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YOU OUGHT TO REPRODUCE
YOU OUGHT TO BRING LIFE INTO THIS WORLD
YOUR PARENTS DID IT YOU MUST TOO!!!!!!
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>>83303721
woah, guess all those efforts to make young people as poor as possible is paying off
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>>83303721
Dr. John "The Loser" Delony forgot to teach his son about bravery, gallantry, responsibility, and self determination. Sadge, shrimply sadge.
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Didn't this generation vote for feminism?
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>>83303721
lol, watched for 1 minute and she's upset about her "genetic material" not being passed.
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>>83303721
I feel bad for my parents, that they will never get to know the joys of having a grandchild, but it is ultimately on them for not having to foresight to anticipate that their only child may have no interest in parenthood, and having more than one child tin anticipation of that. If I end up changing my mind then I will be sure not to make that mistake and have at least two.
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>>83303721
Raising a child to 18 in a developed nation costs anywhere between $100k-250k. So you either have that kid and wageslave until you're 70. Or you buy a fancy car or a decent apartment in cash. Or you invest that money and retire early.
Why the fuck would I destroy my life with a child? I barely give a damn about caring for myself. I have a job that leaves me with just 5h for myself every day. I want to retire early. I don't want to go in debt in order to buy a house and become some roastie's betabuxx husband / sperm donor. I don't want to sleep like shit at night because the kid wakes me up. I don't want the kid eating up over half of my wage every month. That alone would probably make me resentful or even violent towards my wife and child.
From my point of view, there are notadvantages in becoming a father. It's all downsides. Poverty, stress, lack of independence and perpetual wageslavery.
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>>83303939
These figures come from upper-middle class and above studies where they buy a kid private daycare, private school, expensive hobbies like piano lessons and haveing a baby sitter and all those expensive shit, the real expense is much lower, otherwise how do you think drug addict niggers can afford 5 children?
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>>83303721
I have four sons and two daughters. Having this many children was extremely difficult. They are all accustomed to a large family and I've been indoctrinating them since a young age with stuff like "when you are a dad..." to get them thinking about being a parent.

I think having less than three is a bad choice. There's a chance that the fertility rate drops to South Korea levels for the alpha generation. I'm hoping that the depopulation event leads to dirt cheap housing and an return to meritocracy where IQ is rewarded highly.

Consider the possibility that this is an extinction event and push through the difficulty. If your genes make it to the other side, you will be amongst an elite field of people, competing against a lot of very dumb people. High IQ populations are being decimated in current conditions do I expect there to be breakaway zones that will openly invite intelligent people to join as citizens.

Yes I do have autism. Yes it is a superpower
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>>83303721
>My son needs to grow up and have children he doesn't want or can not afford so he can have purpose and so I can also be a grandma
What if you don't want kids because you just don't want them?
Fuck off, faggot. What if I don't want to eat some bull testicles because I don't fucking want to eat bull testicles?
What if I don't want to make one of the biggest major life decisions one can ever make because I don't fucking want to? Faggot.
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>>83304461
Why would you want to make your kid live like a niglet?
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>>83304414
>meritocracy where IQ is rewarded highly.
Impossible. AI is replacing IQ. Eventually sexual selection will fully overtake natural selection and we will become like the birds of paradise (this is not a good thing)
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>only got one child
>Waaaaah why is mah genetic material dead
Why do we consider smart people smart again?
Even dumbest nigger on earth knows not to put all his chips on one tarded offspring
>But they will be LE POOR
So what?
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>>83304551
children want to be dead if they can't be born rich, don't you get it?
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>>83304570
Who gives a fuck
Just have 8 and 2-3 of them will not kill themselves and reproduce
It's basically filter like diseases were century ago
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>>83304414
>I'm hoping that the depopulation event leads to dirt cheap housing and an return to meritocracy where IQ is rewarded highly
the high IQ people are the ones causing the fertility crisis
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>>83304528
>Impossible. AI is replacing IQ. Eventually sexual selection will fully overtake natural selection and we will become like the birds of paradise (this is not a good thing)
Lots to unpack here. AI is augmenting human intelligence but it is a totally different process. Also, global economic collapse is entirely possible in the near term and guaranteed in the long term. Nature will decide what is fit for survival, we can't make value judgements about it.

>>83304597
>the high IQ people are the ones causing the fertility crisis
I don't agree. The population explosion was caused by the discovery of petroleum, a resource that is running dry. With a global economy and leadership, I think the plan is to depopulate the globe while pivoting to nuclear. I suspect the depopulation of the globe is both planned and required to ensure long term survival. Wasting precious resources on 8 billion redundant eaters is not sustainable. But this is all the more reason to go hard on reproduction during the process. Survival now will lead to exponential success if your genetic code, if you are fit for the environment.
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>>83303939
If having a kid costs that much why do I see so many immigrants with no money on food stamps having a family of 5. I don't think they have $500,000-1,250,000 so how do they do it?
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>>83305766
Because the government pays them to replace you
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>>83303721
i don't want kids becuase i have horrible anxiety issues that I don't want to pass down. This issues end with me
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>>83303721
I dont want my kid to be a poor subhuman

My wife will guaranteed have worse genes than me as all modern women date up. Also he will be cucked and blue pilled

not worth the risk
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>>83303721
>make everything impossibly expensive
>force everyone to pay for patel and the boondocks
>omg y u no have kids???
i'd rather have no kids than need to work two jobs to feed them and let the state raise them
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>>83303721
survival of the fittest.

>>83303939
raising a child is free. your statistic comes from how much people are willing to spend, not what kids cost. you are a fucking retard. the tax credits i get are actually more than i spend on my kids directly.
>if only i invested 5k per year into crypto instead of having children abloobloo
your life is already destroyed if you don't have family values. if 200 dollars is half of your monthly wage, you just get food stamps.
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>>83305766
Immigrants actually take care of their own kids. The costs are only related to white cuckolds who give their kids away to other people (immigrants mostly).
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>>83305875
That's not really how it works. Good genes will rise to the top over time no matter where they are distributed. Natural constantly forms Chads and Stacys through selective pressure.

Actually part of the point is that some of your genes are erased and some live. So yeah, several of your children or grandchildren won't reproduce. Others will. Each iteration moves up and down the gene pool, some thriving and some getting flushed.

Reproducing doesn't create copies of yourself, you are just randomly pollinating the world with your genes. The Selfish Gene explains this more clearly. You are just part of a genetic sorting mechanism
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>>83305934
>raising a child is a free
Why do right wingers lie for no reason?
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>>83305973
>before money was invented, humans weren't allowed to have kids! and animals still can't
go fuck yourself but unironically
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>>83305979
Money is a real thing that determines how easy your life is.
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>>83303721
Why don't you keep shaming men for existing and keep empowering every tantrum a woman throws as a gospel truth that the government must get involved in?
Worked great for the past 30 years
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>>83305784
Have you ever thought about doing that?
Going to a country where the government will pay you to replace the locals. Having 5 kids on government welfare
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>>83305991
Homo Sapiens have existed for 100,000 years
Civilization has existed for 10,000 years
Most of human history has no money involved
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>>83306009
Cool
And now money exists
And if youre poor chances are your kids will be poor
And being poor sucks
Why would you force that upon a life
Retarded
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>>83306020
So then why do I keep seeing poor immigrants having so many kids?
Why is it white people are killing themselves and poor brown people having a large family?
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>>83306027
The government pays immigrants to replace you
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>>83303721
If my parents saw me as a hassle or otherwise couldn't do much with me because of their own issues why would they want grandkids? The parents and this life make you feel guilty for existing here at all. And you get no money or good partners, you don't even get non poisoned food and water. But yeah lets add another human so they can fail at getting what they want and need while getting gaslit about it by rich cannibal faggots and other evil creatures too. If I had the option I would sterilize almost everyone and they would be better off.
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I have friends with wives and kids and they all seem miserable. Not comfy, poopy, loud, no time to play vidya, no sleep, just yuck. Not for me. Living with a woman if you didn't get conditioned from like the age of 18 is miserable too. If you lived as a bachelor in your 20s, you'll never be able to get used to it.
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>>83306027
because poor brown immigrants are incapable of thinking ahead. they never for a second reflect on the life their offspring are going to live, they just go le peener in the vagoo and shit out children with no thought in their heads. why do you think crime flourishes and homelessness and sex trafficking are so big? its because these people dont think of the consequences of their actions and abandon and neglect their children
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>>83306027
Poor brown people are paid by the rich to replace whites for now. But besides that they don't think things through or care much. That could be part iq and part having no one to teach them better. I bet the rich are doing it to eventually harvest their organs or some other evil shit. We know they don't actually care about human life and are basically weaponizing people from the third world. We know they like using them as cheaper slave labor too.
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>>83306072
Kids are a huge responsibility even if the cost of raising them is exaggerated. And there's never going to be a good foundation for it now because the women are groomed and paid by the world government to suck all kinds of dick figuratively and literally. If the women were actually good and both them and the children actually belonged to you then maybe the old time expected sacrifice would be worth it but it's not anymore. They can't offer loyalty, regular sex or a normal sized body and they probably hate you because of their feminist grooming.
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>>83306009
Populations were much lower and you could easily have territory to exist on and farm/hunt in previous ages, so you didn't need currency
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>>83306169
>they probably hate you because of their feminist grooming.
they hate you without it too
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>>83306214
Yeah but that's like saying men have muscles without a lot of roids
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>>83306181
People don't realize how quickly the global population shot up
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>>83305991
Money is a fake thing that solves coincidence of wants. While how "easy" your life is becomes a matter of circumstances and luck, the amount of money you spend on your kids from your budget is simply a choice. Only retards are childless, yes we can agree on that, but it's not a matter of spending.
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>you need to continue the cycle of suffering because... muh legacy!!!
I don't think so
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>>83306298
>suffering
>in 2025
oof.
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>>83303721
>noooooo its about ME you need to give ME grandkids and continue MY lineage because I DESERVE IT!!!
What a fag, no wonder his son doesnt want kids
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>mfw my mom is pissed because I won't get pregnant even though my little brother and his fiancee are going to have kids because "she won't be the MAIN grandma"
Hahahaha shouldn't have made my childhood such a complete fucking misery then
Shouldn't have had more babies than you could take care of
Shouldn't have neglected me and minimized my emotions
Shouldn't have treated me as a mini therapist
I have no love to give a baby I barely have enough to keep my scrote from dumping me
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>>83303721
The thing about K selection is you need to actually raise your kid and not just view them as an extension of your ego, otherwise youre just a failed r selection nigger which is what boomers are.
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>>83306302
Explain how suffering doesn't exist when people are still fatter than ever, drugged, sicker and more lonely.
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>>83306380
what does a trend of people becoming more selfish and glutenous have to do with "cycle of suffering"? is it a cycle or is it a trend? if you are getting fat, that's literally the definitional opposite of "suffering"
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>>83305991
Money is a fake that thing determines how much of your life will be spent chasing it
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>>83303721
>WAAAH! I brought my child into a shitty world with fewer prospects than I ever had. Why won't he do what I want?! WHY DO MY KIDS HAVE AUTOMANY AND AGENCY?! THIS ISN'T FAIR I'M BEING OPPRESSED!

Good. And deserved. You don't get to choose if your child has a family of their own. That's their choice, not yours. If you wanted more you should have had more. Little bitch can't handle mortality clearly. Does the little bitch cuck need organized religion too to soothe those bitch boi feelings of entropy taking hold?
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>>83306410
At least you admit that it's a choice. Some people are dumb enough to think that they can't afford kids or find a loving wife.
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>>83303881
Bullshit, it's their fault for not them setting you straight
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>>83306405
How are fatties with various health issues and huge insecurity over being uglier not suffering?
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>>83306431
Because whether you are eating for pleasure or as a countermeasure to stress, to become fat you must necessarily have a physically easy (not demanding) lifestyle and an abundance of resources. In terms of human existence, suffering is a concept on the side of scarcity, starvation, etc. while gluttony is the opposite.
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>>83306487
People who work physically are still fat and physical work isn't the only source of stress or pain. Suffering is pain and fatties still feel plenty of pain being fat. And that's only talking about being fat. Having an abundance of low quality slop that kills you faster doesn't make all suffering in the world stop.
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>>83306516
>having an easy life with everything you need doesn't make suffering stop
i don't really care. "suffering" in 2025 is retarded.
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>>83306324
>Shouldn't have treated me as a mini therapist
My mom did this to me as well, but she was also extremely loving towards me so I ended up with crippling mommy issues. It's incredible how easy it is for your parents to fuck up your life without even meaning to.
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>>83306534
You don't have all you need if even the "healthy" food and water is poisoned with micro plastics, pesticides and other chemicals. If you can't have a relationship or kids like now then you don't have all you need as a creature who exists to typically be around other creatures and eventually breed because of your sex drive. What's retarded is you thinking low quality food makes suffering irrelevant.
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Imagine looking at the average person who's a sad, stressed, fat, sick mess and can't get or keep a good relationship for a foundation to the breeding which is responsible for us existing here and unironically saying "bro look they got everything they need, look at all the slop and tech."
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>>83306575
It's retarded to claim you are "suffering" because of microplastics. Simple as. You're proving my point. You have never had a real problem in your life.
>oh no the quality of my food is not superior even though i overeat and have an easy carefree life!
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You can keep a good relationship if you want.
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>>83306633
>Dude it's retarded to mention one of these things contributing to you getting sick or having cancer
No it's retarded to pretend it doesn't matter and that's the only thing I mentioned just because you're stupid and have nothing left to say. Pain or suffering isn't what you, a retarded nobody loser, decides it is.
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>>83306648
You can't have or keep a good relationship when it relies on another person who can't reciprocate and is changed for the worse in various ways.
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As an only child, not reproducing is the ultimate revenge I can get against my parents. I hold their bloodlines in my hands.
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>>83303721
Nope never having kids. Going to retire at 40 get comfy and live the NEET life till I die. Deal with it or stay mad.
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>poisons don't matter in any way unless I say so
Wanna guess who's saying this?
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>>83306671
if its painful just stop eating so much.
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>>83306717
Eating isn't the only thing causing suffering or pain you useless stupid creature
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>>83306681
You can if you want. Building relationships is natural.
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>>83306725
your only example of "suffering" was being a fat lazy retard.
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>>83303738
yeah, didn't want to fix the wealth inequality, guess you will have to be ok with everyone becoming Mexican
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>>83306730
What you want or work on is only half the relationship. Nothing you do matters if they change their mind for any reason.
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My parents dumped out children they hardly could care for and now they are stuck coping that all four of us have either zero interest or chance at giving them grand children. After hearing the complains about how difficult being a parent is, I believed them and wish to not deal with the headache they willingly put themselves through
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>>83306741
No I mentioned relationships and poisons in the food or water that hurt everyone not just fatties but I guess you were too stupid to pay attention.
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>>83306760
get a water filter and work on your relationships. nothing you have mentioned is suffering
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>>83306748
If it didn't matter then you wouldn't respond to me. Your training yourself to be retarded, but you could just as easily work on your relationships.
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>>83306777
Filters don't remove all the poisons from everything including the food or fix people's childhoods/parents or make people reciprocate your efforts. It's not that suffering or pain isn't still a problem in the world it's just that you're too stupid to recognize it or be honest.
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>>83306806
Nothing you do matters in the relationship if they change their mind you absolute brainlet. This isn't just about you. Don't call anyone retarded in the same sentence you show you can't even tell the difference between your and you're.
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>>83306810
Nothing you have said indicates suffering. You might just be stupid.
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>>83306831
You are probably retarded if you aren't building relationships. Relationships are natural. Is something wrong with you?
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>>83306843
There's plenty of pain involved in what I described, your stupid ass just wants to pretend your own fanfic definitions or validation decides objective reality.
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>>83306861
just because you eat too much doesn't mean it has to be painful.
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>>83306851
You are definitely retarded and besides outing yourself as such you somehow miss the fact most relationships fail.
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>>83306869
This wasn't just about eating but fatties do get more pains and health problems from the extra weight retard.
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i wouldnt trust myself even with a dog at this point. i dont go outside for days
my brothers son is in a mental hospital.
the fuck would i ever raise a kid
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>>83306873
how do they fail if you think you can't even have one in the first place? is there something wrong with you?
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>>83306898
So you can't argue against most relationships failing or involving various unnecessary bullshit but you want to switch to asking why I won't personally bother with it? Why are you such a stupid bitch?
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>>83306890
being fat doesn't mean you're in pain
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Everyone in my family has some mental illness in varying degrees. My grandpa was straight up schizo, my mom was clinically depressed khs when I was 13, my dad, brother and grandpa were probably undiagnosed autiisc, my sister bipolar in jail for stabbing her husband and I have BPD. I think the world would be better if I don't have kids.
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>>83306922
Being fat usually involves more physical and emotional pain which can also translate to more physical pain since excessive stress weakens the immune system.
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People don't have kids today because they don't need them. When you're a rural poorfag, kids are free labor and a retirement plan in one package. You also produce an excessive number of them for redundancy since it's practically guaranteed that some of them will die early. But when you don't need extra hands to work the fields and you can get welfare, social security, healthcare and just invest your own money, they become unnecessary. Furthermore, giving your child a level of quality of life similar to yours starts to require a lot more time and resources put into them, for no return other than what is essentially a very expensive talking pet.
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>>83306921
if my relationship failed i would just build another one. is there something wrong with you in particular that you don't have one?
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>>83306933
having a weak immune system doesn't mean that you're in pain.
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>>83306937
Is there something wrong with you to keep getting into relationships that don't go anywhere? And you're bringing baggage from other relationships.
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>>83306943
being in pain doesn't mean that you're in pain
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>>83306943
Having a weaker immune system does cause pain because it leads to more inflammation you stupid useless bot bitch. Delete yourself.
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>>83306957
why wouldn't they go anywhere? are you just retarded?
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>>83306974
If your relationship failed it didn't go anywhere you worthless retard. Ask yourself.
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>>83303738
It's not just poverty, partnering is fucked too. Though people mostly just discuss that on impolite corners of the internet (and get called names for it)
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>>83306986
>if you die then you never lived
peak retard.
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>>83306973
inflammation =/= pain.
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>>83306937
>>83306957
>>83306974
My therapist says I have trauama from my parents divoce. I also fear of comittment and self sabotage
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>>83306991
How many partners have you had so far
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>>83307001
>>83307004
This thing has no argument
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boomers who do nothing but bicker with and avoid their wife will look at you with a straight face and tell you to get married and have kids
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>>83307010
Dang. I'm glad my parents never divorced.
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>>83306843
Most mentally retarded nigger award goes to...you

>>83306861
Why are you still replying to this low IQ specimen?
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>>83307019
Nobody was arguing. People inherently know that gluttony is bad.
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>>83306427
You cant afford kids on a normal wage and theres no such thing as a womman who wants to be a wife these days
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>>83307046
I afforded kids even when I was on minimum wage.
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>>83307041
But you're too retarded to know the consequences of gluttony or poison in the environment.
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>>83307012
First relationship at 25, that's more relevant. I don't think I've ever dated a woman that I could have been happy with. When I was younger, I was simply getting left in the cold. I would have committed when I was younger, but as you get older it doesn't really have the same attraction to it. Women don't really understand that I think.
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>>83303721
what is the point of reposting threads from another board? this shit should be bannable. Spam.
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>>83307056
I dont live in the US. Rent is 2500 euros and houses are 1+m. If youre not making almost twice the average wage in my shithole youre dirt poor and wont be able to afford kids.
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>>83307057
The consequence of living an easy life is well understood.
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>>83307082
Not by your stupid ass though. Imagine pretending fatties don't feel more pain from being fat.
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>>83305973
fun fact, the poorest people in a given country to reproduce the most
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>>83307065
Seeing what women are like especially with the internet archiving a lot of their bad behavior now really makes relationships with them unattractive.
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>>83307092
Just don't eat so much. You enjoy eating too much.
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>>83307110
Go tell them that and see how well it works you stupid bitch. Also tell us more about how you don't understand what pain means.
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>>83307127
The only reason it wouldn't work is if they only care about pleasure. The pain doesn't matter to them.
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>>83307077
Dirt poor people just have more kids. It's honestly easier to afford them when you have a lot.
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>>83307152
Their lack of motivation or prioritizing pleasure while eating doesn't change the fact they suffer for it through joint pain, sleep apnea, heart pain, diabetes etc. Stupid useless cunt.
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>>83307172
>prioritizing pleasure
exactly. their meme "suffer" doesn't even matter to them. it's not a problem at all.
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>>83307188
It only doesn't matter enough to stop them from eating, it still counts as suffering and still matters to them enough to complain or feel much worse for it in various ways.
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>>83307213
If it doesn't matter, then it simply doesn't matter to them. You don't get to decide if they "suffer", everything they still do indicates they are enjoying that pizza and relaxing.
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I wonder how many Anti-natalists would choose to never be born if given the option
Not taking their own lives, but erasing themselves from history before they were even born
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>>83307249
I'm not deciding they suffer for refusing to treat their addiction, they and objective reality say they suffer. All the health problems I listed which happens to fatties cause extra pain and it's only some of the issues caused by it. Imagine being so fucking dumb you think they don't suffer just because they enjoy the temporary high of their specific drug.
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>>83307280
Most of them don't say they suffer.
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>>83307270
I've thought about it many times because my parents and this life made me feel guilty for living here.
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>>83307292
You don't know or live around most of them and whether they say it doesn't change the pain caused by their bad life choices is still there.
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>>83307311
It changes the fact that you pretend they are suffering while they aren't. Victim mentality.
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>>83307348
There's no pretending on my end when the fatties health issues I listed are proven to cause more suffering. You're just a retard.
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>>83307364
Do you actually think they suffer at all or are you trolling.
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>>83307441
Do you actually think all that increased strain on the heart, nerves and bones doesn't cause pain or are you a pathetic attention whore troll? Retard or sad attention whore pick it.
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get a room you fuckin queers
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>>83307164
They dont
>bbbut muh africa
Everything is much cheaper and a lot of costs we have in the west dont exist there
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>>83307467
You're ignoring the increased pleasure and satisfaction they're getting from all the added sugars. Their meme pain is solved with some ibuprofen or a few drinks.
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>>83307473
Just don't spend money on those costs and you'll be fine. Kids don't eat much.
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>>83307489
No the temporarily increased pleasure and satisfaction doesn't change the health problems or pain that last longer. Ibuprofen won't fix everything wrong with their bodies you fucking brainlet.
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>>83307523
having health "problems" doesn't mean you suffer for them. it's not temporary pleasure, if it was temporary then obesity could not physically exist. it's constant and lifelong pleasure.
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>>83307537
Yes not being able to move around like normal, sleep like normal or fight cancers or sickness like normal does mean you suffer for it you fucking brainlet.
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>>83307549
>if your not a normie then your suffering
cope.
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>>83307583
>if your body is weakened from extra weight then you're* suffering
Fact
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>>83306056
And who votes for those governments?
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>>83307996
Yeah, why didnt people voot for the pro Mexican immigration party instead of the pro Indian immigration party?
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>>83306056
>>83306110
You think that your semen is infertile unless the government pays you? How fucking retarded are you?
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>>83308021
Because you didn't come up with an anti immigration party
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>>83304528
>AI is replacing IQ.
What kind of retard comes up with this shit?
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>>83308033
And it is impossible to do so
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>>83305890
>le everything is expensive excuse
Already debunked
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>>83308024
>be celibate or be forced upon a parasite/burden of debt
Basically yea
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>>83306070
>LEAVE INDIA ALONE SAAR
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>>83306072
>I have friends with wives and kids and they all seem miserable
Aging no kids surely is a guarantee to happiness this board is proof of it
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>>83306169
>>83306214
>>83306234
It is men's responsibility for women to become good partners, you only have yourself to blame.
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>>83306078
Why would abandon and neglect your children if you have more than one? What is this shitty excuse?
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>>83306181
>>83306293
If your life is easier because of your amount of money then why don't you children?
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>>83308171
Because I want to enjoy my money instead of giving it to someone else.
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>>83306298
>life is suffering
Don't project your misery onto others.
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>>83304234
>otherwise how do you think drug addict niggers can afford 5 children?
the state pays desu
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>>83306325
>being k selection means not having kids
Nigger retard
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>>83307473
It's much cheaper because their salary is in the dumpster you retard. Try living a dollar a day.
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>>83306298
>i suffered a day in my life
>life is not worth living anymore
Kill yourself
Just kill yourself
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>>83306410
>You don't get to choose if your child has a family of their own
Exactly, it's the government and Hollywood's choice.
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>>83306619
>can't get or keep a good relationship for a foundation to the breeding
They seem to reproduce pretty fine
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>>83306681
>>83306748
>>83306831
Why would they change their mind? You go to the worst case scenario, people don't change their mind out of the blue, there is a reason for it.
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>>83306893
You say that because you don't have a kid. A kid would set your life straight.
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>>83306929
Indeed, please don't reproduce. Also is your sister hot?
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>>83306934
>it's practically guaranteed that some of them will die early
Yeah if you live in a shithole
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Like half the posts ITT are fake & gay.

People really do just come on this board to waste time & lie to other people who do the same.

Pitiful state you're all in. Slaves.
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>>83308136
>It is men's responsibility for women
Not unless he's her dad or something >>83308254
Most their kids are in bad conditions
>>83308289
People change their mind for anything. In the case of relationships women can just get bored.
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>>83308333
The posters pretending not to know what suffering is or that women change their minds easily/don't like staying exclusive with one guy are among those that will deserve all the suffering they get in life. Whatever they are.
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>>83303721
Bunch of people didn't even look it up
>Lady has a 29 year old son living with her
>He was in the marines, was injured, looked for work, BUT does have income but thinks he needs to get a "real job"
>Lives with her and has a girlfriend who also lives there and works, but nobody is economically well off
>She has answered her own fucking question but in typical self-centered festering twat fashion is upset to not have grandkids or attend a wedding
>People in the comments point out that obviously she wishes to be paid by them to raise their child for them while both of them work all the time
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>>83309172
>she wishes to be paid by them to raise their child
this is why Asians and browns are going to outbreed whites, they have multigenerational houses were everyone just does their part for the survival of the house (whether they actually like doing that is up for debate)
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>>83304234
>otherwise how do you think drug addict niggers can afford 5 children?
they can't, middle class people pay for it
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>>83309172
>People in the comments point out that obviously she wishes to be paid by them to raise their child for them while both of them work all the time
That's retarded, never heard of such a thing, ever. Classic case of redditor projection.
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>>83306324
i hope he does dump you and finds himself a good woman to start a family with



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