Are you more of an alcoholic or a stoner?Why do you think alcohol consumption is going down
>>83272769I don't understand this trend at all. Alcohol calms me down and lets me at least kinda enjoy things, weed gives me panic attacks. I'm pretty mad that that shitty stuff is the drug they've put so much effort into legalizing for so long, instead of anything good.
>>83272769Prescription drug use is up. Every zoomer smokes weed and takes prescription drugs exclusively. Also, zoomers don't party. They sit at home and scroll tick tack alone.
videogames are the new alcohol
>>83272769pharma, weed, mdma, cocaine etc
I'm millennial so maybe it's different, but I would not want to live without alcohol. Even with alcohol it is hard enough to want to live. Wine is good. People drank it thousands of years ago and we still drink it today. To drink alcohol is basically a prerequisite to being human.The only reasonable explanation for decreased consumption is that wages have not increased in the last 50 years so where before you'd drop out of high school and buy a house, new car, knock up your high school sweetheart, have a wedding, five kids, and a lake house on your minimum wage grocery store bagger salary, now it's a little harder. Average income in America is a million per year but median is closer to $90k per household, implying both a person and a bitch working and pooling resources. So real average is like $50k/yr, which is fucking nothing. Taxes in America are insanely high, and then alcohol specifically is taxed on top of taxed tax taxed taxed tax intaxed tax cometax income taxes. Drinking from the bottom shelf just a bottle a day costs you $30+/wk. $1,600/yr. That's a lot of money all things considered. Especially since America is extremely antialcohol so if you want something almost halfway decent you're basically getting assraped just for the chance to even look at it.America is truly a horrible place and every president, senator, congressman, governor, sheriff, mayor, clerk, and cop should be hanging from the nearest object that's at least 7' high.
>>83272769I can drink one beer and know that i'll be fine and it won't fuck me up. I take one hit and it might
>>83273602It might get me too high. It isn't doable. People aren't drinking because it is too expensive.
Alcohol is expensive and mostly consumed in social settings, which are becoming less commonWe might actually be speeding for a brick wall as a society, if nothing changes we might actually be South Korea tier in 20 years or less
>>83272769I've been a massive stoner for about 6 years and it's much better than alcohol by far: It's not neurotoxic, I've achieved a lot while using marijuana relating to computer programming. Alcoholics never seem to improve their life very much once they start drinking heavily. Combing thc with Vyvanse 70 mg and Monster Ultra is sooooo good!Let drinking die with the boomers/Gen X, weed is king! Try live resin with THC diamonds and you'll see why!
im drinkin tonitei dont care about stoner wars
>>83272769I'm neither but I heavily favor alcohol>>83272794This exactly. I don't get panic attacks but it definitely stresses me out
>>83272769>Are you more of an alcoholic or a stoner?I used to drink from 16 and stopped around 23, smoked weed twice in my lifeit's not enjoyable enough for me to spend money on it>Why do you think alcohol consumption is going downI think for the general population it's because zoomies and some millennials are far better informed on alcohol and its effects than previous generations, there are alternative drugs and the fact that most people drink socially at parties and bars and zoomies don't socialize outside their phones so there's that
People are twice as poor as people in the 70's with higher taxes. The median age is also 30-40 years older.
>>83272769Zoomers don't like having fun.They like posturing over others intellectually in masturbatory debates .Alcohol hinders this.Nerds are the new cool people and the new bullies.
>>83272769more of a stoner, i smoke weed every day but i only get drunk like once a month. i think the modern world is set up in about 100 different ways that limit alcohol intake. i know for me one of the things that keeps me from drinking too much or too often is the fear of drunk texting. waking up to having sent sex harassing or otherwise disgruntled work emails. maybe i accidentally used the hard R with one of my dumbass city slicker friends, or sent porno to my mom. if i dont have a cell phone none of this danger exists
>>83273572I agree with you about everything but the alcohol.
>>83272769alcohol consumption is going down because we're about to enter an economic recession
My skin is turning yellow because im drinking myself to death
>>83272769Alcohol is only fun when you're out especially if you have social anxiety since it makes you behave more like a normie. Drinking regularly or alone is some real depressed lonely shit to do. Weed on the other hand can be fun alone since it just makes you hyper concentrate and relax but also paranoid which is why its better to do it in a safe environment. I guess alcohol is going down because people go out less and need more distractions
>>83272769>>83272794>Why do you think alcohol consumption is going downBecause it's illegal for minors to buy alcohol and enforcement due to technology and more paranoid society is catching up.Look at boomer era, it's illegal to buy alcohol for minors (also to fuck 13 years old models) but highschoolers with beer hanging in backywars it woods is a scrapple scene.But today cameras are everywhere and store workers ain't gonna "wink wink" alcohol to minors. They don't drink, they don't pick habbit and they enter into adults life with no habbit of that and no taste so they don't drink. They may pick up habit latter but this happens slowly and average consumption is falling.
>>83274980>backywars it woods is a scrapple sceneRundown?
>>83274988Backyards or woods is a stapple scene.
>>83272769Because it's expensive. Everything is expensive.Can't built up the money to buy meself a PC to make AI in local.
>>83275003Bars are luxury now true that, it affects drinking culture too.But don't pretend people can't squeeze out money from six pack from mall. They always could and can. But young one they just don't have that habbit.
>>83272769I think I will try taking a break from weed and try something else
>>83272769I smoke weed every day. But I spent almost 20 years getting blackout drunk every night. My booze years are over forever. My weed years hopefully never end.As long as you don't go hog wild with the concentrates and gummies, and I mean 2g of shatter and 500mg edibles a day type of habit, you'll be fine. But even weed can be abused. And those people who get CHS fucking asked for it because they did crazy junkie amounts nonstop.Respect the herb and it'll always be your friend.Unless it just starts giving you panic attacks out of the blue. I've seen that happen to people and it's tragic. Fingers crossed it'll never be me.
>>83272802That's very bleak.
>>83272769Trump posting retarded shit as usual LMAO.
>>83272769>tried weed for the first time years ago>it did nothing other than make me thirstyWas this really worth criminalizing for decades?
>>83272769I'm neither.I've never had weed, tobacco, alcohol, or any other non-prescription drug. Never vaped or used zyn either.
>>83275689>Was this really worth criminalizing for decades?Yes cause niggers like it and whites didnt. Once whites like it it was ok.
>>83272769Absolutely more of an alcoholic. It numbs me better. I need to already be in a good mood to enjoy smoking, and I seldom am.
>>83273572>People drank it thousands of years agoPlenty of cultures didn't. You don't have to torture yourself with that poison, even if you wanna be adruggie, plenty of better stuff exists>>83275622How did you quit after 20 years of daily use? I'm surprised you didnt get liver failure. What were the withdrawals like?
>>83275704You sound exceedingly dull
weed is a better drug but it makes me completely socially retarded. way more than I usually am. if I lived as a rich recluse and never was forced to interact with anyone I'd be stoned all the time. But weed gives me a lingering inability to deal with the outside world in any practical way for the next few days. When I get stoned it completely fragments my brain into all these weird directions which takes me a week to completely recover from. At least with booze you just a normal physical hangover.
>>83275622I've known quite a few people who used to enjoy smoking recretionally, at a very controlled level like maybe a few times a month. Then they just started responding worse to it out of nowhere. Like they just started getting anxious when they smoked, even if it's just a hit or two, so they stopped entirely. Funny how that happens to some.>>83275752I sorta get you. The times in my life where I've smoked more, like several times a week, have been when I'm kinda isolated from everyone. It was chill to just get up in the morning and smooke, go to the gym, go home, cook, clean and listen to music. But I can't really combine smoking with having actual responsibilities like work and more paperwork.
>>83275749Why do low IQ people think you need to get high to have fun?
>>83275843never met an intelligent straight edge guy, only pretentious ones>>83275742what agricultural societies didn't drink? and, torture? you gotta go back
>>83274784Good. One less anime pedo. Are you gonna die a virgin?
>>83275854I'm sure it feels that way to someone who has a room temperature IQ.
>>83275726Who do you think put in all the decades of legwork to get it legalized. White stoners. Hippies. Do your fucking research. Everyone has always loved weed since the dawn of humanity.
>>83272769I like both but I definitely use weed more. I have one bottle of trader joe's vodka that's barely half-finished, I have like 5-10 shots a week. on the other hand it takes barely any weed to get me high so it's not an expensive habit but I use it pretty often; I spin up my own cannabinoid cocktails too for different effects (especially THCV and CBG).weed lasts longer so I spend more time high than drunk for sure, it's easy to be somewhat productive with a mild high so I'm not that shy about doing it, still enjoy sober days for their own sake though.
>>83275854>never met an intelligent straight edge guyI was one until recently, now I'm an intelligent stoner. it made me worse at mental math and better at pretty much everything else, I'm way less autistic now.
>>8327574220 years of *nightly* use. There's a difference. I didn't get liver damage because I wasn't one of those all day drinkers. I drank a ton and I drank fast and I was blacked out for a lot of it, but I still drank my water and ate and got a full night's sleep. As good of sleep as you can get after a fifth of hard liquor.No withdrawals either. There are two types of alkies, and one needs constant alcohol. The other can't stop drinking when he starts. I couldn't stop for 20 years, but I never took that morning drink. I toughed out my hangovers and sweated them out at work. But I know I got out just in time. Things were really getting bad the last couple of years, and surely health issues were on the horizon.I'm already losing other peers my age (forties) to alcoholic complications. But I've been sober 7 years; quit before 40. Weed will never be the same but it's SOMETHING, and we all need something. And weed is not a danger to me. Coke, junk, meth... yeah, I can't mess with that shit. My addictions are just too powerful. But weed, much as I love it, was never my real drug of choice. And that's exactly why I'll never abuse it like everything else.
>>83275843I've literally never met an intelligent straight edge person. They are always very boring, though. Out of two friends who used to be, one stopped and immediately got more fun and started living life, building a social life and exploring the world. The other one still is to my knowledge, and he is a late 30s guy who spends every single night at home playing video games. Alone.It's not that you need to be high to have fun, I just said that you sound boring, because you are.
>>83275911They're out there. Some people just never took to it. I heard an interview with comedian and Simpsons writer/producer Dana Gould, and he's never done any drug ever. He's REALLY smart. And I know a couple people in my life who don't use anything to intoxicate themselves; I don't find them to be stupid or boring. I guess you just need to meet more people or become more aware. When I was in my 20s and even 30s I had exactly your attitude and would say things like "I don't trust a man who doesn't drink" and all that shit. Once I left that lifestyle I saw that there's a whole lot on the other side that's plenty fun and exciting. And being wasted ceases to be fun at some point. Ever have to be around a group of hammered people when you're sober? It's awful. And most of my life I was one of those party animals. You'll see it differently with age and experience.
>>83275911>conflating extroversion and openness to new experiences with intelligenceLow IQ, like I said.>>83275934My dad tried to live that lifestyle well into his 40s and it was annoying as shit because he was an asshole when he was drunk.
Those guys in the straight edge punk scene are not boring. I'll tell you that much.
>>83275952What lifestyle? If he was drinking he probably wasn't straight edge.
>>83275968Partying and drinking all the time. He would go out at least a couple nights a week and get plastered, and then he'd spend most other nights drinking alone at home.
>>83275987That's pretty much as far away from straight edge as you can get. Also very far from normal, "healthy" consumption.I don't doubt that doing that well into your 40s would be rough on you and those around you. Glad he stopped/slowed down(?)
>>83276023He quit when it reached the point where he was going to end up divorced and unemployed (or worse) if he kept going.I've just never seen the appeal of any of it. In theory I could see how one or two drinks might make social situations easier, but I don't think I'd prefer them over staying home even if I did get a few drinks in me.
>>83276035Drinking is really nice. Like anything, you gotta be smart in how you use it. I don't think you need me to tell you that being an alcoholic like your dad is a bad thing.If you don't feel like it, there's no reason to. It will create social tension in some situations, though.>but I don't think I'd prefer them over staying home even if I did get a few drinks in meNow, I could be wrong, but this makes you sound very young. Like no older than your 20s. The best part about drinking is drinking at home. Preferably with your best buddies/partner or alone. Drinking out at events as an adult is just a social obligation.
Too expensive Everyone is online all the time so fewer social occasions for drinkingDrunk sex/hookups are now widely considered rape.Embarrassing things will be recorded and put online
>>83276089is this what u tell urself at night, lil bro?
>>83272769The youth don't like alcohol they prefer drugs
>>83276155Alcohol is a drug thoughever
>>83276172Yeah and it's considered a shit drug
My only vice is Gooning
The kids don't drink and it freaks me out. I met a bunch of 19 year olds at a homestay overseas and literally only one of them even got half drunk. The rest just drank water then went to bed early. A group of Australian boys not hitting the piss, when the alcohol is free, on a holiday overseas? That just isn't right.
>>83276191Worse for your health than some drugs
>>83272769weed here is not legal, a lot of people smoke but it's probably tampered and not even the real stuffalso i've had a series of pneumothoraxes from 15 to 18, so basically i can't smoke ever, it's too riskyi prefer alcohol anyways. dealing with alcoholics is also way betterpotheads have a stick up their ass and can't take a joke about their addictionus drinkers joke about being alcoholics and about alcohol being harmful and literally poison and we're all "yeah, we know lmao"if you joke about it to potheads, online and in person, they'll give you an erm acshually lecture on why weed is wonderful and harmful and if it's online and gets traction you get death threats.even alcoholic r*dditors are more chill than stoners, go on r/cripplingalcoholism it's hilarious
btw, weed is so much safer...for your body. YMMV legally
Alcohol is one of the worst drugs in existence. It just either kills extremely slowly through it killing your organs, or fast through an accident. Why it's socially acceptable is moronic. But we got Prohibition showing us people are dumb. Then the hysteria around weed when it's one of safest (when not smoked or vaped) and therapuetic as a medicine is even more dumb.
More of an alcoholic for sure. I just can't stop and the tolerance that develops isn't that bad you can just drink more. I still do dabs and my vape but alcohol is daily
>>83276319Bro, no one bothers tampering with weed. It's just a plant. If you're talking c or md, sure. There's financial incentive there. Going out of your way to mix your weed with.. what?? isn't even remotely worth it.
>>83276438Assholes will I know some assholes that would lace their bowls with opium and not tell people as a prank
>>83276443>giving people free drugs as a prankCool prank bro
>>83276443>giving out a way more potent, WAY more expensive drug for free. No.
>>83276450It's not funny that shit can mess with your head. I only do weed and alcohol if someone did that to me I'd beat their ass
>>83276415My problem is that when I smoke weed I get too fucked up and blackout faster. So I always plan not to. But then at the bars there's always someone smoking weed and trying to give it to you when you go out for cigarettes, and then I'm drunk and it's such a great idea. I'll drink less I think. And I may for a while, but it doesn't matter because I'm already gone.The blackouts were the worst thing to try and reconcile when I was deciding whether to keep going. Once I realized that I essentially just "wasn't there" at all while blacked out, operating on autopilot, I realized it was a huge waste of time and money because I didn't even get to enjoy it. Then I felt like such a fucking idiot for having continued to drink for so long in that state. If I could remember the wild times I had I would still be putting myself through the hangovers and all the other bad shit to have them. But with blacking out you only remember the punishment the next day and none of the good times. If that's not frightening enough to want to quit, maybe the wastefulness will do it.
Im more of a pooper. I take poops.
>>83276469Speaking of blackouts, never mix prescription pills with alcohol. If you don't: good. There's no reason to try because "nothing" will happen. As in, a pill of xanax with even just two drinks will make you lose recollection for the next 8-12 hours. I'm dead serious.It's scary, makes no sense, and like you said, a waste of time and money. I found out the hard way and then just stopped mixing because there's no safe level. Two drinks for me is usually nothing (around 90kg/200lbs and high alcohol tolerance), but with something like diazepam or especially xanax your mind will just check out instantly. What happened? Who knows. Did you do something stupid? Up to the gods.
>>83276459Opium is literally the safest ways to get a morphine buzz. Weed + opium is great, the worst thing I can image happening is someone just nodding out deep in the zone. You must be thinking of a different drug.
>>83272769>Are you more of an alcoholic or a stoner?Both but I consume cannabis products way more than booze. I'm 25.>Why do you think alcohol consumption is going downMillennials and Gen Z are least fun-having generations of all time and are conscious of the environmental health hazards that gave their ancestors cancer.
>>83272769I stopped drinking at 18 and smoking weed at 22. Dont wanna touch that shit.
>>83276660Dammit, I want to smoke opium so bad. It seems perfect. About half the strength of heroin, which I liked smoking for a while. I've read so many books with opium smoking, I just once want to try some. I'm so pissed because silk road shut down. I have money and really want to order some clean drugs, but I have no idea how to find a tor drug market or who to even ask. I need to find some local computer dude and ease into that subject. I'd pay someone $100 to get me set up to buy my own drugs online. My silkroad experiences were really good back in the day.
>>83276691Yeah, don't try to order like we did back in the day. A vpn/tor and 1 btc won't really do it anymore. They took this from us.
>>83276703What happened to all that? Who took it?
>>83276703What it's no longer a thing? Damn, I quit drugs for a few years but now you're saying it's gone? Damn
>>83273572Alcohol is death. It's produced from rotting berries/wheat and it harms your body and brain. You are indulging in rot and death and you deliberately fuck your physique and mind for it.Now if you excuse me, I go smoke some weed.
>>83276691>>83276703>>83276752>>83276761The fuck kind of retard crack are you fags smoking? The markets have continuously been active. The main difference is they mostly just use Monero now, acquiring which takes jumping through a few more hoops.>>>/g/107401664
>>83276763Nice. Agreed. It stinks too. The smell that comes off of you when you're drinking, the decay of your body tissue, the toxins seeping out of your pores and breath, it's so awful. I'm ashamed that I used to have that reek coming off of me so often for so much of my adult life. I could have accomplished so much more.I get a lot done on weed. It doesn't have to keep you down.
Alcohol just makes you fat. I normally drank like 4oz of vodka a night to relax, but I was getting fat. Cut that shit out and the associated snacking and I've lost 10lbs since the start of November.
>>83276792I order from the clearnet and pay by e-transfer tbqhfam
>>83276806whatever works. i really enjoy the idea of the whole Tor ecosystem, don't really mind it being not as convenient.
>>83276792l smoked a heavy doobie
>>83276792Well how do I find one? Who do I ask? Where do I get the onion addresses? I will jump through fucking hoops here!
>>83276761>>83276752Obviously online markets still exist, but it is both harder and less safe, these days. Depends on where you live, but the popo are more clued in now adays, so you're taking a greater risk. Two friends of mine got raided by the police for ordering some seeds online through the darkweb with crypto. They had made dozens of orders over the years prior, but eventually authorities will get better at tracking it.Risk of getting pulled is higher now, since the service-oriented markets of circa '08-15 have deteriorated.
>>83276806Man, what does this mean? Just point me in the right direction here.
>>83276823I'm not familiar with noob resources, but I'm sure reddit has plenty.Look for Dread. Look for PornHub but for Drugs.
>>83276763>average stoner is a schizo with a BMI of 17NAW DOOD WEED IS LIFE BRO WEED IS FROM THE EARTH ITS A FLOWER MAN
>>83276872Agreed. I quit alcohol and stick with weed
37 years old. Never drank a day in my life. I grew up with an alcoholic mother and have extremely unpleasant memories of her drinking. I have never drank and I never will.
>>83276883You should quit being a pretentious retard and stick with jerking off and eating frootloops
>>83276918There's no reason to be upset to be completely honest with you, member of family
>>83276827For SEEDS? Man I can get seeds legally in my state. Are you telling me they don't still have just the Amazon of drugs where you can scroll down pages and pages of different drugs at different prices? I liked the whole escrow thing too where they didn't get my money unless I got my drugs. They were always hidden so well. It was ingenious. I don't think they're usually after recreational small buyers like me in the U.S. to the point that they'd be trying to track me down. The dealers are the ones more at risk. Sending drugs in the mail is even easier due to all the ebay and etsy shit now. Every fourth household is running some kind of mail order business resale thing these days.
I used to smoke a bit of hash every night for 3 years or so, then stopped being able to enjoy it and stopped doing it.Alcohol is an annoying one. I do enjoy it and I do sometimes indulge in it more than I should, or when I don't need to, but my gf makes a big fucking drama out of it just because she knows other people who had/have some serious problems with it, and it's pissing me off. Ironically, the more she treats me like an alcoholic the more she pushes me towards it (if I'm getting punished for a crime, I might as well get the "benefit" of actually having done the crime), but she's not likely to admit being in the wrong.
I just want a nice golf ball of opium. I think that'd make for a good week of staying loaded without picking up too much of a habit.
>>83272769I don't drink and never tried weed, so neither. Why are people drinking less. Man don't really spend time with woman so they aren't as miserable as they were before.
>>83277057For seeds, yeah. If I were to guess, the police thought there were setting up some large-scale business or whatever. Still, they both were kinda traumatized by cops busting in their home with guns etc.>they don't still have just the Amazon of drugs where you can scroll down pagesI'm not an authority on this any longer, since I haven't ordered anything since like '14. Maybe there is. But it's not as ubiquitious as it was during the SR1/successors era. You're free to take any risk you like, I'm just over it. I know some dealers in my second home in Thailand, and while I'm the EU I just stay off. Might smoke here and there with my friends when we hang out, but that's it. Marijuana is fully legal in Thailand btw, with a few caveats. You can't buy oils for your vape (legally), and I've never seen hash there. At least it's like that now, there might be legal changes in the years to come, depending on what the Chinese want.
>>83277083No one's asking you, incel.
>>83272769I am a stoner. I smoked 7 grams between saturday and sunday, feels perfectly fine monday. I drank 7 or 8 beers last night and I feel like garbage. I like drinking because I like the fucked up feeling and lying in the grass looking at stars but I always feel like shit the next day.
>>83277172I smoke one gram in about two weeks. Between me and my wife, lol.
>>83277200Very good. Bet that first hit feels amazing. I breath this shit so I don't get good highs anymore but drinking all the time is definitely not happening.
>>83277058Just gonna continue my rant. I HATE being told what to do or not to do. So for me, choosing to drink when I "shouldn't" is a bit of a statement of autonomy. Clearly, I have problems, just not the kind my gf wants to address. Besides, I hate the whole hypocrisy of being compared to other people, but always in the most unfair way. For example, let's ignore the fact that other people drink literally every day and waste their entire lives and earnings on it, because, unlike me, an introvert, "AT LEAST they are SOCIAL drinkers".
>>83277224>Bet that first hit feels amazingIt does. Tolerance builds pretty fast, so we keep it kinda low key. Smoked a bit more once when I lived in Oregon. And then more recently my wife was the marketing manager for a US/PH weed business in Thailand, so by nature of proximity we got a lot more stuff. After that she moved on to another company, so we slowed down in tandem. Since January I've only smoked a few times. Might do it tonight because I feel inspired now lol
>>83277261Don't worry, my little friend. I won't tell you what to do :3
>>83277311The nice thing about this place is that you can tell me whatever you want and I don't have to respond in any particular way. I wish real life was more like that.
>>83277335It is pretty liberating, honestly. Anyways, pet your gf maybe she's pretty cool.
>>83277365Yeah, she is pretty cool. I'd pet her more if she pissed me off less. I fucked her last night, I guess that counts (we don't do it much these days).
>>83275771I isolate purposely and get stoned alone because it is fun to do. I prefer not to be around people if I'm not obligated to interact. Life is quiet and peaceful if these boundaries can be maintained.
>>83272769Alcoholic easily. I got sober from the second quarter of 2023 until the end of 2024 and 2025 has been 1 of the worst relapse years I've had. I might not be getting drunk every weekend but I've gone on enough multiday benders to where I've probably drank more than the number of days in the year that are weekends. I need to stop.As for why it's going down, it's simply not worth it. Ciggies, alcohol, fast food, and even porn, all negative vices, have gotten considerably worse the past few years. Ciggies taste different. Alcohol would leave me with a headache and now leaves me with shakes and night sweats. Remember when "Amateur" porn on PH meant actual amateur couples instead of studio porn or porn recorded with the local third world whore? And fast food is somehow less quality while being more expensive. >inb4 Why do you keep drinking?Because the world objectively sucks now and you can tell most people just want the system to collapse secretly or actively aware it's gonna happen sometime through the orange retard's second term.
>>83277717Also would like to add now that I think about it:Weed weed is the only good shit out there. None of this synthetic shit you get at CBD stores or "legally approved" shit. Nothing from niggers either. Gimme that old fashioned weed some farmer grew in the middle of his cornfield.
>>83277428Give her a pet, see what happens.>>83277637Agreed.
>>83272794It takes a lot of consistent drinking to get addicted, so it will go down.>I'm pretty mad that that shitty stuff is the drug they've put so much effort into legalizing for so long, instead of anything good. The junkies want to legalize drugs because they are addicted, literally, they would stab you if drug for the next high It is guaranteed, so putting that much political effort into legalizing and making easier to get their high is a piece of cake.
>>83275903You did not drink a fifth daily every night and not have withdrawals or progress to the full handle you lying faggot.
>>83272794Most people drink socially, you can figure out the rest.
