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Why are men professional victims? So pathetic
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>>83427752
i don't know ms venti, why did you become irrelevant again?
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>>83427752
I wish we lived in a rape culture, rape is based.
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>>83427759
I hope ur mom gets bitch raped loser
You will probably get off on that thought albeit
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lets play a game anons. if my last digit are 0-2 OP is an incel playing psyops. if my digits are 3-5 OP is a demoralization bot. if my digits are 6-8 OP is a true femcel. if my digit is 9 OP is a 10/10 billionaire 20 year old woman
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Wow. That image really says it all. It sure does say.
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I've been crybullied by men so many times kek
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>>83427752
Modern women are so rape obsessed.
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>>83427752
uhhhhhh because 80% of millennials and zoomzooms got kicked out of the workforce because gen x and boomer males realised they could fulfill gender and race requirements entirely by putting foids and niggers in junior positions
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>>83427752
>>83427827
>>83427850
here, for context

https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/
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>>83427752
>Left
>Something that every man has experienced at least once
>happens every day to countless amounts of men
>Something that all women are guilty of doing at least once
>Right
>Either just jokes or things that very rarely happen and the vast majority of women will never even experience
>something only a microscopic fraction of men actually do
So, it basically seems like men are reacting logically based on personal experiences and women are just reacting emotionally about stuff that hasn't and will not ever happen to them so that they can play the victim.
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>>83427770
I don't care about my mom and women love getting raped so she'd probably enjoy it, who am I to judge her fun? Rape is based and some people I may or may not care about getting raped would not change that at all. RAPE IS BASED.
Are ya seething because your mommy got raped? You know she came, right? She loved it then and loves the memory of it even more now.
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>>83427857
>get everything handed to you in life
>dont get the 6 figure job you were destined for
>WAHWAHWAHWAHWAHWAH
Give me 1 (one) reason I should care.
>th-theyre the same color as you
Be serious.
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>>83427857
summarize the article please? doesn't have to be a long summary. i'm interested in career rejection
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>>83427899
if you have a penis and are younger than gen x, then you probably should be concerned about men like you, who have similar tastes and beliefs to you, getting shut out of the workforce and replaced with a bunch of niggers and cunts who are nothing like you. it can and has had a material impact on your life-BLM, feminism, girlboss movies, getting banned off social media, etc.
>>83427907
see;
>>83427850
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>>83427752
>>83427770
>I hope ur mom gets bitch raped loser
SAAAAAAR
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>>83427752
rejection is the most painful feeling ever but i can see how FEMALES will never ever understand that feeling so it looks unjustified. I also can see why trans women would come to this board and defend cis women retardedness in a desperate pursue of acception by the weaker sex
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>>83427915
so it's a poorly written article that is especially bad at math?
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>>83427937
aren't you catty today. i think there's certainly more to what i said than that
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>>83427857
It's good to hear someone finally giving a voice to a blatant issue I've dealt with my entire life, that we all were just kind of meant to pretend wasn't happening.

I'm a data analyst with over 4 yrs of experience and a bachelor's and never got paid more than $25/hr. During my last job search I was going on 2 yrs experience and had to send out 600+ applications and do nearly 20 interviews. I even took a course on it that many people said got them good jobs. I would see people who had no relevant work experience take this course and then get $70k/yr jobs. I saw someone post on a reddit for data analysis that they used to work as a receptionist and put bullshit in their resume trying to relate that to data analysis and were now making 6 figures. They were women.

Even the fucking course I took, which by the way, is filled with instructors that are almost entirely women or brown people, there's a girl there who tells a story about how she applied for a job and the interviewer asked her if she knew what sql was and when she said no he just told her to look it up for the 2nd interview and she got the fucking job.

I had one job I REALLY wanted that paid $70k/yr with good benefits and was a perfect match for my skillset. I prepared so hard for it. The hiring manager wasn't even on time for it. Then when I got the 2nd interview he didn't even show up. I instead talked to a brown woman working under him who told me she didn't know anything about this job before she started but she was able to learn thanks to them teaching her. I didn't get the job.

Another job in that process, $60k this time, I was literally told I was being hired, only for them to suddenly go back on their word. The recruiter even told me she didn't know what was going on and promised to get back to me after finding out why they chose not to hire me. I never found out.

Ended up getting a shitty job paying $50k/yr and with no pto, no bonuses, expensive healthcare. Gotta love White privilege.
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The things men hate about women apply to 99% of women. The things women hate about men apply to a fringe that is less than 5% of them, and despite "hating" those types of men they constantly reward them with sex.
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>>83427991
to be fair this isn't a "white privilege" thing, most of the beneficiaries of this have been white women. this is a millennial male thing-even indians and other asians haven't been immune because they didn't benefit from diversity programs.
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>>83428002
Yeah, you're right. I just wanted to end it on something snappy and was at the character limit so i couldn't fit male in there. But it is more of a male issue I've noticed from my experiences.
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>>83427752
It's not rape if it's under 6 inches remember
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>>83427857
>George Soros's Open Society Foundations have provided financial support to Compact. In 2023, OSF awarded Compact Magazine $200,000.
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>>83428082
>At a recent get-together, little lefty mags were roiled to learn that George Soros's foundations are supporting Compact, a publication that's flirted with authoritarianism
damn, he ain't so bad after all

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/progressive-mega-donor-funding-right-wing-ideas
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>>83427752
>dude you can't handle rejections :D
butwhatabout

>rape accusations
>cheating
>divorcerape
>alimony
>abortions
>women ruining economy
>women ruining society
>women ruining culture
>women ruining gaming
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>>83427752
Why do women who say they hate men keep voting to release violent rapists and felons out on the street and import brown sex assaulters by the boatloads?
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>>83427943
then don't be so roughshod. anyway all the huwhite males my age i know are killing it
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>>83428102
i assume they're not entering the professions and doing some crypto nonsense or something
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>>83428109
uh, no, they are housed and professional. it's not always about the money
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>>83428117
oh yeah? which professions?
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>>83428149
you want me to list all my old high school and uni buddies' jobs? seems a bit of a waste of time
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>>83428154
just a few examples, like you said they were all in the professions. which profession are the majority of them in?
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>>83428164
music, show biz, culinary, STEM, academia, education... what makes you think they all do the same thing?
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>>83428170
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professionalization#History

ok i was thinking more like engineers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, lecturers, stuff like that. not musicians and chefs
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>>83428186
that would be the uni group, and i did mention stem. i only know one person from irl who went to law school confirmed. a few people in academia too, which i mentioned along with STEM
but being a chef or musician teacher or session musician is still impressive IMO
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>>83427858
Most of my girlfriends unironically were raped or were in violent relationships. You really need just to go outside. Theres a lot of violent male.
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>>83428098
dude you cant handle accountability :D
>rape accusations
mens fear of consequences outweighs womens fear of rape only in male fantasies
>cheating
a patriarchal norm men excuse in themselves and punish in women
>divorcerape
a misogynist myth invented to frame women escaping men as criminals
>alimony
compensation for womens unpaid reproductive and domestic labor
>abortions
women refusing compulsory motherhood in a system built on female sacrifice
>women ruining economy
the economy relies on exploited female labor and collapses without it
>women ruining society
society is structured around male violence and calls women the problem
>women ruining culture
culture feels ruined when women stop tolerating misogyny
>women ruining gaming
male entitlement to women free spaces collapsing feels like oppression
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>>83428205
not professions though, i think most of those guys are going to end up stuck in very junior roles
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>>83427752
I don't hate women, tho.
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>>83427935
Rejection hurts because you were socialized to believe women exist to validate you
You are not suffering because you were rejected
You are suffering because you were taught access to women was a right, not a request
Your pain is not special, political, or revolutionary.
It is ordinary frustration colliding with the end of male entitlement.
Calling women weak is what men do when women refuse to absorb their emotions
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>>83428219
so a job only counts if you're on top? holy shit you're weird. i want to be a small part of something
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Women are so disgusting. Jesus dude
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>>83428262
yeah this is about professions with prestige and money, not being a fucking sound technician or line cook
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>>83427870
Men are so fucking stupid and disgusting
Men are not lonely enough
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Good on you guys for not responding to bait guys
Anytime someone says misogyny you can assume they are a midwit leftist and arent worth responding to
Marx and Lenin never talked about misogyny btw
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>>83428262
Rejection hurts men more because the way most women do it is brutal.

But anyway, a good example of this is how much women chimp out when a man rejects them. They're not used to it.
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become the monster women say you are

foids ideal society is sexless simps protecting them from societal damage that chads cause while fucking them
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>>83427858
Pretty much half of women and most of trans boys have been SAd
Moid violence is common
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>>83428316
Bingo
Im mostly apolitical
Well apart from being a radical environmentalist
But women force me to be misogynistic
They act irrationally and expect us to tolerate it
Cant have that
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>>83428321
Cool. What were they wearing while they were being sexually assaulted? :)
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>>83428321
Good.

Women usually choose the most miserable, aggresive men on the earth, I had to realise tat women yearn for rape
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>>83428301
Lmao you sound so sped
Women dont need male theorists approval to name their oppression
And male silence in theory has never meant female freedom in reality
>Marx didnt talk about it
a man didnt center women, so women shouldnt either? Talking to men like u is like talking a mentally retarded ape
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>>83428321
>men get raped too!
>Also men
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>>83428337
>opprssed by not working and doing the most basic tasks which is cook and clean and feed baby
WOW SO HARD
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>>83428321
good, if only it shut you up
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>>83428337
>foid admits that feminism isn't a leftist ideology
good one
>a man didnt center women, so women shouldnt either?
bitch is inferring points from the fucking dreamtime or something. marx didn't talk about it, therefore feminism isn't leftist.
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>>83428347
>Basic tasks
Cooking, cleaning, and childcare are the labor that reproduces the workforce and keeps men alive
Capitalism and patriarchy collapse without it
>Feed baby
Pregnancy, childbirth, and lactation permanently alter womens bodies and routinely maim or kill them
Men calling that basic have never risked their organs for it
Men are literally so useless this is why u have ur gspot inside ur ass
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>>83428362
>Marx didnt talk about it, so feminism isntleftist
Moid thinks thats a good rebuttal
Low iq balding at 20 ape LOL
Marx analyzed class while assuming womens unpaid labor and sexual access
Feminism doesnt need marxist approval to be material or real
Women exist outside male theory
Feminism isnt derived from marx
Thats exactly why it cantbe dismissed by him either stupid
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>>83428303
that's cool, but it still turns out most of my white male acquaintances are successes, be it with women, jobs, or something else more niche
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>>83428397
let's go down the list of reasons why feminism isn't leftist

it is incompatible with marxism
it is fundamentally rights based, which makes it liberal
it has consistently opposed leftist movements like jacobinism for over 200 years
i don't like it
>Feminism doesnt need marxist approval to be material or real
i never said it wasn't real, i said it wasn't leftist you illiterate dolt. feminism is, to my eternal disgust, real.
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>>83427858
>guilty
Rejecting someone is not a crime.
No one owes you love aside from your mom.
They are not guilty, you are just entitled.
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>>83428426
Holy low iq, can you not process what you read?
Marxism centers class between men feminism centers sex based domination
Radical feminists arent asking to be admitted into leftism
We are pointing out that male movements left or right routinely exclude womens reality
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>>83427858
I don't know a single woman who has not been abused in some way. Rape and murder are just the worst ways. Many of them have had to hit a dude in the balls, been grabbed in the street, molested by a family member (and complained to mom and nothing has happened and the guy is still around for christmas), etc.
But robots don't get pussy so they cope by calling OP psyops or a liar or whatever.
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>>83428454
yeah, dumbass, i know and i also know you're incapable of understanding my point.
>We are pointing out that male movements left or right routinely exclude womens reality
and why the fuck should anyone care about that considering you're a massive piece of shit and your entire ideology is centered on you being a massive piece of shit that men should help or care about for some inexplicable reason
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>>83428471
>why should anyone care?
Because women are half the human population, and societies collapse when their exploitation is treated as irrelevant
Men dont need to like women to depend on them
They already do for birth, care, social reproduction, emotional labor, and basic continuity
Stop having such a massive ego when you are quite literally useless idiot
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>>83428466
Men are literally so disgusting its abhorrent
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>>83428491
what if society does collapse, why would that be bad?
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>>83427752
>Man is literally ON HIS KNEES begging for sex, or love
>Gets rejected
>Foid thinks this is not on the same level as rape
Jesus Christ women are heartless
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>>83428491
>Because women are half the human population, and societies collapse when their exploitation is treated as irrelevant
other way around, sweetheart.
>They already do for birth, care, social reproduction, emotional labor, and basic continuity
you could say men depend on cattle or chickens and it would be more meaningful. at least they're edible and don't argue with you or talk about shoes all the time
>Stop having such a massive ego when you are quite literally useless idiot
i'm not useless though, i'm probably useless to you because i don't want to be useful to you.
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>>83427752
Very true. Men don't understand that hating them is the same as defending yourself from a virus.
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>>83428466
Claims of being raped don't hold much weight after you spent the past decade claiming literally everything is rape.
All women are liars.
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>>83428247
poor bait or you are legimately retarded.
>you were socialized
lol. lmao even. you will never get how it feels to be out of society.
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>>83428501
Society exists for men so go figure. It is men who chronically lack basic life skills and are glued to their computer and chicken tendies.

Only those that have countryside grandmas will survive. They will teach their daughters everything necessary for life.
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>>83427827
Do you actually use the word cyberbully unironically
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>>83428508
No. Societies destabilize when women withdraw reproduction and care because exploitation stops being worth it.
In Japan population collapsed, ghost towns, elder care crisis, government panic
South Korea, Lowest fertility rate on earth.
Women openly say marriage and motherhood benefit men and the state, not them.
Result? demographic emergency, desperate incentives, still no babies
In Italy/ Southern Europe
Women stop reproducing under unpaid labor and economic precarity.
Results were aging population, shrinking workforce, reliance on migrant labor.
You compared women to cattle.
States dont panic when cattle refuse to reproduce.
They panic when women do because women are the reproductive base of society unlike you men who are completely and utterly useless
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>>83428529
>It is men who chronically lack basic life skills and are glued to their computer and chicken tendies.
You're isolating a specific minority of men like myself who don't even talk to women anymore because they do nothing but artful dodging or straight up lying.
>Society exists for men so go figure
society exists for normies in relationshits

your picture of a collapsed society doesn't seem so bad?
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>>83428500
Women harass and abuse even other women for competition and pettiness. If not having sex wasn't a big deal women could close their legs and prevent most abortions. They wouldn't see being sexually restricted or limited as abusive or oppressive.
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>>83428529
>Society exists for men so go figure.
Either bait or you will be one of those 50 year old women whose apartment complex gets overrun by Guatemalans and start making tiktok videos as to why we need to restore young men's faith in society.

Either way, I just hope I'll live long enough to see you eat shit and suffer with no way out of it, that's really all I want.
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>>83428554
>No. Societies destabilize when women withdraw reproduction and care because exploitation stops being worth it.
>In Japan population collapsed, ghost towns, elder care crisis, government panic
japan has an average fertility rate for asia and a developed economy. ghost towns are due more to urbanisation, elder care crisis again advanced economy
>South Korea, Lowest fertility rate on earth.
more due to economic conditions for all the poors.

neither of those countries are outliers for confucian asian cultures anyway-singapore is around the same, china's the same, everyone wants to be singapore.
>In Italy/ Southern Europe
italy and spain are, again, down to their historical relative poverty to western europe. actually i think italy is doing fantastic other than corruption.
>Results were aging population, shrinking workforce, reliance on migrant labor.
again, not unique in the context of being western nations with advanced economies. these young population places with high birthrates are mostly african or arab, are you suggesting that women aren't exploited under islamists or something?
>States dont panic when cattle refuse to reproduce.
states love to panic and they also love to import migrants anyway because it increases the supply of labour which depresses wages and increases the value of property. also i'm very certain they would panic if all their cattle started dying, maybe you're too young to remember swine flu and foot and mouth.
>They panic when women do because women are the reproductive base of society unlike you men who are completely and utterly useless
this is pseudo-leftist drivel. they can just import poors from the third world ad infinitum, and even then, the historical populations of western countries have been far lower than they are currently. there is no demographic crisis-there might be a social security or pensions crisis but nothing more than that.
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>>83428572
Women attacking women is a result of patriarchy pitting them against each other
Also abortions exist because women carry the consequences while men avoid them
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>>83428572
Nope, they do not abuse eachother. Men would love to think so but they are stupid
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>>83427752
>>83428212
>>83428293
>>83428366
>>83428466
>>83428500
>>83428516
>>83428554
All this poorly done cope spam and women still complain about a pay gap caused by working less hours and less dangerous jobs, still suck at spending and saving money and still do pic related.
>B-But not all women
But you think 3 percent of men doing wrong is enough to cry about the rest. Womp womp.
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>>83428607
Low fertility isnt about culture or poverty alone
Its about women withdrawing from systems that demand everything and return little
You can deny the leverage, but states clearly dont
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>>83428613
Its more like 78% of men being evil
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>>83428608
No women attacking other women is them not being all good and blaming patriarchy is saying they can't take responsibility for their own actions despite not all women doing this under "patriarchy".
>>83428611
Women complain about their mothers and other women being cunts to them all the time. Touch grass.
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>>83428620
>blah blah blah men are the reason I borrowed 6 figures for college and now spend $5000/month I don't have on clothing and jewelry
Get your finances together foid.
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>>83428554
Everything you said is 100% correct.
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playing the victim is a lot of fun is why
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>>83428613
>WAAAH WOMEN DONT COMPLIMENT ME WAAAH WOMEN DONT WANNA SEX ME
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>>83428620
Little wade there got more ass from women than 78 percent of other men who haven't even slapped a bitch around. Women love evil men, especially if he's got fame or money.
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>>83428619
and point is, who cares. even actual strike action, the supposed ultimate weapon of the proleteriat according to rosa luxembourg (who you obviously don't know about), was completely destroyed by offshoring production to east asia and mass migration. there is also the key point that states do not care about having a shrinking population, which isn't even what's happening-it's just that populations are getting older, so the social security bill goes up. the unions weren't a threat, so why the fuck would you be?
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>>83428623
Women can do harm
Patriarchy explains why certain harms are common and rewarded
Acknowledging structure doesnt erase agency it contextualizes it
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>>83428630
is it so bizarre that people want to feel valued and loved? why are you lampooning this sentiment?
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>>83428333
Mens clothes
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>>83428630
>WAAAH WOMEN ARE SO OPPRESSED THEY CHOOSE TO FUCK MEN WHO KILL THEM OVER ONES WHO HURT THEIR FEELINGS ONLINE WAAAAH
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feels good man, the re educators will never catch up
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>>83428636
Whether or not unions or strikes can fight capitalism, the system still relies on exploiting womens unpaid labor like raising children, caregiving, domestic work to prop up profits and social reproduction. Population aging isnt just an economic issue its a gendered one, because women are the ones carrying the burden of sustaining the workforce and society for free but u are just incapable of understanding this
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>>83428623
>Women complain about their mothers and other women being cunts to them all the time
Lol, they don't. Women do complain about men tho, cause they are monsters
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>>83428646
>WAHHHH IM SO USELESS AND INCAPABLE OF ANYTHING SO I PROJECT THAT ONTO WOMEN BEFORE THEY CAN SUGGEST ANYTHING WAHHHH
What a crybaby lol ur pathetic
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>>83428658
are you even a woman surrounded by men?
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>>83428637
Women do do harm and blaming patriarchy or men in charge is just cope when outside of places like work it hardly matters in the west. They don't answer to men at home, they do the opposite of what said men want all the time with little to no consequences. But muh patriarchy is why they're still choosing to be cunts sure thing. Try not being such a stupid bitch of a man with your spam.
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>>83428665
>WAAAAH I'M CRYING SO HARD I PROJECT MY TEARS ONTO MEN
You're literally a 2 year old toddler
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>>83428658
Yes, this. Men keep trying to pit women against each other in their fantasies its genuinely so degenerative
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>>83428658
>Lol, they don't
OH NO NO NO
https://youtu.be/WrEbfr8nRT4?si=NXIVZjW05gXDJ5Zs
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>>83428675
We didn't just give you technology, AND math, AND philosophy, AND civilization, we also fought against the men who commit the rapes. Literally if you aren't down on your hands and knees begging men for forgiveness, you are going to hell and burning there for all eternity.
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>>83428667
>moid finds a way to erase how power operates socially and economically
Literally didnt even finish reading allat bc of how stupid you sound
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>>83428691
>Loser larper faggot male pretends women are children who can't be held responsible for their poor choices
Yas kween pop that bussy
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>>83428691
>moid finds a way to erase how power operates socially and economically
90% of men have literally zero power lol. If your government forces you to march to your death, against your will, you are by definition powerless.
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>>83428669
>WAHHHH THE M-M-ALE LONELINESS EPIDEMIC WAHHHHH
You moids need to be more lonely
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>>83428657
>Whether or not unions or strikes can fight capitalism
my point was about the hypothetical organised removal of women's reproduction and its effect on populations. i said that it would not work because states do not care about a shrinking population, populations have been historically a lot lower than they are now and populations wouldn't even shrink anyway, they'd age. again, what your image is showing is an aging population, not a declining one.
>the system still relies on exploiting womens unpaid labor like raising children, caregiving, domestic work to prop up profits and social reproduction.
ok? do you honestly think that if all that labour was withdrawn society would collapse, instead of states just doing the obvious thing and importing poors from the third world to do that shit for starvation wages or just ignoring it altogether?
>Population aging isnt just an economic issue its a gendered one, because women are the ones carrying the burden of sustaining the workforce and society for free but u are just incapable of understanding this
so what? the proletariat was exploited for around one hundred years and what happened was states just found ways to work around that, through offshoring. if you "withdrew your unpaid labour", in childcare or whatever, what makes you so sure states wouldn't easily find a way to work around that?
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>>83428707
He says as a loser male trooning out on 4chins
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>>83428707
>posts an example of female privilege
>thinks this is an own against men
Yeah man I know gynocentrism overvalues moms and grandmas while undervaluing dads and grandfathers. It's called matriarchy, what else is new?
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>>83428720
nah it's a fat chick, presumably from lolcow
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>>83428702
Im a woman why are you coping so hard
Stop crying in my thread moid
>>83428704
Power isnt about who feels strong its about who the structures favor, and those structures are built to benefit men as a class at womens expense
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>>83428729
The only cope is you pretending women don't choose to be cunts and it's the fault of men in charge even though women abuse their power while in charge to the point they fuck underage boys in school constantly and have their daughters cutting contact with them for years as soon as they're able to.
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>>83428707
>Women are treated better than men
>>83428729
>This system is only at women's expense chud
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>>83428719
Youre missing the point if you focus on whether the state can replace womens labor. The issue isnt that society would collapse its that womens bodies and work are treated as disposable resources. Offshoring, importing cheap labor, or ignoring care work doesnt erase the fact that women are the ones doing it, unpaid, while the system benefits. Exploitation doesnt disappear just because the state finds workarounds it just shifts the burden, and women remain the ones forced to carry it
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>>83427752
Meanwhile, women:

Men haven't changed much. Women are just going batshit crazy. OP's pic is a wonderful example of all the made up and curated nonsense women are constantly being fed in order to keep them political and angry. It's unnatural. Meanwhile men mostly want out of it all and want just to live their lives, unless they're in south Korea.
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>>83428748
>>83428720
Yawn another cope
You moids with ur low iqs think any woman speaking out is a male
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>>83428729
>Power isnt about who feels strong its about who the structures favor, and those structures are built to benefit men as a class at womens expense
Everything in society benefits rich men first, then women second, then poor men dead last. 90% of homeless people are male. So there is no "male class," males are all on different levels of the class totem pole
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>>83428779
> its that womens bodies and work are treated as disposable resources.
but they wouldn't be treated as disposable resources if they weren't doing any work. those women's bodies would be on par with all the NEETcels left behind after the factories closed down.
>Exploitation doesnt disappear just because the state finds workarounds it just shifts the burden, and women remain the ones forced to carry it
how would you be the ones forced to carry it if it was done by third worlders (even if they were women) who would be earning salaries 100x higher than they would in their home countries that would put them on par with doctors and lawyers?
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>>83428781
What you call curated nonsense is just information about real, lived oppression. Men wanting to opt out doesnt erase womens reality
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>>83428784
Women treating other women poorly without a man ordering them to is just fact. You're the ugly fatty coping about it. Look how tired you are despite not using your body or brain.
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>>83428788
>Everything in society benefits rich men first, then women second
most men arent wealthy but patriarchy gives all men structural advantages just for being male, while women are systematically devalued and exploited regardless of class
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>>83428796
What oppression are western women experiencing for you to complain so much?
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>>83428808
Women are valued more than men for having a pussy though. Women benefit from and take advantage of men giving them things or doing things for sex. Most spending is by women.
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>>83428797
Throwing a tantrum like a baby LOL stay mad
> Women treating other women poorly without a man ordering them to is just fact
Womens conflicts with each other arent evidence that patriarchy doesnt exist they are a product of it
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>>83428815
Western women may have formal rights, but they still face systemic oppression: gendered violence, harassment, and femicide still exist
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>>83428826
Facts aren't a tantrum you're just projecting. Patriarchy or men in charge obviously exists but it doesn't mean women aren't responsible for being cunts. They have a choice and they choose wrong. They also prefer patriarchy for profit and avoiding responsibility. That's why you have feminists still expecting men to pay for their shit or using the fact they're physically weaker to get out of trouble.
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>>83428825
Being treated like a sex object isnt power turning women into commodities while men keep real control over wealth, safety, and society
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>>83428851
Women surviving under patriarchy by any means isnt proof of moral failing its proof of your delusion and moral policing, men built this world to dominate and exploit us complaining that we use the few defenses available doesnt absolve you of the system you benefit from
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let's pump this shit up to the maximum erryone
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>>83428842
Women swing on men kids and other women, fuck underage boys in and out of schools, and reward/support men who kill a couple women in numbers rivaling the total homicides in that country (not just involving femicide which is even rarer) like here >>83428613
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oh of course fatty stopped replying to the only person making a coherent argument. pathetic, but expected.
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>>83428857
Being a sex object is how women get power in the form of money and favors. And besides women prioritizing money over the man or relationship they literally get off using detached twisted forms of mens genitals. Women also have men they only use for sexual pleasure. Get a grip.
>>83428869
It doesn't take shitting on other women to the point they despise you to survive muh patriarchy you're just a coping retard.
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>>83427752
th*nks f*r c*ns*ring *v*ry w*rd, I w**ld h*ve b**n tr*ggered *nd h*d * br**kd*wn *th*rw*s*
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>>83428342
But what if he consented?
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>>83428857
>Women aren't objects or prostitutes and I hate the heckin patriarchy but you better pay me for emotional labor and sitting near me
Ftfy
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>>83427752
lol. hoes mad
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>>83428916
What is the last word supposed to be?
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>>83428796
>Men wanting to opt out doesnt erase womens reality
Yeah it does. Women's reality is fake. It needs to be propped up with money and political force.

If men can simply opt out of women's reality, then why call it that?
>>83428842
>Western women may have formal rights, but they still face systemic oppression: gendered violence, harassment, and femicide still exist
>femcide
Kek. You mean murder? Or does you being a woman make your life inherently more valuable than mine?

And what do you mean systemic oppression? Which gender among young adults has 70% of the college degrees? What gender deals with more violent crime? You make shitty points
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>>83429165
You ask if my life is more valuable than yours, as if the question itself matters outside of the context of mens domination. Patriarchy doesnt measure value with degrees or who gets beaten up in the streets it measures value by who can take, control, and violate with impunity. Men may suffer violence, but women are systematically terrorized, and commodified in every part of life. Your numbers mean nothing when the law, culture, and morality itself are built on mens power over women
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>>83428874
Horrific acts by women do not erase patriarchy. Power is not measured by isolated crimes but by who controls law, culture, and violence. Men shape the world womens transgressions do not dismantle their systemic dominance idiot
>>83428898
Reducing women to who they sleep with or what they earn from men misses the point entirely. Patriarchy is not about isolated acts of survival or pleasure it is a system in which men define desire, law, and social worth, and women are constrained, commodified, and policed in every aspect of life.
>you're just a coping retard.
Your fantasies of women as predators do nothing to dismantle male power they only reveal how deeply it shapes your thinking lmao so embarrassing
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>>83427752
>Be 14 year old foid
>ignore all boys my age and date college guy instead
>Turn 26
>"eeeek why are all men so bad! I have nothing to do with this!"
>choose shallow good-for-nothing person to be with
>he beats you because you're retarded
>"eeeeek why are men so mean???"
>spent the last 50 years bitching about men
>wonder why they hate you
What makes women so unironically retarded?
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>>83429240
So many good options! lol you sound ignorant and retarded please stop shitposting
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>>83429226
>erm actually every incident of women being predatory or vile is completely isolated and is in no way reflective of a deep societal problem relating to womens actions or behaviors
>but every transgression done by a man is indicative of problems that all men are silently allowing to happen! it's actually all men! idiot! all men are bad! all women are perfect even when they literally kill their own children!"
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>>83429249
femcels stay malding nigga eat shit
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>>83429253
Femicide is the most extreme proof of patriarchy in action women are killed because they are women, not because of individual quarrels or chance. It is not random violence it is violence sanctioned by a culture that treats women as disposable
Either educate yourself or stop embarrassing yourself on the Internet yawn
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>>83429256
Yawn you sound like a porn addict cuck
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>>83429249
>erm, your personal experience of women has been one of treachery and manipulation? stop shitposting you're just ignorant. there is no possible way you've interacted with thousands of women that prove your inherent biases correct
>>83429261
>but-but women are killed too!
shut up retarded foid more men have been murdered over the course of history than women ever fucking will. you exist to get raped and make babies.
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women get high post count threads, it evens out
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>>83429268
>erm a woman was raped! that means all men bad!
you're genuinely retarded.
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>>83429268
porn is based. you're on 4chan and addicted to it. that's worse
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>>83429268
wait let me add on to this. is this person seriously insinuating that every single online view of a video of a horrific event was with the intent of sexual pleasure? how can you call somebody else a porn addict when you're worshiping foids who equate every single thing people do with some kind of sexual gratification.
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wasn't junko also tortured by girls or am i misremembering
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>>83429280
When Charles Manson convinced people to kill for him, he convinced women- not men- because they are more easily subverted from morality and are more spineless of a creature.
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>>83427752
>all women can do is pretend to be weak to get free stuff
>never have to work a day in their lives
>why are men so pathetic?
lol kys
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>>83429269
Your hatred proves the point women are not objects for men to despise, use, or kill, yet patriarchy trains men to think they are and you are its willing disciple
Quite embarassing to see a live example of it your opinions arent special, political, or a revolutionary
You are just expressing ordinary frustration mixed with male entitlement
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>>83429286
>because they are more easily subverted from morality and are more spineless of a creature.
Ok Heinrich Kramer
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i believe that's called Tomorrow, does it creep you out? me too
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>>83429275
>not all men!
>>83429278
Pornography is not harmless it is a multi-billion-dollar capitalist industry that teaches men to see women as commodities, encourages sexual aggression, and warps understanding of intimacy. Calling it based ignores the harm it does to both women and men by normalizing domination and exploitation as desire but you are incapable of understanding that
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>>83429292
>ordinary frustration is when women existentially spend decades of your history trying to convince you that your ancestry has built a system fundamentally wrong and try to dismantle it- but in the process vote for people who let those same terrorists and rapists into your country. then they complain about men- when in reality it is the stupid minorities they keep voting to have in their town.
>pointing out this obvious logical fallacy is "hatred" against women
>pointing out mens suffering is much more grandiose in the scheme of history is "hatred"
>erm- actually your opinions arent special
thats because people who aren't retarded foids mostly agree that you terminally online schizophrenics have stupid opinions
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>>83429303
this thread is not harmless either but you continue it
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>>83429303
>>not all men!
Yeah I'm sure the hundreds of thousands of women who commit infanticide are actually heckin justified and that means not all women are bad
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>>83427752
The reason nobody is sympathetic is because, when you call Chad not texting you back after he pumps and dumps you rape, and repeatedly throw your pussy at the most blatant douchebags that are obviously gonna beat your ass, then people kinda stop taking you seriously. As always, women seethe at the lowest-status dudes that probably haven't even talked to a woman in years in order to feel better about their own choices and lack of decision-making skills.
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>>83429289
Your view isnt reality its a fantasy invented to justify male entitlement patriarchy constrains, commodifies, and polices women at every turn. The idea that men are owed anything because of their gender is the real pathetic delusion here
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>>83429303
tell your retarded foid sisters to stop selling their bodies if you care so much idiot. nobody is putting a gun to your head and saying the only way to survive is whipping your tits out for a camera. foids choose to expose themselves because they don't want to work a real job and think that online pornography is a get-rich quick scheme
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>>83429305
You are not critiquing women lmao you are projecting fear. Patriarchy is not a conspiracy invented by women online it is a system that organizes law, culture, and violence to benefit men. Pointing out systemic oppression is not hatred your claim that mens suffering in history somehow cancels womens oppression is a desperate attempt to ignore reality. Blaming women for societal problems you dont like is the very ideology that keeps patriarchy alive
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>>83429268
>8 million men
Would you care to disclose the ethnic background of these awful "men", ma'am?
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>>83429320
Your mockery proves the point honestly patriarchy forces women to sell what little they can, and you call it choice because YOU refuse to see the system that traps them
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>>83429327
kyriarchy*
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>>83429322
>projecting fear
I'm not particularly afraid of anything. Female voting statistics have proven to be a genuinely bad thing for our modern culture. Women, in every single hobby, group chat, and leading role, have been less effective and a net negative for the culture of our world. You are physiologically incapable of building anything meaningful, so you sap everything away that men build for themselves and claim that "patriarchy" is why you are too weak to do it yourself.
>>83429327
>forces
put the fries in the bag stupid nigger
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>>83429315
My views have been tested, and it always turns out to be true. Always. Not sometimes, ALWAYS.
> The idea that men are owed anything because of their gender is the real pathetic delusion here
If we don't breed humanity dies. You can put off procreation as long as you want, but all you do is kill all of us. There are no winners, women are just too dumb so we're all gonna die.
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>>83429310
>moid compares rare, horrific acts with the reality of patriarchal oppression.
The fact that some women commit atrocities does not erase the system in which men dominate, exploit, and control womens lives no matter how you pretend like it does not. Oppression is structural, not a tally of individual crimes
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>>83429336
the fact that some men commit atrocities does not erase the system in which women lie, cheat, steal, and control mens lives no matter how you pretend like it does not. oppresion is structural, and women have treated men like their personal coin-purse for the entirety of history
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>>83428675
God, it cant happen soon enough I swear, sharia in Europe, sharia in America. Women are cattle and should be treated as such. YOU NEED TO EXPERIENCE TRUE OPPRESSION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, because clearly you have no concept of it
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do the moids have large talons?
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>>83429327
>oh nooo im too lazy to get a job, better go get men to pay to see my naked body...
>WHAT? YOU WANT TO SEE MY TITS? IM SO OPPRESSED
why are women so genuinely retarded
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>>83429332
What you are expressing is not evidence or reason it is the doctrine of male supremacy. You erase womens labor, history, and creativity so you can imagine yourselves as sole creators and women as parasites. That lie is essential to patriarchy if women are declared incapable by nature, then their exclusion, exploitation, and silencing can be justified. Your contempt is not proof of womens inferiority it is proof of how deeply invested you are in dominance
A system that requires women to be imagined as parasites is a system terrified of their humanity just like you
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>>83429351
>Women voting for stupid shit so they can get raped by muslims is the doctrine of male supremacy
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>>83429240
If a 14 year old dates someone from college, they are being groomed and in fact it is moids fault he exploited her cluelessness when as an adult he should have known better.
Crazy how much men choose to avoid any accountability in this life. If you exploit someones stupidity YOU are the bad guy. Being stupid due to lacking life experiences is normal and not an offense or life defining quality.
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Why do you guys keep responding to the retarded cocksleeve? It will never argue in good faith or change its mind. It will just use your replies as fuel to double down even harder because it clearly only wants to see their biases confirmed. Just tell it to kill itself and move on.
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>>83428247
terrible b8
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>>83429327
Your ideas were sold to you by men you stupid bitch. Feminism was created by men. lol
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>>83429368
>if a 14 year old doesn't listen to all her friends saying that shes being stupid and ignoring all the males in her age range, it's entirely the moids fault because women have never expressed a meaningful desire to exploit older men ever
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>>83429339
>women have treated men like their personal coin-purse for the entirety of history
You reverse reality to protect male supremacy. Women have never controlled law or wealth they have survived under systems built and enforced by men. Your story depends on erasing power so you dont have to answer for it just say you cant take accountability retard
>>83429342
Holy edgelord
What you call true oppression is simply the wish to dominate without any restraint. Men have always revealed patriarchy this way by declaring women animals, property, cattle. I dont need to live under your violence to recognize it I recognize it because men have announced it like this for centuries
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>>83429382
I thought feminism was created by a jewish woman
>>83429391
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fuck yea. now we're talkin kirk
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>>83429314
You rewrite womens violation as their moral failure so men never have to answer for their behavior, blame women for male cruelty, then mock them for being hurt by it. Consent does not disappear because you despise the woman, and violence does not become imaginary because it inconveniences your worldview
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>>83429393
>I thought feminism was created by a jewish woman
No. Betty Friedan showed up much later.The modern feminism as we know it today started off as a marketing campaign led by Edward Bernays who based his work on Sigmund Freud's findings on the female psyche. Sigmund Freud was his uncle.
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>>83429391
You are reversing reality to protect female inadequacy. Women have never designed or built mega-projects that shaped human innovation because they are categorically retarded in comparison to the potential of men. Every single modern device, invention, and tool you can think of has been designed by a man, because men fundamentally are less risk-averse. There has never been a single influential female politician, nor any female politician who's ever been a net positive on the society they controlled. The reason women get raped is because they do stupid things like frequent slums in bikinis, or do drugs with drug dealers. Then they literally kill their children by beating their skulls in.
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>>83429388
Men of this age are abrasive and not interested in romance and her "friends" would support her anyways because kids think adult stuff is cool. It's not children's job to police each other. It is the job of adults. And a college dude is adult and should bear the responsibility of adulthood.
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>>83429204
You see it from the wrong end: it's not that men are stronk and powerful, it is the fact that women are so so WEAK. Physically frail, insecure, neurotic - psychologically fragile. Your issue is with women, not men.
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>>83429421
yeah so you should be wondering why these bitches mothers don't stop them from fucking adult men
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>>83429382
>>83429407
Bernays used PR tactics to tap into cultural ideas of liberation and sell products he did not create modern feminism at ALL
Educate yourselves, how can you moids just be so uneducated but have such a huge ego all the time
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>>83429268
Or, maybe they all wanted to see the spectacle and horror of it, this foid assumes that 8M people will instantly start jerking it, lmaoo
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>>83429430
>create marketing campaign that mind poisons a generation of women into believing they are mighty oppressed despite having literally the entire world given to them for free with no work involved beyond child-rearing
>errmmm actually he contributed nothing lol everything was made by a jewish woman who i adore
women are so retarded
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>>83429418
You must reduce women to idiots and animals because your world depends on it. If women are human, then the violence done to them is indefensible if they are cattle, it becomes natural. Men did not prove superiority by building civilization they enforced it by law, by force, by exclusion, and by terror. Rape is not caused by womens lives it is caused by mens power. The lie of female inferiority is not a fact of nature it is the justification for domination
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>>83429430
>thinks I merely mean Bernays alone
I said that's where it started, it was the exploitation of penis envy. All women have an inferiority complex and it was exploited for financial and political gain. And it worked. And it still works because women are very easy to manipulate.
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>>83429445
'modern' feminism is not really the feminism from the 10s or when he was alive. women don't need to be suffragettes anymore anyway
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>>83429444
You must reduce men to violent and barbaric because your world depends on it. If men are human, then the oppression and manipulation done to them is indefensible. If they are cattle, it becomes natural. Women did prove inferiority by not building civilization, they lacked the ability to enforce law by force, choosing instead to use sex for subversion. Rape is caused by women's lack of ability to avoid strange men (muslims and niggers). The truth of male superiority is that it is a fact of nature as every single species of mammal has stronger males. Whatever justification you think is being argued is literally just a fact of life that you should get over.

dumb bitch is salty her brother got stronger than her after puberty i guess
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>>83429448
The suffragetes were already replaced by that time as most women just wanted to do things men did like smoke. Marketers took advantage of women's insecurities and their desire to match up with men. And by luring them away from men they became sitting ducks for ideological subversion. Without a man's guidance a woman is lost. And that's why it's more popular than ever since most women are without a man.
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>>83429437
You call feminism a marketing campaign because you must deny reality. Women were not given the world for free. For centuries we were barred from owning property, barred from education, barred from the vote, barred from professions, barred from safety. Long before Bernays sold cigarettes, women were organizing for property rights, wages, bodily safety, and political voice you are just plainly ignorant
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>>83429458
You make men gods and women animals so that oppression can be explained away. Rape is not a womans fault, strength is not proof of virtue, and biology is not justification period
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>>83429401
Ok, keep getting beat up and raped by Chad then, not my problem lmao, I'm sure he'll stick around this time.
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it's a rightoid multiplying antifoid sentiment to groom unaware UAUs
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>>83429472
>we were barred from owning property, barred from education, barred from the vote, barred from professions, barred from safety
Yes. Because you're inferior beings that will always be overpowered by the superior sex. But the superior sex didn't keep you from those things to oppress you. Not at all, it was to protect you from the harsh reality of life because men love women.
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>>83429423
Declaring women weak makes male violence and domination seem natural and necessary. Womens bodies, emotions, and lives are not proof of inferiority they are the evidence of exclusion, coercion, and systemic control. Your anger is not with weakness, it is with the power men have taken by law, by force, and by culture
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>>83428293
GOD I WISH THAT WERE ME too bad I was born with morals alas more sister and mom and daughter (my fav) and niece and etc for everyone else.
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>>83429499
You definitely consider yourself to be a nice guy dont you lmfao
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>>83429501
You call oppression protection
Men wrote the laws, enforced the rules, and stole the world, then told women it was for their own good
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>get easier jobs
>get easier classes
>have the government cause you to be over-represented in universities due to granting biased funding towards women over men
>have the government force large companies to create do-nothing positions so you can leech their funding
>have the government force men to pay a tax to black ebt welfare moms
>financially rape any man who you feel like marrying and divorcing
>get a free house because you got the ick
>under-represented in homelessness
>under-represented in suicide rates
>under-represented in war casualties and the military
>over-represented in media
>over-represented in marketing campaigns
>over-represented in porn and sexual 'careers'
tell me again how women are oppressed? it seems to me like men are the ones building everything you think you're entitled to.
>can't build a house
>can't do electrical work
>can't do masonry
>can't do carpentry
>can't do roofing, framing, rigging, or even truck driving
how are women oppressed when they purposefully leave the hard jobs to men and leech off of our efforts? if you want to own land and property so bad, build it yourself. women are given better loans, insurance rates, and even better and easier jobs on average. at the end of the day you think having to actually work is a system of oppression because you're fucking retarded and don't know the first thing about putting food on the table
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>>83429465
What even are you saying
The suffragists fought for freedom, rights, and survival, not cigarettes or trivial imitation
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>>83429531
>stole the world
The world is ours. You should stop seeing yourself as a competitor and more like an asset. A component that men need. You're not a separate species, you're part of the same species.
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>>83429532
>can't do plumbing
>can't do bricklaying
>terrible architects
>bad at mathematics and theoretical designs
>bad scientists
>steal other peoples work because muh wamen privilege
women are a societal underclass because they fundamentally take claim for mens efforts and everybody on the planet can see women are retarded mongoloids who provide nothing to society except a pussy to fuck and a warm bed at night. if you wanted this to be any different you'd ask "how can I improve the society that men built for me" instead of "how can I change this to make it worse for men and better for me"
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>>83429543
Suffragetes were terrorists. The only reason anyone let them do it was BECAUSE they were women.
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There hasn't ever been a time in human history where women weren't granted
>a house they didn't build
>laws and protections from other tribes/nations they didn't create
>food they didn't farm
and most importantly
>money they didn't earn
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Caca wee wizz
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>>83429544
No. Women are not here to serve, support, or complete men. We are full human beings with our own agency, desires, and autonomy. Reducing women to assets perpetuates the very system of domination we fight against
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>>83429226
Patriarchy/men in positions of power isn't an excuse for women being cunts and doesn't change the fact they were allowed their matriarchy or turn at having power over others and still failed at it miserably by abusing that power. Crying about men benefiting more from patriarchy while woman are paid more and protected from consequences of bad behavior or crying about men objectifying women when women do the same to men and themselves for superficial profit just makes you look stupid.
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>>83429532
>>83429546
This is not an argument at all just a display of hatred and fear. Women are not the property of men, and our value is not measured by our usefulness to them. To reduce women to sex, domestic labor, or supposed incompetence is the very ideology that has justified centuries of violence and oppression. Women contribute, create, and think just as fully as men, but patriarchy denies them recognition. The real question is not how women can serve men, but how society can be structured to allow women their full humanity
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>>83429566
Men have their own agencies and desires. You have simply fallen victim to the notion that yours are more important. You've historically proven you cannot fulfill your agencies, but men can. That's why men dominate most fields, because men tend to be more ruthless when it comes to accomplishing their goals.
>>83429580
>erm i'm going to ignore everything you said and repeat for the millionth time that yolu're just projecting hatred and fear!
this is how i know you're a stupid foid. repeating the same talking points while ignoring the clear logical fallacy that you haven't actually earned the right to call anything hatred or fear
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>>83429566
>Women are not here to serve, support, or complete men
They actually are unless you can manage by yourself without help which you can't. Everyone relies on each other.
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>>83429579
>doesn't change the fact they were allowed their matriarchy or turn at having power over others and still failed at it miserably by abusing that power
There has never been a true matriarchy anywhere comparable to the patriarchy any woman in power has been forced to operate within a male defined system. Isolated abuses of authority by women are cited as proof of failure while the centuries long, systemic abuse by men is dismissed or normalized
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>>83429605
women are too weak to enforce any matriarchal system. weak bodied, weak willed.
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>>83429596
History does not prove women incapable it proves the structures of patriarchy deliberately blocked women from full participation. To twist systemic oppression into a judgment of innate ability just proves that you lack intelligence or reasoning
To dismiss critique because it is reiterated is to deny the patterns of harm that necessitate the repetition in the first place the reality of systemic abuse exists independently of personal permission
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>>83429615
Yeah ignore every other point i make lmfao stupid moids cant comprehend things anymore
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>>83429640
>full participation
the majority of people aren't wealthy elites, anonina
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>>83429547
>moid thinks women fighting for basic human rights as terrorists
How stupid can you be bro
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>>83429605
>It wasn't true matriarchy
Nothing but cope. If they couldn't handle what power they were given over their own and others children or the men they married no one has any reason to care about seeing what you consider women "truly" being in charge would look like. If they can't take responsibility and blame men even when they're not around to make decisions for them they don't deserve even more power.
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>>83429646
Women said your body my choice when it came to taking money from their ex husbands so it's not like they disagree with the idea in general just with it being used on them specifically.
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I dont even understand what rape is anymore, it used to have a clear definition bjt now women will call literally a man being close to them rape.
No wonder men don't go outside anymore, you are called rapist by just mearly talking to woman lmao.
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>>83429566
>women are not here to serve
We want to fuck you not carry around our drinks. Everything men do is to make YOUR life better. That's why we let you commit suicide and kill us all. Because love is a complicated thing.

>>83429656
>fighting for rights
Nobody truly has rights, neither do men. We didn't keep you from working in the coalmines because we wanted you to miss out on all the fun. We did it to protect your frail and beautiful bodies.
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holy shit now she's coming after santa
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>>83429659
Sayinf women cant handle power or dont deserve it because they allegedly failed in constrained domestic or historical roles is to argue in bad faith. Women have never had systemic authority comparable to men EVER they have been restricted, surveilled, punished, and denied resources at every turn
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>>83429686
My body, my choice is about bodily autonomy, not selective privilege
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>>83429688
Rape was bastardized as feminism/female supremacy was allowed to fester in populations and people otherwise got dumber. Since feminism was at it's core about man hating and spite with only equality and fairness for all being used as a skin suit it only makes sense they would be redefining definitions as it benefits them in the moment.
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>>83429689
A moids argument to any feminist statement
>objectification and gendered power fantasies
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>>83429757
>unironically says 'moid'
>complains about objectification and gendered power fantasies
If you women didn't champion double standards you wouldn't have any standards at all.
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>>83429656
They are very stupid.. moidlings from this thread have no good arguments. They are completely destroyd and have nothing to smart to say
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>>83429689
Men just hurt women. Only reason men have ruled is because of their larger size and violence. Guns even this out
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>>83429747
>>83429688
This argument is built entirely on misrepresentation and zero logic Feminism has never been about man hating radical feminists are not the enemy of men they are their only true allies. We know that beneath the layers of patriarchal conditioning, men possess the capacity for thought, feeling, and decency. The violence, cruelty, and domination that patriarchy celebrates are not the measure of mens humanity they are the chains patriarchy forces upon it. To fight patriarchy is to give men a chance to reclaim their own humanity, just as it is to demand women reclaim theirs
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>>83429732
It's not allegedly when even women hate their guts and blaming the patriarchy doesn't cut it >>83428686 or again they choose to chase underage meat while on the job of technically the ones with the meat. Nothing but cope from you.
>>83429744
And women disregarding men's bodily autonomy and right to choose so they can get money from them shows women only care about consent if it's for women. Threatening someone with prison or death to pay you isn't much different than threatening a woman the same to take her pussy. Because you only value women and hate men you don't see the issue with forcing men to pay women while complaining about other women getting raped a century ago.
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>>83429544
This. We need foids for hot sex and babies, that is valuable to us. Be happy.
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>>83429795
Feminism is absolutely about man hating, it's all a reaction to men in general allegedly doing womankind wrong. This is why it's at the point women are choosing a violent animal known for mauling people over a random man based on a minority of men who rape and kill. Women and feminists in practice don't believe in equality or not generalizing, they still expect men they show open hatred for to pay for their things or risk their life defending them from other strangers.
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>>83429798
>or again they choose to chase underage meat while on the job of teaching* the ones with the meat
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>>83429789
Guns only work if you use them right but women are shooting themselves in the foot.
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>>83428206
>>83428321
>>83428466
It's really interesting how sexual assaulters are like less than 1% (5%, if being generous) of the human population yet somehow every woman has dated one.
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>>83429834
Pointing out centuries of male dominated structures and harm is not man-hating it is naming reality stop acting like such a fucking victim
Acknowledging risk is not irrational hatred it is survival strategy in a society where male violence is normalized
Feminism critiques structural privilege and does not obligate men to individual acts of service. Any expectation of accountability or responsibility is a critique of systemic power, not a personal entitlement based on hatred
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>>83429757
>considers reality to be offensive
This is why you're screwed. You refuse to accept reality so the white race is just doomed. Too bad. lol

>>83429789
>men hurt women
No they don't. Women are hurting the race by not having kids. Do you know how bad things are gonna be when we're all old and nobody can take over?
>men are only superior because they're superior and women can only win by stealing their inventions
Even then you'll still fail. You're just inferior in every. Single. Way.

>>83429810
Exactly. But they prefer being childless hags who'll die bitter and alone. Pretty tragic.
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>>83429865
Crying about centuries of men in charge and supposed harm they did while ignoring or justifying women doing the same thing or worse once given power just makes you look stupid. It's not rational to choose a wild bear over a random man it's just hysteria. Women can't even be bothered to visit bears often much less live around them as they do men to see actual evidence that it's safer for them.
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I dont understand how feminists both claim they won and are in charge now, and at the same time they are oppressed by the patriarchy,.. They just defeated?
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>>83429907
It changes with their hormones at the time
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>>83429882
Lol, moid is trying to form a thought
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>>83429882
Mfw men are so predictable
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>>83429891
>rational to choose a wild bear
At least the bear just eats you unlike the typical man who can be assumed to rape, torture and then murder you
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>>83428554
>Women openly say marriage and motherhood benefit men and the state, not them.
Women are so retarded you could give them 1 million dollars and they would forget about it eventually and unironically ask "what have you ever done for me?!?"

So when women say "marriage and motherhood benefits men and the state" they completely forget all the instances of how the state has taken mens tax money and redistributed it to women, or how the state implements affirmative action and DEI to benefit women. But how DARE men and the state ask anything of women.

Women forget that the only reason they aren't constantly under threat of everyone they ever cared about being murdered and themselves being reduced to rape slaves is because men tried their best to slaughter all the barbarians and warmongers who behaved that way.
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>>83429927
Women do all of what you listed just slightly altered you ugly loser tranny
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>>83429930
Everything you listed that "men" do is not enought to makeup for how much marriage hurts women. Single women die happy and live longer. Having a child completely ruins a womans body and men take no care of the kid.
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>>83429204
>You ask if my life is more valuable than yours, as if the question itself matters outside of the context of mens domination.
Yeah. It matters in the realm of gender equality. People's lives should be equally valuable.
>Patriarchy doesnt measure value with degrees or who gets beaten up in the streets it measures value by who can take, control, and violate with impunity.
No, that's just capitalism eating itself without enough regulation. Women in command do the same exact thing to make ends meet. Business has never been personal.
>Men may suffer violence, but women are systematically terrorized, and commodified in every part of life.
You really suppose the violence men face isn't systemic?

But more importantly, how come you see being commodified as a bad thing. That's like being rich and complaining that people only like you for your money. I wanna be commodified. Women's value gets to be inherent, and they get to complain it's inherent, while we're fine with just abandoning men the moment anything goes wrong for them since they can't work because their leg is broken or their mom died or something.
>Your numbers mean nothing when the law, culture, and morality itself are built on mens power over women
It's not, though. It's built on men's power over men. Feminism only looks for the bad that happened to women as a result of patriarchy. It doesn't look at the estranged men of history left to die, work to death, or be murdered in war. Largely, law, culture, and morality, has been more empowering for women than it ever was for men. This was whenever riches became only things a few men had, which was most of history. Men like women. They don't like to share with other men.
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>>83429929
The bears have left women disfigured for life and killed them. A small minority of men do the rape torture and killing. And again bears do this without most women living closely with them. Imagine a woman trying to scream at a bear because she had her period or remembered her le sad childhood. It would be a blood bath which is why despite all the bitching women refuse to be around bears much if at all.
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>>83429973
>But I chose you over those evil oppressive men with my superior feminist logic
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>>83429506
>Declaring women weak makes male violence and domination seem natural and necessary. Womens bodies, emotions, and lives are not proof of inferiority they are the evidence of exclusion, coercion, and systemic control. Your anger is not with weakness, it is with the power men have taken by law, by force, and by culture
I agree with this, actually. There's nothing special about males dominating. The reason it was good for women was because men commodified women and actually wanted them. Women in power do not do the same to men because feminism has made no effort to intigrate men into the "feminine" roll. There is no effort to tame men, just to put them onto the streets and keep them homeless or barely making ends meet and still feeling sorry for the women who get to be at peace in their warm home provided to them. Men are not commodities for women, and as such when women have all the power society itself falls apart and people die of neglect.
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>>83429927
>lists things I didn't do
Women are predictable. That's why you fell for all the psyops. lol
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>>83429920
>has no comeback
Of course not. You people truly are NPC's aren't you? lol
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>>83429346
I don't understand a word you just said
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>>83430058
because you're an old male farmer
https://youtu.be/RAtoMSjOQ1A?si=dtlP2ewHWhOdrJcE
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>>83429371
literally this. OP is clearly motivated by emotions and will defend women until its last breath, regardless of what factoids are brought up. just ignore, let the thread die, and move on.
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>>83429956
>Everything you listed that "men" do is not enought to makeup for how much marriage hurts women.
Women marry Chad and he cheats on her = men bad
Women marry non-Chad = men bad (because he has LE BAD GENES0

>Single women die happy and live longer
No they often die regretting not having kids. Better than reproducing with a nice beta male though, right?

>Having a child completely ruins a womans body
No ti doesn't and even if it did, wah wah.

>men take no care of the kid
Except working and being the primary breadwinner for the household, being responsible for handling disputes and defending the children (something women physically can't do), etc.
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>>83427752
feminism feminizes men. most men have no idea how cucked they actually are. women will not be happy until men stop caring whether or not women are happy.
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>>83429323
It's pajeets but the tranny won't tell you that
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>>83429863
Yeah, because every of those 1% sa was totally reported, retard.
Also notice how the thread is about how peace of shit men are and still being an asshole with raped people
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>>83429973
>>83429401
>You rewrite womens violation as their moral failure so men never have to answer for their behavior, blame women for male cruelty, then mock them for being hurt by it
You rewrite women's sluttyness as the man's moral failure so women never have to answer for their behavior.
>Consent does not disappear because you despise the woman, and violence does not become imaginary because it inconveniences your worldview
Neither does any of this become real because it conveniences yours.
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>>83430768
They honestly don't report because they know they're at fault. They're out here sexting and leading on men decades older than themselves while still in highschool.
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>>83428688
forgiveness for what? Not having sex with you? Sorry, but im not a whore
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>men commit most of the violent crime
Women aren't violent not because they're too virtuous. But because they can't. They're too weak, so they emotionally rape instead of physically rape. Look at the rates in lesbian relationships compared to gay relationships. Women aren't non-violent. But that's too inconvenient for you.

Men are 99% of arresting officers in cases about violent men too. But that's too inconvenient for you.
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>>83430878
Picking a bear over a man does not make sense because bears still maul and kill women for nothing. Shut your stupid fat gay ass up already man.
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don't you have a fucking job or something? get a life europeen.
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>>83427752
these are online extremists. most people don't hate the other gender. they are just annoyed, confused, and have been hurt by them. it's not healthy or fair to compare extremes and project that onto everyone in the world.
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>>83431131
No, she doesn't. She just spams the same threads and samefags them over and over again. She's also trying to make up for being gone this entire week after her mom filed an involuntary commitment on her and she had to spend a few days in the psych ward.
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aim for the top lady
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>>83431113
>Picking a bear over a man does not make sense because bears still maul and kill women for nothing. Shut your stupid fat gay ass up already man.
I think you gave out the wrong (you)
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>>83433258
It does my bad I was busy
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>>83431879
Is she actually a lolcow not even a mother could love?
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>Why are men professional victims? So pathetic
why am i being grouped with sexhaving pyschos? this is what irritates me. i am grouped in with people i have nothing to do with. it's this hostility and honestly, misandry, that i run into everywhere that really irks me. shame for being a man! shame for being white! fuck off.
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>>83428675
I commit 95% of rapes and 80% of violent crimes.
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actual phoneposting tiktok child thread
please fuck off
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>>83429524
I consider myself a rapist, however, the only reason I do this is out of necessity - women require it. What I want is for them to simp and beg me like women do for men, but that is not the way of things and so demonstrations of force are required.
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>>83428206
>Most of my girlfriends unironically were raped
same bro, most of my gfs were raped shortly after they met me
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>>83433846
Another victim complex retard so pathetic kek
>>83429994
>moid doesnt understand hypothetical situations
Holy low iq
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>>83427858
It is not that deep. If something like that upsets you, you are just a soft Onions pussy.
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>>83431113
> bears still maul and kill women for nothing
So do men?
Moids are genuinely so stupid
Bear related deaths of women in the US is very close to zero in most years and extremely rare historically
Women killed by men in the US each year Hundreds to over a thousand, based on homicide and intimate partner homicide data
If you actually researched things instead of yapping like a retarded incel maybe ur parents would love you
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>>83429971
You ask whether our lives are equally valuable as though value exists apart from power. It does not. Value is enforced. It is written into whose bodies can be entered, used, violated, and sold, and whose cannot.
Patriarchy is not capitalism malfunctioning. Capitalism is patriarchy organized. Women who exercise power do so by adopting male supremacy, not escaping it
Men suffer under patriarchy, but not as men. They are punished for failing it. Women are punished for being women. Men are not raped, prostituted, and terrorized because of their sex. Women are
To be commodified is not to be valued. A commodity has no consent. It exists to be consumed. Women are granted worth only insofar as we are useful sexually, reproductively, emotionally and discarded when that usefulness ends. That is not inherent value it is annihilation
Law, culture, and morality are built on male power struggles with women as the ground condition. Men fight men over ownership
Men liking women has never saved us Desire is not justice Love has always lived comfortably beside rape Patriarchy is a political system of sexual domination, and it is defended most loudly by those who claim it harms them most
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>>83431360
Calling misogyny extremism is how u pretend it isnt normal. Hatred isnt required entitlement, indifference, and silence do the work just fine. This isnt projection. Its pattern recognition. Patriarchy survives precisely because people like you insist its just misunderstanding instead of power
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>>83431879
Idk who you are talking about this is my first time posting on here, you sound sped
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>>83427752
I had my dick ripped apart as a newborn, your shit is all hypotheticals that happen to a tiny minority of women.
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>>83427752
I don't hate women, and most people don't hate women. There are a small amount of political extremists who do, and for some reason it's socially acceptable to superimpose these beliefs onto every man in the world. Misandry is extremely socially acceptable, while a comparable level of misogyny is social suicide. Ironically, this is what makes people hate women. If you spend all your time treating men like villains, that's what they're going to become. Women become trapped in online echo chambers and manifest the reality they wish to avoid.



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