>>83428502
Man, the new captcha is annoying...
Could bearly post this thread.

fuck off chud, we both know you have your ironman thing anyway

ketamine tonight
but first
i sleep

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Caved and bought some phenibut. I should've just bought weed but I need to quit because I dont wanna be a lazy nigger anymore. Weed was my only friend though. Ill miss you weed.

>>83428890
Phenibut's not the worst. Just don't get hooked. Since my teeth are falling out, I can't get a hold of my dentist until Monday, and my friends wanna go out tonight I'm gonna try just doing phenibut and no drinking and just having a lot of water on hand.

>cold turkey off benzos again
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

I thought weed would make me too stupid to be unhappy, now I'm stupid and unhappy.

Happy friday. Probably gonna get beer, gas station D8 gummies, and sushi tonight.

>>83428760
Im jealous. One of the few things I will admit I miss in terms of drugs is ketamine and dissos other than nitrous.

It's alcohol tonight bros, tomorrow weed prolly

acid comedown
result of the trip: the usual, one step closer to the grave, mentally speaking. it seems that this drug won't help you until you fix something deeper within. i should have focused on trying to create something but using software is hard when you're tripping.
had a fantastic track to listen to all day though
i will now remind myself for the xth time that alcohol doesn't work on acid

>>83430698
>Probably gonna get beer, gas station D8 gummies, and sushi tonight
Sounds like a plan. Have a good Friday, anon.
Also, what do you mean by miss? Did you quit drugs? How so? Willingly?

finally out of the psych ward lets fucking go
what's a comfy dose of promethazine, i dont want a delirium tier dose

>>83428997
NTA.
>I'm gonna try just doing phenibut and no drinking and just having a lot of water on hand
Sounds like a nice night. Is it a challange to not drink when taking Phenibut? Like, does it mix so well it'd almost be a waste not to combo them?
The water plan is good. I like it.

>>83431423
fuck yeahh brother
I was sober for one day but fuck that shit, there ain't anything better than this anyways.

>>83428890
>Caved and bought some phenibut
Are you addicted? How long of a break did you have from it before today? Is it really addictive?
I've got Lyrica and am going to try it next week.
I'm aiming for a once a week sorta thing, depends on how it hits me and if I recognize addictive potential. Lyrica and Phenibut are both GABApentinoids so must be similar.
Should I worry about dependence?
How frequent is your Phenibut use?
What's your dosage?
Not a bad alternative to weed, as far as I can tell.
Most people say GABApentinoids are like weed, Alcohol, benzos, Opioids, and stims all at once in a pleasent mix. So you can't go wrong. That's, like, literally all the drugs in a single pill.
>I need to quit because I dont wanna be a lazy nigger anymore
Yeah, good. Weed is evil. It was never your friend! It was just using you for its evil purposes! Honestly though, if you have a laziness issue with weed, better to cut it off. It really changes your world view and you only really notice after returning to baseline days, at times months, after quitting. Were you a daily user?

ive been abusing my lyrica script for 2 years now, and have been able to take breaks easily. just don't take a standard dose daily because that's when you run into typical GABAnergic withdrawals, though not terrible

>>83429835
Goodluck, anon.
You got this! Hope the withdrawals would be short and easy.
Which benzo are you quitting?
How long have you been using?
What was your dose?
If you don't mind answering, that is.

>>83430388
lol fell for the weed meme

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>>83431295
>It's alcohol tonight bros
Have a nice night, anon.

>>83431392
Decided to just get gummies and no beer, had too much alcohol so far this month anyway. I mean miss because I dont buy shit from anyone anymore or know anyone who sells anything anymore and I never got into the DNM because I knew that if I ever did it would keep me addicted forever. These days I only use plant based stuff that I can get without all that extra hassle. Hope you have a good day today too fren.

If I take another edible immediately after the first one's effect more or less stop will it be weaker or stronger than if I took it on is's own?

>psych ginally agrees to up my adderall
>however have to take strattera
Is this a good or bad thing? Will it make the adderall act better?

>>83432003
it's good, you can try it and just not take it if you dont like t

>>83431987
>another edible immediately after
So just stacking more of the drug, yeah?
>weaker
Assuming your tolerance didn't instantly skyrocket somehow (like psychs do) then it's fine.
>stronger
Yeah, cuz there is more of the drug in your system at once.

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>>83431352
>it seems that this drug won't help you until you fix something deeper within
Try MDMA for that maybe? MDMA is a sure bet for a good time by its very nature of action and can help you uncover and deal with unresolved issues.
>one step closer to the grave, mentally speaking
It's usually the case with frequent LSD use.
It can also happen if you come to the trip from an unstable or bad place. Better to avoid LSD in this case, as it'll enhance the bad vibes and make them very unpleasent. But you seem to be looking for the experience more than a plain good trip anyway, correct me if I'm wrong.
>i should have focused on trying to create something but using software is hard when you're tripping
Software can be a bit too much (like developing a program or using software to make music etc.).
Maybe get some colored pencils and draw while tripping? It's very theraputic ime and better with some solid music playing.
Also, maybe do DIY stuff?
I manically walked at 2am for 30min all the way to my local hackerspace to handmake things on LSD many times. Having a hackerspace so close-by gave me lots of materials and options, YMMV.
Once made a 4 way holographic display. A small, portable, plastic version of picrel fit for phone screens.
Once wrapped a magnet in copper wire trying to make an electric-guitar pickup (the part of the guitar that generates a magnetic field and sends distruptions the strings make to it to the amplifier as musical notes, a sort of electromagnetic microphone).
Once I made a wooden Clipper lighter holder charm on a string necklace. Thinking back, operating the wood-workshop machinery on LSD wasn't the safest.
Gave it to a stoner girl in the end; she loved it.
>alcohol doesn't work on acid
Hmm. Never tried since the mix is uncommon, but good to know.
Interesting. I'd imagine the booze would counter-act the trip like any GABA drug and maybe make you somewhat more impulsive.
How much booze did you drink while on acid?

>>83431681
You could always find a plug on Telegram or DNMs, but maybe it's for the best you don't.
>Hope you have a good day today too fren
Thanks :).

>>83431423
>finally out of the psych ward
Nice! Enjoy your freedom, anon.
>what's a comfy dose of promethazine
Idk, but without Codeine or other Opioid to potentiate it's supposed to be kind of a lame high.
Maybe you know better than me, though.
Anyway, have fun!

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I'm baked as fuck and I managed to find a bunch of information on some shitty underage soundcloud rapper, like where he lives, what school he goes to, the phone number to his mom, this is the most thrilled I've ever been holy shit.
I won't post it since I have a moral compass, but I feel so powerful

>>83431639
Hmm. What's your dose, then?
How frequent is your use?
I'm going to try 300mg of Lyrica in a few days so any info about it would help.
How do you avoid withdrawals?

>>83432383
>It's usually the case with frequent LSD use.
what makes you say that? yes the use has been frequent
>How much booze did you drink while on acid?
enough for where i'd feel it usually, on acid it might as well be water. granted i haven't tried to get shitfaced but that seems like a very bad idea, especially not during the trip, i'm only talking during the late comedown hours where you just feel edgy and can't sleep

glad you were able to do all that. sounds like you used it many times
i should definitely try drawing next time.
i usually try to go for a walk out in the forest
most of the times i just end up writing my thoughts into notepad. haven't really done that this time either. i basically only listened to this one track all day. really uncreative use of the trip, but that's the story of my life, i can't ever get myself to start working on things when that's the only meaningful path i see out of this mess.

>>83432003
By doing quick research: Strattera is not a stimulant and can take 4 to 8 weeks of daily use to reach its full effect. Also, its effects go on for 24 hours once it starts to work. It's an SNRI and regulates norepinephrine in the brain to help focus and reduce ADHD symptoms. It has no recreational value and may have unpleasent side-effects, being an SNRI. The thing is that to try it out you commit to daily use for 4-8 weeks, so it can take a long time to figure out whether you like it or not. You can just not take it and be sure. If you suffer from ADHD, though, it may help. It's your choice what goes in your body. If the Adderall is enough, I don't see a reason to use such a niche drug for added effect and risk side-effects, but if you think you might benefit from it, go ahead and take it! It's not as sucky as SSRI/SNRI antidepressants are as far as I see, with way less side-effects.

>>83432679
do you have autism?
what timezone are you in?

>>83432552
>dose and frequency
900-1200mg every 4-5 days
>any info
it's not a very relaxing drug, rather i believe it to be more of a social drug. makes you more talkative, lowers your social inhibition. might also give you minor twitches, but that's usually only with higher doses. the comedown is pretty nice. combining it with alcohol makes it more a typical anxiolytic, which i would recommend once you get used to the drug.
>withdrawals
don't do pregab every day, take breaks depending on your dosage. 300mg probably can only be done once a week, 600mg 5 days, 900mg 4, 1200 3. take intermittent 2 week breaks, and you should be good. it's hard to get pregab withdrawals

>>83432491
Fuck it. Dont wanna get sucked in to having easy access to things like C or K (some of the few things I would still do or want to buy if they were right in front of me to obtain). Just popped 66mg of delta 8 gummies on a full stomach after dinner. Happy friday night.

>>83431428
No, nothing like that, it's just that they're both really similar and will potentiate hard and it's easy to pass out just on a few drinks. I'm just used to drinking and I've never had to explain to others why I'm not drinking anymore. And even though I'm fat I still wanna try with women so I don't really wanna admit "yeah I'm not drinking because Tuesday morning I was brushing my teeth and a chunk of one fell out."

I know it's in the literal sense "baby's first drug" but holy shit ever since going off of SSRIs (terrible decision to get on them in the first place I am aware) I crave sugar like a motherfucker. A few days ago I ate a pound of sugar in Christmas sweets that I made in a single day. The comedown was horrible and I feel like shit still.

>>83433113
>baby's first drug
The conceptualization of drugs in many people's minds would be better if they thought about them like sugar (and vice versa). The same concept of temptation applies similarly to them.
>unnecessary for survival
>consumed for pleasure
>unhealthy if uncontrolled
>safe if consumed carefully
The big difference being in the time to kill (a term I'm borrowing from vidya) which describes the time it would take to be fatally dangerous. Also dw, for that reason I mentioned here I think discussion about the temptation of sugar fits in very well to /drugfeel/ imo.

I can't even think about sugar right now without the massive cavities in my teeth hurting.

>>83432554
>what makes you say that?
From personal experience and anecdotal testimonies of anons ITT. Frequent use takes a bigger and bigger toll on the mind and will lead to bad experiences overall when on it and sober.
It just how LSD works. It's best to take it once one or two weeks or maybe a month to be sure.
>i haven't tried to get shitfaced but that seems like a very bad idea
Sure thing. Getting fucked on Alcohol while tripping sounds like a bad and confusing time.
>i can't ever get myself to start working on things when that's the only meaningful path i see out of this mess
Don't feel bad for it, anon. Activities you planned beforehand will seem different while tripping and you may not feel like doing any of it at all.
That's very common. It happens to me, too.

Writing into notepad is good for introspection and should help you to make sense of mental issues by neatly sorting them out in form of readable written words.

Definitely draw next time!
Just put in a few lines and go from there.
You never know what you might create!
I drew in a notebook as a form of expressive art therapy years ago when I needed an output.
It's very much like a heatsink for the subconscious: letting all those accumulated unseen thoughts and feelings drain away and flow out on paper in colorful ways leaves you more finely-tuned and well-adjusted than when you started ime.

And as for that "mess" you want a path out of- I'm not a mind-reader and can't say for certain, but now that you're sobering up, consider the option that the mess is an LSD illusion that's putting a lot of attention on a minor thing that you overthink about. Maybe there's no mess and you're totally fine already doing what you do?

Sorry for the long post. Thanks for reading.

>>83432973
>Dont wanna get sucked in to having easy access to things like C or K
Fair enough. That's a solid reason to avoid getting a plug. You must act the way that is best for you, and it seems like you know your limits and have the impulses you could fall for all mapped out.
>Just popped 66mg of delta 8 gummies
Have fun! I've heard Delta-9 THC is stronger, but may not be available in the gas station.
>Happy friday night
Happy Happy!

>>83432541
Reminds me of when I was surfing the darknet and found a file full of information on doxxed FBI agents, like full name, perants names, addresses of both, what school they went to, all sorts of phone numbers, and much more. Definitely felt like it was something not for my eyes and was exciting.

It was a good website, too. It had articles on private internet networks working on IPv7 or IPv8 that groups of geniuses use to communicate and require proprietary software to log into.
It also had articles about psychological warfare, and some supposedly unclassified secret CIA documents about hacker groups (called "Caravans") the CIA is tracking.

The site asked for a password in order to browse it, but the password was embeded in the source HTML code of the page.
Never found that site again as I got the link in the first place by randomly scrolling darknet pastebins, and I didn't save it anywhere.
Sure was an interesting one.

Also found a site with fake gore videos, kitten pictures, and a page full of jpegs of "rare pepes".
The personal passion projects you find a link for on some other nerd's site are the good part of the darknet. It was fun hopping from site to site.

I don't go on darknet adventures anymore, though.
I had my fill years ago, and I've accidently laid eyes on immoral pictures more times than I was comfortable with in my random site hopping.
It could be a sickeningly vile place sometimes.

>>83432776
>900-1200mg every 4-5 days
That seems like a lot, but it's a good breaktime to have.
>it's not a very relaxing drug, rather i believe it to be more of a social drug
I've heard of people who just get sleepy from it, and people who say its a combo of weed, Opioids, and stims. I don't know how it'll affect me, but I expect a classic GABAergic experience: a care-free, hazy, drunk feeling. Maybe some kind of stimulant-esque effects, but nothing like real stims.
>might also give you minor twitches
I've heard of sizure risk at higher doses. Could it be it?
>300mg probably can only be done once a week, 600mg 5 days, 900mg 4, 1200 3
How does the amount of time to wait is getting smaller as the dosage get higher? I don't understand.
>take intermittent 2 week breaks, and you should be good. it's hard to get pregab withdrawals
Got it.

Thanks for the information!
It surely is of use to me.

>>83432710
>do you have autism?
Not diagnosed, but I suspect I might be somewhere on the spectrum, hehe. That was just a little researched info I thought you could use.
>what timezone are you in?
UTC+2 I think. Why do you ask?

>>83433007
>they're both really similar and will potentiate hard and it's easy to pass out just on a few drinks
I see I see. I know they potentiate eachother, but didn't know you can blackout so easy.
>yeah I'm not drinking because Tuesday morning I was brushing my teeth and a chunk of one fell out
Damn. Can Alchohol even do that?!

Also, I believe in your rizz, anon.
Do have a go with as many women as you can. Remember it's a numbers game.
Some girl is bound to say yes, eventually.

>>83434096
Alcohol, sugar, etc. But the killer was that my mouth was dry all month. I'm pretty sure I've fucked up my nervous system by constantly blasting edibles then DXM and DPH every single weak. I dunno if my nervous system is damaged, or if I just have a cold, but I've had a dry mouth for a month and then the drinking and not brushing often enough killed me. I think most of these were places I got fillings before too so already weak. Fuck it, I'm asking for the gold fillings next time I go, I don't care how they look, I just need them to stay.

>>83433113
>since going off of SSRIs I crave sugar like a motherfucker
Didn't know that was a thing, interesting.
While in Amsterdam, I bought 6 Dunkin Doughnuts doughnuts every night and ate all of them during the munchies. I tought I might develop diabetes and spent more than 300$ on doughnuts alone throughout my whole stay. So I know how sugar hunger is like. You gotta be strong and moderate in your sugar consumption! It'll surely pass with time and you just need to wait.
>>83433359
>unnecessary for survival
Well, the reason sugar's sweetness is so tasty for us humans is that it's an indicator of a large amount of available energy, which IS required for survival, and therefore our bodies urge us to consume as much of it as possible before moving on, as it may not be available later (think seeing a fruit tree as an early human, the fruit might be rotten by the next time you come across it, so eat as much sweet fruit as possible while you can). Though sugar is a LOT of free energy and the majority of it isn't used, so most all of the time, it turnes to fat instead, in order to store the energy to be burned later; when food isn't around.
Of course it's damaging in high doses, but will literally take 2.5kg dose to kill you directly. It'll prolly kill you if you take a lot over a long period of time, eventually. Somehow.
Also, there's the risk of developing illness like diabetes when consuming a lot sugar at once.
Largely you're right, though I thought I could clearify some points.

drugs and mental illness board time

>>83434200
>But the killer was that my mouth was dry all month
Yes, a lack of saliva can directly cause rapid tooth decay by removing the mouth's natural defence against acidity and bacteria growth.
>I'm pretty sure I've fucked up my nervous system by constantly blasting edibles then DXM and DPH every single weak
I'm not informed on the matter, but you might've. It sounds unhealthy to do this often.
Though, I don't think nerve damage can cause dry mouth, but don't know for sure.
At least what fell wasn't original teeth but fillings.
Is gold known to be a sustainable material for fillings that stays longer? I'd imagine modern dentists got some synthetic high-tech filling material that is optimal for the job.

>>83434305
It's about the time the board emptys out of people and just a select few stay to post, if any. It's early after-noon to early evening in the USA and quite late for Europe-based anons. So people are either asleep, or still busy with daily stuff. In a few hours, some of the east-coast US folk, where it's later in the day, will trickle into the board. After them, it's usually the early waking EU folk at around 8-10am. And then the board will fall into another period of neglect until EU night posters and mid-day US posters show-up.
And repeat every Friday night forever.
I think that's accurate, at least it makes sense. Also possible that I'm talking out of my ass.

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>just found out kratom got a sales ban in my county
What the FUCK do I do

>>83435104
That sucks. Prohibition is a stupid policy.
Hope you can recover from this, anon.
Do you use Kratom a lot?

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I haven't been able to use ritalin for a week now since I'm on some other meds & I don't wanna fuck shit up. I feel so unproductive and aimless now, I just wanna tweak and hyperfixate on my autism shit.

>>83435668
Only every day for the past four years or so.
I've already been tapering for awhile now because I'm tired of spending money on it but the government telling me I can't really does wonders for my motivation.
Thankfully a few shady online vendors will still ship it to me so I'll enjoy that while it lasts

>>83435740
>Only every day for the past four years or so
Oh, man. It really is a hard hit then to have it banned all of a sudden. I feel you. Did no tolerance build up in four years? How'd you keep up?
>Thankfully a few shady online vendors will still ship it to me
I'm glad you have a workaround and are not ditched without any. Hope it'll last long enough for you to finish your taper issue free.

i've been smoking too much weed and messing up my progress with the gym for it ugh i think i'll stop smoking for a couple months

>>83435862
>Did no tolerance build up in four years?
Tolerance definitely built to the point I was just taking it whenever I felt like it throughout the day. Opted for capsules so I didn't have to choke down green sludge tea. Pretty sure I was on about 15g a day, give or take. I'm currently taking half of that with big pauses (6+ hours) in between doses.
Kratom kept me sane during the worst years of my life but it's a substance you gotta respect. Just hope the inevitable withdrawal isn't too hellish.

im fucking traumatise and i need something everyday to even make my life fonction. Couldn't buy weed in time. Any suggestion that can be found in your house?

>>83435876
>I was on about 15g a day
Wow, that's a lot!
>I'm currently taking half of that
Good. You should ask ChatGPT to write you a proper taper schedule and stick to it. 6 hours is definitely a start, but aim for a dose (or two, if you must. One morning and one at night) a day and move on to longer breaks from there. Until you can have a few days break withdrawals free, mostly free, or only needing a very little dose to get right. Then you know you've beat it.
>Just hope the inevitable withdrawal isn't too hellish
If you taper right and have a proper schedule you stick to, you should be able to avoid the worst if not most or all the withdrawals in theory.
I also hope the withdrawals would be short and easy. Though 15g is quite a lot so idk. Never delt with Kratom withdrawals myself.

is it true that mdma makes you feel terrible for days after taking it? i wanna avoid being a zombie while i have to go see family over christmas

I have acetaminophen, what would be a a "safe" dose. Not trying to overdose, just feel some thing.
I'm F around 60kg.

>>83435960
Not an expert so probably someone could reply to you better with like actual scientific terms. But my friend told me that when you takes some it like use all of your serotonin and when the effects are gone you get extra depress. If you are okay mentally, you should be fine but if you are depress, i wouldn't recommend. could be fatal. But yes you will feel like shit after but the degree of it depends on how you are presently.

>>83435955
>Though 15g is quite a lot
On erowid I've read about some people taking multiple 10g doses throughout the day, so I've used that to justify my own habit as not being so bad. Taking 30 capsules of anything is undeniably a lot, though. I've been gradually reducing how many capsules I take during each dose (currently 6>5>4 gonna try 6>4>3). The morning dose is always the best since it hits you on an empty stomach, usually just listen to tunes for 90 minutes during that. Will aim for morning dose and night dose, sounds like a good idea.

>>83435960
Worst I ever got was a hangover and an overall sense of apathy. Never felt overwhelming depression after a roll.

>>83436013
>could be fatal
as in kms?
i am down pretty low was hoping mdma might help

>>83436030
Yeah xd
In a way that if you are already really depressed it will make it x10 worse. So like I wouldn't recommend if you are suicidal

>>83436045
it's alright, i don't have the necessary material for it
maybe the gigadepression will make the normal depression more tolerable, how about that!

>>83436055
>maybe the gigadepression will make the normal depression more tolerable, how about that!
it could, just be careful anon, its christmas :c

>>83436064
ok anon... i'll do it after the festivities that way i won't be awkward if i get psychosis or somehow end up dead

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>>83436078
ofc! have fun anon and stay safe

>>83436084
>have fun anon and stay safe
thanks i'll try

>>83435960
I always used MDMA on low doses (40-60mg) sipped out of a cup of water for 30min until it was empty. The comeup was gentle as well as the comedown. I never felt like shit the next day. If anything, I experienced a nice after glow.

>>83436025
>currently 6>5>4 gonna try 6>4>3
That's a solid start. Keep it on the momentum.
>Will aim for morning dose and night dose, sounds like a good idea
Smart choice.
And remember, if you ever want to talk about it, you can always update the thread with your progression.

>>83436013
>I have acetaminophen, what would be a a "safe" dose
I think most an adult can take safely is 1g a day, but I don't think it has recreational value, anon.

Today's Meth dose was 250mg as opposed to 300mg I've been taking the last few week I dropped from 500mg. Not bad. I call it progress.

>>83436154
just took 4300mg
is it bad or not?

>>83436181
It is potentially fatal. 4g is very risky territory. You might need to visit the ER to get your stomach washed clean. It was a very stupid decision especially since it isn't psychoactive and won't provide a high. But I'm not a doctor. If you feel ANY adverse effects immediately seek medical help before it's too late.
Goodluck.

I remember when I had a friend that was getting fucked up on tylenol, good times
>>83436013
Do you not have ANYTHING better? I'm sure you have over the counter shit like dxm or even codeine if you look into it, why the fuck are you killing your liver with retard doses of acetaminophen?
and if you're trying to end yourself early, don't do it with tylenol, it ain't a fun way to go.

>>83436219
just called the poison hotline, said my dose isnt bad so i should be fine thanks anon!!

>>83436273
well i dont really know much. what is dxm/codeine?
they are already killing my liver with these bipolar meds anyway. but honestly, i just wanted something quick. i know i could have taken better with better dosage. Also have shrooms but im on a fast and couldn't think of a better way to take them so eh yea im a dumb tho, agreed

>>83431623
Not really I used to do it years ago but stopped because I was getting tired of the hangovers. Ive been told its extremely addictive but I never really had a problem with it. When I was doing it I did like 2.5g two or three times per week. honestly though lyrica and phenibut kinda feel the same if I remember correctly but lyrica is definitely better. If you have that you should just do that instead. The only thing that I dont like about lyrica though is that it lowers your seizure threshold so even though im not epileptic I would get anxious about that plus it just made me feel like a tweaker sometimes. Like occassional face / eye twitching and blurry vision.

>>83436289
In short: cough medicine that have recreational effects if you take them in large doses.
Though if you're taking mood stabilizers you should look into how they interact with other drugs so you don't hurt yourself.

>>83436303
alright thanks you!!

>>83432052
I took my first dose several hours ago. I'm already feeling some nausea and my mouth feels really dry. I have to take it since that is a condition of my psych increasing my adderall dose.

>>83432679
That is something she explained to me. She mentioned it'll level me out a bit. Her reasoning for it is that she doesn't want me taking adderall unless I really, really need it for say work, and it will help on days when I'm off from work. I tend to rely on the adderall to help get stuff done at home or to do any chores like getting groceries. She said this way, I'll still have a mild effect enough without developing tolerance as fast. It took me about six months to become tolerant to my current 20mg dose.

On the plus side, she did increase my baby sublingual klonopin dose to 1mg. Don't know why she did since the .5 is still working great even after 2 years for my panic attacks since I only take it when I do have one, which is only about once per week on average.

>>83433113
The only thing I experienced on them, along with the all SSRIs and mood stabilizers (except Lamictal), was just insane tinnitus and it agitated me more. Each one just amplified it, with the Abilify and Geodon being the peak. I think those gave it to me permanently, since now I have a constant ringing in my ear where I didn't before. It isn't anywhere as bad as it was and is very tolerable since I've been off of them. Like holy shit, it was so loud when I was on it. Even music didn't help at all.

My psych implemented a taper over weeks so I didn't experience any withdrawal other than the tinnitus going down in intensity.

>>83434299
>It'll surely pass with time and you just need to wait
I've been off of them for a year is the worst part.

>>83436181
feel anything ?

>>83436425
nah but i found keef in my grinder :ppp

>>83436441
yeah figured thats not rlly a psychoactive substance
there are a lot of common things that get u high if u know where to look... wont go into any more detail than that tho

>>83436453
why not, id take advice instead of destroying my tummy

>>83436457
because most of them come with risks or arent really fun
only otc thing is recommend is dxm, and if ur gonna do that u gotta make sure ur doing one without guafenisine or any other chemical in it. its like a dissociative like ketamine but with a bunch of side effects that come with it. it also has fairly different effects at different dosage ranges. i suggest reading up on it on psychonautwiki or a similar thing. again i dont recommend it but if u absolutely have to get high on something, thats what id go for.

>>83436484
thanks anon!! i will look into it but will most likely stick to weed! gn!!!

>>83436154
>I don't think it has recreational value
A very small part of it gets converted to a cannabinoid, so theoretically you can get high off it, but you are going to die if you take enough of it for that.
>>83436181
You should drink some alcohol to neutralize it. A bottle of vodka will be enough. :)

>>83436498
thats a safer bet good night

>>83436331
>She said this way, I'll still have a mild effect enough without developing tolerance as fast
She may have a point. Anyway seeing you already commited to the treatment, we'll just have to see how you feel in 4-8 weeks when it'll take its full effect.
>It took me about six months to become tolerant to my current 20mg dose
How tolerant? Not feeling it at all? Nothing lile a break to reset tolerance. You shoild be ontop of this shit especially when still on low theraputoc doses before it gets out of control. How frequent is your Adderall use?
>she did increase my baby sublingual klonopin dose to 1mg
I have 0.5mg script and abuse it once a week. I'd say it's good news but you only take it medically as needed anyway so it won't affect you too much.

>>83436291
2.5g every 2-3 days sounds like a lot. I'm going to start with 300mg once a week. I didn't know it had hangovers. Interesting. Thanks for the info! Hope you have a good time with the Phenibut.

>>83436289
>just called the poison hotline, said my dose isnt bad so i should be fine thanks anon!!
No problem. I just Googled the max doses for adults a couple of days ago so ot was fresh in my mind that 1g is the max recommended amount and 4g is risky. I was not trying to scare you or anything. Anyway, I'm glad that you are not in danger. It can't be good for your stomach/liver, though.

>>83436633
I'm completely tolerant to it. Feel absolutely nothing. The increase has helped a lot. I usually don't use it when I'm off, but will do so if it's like I mentioned: I need to get stuff done at home or outside of my home. Otherwise, I'm just completely lazy and cannot get anythign done since everything feels overwhelming. Just even getting a list together for stuff I need at the store is overwhelming. So, there's usually two days a week I don't use it since I only work four 12-hour shifts. I don't really like being off, but I do it for a usually two day tolerance break. I think this is why it was awhile before I developed the tolerance to 15mg.

I never developed the tolerance to the 0.5mg, and I even mentioned it. I still don't know why she increased it. She didn't mention it during my appointment yesterday and she even asked if 0.5mg was still working for me. I said it was perfectly fine. It helps every single time. I got to follow up in a month since she wants to check to see if the Strattera and the new Adderall dose is working. I'll ask her then. Still, it's a plus.

>>83436425
meh I feel something now :c
head ache, head/skin on fire... spinnnn
but it's okay ill play game on my phone and try to sleep!

>>83436701
you did scared me a little ;-;
but it's okay I'm a retard, that was a dumb decision, even tho I like it a little.. <.<

>>83436355
>I've been off of them for a year
Oh, man. I am stumped then. Maybe it's psycological and you got used to eating a lot of sugar? You should take a break for a couple of weeks and use sugar alternatives instead, like only drink coke zero, and see how you feel then. That's the best I can come up with.

"For a small percentage of people, discontinuation symptoms like cravings or mood changes can persist for several months or even up to a year"
-Google AI
It says that if you've used them for a long time, the cravimgs may last for a year. So there's still hope that it'll stop sooner rather than later.

Anyway, goodluck, anon.

>>83436711
>Otherwise, I'm just completely lazy and cannot get anythign done
You need to take long breaks and face reality sober, anon. You cannot be this dependent on Adderall for basic functions. It's unhealthy and would probably lead to physical dependence. Increasing the dosage instead of increasing the break period was not the thing to do. Especially when you're saying you've developed a full tolerance and need more to get the same effect. That's classic addiction right there.
Btw, what's your new dose?
>I do it for a usually two day tolerance break
Two days is not enough for an Amphetamine tbreak. By psychonautwiki, a week halfs your tolerance and two weeks usually reset it (it varies with frequency of use and dosage). So I'd say you should have a cicle of taking a week or two break and have a week where you do your routine dosing than another one or two weeks off it and repeat.
>I still don't know why she increased it
Hmm. Odd. Maybe she saw you're not abusing it so felt more comfortable with giving you more?
How does the sublingual stuff work? Is it just a tablet you let melt under your tongue? Does it have a taste? Also, I am sorry to hear about your struggles with anxiety and am glad you're properly equipped to deal with it.

>>83436741
>you did scared me a little
Sorry, was just saying what I knew, but could've been more tactful than "you're gonna die".
>even tho I like it a little
How's it feel like?

I've always wanted to try a stim. Are cigarettes a stim? Should I try smoking?

>>83437551
No
But caffeine is
Coffee's just not very recreational aside from the taste, if that.

>>83437656
>Coffee's just not very recreational aside from the taste, if that
Can I combine coffee with something that is recreational to enjoy the benefits of both?

ket is very much more addictive than weed, yes?
anon is about to use an actually addictive substance for the first time in his life
what could go wrong loool

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>>83437551
>Should I try smoking?
Definitely not. Cigs are bad for you and Nicotine will make you its bitch in time, which isn't pleasent- having your freedom held hostage by a drug, that is. But you should try Amphetamine (speed), Ritalin, or Adderall, if you can get a script, as they are easy beginner stims with low toxicity and good effects (though short-lasting for my taste).
>>83437683
>Can I combine coffee with something that is recreational to enjoy the benefits of both?
There was an anon ITT that went nuts about mixing caffeine (energy drinks) with weed. He said it was very euphoric and that they synergize awfully well together. So that's a good thing to try. Though, go for energy drinks instead of coffee as they would yield the best results. I recommend trying Gfuel as it is relatively cheap, sugar free, very tasty, ships fast, and has a high caffeine content (~150mg per serving), which will surely "get you there".

>>83437760
>ket is very much more addictive than weed
What? Not really.
Ketamine might be psychologically addictive )it is for me) but NMDA blockers ramp up tolerance very fast and tolerance only fades after a month at best so it's diminishing returns so at a certain point the only thing you're doing is hurting your kidneys.

On the other hand, weed is both psychologically and physiologically addictive. It's just that withdrawals aren't that bad for most people.

>>83437985
Unfortunately I can't handle energy drinks since they make my heart act up. Adderall is actually what I wanted to try, but it would be next to impossible for me to obtain. Same with speed since I'm not a Euro. Also can't touch weed anymore since it started making me feel like I was going insane.

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Woke up, started drinking again. Need a new delta8 vape just waiting for my paycheck to come in the mail. No other drugs because Im shitty effexor and none of them work/may give me serotonin syndrome so fuck it. I wish I had DXM...

>>83437760
Ket is an odd first big-boy drug to try. I'd go with MDMA first and branch out from there.
Also, Ketamine isn't very physically addictive, the danger is a slightly higher psychological dependence risk than weed's. So it you've got your mental faculties in order, addiction shouldn't be an issue. Sounds exciting, though. Be sure to be careful, dose low to start, and have lots of fun.

Did you research how to snort a drug properly? Before finding this thread, I thought snorting was a way to get the drug into the respiratory system, and that I should snort as hard as I can, but that was wrong. You should snort lightly as if normally breathing/smelling something and get it into your nasal mucosa (the soft, moist lining inside your nose) where it'll be absorbed into the circulatory system. But maybe you already know all of that.

I can't stomach snorting, though, the drip scares me as well as nasal damage; trying ket will have to wait until I get over myself, so not soon.

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Do you think it'd be dumb/weird to buy food from a restaurant even though I won't be eating it for several hours since I plan on getting high?

>>83437995
NTA.
>weed is both psychologically and physiologically addictive
I'm not disagreeing that weed is psychologically addictive (more than people care to admit), but I never heard it's physically addictive and have spread the word that it isn't. Though after a quick Google search I've found that yes, Cannabis is *technically* physically addictive and quitting can cause physical withdrawals symptoms though, they're so mild and easy to deal with that they might as well not exist.

>>83438271
I mean I just got off of being 24/7 on edibles and I wouldn't call it "easy," especially the insomnia. But yes, in general, it's very easy to get off of. Cannabinoid receptors, rather than being tied to a certain system, like dopamine or serotonin, are rather a sub-receptor in the body. Weed more or less acts on everything at once, which is why withdrawals aren't AS bad.

>>83438046
>Adderall is actually what I wanted to try, but it would be next to impossible for me to obtain
It's easy, just lie to a psychiatrist (or other doctor authorized to write an Adderall script) and claim to have ADHD symptoms. That's how I got my false ADHD diagnosis and Ritalin script. Though, if caffeine makes your heart act up, stims would also do that for sure.
>Same with speed since I'm not a Euro
I'm not European and I can get speed easily. Just find a plug on Telegram or DNMs if domestic vendors exist.
>can't touch weed anymore since it started making me feel like I was going insane
Same here. Weed is a vile and evil drug, but works for some people.

Well, I'm stumped. You can't have a recreational dose of caffeine, can't use weed, and have problems with finding stims. Idk what else to tell you.

I hope you'll have a chance to try stims sometime in the future, they're really great, and ditch the cigs idea; it is REALLY not worth it and that comes from tons of experience.

>>83436898
The problem is that everything is overwhelming, even work. I cannot stay focused at all. My brain cannot even read anything that's not interesting since it just quickly goes over the words and it forgets what I just read within a few seconds. Then there's not to mention the amount of energy I have. I used to workout so damn much. Taking it for the first time at 5mg was literally a miracle. People take something as reading a book for granted. I seriously cried.

I was on it for half a year before I developed the tolerance issue. It was upped to 10mg, with the same pattern. It was 15mg and I'm now at 20mg. It seems it always lasts for 6 months. I cannot take time off from work just to do a tolerance break for that long. My psych suggested that I don't take it when I don't need to. It's why I go those two days without it. I'd like to, but I don't.

I've been on the 0.5mg sublingual klonopin for years now. It's just a mystery to me why she did it. I only found out when I picked it up from the pharmacy yesterday. I never noticed any taste since I place it under my tongue since it's the sublingual version. It dissolves in no time. I don't abuse my meds. If I want to do something like that, I just get weed or alcohol, which I very rarely use anyway.

>>83438091
>Woke up, started drinking again
Morning drunk is a good kind of drunk, I used to carry around a thermos with spiced wine I'd brew and sip from it morning to night, good times. Unless you have a problem, in which case I'd recommend drinking moderately or staying away outright. Alchohol is a shitty drug to have a taste for.
>Need a new delta8 vape
Why not Delta-9 THC? it is more potent, no?
Should be twice as strong as Delta-8 THC.
>No other drugs because Im shitty effexor
GABApentinoids are safe for you to use, so maybe look for a source for some. Ketamine is also safe. Life... finds a way.

>>83438222
Why would it be weird? You'll eat it eventually.
What are you on today, anon?

thinking of buying a dmt cart for the first time ever. never tried it ever and the strongest psychedelic i've done is acid. is it scary? do i just need to ride it out and will i turn out okay?

>>83438343
>I just got off of being 24/7 on edibles
That's a big step. For good, or just a break?
Why did you stop?
>especially the insomnia
Oh, yeah. Have experienced that. It's a real drag. Nowdays I have sleeping pills so it isn't as much of a problem.
>Cannabinoid receptors, rather than being tied to a certain system, like dopamine or serotonin, are rather a sub-receptor in the body. Weed more or less acts on everything at once, which is why withdrawals aren't AS bad
Hmm. Interesting. I quit cold-turkey after 8 months of 24/7 smoking bud and didn't have any withdrawals. It was like I've never smoked before.

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>>83438613
>What are you on today, anon?
Nothing yet, I'm waiting for my dxm to arrive.
It'll be my first time trying Hbr so I'm a little excited, even though I've already used dxm before.

>>83438717
Oh wait, looks like it already arrived. Nice.

>old boomers in family are dying this year
>They didn't piss away every bit of wealth some there's some to be passed down
>Not multimillions per person but potentially life changing amounts nonetheless
>Find out everyone in my family is a piece of shit as they all explode and expect me to pick sides
>They literally yell at grandparents about the will/trust etc
>I am the only one who is even willing to take care of the ACTUAL OLD PEOPLE who are dying instead of just bitching about money like some israeli demoralization shill
>Go to doctor for update, obviously things suck
>Get prescribed klonopin
>Fuckinghatebenzos.jpg
>Probably my only way to get through the end of this year without having a frustration stroke, though
Thanks for reading my blog.
How often can I take this stupid shit without having an issue? It's half a milligram. Certainly not every day. Every other day? Every three at most?
I just want to get through this shit, not acquire an addiction kek

>>83436713
did vro die...

Can someone please redpill me about the term eurospeed? What does it mean? That Europe is known to have good speed, or poor speed?

>>83438504
>The problem is that everything is overwhelming
>I cannot take time off from work just to do a tolerance break for that long
I understand, but stim addiction is no joke. You might have to work sober for a few days.
I know that for some people this drug is a literal life-saver, but you can not afford to be dependent on an addictive stimulant to do basic things.
>Taking it for the first time at 5mg was literally a miracle
>It was upped to 10mg, with the same pattern. It was 15mg and I'm now at 20mg
What you're describing is a classic path to addiction. I'm very surprised that your doctor chooses to feed your addiction and up the dosage instead of cutting you off. What'll happen after 20mg stop working? 25mg? And what then? 30mg? 40mg? You need to understand that it is not a sustainable solution, tolerance buildup leads to addiction, and that this behaviour is a red flag.

I know having serious ADHD is hard and might be debilitating, but you need to accept that you may need to be sober for a while, as uncomfortable as it may be. At least you don't redose (right?), which is another surefire way to get addicted.

I still recommend a week break and a week on it as a routine regiment of use; it's tolerance positive and mitigates addiction risk. But maybe at this point you don't really care about addiction and would rather be addicted but functional than not addicted but overwhelmed. That's unwise, but fair enough.

I must stress, I don't take your struggles lightly, and I really do understand where you're coming from. But I think stim addiction is as much of a serious issue and the way you're going, it's a real risk.

>It dissolves in no time
Interesting. I've never heard of sublingual Clonazepam before.

Thanks for reading. Sorry for the long post.
I don't mean to berate you or judge you or tell you what to do. I'm just concerned, is all.

>>83437760
IDK about MUCH more but it has more potential to be yes. Its not a huge risk, but you wanna be careful.

>>83438717
What do you mean waiting for it to arrive?
Don't you buy it at the phamacy?
Never tried DXM or any other OTC meds.
Cough syrup is hardly my cup of tea. I prefer real drugs. How much are you planning on taking?

>>83438780
>I am the only one who is even willing to take care of the ACTUAL OLD PEOPLE who are dying instead of just bitching about money like some israeli demoralization shill
I'm Israeli and took offence to that.
>How often can I take this stupid shit without having an issue?
As needed. If you feel the pressure is pushing down on you then take it. Otherwise, use it sparingly. Tolerance is a real issue. I take one big dose once a week with no problems.

>>83434299
>which IS required for survival
I know you are just discussing energy as a proxy for survival, but fwiw you actually don't need sugar to survive. Your body will form the carbohydrates your body needs even if you only consume protein and fat (hence keto diets). That's why I said it wasn't necessary for survival. Nonetheless you are correctly getting at how sugar is an incredibly dense source of energy (which is, indeed, very useful in a primitive environment).
>damaging in high doses [etc]
Yeah, I really just meant the long term destruction of obesity (which doesn't compare perfectly against fatal overdoses). I think that leads to the one point of interest that makes drugs uniquely dangerous which is the combination of temptation and lethality. Not many things have that combo. The closest I can think of is thrill-seeking, like sky diving or base jumping.

>>83437656
>Coffee's just not very recreational
Unless you drink a lot of it with no tolerance.

>>83438166
didn't know that thanks for tips.
why do you think ket is a bad drug to start with? from what i read i thought MDMA was more dangerous

>>83438714
Tolerance break, and I got laid off back in August, spent two months bumming around at home, and now I need a job and I think I'm going to try and apply for Stephen Millers' Special Paperwork Boys in Homeland Security, because it's work from home and apparently they're encouraging you to work slow to keep from actually having to process H1Bs, so right up my alley.

But it's still Homeland Security so I will get piss tested and it needs to be perfect. I'm 6 weeks clean now so when I finally hear back I'll take a cleanse drink and I think I should pass.

>>83439523
>didn't know that thanks for tips
No problem.
>why do you think ket is a bad drug to start with?
It's just that dissociatives are an odd drug to start with. Not exactly bad, just odd. MDMA is a sure bet of having a good time as opposed to ket, which could be unpredictable, disorienting, confusing, and not everyone likes dissociating.
Be sure to dose low at first.
>from what i read i thought MDMA was more dangerous
MDMA is perfectly safe taken once a month, in doses lower than 180mg, and if avoiding physical activity while on it. I recommend MDMA (only crystals, no xtc pills or some shit) as a first cause it's safe and most likely to give a good experience by its nature of action. Also when taken right, it is a very gentle, natural, and clean feeling high with minimal comedown.
Though MDMA IS physically addictive, unlike ket, it's easy to put down after one roll and wait a month before doing it again.
It's just plain fun.

>>83439891
alright i'll keep that in mind.
i've done plenty of LSD though i don't mean that i only ever did weed before. would that change your perspective?

>>83439545
>I'm going to try and apply for Stephen Millers' Special Paperwork Boys in Homeland Security
Don't you need connections to work in a gov job like the DHS?
>it's work from home and apparently they're encouraging you to work slow
Sounds comfy. Goodluck.
>it's still Homeland Security so I will get piss tested and it needs to be perfect
I hope you pass. 24/7 use of high dose edibles might take a few months to clear from your system, though. Weed is very slow to leave the body, even when stopping for weeks, it can still turn up in piss tests.
>I'm 6 weeks clean
And you still get insomnia? Damn.
How long have you been on edibles for 24/7?

>>83440033
Nah, this is just paper bitch stuff, low-level bureaucrat basically.

>how long
Basically about a year, minimum, also with weekly DXM and DPH use. I almost certainly have some kind of nervous system dysregulation, though I wouldn't be surprised if my kidneys are also slightly fucked up.

They say 3 months I think to clear from the system for weed and no one's gonna get back to me until after New Year's Day if we're being honest, so I think I should have both more time to be sober and a week-long purge drink course should clear me enough.

>>83439920
>i've done plenty of LSD though i don't mean that i only ever did weed before. would that change your perspective?
A bit, yes. Since LSD isn't addictive you didn't mention it. Makes sense.
LSD is still not a guaranteed good trip as MDMA is. I first did weed, then MDMA, then LSD and I regret doing LSD as young as 19/20 but also regret not doing MDMA earlier than 18 and would've been able to handle it perfectly well at 16. Bottom line, as far as drugs go, addictive or not, MDMA is the safest bet. Though, now knowing you've experience with drastic mental states like LSD trips it makes me believe in your ability to ace a low-mid dose Ketamine high as a beginner without a problem. So that's reassuring. Ketamine has a psychedelic side at certain doses, so I've heard.
Have a good time doing ket and, if you feel like it, report back with the experience.

>>83440235
>weekly DXM and DPH use
That can't be healthy.
>They say 3 months I think to clear from the system for weed
I've heard 1 month, too. Though looking at a year of daily usage it might take a while. 3 months sounds safe enough, though.

>>83440382
Probably not, which is why I've stopped DPH completely and stopping DXM both for tolerance reasons and to learn moderation. I'll feel okay again when I feel like I don't have to go to the bathroom twice, once to actually go and then another time to wipe after leakage happens.

>>83438806
nah chill lol im alive

>>83436921
kek its okay, it made me call the hotline to be sure and calmed the paranoia lol
>How's it feel like?
pretty much like i describe earlier; headache, skin/head ''on fire'', high heartbeat, virtigo. honestly not a good ''high'' more like a fever but im way to traumatise+dissociating so sadly it help me but i wouldn't dio this again.... on my way to go buy weed now xd
still have the headache too but it keep me "awake" so im okay with it

>>83440601
Doesn't sound like a good time, glad you're alright.
And it's good you contacted the hotline, better safe than sorry.

>>83440486
>I've stopped DPH completely and stopping DXM both for tolerance reasons and to learn moderation
A good idea.

Ever since I turned 20 I started getting really fucking terrible hangovers from DXM doses above 150 mg, it was my favorite disso so I'm bummed out.

on weed and alcohol rn. Rate my combo.

>>83441155
funny I recently stopped having alcohol hangovers. Weird how this stuff changes

>>83441238
getting crossfaded is pretty comfy when you're mixing tipsy with baked, 9/10, would be a 10 but you can't get it right every time.

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I love getting high and playing video games. Last week I got stoned as fuck and played through "sleep awake" it was absolutely incredible. It was probably like 6-7 hours long and it felt like watching 3 horror movies or being on a psychedelic drug trip. It's so crazy how immersive games are getting these days.

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I'm high as fuck, it's been like a month since the last time I did pregab, I feel wobbly now, sadly I lost the picture I liked to use for these posts, so I guess we'll be rollin with a revi screenshot

3g of shrooms for tonight so not expecting anything spectacular, but i wasnt trying to shoot into space either. thats what the week long tbreak from weed was for.
hope youre all doing alright this evening.

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i think i k holed
that was a crazy experience i dont even have words for

>>83443423
Depending on potency of shrooms and if you chew them really good on an empty stomach, 3g can be mind blowing.

>>83439203
That's easy for people to say when they haven't lost jobs due to it. I'd rather be dependent on it than go back to the life I was once at. It was fucking hell being jobless and depressed, losing job after job due to carelessness. Not being able to read instructions. Not being able to pass classes at college because I was easily distracted in lectures and couldn't read for the reasons I cited. Not having any money at all and parents who think I should just grow-up, stop being lazy, and hard knuckle everything like the boomers they are. That everything is just a handshake and that makes everything hunky-dory. Oh, and drink a lot of alcohol like my alcoholic family which an uncle passed away from because his liver gave out and an alcoholic cousin who asphyxiated because he drank too much, vomited, and choked on it when he was laying on his back passed out.

All the while the psych just force feeding me ssri's and mood stabilizers fir years with nothing but negative side effects which the tinnitus became permanent. The only reason I got the ADHD diagnosis was because my psych and therapist finally decided after years of no progress to send me for a neuropsych evaluation. It was then it determined I had ADHD, and the "depression" was just a symptom. The therapy topic for a long time was due to my resentments, pain, and suffering over this.

So yes, I'd rather go through the upping of dosage every 6 months than go through that hell again. I hope this Strattera works so I can further the time before tolerance. It cost me a lot, and created major issues like my anxiety that now feels permanent as well because I was anxious all the time which lead to my panic attacks.

>>83444350
Fair enough. I hope the Strattera will allow you to cut back on stim use.

Planned to take 300mg Lyrica as a first timer, ended up doing 750mg. Might report later about the experience.

>>83443577
how much did you take?
did you take it all at once?
do tell more if you like

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>>83445114
i took 380mg with no tolerance i felt nothing for 20 minutes then it went from 0-100 instantly i had music on i think? but didnt realize that until way later it almost felt like i fell asleep at first or something bc i remember not realizing what was going on then i started questioning what reality even was then i felt like i died or became part of the universe everything was white with a slight tint of green and pink (which are the color of the lights in my room) then went black with the same tints after a while i slowly came back and remembered who i was

the interesting thing to me was despite the fact that i had no concept of who i was, had no connection to my body, and didnt even realize i had a body there was still a strong concept of "me", as a sentient being or an "observer", it makes me think of rene descartes and how he was able to deny almost everything but could not deny he was thinking

picrel are the capsules i put the ketamine in

i also had severe difficulty piloting my body after coming back and threw up twice, also i was seeing and hearing everything twice at once like my eyes and ears werent merging everything into one layer

>>83445321
interesting, that is a large amount according to psychonautwiki which says that 70mg is a "normal dose" (but probably they mean snorted?)

380mg swallowed not snorted

>>83445334
yea psychonaut says like 300-450 is a heavy dose if u swallow it or something i also asked grok how much u need to khole and it said anything from 300-500 orally so i had no idea what would happen frankly i didnt expect it to be nearly this strong but oh well it was an interesting experience

first time ketanon here just snorted (gently as suggested) about 25mg
don't feel nothing yet it's been 5min

Redosed 150mg Lyrica after ~2 hours from the last dose.

>>83445407l
25mg is low. Now that you know a bit more, dose a little higher and learn your limits. I'd say try 50mg.

>>83445459
added 10mg
feels like i'm drunk now somehow
man i'm such a noob with powders i crushed the crystals in the baggie and now every time i take it out there's airborne ket and of course not all crystals are crushed yet so i have to do it anyway

>>83445482
Good, experiment with it and play with the dosage a little bit. Maybe use a flat tool to move the powder to avoid spreading it around? That's what I do with powders.

ok just added 25mg
going in boys

dunno what to think so far other than it's like being really drunk without the nausea
music feels flatter actually?

kinda boring desu and music does not sound better
tell me this shit gets better?

>>83445546
I'm assuming you took ketamine, dissos are a drug that grow on you, if you don't like K you can try dxm instead, it's more euphoric, but if you don't like that then you probably just don't like how dissos feel.
I like dissos because they're a shut-in version of psychedelics.

>>83445793
>shut-in version of psychedelics
how do you mean? i do psychedelics as well, K so far just feels like alcohol minus the bad things (do have some nausea though)

>>83445825
as in, you have to go outside to really enjoy psychs, while dissos are a "lay on your couch and close your eyes" experience.
and they're similar enough.

>>83445825
anyways, you can try combining weed with it if you find K on its own boring, or doing a fuck ton of K, your tolerance will never be that low again.

>>83445897
guess i didn't do enough to get anywhere near psychedelic
rip

>>83445930
Here's my advice on how to fix that
Eyeball a line, and prepare a hurl bucket.
It won't kill you if you're not like old and frail (and not mixing it with anything causing breathing suppression like opis, benzos, etc)

>>83445949
how long should i wait to do that? days? weeks?

dxm is shit compared to ket, the dxm hangover is so frustratng. feels like im a zombie when i wake up. 100mg is a good starting dose, but ket is best mixed with other drugs. alcohol and psychedelics are my personal favourite, but you can also just k-hole and listen to asmr. super euphoric.

>>83445949
okay
this is more interesting

Redosed another 150mg Lyrica, 4 hours after the last dose. Will give more info when it wears off.

>>83446628
Are you the anon that was going to take 300mg? If so, redosing 150mg won't do much. I'd recommend 600mg for a redose since your tolerance is already building up, and it builds up fast.

>>83446637
>Are you the anon that was going to take 300mg?
Yes, I am. I decided to take more for the "full experience". Thanks for the tip, I'll dose another 150mg then. I don't want to go crazy on it, 600mg seems like a lot. Does tolerance builds that fast?

>>83446778
Redosed 225mg.

>>83446778
Yeah, that's why I said you need to take very high doses if you're doing it frequently. Currently on 900mg but I was forced to take 300mg daily in the psych ward for a month. The withdrawals are very minimal, I do feel more anxious but it should fade.

>>83446861
>if you're doing it frequently.
I've only done it today. Is it like psychedelics tolerance?
>I was forced to take 300mg daily in the psych ward for a month
Damn. Hate psych wards.

I don't fucking understand why these threads never have any heroin discussion. Hell I rarely see meth being talked about on here. It's all whiny potheads and people on some stupid pharmaceuticals they've been prescribed. Can a fellow smackhead reply? I'm a former meth addict, and have now turned to heroin for about two years. IV use only. I feel like IV opi(oid/ate) addiction is seriously a league of its own after having tried basically everything under the sun. The only comparable addiction I can think of are to benzos and alcoholism. Your live your life tied to a ball and chain.

>>83447798
can you not just do meth again for 2 weeks for withdrawals? dont have it in your head that youre gonna get high, just try to do whatever you need to do for 2 weeks then it will all be more bearable

for about a week there was a new guy at the gas station who was legitimately ridiculous and embarrassing, clearly on meth, always trying to be like excessively helpful and working too hard (in a job that requires you to do hardly anything) like taking out the trash every hour and making friendly (fake friendly, cause you know hes high) customer service comments to people at the register. just a horrible humiliating display.
from everyone elses perspective he reduced himself to less than a person. from his own perspective, he just had a new job and maybe he looked a little off but it was ok.
I mean I have been there. but it really looks bad.

but like if youre seriously long term addicted, do you even get high anymore? to some extent youre living a sober life just staving off wd. I know thats not really correct but if you really havent gotten high in a while, maybe youre not too far out of normal reality.

alright ketanon reporting back
kinda don't wanna touch this drug anymore
did one decent dose in the afternoon and it got me to a point where i felt i had lost touch with reality for about 10 min. was kind of scary, a little bit. i feel like i was able to get some insight from it but i i don't really know what. need to think about it.
then i became nauseous for like an hour and ended up puking, thanks to that anon for suggesting a bucket

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>>83448990
having done everything from low doses to just k holing (>>83445321) i think a mid tier dose really is the most enjoyable. i like having mild dissociation where i can ignore my problems for a bit without the difficulty that comes with fundamentally leaving reality and the nausea that comes with high doses. i find ket more enjoyable to do alone than psychs, which are much more of a reflection of ur mental state, and doing them currently is just not a good idea for me

>>83449537
i just don't see the point of ket on lower doses (based on my limited experience with it today - just felt like alcohol nothing more) and i hate nausea so higher doses also won't come into question anymore
my mental is also fucked but i'll happily keep doing psychs. i fucking love LSD even if it always ends up pushing me toward self destruction

>>83449580
i havent done a low dose since i first tried it. did u try a mid dose? i never had any nausea on like a sub 75 dose snorted

>>83449613
in the morning i snorted about 60ish over the course of an hour (started small and kept adding over time), felt a bit of nausea
afternoon i did 70 in one go (which should be a mid dose?)
next time i'm on acid i'll try like 40

>>83449631
hmm yeah not sure in that case
worth noting that if u still had ket in ur system that 70 is gonna feel like more than 70
my friend said acid and k is a nice combo but i cant say myself

>>83432003
I take Strattera but I kinda hate it because it has the mildest effect on me and every time I stop and start using it again, the side effects are quite bad (though they tend to mellow out after the first 2-4 weeks). At first, you will feel dozy all the time and because it's a sNRI you will very likely get constipated as well. For me, the only possitive effect is giving me a clearer mind and maybe better focus. However, my motivation is non-existent and I feel quite apathetic. I can see how it can work with an stimulant thoughever, since the effects (good and bad) compliment each other nicely.

guys what is benadryl like?
I heard some stuff, i researched some stuff, i just wanna know any personal experiences if you have any.
thank you
one drug please :)

>>83436154
>1g a day
More like 1g every 8 hours. 3-4 g a day should not be a problem for a healthy adult.

Will ordering shrooms off the internet cure me of being an apathetic shut-in?

>>83450398
maybe
but maybe it will also make you wanna kys

>>83450176
benadryl is like so euphoric it's uncomfortable (dysphoria), and gravity is turned on 10x, vision goes blurry cause anti-histamine is a drying agent. and you get mild hallucinations like hearing people talk from the other room, or seeing lines on the wall.

>>83450444
I've never had suicidal ideation before. Can it manifest that desire or would it likely only magnify existing ideation?

>>83450511
i only ever did acid so not sure about shrooms, but it can, depending on your life situation and outlook.
just don't do over a prolonged period of time and it should be ok
first few months it put me in "life is good" land and then the more i did it the more it became "life is actually passing you by, your soul is now on fire, good luck" mode

>>83447798
I been on this thread for years now and shot opiates for years but now have been clean for years. People dont discuss smack much on here cause most of the world does not get smack anymore, just fent.

>year is 2025
>not using ultrapotent synthetic fentanyl analogues

>>83450459
hmm so like anxiety? this kinda sounds like being over over caffinated? but on the other hand, it should make you sleepy no?

>>83450726
Feeling blessed not to be. Shit is hell.

>>83445321
>>83445331
still feeling sick when i eat blehh

>>83450726
If I were to use something like those I'd be ultra paranoid about accidental doses. I'd need to have an entire section of a house dedicated to being a decontamination chamber, as well as using whatever suits they use in chip fabrication centers. Volumetric dosing itself seems easily doable, but the risk of accidentally getting something where it shouldn't be just freaks me out. Same applies to less risky dosages like single digit milligrams of benzos, imo.