Is mbti a litmus test for low IQ people? Is it a psyop? It's basically the corpo-slop version of astrology at this point. >Take the free MBTI test here:https://www.meatspin.com/shock-sites/goatse/
Mbti is like outsourcing your personality, you get a preset caricature to model yourself on, and concise easily defined types to categorise and judge others with. It is perfect for autistics.
>>83173650>Mbti is like outsourcing your personality,Isn't that more like those guys who make a football team or nintendo their entire personality? No something intangibe like mbti personalities?>you get a preset caricature to model yourself on,AGAIN isn't that more like game/tv/ charachters people caricature themselves on? Or even misrepresentations of people. Good example is Hitler. People here seem to think he's elliot roger 1.0, but if you read what people (who knew him personally) say he was actually more like victorian gentleman type (aka: "how do you do sir" type) and not seething chud (thats closer to moe from the simpsons).>It is perfect for autistics.I agree there.
>>83173569Psuedoscience is a scary word but most things are pseudoscience, you might argue engineering or inventing things is a pseudoscience. Science if you really know what it is, is an extremely rigorous standard. I don't think economics really qualify since the things you are studying are constantly changing, not ever piece of knowledge in the universe has to be quantifiable with replicable studies.Many interesting scientific theories actually started as pseudoscience and vice versa.That being said, I think MBTI is mostly for fun but I think its a bit more rational than astrology because its based on proto-psychology instead of completely arbitrary things like the alignment of the moon.I agree though, I mean its just a loose way of categorizing people into 16 different boxes but one should let the category define the thing the category is defined on, the shadow doesn't define the object casting it...but I think you're taking peoples fun a bit too seriously.
...>whats your mbti type?>what 'dere' type is your favorite (tsundere, yandere, etc)>would you rather live in Evangelion or Warhammer 40K worlds?>Do you like android, apple or pc more/
>>83173703People take MBTI dead serious. They take the test, read the results and then START ACTING like what their "personality" is.It's the prefect behavioral psyop.
>>83173569The same way people fell for the DSM.
>>83173777>The same way people fell for the DSM.I was in tread where some foid(troon) was going on and on about how SZPD is different from BPD but also exactly the same. What a bunch or horseshit.
>>83173727>whats your mbti type?intp>what 'dere' type is your favorite (tsundere, yandere, etc)yandere>would you rather live in Evangelion or Warhammer 40K worlds?evangelion, at least I'd go to q-continium of endless possibility, and not hell (the warp).>Do you like android, apple or pc moreI hate apple. Mainly because every liberal I know LOVES them.
there's a kind of meta test here where the smartest people greatly respect MBTII wouldn't even say it's a midwit graph because both the very dumb and the midwits shit on ithttps://slatestarcodex.com/2014/05/27/on-types-of-typologies/
>>83173810the warp is great, bromore fun than gay tang party where you share mindspace with thirdies and redditors
>>83173835>the warp is great, broYou just want to simp for slannesh heretic.
it's useful, and it's fun. even purely self-reported 'vibes', there is value in knowing what type of person someone is.
>>83173794I pity people who were diagnosed with these things. The witch hunts of the contemporary times.
>>83173703>you might argue engineering or inventing things is a pseudoscience.
>>83173897>I pity people who were diagnosed with these things. The witch hunts of the contemporary times.I was diagnosed with Schizo-affective because I mention having strong minds-eye visuals (the apple meme), you know how some people can't control thier inner voice, I can't control my visuals. Anyways the psychiatrist gave me clozipine, which made me depressed (because I also used visuals as escapism), and so I was given an SSRI's (I forget) which caused my blood pressure to go up, so I was given lisinopril, which caused me to be tired so they gave me methylphenidate.And I remember one day thinking; "why the fuck am I taking all this shit?" There was literally nothing wrong with me. After that I don't really trust them.tl:dr psycharist basically gave me ton of percription drugs for no reason
>>83173727>INTP>kuudere>neither >apple
>>83173987>kundereLMAO, why not marry a robot then?
>>83173979I was forced to take multiple meds that made me retarded for 7 years starting when I was 11 because I would argue with my mom and fight with my brother, at least I was never diagnosed. Doctor was literally trying to sissyficate me to please my mom. She told everyone I knew about how hard it was having a crazy son "he plays video games" she used to say sobbing. Quit the meds and all the doctor said was "part of the illness" went away. Now I refuse to engage with anyone irl who express being propsych in any way.
>>83173569>It's basically the corpo-slop version of astrology at this point.Astrology is based.https://youtu.be/QqjsaTOvfAk
>>83173835blood for the blood god niggas:rot for the rot god niggas:change for the change god niggas:sluts for the slut god niggas:
>>83173703If by science you are referring to quantum and particle physics that is also pseudo science. Math is also a pseudo science. Mathematicians believe logical absurdities like complete infinities. Physicists believe if they keep colliding particles they'll eventually find a god particle. They think light is a duality, that light can be a wave yet not be a wave of anything, despite the fact that waves are not things, they are what things do. There is no unified theory, yet it would be quite simple to unify all phenomena if you simply recognize the ether as the medium, and that all phenomena are varying degrees of frequency of the exact same thing which manifests as different things. The unifying factor of pseudo science is the denial of metaphysics and logic. From that denial you get supremely convoluted nonsense like the notion of superposition, dualities, complete infinities, and waves without a medium.
>>83173703What dumbass baka is even saying mbti is a science besides OP? What "science" is anyone even attempting to do with it except dock eachother's feminine penis's like tie fighters? How autistic do you have to be to be filtered by this shit lmao
>>83174270Science is a method hypotheses with rigorous REPEATABLE experiments. That's it. Scientific disciplines like physics are just ones built upon scientific experiments. All of what you said is just Fluff, its not about metaphysics or whatever and yes experiments do show light behaves as a particle and a wave, its called...the double slit experiment lol. That's literally just how the universe behaves, its not convoluted nonsense or absurd or wrong it literally just...is.Quantum physics is the purest form of science there is, its not supposed to be intuitive to how your think particles should work (probably a classical intuition like how most people have) its supposed to describe how it actually works.And you're right, math isn't a science its something else entirely but it has nothing to do with experiments or the real world/hypothesis testing. Science really isn't as complicated or mythical as you're making it out to be.>>83173920Am I wrong? Again, its not to say that its not useful its arguably far more useful than physics but I don't see my engineering colleagues or coders codifying their discoveries into repeatable experiments...they just do stuff until works. Its not science, but its how most knowledge works, especially since most things don't behave as nicely and uniformly as subatomic particles and gravity.
>>83174333I don't know why you're mad. I like MBTI and was defending it. I just think most people don't even have a good conception of what the scientific method is and get confused in jargon like OP.
>>83174338This thinking is exactly where science has lead people astray. Science, being the field of empirical study, is descriptive, not explicative. Quantum physics is the purest form of hogwash there is, being the logical conclusion of empiricism, it tries to quantify everything. You need metaphysics and logic for explanations, to actually understand what you're observing in the natural world.>its not supposed to be intuitive to how your think particles should work (probably a classical intuition like how most people have) its supposed to describe how it actually works.This doesn't mean you can break laws of logic, it's not about what's "classically intuitive" but about immutable laws of reality. For example, the existence of motion is classically intuitive, in reality, motion does not exist. The existence of duality is classically intuitive, that there are different things, in reality, there isn't. You could observe empirical reality and repeat experiments over and over, describing them perfectly, and still never understand this.
>>83173569It's like yugioh but for cognition and personality, even if it was pseudo science why does it displease you that much
>>83173569People that call themselves introverts and extroverts are simpletons>bUt I cOmE oUt Of mY sHeL FoR tHe RiGht pEoPle! tee heeIt's all a load of bullshit made up terms trying to summarize people into black and white simple categories. There's no such thing. People with identity issues from abusive parents love childish slop like that same with astrology.
>>83173569I just find the mbti thing and other personality quiz stuff fun, i dont really think of it too deeply or apply it anywhere else other than group chat funpostingusing it to filter people or determine proper matches is pretty shitty yeah, thats like rejecting life experiences but i can see it bringing comfort to whoever just doesnt know enough about the world
>>83173727>>whats your mbti type?infp>>what 'dere' type is your favorite (tsundere, yandere, etc)kuudere>>would you rather live in Evangelion or Warhammer 40K worlds?warhammer 40k>>Do you like android, apple or pc more/pc
>>83173650right it's why this whole "autistics are immune to propaganda" is just propaganda itself because if that was true they should see right through the MBTI shit, instead they love the idea of being labeled a set of letters that generalize their whole personality down to a caricature...
>>83174008i'd love to marry one, if they had cute robot gals around>or both organic and cybernetic, thats good too
People try to categorise things in order to understand them. Personalities are no different, and naturally there are different models.I used to be into it because it helped explain my "otherness" to people, seeing as my first psychological assessment at 4 was inconclusive and my second at 31 withheld a diagnosis because he stated that it is not hindering my life, with the proof being that I have a job.So I could point to this model and say "That's why I'm me".
>>83173694>Isn't that more like those guys who make a football team or nintendo their entire personality? No something intangibe like mbti personalitiesmbti is just the same shit but you swap out the fetish idols with the communion of scripture. In both causes you are outsourcing your personality into the idea of "I am a Leo because the test said I was" >AGAIN isn't that more like game/tv/ charachters people caricature themselves onHow is it any different? in fact many mbti tests list famous and fictional people as examples of the personality type which just further expresses it's pop culture shit.
>>83175024>immune to propagandaAll that means is theyre immune to propaganda that works on normies, theyre not immune to all propaganda.
This is the worst /mbti/ thread in ages you didn't make the OP right at all
doesn't that mean any of your posts will be an improvement you insufferable fucking faggot
>>83175041>All that means is theyre immune to propaganda that works on normies,They are not even immune to that, who do you think the MBTI is aimed at? I think they just pushed that marketing for clickbait and to fuck over already retard people even more.
>>83175205I've worked for the DOD until 2020, autist are not immune to propaganda, that study robots hold up as proof of immunity basically says: >"Autists ignore emotional persuasion in advertising"So if you say "This lushous silky soap", autists don't fucking care, but autists do in fact fall for stuff like manufactured scarecty, quantipulation, and vanity metrics. So who is immune?People who do shit tons of mindfulness, big picture autodidacts, super high IQ's, people trained to spot it. Thats about it.>inb4 schizosLike autists certain things don't work on schizos, but others things do.
>>83175465larper or an ex-janniesome shit you exclusively have to be trained for
>>83175465>So who is immune?people who don't think they are at all. No really, the people that just assume they can't be fooled are the easiest to trick and the people that think they are smooth brained losers are the hardest to influence. If I want you to do something stupid as fuck or ruin your life I need you to think you are smartest person in the room. If you are lecturing about how dumb everyone is and how smart you are, it's likely you are the biggest fool and easiest to trick.
>>83175205>>83175465These are both very broad and wide views on things missing the core point of propaganda Propaganda, at it's core, isn't getting you to believe the rhetoric being said, it's getting you to assume everyone else is believing the rhetoric being said. I don't need you to sacrifice your loved ones to the altar, I just need you to think that's just want people do anymore. That will both keep you out of the way and could even be a tool I can use against you should you ever think about joining up with anyone.
>>83173569How is mbti like astrology?Astrology says your personality is determined by the time you were born due to the stars or something.Mbti is a test by psychologists that asks questions about your personality and the categorizes it based on archetypes. It's obviously not 100 accurate.
>>83176414Self reporting(which is all those mbti tests are) is very bad and is no better than just looking up when you are born.After all if everyone was so good at knowing who they are and what they do, relationships would work most of the time and people wouldn't be so unhappy. The categories to create things like loneliness and misery is a serious lack. Also I wager the comparison is how both types need that identifier of who they are. They need to have some "Oh, I'm a [___] too!" moment to connect and match with people in the most low energy way possible. In that way, both of these are the same thing: rationalizing behavior by putting yourself in a box for it.
>>83173569Because it's for women and gay men, like most magazine personality tests.
>>83177777nice 7s but I don't support necro bumping
>>83173569It is true that if you have people rate themselves on personality-describing words, and perform parallel analysis on the resulting correlation matrix, you recover 5 significant eigenvectors, which factor analysis confirms form a system of dimensionality 5. And it's consistent cross-culture, so it isn't just "english only describes personality is 5 ways". Categorizing your personality as 'ABCD-E' does make sense.The issue is that retards decouple personality and behavior, saying "I act this way because my personality is this", when in fact their perceived personality is equally a result of their learned behavior. You should act in a way that's conducive to personal growth and fulfillment, not necessarily to affirming your assigned personality.Go to the party. Be whatever person the situation demands. The letters don't matter
>>83173569Because it's cute! UwU>>83175082<3 <3They didn't even include my list of tests~! ;.;>>83177777>77777OwO
>>83178326>They didn't include my list of tests~! ;.;I know right!! What's wrong with this OP!!I'm gonna fight him for you >:o
>>83175465Fear and subtext works on schizos
HAHAHA There are 3 mbti threads on r9k now
>>83178943Anything that makes autistic zoomies seethe will always get spammed for teh lulz, its the rule of the internet
>>83179540but why does MBTI make them seethe so much?Its not as much seething as BBC or "I love the military", those are better options.
>>83179943>mbtiit's more of annoyance, like a gentle teasing.>BBCThat's hated because it's troons pushing it who unironically think they can psyop white men into wanting to be fucked in the ass. Ultimatly the troons are racist they get off on, the implied humilation of a 'greater' race becoming a sex slave to a 'lower' race (don't believe me look up how they write their fantasies).>militaryThe hatred is a combination of fear (of the gov) and envy of men doing adventerous manly stuff (how do I know this? cause they'll get pissed at unaligned mercs too).
>>83174333ur the baka u baka-san.
>>83173569Astrollogy is for normie women MBTI is for autistic men.
>>83173569>It's basically the corpo-slop version of astrology at this point.MBTI for corpo is absolute astrology memery. Socionics for personal development is an extremely powerful tool. I'm amazed at how good of a tool these morons developed while trying to use it for the one thing it doesn't help with, really.
>>83173569The big five personality traits are not pseudoscience and I know this because it was discovered using factor analysisGive lots of people a huge set of questions (like hundreds)>Analyze which questions get the same kind of responses>Group them into clusters (factors)>Repeat with thousands of people>Keep only the clusters that show up consistentlyIf MBTI uses 5 letters then there's a good chance that MBTI is measuring the same personally factors/typology as the big five.The only difference is that MBTI made cool little characters to go along with each combination of letters.
>>83181942>The big five personality traits are not pseudoscienceonly if u neuter them down to big 3
