Hey wouldn't it be cool if elites didnt have more money than you?
I don't particularly care what "elites" do
>>83152469but if the elites didn't have all the money they couldn't fund the government and the multitudes of secret military and corporate projects that would help maintain our global status against our enemies like China, see I have to live in shit conditions because Northrop Grumman needs my blood sweat and tears
communism serves the capital
>>83152469Marx was half Jew, half black and full retard. People still fall for his shit. There is no way to do socialism without authoritarianism which is just a worse monarchy/ fascism
>>83152469the elites spent a lot of money turning 4chan away from communism in the 2010's and its been a struggle to get things back on track.we will win but it requires enough young people realizing that racism is gay and the real enemy is economic parasites.
>>83152511>economic parasitesSo, niggers? Lmao.
>>83152469Switch money with power and I'll agree. Sure, power and money are basically the same thing.
>>83152492aaaaa please dont let china have more influence in my society i dont want to spend two thousand usd on owning a house in the city and a government which goes from mass killing students and one child policy in the eighties to building ninety percent of the worlds green energy the only functional space program and livable wages and lots of egalitarian policies within fourty years i think the usa imported more mexicans and child traffickers tho????? so our politicians can fake votes?????
>>83152527niggers only account for a tiny fraction of the country's economic waste. it's almost entirely billionaires. the sooner americans realize this the sooner we can fix the world.
>>83152469>he thinks the ones at the top of a new hierarchy won't have more money and resources than himOr, even better:>he thinks hierarchy can ever be eliminated from human social dynamics
>>83152558Social programs (like welfare and ebt) add 1 trillion in congressional debt every year thoughbeit. I can't be bothered to find a better picture
>>83152575even if you think hierarchy is normal it can't really be argued against that the current hierarchy has gone too far and things are unsustainable.conservatives love talking about how things were better in the 1950's but that came with vast social programs thanks to FDR that the subsequent governments stopped so they could cut taxes on the rich.
>>83152469>Hey wouldn't it be cool if elites murdered you and took any wealth you had?
>>83152600America's current GDP is 30 trillion. so that 1 trillion is 0.3% of the country's economic output. 30% of that output is currently going to the billionaire class, a group of like, 1000 people, based on >>83152558 and pic related. it really is not at all comparable, the wealthy are the biggest drain on america.
>>83152469Why is that guy doing the Masonic hidden hand
>>83152469Why is he doing the hand in pocket pose that elites in secrete societies do? Could it be that Marx was an elite and a fucking retard.
>>83152652>Could it be that Marx was an elite and a fucking retard.Marx was a lifelong NEET that leeched off his best friend and had to beg him for rent money every month. Very "elite" lol.
>>83152511What delusional retardation and historical revisionism is this? You are literally a newfag.
>>83152469no ima wasted resourcewe should pick our elites wisely and flood them with the resources to get shit done
>>83152659Thats what he told the public at least. Sure, there's tons of "best friends" that you just randomly meet who are totally willing to let you leech off them for their entire lives. Get real you fucking faggot.
>>83152660i've been here since like 2005. well before the 2013 rightoid invasion.we need to bring back the culture of OWS and Chanology. the true redpill is Communism.
>>83152680>OWSNah, you just confirmed you're a fucking newfag.
>>83152680This person is correct>>83152693This person is a retardQuestions?
>>83152693what does this have to do with OWS?
>>83152680>chanologyHow did I miss this? You're a giga forever newfag newfag. Imagine not remembering everyone laughing at the entire concept. Holy shit, you should kill yourself.
>>83152695Samefag is obvious.
>>83152700Imagine not going out to protest in your cool identity-concealing mask with your absolute bros
>>83152697I'm just posting random shit from my leftist folder like you. Oh this one always triggers you.
>>83152700People weren't laughing at Chanology at the time. It literally got news coverage. It's cringe in hindsight but at the time most on 4chan were just laughing at Scientology being thoroughly trolled. What is this revisionist garbage lmao.fwiw it was fun even if it was cringe. I met some cool anons.
>>83152707Imagine being a complete fucking faggot that takes the internet too seriously.
>>83152705>this reply within 5 seconds of the other guy is clearly from a samefagOK schizo
>>83152713>it literally got news coverageHoly fucking shit. This is your proof it was taken seriously here. You're such an obvious newfag.
>>83152715>You take the internet too seriously,he said very seriously on the internet.
>>83152718>no screen capNice. You failed the oldfag test. Why don't you go back to your discord or start another thread but be less of an obvious stupid faggot.
>>83152469It would be, but could I have an ideology that isn't a jewish psyop?
>>83152732>please jump through this hoop, I have autismFuck off dork
>>83152731>OP>we need to use 4chan as a propaganda tool to start a communist revolution >no u take the internet too seriouslyAnyway, communism is retarded and its the ideology of normalfags for normalfags.
>>83152637>1 trillion is .3 % of 30 trillionholy fuck you are beyond stupidAlso comparing GDP to fucking congressional debt????? how are you still alive
>>83152744>taking a screencap is a hoop
>>83152748All Criticisms of Communism Can Be Applied To Capitalism: The Game Show
>>83152748>Anyway, communism is retarded and its the ideology of normalfags for normalfags.do you have an actual argument for this or are you just gonna keep spamming pictures from your reddit folder like a simpleton?
>>83152758Ah yes, all the threads on 4chan discussing ways to promote capitalism. I must have missed them, can you link them to me?
>>83152766>pretending >>>/biz/ doesn't exist
>>83152762>an actual argumentThat is the argument. Communism is literally the ideology of normalfags. What is the goal of communism? Equality? For whom? Normalfags of course. When it comes down to it the aim of communism is to empower normalfags. Hence all the talk of "peoples" and "working class". The ideal communist society has no place for NEETs. I want nothing to do with it.
>>83152779Ah yes, the entire board dedicated to spreading capitalism by... well they just do ok. So why don't you link me to a thread where they are organizing capitalist propaganda campaigns rather than just trying to selfishly get rich quick on crypto or stonks.
>>83152798>just trying to selfishly get rich quickErm "riches" are capital, therefore that's pure, peak capitalism
>>83152785>The ideal communist society has no place for NEETs. I want nothing to do with it.as opposed to the ideal capitalist society where you're a slave?
>>83152798>selfishly get rich quickYou just described all of capitalism
So in this Utopian communist society, how do we ensure women don't create a unequal dating field. I mean currently women only fuck the top 20% of men. And this is with money being a factor. If all men are equal in income, how do we prevent women from exclusively becoming the fuck sleeves of only the top 10% of chads?
>>83152812>Trying to get rich quick is the same as spreading capitalist propagandaYou're lost the argument and now you're trying to change the goalpost. >>83152813I live in a capitalist society and I am not a slave, in fact i'm a NEET.
>>83152815Ok now explain how stealing all the money from the rich people to enrich yourself isn't a get rich quick scheme.
>>83152816Communists will literally never answer this question because it denies their world view that everything is material.
>>83152816>how do we ensure women don't create a unequal dating field.this is taiwanese tabloid propaganda buthttps://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3332036/state-matchmaking-and-pr-blitz-way-boost-chinas-birth-rateThe CCP has state-funded matchmaking services to eliminate male loneliness. why don't we have this? Where's my communist chinese wife?
>>83152823>this thread about a company or cryptocurrency on 4chan is not propaganda100% bluepilled
>>83152816theoretically women would be confined to their village so their options wouldn't be so far and wide, but idk honestly I'm not an expert on communism
>>83152841>this thread made a pajeet specifically confined to a single board for a single set of people is actually exactly the same as my leftist trannies constantly shilling for a communist revolution on every board on 4chanNice cope.
>>83152858>>83152816the actual "theory" explanation is that under Communism women would have no financial incentive to date and would select for other positive traits that are less correlated with financial success the way height/race/etc are. you would likely have a better chance getting a gf if women didn't subconsciously associate being 6'5 and white with being "successful" and instead valued things like loyalty, work ethic, etc.though in practice this wasn't the case in the USSR or CCP as women will still go out of their way to chase status even in a society where your future is secure regardless of background, because they are victims of their own biology.so the practical explanation is >>83152840
>>83152840China is the 80/20 rule on crack. You show up as a white guy and drown in pussy. clearly communism has failed. The answer isn't always the state. You're retarded as always. >>83152858No, actually this is the opposite of theoretical or real communism.
>>83152898>clearly communism has failed.China's middle class is in a golden age while America's is declining every year. lol.
>>83152896Ultimately its a fundemental misunderstanding of nature. Women don't chase 6ft men because they are more likely to be rich. Its purely biological. You can literally be a 30 year 6ft smelly bum living in a fucking van thats never had a job in his life and still get regular pussy because you have a good jawline. Life isn't fair and trying to force it to be is just retarded and will never actually work. Its just going to back fire as always.
>>83152496no one cares if he was part jewish or whatever except detached neonazi lumpen filth
>>83152907Ah yes, the spitting image of communism. Producing goods for capitalists to consume at half off!LMFAO, China is hell to live in if you are a NEET. But its another great example that communism is the ideology of normalfags for normalfags. Only bug people could even come close to achieving it. These are people that bully and ostracize you for being even slightly different from the rest.
>>83152908>Life isn't fair and trying to force it to be is just retarded and will never actually work. Its just going to back fire as always.nah we WILL deprogram foids and force them to be happy being married to a 5'7 incel that makes an average salary, and no amount of biological essentialism will change the fact capitalist female dating practices are unsustainable.we have to, for the future of humanity.
>>83152469>consolidates all the power into the government>this won't lead to corruption
>>83152926>Ah yes, the spitting image of communism. Producing goods for capitalists to consume at half off!yes.read the dengist dead sea scrolls to understand more.
>>83152927No. Capitalism is the only thing that would save manlets. it was working perfectly fine before the communist concepts of equality for women became mainstream. Strip women of entering the work force and ensure they are powerless. Enforce monogamy and they will have no choice but to love their manlet husband because without him they'd be dead on the street somewhere.
>>83152942>No. Capitalism is the only thing that would save manletsHow? Capitalism tells women to only date rich men. So if I'm not rich I have no chance of reproducing under Capitalism. Why would I want to live under that?
>>83152926>Ah yes, the spitting image of communism. Producing goods for capitalists to consume at half off!I'm curious where dumbasses come up with this stuff? like who told you communism is when there's no products or trading
>>83152938I don't think I will. They're not a communist country and they don't follow Marx's vision.
>>83152949I just explained how. Of course women will date rich men over poor men. Thats not the issue right now. The issue right now is women are allowed to work. Remove women from the work force. All men become more wealthy automatically as labor supply decreases by half. Next, women would starve to death on the street unless they got a husband. Since they are unable to work, even a poorfag would be rich from their perspective.
>>83152953fact of the matter is China's doing well and America isn't. even if it's not "real communism" copying whatever they're doing can only be a good thing for the average American.
>>83152968There's no putting that cat back in the bag tho. You can't "remove" women's right to work when they currently account for 55% of the workforce. Sure it would be nice if people could support a family on a single income, but Liberal Capitalists abolished that in the 1950's under the promise of making families wealthier only to ruin everything instead. You aren't ever getting that back. We need to look forward to a post-wagie society, not backwards towards a pre-women's rights society.
>>83152942>>83152949It's not a matter of capitalism/communism. We simply need to face the fact women are non-sentient civilization wreckers and should not be held of standards of freedom or equality like a man should.
>>83152969>we should be communist like China>China isn't communist>angry faceThats you. Did I ever once say that a controlled economy was a bad thing? Please tell me where I said a controlled economy was bad. Please I fucking beg you, you retarded communist faggot. Oh wait, I guess you're not even a communist you're just a chinkaboo.
>>83152990>There's no putting that cat back in the bag tho.Yes there is. Its far far far far far more likely than a communist revolution which as already discussed wouldn't even fix the issue and in fact would only make it worse.
>>83153005History doesn't move backwards. We aren't gonna recreate the Roman Empire. Things only get worse or they get better, they don't go back to how they were. Society is too imbalanced now to ever go back to the 1950's America. The wealthy control too much of the pie. They literally own something like 90% of real estate. You will NEVER own a home under Capitalism at this point, let alone have a family.
>>83152993no I think you should just get a job and stop having rape fantasies
>>83153017>history is progressiveNah, you're again showing how retarded and delusional you are.
>>83153033it is a fact. the western empire is collapsing and losing influence each year
>>83153033History isn't progressive I'm just talking basic metaphysics. Think entropy bro. Things will never go back to how they were.
>>83152816communism is not utopian and no one cares if you can't get a girlfriend. communism is about WORK
>>83153041Its not the first time, won't be the last either.
>>83152469https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklaturahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blat_(favors)Aren't the Nomenklatura and Blat evidence that the Soviet union still had the rich and poor class, the favored and unfavored class?
>>83153043They will eventually when society breaks down. Either we go back or there is no fix and we'll just have to wait it out till you can get away with raping women at night.
>>83152488Seriously seriously based first post. Maybe they will listen
>>83152469Under communism there would be new elites. Guess what? You wouldnt be one of them either
>>83153084when has that ever been the case? like give me an example of a country that "went back" after a crisis and fixed things by just...recreating the past. it makes no fucking sense.
>>83153106>thinking in terms of country This is retarded anon, think in terms of people. Rome was the greatest power of its time. It became a feminist gay faggot degenerate nightmare and fell. In the middle ages italians were back to repressing their women again.
>>83153126but the gains from Roman political philosophy weren't lost under the kingdom of Italy. christianity was just invented and elevated as a means to enforce late-roman customs, and after the empire fell those same customs were integrated into the barbarian tribes that replaced/assimilated the romans. italy didn't "revert", people just kept living as they did under rome but with new leadership and their customs and culture continued to evolve until eventually the kingdoms also fell and we got europe as it is today.
>>83152511No way is that real.
>>83153152>i don't view history as progressive>actually history is just one progressively line that will eventually lead to capitalismNah, they regressed and then went back to old standards.
>>83152469He was right.Gaben bought his 7th $500 MILLION dollar yacht.While you need to wage slave for that 50 year morgage to own a home in 2025 (baby boomers it took them 10 years or less to own the same home).FUCK ELITES. FUCK CAPITALISM.We unironically need a World War 3 where China and Russia defeats USA and Israel.
>>83154092>where China and Russia defeats USA and Israel.Was with you until this. You're as retarded as they come
>>83152528Money is power. That's why billionaires aren't desperate to become president.
>>83154092>China and Russia defeats USA and IsraelEverything bad you can say about money in the West is worse in China and Russia lmfao I hope we get a WW3 because billions must die.
>>83152469Yea but how are you going to do that? Investors and companies will just leave the country and the market if they're being taxed a lot.
>>83155017so seize their investments and company property within the country
>>83152511wtf based elites.But no, 4chan rejected Communism because Leftoids are bigger lolcows than Church Ladies and are easy to troll, plus 4chan finds the unfiltered truth which btfos the Leftoid's feels over reals
>>83152488You do, whether you realize it or not. They own a lot of what you interact with.
>>83152469Who's going to be the new elite making sure that I don't have any more money than the hobos and niggers? You will need someone to manage and redistribute all the money, and or course take the biggest cut from it, or give someone authority beyond money which is way worse for us authority-less plebs that are now both poor and powerless.
>>83155409No you see when the government centrally plans your life, stifles innovation and drive, and enriches themselves off of you that is le good.
Pns4agv>>83152469It would, but it would also undermine the basis of society.If I do something remarkable, I want to be rewarded more than anyone else, and this is just impossible in communism.The state is a bottleneck to progress in such society, as every financial decision would have to run through them, it would be simply like one single large company running the show rather than many, using the monopoly on violence to ban competition.Private ownership is a human need You will never eradicate also, and allowing people to profit from their ideas is the only way to sustain society.Now the only problem with our system is the lack of direction, capitalism has as a single social goal to accumulate and extract wealth from others, which in the long run Leeds to centralization and communism once again.It is a broken system, a vicious loop, and the only way to break it is to exit the communism capitalism duality, and create something new, something with direction, something that allows for fair distribution of wealth, and also fair accumulation at the same time, raising the bottom of society, allowing the top to also exist, and leaving the middle class as free and untouched as possible to thrive.1 million millionaires brings much more prosperity than one or two billionaire, every single one of them delivers a service that actively increases the overall wealth of the country they reside in, while the billionaire usually has little stakes in a country and usually just perfected the art of wealth extraction above providing a vital service.So tldr we need a new governance system, communism and capitalism are anachronistic, one strangles opportunity, the other creates gigantic beasts that end up strangling opportunity and siphoning wealth from the system, becoming as powerful as a government, without any responsibility to govern
>>83155623Cap wealth/resource accumulation.
>>83155828Could unironocally be a viable solution, the downside would be, who is going to do, work or finance spacefare, which is extremely expensive? Or other money sinks that need a huge amount of financing? Conglomerates? Aggregates of capped corporations? This is another problem with wealth capping, which would be unironically a decent solution.At a certain point when monetary power is capped you, as a company must seek social approval and support for bigger grants beyond the cap for greater services... This could work, Democratic governance of the system lead by companies which have the possibility of being socially scored by the population, or representatives...The bottom decide whether those at the top are doing a good job or not, and the top can seek growth as long as it serves the bottom.
>>83155017nationalize their stuff and put them into work camps lol, its not rocket science. obviously you'll have to re-structure your economy after capitalism. ending open borders mass immgiration itself would require a complete overhaul of western economies
