>>83385885
Man, what is happenning lately? This general had so much life a few months ago, and now the thread is being archived left and right for having no activity...

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>>83385904
The dark times will eventually pass and the thread will thrive.

how do drugs combine with meds? I am on 150mg of sertraline and 300mg of bupropion. Are there drugs that will kill me? I know I can't drink.

>>83386059
Don't do any drugs that hit your serotonergic system. If it interacts with serotonin then stay away from it.

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Longing for a sweet girl to get high with.

>>83386122
How am I supposed to know which ones interact with serotonin

>>83385904
move to /b/

>>83386059
what >>83386122 said
so basically, DXM, Molly, and anything serotonin
research your drugs (OP didn't provide links so I will in their place)
>erowid.org
>psychonautwiki.org

>>83386233
All I want is a partner that will abuse substances with me instead of encouraging me to get sober, ffs let a man have fun in his life.

>>83385904
Gurt >>83386004 is spitting straight facts, in the new year it usually gets better. During spring at the latest.

>>83387070
+1
/drugfeel/ is a bit on and off since I assume not everyone has the privilege of being a NEET, but it picks up eventually.

>>83385904
All the drug users are getting increasingly afraid of being tracked. All the ISPs are on board with giving up specific user data for anything these days.

>>83386233
I hope you find one anon. Gonna be fucked up with mine for the next 24 hours once I get home. She's making beef and broccoli for dinner. My day can't be over quick enough

took mdma last night for a gig at about 7:30, and only actually came up at around 11ish after it was already over. :(. then proceeded to peak until like 2 or so lol.
Anybody have any idea why the come up mightve taken so fucking long this time? want to time it properly when i do it again in a few months.

>>83388308
maybe it just took it's sweet time absorbing, not sure if molly has to be metabolized, I've never taken it before, but I remember when I took a few shroom capsules and went on a 2 hour walk, it didn't come up so I concluded it must've been bunk and went home, then it hit me full force 6 hours later.

>>83386615
There is no way we could post fast enough to survive on /b/

>>83388950
we'd need a team of unemployed stim addicts to keep a thread alive on /b/

>>83389003
kek that would be interesting but I love the occasional pharmacology discussion and that would be hard in a thread full of jibbering schizos

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whats a good starter dose of morphine? i was thinking if do like 5mg to take advantage of my lack of tolerance

>>83389414
For me it was 15mg, while 20 was way too much. I never made it a habit but for the occasional use that's what I default to.

>>83389040
oh yeah, and it'd be full of porn too...
but I'd like to see a /b/ drugfeel like that atleast once.

I wanna start selling weed and adderall on my college campus for money and pussy. Any advice brobots?

>>83390298
>Any advice
don't announce it on the clearweb, but for adderall you just gotta find out when finals are, and start selling about a month before.

Do you drink alcohol? Guilty..It feels lame lol like a boomer but at least no mental illness

Forgot I had a bunch of grinder hash left over from a few months ago. Hitting some hot-knives on a snow day.

>>83391593
I don't because past highschool drinking's just depressing, it makes you feel like a dopey wageslave that's sad about working in an office.

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>>83389482
u think 10mg will do the trick

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>>83385885
>Okay 9s, now fill the 2nd hole

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Does anyone have the wiki for drugs? I forget the name it was like something nauts

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only one bump left

I have a bunch of extra drugs I want to sell, nothing fun, just stuff like Zofran that I no longer need. What do? How sell?

>>83394024
What's Zofran?
Depends on how much. If it's small petty amounts frankly you could probably set up a deal with minimum privacy like on Telegram and then just disguise the pills in an empty CD case and a regular envelope or something, especially if you're mailing within the continental United States.

>>83394147
Nausea meds. I could always just return it to the hospital for safe disposal but it'll also be nice to get a few bucks out of what's left over. I can set up the deal over Telegram but where do I even find weirdos who want basic ass prescription meds like this in the first place?

>>83394279
I mean honestly something as silly as that I'd just tell your friends and be like "you want this?" No one's getting busted for selling fucking prescription nausea meds, I guarantee you, unless your local PD sees one crime a year.

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I'm about to take 300mg on DXM but the pills expired in '23 wish me luck

>>83394525
I have no friends and don't know anyone who'd want prescription nausea meds though. Never used dark web so don't know where to find people who'd want it.

>>83393709
psychonautwiki or erowid, i use both

>>83395373
Yeah I found it and now starting to trip on dxm it's pychonauts I feel like shit I remember it feeling better last time but then again tehse pills I found are expired

>>83393118
Yeah, it's probably good.

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Started being irresponsible with my phenibut use. Currently reading a story about about a recovering addict and I kept asking myself why he tries getting clean despite that I would have agreed with it a few days ago.
I never had a problem with phenibut before but it feels like I'm on the verge of relapsing on pyro or do something worse, and that the trajectory of my life is about to derail again.

>>83395380
could've started with 150 mg instead :pp
get a puke bucket or sm so you don't have to clean it off the floor hungover.

owl right which should i try first for my "therapy" the ket or the mdma
also how do y'all crush these into something snortable (ket) or drinkable (mdma)?

also do you TEST your drugs before using them or is that a reddit thing

>>83396086
for ket you just crush up the crystals into a fine powder, any surface and any hard flat object will do.

>>83396103
It's the smart thing everybody should do but nobody does.

>>83396103
who the fuck actually does that?
I take a little and if it feels okay then I do more.

>>83396103
look up reagent tests
fentanyl test strips
send it into a lab if theres a free service in ur state/country (go on chatgpt and ask if theres drug checking in ur state)

>>83396602
brother who the FUCK would do all that seriously

>>83396616
depends where ur getting ur drugs from and what it is ur doing
eating fent laced shit is a mistake u only have to make once

I will be swallowing 15mg of Adderall and hopefully not having a single thought today. Thought-free Monday!

>>83391593
It's overhated here, I like mixing it with tings.

>>83391593
Only socially.

>>83394703
just trash them bro, no one needs them and if they do they arn't going to buy them from a sketch srouce like you

bump cuz i'm nodding real good I think
yeah

The ego boost from the snow is crazy.
I've asserted myself and even intimidated people in ways I normally wouldn't, and it works.
This shit can't be good for you long term though, I feel genuinely evil.

>>83399654
Stimfapping is fun but at the same time kind of lame. I finish eventually because I don't want to waste my time (and coke) gooning for hours. Maybe it would be different with a longer lasting stim, though.

>>83385885
If this thread dies for good I want you all to know I love y'all and it was nice tweaking with you

>>83394685
Should still send ya.

Smoking hash oil hot-knives over here. Last of my stash....

anyone try kratom? or that "feel free" shot?

i want to experiment but I know it's really addictive . what does it feel like

>>83385885
Can I snort 5 mg oxycodone tablets if I've never taken opioids before? If so, how many mg would you suggest for a new user?

>>83401356
Kratom has some opioid alkaloids in it. The main one felt when consuming green leaf powder (clay-tasting, hydrophobic stuff) is very weak. The extracts are using a more more potent one which, while it does exist in the leaf, is very rare.
>feel
Afaik, any generic opioid answer would do (check out the Erowid "experience vault" to read those if you're curious). Physically warm and relaxing, like rolling over in bed combined with getting into a hot tub. Psychologically feels carefree and alleviating, like relieving a large worry that you've been thinking about all day.

>>83401382
>snort pill
Whatever binding material is in them will make your nose feel shitty btw. Highly recommend just swallowing pills if you can't wash out of the binders.
>mg
Looking at some erowid reports, perhaps 10-20mg? Some of them go higher but starting low is always safer (especially if you're trying something new for the first time). Also fwiw the psychonautwiki (however trustworthy is can be) puts 10-20mg as the moderate range.
>https://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Oxycodone.shtml
>https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Oxycodone

>>83392738
The only time you should do something is when it's illegal..that's ironic lol

Made weed chocolates.
Normally edibles take ages to hit, but just licking clean all the equipment a half hour ago is already starting to hit.
Maybe it's because I used freshly ground AvB and included a bit of MCT oil which is said to speed absorption a bit.

That said I fucked up the temper of the chocolate, which was mildly disappointing. I am really out of practice when it comes to chocolate making. Oh well, they might not have a good gloss and crisp snap but they will still be very tasty and get me very very high.

I have used kratom medicinally as a pain reliever occasionally and like all herbs I have used, I have researched a great deal. So I will tell you both what I think and what know.

Kratom the plant is fine in moderation or occasional use.
It also is relatively safe. It is also frankly unpleasent to attempt to abuse for most people. The plant it's self taste bad and you have to consume very large amount of it over a long time to cause major negative effects or physical addiction.

The major trouble that most people get into is with concentrates and devrivitives, like the Feel Free shot, and 7-OH tablets.
They are MUCH more addictive, easier to abuse, and more likely to cause negative complications in your life.

Someone redpill me on vyvanse

Got a full oz of some of the most delishous weed I have ever tasted.
Stuff was called Iced Lemonade. The crazy thing is it actually does sort of taste like Lemonade and even includes a tart and tangy lingering aftertaste. And it's decently strong too.

It's my new favorite strain. Such a great win.

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A few hours ago I took an almost full bottle of Gabapentin capsules and some sublingual Buprenorphine. Both expired over a year ago and were leftover from my dead cat so a smaller dose but I still feel weird. I feel dizzy and kind of nauseous but calm. I wonder if this is how she felt in her last days.

i think im going to try feel free. i've never done opioids before. this might be the worst decision of my life bc im so depressed and bored right now but I just want to know how it feels like. Just one time. But that's what everyone says before they enter an addiction lol

i hope i dont fuck my life up over this but im so curious

>>83402859
I wouldn't recomend it.
If your curious try kratom capsules.

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How many miles are you walking for a Quaalude?

>>83403076
IT WAS LIKE YOU WERE ON THE MOON

>>83402859
You'd just be adding another problem to your life. I'm having those feelings as well but it's better to sit with the boredom and depression even if you can't do anything else.

so i just read that mdma depletes all your serotonin and it takes months to go back to baseline.
so the smart thing to do would be to do my LSD trip before the mdma and not the other way around, since LSD blocks the existing serotonin in your system from being consumed or something, but if there isn't any serotonin there then it's pointless.
also it sounds like mdma will put me into a depressed mood for months if the serotonin depletion bit is true

>>83402437
Pure jealous of ADHD fellas getting that stuff

I wonder if cannibals view heavy stoners as human edibles.

>>83403687
>sounds like mdma will put me into a depressed mood for months
The actual comedown is anywhere between 0 to 2 days, max. Depends on how much you've done and how well you've maintained your body's water and minerals. But I also know people who feel like that day or two fucks up their entire week - it's a personality thing.
>the smart thing to do would be to do my LSD trip before the mdma and not the other way around
Yes, if only because tripping acid while on a comedown is a recipe for a bad time. If you're gonna do them both on the same day, drop the E only after you've gone past the peak of your trip.
>LSD blocks the existing serotonin in your system from being consumed or something
Never heard about that.

>>83404275
I don't think the trace left in the fat and meat is enough to be psychoactive.

I think that drug use is converting me to hedonism as a life outlook.
Everything else feels fake and gay compared to wanting to enjoy life to the fullest while avoiding harm.

super fucking high rn.

Im totally rock bottom in life, attempting to switch to weed from alcohol. I feel too embarrassed to go back to my old life.

Taking drugs and listening to music makes me feel something and allows me to forget.

>>83404860
my outlook too, i've been a victim my entire life and it left permanent damage (incapable of trusting other people, will self-sabotage to confirm worldview) so i came to terms with the fact that it's either hedonism or nihilism for me
why does 4chan have number captchas now?

>>83404860
>while avoiding harm.
As long as you still care about this then it's all good.

>>83404379
>Never heard about that.
LSD permanently binds to the receptors by physically locking in place causing continuous signaling. Eventually the cell detects that something has gone wrong and retracts the affected serotonin receptor. This is why LSD tolerance builds up so quick, completely disappears after 3 days and has cross-tolerance with other serotonergic drugs like DMT, mescaline and psilocybin. So I guess this is why there is an afterglow effect, rather than depletion. Receptors don't get downregulated after short-term use, they retract and come back. All the meanwhile I assume your body continues to produce serotonin at the same levels. Maybe even higher, as less is reaching the receptors.

weed's getting boring i wanna try dxm but all i have is dph lol
anybody know if 300mg dxm would kill me with 30mg duloxetine? i've heard it can do serotonin syndrome

>>83406212
If you've been on a moderate-to-high dose for a long time, yeah, it could be dangerous. Now, I don't think 300mg is really THAT much, but I wouldn't risk it.

>>83406212
>dxm, a strong serotonergic
>duloxetine, a serotonin reuptake inhibitor
I'd be wary.

i hate being high;!! i just want to be a kid again and never have the urge to do drugs. i want to be creative again without substances

>>83387189
fuck eu chat control bs surveillance state

I feel so depressed bros, what should I take

>>83406694
Besides a good look at your life to see if your depression is caused by external issues or is just your head playing tricks.

But for real I wouldn't recommend self treating depression with street drugs.

>>83406694
meth, pcp, or cocaine

>>83406694
A walk, a nap, and (at most) non-lyrical music.
Stims if low on energy, sedatives if overwhelmed, and dissos if in need of reflection.

>>83406694
lyrica to clean your depression room (that's what I did since it got me out of bed)

i love dph

>>83406962
DPH doesn't love you.
You will find that out soon enough.

>>83406962
I ain't touching it again until I know absolutely for sure my grandma doesn't have dementia.
I don't believe a lot of DPH hype but it's not worth the risk if I'm already in the risk group.

Damn.
Should have gone to the eye doctor today to get replacement glasses for my broken ones.
Wanted to go when they first opened but was unexpectedly still high due to eatables and thus didn't want to go out. Figured a short nap would fix it.
Instead slept the rest of the day away and lost my chance.

Now I will have to go on a work day and miss out on sleep.
Working night shift makes doing stuff during the day so hard. I feel so fucking tired during normal business hours.
Trying to properly time my "recreational" activities make shit even harder.

Whatever, I still got my sports googles as backup. And if push comes to shove I can search for my old prescription strength and order a pair online.

feelfree anon back i just bought it and I sipped it time to see what the HYPE is all about and if I get addicted or not

ok immediately my mouth feels a bit weird. i know that's the kava i've had it before. I feel a little dissociated and calm

taking adderall and convincing myself its a "medication"

A chunk of my tooth just fell out. I have no dental insurance, so I can't get it checked out. I guess I just brush it with nanohydroxypatite and hope it doesn't get worse.

>>83407959
You might be able to get a emergency check of the tooth for reasonable cost.

Hard to say since shit can vary so much from place to place.

>>83407921
this is me interpreting every single stomach pain as a need to take tramadol kek.

>>83408035
realll
anytime im unproductive im like "actually i have a mental issue and need drugs to remedy this"

i understand why people get addicted to kratom this is awesome . unfortunately this means I can never take this again.

>>83408273
now imagine people that get addicted to morphine

>>83408273
Feel Free isn't really a good representation of what actual kratom is like.
Feel Free uses a concentrate. The leaf material is quite mild.

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I really think that night I went overboard with the ODSMT a few months ago permanently skyrocketed my tolerance for all other babbymode opioids too.
30mg of hydrocodone feels like almost nothing at the peak now and the same dose used to give me great euphoria for 2-3 hours.
I'm so sad. I just wanted to be happy but I am simply too much of a goober. Weed sucks. Alcohol really fucking sucks. I am destined for the straight edge gamer life...

Real talk how often can I take mdma crystals or pills?

>>83393709
Could have sworn it was common practice to include a list of such links in the OP of these threads.

I wonder when that stopped?

>>83408030
My dentist before I lost my insurance said they have some kind of discount pay. No idea why they're not taking my calls.

And no, this isn't from meth, it's from drinking.

I wish I had some money for cocaine

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>>83385885
>be me
>16
>get into drugs
>smoke weed
>love it
>take psychedelics
>love them
>develop interest and passion for drugs
>read about them
>listen to Terence Mckenna lectures constantly
>fast forward to 18
>start to get intense existential dread and anxiety
>reality begins to feel slightly off even when sober
>realise I can't do drugs anymore

fuck this nigger world

>>83410113
do hard drugs like a man

>>83409812
I know for people who have to pay out of pocket they tend to try to do what they can within your budget.
Since dental isn't as common as general health insurance they have more options to bring the cost down or work out a payment plan.

At the very least getting them to look at it and tell you what you might be in for shouldn't cost too much.
It's full on dental surgery that tends to cost a lot.

>>83410014
Maybe it's because I have ADHD but cocaine was the most overrated underwelming thing in the world.
Utterly decimated my vibe while out. Just felt annoyed and on edge about everything.

>>83403689
Its pretty fucking great. Adderall was too much for me but this stuff is a lot more manageable

>>83409243
from what i read, no more than once a month
redditors claim 3 months to be safest
and if you do it too often you'll fry your brain
i will be cautious with it (haven't done it before but plan on doing it soon)

Have any of you ever actually recovered from autonomic nerve damage or should I just kill myself now?

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>>83410113
You should view this time off from drugs as an opportunity to get familiar with basline, sober life. Go experience things that are extreme (both positive and negative) without drugs so that in 5-20 years when you are able to use them again, you can admire the fine details in how they modulate the experience. It is important to not get blinded by drug use, my friend. That'd be like someone mad about not being able to play modded minecraft despite having never played vanilla before. Silly!

Also your neuroticism (dread and anxiety) at that age will fade with time, so just practice patience.

>>83412388
I've heard of cases of improvement, but I think it depends on how it occurred (and even then it took a long time). What'd'ya do anon?

>>83412585
>What'd'ya do anon?
High doses of edibles constantly day in and day out until I was getting minor seizures (that my retarded ass viewed as pleasurable, for some reason).
That and DPH and DXM abuse for about 3 months straight.
Either that, or I have a sneaking suspicion that it's a cause of autism and living this long. Most autists don't make it past 36, and autists are known for having hyperactive nervous systems.
What do bodily functions tend to do when they're overactive for prolonged periods of time? Damage themselves until they're not overactive.

Either way, it looks like the only option is to kill myself, because my teeth are crumbling because I can't keep saliva in my mouth, I dislocated my left shoulder a year ago from overextension, I can't feel my heart racing even when it's at 120BPM, and sometimes I even well... have to go to the bathroom a lot, to put it mildly.

>>83412608
>thc, cbd, dph, & dxm
When it comes to the nerves, DXM is the closest to having a direct effect (as an NMDA antagonist), so I would want to look into that. If you see a doc about any of this, specifically mention that one (and the seizures).
>autism, hyper active nervous systems
I can imagine a connection there. I think if you could manage external things (such as decreasing environmental stress factors and general life comfort) it could be managable. I've noticed in my own life that if I am constantly exposed to constant disruption and overstimulation that I am unable to rest properly (which then fucks with my body's recovery from injuries).
>only option is to kill myself
Understandable outlook, but it is not truly over for you yet.
>can't keep saliva in my mouth
That's a specific issue which I think has solutions in the medical field (assuming it doesn't have a dietary cause). I'd see a doc about it. Other than that, there are dental options for replacing teeth, afaik.

The other issues come with general aging, I believe. Seeing a doc, if possible, would be nice. Best of luck anon, o7.

There's nothing more evil than psychedelics. They make people who deserve to suffer happy and people who deserve to be happy suffer. Their existence makes me believe in god - not a benevolent one, but one who uses this world as a torture chamber. Something this incredibly cruel couldn't have been a product of coincidence - some sick omnipotent sadist planted these mushrooms and cacti in the earth to reward people that do his bidding and punish people who rebel against it. These drugs tell you "This is the way you're supposed to live. You have no means of doing that? You want to create your own happiness? Fuck you, enjoy your stay in the nightmare realm". Pure evil

>>83412895
>They make people who deserve to suffer happy and people who deserve to be happy suffer
what makes you say that?

alcohol just makes me want to puke the moment i drink it
and every other drug except weed fucks you up hard if you take it daily
i guess i have no choice but to hop back on it

Do antidepressants actually work?

>>83412824
I thought DPH fucked up the nerves the most.
Either way I don't even want to quit DXM forever, but I am an asshole that tried to fight tolerance instead of just accepting that the most often DXM can be done is once a month.
The other thing I can think of is nervous system dysregulation which could be treated, as opposed to damage, but they both have the same symptoms.

>>83413249
Also DXM is a strange beast. Even if not quitting forever means a period of sobriety from it and then starting to take it in therapeutic doses, since it's got good indications for depression (and in lower doses even reverses nerve damage).

>>83413029
Alcohol indeed tastes revolting. I'm surprised/impressed by the alcoholics who manage to use it for so long instead of replacing it with something else.
>>83413082
For some, genuinely yes, but not everyone benefits from them though.
>>83413249
>DPH fucked up the nerves the most
Afaik it only acts on histamine receptors. Therefore I don't think it'd impact the nervous system, but maybe I dont know enough about histamine.

have a hard time finding info on ket effects short term
i have a work event tomorrow night and am wondering if i can try out ket for the first time during the day, like what's the timeline, am i going to be a zombie or back to normal after a couple hours?
asking because i hope it might make the work party bearable

>>83413622
>hard time finding info on ket
Did you check the psychonaut wiki and erowid exp vault?
>work event
>try out ket for the first time
I'd avoid it unless you have a good couple of hours between them (the end of the come down and the start of the event). Even the after effects of many drugs can influence you in subtle ways. That being said, if you insist on it then perhaps this could work (rough outline):
>8am dose ket
>9-10am peak
>11am comedown
>multiple hours of down time to reflect on the experience and finish sobering up
>4pm work event

>make the work party bearable
Just use a light dose of a sedative (or a little nicotine, imo). I'd avoid trying ket and instead save it for a weekend or some other comfy time without the looming expectation of responsibilities.

>>83413723
thanks anon, i'll wait. i heard good things so i better make my first time a good one

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how much do methylphenidate and lisdexamfetamine differ in terms of effect per dose? my script got changed to the latter and i wanna know what i can expect out of these new doses.

>>83414324
lis dexamphetamine is a pro drug, so it needs to be cellularly respire to became the active form dextroamphetamine. So 15 mgs of lis is to dex, and dex is like 30 mgs to 15 milligram methylphenidate to Lisdexamfetamine.

>Target has 2x bottles of Storebrand Zzzquil on sale online and in store

>>83414355
uhm can you explain this for a stupid scatterbrain? i used to take 40mg of Ritalin LA so how much vyvanse would i need to achieve the same amount of focus?

>>83385885
Moar like 2CB edition, might try that stuff again sometime, wonder what the experience will be as a BA Christian as one time i took it i got an information overload about the many ways society tries to shift people away from our Lord and Savior

Will be a one off as psychedelics can open you to unclean spirits

>>83413394
As someone who's attempted to use phenibut to replace alcohol:
Phenibut is obviously superior in every way, but dosing is way harder. Alcohol is available everywhere. With phenibut you have to know your dosing schedule, when it's going to kick in, and not take so much it makes you sleepy. And then it's going to be weird to explain that you're not drinking but still seem drunk.

>>83401156
thats pretty old school anon, sure u dont want to just roll it in a joint with some tobacco?

taking morphine for the first time

what does 40mg vyvanse feel like? i've been taking 20mg and felt nothing for the past week and plan to get a dose increase

How bad is mixing alcohol with Xanax?
I have been mixing Pregabalin 300mg with 2 - 3 beers maybe twice a week after work to take the edge off and despite people warning me it feels great, I get drunk quicker.
So I figured it would be the same with alcohol yet people on Reddit are saying it can kill you?

>>83417765
>people warning me
>it can kill you?
What they mean is that it can be easily overdone. Both of those drugs work via the same mechanism (gaba A agonism) so when you take both, they ramp up each other. Their effects stack/amplify each other, making it easy to overdo it. In other words, if you're responsible then it is alright, but it requires a level of carefulness that many people don't have. Especially if you ever make decisions on dosing while you are already intoxicated.

It's another one of those things in life where the bottom percentile of society will inevitably fuck it up, so we just tell everyone not to in order to be safe. Heed one last warning, though, that if you think that bottom percentile might include you that you should avoid it while you're still alive.

>>83417848
>>83417848
If the risk comes from overdoing it then I will be fine, I don't binge drink and I ration my drugs because they aren't always easy to get. I have 10 pregabalin left which I want to last me until Mid January so I stopped taking them. I always stopped at 3 beers because that was the amount needed to get nice and tipsy, there was no need to continue. I haven't been blackout drunk in my life or done anything I regret drunk, I just drink heavily socially twice a year and get comfy drunk at home on my PC next to my bed.

>>83416360
Did not have a paper or tobacco. Been sticking with edibles desu, just had some stuff I forgot about to smoke in the cabinet.

>>83417765
Both combinations are genuinely dangerous. Downer combos put you at risk for OD.

>>83385885
Holy fuck boys I was looking like every 15 mins to see if my package was arrived. I fell asleep. 4 hours later I look and it shows "delivered" while I sleeped.

Ran outside I was looking fucking everywhere no package. I don't panic yet they probably just put it somewhere weird they always do. Then I look at the picture and it's just this zoomed in picture of nothing. My heart fucking dropped.

I seriously thought the mailman stole my shit and I was about to freak how that means I'm doomed to horrible w/ds and hell at the worst time (Christmas and family visiting tmrw). Man that was the most fear I ever felt. Thank God I found it dude just dropped it off in the weirdest place. Everytime it's like a scavenger hunt but this was 1st time the picture was fake.


Never thought of it before but mailman stealing your package has gotta be the worst thing because you can't even report them unless u have balls of steel.

>>83418135
God dang. You can never report them because you would have to say what it was that they stole, lol. What was the package?

Just popped that gas station d8 weed gummie over hea.

>>83385885
hebe 2b is hot

>>83418352
>gas station d8 weed gummie
I used to love those so much. Haven't done one in years now. Too bad they're making it illegal again. I hate politicians. They really hate us so much, like they literally seethe uncontrollably with anger at the thought of some hard working American enjoying reefer in the peace and sanctity of their own home while bothering no one after a rough day/week of laboring. The very thought of a person relaxing fills them with murderous rage. Unless it's alcohol. Lmao.

Well I told my mom about the extend of my drug usage
She wants me to get my health checked out i have been having some serious issues
and get mental help
I quit allready some time ago so i wont need rehab
but i feel weird about it all
for some reason really ashamed
ah it is what it is i hope i havent damaged my health too bad over the years i did some stupid stuff
ggs i guess stay within safe dosages

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I feel like if I want to actually become independent and semi-successful I have to quit drugs but this sucks and I might just kill myself ngl.

I constantly feel my skin on my left neck side and upper left chest like its tight its so annoying

>>83419134
gl anon

Going to goon on poppers, weed and MDMA. Then valium to wind down.

Never done poppers before. Will it be pointless on MDMA/weed? Can I take valium a few hours after poppers without worry?

>>83420264
Never done poppers but from what I understand they have an incredibly bad risk/reward ratio.

tell me what i should do to prep for ket
it's gonna kind of knock me out right so sitting at the PC probably won't work, i'm thinking headphones and phone for music but will i be able to use my phone? will i even want to listen to music?

>>83420365
>they have an incredibly bad risk/reward ratio.
Aww.

>>83420264
>Will it be pointless on MDMA/weed
They should combo just fine. Just follow normal precautions like making sure you aren't standing up when you do them (for risk of falling due to blood pressure changes).
>valium a few hours after poppers
The mechanism of most poppers, afaik, is over within a few minutes. Waiting a few hours would certainly be long enough.
>>83420504
>sitting at the PC probably won't work
Should be alright if you are doing low doses. Complete physical ebriation comes from moderate/higher amounts. Perhaps you can start at your PC but then move to a bed/couch if you take more later on.
>headphones and phone for music
Solid plan.
>will i be able to use my phone
Most people describe it as being only as inebriating as alcohol at low doses, so you'll probably be fine using your phone.
>will i even want to listen to music
Everyone I've known who has used dissos has always loved music while on them.

>>83409797
>I wonder when that stopped?
OP here. I start a /drugfeel/ thread whenever I see there isn't one and am lazy to include the links, but I'll try to at least add erowid and psychonautwiki in the future.

Any way to deal with or reduce nausea from pills?

>>83394024
>What do? How sell?
Prescription meds groups on Telegram sell all kinds of scrips meds. Even APs. Find one such group, contact dealers, offer to be a source of those meds, and get paid upfront. They score 6 boxs or less a month of whatever they sell, so a small amount is expected. Someone will be in need somewhere, for sure. Otherwise give them back to the hospital; nausea meds aren't really in demand.

>>83395500
Take a break and think about it all when at baseline and can look at it from the side.

>>83396086
>which should i try first for my "therapy" the ket or the mdma
MDMA is a safer bet to get positive results, so I'd recommend to start with that.
>how do y'all crush these
Either in the baggie or in a tinfoil envalope. Crush them with a blunt object though I used my heel sometimes when no tool was on hand. Be careful not to have air in the baggie or have too tight an envalope so it won't pop a hole and spill out.

>>83396103
Reagent kits are available and cheap. That said, I just try a little and go from there since kits aren't common where I'm at. There are also labs that offer tests depends on where you're from.

>>83400456
The thread will never die as long as there are druggies with no life on 4chan and this seems to be the case for the near future. At least I know I'll be here if anyone.

>>83421928
>pills
Do you mean from a specific drug or from the awkward feeling of swallowing pills in general? The answer could vary a lot.

>>83422007
I take various drugs but one specifically feels more unpleasant to swallow than the rest because of its consistency. But I think the nausea could also be a side effect from all I take, it gets worse when I take that specific drug though

>>83401356
The plain leaf isn't as addictive as extracts or outright 7OH tablets and you'll need much of it to get addicted or have a solid experience. A little experimenting will be safe enough. That said, it is pretty habit forming in the long run. What I'd do is get a small amount of a medium-high strength stuff and just try it once or twice to get the full experience without having enough to sustain/start an addiction.

>>83401382
I just got oxy for the first time. It's 10mg pills and I took one, waited for 30mins and felt lile I needed more. Ended-up taking 30mg to get to a good level. It depends on your weight, but 20-30mg is a good starting dose for me.

>>83402358
I know a guy who makes chocolate. It's a really cool hobby.

>>83402434
Wisdom right here.

>>83403689
You can just lie like me and get a script anyway.

>>83422038
>consistency
What kind of pills are these? I don't know what kind of physical hardness/softness would make a pill feel nauseating.

Also, I have an idea that it might be an association you have from that drug that makes you feel weird while swallowing it. For example, I get a sick feeling from even smelling alcohol because I associate the nausea from its effects with it's smell, so even the smell of it makes me feel sick. Therefore I think some kind of association could be happening in your case (but idk).

>when I take that specific drug though
What is that specific drug? If you don't want to be specific, just giving a category would be fine (eg. opioid) because of the ways in which different drugs work.

>>83402859
I've been wanting to experiment with Opioids for a while and got the chance to buy some today. I wanted 2-4 pills of oxy but the dealer only sells full boxes so I ended-up with 30 pills. It's expensive enough to keep it as a very rare treat. You won't ruin your life with a little experimentation. I'm bored too, but will redose again only next week and keep it a once a week thing (or longer) until I run out and won't buy again for a long time. If you're worried, get plain Kratom leaf, it's way harder to get addicted to cus you need a lot and it gets you nauseaous, it's just inconvenient.

>>83403687
>it takes months to go back to baseline
Afaik, one month is enough to get back to baseline.

>>83422117
The drug is lithium. It kind of tastes bitter and salty at the same time, and has a consistency that's kind of hard at first but when you drink it down it kind of feels like it's starting to dissolve and turn into a paste and the whole thing is really disgusting. Funny enough, it didn't cause me this problem when I first started taking it, so it might just be mostly psychological.

>>83406694
MDMA is a great feel-good drug and can give you the space to be introspective in a good environment. A change in situation can help a lot with depression, so consider big moves like moving out or a different job.

>>83422216
nta but isn't a molly come-down pure depression?

>>83402859
>>83422143
Oxy is fun but whatever you do, stick to oral only, snorting it is way too good.

>>83408273
>unfortunately this means I can never take this again
If you know you can't handle your shit, it's a good idea. But you could have a sustainable Kratom habit if you practice moderation.

>>83409243
Once a month is researched to be the safest. Also, only take cryatals, you don't know what's in the pills.

>>83422242
>stick to oral only
That's the plan. I could never stomach snorting anyway.

>>83422228
Not if you do low-medium dose and avoid physical activity. I've done MDMA plenty of times and the most I got was an after-glow that was pleasent.

>>83422172
>bitter and salty
>dissolve into paste
That sounds awful. I assume this is perscription, so perhaps could you ask your psychiatrist for a different brand of lithium? I looked it up and there a few, so perhaps asking them if there is a capsule version (or just any other with that uses different binder material) could help.
>mostly psychological
I think it is, but bad tastes and consistencies can make anything suck. In the mean time, perhaps swallowing it with meat (like how you give pills to dogs using bologna) would help mask it (both in flavor and texture).

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>>83422143
>I wanted 2-4 pills of oxy but the dealer only sells full boxes so I ended-up with 30 pills.
I'm not sure if your dealer is clever or dumb for making you get a whole box.

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I'm so happy! I was curious af about those two drugs. Thought I'd never be able to try those cus no one was selling it on Telegram. After a month or two of hunting and only finding scetchy offers, I've finally found an honest businessman on a prescription meds selling group that was selling both Lyrica and Oxycodone.
Tried oxy first today. The box was sealed with a piece of tape so it should be legit. Took 30mg and felt mildly warm and slight euphoria; will try again next week. Shit was pretty expensive so I won't be doing this often and will keep it as a rare treat.
My plan is to do 300mg Lyrica next week, is it a good starting dose?

>>83422494
Good idea, I'll ask for a different brand. I even think there's an XR version that maybe comes in a capsule.
I've actually been taking it during meals to try and mask the taste, I would've given up on it already otherwise.

>>83422502
That's basic economics of business. Selling in bulk is easier to manage from the supplier's side while being undesirable for the buyer, so typically deals are made to make the product cheaper per unit for increased quantities per sale. I don't think it'd be completely dumb to do a bigger purchase if, as the anon says, it's as a long term treat to occasionally enjoy. It's not like they fell for some kind of marketing, at least.
>>83422562
Solid man, I'm glad I could help.

>>83422502
No one is selling singles. Only boxes. That makes sense cus sending a delivery for less will be stupid and not worth it. Ended-up alright since I needed 30mg to get a good effect anyway and I'd like to do it again next week.
Kinda felt disconnected from reality with a bit of warmth and a little euphoeia. Not bad, but also not as overwhelmingly good as people say it is. Also, not planning on snorting it.

>>83422546
I took pregabalin for like a year for anxiety and honestly all it did was make me sleepy. I don't remember the dose sadly. Make sure you take it on an off day because if you have a similar reaction to mine it's gonna get hard to do stuff

>>83422653
>Make sure you take it on an off day
Got it. All my days are off days hehe.

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planning to get some oxy for new years and spending it alone because all my friends want to go to a club and i fucking hate clubs
drinking today but i'm going to be sober until then likely
>>83417518
how did you like it? tried it myself for the first time just like 2 weeks ago but honestly it wasn't as good as i was expecting
haven't tried that many opis but my list would be
oxy > tramadol > morphine > codeine > buprenorphine
shame i can't really do tramadol anymore because i'm on bupropion and it fucks with the liver enzymes that metabolize it, think i used to be ultrametabolizer but now even with a few days off the bupropion i don't feel them like i used to
then again might be overrating tramadol because it was the first opioid i tried
>>83422143
didn't touch any for 4 years after experimenting a bit and finding them to be better than life when i was a shutin but doing better now and been experimenting with them a little recently
just be careful you don't let the addiction creep up on you, people online say that it's very easy to start breaking those lines you set for yourself and hence i never get more than a few doses worth
>>83422546
300mg is a good starter dose, if you like them try not to do them it more than once or twice a week to keep the best euphoric effects
i had a stint last year where i abused the shit out of it and was taking 1g+ doses nearly every other day and while i didn't get bad wds i feel like i need to at least take 600mg to get a decent high now

alright bros tomorrow 350ug LSD (first time going this high) and considering doing the ket on the comedown. or should i do ket on its own some other day to see what it's like first?

>>83422983
>see what it's like first
If you haven't tried it by itself first, I would avoid comboing it for now. I've heard many people vouch for comboing psychs and dissos together and, in fact, never do one without the other, but I think introducing the experience by itself first would be better. If you're planning to do a new high dose of psychs, then I think leaving the disso aside for now would allow you to handle that better. My thinking is that in the worst case scenario, it'd be nice to have a familiar understanding of what's happening than to introduce something unknown that could skew things.

Also, assuming you have a benzo, you would be more safely able to use that sedative alongside the psych in case of a bad trip, in which having the disso could be a bit risky (due to oversedation). Assuming you don't just have a 5ht-2a antagonist for a proper trip killer, though.

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just secured a deal of 2g for a fiver from a dude tryna get rid of his weed, i dont even care if i get sold straight stems or oregano im so happy i got this steal

>>83422678
How can you sustain a neetlife in big 2026-1/12

>>83423080
nah i ain't scared of the trip, don't have any trip killers or benzos. i was just thinking that maybe there's value in doing ket on its own and i might waste it by comboing it with something else. thanks for advice

>>83422844
>might be overrating tramadol because it was the first opioid i tried
Tramadol was the first Opioid I tried, too. It was a good feeling, but never did more than 100mg. Made me relaxed af.
>after experimenting a bit and finding them to be better than life when i was a shutin
I'm a shutin NEET myself rn. They don't feel as good as people make them out to be imo. But maybe it's cus they snort it and I'd never. I mean, they feel good, but not life ruiningly good so far.
>be careful you don't let the addiction creep up on you, people online say that it's very easy to start breaking those lines you set for yourself
Thanks for the advice, also I know the pic you shared and hope that's not me :p. So far I have good habits with drugs, I believe, so I think I can keep myself in line.
>300mg is a good starter dose
Thanks. I'm going by psychonautwiki, so coming from a person with experience goes a long way.
>try not to do them it more than once or twice a week
I plan on only doing both once a week (oxy Thur and Lyrica Mon/Tue). I'm used to only doing Meth once a week and never broke that line for the last 9+ months, ever since I started using it, so I think I can hold my shit together. Don't wanna jinx it though, Opioids and GABApentinoids are uncharted territory for me. Knock on wood.

>>83422546
Bro is slavshit

>>83423099
I live on disability (>1600$/mo) for 3-4
years now, which is enough for rant, food, and a bit of drugs. But my mom pays my electric bill, meds, internet, and phone bill, and it helps a lot. I honestly can't see myself not being a NEET and have been for the last 8 years.

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>>83423324
>Tramadol was the first Opioid I tried, too. It was a good feeling, but never did more than 100mg.
max i did before getting on bupropion was 200mg and it was one of my most fond drug experiences
200mg with bupropion was worse than buprenorphine tho so that sucks
>I'm a shutin NEET myself rn. They don't feel as good as people make them out to be imo. But maybe it's cus they snort it and I'd never. I mean, they feel good, but not life ruiningly good so far.
different brainchemistries and mindsets and shit
i've snorted oxy and while it was good i think i can handle it now, needles are where it really gets fucked but not touching those unless i want to off myself with oding
>Thanks for the advice, also I know the pic you shared and hope that's not me :p. So far I have good habits with drugs, I believe, so I think I can keep myself in line.
i lost my self control when i gave up on my life and became a shutin neet myself but do keep it up and never break those lines
it becomes much much harder to even try to keep them once you break them once
>Thanks. I'm going by psychonautwiki, so coming from a person with experience goes a long way.
yeah in my experience you can mostly trust it but do take weight into mind
even while i made lyrica worse for myself it's still easily one of my favorite drugs, kind of like a mild mix of opis, benzos, stims and weed
again different brainchemistries and shit
> I'm used to only doing Meth once a week and never broke that line for the last 9+ months, ever since I started using it, so I think I can hold my shit together. Don't wanna jinx it though, Opioids and GABApentinoids are uncharted territory for me
never liked stims myself but haven't tried meth and not really planning to, downers are where it's at for me and funnily enough the drug i've abused the hardest is booze
got alcoholic genetics tho so it's unbelieveably euphoric without tolerance and the first time i drank i totally understood why people fuck up their lives for it

>>83422983
300ug+ is where LSD stops being predictable for me, and things take a real weird turn. Hope it goes alright. Also, if it's your fist time doing ket, I'd do it separately. Get to know ket first before mixing it with other shit. My worst mistake with LSD was taking it with weed the first few times. Then when I took it by itself it was a whole different (and more manageable) experience.

>>83423091
Nice. That's real cheap.

How is robotripping on gels like compared to the putrid nauseating syrup in terms of nausea?

>>83417765
I've done that combo many times, but i acted like a complete POS except when I combined it with weed. Very euphoricike a slow paced version of ecstacy but wouldn't recommend with the risk factors and potential brain damage, I had a few scary sleep apnea episodes and destroyed relationships with that ungodly combo

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I am a fucking junky but that's what is like these times I guess I guess

>>83422546
Man lyrica is amazing, is one of the comfiest drugs out there and atleast for me is not that addictive, treat it with respect anon, you don't want to ruin it for yourself trust me.

>>83418956
Yea the gas station/smoke shop gummies have saved my life plenty these past 5 or 6 years now. Looks like they will be gonzo after this year though with the new farm bill. I live in an legal state either way. I hear its been thrown around that weed is gonna be federally legalized soon though.

>>83423446
>200mg with bupropion was worse than buprenorphine tho so that sucks
How does that work? Don't it increase Dopamine levels?
>different brainchemistries and mindsets and shit
Sure thing.
>i've snorted oxy and while it was good i think i can handle it now
I've heard snorting it is very addictive, which is one of the reasons I won't do it.
>needles are where it really gets fucked but not touching those
Yeah, good idea.
>i lost my self control when i gave up on my life
I gave up in the past and can see how it could happen. Now I have more hope despite not having a solid direction.
>it becomes much much harder to even try to keep them once you break them once
Ime that's true.
>kind of like a mild mix of opis, benzos, stims and weed
That's how people keep describing it and I can't imagine the feeling, which is why I was so curious about it and why I got some. Got high hopes for it.
>never liked stims myself but haven't tried meth and not really planning to
To each their own, I enjoy stims a lot. Though, I tend to recommend people to try Meth at least once in life, it's totally understandable that you don't like stims. It treats me well so far.
>the drug i've abused the hardest is booze
A bad way to go if you ask me. Booze is hardcore shit in high doses.
>got alcoholic genetics
I feel for you. I only got blackout drunk once in my life and never doing that again. But I understand how people can get hooked, especially with the genes for it.

>>83423704
Everybody ITT is saying it's amazing and I'm glad I could find a source for it. I'm mad with curiousity. How would I ruin it? I plan on taking 300mg (4 75mg pills) once a week at most. Maybe up the dosage a little bit later down the line to try it out.

>>83423797
bupropion is a ndri (norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor although the dopamine part is very mild) but it is also a strong cyp2d6 inhibitor (whic metabolizes tramadol in to odsmt)
>I've heard snorting it is very addictive
the faster the onset the worse the addictive potential, smoking would be worse, im next and iv the worst
>I gave up in the past and can see how it could happen. Now I have more hope despite not having a solid direction
i'm starting to have more hope but the self control isn't coming back
might have caused brain damage with alcohol and that shit makes you more impulsive
>That's how people keep describing it and I can't imagine the feeling
some people absolutely love it and some think it's mid asf, miss and hit kind of drug but if you like it it's one of the best
>To each their own, I enjoy stims a lot. Though, I tend to recommend people to try Meth at least once in life, it's totally understandable that you don't like stims
to be fair i've only really tried amphetamine and methylphenidate (pure stims, also lsd and mdma if you count them) but didn't really like either of them
>Booze is hardcore shit in high doses
yeah... tell me about it...
at my worst only drank myself into mild-medium withdrawals but lets just say that downing half liters of vodka for weeks straight and having to stop because of liver and pancreas pain and withdrawing was not fun
gabaergic kindling is the part that really makes this shit suck, once you fuck yourself with withdrawals every time you do it again it will be worse
>I feel for you. I only got blackout drunk once in my life and never doing that again. But I understand how people can get hooked, especially with the genes for it
yeah, i refuse to touch anything stronger than beer now when i'm around people but even when i'm by myself i end up fucking myself
once i start drinking i just can't stop, it's like another person takes the wheel and that person doesn't care about anything aside from drinking more

>>83423937
>the faster the onset the worse the addictive potential, smoking would be worse, im next and iv the worst
nta, is this the case for all drugs?

>>83423704
I had to quit it cause it gave me the memory of a goldfish and made me feel hypnotised, the euphoria, the sort of stim but painkiller feeling was nice but not worth it in the long run imo, quitting CT had little to no wd effects which is surprising for a drug with GABA literally in its name

>>83422103
Would rather not run the risk of getting arrested but thx

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>executive order reclassifying marijuana as schedule III
Thanks Based Trump

>>83423937
>a strong cyp2d6 inhibitor
Oh, I see! I didn't know that.
>smoking would be worse, im next and iv the worst
True.
>the self control isn't coming back
I thought you said you can handle it better now?
>miss and hit kind of drug but if you like it it's one of the best
Can't wait to try it.
>only really tried amphetamine and methylphenidate
I did both and liked them. But they were too addictive for me. Meth lasts long, so you can reach a good level and stay there for a good while without the need to redose, so it's easy to keep use in check.
>once you fuck yourself with withdrawals every time you do it again it will be worse
Damn. Sorry you had to go through that.
>once i start drinking i just can't stop, it's like another person takes the wheel and that person doesn't care about anything aside from drinking more
If I had the genes for it, I'd stay away from Alchohol altogether, it's just too scary to fall down that hole. Sounds like a real demon to deal with, but if you do, you'd end-up pretty strong. I used to drink alone for sleep and escape before I got scripts for benzos and such, but didn't drank more than 1/4 of a wine bottle (12%) a night. Had a period where I'd drink Absinth (70%) and it really made me fly, though I kept it under control. Organ pain is something I am familiar with; having heart and intestinal pain from stims (Meth is really bad for the stomach when taken orally, as I do) yet I didn't stop when that happend but might do if it gets any worse. Be sure to be safe, anon. I know how not being able to stop feels like, impulsivity can be very overwhelming sometimes especially when under-influence. How are you dealing with it nowdays?

>>83424308
How'd you risk getting arrested for lying to a psychiatrist? Just say you have trouble focusing and maybe you've tried some med from a friend and it helped. It's really easy getting an ADHD diagnosis nowdays ime. Worst case scenario they say no.

>>83424013
interestingly enough pregabalin isn't actually a gabaergic, only gaba activity it has is downstream
>>83424573
>I thought you said you can handle it better now?
better than at my worst but nowhere near how i used to be able to use droogs
>Damn. Sorry you had to go through that.
my own fault but what yeah shit sux and i'm not getting my old brain back
don't even need to drink for a week now to be in pain
> it's just too scary to fall down that hole. Sounds like a real demon to deal with
yeah... the worst part is that for the rest of your life it's available in every fucking store
>I used to drink alone for sleep and escape before I got scripts for benzos and such,
same really, i used to have horrible insomnia, not on benzos but doxepin does make me fall asleep now
part of why i couldn't stop drinking was knowing i would have to stay awake for several days to be able to sleep and that shit sux when you are feeling anxiety so bad you wish you were dead
>How are you dealing with it nowdays?
much better but i don't think you really lose a gabaergic addiction once you start one, even when i'm off the hooch for months once i get started it's like continuing the first binge and i just keep doing it without any care in the world
at my worst i think i mixed 8mg of alprazolam with half liters of vodka/1500mg of pregabalin with the same amount of vodka...in less than 10 both times hours
the most i've drank was nearly a liter of rum in a night after a sleepless night... actually could have died...
even been arrested once for my drinking but it was "only" alcohol and i blew .25 bac which isn't the worst
also i think i've done permanent damage with that shit... but well yeah
it's fucking weird where with my alcohol use i sound like a complete degenerate who wants to die but with every other drug i take harm reduction into account... i mean for fucks sake i use opioids more responsibly...

>>83424012
NTA either but ROA does play a role, but is not ultimately the deciding factor. Morphine or Cocaine is extremely addictive regardless of route of administration. But the quicker the onset and the shorter the duration and the more compulsive the use.

>>83424743
>better than at my worst but nowhere near how i used to be able to use droogs
I see. Age takes a toll on all of us.
>don't even need to drink for a week now to be in pain
Damn. Are withdrawals that persistent if you get them once?
>it's available in every fucking store
It's wild to me people underestimate Alchohol to that point.
>i would have to stay awake for several days to be able to sleep and that shit sux when you are feeling anxiety so bad you wish you were dead
I have insomnia but not several days worth. And also have anxiety, mostly in public, but I know how that could feel.
>i don't think you really lose a gabaergic addiction once you start one
I find it hard to believe but I've never been addicted to anything for too long, or long enough to have withdrawals. So I can't really say.
>at my worst i think i mixed 8mg of alprazolam with half liters of vodka/1500mg of pregabalin with the same amount of vodka
Wow, that's a lot.
>the most i've drank was nearly a liter of rum in a night after a sleepless night... actually could have died
Damn. I like rum though. It's my favorite spirit.
>i think i've done permanent damage with that shit
Maybe, Alchohol can do that. At least you didn't get Alchohol psychosis. Tough I believe the brain is very plastic and can heal from very bad states, maybe not fully, but somewhat.
>it's fucking weird where with my alcohol use i sound like a complete degenerate who wants to die but with every other drug i take harm reduction into account
Well, it makes sense seeing you've got the genes for it.

>>83423773
Only reclassified.
Not full legalization, now it's in the same legal category as ket.
Allegedly to make even research easier. Despite the fact it's been the most researched plant ever in the history of humanity.
And rec use is still federally illegal as it's still a control medical substance with reclassification.

For full legalization it has to be declassified totally

>>83424335
Not as good as the farm bill they axed but it's progress.

>>83424993
>Damn. Are withdrawals that persistent if you get them once?
not once but every time you get them they get worse and there is no coming back
that's what makes kindling so bad, it just gets worse and worse
>It's wild to me people underestimate Alchohol to that point.
i thought i knew what i was doing and didn't care enough but honestly opioid addiction is better than this shit
i mean it's legal for fucks sake, people act like cannabis is a gateway drug while this piece of shit is fully legal... wew
idk
>I have insomnia but not several days worth. And also have anxiety, mostly in public, but I know how that could feel.
yeah... and while alcohol cures all that it also makes it much worse
sleeping pills somewhat help but there is nothing like being free from all anxiety after you have experienced that
>I find it hard to believe but I've never been addicted to anything for too long, or long enough to have withdrawals. So I can't really say.
grass is always greener on the other side but wouldn't wish this on anyone type of shit
>Maybe, Alchohol can do that. At least you didn't get Alchohol psychosis. Tough I believe the brain is very plastic and can heal from very bad states, maybe not fully, but somewhat.
proper delirium tremens and psychosis take time and many fuck ups but what's really scary is that it's just a matter of time if you don't stop drinking...
benzos are even worse mentally but they don't fuck you up as bad physically...
>Well, it makes sense seeing you've got the genes for it.
yeah... nearly half of my close relatives drank themselves to death...
it's like an inevitability i'm somehow supposed to avoid but don't really even want to...

>>83425086
>Allegedly to make even research easier.
Going from Schedule 3 to Schedule 1 means that there is medical use that's federally recognized. So for one you can get medicare/medicaid to pay for your weed if you have it prescribed. And there is probably a bunch of other stuff that this enables when it comes to inter-state commerce and interactions with the federal government. It's a step in the right direction and will make marijuana/CBD/THC that much more legal.

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>>83425096
I just saw, grats!

>>83425113
Harsh stuff. Thanks for the talk, mate. Goodluck with everything. It was interesting.

>>83425209
Hopefully it makes banking and tax deductions more normal at the very least.

>>83425264
shit sux but i did it to myself
always keep in mind that the stuff they keep legal is somefuckinghow worse than the illegal shit tho