>>82988533
No, that's pretty gross. She understood you were a considerate man and attempted to manipulate you using your kindness. The simple act of thinking you should drive her is bad enough but she had the audacity to question your character, which she assumes you care about as you are a polite upstanding man, in a third attempt to pressure you into doing what she wants.
Consider yourself lucky, you dodged a bullet.

>>82988533
maybe she thought you were into it, who knows. from a mans perspective its pretty vile.

i could do with some black phillip show

>>82988560
Thanks man. I've known her for like three years now, and knew she had a kind of very selfish side to her, but when she told me that as I was driving I kind of just went silent and it took me until I got home to process how sick it was for her to have done that. Almost like she was trying to humiliate me or some shit.

What pisses me off is that we broke up because I couldn't commit to marriage and moving in together after less than a year of dating, but now she is dating this random guy she met maybe twice a couple states away. Like, is he really going to marry her and relocate here after they meet for a couple days sometimes without even meeting her kid?

>>82988533
Yes, it's cuck shit how you keep interacting with her like this, but that is 100% a humiliating, disrespectful, and overall unacceptable thing to expect of you. It is never acceptable to expect an ex to handle your hand-off to a new man, much less actually deliver you to him. Your boundaries are too grey. Cut it out now before you lose more dignity as a man. I do not say any of this to be mean, but to get you off your ass and realize you have more worth than this stupid shit. No more gifts, rides and shit.

>>82988566
That just makes me feel worse. Feel like I've basically not understood until yesterday that people see me as a pathetic beta. I guess I need to act more selfish and jaded or something, or learn about boundaries or some shit

>>82988608
Thanks man. Yeah I told her as she was getting out the car to find a new ride home tomorrow and deleted our message history. I messaged her to say not to contact me again and blocked everything.

>>82988602
>Almost like she was trying to humiliate me or some shit.
It could be just her being a retarded whore but a lot of women really are that malicious and would do it on purpose.

>>82988617
Glaf to hear so; proud of you anon. Don't beat yourself up for it or give yourself shitty negative labels. You realized you were being taken advantage of, and didn't sit still for it. A lot of dudes will linger and wallow in that shit. You were perhaps a bit naive, but you were not one of those limp-wristed bastards, and I hope you recognize that as you move forward. Good luck.

>>82988533
I don't understand why women do this
I had a similar situation where I liked a girl, told her I liked her, we had a situationship to being only friends, and then after being friendly for a while she starts to only message me whenever she wants to tell me about her new boyfriend
Is this supposed to make me jealous? Because it only made me feel humiliation. I blocked her.

>>82988651
>Is this supposed to make me jealous?
Some women have it in their heads that their bf needs to "fight" for them.

>>82988634
Thanks man, appreciate it

>>82988651
I don't know man, it just made me question the entire relationship. Feel like such a fucking sucker realizing she probably saw me as a nice guy simp or whatever

>>82988661
It's 2025, and no means no
I'll never fight for someone who rejected me

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>>82988661
>>Some women have it in their heads that their bf needs to "fight" for them.
>don't objectify me! I am my own woman!
>treat me like a valuable object that must be won!

>>82988685
>Feel like such a fucking sucker realizing she probably saw me as a nice guy simp or whatever
I feel that to my bones, same deal with me
But her getting you to actually drive her to the airport is some sick stuff. I have no doubt she was trying to hurt you. But now you know she's worthless and you can cut her out of your life entirely.

>>82988533
Do you even know how to say the word 'no'?
Is it in your vocabulary?
You said in an earlier comment that you need to learn how to be more selfish and you clearly do, if any of this is real.
Here's a question you should ask yourself, when is the last time you were asked of a favor and wanted to say no but some mysterious pressure that came from God only knows made you say yes?
Get a grip young man
Can you lend me $75 and give me a ride to the courthouse? And make some of that shrimp fried rice? Thanks I appreciate it and I won't reciprocate any and all of this generosity. Thanks again big man

>>82988602
Women are extremely stupid, spiteful, and malicious.

My ex did something very similar to me and I've told this story so many times, I fear it makes me very easily identifiable if you've read it before, but

Yeah, I don't get it. I thought we were in love and we moved together, but she threw it all away for some random dude she met and humiliated me over it for no reason I still can't discern

Women should have NEVER been given rights

>>82988735
I'm learning. All the times I helped her (and her kid) I felt I was doing the right/good thing, but yesterday I felt like she was trying to make me upset or something, it took me a long time to understand what happened

>>82988610
well thats not my point, point is, from her perspective maybe she genuinely thought you were just friends, the same way she'd get help from a girlfriend. like this might just be either a really stupid or just a plain horrible woman

>>82988533
Yeah, what a vile bitch. Don't let yourself get used like that. At least you did the right thing and left

>>82988870
Okay, that's fair. But the whole reason we aren't together is she made it clear she was looking for a husband and someone to live with her and her child and buy them a house. It's not as if I've ever said I didn't have feelings for her, and the only reason I haven't tried kissing her or more despite there being that kind of tension between us still (and attraction on my side) is because I felt it was wrong to lead her on or give her less than she wanted. If she'd met another guy from around here I would feel a little jealous etc but also happy that she was potentially getting what she needed - but to ask me to drive her so far (with no offer of paying gas money) to spend the night with a guy she met on a brief holiday just seemed trashy and hurtful. Thanks for explaining though, I need to work on my communication skills also

>>82988935
Seems like she's trying to lock down a beta provider
Be glad you didn't end up marrying this horrible cunt
She was definitely trying to pull some female power move on you to make you feel bad
Women get vindictive when a "beta" rejects them, even though you were being entirely reasonable by not wanting that much commitment so soon

>>82988975
Thanks man. I'm not thinking I was perfect in our relationship or since (I was way more inexperienced than her), I just felt yesterday she stepped over a line and tried to humiliate me, upset me, or get me angry or something

>>82988533
holy cuck, man i feel bad for you. Single moms arent worth it. Pick your crown up and find a girl that is a good fit for you king

>>82988560
yeah on anons side on this one, she just used you. Its really evil for her to use you in this situation, because she knows you still care about her

>>82988617
that was the right way, good job my man. Dont revert this decision, it will only make it worse for you.

>>82988993
Let this be a lesson for the future
Don't be friends with former romantic prospects

>>82988694
yeah, no wonder everyone is confused, they dont know what they want themselfs

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>>82988533
Shouldn't have dealt with her again after your second line. Faggot.
Patrice may have been very Red Pilled on slits, but he was still a cuck who was raising another nig's child.
Yeah, Von is hot, but still.

>>82989026
I still liked her and would have dated her again if she said there was no pressure to get married any time soon or to buy a house on my lousy salary for all three of us. I should have made that clearer and regret it now, because it looks like she's content having a more casual relationship with this random guy she met briefly.

>>82989472
She cares more about what you provide, then you as a person. The moment you didnt give her the resources she wants, she broke up with you. Dont be blind to the obvious, it will ruin your life

>>82989496
>She cares more about what you provide, then you as a person.
But thats every woman

>>82988533
>she said I wasn't being a good friend like I promised when we broke up
When was that promise one way

>>82989505
I said "you have to be a friend too" when she said that and she didn't reply, and then I said I was really disappointed and she just said "ugh, you already *said* that". If I was her and I'd maybe misread the situation, I would at least have text to say "Hey, sorry if it was awkward for me to ask you to give me a ride today" rather than treat it as boring that I was uncomfortable/annoyed.

>>82989472
>I still liked her and would have dated her again
Yup I was like that too
In my case she told me she was gonna fly out to meet a guy she just met on an MMO, and the realization hit me: Why wouldn't she fly out to see me when we were in OUR intimate period? And WHY is she telling me this now?
The lack of respect was clear as day

>>82988602
I don't mean this in a mean way, but you did put yourself in that situation.

That said, I'm very sorry you got hurt like that. You were right to block her. Don't do/say anything dramatic, don't engage in argument, don't reach out etc. -- just let it be OVER.

Free yourself, my friend.

You will find better.
Or you will create better.

how did she feel after u dumped her?

>>82988533
Would she EVER extend such a courtesy to you? Is it a one-way friendship where youre expected to be a servant for free?

>>82989759
I didn't dump her. I just told her, after ~8 months of knowing each other and ~6 months of dating (neither of us had our own place) that if she was expecting me to propose and for us to get married the following year I couldn't promise that and that I didn't want to let her down. She then text me to say it was over. I later said she broke up with me and she corrected me to say we both agreed to part ways.

>>82989804
>I later said she broke up with me and she corrected me to say we both agreed to part ways.
Wow she's even trying to gaslight you
All you did was set a boundary on the relationship and let your intentions be clear, she didn't like that so she broke it off and demoted you to friend she can take advantage of.

>>82989804
did u even fuck her when u were friends?

>>82989499
no, thats where you are wrong. been with my wife when i was poor as fuck and we still love eachother, even though we still a below average household. We just love to be around eachother, sharing interests and so on. If you think all women only want you resources, i generally feel bad for you, there is more than that in life and i hope you find it too

>>82989804
That's pretty weird. You never really gave yourself closure, and just hanging on :(

>>82990188
I think it was both of us hanging on, but since she kept talking about wanting me as a husband and to buy a house pretty soon I couldn't provide that at least in her timeframe, which is why I didn't cross boundaries because I felt if she met another guy who clearly wanted a quick marriage and had his own place or had the money to buy someplace and live with her and help raise her child I felt she deserved that. I was hanging on in the sense that if she told me she really wanted me and at least understood how difficult it would be for me to buy a home on my shitty salary, I would have dated her, continued to treat and be a reliable figure in her child's life, etc. But instead of doing that she is now dating a holiday fling who she can only visit a couple of times a year. It was my mistake for not communicating more clearly and giving the impression I was no longer attracted to her, that's my own shitty communication skills and avoidant behavior, but I just feel that for her to not only tell me she is now dating another person, but someone who doesn't even offer what I offered (he doesn't meet her kid for example), and to ask me to be a taxi service to and from her meetings with him felt like things had gone too far.

>>82990245
You gotta stop excusing her shitty behavior
Like, realistically her main job is to provide for her child. She had that in you, as you seem to genuinely give a shit about them.
Choosing to dump you and then go on a sex holiday (with you as her personal driver) is such a bad decision on her part and is highly irresponsible and unfair to the kid she's supposed to find support for.
In the end, she's just a kind of shitty and selfish person.
You dodged a bullet, because if you HAD married her I guarantee you'd still be driving her to the airport to so she can have sex with strangers

>>82990291
Thanks man, I guess I can feel some relief in that I didn't get married.

>>82990611
This is the best outcome in a way
You get an important life lesson without having ruined your life to learn it
Pick yourself up and keep moving forward, now with the added awareness of women's mindfuckery games

>>82990625
This is the thing: for her to do that has made me far more paranoid and jaded than I would have been if she just told me she moved on, which I would have accepted and even wished her well. To think she not only moved on but saw me, someone she claimed to want to marry until recently, as so pathetic as to have no reservations about helping her (and fund her, via gas money, parking fees etc) hook up with some holiday romance makes me really doubt the entire relationship and how women see me.

>>82990654
Yeah I get it, she pretty much attacked you psychologically and that hurts like a bitch
Not all women are like that, a lot of them are though. In general women are sort of raised to be entitled shitheads today.
Trying to date a single mother will be hell because she's not focused on who you are as a person, she's concerned with only how much you can provide and give to her. Once you said you were kind of sketchy on that idea, she flips.
Women like that will try to use you. Don't let them do that. You did good cutting her off, because some guys never do and will continue to be exploited.
That's the opposite of pathetic my friend, you finally stood up for yourself
If you were truly pathetic, you'd be giving her that ride home

>>82990729
Thanks, appreciate your reply and every one else's in this thread.

>>82990836
Best of luck anon, good thread

>>82988533
eye chair ish you OP

>>82988533
You dodged a bullet and you can be thankful she exposed herself like this. Good luck to the next guy he's doing to need it and you should pity him

>>82988533
Do you think James Bond or whatever fictional cool male role model would do it? If the answer is no then don't do it.

>>82992468
That's probably a good rule to live by in relationships.

>>82992840
I mean, yeah. Thats why men need a father figure