the tragedy is he would have been a chad (pretty face, height is all you need) even without this nonsense and without nuking his fertility
I think he's doing this for clout and for his own insecurity and not for "getting girls"

>>83429519
He's trying to push the limits. He knows he doesn't "need" to do all this shit.

the funny part is people are legit interested in this guy's story and will follow him and give him promotions and stuff, but what does he even do?

>>83429549
He's primarily an entertainer, mostly unintentionally.

>>83429540
Women do not care about how buff you are. Only men respect that. The effort is wasted. Add to that that you can see that he's juicing, which is a negative to your SMV and looks. It's as if a woman got fake tits and it is all chopped up.

>>83429571
>Women do not care about how buff you are. Only men respect that. The effort is wasted.
You act like he looks like Mr. Olympia. Most women would prefer him to look like he does than to look like a hungry skeleton and the reason he roids is because he hates working out and steroids allow you to put in minimal effort to build and maintain muscle.
> juicing, which is a negative to your SMV
nobody actually cares about this except autistic natties. every muscular hollywood actor is on steroids.

Looks are precious, because they're innate. You cannot, significantly, change your face or your proportions. They are signifying the quality of your genes. That is the reason, why that that is not innate and that can be changed is not attractive to women.

Would not be surprised, if this guy is selling "supplements" or a diet program, an "academy" or a similar scam to his gullible fans.

>>83429540
pushing the limits of what,being a low IQ homo plebbitard who fell for the looksmaxxing meme?

>>83429609
> That is the reason, why that that is not innate and that can be changed is not attractive to women.
he is famously (supposedly) already scheduled for a double jaw surgery to get a gigachad jaw and says he is more than likely to get limb lengthening surgery despite already being 6'2. Many people don't believe he's telling the truth.
>Would not be surprised, if this guy is selling "supplements" or a diet program, an "academy" or a similar scam to his gullible fans.
nope

>>83429613
pushing the limits of making millennial boomers like you seethe

niggas would rather inject an entire pharmacy than admit they don't have good enough genes to be chad

>>83429637
His entire philosophy is that it doesn't matter if it's "natural" or not. He's right. Your viewpoint is ironically the autistic/delusional one.

>>83429604
>Most women would prefer him to look like he does than to look like a hungry skeleton
Who are you kidding, most young women want the twink look but you have to be tall and have a pretty boy face.
>minimal effort
He's listed a tedious amount of supplements that he's taking. If anything, going to gym and lifting is more easy-going and fun than excessively researching this medication, dosing it, talking to your doctors, scheduling it daily. At least, that's how I'd feel about it.
>every muscular hollywood actor is on steroids.
The art is get on gear and NOT have people notice it. If you overdo it, then you do not reap the reward for it.

>>83429657
I think you are projecting your own desires onto the lower IQ (better looking) women that he is able to easily have sex with.

>>83429625
Never researched the jaw surgery. I'm not against these sergies, in general. But the leg lengthening, in particular, does not work. It'll fuck up your proportions. Not to mention that the complications, that you'll sit in a wheelchair for a year or longer, that you'll not be able to do sports at all.

>nope
doubt

>>83429691
>doubt
You're right he does apparently sell a course but I've never seen him promote it whereas I've seen him give tons of advice for free including live via video call as part of his stream.

>>83429677
Then, why not go to a prostitute? At the end of the day, it'll be the same. You paid money to get women. It's cheaper, too. And these women are going to have the same body-count, as well.

>>83429720
>Why not fuck prostitutes instead of just becoming Chad?
Is that a serious question? I'm not trying to talk you into getting a bunch of surgeries, but Clavicular is clearly an obsessed autist so I wouldn't bother trying to talk him out of it either.

>>83429716
Well, it's not charity.

>>83429743
He's primarily a streamer, and not a very good one. It's content and he gives honest advice.

>>83429742
Yes. To me, there is no difference. At the end of the day, you paid money for a woman to love you. She did not love YOU. I do not know about you. But I only love a person, if that person loves me.

Imagine, if you'd change your height to 6'3 and you got a surgery for your face. Next, you get with a woman. In a moment of weakness, you show her a photo of your old self and you see the disgust in her face. After that, I'd be done with her.

>>83429751
Advice that is honest and financially lucrative. If he had to choose one over the other, what do you think he would take?

>>83429794
>In a moment of weakness, you show her a photo of your old self and you see the disgust in her face.
They really don't care. Men don't either. Women are the biggest frauds of all.

>>83429802
I believe he is genuinely autistic and obsessed with looksmaxxing. You are treating him like an average kike scammer.

>>83429806
I do care, anon. If you believe it or not.
>Women are the biggest frauds of all.
That is true.

>>83429818
Just answer the question, anon. What do you think he would take? The responsibility for his fans or the money? What will it be?

>>83429838
I don't even understand why you think this is a gotcha question. He shits on people (honestly) all the time for free. That's probably the main reason he's famous.

>>83429852
Well, because it is the make or break, right. This is what distinguishes a man of integrity from yet another scammer, does it not.

But I am a believer! The man who is faking his looks to get sex from women, would NEVER EVER NEVER fake his words to get the money from his fans. NEVER.

>>83429467
>the reason he roids is because he hates working out and steroids allow you to put in minimal effort to build and maintain muscle.
Then they wonder why they can't maintain erections well anymore before 30. And why they die of heart attacks before 40. And why cancer sometimes kills them before that.
One of the stupidest and riskiest things you can do to yourself is to mess with your body's natural hormone balance and regularly ingest a long list of substances you don't know shit about, because you're not a biochemist or doctor specialized in nutrition. Even those probably wouldn't know exactly what the effect of 30+ supplements is on their bodies.
Only narcissistic brainlets do this stuff.

>>83429876
Again, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about considering he is famous precisely because he autistically and honestly points out everyone's physical flaws, and the reason they take him seriously in the first place is because he has obviously improved his own appearance.

>>83429887
he has admitted that he will probably not live as long due to his lifestyle, and also says 70% of looksmaxxing improvement comes from normie shit like getting lean and grooming

>>83429571
That's true, but what you are saying is also misleading. There has never been a woman in the world that has experienced sexual attraction for a man with over 15% body fat, at most. You don't have to look like Mr Olympia, but you MUST have visible abs.

>>83429887
They do it because it is what women demand on the sexual marketplace. And if some men do it, other men have to do it otherwise they will be left behind.

>>83429467
Don't take any of this retarded shit seriously. PeaceMaxx instead

>>83429467
we legit live in a more boring version of cyberpunk where if you don't take steroids, inject hormones, take finnasteride, get leg lengthening surgery and other plastic surgeries it's practically over for you as an average man.

>>83429918
>They do it because it is what women demand on the sexual marketplace.
Which makes them even more pathetic. They are cutting many years off their lifespan and worsening their future health just to appeal to foids. Basically self-destructing just to have access to top tier pussy, when they could simply jack off. And then they'll have to take some more Viagra/Cialis to make their dick work when they have sex, like some 70something oldfag.
Some foids are probably already aware that these roided-out Chads are worse in bed than a skinny lanklet simply because the lanklet can hold an erection and probably has a longer dick anyway.

>>83429467
This guy is not a chad he misses the single most important Chad quality which is confidence.

Taking copious drugs and fucking yourself up surgically to achieve some fake cartoonish version of being an attractive man is pathetic. Despite his technical specifications he will be pussy repellent for top tier women compared to a man who is confident, attractive and has good social standing

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>>83429893
I believe he's a scammer. That's what I put my money on. He is not famous, because he is honest. He is famous, because he knows how to go viral. At the moment, his vehicle is "looksmaxxing". But, tomorrow, it'll something else. You'll see.

>he has obviously improved his own appearance.
The guy in the picture is him at, I think, 19 years old. He's looking fine. I do not see an improvement that would be significant.

>>83429549
Being a human experiment hes like Brian Johnson but instead of trying to live for 200 years hes trying to be as physically attractive as he can even if it kills him

Which is a hilariously more gay and pathetic thing to do

>>83429625
He does have a looxmax academy

>chad
>drug addicted roider
dude would be fine without all this shit unless he had tons of surgery or something. Don't who the hell he is, but if you think of this shit will improve your life, there's nothing will help you.

>>83429944
They get to determine what is important to them. Not you. If I could go back to being 18 with what I know now, I'd do the same because having money and a stable life is pretty worthless if you are also treated like a eunich by women, at least in my opinion.

>Some foids are probably already aware that these roided-out Chads are worse in bed than a skinny lanklet simply because the lanklet can hold an erection and probably has a longer dick anyway.
No, that's not how it works. A woman's sexual pleasure is largely determined by the man's physical appearance. What you do has nothing to do with whether they orgasm.

>>83429947
Confidence comes from success. Confidence does not cause success. Confidence without success is just being an idiot.

>>83429918
>That's true, but what you are saying is also misleading. There has never been a woman in the world that has experienced sexual attraction for a man with over 15% body fat, at most. You don't have to look like Mr Olympia, but you MUST have visible abs.
I agree. I think, the twink physique is the ideal. At least, when you want to get younger women. I'm not sure about older women.

>>83429653
>>83429637
Doing what he is doing isnt attractive though hes freakish and going to become more freakish if he goes through his surgeries

Turning yourself into a plastic freak because you think thats what will get you lots of Instagram attention is absolutely insane

These looxmaxing dudes walk around acting like only male models (who are mostly fags btw) are out there fucking all the women. They arent there arent many of them and I promise they are not your competition

The entire looxmax thing is men getting one shotted by social media and acting like women

>>83429985
Women prefer, sexually, young men for the entirety of their lives. They may use older men for resources, but that's it. The things women require for sexual attraction such as low body fat and ZERO hair loss (required) are far easier for young men.

>>83429794
You have clearly never even spoken to a girl because they dont act like this

>>83429944
He wont even get top tier pussy

Anyone who thinks the top girls will go for this dude when there are rich athletes, actors, politicians and just generally super successful and naturally good looking men are out of their minds

A naturally good looking actually successful guy like the secretary it war will always be infinitely more attractive to me to a woman than this kid and his drug and surgery induced body modifications

>>83430000
>These looxmaxing dudes walk around acting like only male models (who are mostly fags btw) are out there fucking all the women. They arent there arent many of them and I promise they are not your competition
They absolutely ARE your competition, even if there aren't many of them. A few young men can fuck their way through the entire female population of a large city very quickly. Look how gay men behave. That is how these guys also behave since they, like gay men, have unlimited sexual opportunities. Most women have access to these guys, at least sexually, thanks to social media. If you want enthusiastic sex from a woman then yes you have to look like a male model. If you don't look like that, then you will have to pay because no woman will ever find you sexually attractive.

>>83430005
Not sure, if that is true. People having been saying men prefer younger women. But I do not. I prefer a woman around my age, as long as she is not a whore. You have more in common.

>>83430008
What do you disagree with? I'm not sure what you mean.

>>83430024
Transsexuals do not count as women, anon

>>83429955
I don't think he's a scammer based solely on the fact that I am sure he is genuinely autistic. Either way I guess we'll see if he goes through with a gigachad jaw surgery or not. If you're willing to do that to scam then lol.

>>83429981
>What you do has nothing to do with whether they orgasm.
You're wrong about this. Sex is very psychological for both genders. Physical attraction's very important. But it's not everything.

>>83429981
You are wrong about confidence because you are a dumbass like cav Confident comes from a steadfast sense of self and belief in yourself confidence does not come because an outside force granted you some magical success in fact when that does happen people get imposter syndrome so you are just a retard


Fake it till you make it actually works because your confidence and happiness and personal self esteem literally comes from your own mind and your own self reflection.

Fake confidence comes off as bravado and duechienss but guess what as you see the results of said confidence you will actually begin to reinforce it within yourself.

Basically you just need to stop being a bitch and go out and strive and fall on your face and sometimes you wont and when you dont you will build the real deal

I was literally an incel til 23. People were shocked when they found out but between 23 and 28 I fucked dozens of girls from pigs to literal models, I didnt suddenly become rich or get surgery or take roids i just finally began to believe in my own good traits, my humor, my intelligence my ability to talk.

And guess what ? Pussy poured in. Also dont be a fat slob, get a haircut get better clothes it is not rocket science.

And before you call me a boomer this was only 10 years ago I was on the apps, I am not some boomer I am now married with a kid

>>83429467
this guy's health is going to crash and burn before 30 because there is NO FUCKING WAY that's sustainable in the long run.

>>83430005
Yes wen the world over are out there fucking 19 year old bros instead of middle aged handsome rich men

You dont understand womens preference at all. Recourses are what is attractive to women, teenage girls like young good looking rich boys because they will most likely be successful

Your muscles and your looks are all an evolutionary signal for your ability to generate resources for the woman.

You find that disingenuous because that is not how men are. But men are not women, women wanting a provider isnt some scam or lie its how they are built

>women get uglier, fatter, lazier, and more entitled each year
>men become more and more schizophrenic and obsessed with discipline, work, and other hamster wheel self-harm for a crumb of pussy
How did we end up here?

>>83429981
>Confidence comes from success.
True. But success in your childhood.

>>83430039
That a woman will be disgusted seeing you when you werent attractive when you are now

>>83430076
For women especially it is mostly psychological. How good a man is largely about how she personally sees the man at the time

Thats how mcjagger can still shove a soft dick in a girls asscrack for 3 minutes and the women will still claim hes an incredible lover but when she is done with her bf she will be literally disgusted by him

>>83430126
I meant she is going to be disgusted by the you in the picture.

>>83429467
>>83429947
>>83430024
I would agree with you that this guy is insecure and that is repulsive to women but the evidence and facts are that he gets pretty pussy regularly and has many female fans

>>83430076
>You're wrong about this. Sex is very psychological for both genders. Physical attraction's very important. But it's not everything.
A woman's opinion of you and your character is just her evaluation of your physical attractiveness. That's it. So ultimately it's all how you look.

>>83430083
>Fake confidence comes off as bravado and duechienss but guess what as you see the results of said confidence you will actually begin to reinforce it within yourself.
It works if you succeed, but it doesn't grant success. And ultimately if you succeed, you would succeed whether you were confident or not, therefore, the confidence has no effect on whether you succeed.

>>83430099
Of course women fuck middle-aged men. But do you think the prostitute finds her customer sexually attractive? Of course not. Women have sex for lots of reasons, most of which have nothing to do with actual sexual desire. But if you want sexual desire from women, there are a lot of very specific requirements that you must meet.

>>83429467
Then they start aging fast in their forties drop dead of a heart attack in their fifties.

That's a high price to pay for being a Chad.

>>83430217
>A woman's opinion of you and your character is just her evaluation of your physical attractiveness. That's it. So ultimately it's all how you look.
Looks is only a necessary condition. Women enjoy it, when you guess their kinks. I remember that I made one of my gfs enjoyed it, when I verbally humiliated her. She got very wet from that and I brought her to orgasm faster. You're underestimating the psychological side of it. For me, that's what is making sex so much fun. Otherwise it would only be masturbation.

>>83430263
>I remember that I made one of my gfs enjoyed it
*I remember that one of my gfs enjoyed it

>>83429918
>There has never been a woman in the world that has experienced sexual attraction for a man with over 15% body fat, at most. You don't have to look like Mr Olympia, but you MUST have visible abs.
>tfw sub-6% body fat and I still don't have visible abs
fuck my stupid incel chud body

>>83429467
It's crazy that if you fail to meet even one of these requirements you are doomed to die alone with no exceptions. This is a hell realm.

>>83430187
He really does not it is 99% men

>>83430217
You are wrong about women they are far less concerned with physical appearance than men are. Their sexuality is much more malleable because what women desire in men is what a man REPRESENTS

Does he represent money, power, respect ?


Being good looking is just one facet but it can be replaced or offset by many others

When it comes to men they are generally only interested in appearance first and foremost.

You can go out right now and find women way hotter than their men because those men bring other things women find attractive to the table.

Being rich IS SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE to women


You cannot seem to put yourself into a womans mindset you are analyzing female actions as a man would

>>83429918
>>83430318
This is just literally not true

>>83429467
>Testosterone injections
>500 mg melatonin
>Pregabalin+Baclofen+Xanax+Ketamine
yeah this is just satire

>>83430385
>You are wrong about women they are far less concerned with physical appearance than men are. Their sexuality is much more malleable because what women desire in men is what a man REPRESENTS
Sorry, but women are actually MORE concerned about a man's physical appearance than the other way around. That's why morbidly obese chicks can have sex with male models (without paying) but the reverse does not apply.

>Being good looking is just one facet but it can be replaced or offset by many others
Sure, so long as you accept that it will essentially be prostitution and she will have zero desire for you.

>Being rich IS SEXUALLY ATTRACTIVE to women
Wrong. Women are willing to sell sexual access for money, but money doesn't actually get them wet.

If you don't care about the woman desiring you, go ahead and be a provider. That's great if you want to slave away for a woman who secretly finds you disgusting, but just know she's treating the guy she thinks is hot and is fucking on the side far better than she treats you.

>>83430930
No friend you are wrong because you refuse to believe that women and men are fundamentally different sexually

Your issue with women is they dont act and think like men

>>83429467
You can replace all of this with just one intake of cocaine.

>>83430960
>No friend you are wrong because you refuse to believe that women and men are fundamentally different sexually
I already said that men and women are different. Men find most women sexually attractive by default. Women find almost all men sexually unattractive by default. Women also place a far greater emphasis on physical appearance than men. Those are differences. Do you think hookers are attracted to the men they fuck for money?

>>83430993
Hookers are not the same as relationships

>>83431006
Why not? You said women are sexually attracted to money. So why wouldn't hookers be sexually attracted to their customers.

>>83431038
They are sexually attracted to what a man can provide her

>>83431070
>They are sexually attracted to what a man can provide her
Right, and a customer provides a hooker with money. So by your logic she must be sexually attracted to him. That is the only conclusion if one accepts your premise that women find men who give them stuff sexually attractive.

>>83431081
See you are emotionally upset that women dont desire men simply by existing

That is not how women are built dude. Women need to be extremely selective in their mate choice, men do not, this is hardwired in over millions of years

It doesnt make them bad it just makes them women. You are still angry that women are not men

>>83431170
>See you are emotionally upset that women dont desire men simply by existing
They do, though, just they only desire a few very hot men.

>That is not how women are built dude. Women need to be extremely selective in their mate choice, men do not, this is hardwired in over millions of years
We're agreeing. As I said, women are extremely picky with men they find sexually attractive. But they DO find some men sexually attractive at first sight, so, they are capable of it.

But why haven't you answered my question?

>>83431188
But it is not just for looks. Thats what you refuse to Accept

Physical appearance is all YOU care about so you project that women also only care about looks and that everything else is manipulation

You do not believe women are serious when they say they love a man for the life he provides her or the position he holds, you dont value it in women so you assume women dont actually do either and are just lying

And Im here to tell you they arent lying their sexuality is literally so alien to you that you cannot accept it

>>83431264
Please answer my question: Since customers provide for hookers, do you believe that hookers are sexually attracted to their customers?

>You do not believe women are serious when they say they love a man for the life he provides her or the position he holds, you dont value it in women so you assume women dont actually do either and are just lying
Of course I don't believe it. No one treats people they love like women treat men who are below 6 feet tall. They don't love the man. They love WHAT he provides. The man is just a cost they have to pay or endure to get what they actually want. If they could get what they wanted without the man, they would. That's why fewer women are marrying now: they don't need money from most men as much.

Their sexuality isn't alien. We can confirm what they do and do not find sexually attractive via online dating stats.

>>83429467
Would rather be forever alone than becoming a drug addict.

>>83431293
See thats exactly it. You have an emotional response to this because you refuse to accept that females are like the negative version of males.

You can dislike it all you want if you really hate the way women are so much than date men instead, but what they are doing is not a lie

>>83431383
I see that you won't answer my question, so I will accept that as you admitting you are incorrect. Thanks bro.

>>83429467
imagine needing supplements lmao
genetic dead end

Biohacking is cope. It's trying to cope for the fact that we don't have true science.

>bacolofen
>xan
>ketamine
wtf? do you know how hard it is to function on baclofen? lmao. let alone mixing it with other shit.

>>83429467
that's a roid tranny. He shouldn't roid

>>83429467
>Pregabalin
How do I get this?

I find it funny how virgin males on the internet dictate what is and is not attractive to women.