i was an idiot to think i could make miracles when my hands have so much blood on them. isolation has made me a monster
Hey you remember that?
its okay. shit happens.
>>83281872well thats the problem, i remember everythng! and when it all contradicts i get twisted up like a pretzel. it makes me look crazy..>>83281883im tiiiired of that... im a greedy idiot who wants everyone happy and lots of nice things. if people have nice things then why should there be sadness?
>>83281867Same, except I've got poo on my hands instead of blood.
>>83281971Doesn't sound greedy, sounds nice.>if people have nice things then why should there be sadness?One person can't experience bliss without another experiencing hell. Everything has a price.
>>83282006you underestimate my avarice!!>One person can't experience bliss without another experiencing hell. oh, this suggs you know? this mindset. people can have bliss together, there is no price to each and every thing. when you think everything has a price, you'll see every action as trying to accumulate tokenz to cash on in. it poisons every word and interaction between people, don't you see?there is a price for doing bad things. but nice things dont need to come at the cost of someone else's hell.
>>83282102The price is not within your control and you can't cash it in. It's not about transaction but butterfly effect.
>>83282122that is a cop-out! to leave things up to the chaos of butterfly effect is to resign personal responsibility. for the good, for the bad. my mistakes are my own, but my victories are mine too.the world is not zero-sum unless you let it be.
>>83282215I didn't say zero-sum anything. The butterfly effect is about personal responsibility.
>>83282263it is not. it is about entropy. its saying, ah, this couldn't be helped, there was a heavy cost, all because of these random outcomes from minor inputs. no!
>>83282309No such thing as random outcomes. You press the button, result happens. It doesn't shirk responsibility. It's the opposite. You're seeing it wrong. The cost could be either good or bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5MFFc0xdwg&list=RDh5MFFc0xdwg&start_radio=1&pp=ygUYZmFpdGggbm8gbW9yZSBqdXN0IGEgbWFuoAcB0gcJCSIKAYcqIYzv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBWsLt6Z6fg
>>83282327you are abstracting thingz to an outside party rather than taking direct control of things. you say, oh, good can't exist without someone else having bad -- because there is a hidden cost in the butterfly effect. you're assigning the outcome to that force. you're removing yourself from the equation.cost only exists if you manifest it with your head. bliss does not need to come from someone else's suffering! happiness is created, not stolen!
>>83282450Pretty retarded of you to put all those words in my mouth. Not wasting any more time on a conversation with someone like you.
>>83282533wtffff i am jus quoting what you said sorry anon.>you say, oh, good can't exist without someone else having bad -- because there is a hidden cost in the butterfly effect.>>One person can't experience bliss without another experiencing hell. Everything has a price. The price is not within your control and you can't cash it in. It's not about transaction but butterfly effect.i'm a bit retarded though sure! take it easy either way
>>83282584Yes that's what I said and what I meant is basically the complete opposite of what you interpreted. Somehow.
>>83282610communication can be really hard like that sometimes.. i do not wish to make you feel offended. i would like to understand you and your thinking, though! can you provide an example of how bliss for one must mean hell for another? like.. in direct terms, not philosophical, if that's okay.
>>83282686Sorry I called you retarded. That's just how the scale of the universe tips. There must be equivalent exchange.
>>83282825"your next line will be.. that's alchemy, deshou!"i think doing good for others because you received good is fine. i do not think good must have some exchange, cost, opportunity thereof or otherwise, nor the receipt of it depriving any others. i don't want to agree with that world view... it is opposed to my own. it's not an exchange.. but it is created, given, not exchanged. does that kind make sense? it seems really nuanced.
>>83282969It's not like either of our perspectives can be proven regardless. Only through Acts, huh?
>>83283029how we act, huh..how do you act in accord to your views?
>>83283062Acts, as in, of the Apostles.I often do not.
>>83283118i don't entirely follow.. hahh i feel like a brainlet sometimes. why do you not find yourself acting in accord?
>>83283148I appreciated our conversation, see you next time
>>83283169thank you and good night, take care anon!!
>>83281867people change. even satan used to be an angel. not to say you have to become evil, but you can still do good despite having done bad in your past
>>83283821i changed for the worse. being kept at arm's distance just made me break my head against the wall. i'm not evil, just hurt and biting everyone around me. its my fault. i was given a lot of chances already.
I'd hug you if I could. Bites don't hurt that bad.
>>83284061thank (((you))) for the offer, but i do not think i am allowed hugs anymore. nor do i think i would like to accept them.
>>83284113Yeah, I know how you feel. It would feel nice for someone to pry open my arms just to get into them.
>>83284226dis post hurts to read, so im gonna go to bed. gnight anon.
>>83284300Yours as well, lol, so it's your fault. :) goodnight, anon. I'd say good morning as well but you know
>>83284315i may be dense but i'm not sure why mine hurts you or what you mean by>I'd say good morning as well but you knowi don't know at all...?
>>83284332>>83284113I'm specifically referring to this which I empathize with.
>>83284346what a cursed world that others bare such an affliction too. i wonder how we all got here despite the different walks of life. >say good morning as well but you know i "don't know". but as established in this thread i am retarded. in bed already snzz snzz no more posts
>>83281867Cute braed.Wash your hands, dude.
