn't matter because, while we see more media having to admit to some of this, they'll just frame it as "The Patriarchy also hurts men," so they can just double down and tell boys they're supposed to be even gayer. This part of what they mean by "Resilience" if you ever see that word used in like a pedagogical context. Then they can just keep passing the buck, moving the goalposts, and playing an ideological shell game forever. They do this with everything.

>>82934520
No, but men kept civilization going, that led to really smart dudes invent stuff.

Women don't give a shit about intelligence or other attributes that help civilization, their only concept of good genes is bone size. If it were for them, we would still be stuck as hunter-gatherers or even extinct at the hands of other hominids from that time.

>>82934509
>In the end it's gonna work out because the genetics will improve over time.
What genetics improving in what ways? Genetic fitness is not absolute, it is relative to the environment. You probably know nothing about genetics nor biology as a whole. While I haven't formally studied it outside of high school, I know enough to know you don't know what you're talking about. Why don't 10/10 women just have sex with 5-9/10 men too? It would still result in "improving of genetics" over time.

>In short evolution has decided that genetic garbage males shouldn't breed. So deal with it.
How has evolution "decided" that? What is a "garbage genetic male"? One of the links posted in this thread literally shows that males who have used weapons in fights (antisocial behavior that harms others) correlates with sexual activity. Women must have a fucked idea of "genetic quality" if sociopaths are getting laid a bunch

>>82934102
You are a tranny though, lmao

>>82934596
>No, but men kept civilization going, that led to really smart dudes invent stuff
That's a very rich claim.
>Women don't give a shit about intelligence or other attributes
Did a male Podcaster tell you that?
>>82934623
>What genetics improving in what ways? Genetic fitness is not absolute, it is relative to the environment
I think that ugly moids shouldn't breed. Explain in simpler terms why that is wrong from a genetic standpoint?
>Why don't 10/10 women just have sex with 5-9/10 men too? It would still result in "improving of genetics" over time.
You can ask questions all day but the facts are that it has been decided that genetic garbage males shouldn't procreate. You are screaming into void. I feel sorry for you but there is no answer that I can give to satisfy you.
>What is a "garbage genetic male"?
A male who can't attract women lmao

>>82934081
It's obviously true. I'm not defeatist about it but i just accept that if there's a girl out there for me it's probably 1 in one 1 million which basically means it's statistically impossible and I just have to accept that. Women in America also just seem in a sad state if what I can tell is accurate. Society is not as it used to be. Hopefully I am wrong.
>>82934102
Felt more tired than trolled tbqh desu senpai.

>>82934652
>EVERYONE I DISAGREE WITH MUST BE TRANS
Not OP but this shit is retarded. Whenever a woman acts like a shithead online it's blamed on... you guessed it. MEN!

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>>82934102
Extremely based opinion.
Blessed be the chadsexual foid who ensures that 95% of males will never have sex. This is how it should be.

>>82934102
This, all men who aren't at least a 7/10 should commit suicide, if you don't blue eyes you should commit suicide, if you aren't 6'2+ you should commit suicide, if you aren't fit you should commit suicide, if you aren't white you should commit suicide, if you don't have a big chest and sexy back you should commit suicide, if you aren't handsome you should commit suicide, if you are making less then 150k USD a year you should commit suicide, any males that cannot meet the above requirements will be genetically breeded out of the population due to them being low value. Its natural selection for pathetic incel losers that will die alone as they should.

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>>82934102
It's a natural process that was bypassed because men abused man-made social constructs.

>>82934686
>I think that ugly moids shouldn't breed. Explain in simpler terms why that is wrong from a genetic standpoint?
I think that ugly foids shouldn't breed. Explain in simpler terms why that is wrong from a genetic standpoint?
> it has been decided that genetic garbage males shouldn't procreate
Can I have a source for when evolution decided this?
>A male who can't attract women lmao
Sexlessness correlates with IQ in both sexes
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2418257122
So smarter men are less attractive to women while violent criminals are more attractive. Interesting.

>>82934727
I (rightly) assume anybody avatarfagging as a loli is a tranny

thank you for the enlightenment

>>82934764
It's literally the same pseudoscientific nonsense all the time. Natural selection is when women get killed by their violent criminal fuck buddies.

blackpill fags are so annoying.

>>82934734
Thank you.
>>82934775
>I think that ugly foids shouldn't breed. Explain in simpler terms why that is wrong from a genetic standpoint?
I don't need to explain something which isn't happening or something that will never happen lol.
>Can I have a source for when evolution decided this?
If you already acknowledge that women are no longer required to date ugly subhuman males why do you need a source to confirm what you already know? Sexual selection=evolution of our species.
>Sexlessness correlates with IQ in both sexes
Correlations are weak. Do you know what else correlates with sexlessnes? Autism. We can both play that game.

>>82934787
Its sad how people just dig their heads in the sand and pretend it isnt real

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>>82934790
>pseudoscientific
How many degrees do you have? Most women who come to this conclusion are educated and smart.

>>82934777
Ok foid. Let's blame everything on men.

>>82934813
What ever you're trying to do only works on people who talk like you and care about the gay shit that you do.

>>82934798
>Sexual selection=evolution of our species.
Retarded since many species have gone extinct because of retarded females.
>Do you know what else correlates with sexlessnes? Autism
yeah, they'd rather breed with subhuman criminals than a with guy who is just socially inept. So much for the gender that will lead us to greatness lmao

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>>82934500
6 foot 4 btw

The white pill here is the smartest man on earth, who was also a Chad, knew sex was draining and chose to abstain.

>>82934813
men are responsible for nearly everything bad though

>>82934081

It's obvious that the blackpill is real.

The redpill, or enshittened pop versions of the blackpill, will say that no, it's not their looks! It's because those men getting the women are more alpha because they work hard bro! And they have balls and make things happen, or something. Oh and they also act like they don't care and own their height, so girls flock to them (redpillers unironically believe this movie trope).

In reality the main thing that determines how popular among women a man is is, literally his facial features. That's it and nothing else compares. If you didn't figure this out by just going to school, you're low IQ or just very self centered and delusional, like those guys that think you can "pick up" a girl by doing cool magic tricks.

Does anything else other than facial features matter AT ALL? Yes, for example, height is a close second. Working out also makes you more attractive.

Does personality matter AT ALL? Yes. For example, if a tall model looking gigachad shits and pisses himself for a whole month without ever changing his pants or doing any other kind of hygiene, he would probably struggle to get a gf. That is not very realistic, but technically in the logical space of possibilities. So is an ugly guy being popular with women due to his intelligence and charisma. None of this disproves the blackpill, however.

>>82934848
>men are even responsible for the shit that women say online
Lmao

>>82934833
>Retarded since many species have gone extinct because of retarded females.
Another correlation you stupid moid. Nice try though.
>yeah, they'd rather breed with subhuman criminals than a with guy who is just socially inept
Most women don't want to breed with either. My point still stands. You can't bring up Correlations to prove that men who can't attain sex aren't genetic garbage. For me personally it's clear as the sky that if a male is unattractive he is genetic trash.

>>82934798
>Sexual selection=evolution of our species
Women select for low IQ violent and antisocial men.
>Do you know what else correlates with sexlessnes? Autism. We can both play that game
Yeah? How does that contradict what I said? The foid/tranny is already breaking.
>I don't need to explain something which isn't happening or something that will never happen lol.
Well then it has nothing to do with "genetic quality improving over time". "Genetic quality" is completely arbitrary and meaningless. You can't just alludd to it and women it into existence

>>82934866
>Another correlation you stupid moid
This is the most women statement ever. That statement makes absolutely zero sense. You are genuinely clueless.
>>82934866
>you can't bring up correlations
Well I can, have, and will continue to do so. Women select against intelligence and for violent behavior. Such "good genetics"

>>82934838
Based 200IQ Chad woman disregarder

Women are unironically going to collapse society and send women's rights back to the stone age just because they dont want to have families. I've never seen such a boomer brained mentality. They are living it up while dooming future generations.

It's only true for those who believe in it and then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. More zoomer pussy for me

>>82934867
>Women select for low IQ violent and antisocial men
Whatever helps you sleep at night lmao. Surely you aren't getting selected because you are ugly and autistic.
>Yeah? How does that contradict what I said? The foid/tranny is already breaking.
It's not that it contradicts anything. It's that it invalidates the basis for your argument.
>Well then it has nothing to do with "genetic quality improving over time". "Genetic quality" is completely arbitrary and meaningless.
Whether or not it's arbitrary is up for discussion but certain men aren't being picked and you could call that a form of evolution.
>>82934883
>This is the most women statement ever. That statement makes absolutely zero sense. You are genuinely clueless.
Read it again autist.
>Well I can, have, and will continue to do so
Do so but it's completely pointless because correlations means jackshit. At the end of the day your lot isn't being picked and instead of blaming women maybe you should look in the mirror. What is it about you that is so repulsive that no one wants you?

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>>82934829
>she's still doing it
Everything is apparently men's fault.
>>82934925
Shut up cunt.

>>82934081
The real black pill regarding looks isnt how women treat you, its how other men do. Halo effect one of the strongest social forces

>>82934856
most of these women are victims of abuse

>>82934866
>Another correlation you stupid moid. Nice try though.
It's not a correlation dumbass, it's directly related to one adaptation we had, which is monogamy, which is rare in mammals, that was our key to success.
>>82934838
>the smartest man on earth
That was Newton though. Tesla gave us great contributions, but Newton set the bases for the whole scientific discipline.

>>82934102
if that law was true then why do they still exist after thousands of years? if it was so easy to remove bad genes by stopping those men from reproducing, and that is the reproductive style weve been running with for thousands of years, why do men with bad genes still exist?

thats right its because inferior genetics women still reproduce and create them
your dumb ass thinks eugenics works by only forcing it on one gender, it doesnt work like that
thats like stopping black men from reproducing but allowing black women to reproduce and then being mad that mullatos still exist

>>82934833

>le socially inept meme

Wake up you fucking retard. Incels are not socially inept, we're just ugly looking.

If anything we have low self esteem because everyone hates us and treats us like shit, but we're not "inept".

>>82934764
rape is a natural process that bypasses your natural process

>>82934851
the reality of the world is 90% blackpill "genetic determinism" 10% bluepill "personality"
but height comes first followed by face(+hair), after that is skeletal frame/penis size

>>82935037
Prob best to write SMV as an equation that multiplies the factors each with their own coefficient based on their importance. But obviously if one factor is zero the rest basically goes to zero

>>82934102
rape is good too
the more men dont get pussy the closer we become islam
the closer we become to islam to sooner we can rape

>>82934925
>Whatever helps you sleep at night lmao. Surely you aren't getting selected because you are ugly and autistic.
What is inherently wrong about being ugly and what makes it worse to being literally homicidal and low IQ?
>Whether or not it's arbitrary is up for discussion
You are a fucking clown
> but certain men aren't being picked
high IQ and peaceful men seemingly. The kind that keep society in order and the entire system as a whole.
>Read it again autist.
Kek this is why I keep responding to you, you are saying nonsense.
>Do so but it's completely pointless because correlations means jackshit
How? Just because you say they don't mean anything doesn't mean that it's true.

>>82934081
the only counter to blackpill is Jesus coming back, and even then its still too long. i doubt Hes even returning. imagine that. the last hope for people like me, turns out to be a lie. how humiliating a defeat that would be and how deep of a despair spiral that would send someone into ..

>>82935173
Was metaphorical. Spirit of Gods Chosen Prophet returned in Baha U Llah

>>82935011
I was talking about autists which can also hold you back unless you're really attractive.

>>82935037

Penis size can't possibly be important by definition, as it can only be a problem when a woman is already interested in you.

I really don't think height is more important than face ngl, bear in mind social media bullshit exaggerates the importance of height vs real life dating. But that's still a respectable viewpoint in my opinion, as you are actually high IQ and blackpilled and only disagree with me on technicalities.

>>82935063
I would tend to favor the idea of expressing these concepts in text rather than equations. Text is better for social and philosophical abstract concepts. We're not talking about any kind of study where observations were made into statistics, but the fundamentals about why people behave the way they do, therefore just text is better (in my opinion).

>>82935194
Ah ok. I apologize for responding like that, I'm very frustrated with bluepillers.

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I think blackpill stuff is mostly true at least for online dating but I can't explain almost all the guys I work with or see around the city who with gfs are ugly/mid. I'm taller and better looking than most of them and a wizard (although I never really tried dating in my adult life due to severe mental problems). My only explanation is that normies with lots of friends just end up getting sex/relationships through social connections.

>>82935183
WHOMST?!
i'll bite. im bored.
send source.

>>82935183
>muslim
discarded. fake. inauthentic. i rebuke you!

>>82934152
This one is just sad.

>>82935218
Based open minded anon.
https://bahai-library.com/pdf/s/sears_thief_night.pdf This is pretty detailed but there are a lot of good videos about the Bahai faith and also the dude wrote a ton.

Main tenant is that God progressively sends prophets and has guided humanity in various appropriate ways

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>>82935037
>the reality of the world is 90% blackpill "genetic determinism" 10% bluepill "personality"
Ok so we established that money and fame can't affect this established "reality" otherwise you are admitting you are a lying retard, so then how do ugly celebs smash and get pussy, even more than average men?

>>82935001
"Bad genes" is meaningless because women select for more antisocial men, height which is relatively meaningless, facial attractiveness which is also meaningless (no genetic benefit unless someone is obviously diseased). "Best genetics" is also completely dependent on the environment, which ideally selects for intelligence and cooperation.

>>82935232
Jesus was a Jew. This sends people into hysterics

>>82935202
Agreed, my main point being that if one aspect is tanked (you are 4 feet tall but have a 10 inch dick and 10/10 face card) your smv will be tanked

>>82935252
for the same reason a chad who shits himself would not be able to get a gf

>>82935252
>just become a celebrity bro
lmao

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>>82935450
So then not "le genetic determinism". So you agree the blackpill is bullshit and you are just jealous hot guys won't fuck you because they aren't into fat faggots and getting poop dick. Glad that's settled.

>>82935510
>Blackpill isn't true because 1 in 100,000,000 edge cases exist
wtf.... i love the bluepill now

>>82934804
What a stupid unpleasant looking creep

>>82935510
Do you think everybody can just become a celebrity? Of course somebody who is known by millions of females may have some women attracted to him. This doesn't apply for average Joe who goes to school or work. Exceptions prove the rules.

>>82934838
Tesla was a SIMP who worshipped women and supported feminism

For real

He didn't have sex because he thought women were too pure and holy to fuck.

>>82935558
No she just wants non chad men to die

>>82935562
Wtf this makes me so mad

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>>82935558
You don't have to be world famous, that's why I used tiny, he's a literal who, he has no talent and he's ugly, he's just good at getting connections. There's millions of guys you don't hear about getting laid because they are connected, rappers, jocks, criminals. Nothing special about any of them.

I theorize either incels make up the le genetic determinism meme to either justify their lazy defeatist commie adjacent mentalities, or they are legit thirsty for chad cock desu

>>82935589
Lol sorry. Just reporting facts

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>>82935258
why? Jesus wasnt a khazarian jew (zionist lies) and even if He was, my conclusion or assumption about Him choosing to be a jew coming as The Son of God, was to show compassion upon the khazarian jews. He foreknew that they would be the most hated group of people, so He was moved with compassion to choose that race of people so they wouldnt be completely destroyed by the world (even if they deserved it) and the world would have more respect for jews. thats just my guess, and its 95% likely that im wrong. they knew that He wasnt one of them, and they lied and manipulated the world into thinking they were "Gods ((god)) chosen" (lowercase god, but decieved the christians oh so subtely). why would Jesus come as a khazarian jew, when He literally said they were the seed of the devil? my guess is that the jews of Jesus' age were likely middle eastern type. it doesnt matter tho. God gives good life / superpowers / cheat codes / and a royal inheritance TO THOSE WHO KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS & LOVE & HONOR & WORSHIP & OBEY HIM & WHAT HE INSTRUCTS! the reason why the world thinks that God is black & His "chosen" people are black because black people have expierenced more hardship than all other races in the modern age, and when its just you and your people, the only choice they had was to turn to God & get to know Him, out of survival. every black man and woman i've come across on tiktok was well disciplined (biblical standards) and well versed in the things of God. i want them to know that i see them and understand them & why they're like this (good traits). but im here to show you as a living sacrifice (white man) that being an israelite is deeper than skin tone. its about your soul evolving & survival & the will to LIVE that brings you to nothing other than GOD ALMIGHTY to help save you! out of this struggle, you birth a (real) israelite! most white folks dont expierence this to the degree i have, because i genuinely started at the bottom in extreme poverty (1/2)

>>82935645
Those men all have either sexy or just masculine faces.

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>>82935662
and was born into a cursed family!! i had no other option but God. this in turn made me into a holy beast!! im not hating on white people (i am white) but it seems like they dont care to evolve (on a Godly soul & biblical standard) as much as black people! but i understand why blacks are hungry! they got dealt a very shitty card with slavery and all the bs up until this modern day 2025. blacks were trying to SURVIVE & get ahead, whites were just dickin around, inventing things, building wealth. obviously i wasnt born into real slavery, but i was pretty far down on the totem pole (soul level / spiritual level) when i came to this world! im hungry to GET AHEAD!! i dont have daddys money or grandaddys trust fund! i had to literally claw my way out of hell! i was even being taken advantage of creatively! there was SO MUCH success over my life for surviving, and because i survived with a smile, THAT SUCCESS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MINE TO ENJOY AND BASK IN THE GLORY! but no, i was not aware of WHO i was until last year. until it was too late. do u know how heartbreaking & hopeless that is? its like, for some reason, i was the chosen "white" person for retribution for slavery, even tho i relate to black women and men more than any other race! i cant believe this is my life! its not fair!! anyway im rambling. true israel are the faithful of God, the remnant, no matter the skin color or gender or race.

>>82935760
You are nutty

No offense

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>>82935760
You have clearly been possessed by the demiurge, go to the nearest wallgreens to seek dissolution

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>>82934152
Reminded me.

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>>82934124
This. The black pill worldview has become way more mainstream in the 2020s because of just how undeniable it is and how it is even negatively affecting normie men with dating apps and what not but normies still cannot stand to talk about it openly and vigorously... because of the implications.

Give it another 10-15 years and even that taboo might melt away. Its anyone's guess after that what happens because if that barrier falls and most men are talking about it and not tearing each other down for doing so and then solutions start to be talked about?... Well, that's when we really get into dangerous territory because the only real solutions here are [REDACTED], [REDACTED], and [REDACTED].

>>82936506
Your not wrong, but it gets tiring being depressed all the time

>>82934764
she's right. civilization is a conspiracy of the weak against the strong.

>>82936630
What she doesn't realize is she is part of the weak caste. A lot of women will be wiped out too (have been wiped out). Chad doesn't need a bunch of uggos or infinite women. Just a select few of the most beautiful.

Creating little goblino fodder wont do much good. It's quick diminishing returns with wanton procreation and a sudden pop out of existence.

But what's funny is women now admitting that they are mass murdering men and doing eugenics.

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>>82935662
Learn how to structure paragraphs nigga

>>82937065
Also the structure is all messed up as many of the "good" genes that will propagate will be of the foreign waste that is being poured and artificially elevated in the west. As whites are held back. Wimps like Mamdani and DEI hires will pollute the process. Kek. Women can't do shit right. Let's be honest, it's not eugenics. Women are genuinely just stupid and are trying to justify their destruction of every nation feminism touches.

I.e. it doesn't matter how good your nation is, once foids are given freedom they destroy it and it will continue to crumble, regressing to a violent, disorderly, primitive, mudhut state unless the retards are reined in again i.e. le patriarchy".

>>82934764
>this narcissistic cretura's genes 'deserve' to be passed down
Foids really are low IQ holy shit lol

I used to be really good looking, now I'm middle aged. I have basically had it as easy as PSL God on youtube says. I made it to middle age without being diagnosed with autism despite obviously having it. I think it is all true. Still, I'm autistic so I will keep posting here anonymously forever.

>>82934520
would you fuck albert einstein?

>>82934686
> You can ask questions all day but the facts are that it has been decided that genetic garbage males shouldn't procreate. You are screaming into void. I feel sorry for you but there is no answer that I can give to satisfy you.

basically you know his point is 100% valid and you dont have anything in defense so you just disregard

I hate trannies like you so much like I wish you got pulverized in a woodchipper

>>82934102
Women are not selecting good genetic material by most any measure.

>>82934081
As someone who been on /r9k/ for a while I can say we've always been blackpilled we just never acknowledged it or given it a name

>>82935252
retard
are you too infantile to realize some women will gladly sell themselves for some money and attention (which they can use to look out for real genetic high value males btw).

his so called relationship with melinda was a so called open relationship and even there she cheated on him (by sleeping with males he didnt approve of)

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>>82934081
>I challenge any blackpill denying copers to respond.
I'm responding. What the fuck is the blackpill even? I've seen countless arguments whatever some term was "true" or "false" and the two anons were talking about entirely different things and constantly moving the goalposts in the act of pure reaction.

>>82934365
>posts bradd pitt

kys

>>82938341
>What the fuck is the blackpill even?
its just a learned helplessness cope and a post hoc rationalization "my life choices caused me pain and suffering.. this must be le wymans fault somehow!" and so on ad infinitum.

>>82938372
I guess? But then it would be proper from the blackpill defenders to explain what they are defending if they are expecting a reasonable criticism.

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>>82938383
The particular cope I see them use alot is that they were born ugly in a way they can't change (learned helpless) and women telepathically tell eachother not to date them like they were sinking their menstrual cycles or some shit. At this point asking them to actually explain it would be like asking a witch doctor how he's able to speak to the dead, ruins their immersion in the cope.

>>82938372
>I chose to be born ugly
>I chose to be born with a small dick
>I chose to have women hate me all my life when I did nothing to them
Why are you such a retarded faggot?

>>82938475
nigga, people will make less assumptions when they have anything specific to work with

>>82938434
>At this point asking them to actually explain it would be like asking a witch doctor how he's able to speak to the dead, ruins their immersion in the cope.
Yeah, I don't have a lot of hope for that. Still, kind of funny how often they claim it's a science (when they are using "science" as a synonym of what they find to be true)

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>>82938475
Men are stereotypically ugly, beauty is objectively a feminine trait, most men are ugly yet like 98% get sex regularly you faggot. The worst thing about this cope is honestly just how boring it is.

>>82938552
Scroll up to the OP, actually read it, and come back here when your grasp of the relevant statistics is a little firmer, retard-kun.

>>82938341
The blackpill is a philosophy that argues that physical attractiveness is the most critical factor in determining men's dating success, especially in modern Western countries. A man's money, status, and social skills are argued to be other factors of secondary importance, which is known as LMS theory. An expanded or alternate definition proposes that a man's dating and life outcomes generally rely on genetically determined traits.

>>82935212
The blackpill talks about sexual attraction. Relationships have nothing to do with sexual attraction (in 99% of cases), so, why does who has a girlfriend matter? Most women are never sexually attracted to their boyfriends or husbands. The relationship is just them selling sexual access in exchange for some other benefit, whether it is material, status, or whatever.

>>82938751
>The relationship is just them selling sexual access in exchange for some other benefit, whether it is material, status, or whatever.
Basically what you're saying is that relationships have purposes and benefits other than sex, which is just the normal bluepill view only you've shrouded it in transactional language to make it sound more sinister and made up a statistic about 99% of women not being attracted to their boyfriends at all.

>>82938810
>Basically what you're saying is that relationships have purposes and benefits other than sex,
Sure, for women, because sex with most men has a negative value to all women. Therefore the woman must get something else from the man in order to participate in the relationship, just like how a prostitute requires payment to have sex with a man.

>made up a statistic about 99% of women not being attracted to their boyfriends at all.
Most men are below 6 feet which automatically renders them sexually unattractive to all women. Most men also do not have visible six pack abs which also renders them sexually unattractive to all women. It's absurdly easy to become absolutely sexually repulsive to women. Even one small flaw can do it.

>>82934081
>Is the blackpill basically confirmed at this point?
Of course. Inceldom is now mainstream. Hence averagecels are a thing.
It's only getting worse too, as along as fuck apps and social media still exist.

>>82934509
There are more garbage women than good men tho so the good men will get bred out of the gene pool leaving only mediocre women

>>82934081
>I have seen many a study proving "blackpill ideology"
No you haven't. No such study exists. Everything "blackpill" is a lie. Everything.

>>82934081
>The percentage of 18- to 24-year-old men who were sexually inactive in the past year increased from 18.9% in 2000-2002 to 30.9% in 2016-2018
And the percentage of women who were sexually inactive is even higher. You are a liar, like all incels.

>>82934081
Its real as someone who has gotten attention from women solely from my looks.

>>82934102
Why should "genetic garbage females" reproduce?

>>82939364
>Inceldom is now mainstream.
Lol no. It is, and will always be, a tiny fringe movement on the internet and nothing more.

>>82939596
Wrong. Many incels are normies now. Doesn't matter how in denial about their inceldom they are.
Their dry spells are turning into years. Some average-looking men will never fuck again, and they are nowhere near old age.

The actual answer to the blackpill? Men that are successful at building things, defending things, need to brutalize performative males.

You know the type, the men that go to college for useless degrees and get all the girls while you grind away with real study. The men that work dead end jobs and get all the girls while you're grinding away in the military. The men that stay at home playing xbox or playstation while you're grinding away at a factory or another essential full time job. They type of guy that earns a paycheck from a non-job like social media, a podcast, being a news anchor, an actor, a pop musician.

For the poor ones, it isn't enough that they have lower access to material goods because they have less money, these types of men that aren't productive and aren't earning anything need to be locked out from accessing vagina in general. For the presently well off ones like movie stars, their wealth needs to be confiscated and they should be placed in penal colonies for a life of hard labor.


>"anon, you're crazy, this is a revenge of the nerds situation, its absurd!"
What I'm saying is what Zarp describes in "The technological republic" He went to college with peter thiel and along with musk build paypal. He has the ear of this administration and controls the direction of Palantir.

>>82935252
He has insane social capital. Social capital should not be utilized to access vagina. He is a performative male.

Be careful anon , you are going to infuriate the next school shooter .

>>82934804
Degrees and education don't matter when academia has been infiltrated by their self serving ideology and turned into an indoctrination camp for female supremacy and literal eugenics rather than a place of learning.

>>82938372
>ignores the dozens of links to studies posted in the thread
>instead blames incels for not trying
Just keep ignoring the evidence that disagrees with you bro

>>82939664
That requires bloody revolution

>>82939521
>And the percentage of women who were sexually inactive is even higher
Source needed. Even if that is somehow true (it isn't), women have been known to lie about their sexual history. Even if they're not the case, it's likely due to personal choice. Women aren't attracted to most men so they will have less sex if they can't get Chad.

>>82934081
self-fulfilling prophecy and self-correcting problem.

men who avoid women will not have sex.
men who socialize will have sex.
the men who have sex will more likely have kids. withing 1 full generation you will see the blackedpill disappear and a new form of traditionalism rise. none of the parents at my own kids school talk or think like any of the retards I encounter here.

>>82939865
That only applies to incels. They choose how many people they have sex with.

>>82939882
Sounds cool, unfortunately you have no source and the actual studies prove you wrong. Denying the facts you don't like doesn't make them any less true

>>82939958
If you need a study to tell you whether you will have sex, its over. The irony is that you ignore all the studies that show exactly how to find women and maintain a strong marriage.

>>82939882
The rl consequences of blackpill will reduce civilisation to a smoking ruin.
The only rule is everything always gets worse. Welcome to the decline

>>82939958
>Actual studies say that almost all men are fat lazy slobs
>This means you have to be fat if you are a man
Anon...

You can blame systemic racism or whatever for why its so common for men to be retarded, but you don't have to deny facts to just see what happens to retarded men.

>>82939963
>The irony is that you ignore all the studies that show exactly how to find women and maintain a strong marriage.

In a study on Tinder, over 60% of female profiles were liked. Only 4.5% of male profiles were liked
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104

Facial attractiveness and athleticism were the only thing to determine female attraction, whilst male attraction was correlated with several personality traits to a higher degree
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1467-6494.2009.00570.x

A man's physical attractiveness significantly predicted his romantic popularity. Potential for financial success, friendliness, responsibility, trustworthiness, leadership, academic success, and parental qualities did not
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29506449/

Tall men are more reproductively successful
https://www.nature.com/articles/35003107

84% of women preferred a romantic partner taller than them
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-4168/1/3/17

From a speed dating study, women were most likely to choose a speed-dater 25 cm taller than themselves, whereas men were most likely to choose women only 7 cm shorter than themselves
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347213001590

A greater height difference in a couple was positively related to the wife's happiness
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2015.11.039

Women are most satisfied when their partner was 21 cm taller, whereas men are most satisfied when they were 8 cm taller than their partner
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

The key to a successful relationship: be hot and tall

>>82939964
Yes, it will get worse for the worst parts of society. This isn't the first time we had some major shift in lifestyles and gender wars memes. The people who adapted will thrive obviously.

>>82939976
>Actual studies say that almost all men are fat lazy slobs
Source: trust me anon

>>82939987
>be hot and tall
None of your successfully married friends are hot or tall.

>>82939989
>just adapt harder bro
So when incel hits 70% will it be a problem? How about 80? When do you stop acting like its not a systemic problem?

>>82939997
>Source: trust me anon
Based on what?

>>82934081
The ultimate blackpill is the periodpill. Women become really attracted to tall muscular and rude Chads on their period

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2394562/

>>82940012
>None of your successfully married friends are hot or tall.
The only friend of mine that's in a serious relationship is tall and decent looking lmao

>>82940018
All systemic problems are still just individual choices. Do I want the government to ban porn and encourage people to go outside? Yeah I'll vote for it but I'm still going to "adapt harder" for my own life. LDAR is funny, it's not a problem for most people at all.

>>82940032
>only has one friend in a serious relationship
ah, interesting. you must be fun at parties.

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>>82934102
Tranny hands typed this post, and (You) fell for it.

>>82940018
>When do you stop acting like its not a systemic problem?
He will never because he's a boomer idiot who thinks men just play too many videogames nowadays. He has his predetermined belief based on no actual facts nor data, he just wants to live in happy world where sexual selection is actually just a meritocracy. These people are fucking retards who can never be convinced.

>>82940036
Cool, thanks for confirming that no level of inceldom in society could get you to admit the need for change

>>82940041
>my meaningless appeal to anecdote didn't work? I'm just going to make a sparky remark that doesn't even make sense in this context
When will you realize that you're a retard who should kill himself

>>82940054
>no level of inceldom and femceldom in society
Correct. Identity politics are retarded.

>>82940050
Boomers really need to die. I fucking hate them so much

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>>82934081
female sexual preferences have been known for a very long time

>>82940067
But idpol is the only justification for not killing all non white people.

Wait that sounds good

>>82940058
1. What do you mean by "when"? You're some random porn addict on the internet, we never talked before and we probably never will again.
2. It seems like your life is in shambles, not mine. Only one (1) friend who is married? Peak yikes.

>>82940082
Yes, and I have also heard these retards cling so hard to their identity as incels by saying incels who eventually go outside and have sex were never actual incels to begin with. And they say femcels aren't true incels, it's all over.

>>82940070
I'm just ignoring him from now on. It's always the same circular reasoning and begging the question from them

> It seems like your life is in shambles, not mine. Only one (1) friend who is married? Peak yikes.
Alas the goalposts have moved significantly
>it's your fault that you only have one friend in a relationship

>>82934081
>Is the blackpill basically confirmed at this point?
No. The black pill is inaccurate. It's right in asserting that looks are very important to male attractiveness, it's wrong in asserting that it's the only thing that matters, or that it's even the most important variable. High socioeconomic status will get you more pussy than looks. None of the sources you linked support the foundational claim of the black pill, that looks are the only thing that matters. The red pill is closer to the truth than the black pill.

>>82940098
You're right anon the nigger problem is more pressing than the bitch problem. Lets lynch some niggers and take up this incel thing later

>>82934081
>In a study on Tinder, over 60% of female profiles were liked. Only 4.5% of male profiles were liked
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0272775719301104
It's a brutal study, but you're misrepresenting the data slightly. What the study is saying:
About 60% of male profiles matched at least once while only 4.5% of female profiles, and that's an important distinction to make. This means that only a very small subset of female profiles are matching at all. Basically, it implies men are liking nearly everyone, while women are liking almost no one, and thus it's a small fraction of women who are matching with a very large number of men

>>82940240
>it's a small fraction of women who are matching with a very large number of men
"Indeed, male subjects (super)liked 61.9% of the female evaluated profiles, while female subjects (super)liked only 4.5% of the male evaluated profiles."
You are blatantly lying killyourself

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>>82940261
You didn't read the whole thing I take it? Or maybe you're just dumb. Tell me retard, what does "Match (proportion of all observations)" mean to you? lol

>>82940291
"For this study, we created 24 fictitious Tinder profiles in multiple cities in Flanders, the northern, Dutch-speaking region of Belgium. We only let these profiles differ on our characteristic of interest, i.e. education level, which was randomly assigned to the 24 fictitious profiles."
They're matching with fake profiles that are matching with every profile they can. Therefore, over 60% of males matched with the fake profiles that try to match with everyone while women only liked 5% of the fake profiles that try to match with everyone. Tell me retard, did you not read the methodology or are you choosing to be a fucking idiot?

Another blackpill that you'll see women talking about non-stop on facebook comments, is them being enraged at how little support they get from their husbands.
Just non stop, constant whining that they had kids with men they dont love, that make them angry. There always comes the inevitable post from a man "why did you even have sex with that guy if he's so awful, why not have kids with someone else?" Then they have a meltdown.
A few women are more honest, or dumb maybe and can't see how bad it comes off, and simply start talking about how they wish they could have one husband for sex and having kids, and another one for living with and being supported by. These types of comments, on facebook with their real names and faces, get tons of hearts and upvotes from women.

Women often talk about how some men want a whore and a maid. But they are projecting. Women want a breeding stud, and a secondary drone ant desexed and castrated worker bee that can also be talked down to and bullied. Women love bullying and beating down emotionally on others.

>>82934081
>in the past year increased from
an increase implies their could be a decrease also. Things do not always work in one direction otherwise humanity would have gone extinct after major viral outbreaks or disasters, and yet baby booms occurred.

>Tinder
Has been busted several times cooking the books and making a large amount of fake female profiles to bait users in. They are not a good metric other than showing a good amount 30something men can be suckered out of money.

>data from 1989 shows just 14 percent of men of the same age range reporting no sex
Looking over the 89 report they are not factoring in locations where the data was taken nor are they expressing the difference in cultural hook ups.

>unpartnered heterosexual men in the U.S. met an average of 2.4 partners for dating or sex in the past 12 months. Unpartnered heterosexual women who were actively dating met an average of 5.1 partners in the past 12 months
looking at the data, it seems to be accounting on anonymous dating site profile survey so it's on level of a shitposter here claiming to be a girl.

>In a speed dating survey, men want to see about five women again, while women only choose to see two men again
I won't put time looking over this because that makes sense for the genders, if a guy is using speed dating, his desperate for any meat he can get, if a women is using it she's getting really picky with the guys she wants.

ALWAYS remember that about dating apps and services, the guys that use them have ran out of options or are to scared to look irl, and women using them are wanting something very specific otherwise they just hook up with a class mate, coworker that seem nice enough. Women don't start using dating apps until they know exactly what they want.

>56% of men in Japan reported sexlessness and only 11% reported having casual sex
That's about on par for both genders but it's harder for me to find the expressed data on that survey.

I have no dog in this fight

>>82940075
I have seen all of this throughout school and university. I was one of the humiliated B-males. Coincidentally I am a sexless late 20s male

>>82940075
So shouldn't women be having more babies right now as violence and crime escalates in the west?

>>82940735
They are. Birth rates have only barely fallen along with the economy in the west. They'll recover as soon as food and housing are attainable by the average person again.

If the blackpill is disproven then that means I wasted my 30 years of life on nothing. Luckily I can go on r/shortguys and remind myself that yes, all women hate manlets

>>82939633
Nobody knows any incels in real life. They only exist on the internet. They have no jobs, and are generally failures in life.

>>82940818
Is the cope you need to tell yourself to justify your worldview

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>>82939865
You already decided you don't want to be true, so no matter how many facts and data you are given, you won't accept the truth. You incels are literally a cult. A cult preying on low IQ, easily manipulated men.

There are more sexless women than men. This is a FACT. A very simple fact that completely destroys the incel narrative.

>>82939987
I don't get why incels keep spamming height stuff. It was proven than incels are actually taller than average.

>>82940075
>a study on female sexual preferences written by Dr. Incel of the Pseudoscience University
>sources: his ass
>location: never left his basement

>>82940825
>There are more sexless women than men
>he actually believes women about how much they have sex

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>>82934102
Yeah, okeh anon. Sure. Lets just forget about fisherian runaway involved in any species where the egg carriers choose. Lets just forget about peacocks. Lets just pretend it's all working out for the better.
>>82934081

>>82940858
>noooo that data can't be true because it goes against my incel beliefs!

>>82940825
>A very simple fact that completely destroys the incel narrative
Citing one survey that agrees with you doesn't make it a fact. Other surveys show different results.
https://www.newsweek.com/number-virgins-america-hits-record-high-2022266

But, I'll steelman your argument and assume that the statement "there are more sexless women than men". How does this "completely destroy the incel narrative"? Most incels mention constantly that women have higher standards than men, which has been shown constantly by other studies. It makes sense that many women would be sexless if they have high standards and voluntarily choose to not have much sex.

So how does that "debunk" the blackpill? You are the low IQ one here.

>>82940903
>Conclusion: Women select for Low IQ
This retarded incel cope is very easily debunked. Incels all have low IQ. If this were true, incels would be getting all the girls and chads would be virgins.

>>82940917
>The number of sexual partners a woman reported nearly doubled when women thought they were hooked up to a lie detector machine.
https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/239672/original/Alexander+%26+Fisher+%282003%29.pdf
Let's see your cope. Is this data false because it goes against your beliefs?

>>82940938
>Women select for low IQ
Yes.
Sexlessness correlates with IQ https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2418257122

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>>82940759
But we're just entering the recession now, anon.

>>82940944
That study has absolutely nothing to do with your claim. You're once again proving incels have very low intelligence and have zero scientific literacy. Every study so far has shown there are more sexless women than men. Why is this so hard for you to accept?

>>82940968
>Every study so far has shown there are more sexless women than men
Once again not true, and even if it were that doesn't debunk the blackpill in the slightest
https://www.newsweek.com/number-virgins-america-hits-record-high-2022266
All anti-incel soldiers are just low IQ retards like yourself that parrot the same statements ad nauseum.

>>82940956
Another low IQ scientifically illiterate incel. That paper barely mentions IQ. When it does, it does not say that women select for low IQ.

Again, this is very easy to debunk. All incels have low IQ. So why are they not getting women?

>>82940968
>That study has absolutely nothing to do with your claim.
His claim was that women are not trustworthy when it comes to their sexual history, which is proven by the study showing their self-reported body count doubled once they believed they were hooked up to a lie detector test. Sorry that you don't like the conclusions of the study, go cry in a corner if you're having such an emotional reaction to a study.

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>>82934102
Foids will say this and then have Chris Chan's child

Sexual selection is not the same as natural selection, and bitches be retarded

>>82941001
>That paper barely mentions IQ
It mentions it several times and the results can be seen in figure 3. Are you actually this scientifically illiterate?

>>82941001
You come across like a seething foid.

>>82941058
It's either a seething foid or seething submale, regardless they seem to have left the thread after getting brutally owned with facts and logic

>>82941001
>All incels have low IQ
Newton was incel, so kill yourself.

>>82934081
The blackpill has been proven.
The blackpill has not yet been swallowed.

>>82941079
Newton was not an incel. Neither was Tesla. Low IQ incel cope is just unbelievable. Incels like Elliot are low IQ.

>>82941240
You're sounding like an incel rightn ow

>>82941079
Newton was gay.

>>82941240
If incels are so low IQ then why did you stop responding to the posters posting links and debunking your shit? You got BTFO.

>>82941240
>pretending that normalfags differentiate between incels and virgins
Peak dishonesty. If Tesla were alive today he'd be called the Incel Inventor or something.

>>82941334
Tesla quite literally had women wanting his d. He turned them all down.

>>82941334
He literally had women throwing themselves at him.

>>82941345
>>82941349
Incels have women get interested in them too, but they turn them down or ignore them and that's why they are incels. Isn't that what you people believe?

>>82941361
You're so fucking retarded

>>82941361
Aw the same spammer in this thread isn't gonna like this one

>>82941280
Watch that homophobia, foid

>>82941385
Kek get brutally owned, anti incels just can't compete and have to resort to cope and insults

>>82941361
>Incels
This implies he wanted to have sex. There is no indication that he tried. Probably secretly gay like the guy in op.

>>82941401
You don't know what incel means bleed and die

>>82941404
>simp for women, or you're gay
It's getting old

>>82940938
>This retarded incel cope is very easily debunked. Incels all have low IQ. If this were true, incels would be getting all the girls and chads would be virgins.
Well the thing is that even if you're right, runaway selection rather than natural selection is not a good thing. If men keep getting taller, they're going to have heart problems and back issues and ultimately a lot of other problems, just like pugs. Females don't select for survival traits like males do, because males just fucked anything that's alive. We're just going to get more sickly and more peacock-like as women preen out all of the triats that actually matter for survival for the sake of their selfish reproductive pleasure.

We, as men, will literally turn into violent sex toys who don't live past 40 if it goes on like this for too long. It's a desecration of our genetics as a species. I don't want my children's children to be walking penises the size of skyscraper. I want them to live happy and healthy lives.

>>82941410
You got BTFO and stopped responding to anyone in this thread who actually pushed back on your claims.

>>82941429
Issacs Newton didn't simp for women. I know, probably trying to force some weird thesis you wrote in art school. Newton never cared for women. It's probably because, at best, he was Asexual.

>>82941240
Low IQ people are more likely to breed that high IQ people. What is this cope?

>>82941489
Note that anon, but Tesla famously loved hookers.

>>82941513
Actually that's wrong. Read a book.

>>82941524
It's not. I've read more books on these people than the amount of cuck porn you jerk your tiny cock to.

>>82941550
>is a retard that gets everything wrong
>"errrrm I actually read so many books"
lmao

This thread has once more proven that incels are right and foids are fucking stupid who should never be taken seriously

>>82941404
Tesla was most likely asexual. Newton was either gay or asexual.

>>82941489
>Low IQ people are more likely to breed that high IQ people.
The movie Idiocracy was not a documentary. At least not yet.

>>82941680
Are you blind? Read the thread, several studies have been posted showing that women select against IQ and for violent men

>>82941572
No argument against cuck porn huh?

>>82941669
Newton was likely gay curiousish but more leaning aromantic asexual due to his autism.

>>82941334
So... where is the Incel Inventory of today? The Incel Scientist? The Incel Artist? The Incel Sportsman? Hmmmmm. It's like the only "incel" type that exists is the incel neet.

>>82941689
Now you're just outright lying. None of the studies posted said that. Just low IQ incels who are scientifically illiterate posting outright lies. Again, all incels have low IQ. They should have women swarming them if what you said were true.

>>82941704
>Why aren't people in position of influence proudly proclaiming themselves to be incels?
Gee anon, that's a real headscratcher. Maybe these guys are just quietly doing their things while coping with loneliness how they can.

>>82941728
Or maybe anyone who identifies as an incel is a failure at life and will never hold any position of influence?

>>82941713
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=birth+rates+vs+iq

What do you get out of telling lies that can be disproven with a simple google search?

>>82941742
>I may be alone, but at least i'm not an incel
>I may be falling, but at least i'm not in the air
Once again, you people don't discriminate. A virgin is a virgin is an incel.

>>82941762
>A virgin is a virgin is an incel.
We don't live in a world where magic exists. No one knows you're a virgin unless you go around telling people. Stop pretending like people who are virgin have some sort of magical marker on their head.

>>82941762
Incels are 0.001% of virgins.

>>82941784
>He thinks people can't tell
lmao you think women don't talk about the weird guy over in the other cubicle?

>>82941811
No one says this until they're called out for punching down at sexually inexperienced men. They don't actually believe this.

>>82941824
>cubicle
Yeah no, incels don't have jobs. And that weird guy in the cubicle is married.

>>82941824
I'm a women and have an office job. At no point in my life had women talked about a random guys virginity.

>>82941866
Incels don't actually ever leave the basement. They base their ideas on what the world is outside from fantasies of other basement-dwelling incels who have never had a job or been on a date.

>>82941866
No one cares dumb bitch
Women gossip significantly more about men's physical appearances than men gossip about women's physical appearances
https://doi.org/10.1007/s11199-012-0160-4

>>82941698
>errrrm, you didn't take my bait
Post your beef flaps or leave

>>82941866
Of course not, because their language changes with age. Once you get the office job stage its no longer about virginity, but he's 'creepy' or he 'makes us uncomfortable'. It's all the same thing however in practice, and all directed at the same men.

>>82941883
What would you say to an incel that has a job and has asked girls out before?

>>82941900
Such incels don't exist.

ITT we have "women hating" incels that love giving retarded females attention and entertaining their braindead attempts at forming some form of coherent argument.
Did you know you can just type "tits or gtfo" and you instantly win any argument against attention whores?

>>82942044
Nta but 6.2, working in finance (fund industry), ive never had a gf and never had a girl be interested in me ever. What do

>>82942151
Have you ever asked a girl out? Or created a dating site/app account?

>>82942167
>asked a girl out
Yes back in college now i donteet women anymore despite going to bars, hobby groups etc because they dont attend those
>dating apps
Did it last year, never got a single actual match/convo.
Not bald or fat btw

>>82942193
So you've never actually tried to get a girl. That is the common trait of all incels. They make excuses for not trying.

>>82942212
>tried to get girls
I tried in college, now i dont get to leet any at all. I also went on multiple dating apps and never got a single match
What more do you want
>you didnt tey bro
>just let le ignore every time you did

>>82942220
But broooo you didn't actually try broooo you need to get rejected and humiliated at least a billion times before you can say youve tried broooo. Take a shower and get a haircut brooo

>>82942220
If you got zero matches then your profile must have been awful. Clearly you are doing something wrong. Why not run your profile through one of the threads on /soc/ meant for it?

>>82942252
no part of this guy thinks its abnormal to have to game your profile to a professional level just to get any attention at all.

>>82942269
>professional level
It's literally never been easier than today to find girls. You are just making excuses for not trying.

>>82942252
>then your profileust have been awful
My profile was fine. A coworker and a friend helped me set it up. Therrs just no way to date if youre ugly
>through one of the threads on /soc/ meant for it
Dont wanna doxx myself and ive had two trusted people who are used to dating apps review it.
And before you throw those memes in yes i do shower and groom multiple times a day, i must wear asuit every week day.
I also go to church (its all men and old peple), bars (same), hobby clubs (same), language and dance classes (same)

>>82942311
>waaah I'm ugly so I can't get a gf
The worst excuse ever. Go outside and you will see plenty of men far uglier than you who have girlfriends or wives.

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>>82942328
I think this is unironically true, and that's because dating apps and job finder apps use anti-white algorithms.

>>82942328
>Go outside and you will see plenty of men far uglier than you who have girlfriends or wives.
Not him and yes, this is certainly true. However the vast majority of these ugly men have ugly women. I have a guy at my workplace who is short, bald, chubby and wears glasses. His wife somehow manages to be worse. Obese, slightly taller than him and with a nearly deformed, manly face. Almost no man would want something like that. Having an ugly gf is a very humiliating experience and it will only be enjoyable if you happen to have a fetish for something about her.

>>82942305
>It's literally never been easier than today to find girls.
>just ignore you cant find them anywhere and that every community is just old people and young men
>>82942328
>will see plenty of men far uglier than you who have girlfriends or wives
My job implies going out, i also do it in my free time and can confirm i have never seen an ugly guy with a gf or wofe unless he is visibly rich

>>82942328
>Go outside and you will see plenty of men far uglier than you who have girlfriends or wives.
I genuinely never see this with young guys EVER

>>82942370
Possibly the ugliest guy I personally know is a co-workers. He's obese, his face is like a donkey's ass, he's loud and gross and people don't like him. Still somehow he manages to have a decent looking wife.

>>82942269
>>82942311
>>82942370
>>82942388
Have you tried moving out of your shithole small towns? Its litteraly impossible to be an incel if you live in a major city.
So just move to london/new york or something.

>>82942387
>i have never seen an ugly guy with a gf
I guess because you never go outside. The actual reason "ugly" men that incels think they are have a hard time attracting girls is because they are insufferable whiny cunts. Nobody wants to be around someone who only spergs out negativity all day long.

>>82942473
I do go out all the time for both professional reasons or just to have fun. Never seen an ugly guy and not visibly rich guy with a gf
>woman can smell your anonymous posts on r9k
Meanwhile irl ive gotten my job by cracking jokes during the interview and thats how i am at all times safe for this forum.
As i said above, never had a single girl be into me, never had a single date.

>>82942472
That could work for him, that might not,its all anecdotal anyway

>>82942472
>>82942580
>just move to london or new york
I tried but visas are a thing and they dont give them to yuropoors

>>82942498
>I'm only an angry annoying sperg on the internet, in real life I'm the most likable guy on the planet
We've all heard that countless times. There is something about you that repels women. From how insufferable and punchable you are over the internet, it's pretty clear why girls also avoid you in real life.

>>82942472
I live in a 200K+ city, and I don't see ugly young white guys with girlfriends

>>82942632
>its impossible to be an incel brooo
>actually youre too ugly/poor/give bad chakra no wonder women dont want you

>>82942498
You give creep/ loser vibes lmao. Thats why. Litteraly just lift and go to therapy.

>>82942632
>women are able to sense your misogynistic comments on anonymous forums and that's why you're incel
Sure, just keep making up more post-hoc justifications. That will win you the argument

>>82942755
They can tell though. Your pathetic incel loser mindset influences your behavior. Also you prob look like shit too.

>>82942736
>therapy
Reddit is such a shithole, I wish it would stop leaking

>>82942769
Insulting him doesnt exactly make your argument seem right

>>82942736
I work 50 to 60 hours a week. I dont have the time nor the will to subject the rest of my meagre free time to do meaningless shit i hate.

>>82942769
>They can tell though
Sure kek
>Your pathetic incel loser mindset influences your behavior
Men find kindness attractive in women while women did not find kindness attractive in men
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167214543879
I act kind to everyone unless they wrong me, seems that's why I am an incel.

>>82942928
>Men find femininity attractive, women do not find femininity attractive
Sure, but that's obvious from birth. Men should not be trans women. Anyway, being "kind to everyone" is probably the most retarded thing I have ever heard. Would you really be attracted to a woman who wanted to be extra ***kind*** to every strange man that walked up to her? You seem like an incel who was raised on "my greatest weakness is that I am too good of a person" reddit cuckoldry.

>>82942638
Have you ever been outside? Most of them are ugly.

>>82939987
>le self reported anecdotal """study""" by dr schlomo and mr steinberg
Keep blaming everyone else for your personal failures faggot, I'm sure it'll work out eventually.

Where did all the redditors itt come from kek

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>>82944301
>Where did all the redditors itt come from
They came here from r/incel and all the nazi subshittits after they got gaped by reddit jannies lolz

>>82934851
>In reality the main thing that determines how popular among women a man is is, literally his facial features. That's it and nothing else compares. If you didn't figure this out by just going to school, you're low IQ or just very self centered and delusional, like those guys that think you can "pick up" a girl by doing cool magic tricks.
I agree it's the majority but just know manipulative men with egos aka bullies make certain women lust after a mid to ugly guy over the tall meek attractive Chad. Would this woman prefer this personality in the Chad? Absolutely. Will she even be an investment for this Chad if he was? Likely not. If you can pull the strings on women's emotions by manipulating they will tolerate so much BS out of you compared to meek Chad. Evil competent men make certain bitches attach like a two dogs fucking. I've personally seen this dynamic and I tell you it does work but I'm not an evil fuck so I don't do it.

>>82934978
>Me abused
>Me no agency
Shut up cunt unlike you I don't dismiss you have agency for your actions

>>82944165
>whatever studies disprove my worldview were written by evil jews
>>82943227
>Anyway, being "kind to everyone" is probably the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
You heard it first, being nice and agreeable is actually a bad and retarded thing.
>Would you really be attracted to a woman who wanted to be extra ***kind*** to every strange man that walked up to her?
I would like a nice woman, yes.

>>82939837
Look at what happened to Iran from the 70's to now. You think those Arab fucks were concerned about wearing blue jeans? They saw the writing on the wall and chose sacrificing technological progressive reform for access to pussy and being useful for their family they were promised.

>>82944946
Post foreskin now

>>82939882
>What is plummeting birth rates below replacement levels
>What is not showing your power level
>What is past the surface level irl vs online freedom of discussion
>What is experiences shared online and irl aligning that it's not fiction
You arrogant faggot, get a clue.

>>82934950
>Everything is apparently men's fault.
I really don't care about your faggot gender war. I just think avatarfaggots are mostly tranny losers.

>>82934798
>I don't need to explain something which isn't happening or something that will never happen lol.
it happens way more than the opposite. thank makeup for that

>>82942044
had a job,car, savings. Didn't really help me at all. Dating apps I was invisible. Started joining run clubs, skating, and sports groups. Girls I met either friendzoned me or used me. No sex. No love. Women are human garbage and i've completely given up on them. Focused now on making as much money as possible.

>>82942305
objectively not true
100 years ago you'd have your defined place in society and a wife and family handed to you just for existing
as you should
thats how its worked for most of the past 10,000 years

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B R V.T A L T R V T H N V K E

no pussy
no work
no taxes

>>82945439
Errrrm, if you don't fight this dragon then you're an INCEL, or maybe even GAY.

The foids will throw words at you endlessly to get you to work for them, but they won't offer even a sliver of pussy. Shows how much they hate us.

>>82934081
Again with this thread anon? how many times do I have to tell you: the reason why you can't penetrate a vagina isn't because of your average looks or average height, it's because you're gay

>>82934102
women will post shit like this then cry about being unsafe
civil society exists because of "genetic garbage" men not wanting humanity to be ruled by might makes right.
Go live like a raped chimp.

>>82934102
you're right but you don't want to live in that kind of world

genuinely hilarious and heartbreaking that anons itt ignored the approximately 20 sources and kept making their shitty arguments its truly over

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>>82934081
>Women with mental disorders are more likely to reproduce than men with mental disorders

I think this is a nice direction for civilization

>>82940020
>Moreover, men whose proprietary behaviours increase most dramatically during partners' fertile period are paired with women whose extra-pair sexual attraction increases most emphatically during oestrus
time to LDAR since Science says i'm basically right to be paranoid, my ultra instinct is right

>>82934081
Its called "Darwinism" you dumb fuck. This "black pill" that you losers screech about is just natural selection amongst species. Its okay to be single and socially isolated or a loner who invests in his hobbies over people. True happiness isn't a hole dumbass OP

>>82934727
the only pill after the black pill is the pink pill.
The avatarfag is a tranny which is worse than being an regular incel by miles kek

>>82934792
>its scared because it cannot deny reality
we know, the truth hurts anon.

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>>82934102
Hope you get raped and murdered by some brownoid.

>>82939664
>the men that go to college for useless degrees and get all the girls while you grind away with real study.
This wouldn't happen if the education system wasn't subverted by jews and actually did its job.

>>82942472
Hello from Moscow.

>>82934081
There's plenty of statistics you could cite that paint a grim picture of humans, but it doesn't mean everything is hopeless by any means. There are people out there who will like you, regardless, even if that's not obvious to you. Have some self-confidence.

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>>82947741
Natural selection doesnt always mean its better though for example modern women's selection process is literally synonymous to the fischerian runaway, it is "NATURAL" since this happens in nature for example a group of doe only NATURALLY reproduce with the biggest antler buck but due to that NATURAL selection what happened was the buck with the overgrown antlers werent perfectly adapter to the ecosystem they were set at and as a result the species of that specific deer went extinct, another one are peacocks, peahens NATURALLY select peacocks with the brightest feather resulting in more predation from local predatory animals, without human intervention the peacock species would literally be extinct by now. Those two animals that i have described specifically the female variant chose to reproduce from an aesthetic standpoint instead of function and progress, we can unironically see this in modern times such as women selectively choosing males with superior height or jaw structure which doesnt offer anything to the progression of humanity in general meanwhile the rejected men are more capable of running society but arent able to reproduce their gene because muh "inferior genetics n shieeet" We as modern humans progressed further from our natural tendencies but women on the other hand unironically keep setting mankind behind. Women are literally the agents of chaos described by multiple religions, the indians already had this concept of kali yuga

>pic related for coomerbait

>>82934102
>Genetic garbage males should not breed
they are though

>>82945782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB1Ed_kvZNM

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>>82948288
Why do you act as if phisical attractiveness and intelliegence are mutually exclusive traits?

>>82944969
>Iran
>Arabs
You are stupid.

>>82945298
>100 years ago you'd have your defined place in society and a wife and family handed to you just for existing
Objectively false. 100 years ago you would have been just as much of a loser, the difference is that you would have been forced to get a job. Today, anyone who doesn't choose to become an incel has easier access to women than ever before in history.

>>82948534
Physical attractiveness and intelligence are correlated. Intelligent people also tend to be more physically attractive, while ugly people tend to be dumb.

>>82948534
>Why do you act as if phisical attractiveness and intelliegence are mutually exclusive traits?

Come on now, you can literally tell if someones face is ugly or sometimes is low iq. You literally can not have both, you cant be good at a marathon and be good at sprinting at the same time look at the physique of a sprinter vs a marathoner

>>82948543
Nobody chooses who becomes an incel you are simple born as one. Like i didnt chose to be 5'4 and bangladeshi.

>>82948563
Is bangladeshi bad? i didn't even read the thread but like, i thought it was a good country, isn't it first world and all that or am i confusing it?

>>82948567
bro im literally brown, i am not indian since im bangladeshi but i am still a considered a pajeet. I would rather be some white hick born in some southern state because the fact that being white alone will let you pull alot of brown women in my country, like my own women resent me just by being the same race as them, i notice this too with east asian transfer students that resent there male counterparts just by being the same race as them

>>82934686
it's a demonstrably provable claim, you ignoramus moron.

>Did a male Podcaster tell you that?
>"i'm retardanon and i devise my entire worldview based on internet memes, therefore so do you"

one look at observable reality will tell you that. women shoot themselves in the foot by claiming to be eugenics personified, like you're trying to do, only for statistics showing that fertility and IQ are inversely correlated to rear their heads and insert themselves squarely up your asshole until you start crying. women routinely select for psychopathic traits in mate selection which are not conducive at all to advancing human civilization, drug dealers, ex cons and gangbangers don't have trouble convincing retarded women to dump a load of retard monkey DNA inside them at all. hell, women fuck dogs. you are a bunch of apex degenerate morons who if left to your own devices would unceremoniously end advanced human civilization (which you're trying REALLY hard to do, as it stands) and if given leadership roles over nations wage wars over shoe sales and who has a taller boyfriend.

>>82948582
That's fucking rough, i thought the whole "muh white supremacy" thing was only prevalent in america and europe, come to Brazil if you can, everyone here is mixed so there isn't much of that here

>>82934804
credentialism is a red herring. "educated and smart" merely means someone sat through a course they paid money for and received a piece of paper at the end saying they repeated what was said to them to a sufficient enough degree that they earn a credential. the standards for what constitutes "educated and smart" were vastly different 50 years ago, and those standards are still somewhat rigorously upheld in fields that actually still matter like STEM, of which you will find zero female representation no matter how much money is poured into funding pro-female STEM initiatives.

people like you are never high agency individuals, autonomous or high resolution thinkers, you outsource all of your thinking to some nebulous academic consensus or other or a person who has been accredited and deemed socially proofed enough to enforce the status quo. you really are a species of unanimously 100 IQ average mediocrities.

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>>82948591
>come to Brazil if you can
So from what you just said white men there literally have no JBW powers? because here in south and east asia all the expat white guys can literally just ask a random brown girl and start hooking up like ordering a pizza from dominos. Honestly bro i dont even know what to do with my life anymore, i literally wake up with a mixture of sorrow, defeat and anger everytime i look at the mirror, it came to the point were i literally volunteer for overtime just so i could be more tired and sleep easily whenever i go back home, unironically my welding job is what keeps me sane. Like i dont even care for white women at all i just want a women to love me for who i am i tried even approaching this girl who kept making snapchat stories how the universe is against her and all she wants is love and guess what i got rejected by said girl who is looking for someone lmao. Once i got into blackpill its hard for me to accept women for who and what they are i always try to see them in a good way by they are making it so hard for me to do so, like all they have to do is be nice but for some reason they tend to fail this very simple task. I will never experience pic related its only for a few select of men

>>82945011
>I really don't care about your faggot gender war.

the faggot culture warrior said an entire 24 hours after the last post was made. if you didn't care you wouldn't have come back to this thread to seethe some more. you can't pretend to be cool and aloof and above it all when you're this hung up on random comments from a random anon in a thread that is ultimately full of spam, you dumb faggot.

>>82948621
I mean, i've never really seen a girl from here be obsessed with white men in specific, they like men who are taller than them and attractive, but being tan and having darker skin is also considered attractive here for quite a bit of them, i've also seen a lot of guys shorter than me(i'm 5'6) managing to get casual sex on partied so i'd say it's probably atleast better than bangladesh? i mean like, it's just that the culture here for young people is get drunk, go to baile funks, do drugs and have sex in quite a lot of regions, so you being involved in that it's just a matter of time to get something, about dating i'm not sure, i've been trying to find a prospect wife for quite some time now, if i wanted to lose my virginity i could have done it though

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>>82948556
>be pic rel
>6'8 tall
>one of the best rulers in history
>considered attractive by women
>had lots of affairs with women

>>82948647
Ah i see, well from your response i think i will have a chance over there at brazil but im not looking for a one night hookup stand i just want a decent women but from my theory the women over there might be just having fun in their early 20's but once reality hits and they are at their mid 30's or early 40's now they want to be a good wife and find someone. All i want is a women who would love me for who i am and of course no body count for me 1 body count is too much, in fact am i asking too much? well i think i may be but its fair since i have never been with a women at all and i have experience in welding (my current job) and carpentry

>>82948648
You just proved my point, he's literally tall thats why women found him appealing and of course what did he contribute to humanity? having a seat in the senate isnt even the same as albert einsteins invention and etc he is no different than modern day celebrities being simped by women just by being physically attractive

>>82948655
Nah i get you, i'm on the same fucking boat you are, the reason i'm not tied down to someone is that i want to marry another virgin like i am and dislike casual sex, and yeah quite a lot of them do the settling thing here when they're older, but a lot of them don't, like, they have sex with some guy they like and marry him even if he isn't the habitual chad, people here just enjoy casual sex a lot for some reason? i'd try to help you on finding a wife but like, i'm also still looking dude, i know they exist just not sure where

>>82948667
>i know they exist just not sure where
I still have that mentality where i know a tiny portion of women like that still exist but its getting dark out here, my copes are running dry and it can last only so long

>>82948663
Bro he literally reformed the entirety of russia under a couple of decades and turned it from being a literally who country into the strongest military power in continental europe.

>>82948685
yeah im sure its all him definetely not his foot soldiers and infantryman who did 99% of all the work also even his advisors and tactician didnt even get the credit its all on him. Think critically for once

>>82948681
Might be because i'm on the younger side being 19 but i still have a decent amount of hope, doesn't make being lonely and having nobody hurt less but like, i keep trying, i hope we'll all get there someday anon

>>82948696
You to man, from what i see in my life the younger you get with someone it is better since alot of people from my age (i am 28 yrs old) are already with someone from high school and are happily married and some are still having fun and hooking up, all of the successful marriage i have seen where the ones that were together since high school or from a young age since a women from that age period has less or maybe zero feminism brainwashing and usually will be more submissive and loyal to their husband

>>82948695
Yea bro sure bro, Eintein came up with the theory of relativity all alone bro, its not like his teachers who taught him how to even read contributed or anything bro it was all him bro, he taught himself math when he was 8 years old bro its not like his parents contributed or anything by providing for him bro while he was in school bro all credit to him bro

>>82948715
>Einstein
It is all him though because if it wasnt him then his teachers and mentors would have came up with the theory of relativity. Even if he wasnt taught any of those he will eventually come up with an idea leading to it, its not a question of if but a question of when