Never kill you're self.
no butter??
>>83403267ayo nigga get thisput a bit of butter on each side of the breadgrill that shit up like a grilled cheeseMMMMyummy, best way to have PB&J and spice it up a bit
>>83403267never kill you are self?
Never lose yovr smile..
>>83403267enjoy your star trekim taking a break and watching the twilight zone
>>83403281It's literally called PeanutBUTTER
holy shit its you againwhy window star trek so badly like that tho.......... ;-;
>>83403346:o you lyin
>>83403267I don't understand the hype TNG gets. It even made VOYAGER look like high art. Come home to DS9 and then take the babylon 5 pill
>>83403961TNG is the only Trek I've ever seen and it's the only Trek I ever will see. The rest all look gay and retarded.TNG is Star Trek.
>>83403965ds9 and voyager basically ARE tng just expanded universe contenttheres not really a difference
>>83404001Nah, everything looks weird. The sets, the lighting. A nigger captain? A woman captain? Nah.
You're just like the rick and morty reddit guy haha
>>83404007you're are just describing characters. the difference between ds9-voyager-tng is just which characters and sound stage sets you prefer which is clearly superficial but the original french captain janeway was so much better she was so deeply feeling and thoughtful compared to the captain-kirk-as-a-woman janeway they went with everyone would have adored voyager had they stuck with the french intellectual janewaybut my big ass dick is too big to talk to you
>>83404027No I'm not shut up idiotface
>>83404040>the difference between ds9-voyager-tng is just which characters and sound stage sets you preferno, the difference between tng and the other 2 is that tng was written under the thumb of gene roddenberry who wrote it into the contract that starfleet could never be wrong about anything or portrayed as anything other than a perfect paragon of all virtue. Impossible to have any sort of moral depth to the plot with those restrictions. Even just compare TNG main series with the movie first contact (which didn't have the restrictions anymore).
>>83404027...but what if reddit guy had sixx pac abs?
>>83404044I'm just fucking with you I like pb&js too
>>83404057? the first episode of tng introduces the question posed by q that humanity (and thus starfleet) is inherently evil and is guilty until proven innocent in his court which is what the entire show is about up to the final episodemoral integrity is challenged constantly
>>83404058GOT HEEEEEEM
OP here, closing this thread because gay faggot niggers have ruined it. Die nigger faggot.
>>83404068The point of the whole Q plot arc was to prove conclusively that humanity WAS perfect and the godlike Q was wrong. Compare that with section 31 in DS:9 which tried to commit genocide against the founders through a biological weapon or captain Sisko using spycraft murder forgery and assassination to trick the Romulan empire into breaking a non-aggression pact at the cost of massive casualties.
>>83404078say the hard r and receive a bbc :)
>>83404086section 31 existed during tng you can't use the existence of evil generally as a criticism against persons specifically rodenberry wrote espionage and bad actors for tng but i don't remember the name of the admiral but he looks like bill belichickbut i don't remember sisqo doing anything unethical
>>83404117Section 31 is not in TNG, it was first written for DS:9. I am not pulling any of this out of my ass, "gene roddenberry's rules for star trek" were always public knowledge and the writers openly expressed disdain for how stupid they were for how badly they hamstrung storytelling. One of the most egregious examples is the episode "Conspiracy" where he refused to allow them to make it unless the starfleet rogue officers were replaced with alien parasites.>but i don't remember sisqo doing anything unethicalhe commits flat out treason, war crimes and crimes against humanity multiple times, you clearly didn't watch very clearly
>>83403267I wouldn't killBut am I really self?
ive thought about it but never once attempted. be me and be 60k in debt and make an inconsistent pay cheque that ranges 1100-4000 every two weeks and not being able to plan anything unless we have work. life sucks for everyone but somebody else always has it worse. not to mention living in a basement suite with rowdy upstairs neighbours who party every other day
>>83404141yeah but you can't throw section 31 just existing as evidence for anything rodenberry was never so idealistic to imply that bad people just don't exist in his universe and i'm too lazy to chatgpt this for proofs but we both know this bears outand you have no counterpoint for my bill belichick rebuttal you side stepper. he was a bad guy.sisqo is morally ambiguous to the point of needs-of-the-many-outweigh-needs-of-the-few (does that ring a bell) and ds9 is set in a politically messy areabut anything sisqo does can be interpreted as being for the greater goodwhich is very different from just calling him unethical
>>83404168https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KrYGN9QmU&pp=ygUHcTUwIDYwaw%3D%3D
>>83404206>and you have no counterpoint for my bill belichick rebuttal you side stepper. he was a bad guy.Given he himself has never been in TNG and the extent of the information you gave me to identify what you are talking about is "and fat white admiral" I am pretty sure you are referencing one of the 3 admirals infected with alien parasites in Conspiracy that I explicitly mentioned you fuckwit. It is completely irrelevant though, to return to the actual point: TNG is objectively a worse series than DS:9 and even VOY from a storytelling standpoint because it was contractually handicapped in the storytelling tone and content it was allowed to use while the others were not, and it shows when you watch all 3 series.
>>83404231the bill bellichick admiral sent riker/picard (don't remember which - oh sowwy i don't remember every detail of a show from 30 years ago, you pedant) on what amounted to a suicide mission (no there were no parasites) and he was clearly and firmly written as a bad guy but its YOU who should immediately know what im talking about even with that scant information how do you not even recognize that face immediately he is bill belichick's seperated at birth twin huge red flag for you feel my disdain nowto me i think you are just re hashing what you heard someone say or stealing some recap from chatgpt you have no capacity for grey area - just this; or that thinking from you consider that needs-of-the-many and greater good morality is a maxim explored frequently by rondenberry and "sisqo" (YES i like the thong song spelling of the name) can be interpreted that way too since his actions can be elaborated as an expansion of that theme and thus ultimately consistent with rodenberry's ethicsno its not just "he was bad"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk&pp=ygUKdGhvbmcgc29uZw%3D%3D
>>83404313>I want to use data I don't actually remember to support my argument>I will not address the actual point>I will use no grammar and abysmal spelling and then pretend it is by design all alongOk retard, if you preferred the lowest-denominator slop in TNG because the DS9 plots were too hard for you to understand just say that.
>>83404328>y-you-spellled this word wrong so im actually righthis name was admiral jellico!!! how do you not even remember who this was and that he was written as an antagonist despite being a very high ranking starfleet officer completely contradicting your main point!!!
>>83404356Jellico was a captain and he was perfectly reasonable, he was just kinda a dick.
>>83403267damn i miss my parent's PiP monitor i used to watch spongebob on cable AND play runescape simultaneously
>>83404597>he was just kinda a dick.you are very obviously using chat gpt or frantically googling to try to talk about admiral (then captain, you pedant) jellico who you never even knew existed up until me needing to mention he was a character (uhhhh p-p-parasites?) >he was perfectly reasonablebecause its NOT morally ambiguous to use picard as a bargaining chip to avoid escalation with the kardashians yet his lying causing picard to undergo horrific torture? really?>Meanwhile, the Cardassians inform the Enterprise crew that Picard has been captured. Jellico refuses to acknowledge that Picard was on a Starfleet mission, an admission necessary for Picard to be given the rights of a prisoner of war rather than being subjected to torture as a terrorist. oh so captain sisqo (of thong song fame) is a bad guy to you but jellico can sacrifice picard's well being on a botched espionage mission to sabotage and destroy kardashian infrastructure just to save face for the federation and that means he's a good guy to you okkkkkkk"he was just kinda diick" meanwhile picard:>nooooo moral ambiguity only exists in ds999999
>>83404922I'm not that anon, I'm someone else. There was a woman admiral that gave orders to both captains. It was a perfectly reasonable mission because it was designed to capture Picard.
>>83403346That tastes like shit I tried it the other day
>>83405025torture is good, i got away with it and i was seen as cool
>>83404946>After intensive training in the holodeck, Picard, Worf, and Crusher discreetly arrive on Celtris III, and infiltrate the base. However, they find no signs of biological weapons, and suspecting a trap, they attempt to flee. Worf and Crusher escape, but Picard is taken prisonerthey were there to destroy a kardashian base (let me guess the murder and mayhem caused from doing this aren't morally ambiguous either? only morally ambiguous when set in ds9?) and the only trap is picard being taken prisonerunless the goal was to literally sacrifice picard and his well being all alongbecause he was brutally tortured which was implied as avoidable due to belichick's (and by extension starfleet's) inactionnone of this portrays starfleet as a paragon of virtuethough you can make the point it needed to be donebut that is MY whole pointthat there is moral ambiguity and grey zone happening here
>>83405025You called Jellico a bad actor. He wasn't. He, and Starfleet, and Picard were all acting with the best intentions with the information available to them. Nobody was morally ambiguous, they were all good guys. The Enterprise crew were resistant to a new captain who was clearly a temporary replacement for no reason while he was trying to run a ship about to enter negotiations on the brink of war. It was bad writing, really. Riker and Troi in particular were acting childish.
>starfleet never does anything morally ambiguous in tng>meanwhile picard
>>83403267over stupid reasons like loneliness or no gf,jpg i guess you're rightbut what about people with shit like tinnitus or chronic pain?
>>83405079"You called Jellico a bad actor. He wasn't.">Meanwhile, the Cardassians inform the Enterprise crew that Picard has been captured. Jellico refuses to acknowledge that Picard was on a Starfleet mission, an admission necessary for Picard to be given the rights of a prisoner of war rather than being subjected to torture as a terrorist.
>>83405089If he were to admit it they'd be admitting they invaded enemy territory and start a war. Picard is an adult and knew the risks. Jellico did nothing wrong and ordered actions which resulted in Picard being saved. He even put aside his pride and asked the whiny child Riker for his help piloting a shuttle.
>>83405112>If he were to admit it they'd be admitting they invaded enemy territory and start a war. Picard is an adult and knew the risks.yeah and that needs-of-the-many greater good reasoning can just as swiftly in turn be argued as perfectly in sync with sisqo's grey area moral ambiguity in ds9>nnnoooooo starfleet would never do anything wrong in tngyes this happened in tng as well as ds9scroll up>Jellico did nothing wrong>meanwhile picard
>>83403267I'm European and since I'm into fitness I include peanut butter in my diet, I eat peanut butter toasts as a snack. One time I wanted to try this peanut butter + jam thing that Americans like so much and it tasted like absolute shit, Americans are literally goy cattle
>>83403725i think u got meme'd anon. Im pretty sure he was trying to make a joke on the internets
>>83404058>>83404074its a bit weird to post pictures of me on 4chan but go ahead??
