For me, its when they vaporized 114,000 Japanese civilians.
Actually one of the least bad things we've done, fuck Japan. Anyway I realized when I was in elementary school and figured out that maybe we didn't just share corn with the natives (we also shared smallpox and genocided them as a treat).
You're a fucking tard LMAO acting like the Japanese didn't celebrate the rape of Nanjing and didn't do other bullshit Japan deserved it stupid fucking weeb thinks that Japan is a utopia whenever it refuses to admit its wrongs in the past: look up unit 731, and you'll see how bad Japan was. I think Japan finally got what it had coming.
>>82961860You understand anon you have a very fair point. The natives didn't really do anything to get killed and terrorized the way they did.
>>82961875The ones who suffered most were just innocent civilians that didn't personally do any of that shit. People are not their governments. Being born and raised in a country doesn't automatically make you approve of every evil thing the individuals in your country's government have done (unless you're a retard patriot I guess).
>When did you realise America is the bad guyWhen they let 9/11 happen, so they could fight illegal wars for resources and put their military-industrial complex on steroids foeever.Then they let the evil Red Chinese into the WTO to undercut the planet. 2001 is a year that will live in infamy, for both those reasons.
>>82961833As soon as they got here they started a continent wide genocide of everyone that already lived here, manifest destiny is just cruel barbarism with the pathetic excuse that "god told us we're his favorites and it's our turn on the xbox because he said so"
>>82962033Man shut your bitch ass up, I know for a fact you were cheering like a football fan when you saw those videos of Iranian missiles smoking Tel Aviv
>>82962070the interesting part is that the people that "already lived here" had recently genocided everyone that had already lived here before that.
>>82961833what, and not genociding thousands of injuns? america was the great satan before they even had independence lmao. Most countries suck though, all of history is various countries smoking others for gain. They could have bombed a military base but quite literally wanted to use it in a highly destructive environment to test their shiny new toy.
>>82962081indians also fucking sucked, they were scalping and raping each other until america came along as the bigger tribe, fuck everyone really
>>82962081>erm there were tribal conflicts b4 we showed up, so us coming in and literally eradicating an entire continent of people and their culture was akhtually le heckin holsumstfu man holy shit, this lame ass excuse doesn't work on anybody except braindead amerilards like yourself
>>82962109The natives didn't deserve to be genocided though. This is the same excuse Zionists use to justify killing Palestinians.
>>82962114>this lame ass excusewhat is your country, subhuman?let's see the excuses you came up with
>>82962133I'm a native Frenchman you faggot, my people migrated in waves from neanderthals to indo-europeans to the proto-celtic peoples to the gauls to the latins and so on and so forth. Each people group gradually adopted the culture and inbred with the locals, and yeah there was war, but a mass extermination campaign like with the founding of America? No goddamn way. I can trace my neanderthal dna back generations, you probably don't have a lick of the red man in you. Not to mention the gradual evolution of France happened over thousands of years, you cleansed and replaced a continent within a century. America is a fucked up shitty country, no two ways about it.
>>82962191>Frenchman>a fucking frog talking shit about genocides and shitting on the nativesHow many more massacres are you going to commit in the future to get your uranium, frenchie?
>>82962209Not enough to deplete the sahel of niggers, go back to England cowboy XD.
>>82962230Yeah that's what I thought mulatto-mutt.Those niggers weren't even scalping and raiding, just being niggers in their shithole. Guess your shithole nigger-mutt country is the great satan, huh?
>>82962114>>82962191>>82962124This and this. Nothing excuses what those guys did, and the colonialists created uniquely apocalyptic conditions for the native people just minding their own business here. American patriotism is for 'tards.
>>82961833>When did you realise America is the bad guyI'm an American and I think when it really hit me was when I became redpilled about slavery and how it's the origin of sooooooooooooooo much trouble in our national timeline. Once you learn about the South vs. North divide you begin to understand that this nation has always consisted of 2 groups of individuals and that both groups absolutely hate one another and refuse to cooperate.
To be honest, I've always known my country is evil. Founded on bloodshed, indigenous genocide, racism, classism, homophobia, and ruthless cutthroat capitalism. It is evil.There was a time I did believe in the good of the people of the united states. We delivered food and medical aid to countries and in need -- free of charge. For better or worse, we were the bulwark of the west against other powers. Advancements in science, medicine, the arts -- many of these things trace their roots back to the United States. Now? I don't recognize my country even a little bit. We're no longer "trying to hide" our authoritarian regime. It makes me fucking sick.
>>82961833>vaporizedYou mean a day-long firebombing campaign where they burned down an entire city using hundreds of airplanes? Just like in Dresden?
>>82962252>Nothing excuses what those guys didThe "genocide" in the south with relocation arguably was to save them because they were actually going to be genocided if they continued with the shit that they were doing.Indian war parties raided farms and settlements, the Whites were out for blood, and they would have been killed. There was not an "apocalyptic conditions" that they were living under, war parties were just a regular thing amongst those tribes, between each other.
>>82962280>To be honest, I've always known my country is evil. Founded on bloodshed, indigenous genocide, racism, classism, homophobiaWhy is this evil? This describes literally every group of people on the entire planet since the dawn of mankind, with the only exception being Europeans in the last 200 years. Everyone else still does this / would if they could, especially brownoids. Doesn't that make your country the least evil, and all others more evil...? Retard.
>>82962109>They were already being violent towards eachother! And violence is bad.... That's why they deserved OUR violence 100000000x worse!
>>82962294>>>They were already being violent towards eachother!They were raiding farms and settlements and killing Whites.
>>82962294>>They were already being violent towards eachother! And violence is bad.... That's why they deserved OUR violence 100000000x worse!This but completely unironically, you retarded nigger.
>>82962292>Kill and displace millions of people>Enslave an entire race of peopleDUDE ITS NOT EVIL EVERYONE DOES IT AT SOME POINTListen to yourself, anon. Good is sometimes about righting the evils of the past, too.There will come a day you will understand this.
>"NOOOO VIOLENCE IS ONLY COOL AND OKAY WHEN WE DO IT... YOU HAVE TO LET US WIN BECAUSE... YOU JUST HAVE TO OKAY!! BECAUSE WE'RE BROWN!!!!">"Noooo you're being such a hypocrite, you can't judge others for violence while doing it yourself, exactly like we are doing!!!!! IT'S ONLY HYPOCRITICAL WHEN YOU DO IT OKAY!!"Leftoids have absolutely no moral consistency.Yes, when white people do violence it's based and right, when brownoids do it it's wrong and evil. No exceptions.
>>82962312>completely retarded brainlet leftoid take on histoy>being absolutely 100% wrong about everythingNo surprises here
>>82962291>There was not an "apocalyptic conditions" that they were living underOur arrival nearly wiped out an entire continent of people. Then we disgraced and deforested and paved over their sacred land they lived on just to build a bunch stripmalls and parking lots.
>>82962330>Our arrival nearly wiped out an entire continent of people. Then we disgraced and deforested and paved over their sacred land they lived on just to build a bunch stripmalls and parking lots.You do realize Europeans lived in America before the Indians did, right? It's rightfully ours lmao
>>82962312browns arent people so thats okay
>>82962302>killing Whites.A justified retaliation, all things considered.
>>82962338>IndiansMotherfucker thought he landed in INDIA lol no clearly this wasn't europeans' home turf
>>82961833>founded because they refused to pay back the war>trail of tears>pedophilia was legal here even though it wasn't legal in great Britain>last to end chattel slavery>segregation jim crow and Regan>every war its been involved in was for horrifically selfish reasons>no free health care and citizens support it so that people they don't like won't get itYou just have to live here and not have a double digit iq.
>>82962359>Motherfucker thought he landed in INDIA lol no clearly this wasn't europeans' home turfUnlike the others supposedly "human-like" races who knew EXACTLY where India was at the time... XD NO WAIT THEY DIDN'T EVEN INVENT BOATS OR FIRE OR THE WHEEL XDDDDDDDD LMAO NOOO THE BROWNBROS CAN'T BE THIS BEHIND!!!
>>82962338>You do realize Europeans lived in America before the Indians did, right?
>>82962330>>Our arrival nearly wiped out an entire continent of people>DUDE SMALLPOX WAS INTENTIONAL LMAO>>and paved over their sacred land they lived on just to build a bunch stripmalls and parking lots.Ah yes, the noble savage. Shut the fuck up, nigger. There weren't vast swathes of occupied settlements that were theirs. We're talking about forced relocation that everyone calls a genocide which was only necessary because they were actually going to be murdered due to them being retards and raiding and scalping settlers.
>>82962356You literally don't belong on this continent, Mexicans have more right to America than you do because they at least have some injun DNA in em. Dead whites make the world go round.
The only true lesson that history teaches is that if you encounter an inferior race, genocide them all immediately so you don't have to deal with this shit.
>>82962388>spic shit back to the favella spic nigger
>>82962392History should have taught you not to move around the lands of people you deem inferior or even in some cases bring them to those lands. You wouldn't be dealing with this mess if you'd stop ruining everything you touch and you stayed in europe where you belong.
>>82962378Look up the Clovis. Europeans were living on the eastern shores before the Bering Land Bridge crossings.
>>82962413Since Europeans are the original people (probably the only actual people, as in Humans, on Earth) and dwelled everywhere on the planet, by YOUR OWN LOGIC all of it is rightfully ours.>You wouldn't be dealing with this mess if you'd stop ruining everything you touch and you stayed in europe where you belong.Or if we just genocided you like you've proven you surely deserve.
>>82962292no it doesn't you have to think a lot more critically>>82962329gtfo with this rightwing brainrotto interrogate a hierarchy, invert it>>82962340complete lack of empathythis is at least honestyright-wing ideas are based on dehumanisation, othering, greed, selfishness, etc.I used to be on /pol/ too, then I grew up>>82962379all you have are memes; you'd be laughed out of any respected academic institution where people have to actually submit their work to peer review and care about the truththe BIG PICTURE of this entire thread btw is that for some reason on a board populated with people who are self-admittedly 'losers' and 'forgotten' or 'ignored' they STILL stupidly partake in the bootlicking of the rich, powerful, and privileged out of some sort of weird power fantasy ... as if your average corporate billionaire or even Trump-supporting baby boomer is gonna give a fuck about them and their situation in life; it's literal self-sabotagefor all the people getting a dopamine hit from saying 'nigger', know that YOU are looked upon as the NIGGERS OF THE WORLD by 'normies'they dehumanise you in exactly the same way
>>82962428>>82962438literal conspiracy pseudoscience insanitythis is why the failure of the education system in America and the resulting anti-intellectualism and resentment towards institutions is what has paved the way for this march towards Fascismand it was predicted by many of the thinkers of the 20th century, too... we should have listened
>>82962439The poor scots that were being raided and scalped were not rich and powerful.I'm calling you a nigger because you're arguing that war parties were justified and that ackshually the forced relocation of injuns before they were truly genocided was unconscionable.No one cares about retarded leftists opinions who leave out the fact that they did this to settlers and their own people.You either mention it, or you're dishonest, pretending that some vast noble civilization like your shitty Avatar movie was steamrolled over, unjustified, instead of pockets of settlements and some settlements being forcefully relocated because they couldn't seem to stop scalping settlers.Prove me wrong.
>>82962453>exploring the world and inventing everything in existence was a mistake!>but you have to totally Trust The Science that White Men invented and we would have never conceived of without them because... it proves that... white men are evilYou really don't see how badly you need to die?
>>82962481>exploring the worldmurdering the natives of the world.>inventing everythingExcept for the phoenician alphabet, indian mathematics, sumerian civilizational customs, chinese gunpowder, ethiopian cacao, etcetera etcetera>but you have to totally Trust The Science that White Men invented and we would have never conceived of without themFirst scientific method was documented in China and Mali had a more advanced take on science than Europe in the 13th century. See this is what no education outside of /pol/ does to the adolescent mind, it turns them into raving retards confident in their ignorance.
>>82961860>dumbest nigger smallpox blanket hoax believer
>>82962576>phoenician alphabetWhite people.>indian mathematicsWhite Aryan society.>sumerian civilization...again, white people.>chinese gunpowderUseless compared to European gunpowder.So you brought us cacao? You invented.. a plant?
>>82961833It was when I heard about this on the news https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_intervention_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovinaand learned that NATO was bombing people. Bombing is an evil thing to do, therefore NATO is evil.
>>82961833For some reason, throughout the decades, we just love crashing everyones economy, it just keeps happening, like the act is just crack to us
>>82961860people defend japan because a shitload of people were killed with a horrific weapon. there was no deserving atomic fire.
>>82962576>ethiopian cacao,We wuz gardners n shieet, wypipo can't survive without our plants that we made in a Syienze Lab in Wakanda
>>82962655schrodingers white man: white until it's inconvenient for me
>>82962679>there was no deserving atomic fire.But the firebombings that has been occurring and would've continued and killed many more than both bombings were deserved?Why are bleeding hearts so fucking stupid?
>>82962729...or just basic history. Yes, every civilization was founded by people with white skin and smart brains, not brown animal-like manlets, this is not hard to deduce. This is why it's so extremely important to not let our civilizations deteriorate by coddling inferior races like the others did. You simply must go
>>82962743So if you disagree, you should just blow the other person up? Maybe I should blow you up, see who's really stupid.
>>82962743They didn't deserve the fire bombing, either. their government fucked them by refusing to surrender and letting civilians get attacked, but america is still the one who killed the civilians. it's a fucked up situation where all governments were evil.
>>82962752are you high? what the fuck are you trying to say
>>82962723Does domesticating plants just happen in your opinion? Ethiopia were also the first people to name the planets and were crucial in early astronomy.
>>82962794No, I completely agree, like I said humanity would never have made it without the """invention""" of cacao plants
>>82962743The atomic bomb is evil but it was necessary, if we pushed through with the invasion of their home islands then it wouldve been apocalyptic levels of death, the Japanese were literally teaching women and children to charge at us with spears. So either a year long campaign that would absolutely crush all infrastructure and destroy the national psyche for much longer, or bomb two cities quick and clean
>>82962768>So if you disagree, you should just blow the other person up? Yes, we disagreed with the bombing of our island and other asians disagreed with Japan murdering and raping them.>>82962771>but america is still the one who killed the civiliansThere was no real differentiation at the time in nippon between civilian and war effort. They were prepared to fight for the death even though it was over. So it took two nukes and the soviets moving forward with their invasion to get them to wake the fuck up out of their suicidal idealation.
>>82962655these people were just as white as the people living in those regions today dude
>>82962827I'm sure, that's why they had to invent an entire caste system based around "the browner you are = the more retarded and lower you are" and enforce it for thousands of years. They all started out as completely European civilizations my lil buddy
>>82962812nearly every crop we have was the product of selective breeding to produce new varieties. learn more about agriculture before being a smartass.
>>82962812I can give more examples if you want. First advanced medical surguries were in India, first boats were made in Africa, first compasses were made in China, and so on. It's not that those were all the achievements these people made, it's just that I don't feel like listing literally every foundational human invention made outside of Europe in the last 20,000 years.
>>82962827Hes baiting you, stop replying
>>82962845the hindus aren't the only people in india, and that neglects the other civilizations you tried to pretend were white. why even bother posting?
>>82962851And niggers cultivated 1 out of 100000000000 other ones thus saving humanity with their ingeniousness, like I said I completely agree
>>82962864Not correcting trolls and false narratives is how you get people actually believing them
>>82962857>First advanced medical surguries were in India, first boats were made in Africa, first compasses were made in ChinaWow those places sound amazing you should go live there! Don't come back byee
>>82961833when they bombed belgrade>>82961875so that means we should kill innocents ?
>>82962873Actually many important grains like sorghum and millet were domesticated in African alongside fruits like yams, melons, and okra.
>>82962079they didnt hit any civilians and even if they did those arent innocents
>>82962826That's a terroristic way of doing things.
>>82962910That sounds extremely unrealistic. If it holds any truth, they were probably instructed by white people. Modern Africans can't even feed themselves, they can't sustain a living or anything close to it without handouts from white people, so it just sounds like a delusional power fantasy. I'm inclined not to believe it.
>>82962888Honestly I kinda wish I could live in Japan or Dubai, instead I'm stuck in rural hick nowhere with historically illiterate countrymen like yourself.
>>82961860>when I was in elementary school and figured out that maybe we didn't just share corn with the nativesI feel like everyone pedaling the "all we learned in school about natives was Thanksgiving" just proves how little they paid attention in class. We were taught extensively about native displacement and crimes against them; you just weren't listening.
>>82962924do you not know about nubia and mali
>>82962946Yea but that was in middle school, I'm talking about elementary. It was at about the same level as learning santa wasn't real.
>>82961833For me its when I realised anywhere that nato touches gets absorbed by gay and trans ideology and flooded with Muslim niggers. Intentional destruction of Christian moral values
>>82962912Oh so Israeli civvies aren't innocent but Japanese ones were?
>>82962955You were taught about the Trail of Tears in elementary. Please stop conflating your time as a 1st grader drawing turkeys with the outline of your hand to your time as a 4th and 5th grader learning about the Trail of Tears and Wounded Knee.
>>82963008you know that different school districts have different curriculums? some people really might not have been taught about that in elementary
>>82961833Creation of the federal reserve
>>82963023The Board of Education was founded in 1902 with grants from John D. Rockefeller. Its goal was explicitly not to create scientists, politicians, or artists, but rather a compliant population. So the lack of equal education access is a feature, not a bug.
>>82962954I never heard of it, but let me guess, they're renowned for their amazing agricultural development, skill, and inventiveness? We all know the famous Africans, always well-fed and never dying of starvation because they burned down everything on their continent and can't maintain a single plot of land for more than 3 hours without being supervised by white people. They should try to apply some of their agricultural know-how in modern times... but of course the White Man stole that magic from them 1000 years ago
>>82963098Nubia is the reason Sudan has more pyramids than Egypt. Also the king of Mali went on a pilgrimage to Mecca and gave away so much gold, ivory, and other precious materials that he crashed the economies of several countries along the way.
>>82963110...the Pyramids were built by the Irish, Anon. An ancient civilization of Irish people who now mostly exist in Ireland. This is why all the pharaohs were white and had red or blond hair.
>>82961833I think the whole slavery thing was pretty bad. The south set back this country decades if not longer
>>82963277>African warlords sell African people to Jewish merchants>Jewish merchants bring the slaves all across the world on Jewish-owned ships>Jewish merchants sell the slaves to other Jews>White people fight wars to end slavery forever on the entire planet because it is undignifiedWait how did we end up being the bad guys in this??
>>82962996they are on stolen land, they can leave if they dont want but they arent leaving
>>82961833Only 114k? Nowhere near enough.
>>82963515I didn't realize George Washington was Jewish. Anyway, it gets better when you learn about the history of countries like Liberia and Sierra Leone, where the British and Americans tried returning former slaves and free men to Africa and they just formed their own apartheid states where descendants of former slaves were at the top instead of the indigenous tribal population. I kinda get it, though. Those West Africans were the same ones who sold them into slavery, so it's understandable they didn't want to form republics where the (much larger) tribal population would make all the rules.
>>82963515the english, spanish, and french slave colonies had nothing to do with jews
>>82963564>english, spanish, and french>slave>nothing to do with jewsYou're either trolling or don't literally a single thing about history. Yes, they had (more than) everything to do with it.
>>82963515Maybe industrializing it wasn't a good idea, oh and adding god to the equation so they knew their place isn't a good look either
>>82963515Jews are white anon. Anyway, they forced slaves to constantly have children. They created new states specifically for slavery despite abolishing the importation of slaves from abroad. Texans brought slavery back to a country that abolished it.
>>82963590>they forced slaves to constantly have childrenI'm sorry but lmao what? This is what they are teaching you universities these days? They would have children anyway anon, it's kind of what they do, just that if they had their own way they'd use those children to attack other, smaller tribes, enslave them, trade them with others, and sell them to jews.
>>82961833Bombing them literally gave us anime. The US is BASED for causing the japs to create anime. Kill yourself, OP.
>>82963515>da joozThe south wanted to leave the union over their "right" to hold slaves. Held speeches about the superiority of the white race and the natural order of slave and master. You're a retard.
>>82963629...and who do you think funded and organized this? Come on nigganon, you are *THIS* close to getting it.
>>82963597And yes, they would force them to have children, because importing slaves from Africa was banned, so the jewish ships you obsessed so much about were now useless.
>>82963629it's bait stop replying, OP just wants to revive the thread
>There's simply no way Jews would engage in slavery, it's not as if their religion is completely centered around the fact that every other race on Earth is goy cattle and every Chosenite is promised 4000 personal slaves each>The jews would never do thatWhat the actual fuck is wrong with niggers and lefties?
>>82963648You fucking retard. >reasonable rough estimate would place Jewish financial input at well under 1% of total Confederate funding, likely in the range of 0.1% to 0.5%, based on the scale of documented individual contributions and the absence of broader institutional Jewish financing.Most of the funds from the confederacy came from money printing and taxes. The federal reserve did not exist, and jewish banking was not as widespread as it is today>>82963691Nobody has said that. You're a schizo.
>>82963698>document written by a jew magically exonerates all jews from all wrongdoingFantastic! It seems like trustworthy information! There's no way the exact opposite is the truth
>>82963709There were also more jews fighting for the union than for the confederacy, in terms of proportion, more jews supported emancipation than secession. >schizobabbleLolLmao>allAlso retarded, you're a dumbass who can't think in terms of individuals nut only in collectives. And even then, you are wrong, as the bigger proportion of the jewish collective fought for emancipation. Kill yourself.
>>82963750>jews fund and support both sides in order to take advantage of the losing side even moreAnon this is the case for nearly every war and conflict in the past 2000 years, it's not news.It's truly absurd that you leave this at our table when there is exactly ONE (1) race on the PLANET that has ended slavery. Every other race has participated in it gleefully and extremely, and never attempted to end it. Slavery is strictly a jewish, nigger, and arab thing, Europeans are the only innocents in this matter.
>>82961833For me, I think it clicked when I was ~14 and I learned about the Rosewood Town Massacre.>Former Black slaves build the town cause nearby White towns would likely kill them>Town becomes more wealthy and functional than nearby white towns that existed long before Rosewood>Nearby white towns get jealous>White woman accuses some Black guys of sexual assault (which turned out to be a lie to hide her cheating on a white dude with another white dude)>Nearby white towns use this as an excuse to burn the town to the ground and kill Black people and white people that protected themThen I learned about how this happened dozens of times. Some Black towns firebombed from the sky, some Black towns flooded and turned into lakes. Think I learned about Palestine around then too. Realized America was a big lie.
>>82963787Completely fabricated alternate history, fucking schizo nigger lay down the meth pipe lol
>>82963784>It's truly absurd that you leave this at our table when there is exactly ONE (1) race on the PLANET that has ended slavery. Every other race has participated in it gleefully and extremely, and never attempted to end it. Slavery is strictly a jewish, nigger, and arab thing, Europeans are the only innocents in this matter.no. It was a collective effort by likeminded people, not a racial value. It was justified by values derived from jewish ideas. >fund both sidesdid you miss the part where the majority was for the good side. I'm done humiliating you. kill yourself.
>>82962294Maybe don't partake in violence if you aren't good at it?
