How do you cope knowing that the god of this world is the Devil and that we're actually in Hell right now?
>>83269584I don't cope with it since this is my actual belief, this is a prison planet for our souls.
it is what it is at least I can play minecraft on my 3k pc.
>>83269584I don't cope with it, I reject the notion outright. I don't believe in falsehoods, thank you.
>>83269612So when you see how much suffering goes on out there, when you see your fellow man being skinned and tortured alive, babies and women mutilated and raped, what goes through your head about the creator of this world?
>>83269632That God knew it was required to have evil things in order for good things to exist. There is no light without darkness. If God is really the devil, explain all the good things in the world? Chocolate cake, smelling a flower, having fun, enjoying a sunset, the satiation after a good meal.Explain how good things exist.
>>83269695>If God is really the devil, explain all the good things in the world? Chocolate cake, smelling a flower, having fun, enjoying a sunset, the satiation after a good meal.Explain how good things exist.I'm not that anon, but pic-related is your explanation. We are in Hell right now.
>>83269744>I can't explain why good exists, so just pretend it doesn't!Not an answer, anon. There is no answer within your picture. It's just a made up example that isn't accurate in the slightest.And what about if we use the real world example, there's actually far more people with homes than without. The "We're in hell!" only works if you ignore reality.
>>83269791>Not an answer, anon. There is no answer within your picture.Um, yes, it is an answer. You were asking this question:>If God is really the devil, explain all the good things in the world?And what did I say, summarized and paraphrased? Essentially, I said that the reason there is good in the world is because a drop of good in the cup of evil really brings out the flavor of suffering. You can disagree with the answer but it's not in good faith for you to play dumb since there was one there for you.>And what about if we use the real world example, there's actually far more people with homes than without. The "We're in hell!" only works if you ignore reality.The exact ratio of good to evil is not as relevant as the point that the experience of evil is being exacerbated by the presence of good. When good is distributed unfairly, that can also be considered an evil in and of itself.
>>83269584Yahweh IS the devil. He lies, kills, steals, demands sacrifices, genocides entire races over petty grudges and disputes, demands exclusive worship and dominion over the whole world, and threatens all good people who oppose his evil laws with infinite torment. That's not any god I would bow to.
>>83269584>and that we're actually in Hell right now?So...where do the bad guys go after death?
>>83269912Six feet under, preserved perfectly, dressed sharply, in an ornate coffin surrounded by and tended to by hundreds or even thousands of their psychophants.
>>83269909Based. And pic-related is only a small corpus of a bunch more evidence for that.>>83269912If they're spirited individuals, they can be reincarnated back here or leave the system entirely if they've attained gnosis. The premise of soul contracts as well as the deterministic nature of the physical universe which governs one's physical body seems to indicate that we may not have full 100% free will on this plane, if at all, so "bad guys" in this life may very well be "good guys" in the next. Either way, no one can live a perfect life with an imperfect body.
>>83269859Except there isn't merely a drop of good in the cup. It's not 1 rich man and 99 poor, homeless men. The ratio of good to evil, bad to good, pleasant to unpleasant is equal. It's 50/50. That's all that matters.Just because you can look in a desert and see nothing but sand devoid of water, doesn't mean there's no water.Just like you can go into the Amazonian rainforest and find some cannibal ripping the face off a child and eating him, doesn't mean that's all that exists. If you want to frame things in a disingenuous way, fine. But acknowledge that's what you're doing. You're lying to hoist up your own world view as true. The fact of the matter is, you WANT the world to be hell. So you look for it. You refuse to look for the good, and if you happen to stumble across it, you warp it into evil. "It's only good to make the evil even more starkly contrasted so I suffer even more!"You've given your own game away, you snitched on yourself.
>>83269584considering how irredeemably evil humans are, especially in regard to how they treat animals, any bad thing that happens on this world, is largely a good thing as it pertains to justice
>>83269953>The ratio of good to evil, bad to good, pleasant to unpleasant is equal. It's 50/50. That's all that matters.Your position is untenable when there are more pain receptors than pleasure receptors in the body. Even the body's design through the process of evolution (EVIL-LOOSHIN') speaks out against your claims.>The fact of the matter is, you WANT the world to be hell. So you look for it. As seen in the ratio of pleasure-to-pain receptors, evolution itself has "looked" (adapted) for it too and evolution is a neutral party in this conversation. Are you going to accuse evolution of looking for things as well? Moreover, as further evidence of the world objectively being unbalanced towards evil, organisms have evolved a behavioral trait referred to by the phrase "smoke detector principle" which is a phenomenon where organisms favor triggering false positives in the presence of danger as opposed to favoring the trigger of false negatives. An example of this would be being biased towards assuming there's a bear in the woods when you here a branch snap because being biased towards false negatives is likely going to lead to death. The consequences of a false positive (you think there's a bear but there actually isn't) are not as bad as the consequences of a false negative (you think there's no bear but there actually is). Herein, we can see the true nature of this world laid bare by the Darwinian process. The world is more of a dangerous (evil) place than it is a safe (good) one by virtue of the fact that organisms themselves are primed to assume the worst because the worst is what's actually happening here.
>>83270079>As seen in the ratio of pleasure-to-pain receptorsNow your claim is that pain is evil? That's a child's claim.>"smoke detector principle"Now your claim is that being attuned to the potential bad things happening is also evil?>The things that keep you alive are evilI don't see this conversation being productive in any sense. You have the perspective of a child. >The world is more of a dangerous (evil) place than it is a safe (good)This is the perspective of a child. Danger is not evil and safe is not good. Roller coaster are dangerous and not safe.Being locked in a padded room with your arms tied behind your back is safe and devoid of danger.Your world view instantly falls apart. Because it has been constructed by a naive child.Dawkins is a bigger faggot that theists, who are also faggots.
>>83270168>Now your claim is that pain is evil? Really? This has to be explained to you? You can have your opinion then. As it stands now, you are far too lost.
>>83270228>The things I don't like are evil!Peak child's world view. I guess I should expect nothing less from the "everything is subjective" post-modernists.
